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ROR 163: Mother's Day in Prison · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Speaker 1: Hello, this is a prebate call from and if the
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  Speaker 1: present Department of Correction read an in state prison to
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  Speaker 1: accept this call, crass zero.
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  Speaker 2: This is Randall bob Aka read on you, Randy. I'm
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  Speaker 2: currently serving one thousand, two hundred and fourteen years for
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  Speaker 2: capital murder and arm robbery now and finally at a
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  Speaker 2: level three fucking Air Correctional Center sowa's throw from where
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  Speaker 2: I grew up. If you have any questions or comments
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  Speaker 2: a voicemail line. That number is one eight eight eight
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  Speaker 2: five Zuit four one nine three suit. You can also
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  Speaker 2: visit my website which is new and improved and got
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  Speaker 2: different features and whatnot at deput Debut do red on
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  Speaker 2: your Randy dot com. I hope you do. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: started with the podcast today. I'm going to do an
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  Speaker 2: episode from a question from a lady who calls herself
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  Speaker 2: Black Sheep Mom. She's one of my patreons, one of
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  Speaker 2: my paid patreons actually, you know which I appreciate man,
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  Speaker 2: thank you very much. But she sent a question in
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  Speaker 2: which is appropriate because it's basically a week and a
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  Speaker 2: half give her take till Mother's Day and She asked me,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of experience have I seen throughout the prison system?
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  Speaker 2: Bad moms, good moms, and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because I have talked about my mom on
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  Speaker 2: you know, multiple podcasts previously, So I'm really not going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about my mom's today. I'm going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about other people's moms, you know, some good and bad.
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  Speaker 2: For some I will, you know, I'll mention names for
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  Speaker 2: like the good moms. For some of the bad moms,
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  Speaker 2: I won't, you know, simply just out of respect, and
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  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. Now, the thing about Black
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  Speaker 2: Sheep Mom is, as you probably already picked up from
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  Speaker 2: the name, she is the mother of a black sheep.
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  Speaker 2: Her son is currently incarcerated. I don't know what country,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what state. I'm assuming more than likely
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  Speaker 2: it's here in America. I don't know what state, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what, you know, the charges were, any details.
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  Speaker 2: I just know that the lady listens to my podcast,
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  Speaker 2: she supports me, and uh, that's good enough for me.
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  Speaker 2: I would have to say one of the worst moms
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  Speaker 2: that I've heard about, Yeah, that's uh, all right. I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to I'm trying to be sensitive here. I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to you know, show respect. Yeah, but my god, what
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  Speaker 2: a bitch. I mean she was horrible. You know. When
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  Speaker 2: her son would call or send a email or you know,
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  Speaker 2: something of that nature, she would ask him for money
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  Speaker 2: like you know, I mean she was she was a
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  Speaker 2: drug user. You know, she got high, she's drinking and
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  Speaker 2: partying and all that stuff. And I mean she would
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  Speaker 2: make him feel so guilty, you know that he would
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  Speaker 2: he would see, he would send her money order, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she would go get high and then she would just
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  Speaker 2: she would just you know, continue the cycle over and
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  Speaker 2: over again. And this you know, this guy had to
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  Speaker 2: do things that you know, the Department of Corrections. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: usually if they find out if they lock your ass
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  Speaker 2: up in Supermax, told way to key and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: strip you of all visitation and all rights and take
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  Speaker 2: you to straight court and charge you and give you
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  Speaker 2: more time and so on and so forth. You know,
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  Speaker 2: but that then they like, oh boy had no choice,
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  Speaker 2: like he had to. He had to continue in that lifestyle.
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  Speaker 2: And when you get when you're in that lifestyle, like
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  Speaker 2: That's why I've never ever dipped toe in that lifestyle,
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  Speaker 2: because so many problems arise from it. You know. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I've been in prison thirty four years. I know people
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  Speaker 2: like I know people in the game community. I have
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  Speaker 2: respect from a lot of people, you know, in the
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  Speaker 2: drug community. You know, I don't know much about it.
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  Speaker 2: I know a little bit. You know. It's kind of
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  Speaker 2: hard to be in prison as long as I have
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  Speaker 2: and not pick up on something. You know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: exactly walk around with my head stuck in my own ass.
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  Speaker 2: So I learned a few things. And yeah, the money's great,
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  Speaker 2: The money's great. You know, it's it would be nice,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you've got you've got some people. Now,
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  Speaker 2: not everybody is making you know, twenty thirty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: a week, but there are some catch in prison who's
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  Speaker 2: making that kind of money. You know. Usually, you know,
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  Speaker 2: guys might make a couple of hundred giver or take
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. The guy I'm talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he was, he was middle echelon. He was probably you know,
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  Speaker 2: making you know, six or seven grand a week. You know,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously you know a lot of that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: go to his kids, you know, his baby mom. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Commissary trying to save a little bit, you know, get
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  Speaker 2: a lawyer, you know, things like that. You know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it sucks that old boy had to go
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  Speaker 2: down that road, that he has to stay on that road.
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  Speaker 2: But like, you know, his mom does like he loves her,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he has respect for her, but he you know,
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  Speaker 2: he hates her at the same time he hates what
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  Speaker 2: she's doing. So like that's like one of the worst
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  Speaker 2: worst examples. You know, I knew I knew one mom.
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  Speaker 2: Well I didn't know her personally, but just you know,
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  Speaker 2: talking to this individual. Uh, you know when he was young,
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  Speaker 2: his mom look and I'm talking you know, one two
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  Speaker 2: years old young, she was a crackhead. I mean she
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  Speaker 2: was a certified crackhead. And she used to sell her
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  Speaker 2: son to sex offenders. You know, she's like, I'm talking, like,
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  Speaker 2: go on the sex offender registreet, find their address and
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  Speaker 2: home and go knock on the door and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is my kid. You want to spend an hour
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  Speaker 2: with them? Two hundred and fifty bucks? You know, like
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  Speaker 2: these are some of the examples of just horrible, horrible moms.
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  Speaker 2: You know, then you have you have moms that are indifferent,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you have moms that and honestly that I
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  Speaker 2: think maybe in some ways that's even worse, you know,
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  Speaker 2: is the mom that you call she feels like answer,
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  Speaker 2: and she'll answer, and then they'll just be like, man, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I ain't doing nothing. I can only talk
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  Speaker 2: for a few minutes. Wait a minute, you just said
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  Speaker 2: you're not doing anything. What do you mean you can
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  Speaker 2: only talk for a few minutes? Man, Well, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like they just don't care.
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  Speaker 1: That.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that on that one hurts you know that one,
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  Speaker 2: That one definitely has to hurt how that that that
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  Speaker 2: hurts me just hearing about it. And I think there's
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of moms like that, you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: there's I understand we're in here, you're out there. I
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  Speaker 2: understand that you know, you you might not be able
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  Speaker 2: to send your kids money. That's fine, it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, I understand that you do have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of prisoners that when they call, every time they talk
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  Speaker 2: to you, they're asking you to send them money. You know.
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  Speaker 2: My younger brother Jason was like that. You know, every
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  Speaker 2: time he called my brother or anybody, he all always
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  Speaker 2: asking money. Hey, send me money, send me money, send
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  Speaker 2: me money, Hey, man, get this on me to do
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  Speaker 2: that for me, you know, so I do get it.
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  Speaker 2: I understand, you know, from you know, a mother's perspective
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  Speaker 2: that you know, hell, it'd be nice to get a
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  Speaker 2: phone call and they don't ask you for anything. They
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  Speaker 2: just simply want to talk to you. See how you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Let you know, let you know that you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: in here thinking about you and we love you and
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  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. And that's what that is.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I do try to teach guys in here,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when I'm placed in a position to where
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  Speaker 2: I can kind of give them some advice, give them
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  Speaker 2: a little wisdom. You know, nobody nobody wants to be used.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody like and I'll sit there and tell them, Like, bro,
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  Speaker 2: what happens is literally every time I see you, like,
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  Speaker 2: hey man, can I get a suit? Amen? Can I
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  Speaker 2: get a shot of coffee? Like, I never ever speak
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  Speaker 2: to you unless I'm asking you for something. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't just come knock on the door and
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  Speaker 2: like hey yo, bro, doing anything? Nah? All right, let
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  Speaker 2: me come in. You know. We go in and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I sit down on a chair or what not and
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  Speaker 2: we just talk, watch a little TV, listen to use
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  Speaker 2: and play a game whatever the case may be. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, check in and see how you doing,
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, after a while, get up and
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  Speaker 2: rollo by my business like it's you know, and believe me,
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  Speaker 2: I've been on this end of it. But I can
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  Speaker 2: tell you right now, I don't stay on the end
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  Speaker 2: of it very wrong. You're not gonna use me. I
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  Speaker 2: don't use other people. You're not gonna use me, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I I think I see a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: happen too, you know, so I understand sometimes when moms
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  Speaker 2: they just even if they're literally doing nothing, they don't
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  Speaker 2: answer the phone. They'll just ignore it. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: when they do, when the guilt does like okay, I
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  Speaker 2: really need to talk to my son, and you accept it,
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  Speaker 2: call and you know, you they they lie and be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I was busy or my phone was off for the
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  Speaker 2: battery was dead or whatever the case. I was in
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  Speaker 2: a doctor's appointment, you know, like really, mom, doctor's appointment,
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  Speaker 2: Like I called you at nine thirty at night. Well
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  Speaker 2: you know I had to go and I could go,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, that was pretty good. But but you know,
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  Speaker 2: those those are the things man, that yeah, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: hell on relationships in here. I'm telling you, getting locked up,
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  Speaker 2: it's a nightmare on relationships. But I've seen some great moms,
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  Speaker 2: you know. The I think the two that stand out
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  Speaker 2: the most to me is uh my buddy Frank's mom.
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  Speaker 2: She was. She was, you know, a much older lady,
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  Speaker 2: old country girl on the mountains. You know it, he'll
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  Speaker 2: billy chick basically, you know, she was salt of the earth.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, may if Frank, because sometimes Frank he
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  Speaker 2: kind of gets into his little moods where he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to talk to nobody, and you know, he'll he
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  Speaker 2: might go a week or two without call her, and
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  Speaker 2: then he'll call her and she will cuss his ass out. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. You're gonna call your mama. I love you,
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  Speaker 2: and you will talk to me until the day I'm bad,
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  Speaker 2: and you're gonna let me know how you're doing it,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, and she even you know her her
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  Speaker 2: she was retired, she couldn't work, she had you know,
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  Speaker 2: she was on disability and you know all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: She still send him money and he'd sit and Frank
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  Speaker 2: and this is the thing, if Frank never asked her
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  Speaker 2: for anything, you know, and she would just she would
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  Speaker 2: send it and he would be like, Mom, he don't
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  Speaker 2: have to send me nothing, and she's like, boy, shut
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  Speaker 2: the book. I'll do because I love you. And that's
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  Speaker 2: where he's gonna be, you know. And you send it back,
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  Speaker 2: I'll come usit and slap you upside the damn head.
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  Speaker 2: They can lock me up, you know. She was that
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  Speaker 2: kind of mom. And uh. The other one is uh,
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  Speaker 2: my buddy Michael Patterson, his mom, Miss Patterson. She's uh,
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  Speaker 2: she's really cool. Like I. I I never really actually
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  Speaker 2: got to talk to her on the phone. I kind
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  Speaker 2: of wanted to, but you know, I'm not gonna ask.
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  Speaker 2: I was just kind of hoping that Michael would pick
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  Speaker 2: up on that or she would and like, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because I used to call her second mom. She was
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  Speaker 2: she was cool. She'd uh. She would always buy fantasy
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  Speaker 2: books for michaeh. But the thing is when he would
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  Speaker 2: ask for specific fantasy books, she would always not only
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  Speaker 2: buy him a copy of the books, she by herself
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  Speaker 2: copies of the books and she would read them along
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  Speaker 2: with their son. And you know that way because look,
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  Speaker 2: and this is the thing that some people don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a lot going on in prison. And
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the reason why I have so
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  Speaker 2: much respect for this lady. Sometimes we don't know what
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  Speaker 2: to talk about, Like when I call, it's like sometimes man,
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  Speaker 2: having a conversation with a few people can be very
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  Speaker 2: challenging and difficult for me because I basically do the
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  Speaker 2: same thing day in and day out. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: go listen to my episode at the Groundhof day. I
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  Speaker 2: believe it's titled you know, it's literally that's what I
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  Speaker 2: do day in, day out, day in day out. So
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  Speaker 2: when y'all ask me, oh, what you do today, well,
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  Speaker 2: you've pretty much asked me that question every time I
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  Speaker 2: call you, and for the most part, it never changes.
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  Speaker 2: So I always thought that was just so awesome of
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  Speaker 2: miss Patterson. So order the exact same books that she
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  Speaker 2: ordered for her son, that she would watch TV shows
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  Speaker 2: that he would watch. She would go and watch a
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  Speaker 2: movie that he would watch, like if they played a
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  Speaker 2: decent one on the DVD channel on the weekends or
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  Speaker 2: something like that, just so they would have something to
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  Speaker 2: talk about, just so they could, you know, have fresh communication.
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  Speaker 2: It goes without saying that, you know, his mom, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just supports him and not just supports him, but supports
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  Speaker 2: him pretty damn good. You know, that boy has pretty
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  Speaker 2: much everything you could possibly have in prison, and quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit of it, especially commissary, you know, because she
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  Speaker 2: goes out of her way and the same thing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: his father does the same thing. You know, his sister
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  Speaker 2: helps and so on and so forth. You know. And
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  Speaker 2: I I will say this about Micah Go to Prison audio,
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  Speaker 2: Uh my editor, uh, Michael Sweetey, he interviewed Mike's there's
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  Speaker 2: two episodes of you can find it listening to her.
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  Speaker 2: Because I've only met three people in prison that I
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  Speaker 2: genuinely thought and felt were absolutely one innocent, and Michael
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  Speaker 2: Patterson is one of them. You know. So all the
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  Speaker 2: more so that his mom is a good mom. You know,
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  Speaker 2: she she's stuck with him, she believes him, she's fighting
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  Speaker 2: for him. You know, she's saving up money to uh
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  Speaker 2: the hire John Sheldon, whom I recommended to him, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the absolute best post conviction lawyer in the state of Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's going to cost and John Shelder's worth
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  Speaker 2: every fricking penny of it. But she's out there busting
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  Speaker 2: her ass, working her fingers to the bone and sacrificing,
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  Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of things that she would probably
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  Speaker 2: like to get for herself, but she's not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: She's just taking that money and just every paycheck, just
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  Speaker 2: putting money towards his legal fund, towards his you know,
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  Speaker 2: getting a lawyer like I genuinely think miss Patterson is
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  Speaker 2: probably the best example of make you have one minute meaning.
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  Speaker 2: Miss Patterson is probably the best example of motherhood that
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  Speaker 2: I've seen in person. Home. I've seen the good, I've
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  Speaker 2: seen the indifferent. I've seen the just downright ugly. But
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  Speaker 2: just like every other walk of life, you have the good,
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  Speaker 2: the bad, and ugly, you know, moms. I wish you
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  Speaker 2: had happy Mother's Day. Hope you enjoyed that episode. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you Black Sheep Mom for giving me that question. It
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  Speaker 2: actually gave me a lot to think about and fonder on,
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  Speaker 2: you know, motherhood and so on and so forth. So
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  Speaker 2: keep supporting me, and I appreciate you out there, and
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  Speaker 2: go check out her blog people. I believe it's called
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  Speaker 2: black Sheep Mom. So have a good one, all right.
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  Speaker 2: That's uh, that's all the time we have for now.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you listening to me more than you'll uh,
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