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Lauryn & Michael Bosstick from The Skinny Confidential · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, It is La La Ken. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the Give Them La La Podcast with Jessica Walter.
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  Speaker 2: Hi everyone, it's me surprise.
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  Speaker 1: Is it jes So you told me that someone DMS
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  Speaker 1: you over the weekend. What did they say?
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  Speaker 2: Listen to you, guys, I get a lot of in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, funny, but in most people's opinions, they're mean dms,
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  Speaker 2: and I just kind of look at them and give
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  Speaker 2: a little and then move on with my day. But
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  Speaker 2: this one girl said, Lala was just playing. She was
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  Speaker 2: recording herself and I was talking in the background, and
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  Speaker 2: she was playing the video back to her, and I
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  Speaker 2: heard my voice but didn't know it was me, And
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  Speaker 2: my first thought was, who is that fucking annoying girl?
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  Speaker 2: Then I realized it was me, which made me laugh.
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  Speaker 2: Because over the weekend, a girl with a dog as
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  Speaker 2: her profile pick coorse DM to me and she said,
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  Speaker 2: if I have to hear your voice one more time,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna rip my ears off, so.
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  Speaker 1: Well troll with the dog as her profile picture. If
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  Speaker 1: you continue listening to the podcast, you're gonna hear Jess's voice,
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  Speaker 1: so you might as well start ripping your ears off now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry though, because I feel your pain. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even know that was me, and I was like, God,
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  Speaker 2: turn that.
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  Speaker 1: Off, Fla las No. I love your voice, and can
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  Speaker 1: I tell you when I listen to the podcast, I
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  Speaker 1: say you know all the time, and I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, you're so annoying. I have to stop saying
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  Speaker 1: after everything I say.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's so funny because I don't even realize that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's so annoying. I've got to stop.
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  Speaker 2: Really, yes, I don't even realize it. Wait, so happy
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  Speaker 2: freaking because over the weekend you were at the pumpkin
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  Speaker 2: Patch celebrating four yearboy buddy, Yeah, sobriety, very exciting. Tell
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  Speaker 2: me about your weekend.
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  Speaker 1: My weekend was a lit af we went to. So
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  Speaker 1: I knew it's it's one day at a time, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't on anyone who's in the program to be
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  Speaker 1: triggered by what I'm gonna say. I knew that I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna make it to four years because I just
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  Speaker 1: knew I like being sober. I enjoy my life. So
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this weekend is going to be my
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  Speaker 1: sobriety birthday weekend. It was officially four years on the
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  Speaker 1: twenty second, which was Saturday. So Friday, we went to
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  Speaker 1: the pumpkin patch with Ocean Cruise Jack's Bread Jared and
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  Speaker 1: it was amazing and Ocean kept pointing she went in
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  Speaker 1: her Monster Zinc costume.
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  Speaker 2: He saw that.
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  Speaker 1: She loves it. She brings it to me every day
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  Speaker 1: and is like, I was dying wanting me to put
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  Speaker 1: it on her. So I was like, you can wear
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  Speaker 1: it to the pumpkin patch. But she's pointing at this
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  Speaker 1: giant slide. Can I just tell y'all, my kid has
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  Speaker 1: the cutest, most fun personality in the entire world.
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  Speaker 2: The best she is.
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  Speaker 3: I get a kick out of her hilarious. She's so
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  Speaker 3: funniest person I know. She's the funniest person I know.
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  Speaker 3: She's so freaking cool. So she did like the little
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  Speaker 3: bouncy house whatever did the slide.
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  Speaker 1: And then on Saturday, for my actual like happy Birthday,
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  Speaker 1: happy four years of sobriety, we went to Universal with
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  Speaker 1: Summer Moon Cruise parents. There was another cute little girl, Sienna,
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  Speaker 1: who's her parents are friends with She and I met
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  Speaker 1: them at Sheena's wedding. It is so cute. If I could,
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  Speaker 1: I know that it's like a hard thing to do
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  Speaker 1: where you know some people have a hard time getting
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  Speaker 1: pregnant and my heart goes out to them. If in
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  Speaker 1: a perfect world you could say, like, let's plan to
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  Speaker 1: have babies together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with your friends, do it.
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  Speaker 1: It is. I'm telling you, there's no better feeling.
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  Speaker 2: I died over the photo, which I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it's posted somewhere of not only Ocean and Cruise with
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  Speaker 2: Ocean's arm around him, but Ocean and Summer.
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  Speaker 1: Moon holding hands and the are you.
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  Speaker 2: Kidding an ocean smile in one of them happiest girl
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  Speaker 2: in the like I was dying. Are those on Sheena's page?
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  Speaker 1: They're on Sheena's page and Summer's page, and they they
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  Speaker 1: always tag give them Ocean, they do. I haven't posted
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  Speaker 1: anything on Ocean's page like ever, Yeah, since she was
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  Speaker 1: like born.
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  Speaker 2: It's more on your page.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I can barely post content on my
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  Speaker 1: own page, let alone get content for Ocean's pages.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, if you want to see like
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  Speaker 2: most of Ocean's content, if it's not on your page,
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  Speaker 2: it's on give them while a baby.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where a bunch of it is. Yeah. They're
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  Speaker 1: just so cute and fun and you want to bottle
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  Speaker 1: it up. And Sienna grabbed onto her mom, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with the neck and put her head down on her shoulder.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, is that not the best feeling in
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  Speaker 1: the world? And she was like, okay, is this this
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  Speaker 1: is the best feeling in the world. Right, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is that's that's what heaven feels like. No, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not kidding. It's so say, there are certain things that
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  Speaker 1: happen when your baby first comes out of the cookie
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  Speaker 1: or just enters the world, no matter how they you know, surrogacy,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's your cookie or someone else's, or you adopt,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. When you know your child, you are in heaven.
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  Speaker 1: When that child you know it's yours and it's come
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  Speaker 1: into the world. That my love is what heaven feels like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God. When they lay their head down and
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  Speaker 1: I assume the first time they say I love you
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  Speaker 1: is also like, this is what heaven feels like.
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  Speaker 2: Has Ocean said it?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: She so, can I tell you what she did? She
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  Speaker 1: can't say. You just know the tone, right, right, you
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  Speaker 1: just learn the tone. So I said, can you say
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  Speaker 1: I love you? She goes any Oh, I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my God.
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  Speaker 2: She she's so cute because we're like your mom and
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  Speaker 2: you and your mom taught her to say. She won't
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  Speaker 2: say please yet, but she'll go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she's so. But today I did catch her
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  Speaker 1: so she can. She's getting taller, so she can open
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  Speaker 1: and close the doors. And she opens the door to
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  Speaker 1: my bedroom closes it, and you know, I keep all
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  Speaker 1: the doors closed. There's not It was probably five seconds
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  Speaker 1: that she they get into something. I see her close
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  Speaker 1: the door, I walk in. I can't find her. She
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  Speaker 1: is behind my curtain with Bella's dog food, chowing the
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  Speaker 1: fuck down.
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  Speaker 2: She loves a good dog food.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but how do I make it stop? Because I
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  Speaker 1: give this girl her vitamins. She eats well, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: the dog food. Because our dogs are older, we have
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  Speaker 1: to give them like all organic. Like people can definitely
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  Speaker 1: eat it. But I'm like, yeah, this is gross. And
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  Speaker 1: it was like in the corner of her mouth and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I was drivaving.
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  Speaker 2: She's so sweet though, because she sees them eating and
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  Speaker 2: she's like, oh, yes, I was.
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  Speaker 1: My kid a fucking furry. I'm not kidding. She tries.
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  Speaker 1: She'll put her food on the ground sometimes and eat
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  Speaker 1: it like a dog.
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  Speaker 2: I did that literally constantly. I'm sure you did it too,
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  Speaker 2: like we all. You never had a saucer of milk
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  Speaker 2: that you drink like a cat.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: Really, she is having fun fliterate the duck now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you've gotta stop. It's expensive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is.
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  Speaker 1: He's so expensive.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe cut up like a hot dog or like something
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  Speaker 2: that you can put in. But I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a mom. I say things and parents are like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you do not do that song.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. She's living her best life though when
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  Speaker 1: she's doing it, but she knows she's not supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you hiding behind the curtain, girl, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: you know you freaking know.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny. One more question I have about Universal. Did
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  Speaker 2: she ride any rides or is she not?
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  Speaker 1: She's old enough to ride the ride in like the
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  Speaker 1: Minion's area. It goes in circles and you can go
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  Speaker 1: up and down. And it was so funny because Summer
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  Speaker 1: Moon was clinging to her mom terrified. Yeah, I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: see Cruisy, but Ocean had her hands in there. No,
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  Speaker 1: she did, looking at me.
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  Speaker 2: She's such a thrill seeker. Yeah, she's such a thrill seeker.
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  Speaker 1: I know, so cute, she's so fine, so I can't
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  Speaker 1: fucking deal with how fun my kid is. We're laying
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  Speaker 1: in bed one morning, because you know, I wake up.
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  Speaker 1: I grab Ocean, I put her in the bed with me.
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  Speaker 1: I have my coffee. So this this morning, Ocean wanted
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  Speaker 1: to go into Gigi's room. Okay, so we go into
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  Speaker 1: Gigi's room. I put on the show whatever, and Gigi
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  Speaker 1: starts snoring. Ocean looks over at her and then approaches
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  Speaker 1: to see where the snory is coming from. Gig snores
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  Speaker 1: one more time, and Ocean just freaking slaps the shit.
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  Speaker 2: O But she does not like HiT's her face? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: what did she do?
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  Speaker 1: Wake up? Yeah, she was like that hers But Ocean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure, was like, what the fuck is that foghorn
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  Speaker 1: noise coming from my Gigi. That's the funniest.
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  Speaker 2: Thing to picture too, because Ocean I can picture her face.
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  Speaker 2: She's so sweet and she's so curious. But this is
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  Speaker 2: something that needed.
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  Speaker 1: To and like, you're annoying me when I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: watch monsters inc right, I know, myhank God, I felt
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  Speaker 1: really bad. At the same time, I was like, bitch,
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  Speaker 1: this is not normal. I get this looked at. No
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  Speaker 1: one should sound like a foghorn trying to like guide
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  Speaker 1: ships in the night.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you, if there was a reality show
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  Speaker 2: of literally just you, Lisa and Ocean all day every
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  Speaker 2: day a camera phone, I would watch the show.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone would jet it's the funniest shit ever.
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  Speaker 2: Funny.
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  Speaker 1: There's my ego again. Someone was like, congrats on four years,
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  Speaker 1: but your ego's out of control. I was like, is
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  Speaker 1: it ego or is it just self love? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they were one in this one, and who the
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  Speaker 1: fuck knows. I've also decided, Jess, because my skin is
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  Speaker 1: like freaking out. I cannot get it under control. And
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  Speaker 1: I've come to the realization that I have to stop
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  Speaker 1: making out for a little bit because I'm attracted to
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  Speaker 1: men with facial hair, and their facial hair is making
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  Speaker 1: me break out on my chin really, because that's where
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, from what you think, like beard oil or just
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  Speaker 2: literally the scratchiness of you know.
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck they do to those things. They probably
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  Speaker 1: don't wash them or are you being serious?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know any men with beards right in
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  Speaker 2: DM the podcast, because I don't know do they wash
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  Speaker 2: them with art. Do you wash beards with like face
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  Speaker 2: wash or do you wash it with something else?
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  Speaker 1: Do you even wash it? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Do you wash it with shampoo?
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  Speaker 1: I would assume I mean shampoo. Well, yeah, it's hair. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But then again, like I shave my cookie and I
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  Speaker 1: certainly don't. It's bald as a cueball, so that would
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  Speaker 1: not up. But I assume that like women who don't
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  Speaker 1: shave their cookies aren't being like time of shampoo shambush
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  Speaker 1: they right, So I don't know, that's.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a Do you like beards or do you
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  Speaker 2: just go for the guys who have the beard?
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  Speaker 1: I just like facial hair. There's just something about like
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  Speaker 1: I tend Yeah, but the dawn doesn't have facial hair.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't, and that's probably why he eats the cookies
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  Speaker 2: so good.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, he's got a lot of face tattoos,
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  Speaker 1: which a beard would cover those up, and then what
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  Speaker 1: would be the point of ever getting them?
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for what you're going through. So we'll take
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  Speaker 2: a break. Let's find some non bearded men just for now,
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  Speaker 2: just for.
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  Speaker 1: Now, or maybe ones that are just like maybe a
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  Speaker 1: little just a little shorter, a little.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, just like the not five o'clock shadow, because I
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  Speaker 2: think that's too short, but like the scruff. Yeah, Kyle
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  Speaker 2: has a little scruff and it's my favorite. And when
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  Speaker 2: there's gray in it. Done. You love a sol I
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  Speaker 2: love it. I love a silver fox.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah me too.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's so hot. I love the grays.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know non bearded men not well. I yeah,
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  Speaker 1: non bearded, non bearded men.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll find some true for the.
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  Speaker 1: Purposes of my skin, right. And it's so funny because
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  Speaker 1: you could tell me it's like, Okay, you can have
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  Speaker 1: the best of your whole entire life every single day,
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  Speaker 1: but your skin's gonna break out, and I'd be like, Nope,
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  Speaker 1: not worth it. I'll never have sex again if you
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  Speaker 1: tell me, I'll never deal with another breakout for.
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  Speaker 2: Real, exactly. No, it's so important. I was listening to
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  Speaker 2: a podcast with a girl who said she was getting
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  Speaker 2: into that thing of freezing her eggs or whatever, and
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  Speaker 2: her doctor said, get off birth control because it will
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  Speaker 2: help you have a choice. But if you get off
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  Speaker 2: birth control, it will help and she said, but this
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  Speaker 2: helps my face and my breakouts. And so she didn't
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  Speaker 2: get off birth control. No, she said, I'd rather just
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  Speaker 2: not have as many eggs or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so it's.
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  Speaker 2: Skin's important to eat a lot of your own, your own.
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  Speaker 2: So tomorrow is talk about tomorrow. Talk about October twenty
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  Speaker 2: seventh and what that means to you.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, October twenty seventh, huge, huge day for me. October
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventh is when I moved all of my shit
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  Speaker 1: out of the old house and left the relationship for good.
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  Speaker 1: October twenty eighth is when that person found out. But
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  Speaker 1: October twenty seventh, my shit was out. I knew that
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  Speaker 1: I was leaving. And it's my independence day, it's your
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  Speaker 1: independen It's a huge freaking day. And you know, I
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  Speaker 1: read somewhere he commented on something that maybe now I
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  Speaker 1: can move on with my life because I've quote unquote
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  Speaker 1: found someone, which, by the way, I have not like this.
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  Speaker 1: Cook you way too good. I'm throwing it baby.
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  Speaker 2: You're not just baby away too good, bitch, bust it
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  Speaker 2: way open.
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  Speaker 1: See it wide open for anyone who comes. Correct. It's
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  Speaker 1: yours for the taking, baby, I deserve that that's you do.
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  Speaker 1: But I posted you know, I'll move on with my
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  Speaker 1: life when I know my child is safe, when I
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  Speaker 1: know the other children are safe, period, point blank. All right,
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  Speaker 1: until then, you ain't sit you in this mouth up. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I will continue to talk about my experience. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, it ain't about you, motherfucker. This is about
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  Speaker 1: me helping other women to say, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 1: strong enough to leave a relationship that I'm not happy,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm strong enough to leave a relationship where it's
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  Speaker 1: not safe, it's toxic. I will never shut up about
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  Speaker 1: this topic. And it has nothing to do with this
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  Speaker 1: person or that person has to do with I am
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  Speaker 1: a woman wanting to help other women who think who
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  Speaker 1: think they're not strong enough. It is my job, my duty,
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  Speaker 1: my responsibility to remind you you are strong enough, and
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to realize that until you decide. I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting the fuck out. So October twenty seventh is a huge,
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  Speaker 1: huge day for.
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  Speaker 2: Me, and I just want to say congrats because October
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  Speaker 2: twenty seventh we were together, yep. And just it's been
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  Speaker 2: a year and sometimes it feels I'm like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it feels like it's been three months, and other
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  Speaker 2: times it feels like it's been like ten years. Personally,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I met you and you know, worked
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  Speaker 2: with you a little bit before everything happened and you
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  Speaker 2: moved out. But the person I've seen in this past year,
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  Speaker 2: and I've told you this before and I'll say it again,
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  Speaker 2: is one of the most badass inspiring. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: not gonna get emotional. What is Oh my god, what
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  Speaker 2: is going on?
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  Speaker 1: It's a big guy.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry God, I'm getting emotional. Just very just just badass, inspiring, strong,
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  Speaker 2: killing it. Like I have learned so much from you
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  Speaker 2: in this past year than I've ever learned from any
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  Speaker 2: woman in my life. And I am obsessed with the
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  Speaker 2: women in my life, my mom, my, sister. We've lived
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  Speaker 2: very privileged lives, and just to just to see you
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  Speaker 2: and watch you this past year, I'm very grateful to
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  Speaker 2: have met you and to be working for you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm extremely grateful for you, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you are a god sent. You know, you came into
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  Speaker 1: my life at the perfect time, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it was just to help me kill it, because we've
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  Speaker 1: never done better. The brand has never done better since
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  Speaker 1: you came into my world. But You were my safe space.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when I knew I was leaving you, you
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  Speaker 1: took over for me so that I could, you know,
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  Speaker 1: try to mentally rap my mind or rout what was
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  Speaker 1: happening in my life. You found me somewhere to go,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you packed my shit, you rented the fucking cars, You
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: put it the paper on the camera so that no
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: one could see anything. You were a fucking soldier and
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I couldn't have done it without you.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: So I love you. And we had our crew that day,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: which is just like the best crow. I love that
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: crew me too.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I mean we were buttoned the fuck up.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's really you know, when people can say
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: it's been a year, move on, but you have to remember, yes,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: it's been a year, but for many, many months, I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: was dealing with so much trauma. So I'm in no
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: position to get into another relationship. Even though I'm in
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: a great place. It's been a year since it all happened.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: A lot of those months were for me to process,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: So really it hasn't been a year. I want to
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: start it from when I can say, okay, you know what,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: we're in a good space. We're going to start the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: healing and I've been healing. It's so crazy because the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: healing kind of just came with time and me purging
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and talking to really strong women around me, talking to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you guys, you know, people dming me where I didn't
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: feel alone, that I felt like I was strong. And
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it's so crazy because so many people from the outside say,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you're so strong? How did you do this? And it's
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: like because of people like you, y'all gave me strength
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: in that moment. That wasn't all me. That was me
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: in that moment saying I'm gonna lean in to anyone
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: who's supporting me right now because they're going to be
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: my backbone for a while.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, full circle and it'll keep going. But the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: amount of people and messages we've got who've said you
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: have done that for them is like incredible.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Well, we're all doing it for each other. Yeah, right,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and I have to I have to share this with
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you guys. So you know those accounts that post.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Blinds, yes, like dumant stuff.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's one called there's one called reveal MOI okay,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and the subject is cheaterd Pumpkin eater message. This ex
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: pump Rules cast member cheated on his then fiance before
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: they got married. He cheated a week before they left
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: for their bachelor party. He was sliding in my DMS
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: up until the bachelor party. And he is a mere
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: twenty years older than me. No matter what he tries
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to portray, he is not innocent. So I fucking comment,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: all right, Okay, I said, I'm sick of these blinds
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: from these women. Who are you and who was creeping?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Look out for each other. Don't be a fucking square
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and hide behind keeping everything anonymous. Bring the smoke so
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: me and my girls know who the fuck we are
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: sleeping next to and can dip out. Yep, I'm so
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: look out for each other. I am begging you. If
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: someone is not acting right, you better come correct. Who
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: are you? Who did you creep with? Show me the receipts,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Give me a timeline where were you at so that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: we stop making babies with these motherfuckers?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Because I think a lot of women when everything came out,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: there were a lot of women, not a lot. There
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: were some women who said, oh, I just thought it's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Hollywood like everyone has. And I know Laala was shocked
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: when I said this to her. But when I said
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: this to you, a while ago, I said, a lot
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of people thought like everyone has like a a what's
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: it called, like a situation? It's an agreement. It's a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: silent agreement. Oh that's how Hollywood is.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Well, guess what that's not. Reach out to us an ass, Yes,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: do you guys have an agreement? So I can tell
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you yes and you can move about your business, or
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I can tell you no and you can come to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: me with receipts so that I can say thank you, girl.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: But it's like, I'm not gonna be mad at you,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: not gonna be mad at you, all right, because you've
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: saved me, even though should you know better probably be
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Guess what if it ain't you, it's gonna be some
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: other freaking girl. So just come to me, because you're
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: actually gonna save us.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come to Lalla, And like she said, go
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: to the other ones. And if you think, oh, surely
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: they have an agreement, you might as well reach out
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: because worst that's gonna happen is the woman will ignore you,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: or she'll go yep, no, we're all good, thanks, or
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: she'll say thank god, you just fucking told me yes,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Like there's yeah, there's no downside really to reaching out
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and looking out for a fellow.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: By the way, all the chicks that came forward for me,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I was not judging them at all. I was so grateful.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you, bitch. M M. I'm not going to be
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: mad about it. Shit happens, Yeah, shit happens in life,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: right Yeah, So happy independence, Happy to meet tomorrow, Happy
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: four years to meet tomorrow or tomorrow.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Already And this is such an exciting episode. People have
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: been asking about this one.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Well, it was supposed to come out last week, but
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, we got to talk about Bravo con
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, people are obsessed. I have DMS being like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: who would have thought Easton would have brought the fucking
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: pipe and hot English breakfast about bravokon Easton all people,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: my little.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Brother, Oh my god, yeah brought it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Out quiet ones with the hat down low, sitting in
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the corner with what looks to be an ankle. Wanted
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: her is really air pods?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I fucking love Easther. Then I wish he lived here,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: he would be he would be on this.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: So we made a game plan. Okay, we made a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: game plan. I think he's going to be out here
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: by definitely next year, I mean, or maybe this and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: what are we in right now?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Permanently we're in October.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be out here by like April or May.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like permanently.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he came out. He was supposed to come for
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: three days from Bravocon. Yes, and instead, you know, we
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: needed each other, all of us. Yeah, and we just
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: took like a mental family, uh dare And he was like,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: we need to be together.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I love that he needs to be here. He needs
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I thought living here because he didn't want to live here.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: But if he wants to live here, he needs to
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: be here.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: We're codependent. We're a codependent family. You can say it's
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: not healthy. I don't care.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's codependent in the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: way that a lot of people will think. You guys
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: are a close family. And I know it from being
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: in a close family. And there's nothing, in my opinion
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: better than that. And mind you, your family doesn't have
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: to be your blood. Your family can be anywhere ever.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But to me, a close family is like what it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: what has gotten me through and it's what I'm sure
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: gets you through.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, and a lot of people were
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: also saying love the episode, but to be honest, I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about what I would do to Easton
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: behind closed doors.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Jop, does he take dms?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he takes dms. There were a few I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: punted over to him.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: There were yeah, yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: You know. I was like, this bitch has been harassing
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: me about you for the past week.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So here, you know, if you you'd have a great
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: sister alow you guys.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Come on, would you though? Yes?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm very protective of Easton. No, today's going to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: be lit. We have Lauren and Michael Bostic on the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: podcast from the Skinny Confidential. His and hers so fun,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: so amazing. They are up next. We did a swap.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to air last week, like I said,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: but it's here today, so you're welcome. We'll be right
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: back with the Bosticks.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Or so you can come back anytime you want to.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Our podcast that was That was a good one.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: You can't tell me that because I take people up
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: on that When they're like, you should hit me up,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, but I am going to do that, so like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: can't I forget.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: I'm not kidding open invite you. You're easy to talk
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to me, open inte. Some people are like, oh my god,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: you're fucking dud and we just got to squeeze it
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: out you. I'm like, come on, like enough of the
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: lemon water.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I always wonder how you guys, because I feel like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: every episode, by the way, I have not subscribed or
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: what is that? What is the word? Like downloaded? Any podcast?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I have? You guys, Heather McDonald my own obviously and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: not skinny, but not that. They're both very talented on
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the mic.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: But all of those people, they both and Amanda are
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: like again like they can just go.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: There's just some people that know how are just quick. Yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: we're like I don't even care who the guest is,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Like I'm tuning in for like you guys or Heather,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: like they could be doing it solo. Like you, you
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: keep up on the conversation even if you had a
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: dud of a game.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: That's why when I was like, you should just be
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: able to like riff with whoever.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You don't totally just like we have this and we
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: have the say it again. You're the star. See this
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: is why I think so highly of myself because I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: sit in a room with you guys, and you're like,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you're great. And then I go home to my mom
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and she's like, you're so great that we could tell
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: me otherwise. Good, let's talk about the new babe. Yes,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about this? I was telling Michael outside,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: just be prepared. I don't have a boy, but I'm
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: sitting here telling you what you should be prepared for.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Tell me everything. But like ZoZ sits there and she's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: like super chic, super cool. Right, we don't see her
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: mouthdowns on social media. Well sometimes we do has them, right,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but even those look chic because you're like in can
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: when she has them.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Her mouth down in santro Pei was iconic. I should
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: have filmed it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Like somebody needs to get their fucking kid in controlling.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I turn around in his arcade, like, oh.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Shit, she's butt naked running through hotel to cats. But
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: you guys, before I had Ocean, I would see other
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: people's kids and I'm like, my kid will never be
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: that way, like the ones running through the restaurant. And
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: then you have a kid and you're like, fuck it,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: run through the restaurant.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: It's honestly, sometimes I'm just like, just let her do
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: what she's gonna do.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: What's her sign?
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: She's Aquarius? Oh what's oceans? She's a Pisces. But Aquarius
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: are just like, oh, you know, I always want to
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: let my kids be who they are. I think what
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: my parents did for me so well is there was
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: never any judgment surrounding who I wanted to be. For instance, they.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Never like push the lawyer or the doctor, like you
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: have to go to school. They were always like, whatever
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you do, just be the best at it, whatever that is.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So my parents were the same way. So I can't
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: wrap my head around parents who are like, you have
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to go to college. I mean, what were your parents like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Michael not like that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I mean they wanted me to go to school. My
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: mom was My mom's half Japanese, so like she was
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: bringing that energy where she was like one. But then
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I was like a terrible student. I was kicked out
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: of everywhere and getting fights and so like they were
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: also kind of like, okay, shit, maybe he's not going Harvard.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, Michael got more detentions than I've ever seen anyone get.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: He was in detention from Monday through Friday, Saturday.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: School.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Who's a he mooned the principal.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Oh he was.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Oh he was horrible.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Because you guys went to school together, right since we
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: were twelve, we.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Could you could relate to me on this. It became
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: a thing where like they were trying to break me
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: down by the detention. So I'm like, I'm just going
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: to get all the detentions.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: And detention is not that bad.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: No, So then they had to convert him to Saturday
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: school because the amount of times. Then they had to
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: convert him to suspensions. Then my Mom's like, enough, dude,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: you know right.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think that you have to be an all
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: star student to do what you want to do. I
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: feel like that's a myth we've been told.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I also think and obviously if people are going
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to like these incredible schools, I understand, like you got
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to be smart. But for me, people are going to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: hate me for this. But I'm saying it's you know
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: how to read and retain what you read? All right,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you're a good test taker, but can you survive in
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the outside world? Also, do you have EQ? EQ? To
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: me is the most underrated thing.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: I don't know why no one talks about no one
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: talks about self awareness, knowing how to interact. Are your
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: arms closed off when you're talking to someone?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Are they open? Are you charismatic? Do you have strength?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Do you have warmth? Do you have a presence? Do
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you know how to.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Speak in front of people? There's so many things they
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: don't teach you in school. It's like, I don't understand
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: this prescription for everyone that they need to go to college.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: The real I wish I didn't go to college. Actually,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that a lot of you went to college.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I'm so impressed. See, But then there are people that
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: tell me they went to college. Like my assistant Jess,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: she told me she graduated from college. I was like,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: holy shit, you're so smart. I really wish I didn't
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: go to college. I wish I put it towards like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the money, No, I wish I wish I took the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: money and started my own business younger.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Well, college and school can be really dangerous for some
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: people because you go through a system that's all based
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: on following rules and then getting the results for following
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: certain rules, and then what happens is you get into
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: the real world and there is no rules, and you
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: come up against people that don't care about any of
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: the rules, and then you're like, wait a minute, I
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: follow the rules and I should be allowed to have
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: success now, and it's like, well, the rest of the
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: world doesn't really care. So, like, I think it could
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: be dangerous for some people that go through that whole
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: sys something in that if you being successful in school
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: correlation of success in the real world, because it doesn't
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: necessarily mean that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: No, And I always knew what I wanted to be
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: from the time I was twelve, and I wanted to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: be on stage. I wanted to be in the arts.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't like I ran in what you thought, yes,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: which is cool though, and I didn't want to do
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like I wanted to be on Broadway, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to be on someone's TV. Well, it's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: so interesting to me because, like I said on my podcast,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you read I read the book, and I think you
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: talk about being bullied, so you almost like took those
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: tactics and then you took the on stage tactics. And
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: then you.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Also I feel like, utilized your looks in the right
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: way in my opinion, well saying you're beautiful and you
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: put it all together and you get vander Pump Roules.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Right, which, by the way, when vander Pump first started,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: you know, they started airing the like tune in the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: new show. I was like, who the fuck is gonna
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: watch that? And then little did I know, someone upstairs
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: was like, bet you're gonna be on that one day
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: because your whole life with the bullying has prepped you
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: for reality television. I didn't realize that I was. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: used to watch reality TV as a kid, what like
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the Real World and shit like that. I love the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Real worlds, yeah one, and I always thought like that
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: sounds that looks awesome, but like, I don't want to
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: do that. I don't want my real life to follow.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: So good at it. That's so nice of you to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: say you are. It's an art. It really is. Reality
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: TV is an art.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: It's I also kind of imagine too, that you get
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: recognized wherever you go. And I don't think that this
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: has talked about enough with celebrities and reality stars. That
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: is people are gonna be.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Like, but it is.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: It's it's an extra layer of stress in a way,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: because I'm sure sometimes you just want to pump gas.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Well, for me, I look at it differently. Because I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: know that I'm I know that I have talents because
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I worked on them as a child because I wanted
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to be in the art. So I know that I
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: have those. But as far as what I'm doing right now,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: which people may consider it a talent or not, but
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: doing reality TV. Without these people watching the show, I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: don't get to do what I do. So I never
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: get sick of people coming up to me and wanting
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: to talk because without them, I don't have what I have.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: You know who else said that on a podcast? Kim Kardashian.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Did she really?
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: She said she never gets sick of people coming up
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: to her or taking photos because this is everything she
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: always wanted.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: See, I'm not a huge I'm a huge fan of
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: like Kardashian, but I don't know anything that goes on
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: or what they say, Like I don't tune into the show,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: or it wasn't even on the show, was on a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: random podcast. Yeah, okay, I love it. So I'm basically
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: like Kim Kardashian. You're basically like Kim Kardashian, So I
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: have to know that people because you have a huge
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: social media following.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: I think that for me, it's not necessarily about the following.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I think what I've tried to do is really cultivate
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: the community, Like I will take time to respond to dms.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: I will make sure I'm answering the questions. Like everything
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: I post has to add something to the person's life.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: It has to make them laugh, It has to entertain them,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: and has to educate them. It has to give them
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: a takeaway or else I feel like I'm wasting their
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: time totally. And I think a lot of influencers who
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: got famous, like in twenty ten, were just like look
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: at my nail polish and look at my dress. And
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I've always been like, instead of like look at me,
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: I'm like, let's look at other people and like put
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: that together and make it a resource.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: I think also the perspective is and like this is
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: not the wrong don't take the wrong Way's just a
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: different thing. It's like because we didn't have a platform
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: where there was like a syndication pushing us, and we
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: we didn't have that, so like the whole time is like, Okay,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: if you're not creating valuable content that the audience or
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: listeners cares about, it's like they're the choice of so
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: many other creators online and we don't have anybody else
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: that's ever gonna step andy be like, oh, you guys
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: are going to go back on a platform next season,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: don't worry, right, Right, we have to be able to
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: go in and be like, Okay, if it's not valuable
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: and people aren't getting some kind of entertainment or they're
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: not getting inspired or not getting educated, like you can,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: they can go choose millions of other people.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: But that's why I'm so impressed by it, because there's
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: so many people who ask me, how did you build
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: this brand? And I almost have to take a step back,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and I almost feel guilty about it because I have
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the luxury and this opportunity was brought to me by
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: being on a show that that kind of pushed me
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to the top with Does that make sense?
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Like not a lot of people do what you've done
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: with that platform, like you I can. We can the
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: real world. You can go through the host of a
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: million reality stars that have kind of just been washed
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: out because like they just rested their laurels on the
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: success of the show and then the show changes or
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: seasons change, or they get cut. That's like you never
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: hearin so like you've built something because you've been smart
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: enough and savary enough to say, Okay, like I have
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: an opportunity, I'm gonna take advantage of it in the
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: right way. Like I'm not, you know, not taking advantage
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: in the wrong way, but like you've been able to
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: leverage that success into other areas of success.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna say. I would caveat that.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: With that you have, you have educated, entertained, inspired. Further
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: from like when you're off the show, you're still making
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: sure you're providing value. You're making people laugh, like whatever
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: it is, you're giving them advice about being in a
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: shit relationship and what they should do. Like when you
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: can give people tangible things that they can apply to
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: their own life, that is where you can take to
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: the next level. And I feel like you're doing that
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: off the show, So you're good.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the show line, it doesn't mean it's the
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: end for you because you've like people now will go
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: with you wherever you go. But a lot of times
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: that's not the case for other people on l TV,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Like the show ends, and it's like you like, that's
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: it for them, right not to like shit on people
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: with that. It's like the majority of people that go
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: on these television shows, like the show ends, they get
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: kicked off. It's like they're dying.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Athony Frankl does a goddamn good job. She does the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: way I I don't look up to very many people.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Bethany Frankel is one of my all times. I am
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: so impressed by her and just what she has done.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: She came from nothing and then on top of you know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: creating her foundation of be strong. It's just she has
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: everything like she's got it figured out in my mind business.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know her personally, but she seems like someone
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: who's got it figured out. Like I want to take
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: what she's done. Like I said on your Guys' podcast,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: if you don't have what I want, and we learned
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: this in AA, then I most likely will not listen
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: to you. She has what I want, so I would
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: take all the advice. Same with you, guys, though I'm
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: looking like I even texted you the other night, which
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't respond to your other one. I'm the worst
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: text for ever. You're just as bad as you take.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I can't when you have a kid's no I know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: so you get it. That's why I didn't feel bad.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: You could literally not text me for eight months to
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: that text and I would be just fine.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's how I am too. That's the kind of
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: friend I am asking you if you had a publicist,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: because you're literally everywhere I don't. That's very nice. I
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: walk in airwon It's like, oh, a pink drink.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like though, like you're on the
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: top TV show, but thank you.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing you're not, and you're still doing
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: crazy shit. That's why I say, I've had my grind
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: for fourteen years, but look at what you've done, like
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: it really is inspiring. It's kind of like looking at
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: someone like Rod Stewart versus like artists today, where I'm
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: like Rod Stewart got to where he is with zero
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: social media. That's true.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: You had to go out and like either buy his
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: little cassette Forever Young.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Don't even talk to me about Forever Young. Such a anthem. Okay,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you have to cue that song. It's such a good song.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: It's so good. So you are someone I'm impressed by.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: But because you didn't have anybody like pushing you to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the top, you did it all on your own. And
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that's why I was like, who the fuck does her
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: PR because you're everywhere. Then I'm working with Doe and
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, by the way, this is skinny confidentials
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: that you'll be We need to give them la dough.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Make it happen, Like who is running shit with you guys?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Because you're killing it. We need to We need to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: give them lalla dough. That would be good.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: And like that green color that you have for your line,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: it's like the perfect it's like a sea foam kind
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: of green.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: The unlock, which I think like you're already onto it's
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: like once you realize that nobody's actually going to do
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: it for you, and that like there is no PR,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: there's no press, there's no agent, there's no manager. Like
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that we haven't worked with great
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: people like we have over the years, but in large
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: part it's been like really understanding that if you want
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: to build something great, like you got to put in
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: the time, you got to from the effort, you've got
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: to fucking do it yourself. Like it's like there's not
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: it's nobody's gonna hand it to you and there's a competition.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: I would also caveat that was saying that it's important
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: to have strategic people around you or or.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And I, by the way.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: That could mean like reading Charlie Munger's book, like I'm
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: not saying like it, and I love how much you
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: love books.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I love them large.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: The largest thing though, is like I think when you
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: think about any of the stuff, are people that have
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: had success in this new kind of landscape roll And
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: it's like, if you're putting out stuff that people find
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: valuable that's helping them in their life, whether it's inspiring
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: them like I said, of making them laugh or educating
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: them or like whatever, like they'll kind of support you
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: enough where like they kind of they're your publicists, like
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: they do it for you. Tell me like we don't
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: have a lot, like a lot of outside resources, but
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: like the audience is so supportive and they back whatever
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: she does.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I also think this is something I think that's in
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: AA just that I learned through my sister, is that
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: acknowledging people.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: People want to be acknowledged. So if you have like
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: this huge following and you can't take ten to twenty
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: to thirty minutes of your day to acknowledge the people
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: that have supported you, you're right, that's a problem. No,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: you're right, Like every once in a while, I'll like
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: put my audiences clear the teacher list on my stories,
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: or all put their brand on my stories, or like
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: all retweet something that you like. You have to support
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: the people that have supported you.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: There becomes a problem when you get too many followers.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: And we all know these influencers now that have ten
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: million followers. Right where there's a there's a wall, there's
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: a barrier between the influencer and in the follower, and
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: that's when it becomes celebrity, which becomes unattainable. What Bethany
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Frankl has done so well and seamless is she's broken
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: the wall down. So you feel like when you're watching
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: her TikTok that she is your friend giving you sound
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: advice and she's you haven't watched her TikTok. She's doing
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: it perfectly. And you know who else is crushing it, Oh,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Spencer Pratt, Well, she's speaking to you.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt has been killing the game.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Spencer Pratt is killing it because you feel like when
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: he is on his TikTok that he's talking to you.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: And he's become so much more likable because you've got
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: to know the ins and outs and the whys.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, he's doing a very good job. Oh my gosh,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: you're giving My mind is going insane right now. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: wish you could be in it. I feel like it's
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: so many going away, like the like the facade between
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the you have to like get down and dirty with
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the people who are supporting you. But I feel like
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that is like the recipe to success these days is
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: when people come and buy you know, whether it's a
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: lip gloss or a palette. They're doing it because I'm
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not a makeup artist. I'm doing it. There's no
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: glamorous lighting. It's like me and my mirror, and it's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: it's something that is approachable.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: I also would layer with the fact that they've seen
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: what you've gone through and they want to support you,
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: which is that that would make me want to cry.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: That's like amazing that they they're going to a checkout
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: you're You're right, you're not a makeup artist. I mean
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: your makeup, whatever you're wearing right now, it's like I
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: don't even think you're wearing anything, but you're just naturally
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: pretty nice. So I think people one want to look
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: like you but they also want to support you and
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: everything you've gone through. And then that is like, oh
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: my god, that's a community.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: That is a community. I mean, do you, Michael help
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: her with when when you came to him with the idea,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: because so you guys are like best friends as well
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: as all loves and friends. I'm playing that in the car.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: She comes to you and she's like, I want to
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: start this line so it doesn't Does he help you
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: with any of that? Yes? Do you help me so much?
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Because you're a fucking genius? No? No, no, he's a.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Gene actually yes, no, no, keep going. What else am
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I not?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: He's a genius with a huge dick. No, Oh, that's
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the best. All I want is to add that to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: my list for the last You know, what's the best
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: thing about this man is his brain?
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Well just I think smart. I think. I try to
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: look at things we were talking about this earlier. I
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: don't even have made in the I think about how
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: things connect, right, and I think like mushrooms all the time.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: I look at more and I'm like, okay, you want
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: to build this online community. Okay, but then if you
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: once you do that, you have to create this content
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: and it has to be these kind of ways and
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: has to serve them in this way. But then once
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: you do that, like what is that? What does that
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: community really want for you? And it's like this product
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: line of course, like we helped fund it and I
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: can help put like operators place and all these things
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: that you take to operate a business, which honestly you
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: can read books about and figure out. Right, it's just
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: like practicing, but it's more important to think about like
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: how is that brand positioned within the entire ecosphere? And
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: is this something the community is going to resonate with?
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: And like when we talk about the product, I'm like,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: does it make sense to come out X, Y or
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Z product? And like what I what I try to
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: do because this is largely her brainchild and her things,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Like I come in with the edits and be like, okay,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: does that make sense to the storyline? Does that make
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: sense to like like if you're gonna launch this, like
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: does it make sense to everything else you've been talking about?
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Or like does this skew really mash up with everything else?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: And I think some people like this Why he's trying
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to say nicely is that I am like psycho creatives
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: and I'll have six hundred ideas and he funnels I
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: think people, right, But that's important to have that oh yeah,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: oh yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: People fuck up in business because they have an idea
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: and it's a short term idea. They don't think all
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: the way to the end. And then what they do
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: is like, when you start having any kind of success
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: in life, you're going to get all sorts of different opportunities,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: and the hard thing is to be disciplined and not
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: just jump at every opportunity, because then you're like like
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: a squirrel just chasing a bunch of different nuts, right,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: and it's like it all becomes disjointed. So it's an
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: easy trap to fall into when you're having early success
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: because everyone's throwing hey, do you want to promote this?
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Do you want to partner with this? You want to
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: do this? You're like yes, yes, yes, and all of
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: a sudden, like your story doesn't make sense anymore, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: the audience is like what the fuck are you doing?
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: And so what I tried to do with anyone I
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: work with is like, hey, how does this all make
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: sense to the long term vision that you're building?
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're different sides of the brain completely, but That's
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: why it works because you because I'm like you where
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I sit there and I'm like, let's do it all.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any fucking sense, but whatever, you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: as long as my logos on it, it does.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: You know you've done a good job. How you rolled
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: out your brands. They your brands do make sense.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Well, you can do it all. You just have to
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: map out how all all of that is coming together
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: and when right, Like sometimes you got to pass like
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: not this one, not now, this one, maybe later, but
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: it's all just got to map out. It's like we
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: all know these people that like, all of a sudden
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: they do something like what the fuck is that? That
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: makes no sense?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: No, I do know because I have this internal battle
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: daily of what makes sense what doesn't make sense, And
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I don't have a person where I can be my filter.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: You can text this anytime if this is my favorite
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: conversation with anyone who I like love looking at a
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: brand from a bird's eye view and being like, okay,
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: move this like a chessboard.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Yes. If I have one talent, it's like and I'm
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: because I know I am, I'm decent on a mic
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: and I can hold a conversation. But I am not talent,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: meaning like, Lauren is the talent, and I can recognize it,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: and you are a talent. And I think where I'm
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: helpful sometimes is by recognizing that potential and saying, Okay,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: now let's like really get what's in your brain, what
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: you really want to do, and like map it out
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: in an organized way.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, no, I love that. I mean, obviously, look at
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: what you've built.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty someone said the other day, They're like
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: they're going to be talking about you in like in
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: podcast like books in like twenty years because what he's
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: done with your media is so disruptive to the podcast space.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: It's so different than what any other podcast network is doing.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: He's building brand, I know.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: Because I'm not interested in actually building anyone's podcast, right.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: That's which is when you're interested in building their brands.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Right, interested in saying like, Okay, this is a good
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: cornerstone of the internet to control a lot of attention
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: and have a lot of engagement, but now, what do
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: you want to do with it?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: And he also doesn't kick people off networks because they
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: said something on a mic, which seems like.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Well, because I don't care about just like this is
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: pretty mind blowing. I don't really care about just getting
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: their dollars right because like, again, I'm building a brand.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: And like, to me, if you're garnishing attention or garnering
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  Speaker 4: attention and people are paying attention, like you have the
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  Speaker 4: ability to then do something great, right.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: He's not trying to control Like hell.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: You know, you know whatever advertisers doesn't like what this
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: person says, they're pulling out. It's like, okay, fine, pull out.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: We're not focused on it, like you're part of it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: You're part of the.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Cash over starting the wind. Oh my gosh, my dad
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  Speaker 1: used to say that. No one has ever said that.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I said it the other day and someone looked at
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  Speaker 1: me like I was insane, and they're like, what does
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: that mean? I love that you just at that. You're
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: like a cute. They're like a fart in the wind.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I have to know, and I literally hate when people
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: ask me this question, but I'm going to ask you
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: anyway now, with two kids, what is the balancing act?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I hate when people ask me this, but I have
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to know, Like, do you feel mom guilt all the time?
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: If I feel mom guilt being here, don't you like,
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  Speaker 1: do you like I feel mom guilt being away any second? No,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I feel that, And even so I obviously am. I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: share my child and I can't imagine. By the way,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: that's no, a lot extremely difficult, and I have to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: plan out my days or weeks with people, and there
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: are times where it's I can't do the whole Like, hey,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: do you want to hang out tonight? I got my kid.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if she's going to be asleep, because I'm
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: going to be there while she's sleeping, So I definitely
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: know what you're feeling just by being here.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: You have to have friends that are not high maintenance,
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: because if someone is high mat like my kids are
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: my number one priority, I want to be with them.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: We were talking about this the other day. We want
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: to travel with our kids, not a lot of people
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: like some people don't, which is fine, that's great.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Can I come as a third wheel with my kids?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Come with ocean?
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: We don't don't want to, Like I think, like the
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: whole point of having kids is to be with them,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: right And like, I get what. Everybody needs a break
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: once in a while. I'm not saying they don't, but like
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: there's you know, there's a lot of people out there
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: that are like constantly trying to escape their children, and like,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: I it has to.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: Be for work for me, Yeah, it has Yeah, it's
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: And by the way, I want to say this, I
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: have help.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to be like I do it all.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I'm an octopu. But you're also but you're also a
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: work I'm glad you're acknowledging that, because obviously having help
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: is a luxury to help, but you also both work.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: You're not a stay at home moms three years old.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm glad that they see me work. It's I
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: think it's an incredible thing for them to see both
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: of us bringing an income.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at the same time, I still have more.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the thing's a part of being
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: a mother fuck though, because you're like it's like you
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: can't win.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: It's like that if you stay at home, then I'm
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: sure there's all these different things with that. It's like,
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: you really, that's what the hard thing for me about
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: being a parent.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: It's not black and white, but when it comes down
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: to the reason I feel absolutely zero guilt about help
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: is like, we work hard to do this and I
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: know that without doing this kind of thing and working
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: the way we do, that I know personally I would
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: not be a happy, fulfilled person.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: But I have asked you as a man, I said,
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: do you feel this guilt that I feel?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: And you said, no, I don't. Is that because a
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: man is supposed to be, like in a cookie cutter world,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a provider?
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think I feel the guilt, not because
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: of any kind of male female thing. I feel like
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I've gotten okay in my brain that like I know
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: what I was saying a second ago. If that if
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I wasn't able to work the way I do and
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: do the things that I wouldn't be a fulfilled, happy
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: person my own life, which would an effect negatively impact
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: my children because I wouldn't be happy, right, and I
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: want to be able to bring the happiest version of
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: myself to my children. So like part of that day
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: includes me, you know, working and being away and obviously
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: utilizing help. And then the other part is I think
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: it's a woman.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I know, but can I tell you I get what
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: both of you are saying. And I had this conversation
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: with Stossy. Whatever makes you feel happy and fulfilled is
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: exactly what you should do right because your kids feel
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: that correct. For me, I'm like you, Michael, I don't
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: think that I would feel fulfilled if I were a
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: stay at home mom. I like to work. I watched
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: my mom work. It's just in my nature where I
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: like to be out there and it just makes me
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: feel independent. It fuels a part of me that needs
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: to be fueled. Where a lot of my friends who
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: live in Utah stay at home moms and they're totally content,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: and then they'll talk to me and be like, but
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like when I talk to you,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: like you think that you're looking at me a certain way,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not looking at you like anything.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: If you are happy and content and fulfilled in your
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: life as a stay at home mom, that is exactly
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: where you should be. And by the way, I don't
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: think I could do it. By the way, what can
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: we just like say this? Everyone is different. I hate
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to be different. We don't all have to be the same.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: There's people can't grasp her fative, like where did we
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: get day's plans for? We have to all love one thing?
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: They think if you say I couldn't be at stay
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: at home mom, that you're shitting on stay at home moms,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: and that's not what it's about. It's about finding what
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: makes you personally happy. And it might be a mix.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe you want to do both, like tonally.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: If there's like one rule that Laura and I live by,
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: like we don't give other people parenting advice. We don't
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: tell them how to parent, and we we do share
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: kind of how we do, but we never say our
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: way is right for everybody else, because everybody's completely different.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: And if you're staying home and you're working, that makes
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: you happy and you feel like a great parent.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Like I will say the best piece of advice that
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I've ever got about parents.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: If you're working and going out and then like that
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: makes you happy. Like I think it's so dicey to
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: just blanketly give people parenting.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: The advice was good. I have to give this one advice.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: Jamie O'Banion, who owns Beauty Bio, has four children. She
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: is running a multimillion dollar company Badass, and she came
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: on the podcast and I was like, like, four children,
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: you gotta fuck your husband.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Like it's like like so much a lot.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: It's like jack you off under the table. Why I
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: make keen wa and like on Instagram, like, what do
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: you want me to do while I'm trying to learn
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: from a podcast? Like it's like a lot.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Is that under the table thing an option?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Anyway? That's always an option. It's always an option. I
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: always rally. So I said, what do you like? What
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: do you do? What's the advice?
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: And she said, Lauren, when I lay my head down
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: on the pillow, I either think I was a great
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: mom today or I think I was a great business woman.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: She's like, I've never laid it down. Thought both Wow,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: And that totally resonated for me because I'm like, Yeah,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be days of the week where I like,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: you're You're not gonna lay your head down on the
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: pillow and it's too high of an expectation on yourself.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I love that I did too. It made me feel better.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Someone asked me on on tour, what advice can you
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: give me as someone who's about to give birth and
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: be a new mom, And I was like, the advice
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you is don't take any advice from anybody.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: It's because you're going to figure it out on your
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: own and what works for you and what works for
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: you is going to be different from every other parent
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: that you know.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: And by the way, and we learned this on our podcast,
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: is You your life? It ebbs and flows and you
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: can be thrown a curveball that no one can understand.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: Like you mentioned like it's hard to find a therapist.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: How can you find a therapist who understands what you've
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: gone through when you've gone through like I'm sure you're
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: like talking to someone and they're like, this is a
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: unique experience.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, totally, No, it's you just go I've
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: learned with life, you just roll with the fucking punches.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I never thought that like AA would come in handy
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: in my everyday life because when you when you're a newcomer,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: you just think like this is gonna help me not drink. No,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: it helps you just deal with life one day at
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: a time. What's the best AA advice? I think the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: best AA advice was when which I said this to
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you listen to people who have what you want. Yeah,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: that's a good one. That one always stuck with me.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like I need to read that book. Is
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 5: My sister told me one that I'm obsessed with, like
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  Speaker 1: of me is none of my business? Yes, they're Can
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  Speaker 5: I know I'm kind of like really interested in reading it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how I haven't read that. You've got
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• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Guys at Lauren Bostic and at the Skinny Confidential.
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