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Amber Balls: Dune Part Two Review, Mission Impossible II & Jake Lloyd · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  something's going to happen the most important thing something gonna happen
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  all right I'm going to sports ball you're going I'm gonna go see the
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  bunnies no I'm not seeing the bunnies unfortunately uh who what animal is
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  playing against what other animal um a
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  CRA Raider who Vikings right finding a
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  tiger oh okay that's a pretty decent matchup I'd watch a viking fighter tiger
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  yeah it's very Coliseum like it is isn't it I'm a thousand years apart sure but
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  uh sure no no they'll be writing this on the field together oh okay yeah yeah
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  they call much of a game if they weren't there at the same time they do play
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  football field don't they yeah welcome to multiple Sports gasm on the football
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  pitch I think there has been a game where only one team played okay I
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  remember my father I don't know if it [ __ ] or I was quite young so I may
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  be misremembering but evidently there was a year in the football where they
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  meant to strike the Grand Final but one team still turned up kick the ball scor
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  a try and we win hang on how's I don't know if that's true so you're saying Not
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  only was there no team there were no Spectators or adjudicators or anything
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  there as well yeah but one team just rocked up they were like [ __ ] this tie
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  on we're going to do it and get it on technicality shamed the way Drew
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  Barrymore got shamed when she yeah standing over the over the picket
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  line um I don't know cuz as I said it could be a [ __ ] story I've never looked into
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  it what welcome to mul nerdgasm that's
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  the of our show Welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things
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  nerdy yeah we got a bunch of other stuff that we haven't looked into to talk
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  about this week There's a long list this week I'm excited certainly a long list
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  yeah and a lot of followup I think we should at least go through the followup
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  okay all right and then a long list of dead celebrities that we can discuss in
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  so and that's where all the dead people are yes yeah and usually where we put
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  Nazi news and there is some Nazi news this week prepare your drinks imagine
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  that all right so where do you want to start with the followup uh I think you might have
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  watched some more Mission Impossible movies how many do you think I watched
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  can you oh wow how many you there are several well I mean I'd love to think
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  that you've now watched them all but last week you told me you'd watched half
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  of one so I assume you've watched to the end of that and maybe halfway through
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  number two I've watched three and a half Mission Impossible this week see I'd
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  like to think that you went back and started watching the original television
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  show oh that would be good that would never even seen that I must admit I've I
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  mean I don't remember I know that I've watched it when I I know I've seen it I
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  mean maybe I did at my grandparents house yeah I don't have Nostalgia for it
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  like I do for some of the other kind of old TV show I have Nostalgia for one of
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  these movies and it's Blinded Me for quite a while number two and you you
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  thought it was good but it isn't oh boy is it not good so yeah I know man I
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  finished the first one loved it [ __ ] great movie great actually some kind of
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  goofy and some bad special effects in it SP but holds up really well a mid90s
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  movie number two I saw that came out in what 2000 um it would have been around
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  thereabouts and it's got [ __ ] limp Biz kid on the soundtrack H Zimmer did
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  the score and it's directed by John Woo oh boy is it directed by John Woo it's
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  it's it's [ __ ] man I know why I liked it when I was 20 but now I watched it I
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  watched and I was like this is rough cuz not only were we 20 but it was also the
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  year 2000 where like late '90s early
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  2000s cool didn't really transcend do we know is was this even a mission
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  impossible screenplay cuz I get the sense that it was not because because I
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  suspect they decided toen it's so different like for so many years because
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  I've not seen any of them but for so many years you have said I should watch
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  the second one cuz it's good it's not good Luke I mean if you want to see some
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  gratuit shots of the Sydney Harbor Bridge you should definitely watch it
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  it's beautiful it's and look it's not that bad it's just that I had it this
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  memory of it and when I as soon as it started like even just the music and the
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  shots and stuff like that I was like man I've seen this quite a lot and then as
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  it went on I was like oh it's been a while though cuz I don't I don't
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  remember that being as [ __ ] but I don't remember so many bad Australian accents
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  and that whole sequence with them riding the bikes at the end and stuff I was
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  just like oh god well the funny thing is when you mentioned the new one last week
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  and you said that there's a scene where he jumps over a Chasm on a bike and then
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  jumps off the bike to kick a guy the thing that I immediately thought of is
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  that that's more adjacent to number two where two people fly each other on bikes
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  and then jump off the bikes and kick that's [ __ ] insane I I said I don't I
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  just somehow I blanked those specific bits and then just even just the fact
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  that I don't know why my 20-year-old brain was like no no no that's fine like
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  why are those guys on the bikes anyway like he breaks into cockadoo Island cuz
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  it's a storage facility before they hi the virus two weeks ago yeah they got the
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  virus there and then he comes out and then for some reason on a little tiny
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  like it's it's a very tiny Island it's the size of a house yeah you can chuck a
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  rock across it yeah there's like security guards on [ __ ] highspeed
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  motorbikes that which then he he knocks one guy off rides off on the motorbike
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  and then for some reason they don't really explain how the B the main bad
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  guys on the other bike why is he on that
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  just whatever and that's to say nothing of the slow motion doves so much slow
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  motion in it so much slow motion where I was actually was just like oh this is
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  actually quite boring this bit and so many the the the the whipping the mask
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  off yes [ __ ] left Center and I'm [ __ ] glad you said that because
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  there's if listeners go back there's an early episode within the first hundred
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  of this of this where you Matthew ham and a former member tell me that I'm the
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  stupid one for remembering misremembering the first one for being
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  the one having all the masks and I was like no no no I'm pretty sure the
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  gratuitous mask off is the second one no I don't know like I said I don't know
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  why I have [ __ ] rose-colored I'll tell you memories I'll tell you why
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  right two words got Li biscuit Ben Stiller that's that too yeah that was
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  good that was better than the movie the fake behind the scenes on the I I 100%
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  [ __ ] loved this movie when it came out it was it but it's so era specific
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  that I look at it now and it's I just cringe like yeah yeah so um the other
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  thing with with the mask thing the actual The Mask effect holds up
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  remarkably well I feel when they yeah yeah yeah like it's quite quite good I
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  mean it's it's a bit silly in the first one when they had the masks on you could
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  tell it was Tom Cruz in a mask and it was like yes cuz it was a mask it looked
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  pretty like it looked pretty good but you could tell it was thing and this
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  it's just like literally just the other actor does the bits and then they CGI
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  the mask off but the effect itself holds up except for like one shot that looks
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  [ __ ] insane where and because this whole thing makes no sense because Ethan
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  breaks into cockadoo Island just with nothing but his leather jacket and his
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  gun MH but oh and his long hair col length hair yeah yeah and and his
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  sunglasses that have Oak with the with the [ __ ] heads up display I wanted
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  those so bad yeah we all did um but then he he the main Bodyguard the South
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  African guy I forget his the actor's name he um yeah yeah he he tricks them
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  by popping a mask on himself to look like that guy and a mask on that guy to
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  make it look like Tom Cruz so he tricks and then the bad guy shoots him where
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  the [ __ ] did he get those from yeah especially since in this in the third
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  one they actually go into a lot of detail about people are going to be
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  wondering how we make these [ __ ] masks and it totally [ __ ] up the second
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  movie in that sense yeah because you got you look at the person you you take like
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  a scan and then there 3D involved process yeah yeah now he just pulls him
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  out of his jacket I mean you probably get a Tom Cruz mask from somewhere I'm sure
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  yeah I was just like hang on a minute that doesn't make any sense and then the
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  bit that I was talking about is when Tom Cruz is running out and he's still got
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  the Guy's mask on there's a shot of him running up the this hallway and he just
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  before he pulls the mask off so it's a CGI they've comped over his head with
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  the other guys head and it looks like [ __ ] Terrence and
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  Philip just that one shot the lighting is just flat and him running up the
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  hallway like like it's literally a still shot of this guy's head and I was like
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  how the [ __ ] did that get left in the best special effects advice ever given
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  to me was by Doug you know Doug who hangs out at the studio with Craig and
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  those guys Doug who doesn't wear shoes right sure he told me that the second
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  you know there's been a effect you'll be looking for how you did it right so the
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  special effect should be the before bits not the after bits in other words if you
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  need to shoot an arrow through someone's head right don't paint an arrow into the
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  after shots put an arrow on the actor and paint it out in the before shots so
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  shoot the actor in the head yeah so that by the time the effect has happened yeah
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  it stopped happening so there's nothing to look nothing to see correct yeah
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  that's cool that's quite clever yeah yeah and I've I've never heard any like
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  Hollywood special effects person say that and just watching movies I know
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  they don't all subscribe to that yeah but this was just a dude who did special
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  effects for tropfest movies who was like no I always do the fancy bit at the bit
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  before you notice not the bit that you're looking at after that's quite
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  clever I do want to go back to one thing you just said earlier though you said
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  you the oakle with the heads up display wanted but I can't I wasn't allow to get Google
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  glass I didn't want him with a head up display I I just wanted a pair of
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  [ __ ] cool looking Oakleys oh okay then okay yeah yeah yeah I I
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  just they they I think they were about 300 bucks and they were the flimsiest
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  looking things and I've the these are in the pile of things that I've since
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  looked at eBay to see whether like I can just satisfy my younger self by owning
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  them later in life Tom Cruz mask that's right yeah I assume once I put the
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  Oakley on I look exactly like Tom Cruz Matt that's that was that's what I
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  thought when I was 19 so I don't see what's changed now you would look more
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  like him than I would because you've got hair so I still have a little
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  bit well you look a little bit like Tom Cruz just a tad yeah yeah so two doesn't
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  hold up as well as I thought it did actually was pretty rough I'm not sure
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  I'd actually ever watch it again is in it though you're almost convincing me
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  that I want to see it again I no do because I just wanted I just want your
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  opinion on it because I don't know if you like I said I don't know if you had
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  this [ __ ] messed up memory of it that like I said I'm watching it I'm going
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  this is not how I remember it no and it's it's because I loved the first one
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  so much that when the second one came out instead of going oh wow this is like
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  '90s cool I was like this is not the same face off had happened and and all
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  these great John Woo movies and I was like this is going to and [ __ ] like I
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  said metal on the soundtrack I was like the best yeah well maybe I
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  shouldn't yeah so made no sense at the time
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  either Mission possible 3 holds up uh they should have made my sequel that I
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  wrote about the blind prostitute dick off there's only one witness a blind
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  prostitute and there's only one way she can identify him Mission puzzle 3 I think
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  holds up um you know good good performances got Philip when Sim Peg
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  came into it oh that's right Philip Seymour Hoffman was [ __ ] terrifying
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  in that movie yeah yeah he's c c that movie that whole film it the opening
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  like I said it's been ages since I watched this the opening is when they
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  [ __ ] shoot his wife it's the opening that's right where he's like I'm going
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  to C 10 and he [ __ ] shoots in oh [ __ ] yeah that's the and I was like oh my God
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  that's intense and it goes back in time to like a dinner party there like like
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  like Tom Cruz is like he's crying he's like please please please you have to do
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  the right thing don't do this and he's it's like and it's
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  like like [ __ ] all right that was good that's when they got JJ they brought out
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  the big guns that's when that that one year where everything was directed by JJ
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  Abrams yeah no this is this is a good one only think I noticed that I mean
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  obviously assume it was a creative choices that like the [ __ ] shallow
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  depth of field oh that was how they did it then too though that was that one
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  year where everything was shot like that on I'm like why is why is everything
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  else BL yeah yeah whatever um that was way more in line with the first one tone
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  wise and everything like more intense like it got serious um yeah
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  but that was a very one yeah yeah and then I watched um four which is Ghost
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  Protocol which is also very good and I forgot the one directed by BR bird
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  forgot oh okay yeah is Ghost Protocol the one where
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  he's like disavowed by the agency and it's the one where the agency they get
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  involved in this mission in the Kremlin and they get yes they get like tricked I
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  guess in a way and and then the whole M was it IMF impossible mission Force gets
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  shut down and then yeah he has to go Rogue to stop they keeping that this gu
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  the new Co and stuff it's the one where he's on the outside of the the B Khalifa
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  yes right when he when he that's when he first started I think doing like legit
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  serious stunts the one that opens when he's busting some dude out of a prison
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  or is that the one after yeah that one that I remember liking that one too does
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  that hold up yeah yeah yeah it's very good yeah like I said I didn't realize
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  Brad Bird did that one I thought um Christopher mcari had done that one but
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  yeah know he takes over at a certain point yeah the next the one that I'll
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  watch tomorrow I guess yeah but yeah so anyway good holds up
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  Simon Peg's very good in them actually uh which I mean I don't know why I'm
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  saying that like it's a surprise I love Simon Peg it's just but I could just
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  weird to me that he's doing where does Al Baldwin pop in does he pop in yeah
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  okay he is he's in the next one no he must be I think Alec baldwi one is is
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  also in the one with which one did a
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  crew member head could it be that
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  one oh God I think I'll just watch it and then we'll discuss I might try to
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  watch it as well I think there's a double cross where he just shoots
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  someone yeah oh God I think there is shadowing we've got some Baldwin news
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  this week actually but it's not Alec Baldwin news oh there might be some yeah
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  there's some Billy Baldwin news what's Billy up to well it's not what he's up
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  to very long what was up to in the 90s W this this may be before biodome do you
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  remember a little movie called Slither mhm which was uh man I remember when
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  this was out because the trailer was just basically Sharon Stone without any
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  clothes on and it was basically the trailer was if you thought she was she
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  revealed a lot in Basic Instinct you should see this movie we don't allow her
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  to wear anything I was going to ask did was slyther Pulver Hoven or
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  no maybe or is it just because Basic Instinct because it was straight after
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  Basic Instinct and they're basically like yeah exactly I I just mush those
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  movies together in my head which you were meant to they certainly hoped you
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  would yeah okay I very confused I thought we'll talking about a different
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  Slither no we're not talking about James gun oh not Slither sliver yeah sliver I
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  think I I might have said the wrong in the
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  middle and now I can't find the real movie but what's the news well the news
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  is that Sharon Stone has uh I mean look it's it's quite
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  sad actually because she was this kind of sex symbol of the 80s and '90s and
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  she's come out now and basically said I was abused and exploited and everyone's
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  like well that's not very nice she saiden like she said ROV tricked by just
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  saying oh there's not going to be a shot of your uncrossed legs but we need you
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  to take your underw off because we can we can see the white in the you know and
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  so she did and they're like zoom in um yeah it's in the movie now yeah I still
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  can't see anything i' I don't I know it's very difficult to see yeah and I've
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  looked I have looked but um obviously she was aware of the sex
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  scenes in sliver but she has said that she was pressured by the uh producers of
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  the film to have actual sex with Billy Baldwin what on camera but like
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  beforehand get their chemistry better yeah type of thing which that's
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  disgusting yeah uh so she's come out this week and said this is the kind of
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  dirty stuff that happened in Hollywood at least back then um but then Billy
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  Baldwin came out the next day and said I think more like she wanted to [ __ ] me
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  and uh I said no and then she was a little
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  annoyed right oh God Billy no that's
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  right so so he he's thinking even some on [ __ ] planet that's true you don't
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  don't say that oh yeah all you have to do is not say a goddamn word this is a
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  lady talking about her rights as in his mind she wanted to have sex with him he
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  said no so went to the producers and went I want to have sex with him can you
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  set this up for me that's how worked in his head that's how I didn't even I
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  didn't even think that far into it but yeah I guess that's what he's
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  implying or he's saying that 25 to 30 years later she's still so embittered
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  that she didn't get to sleep with him that she has somehow remembered it wrong
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  and is is still complaining about he said he called the reporter and he said
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  she's outside my [ __ ] front door right now begging
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  that's right let I'm gonna go get that hose come here now come here come oh no
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  you missed her you just missed her bushes it's an easy story to through
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  the believe is true that the producers would do something like this and this is
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  why we need intimacy coaches now on sex yes unfortunately this is very
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  believable yeah yeah and actually I mean look I can't think of anything worse
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  than like trying to perform a sex scene while somebody was filming
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  you both just take a drink when I said
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  that got moist in my mouth Danny I did see this great interview with Henry kevl
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  because this's the whole big thing about how why is how is Henry keville just so
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  [ __ ] awesome yeah um yeah and it was Interview with him talking about sex
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  scenes in TV shows and movies and uh and he was like mostly TV shows if it's well
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  he was like well I mean they're fine and all but sometimes don't you just think
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  why why are we watching this like what but what purpose does this serve you
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  know the film and he said so I just tend to think you know I don't mind them at
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  but but you know when I'm presented with one I often ask the question why is that
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  in there yeah I must admit I do think that as well and I've I've made many
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  films with sex scenes and then pretty much all my films have had some kind of sex scene
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  yeah as you both well know we have a cheeky clip for the
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  listeners again than straight
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  it is right like it's not progressing the story really to actually show the
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  almost yeah yeah yeah when especially in the 80s and 90s yeah yeah and they had a
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  lot of sex in those movies like just regular movies for kids would just have
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  a sex scene Family movies were they for kids or were they just movies be watched
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  as kids well yeah I mean the rating season was very iffy back then
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  especially with like home video I'm like Dad what does AO stand for videos i'
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  send them in and they' be like too much sex in this that's right but um I mean that
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  when we made the tail job the most recent feature film we said like we've
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  got to put sex scenes and nudity in this so that people know it's a real movie yeah
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  like that's how it works so we can put it in the
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  trailer so I get nude if it works with the
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  scene n is different too because I think yeah like I I would agree and I've got
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  nothing against sex watching sex and you know quite often go out of my way to
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  watch sex scenes of various kinds but but quite often I do see it and I
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  think what a why is this this girl told her dad she's in this movie like did
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  know like you know what I mean like and also like why why do that need to be
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  there well in I mean you finish watching you know like yeah then I finished
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  myself off and in horror movies for example it's a it's a you know cliche
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  now but it literally you know at the time was supposed to be you know
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  titillating you got death and sex and like that was you know it was
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  intentional like the why does it need to be there that's why it's there cuz
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  because then the kids are oh yeah yeah yeah I mean the one that comes
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  immediately to mind that doesn't need to be in there is the Evil Dead which is
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  one of my favorite movies where he's like she gets attacked by a tree okay
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  great yeah oh sure [ __ ] sir yeah that was a bit weird do we need that or we
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  need that yeah that was an odd
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  Choice yeah yeah it's quite explicit very yeah yeah there not left people
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  love it though people love it the first time I ever watched that movie I was
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  watching it with someone who just before it happened yelled at the screen up the
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  [Laughter] clacker right we both know who this
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  person is
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  right um we've got some follow-up from last week um it's not technically
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  followup I just put it in here as a bit of a joke but we did say that um in the
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  next Jurassic Park film we think someone's going to [ __ ] a dinosaur we've
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  thrown our hat in the ring yeah yeah and uh and they've announced now that
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  Scarlet Johansson's up for the the lead role so I mean obviously I think we thought
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  it was going to be Chris Pratt maybe it's yeah maybe it's not
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  H cuz I don't I think if Chris Pratt [ __ ] Scarlett
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  Johansson it wouldn't make a dinosaur baby I'm no scientist I'm no John
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  Hammond you never know you never know maybe he has Amber balls or something
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  with mosquitoes in there I don't know also not a scientist I mean I mean for
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  stards you're just describing this week's thumbnail so thank youz now I
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  don't have to put the title is obviously Amber balls Amber balls yeah yeah yeah
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  nothing had to do with Amber herd no no yeah like this here's the ti SC hands a
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  reply offered lead in next Drac world movie unclear it she be the voice of a
• 24:45
  Velociraptor yes it does say lead yeah I was confused by that at first but I
• 24:49
  think that's cuz she's in some Transformers Animated thing I think
• 24:52
  that's why they made that joke I was confused maybe they're just saying that
• 24:56
  the Raptors are the leads well this could mean that Chris Pratt still does
• 25:02
  [ __ ] her if she's the voice of velociraptor he just has sex with a
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  velociraptor yeah yeah gentlemen this week's in-depth film criticism is
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  brought to you by Jurassic world no it could mean that Chris Pratt
• 25:17
  still fun I'm just going to put this out there Luke is Right more often than no
• 25:21
  to things even if this film isn't that in a few years there will be a film that
• 25:27
  is that yeah yes that's just what happens
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  yeah I'd watch it yeah oh I mean there's I mean after Jurassic Park came out
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  there were a lot of you know Jurassic Park adjacent
• 25:41
  ripoff films came out you know um so I assume that still happens I didn't
• 25:46
  realize until this week how many Dune ripoffs there are and I'm talking recent
• 25:51
  Dune ripoffs because uh I watched June 2 uh this week by the way which I didn't
• 25:57
  put in here we can we can discuss but um in the leading up to it I decided to
• 26:02
  watch Dune one again and I use to watch things these days I use a a little a
• 26:07
  little website that essentially just kind of filters through all streaming
• 26:11
  platforms and finds things for me to watch it's called The Pirate Bay yeah
• 26:16
  it's if the Pirate Bay had thumbnails that's what it is basically um and I do
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  subscribe to all of these I literally just do it to save myself time like that too
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  just just watch I've used before but I don't endorse any particular yeah I'm
• 26:33
  not endorsing I'm not even going to say the name of it but uh I I did that but
• 26:37
  when I typed in Dune there were an awful lot of Dune movies from the from 2020
• 26:44
  onwards you know and how many of them did you watch well I only watched one
• 26:50
  Dune but uh I book marked some because actually I wouldn't mind doing a little
• 26:55
  catalog of of of June ripoffs and just because I don't know I think the June
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  Mythos is something that you could
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  explore entirely bad there's been there were some pretty good Star Wars ripoffs
• 27:09
  in the late 70s early 80s so I'm going to say that 50 Shades of Gray was a Twilight
• 27:15
  ripoff that's true it was a fanfic if I recall it was was it a poorly written
• 27:21
  fanfic I I didn't make I couldn't get through it the only the only passage
• 27:26
  I've ever even heard read from uh um 50
• 27:31
  Shades 50 Shades was was when maim bam read out a passage um to to show us why
• 27:38
  you should not read it I tried to read it and I stopped because I was like
• 27:41
  Life's too short for this yeah well not too short for Dune part two because it
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  was excellent yeah good it was as good as June 1 maybe better hard to say
• 27:54
  because they're both good and they're just two halves of one movie agreed uh
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  there was only one thing I didn't like about it and it wasn't that I didn't
• 28:02
  like about it but I I have one criticism and that's that Austin Butler is so good
• 28:07
  as fad r that yeah he should beore he has so much screen presence that I was
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  like you sure this Timothy charam gues the Messiah because my money's on this
• 28:20
  Hulk of a man like you [ __ ] has cannibal groupies I don't remember that
• 28:26
  from the book but that was a nice touch [ __ ] me is that guy next level he is
• 28:32
  next level and uh yeah good performance
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  yeah incredibly intense performance i' I'd seen him in Elvis and thought he was
• 28:41
  absolutely fine but in this he was captivating cuz he's actually not in it
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  that much even no and he doesn't come into it for a good [ __ ] hour at least
• 28:50
  but then when he's in it you're like [ __ ] that guy is terrifying yeah yeah
• 28:56
  Dave Batista you think he was only finding Elvis because Elvis was just
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  a yeah well and also it was so overhyped
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  like it was the most overhyped movie and performance I think I've ever I don't
• 29:11
  think Elvis ever set fire to anybody so kind of less yeah as far as I know Elvis
• 29:17
  didn't feed prisoners of War to his girlfriends although I don't want to you
• 29:21
  never know you never he was in the Army he was in the
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  Army yeah he was what do you think of um there were some changes I I I feel like
• 29:32
  they didn't really matter that much but there's a certain character who was not
• 29:36
  in it basically yes she she was in it but then she I don't know if we want
• 29:40
  little little winky to wink um and no no one's names were said so if you had read
• 29:46
  the book you wouldn't know who irelan was you wouldn't know who half a dozen
• 29:50
  CU I know I said that last week and I was like maybe they did and I missed it
• 29:52
  they don't right absolutely they do not they do not she's there so I the day
• 29:58
  after I saw it I was I was I was suffering from Dune fever and so I went
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  back and I put on the 1984 David Lynch
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  oh Allen Smithy Dune and I learned more about the storyline in the opening
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  monologue of that than I did in the six hours of the villanes movie because
• 30:19
  telling you what dune's about is clearly not a priority for him he just wants to
• 30:23
  show you the cool awesomeness of it but uh yeah I don't think they ever said the
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  word m or they don't say a lot of stuff and in fact
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  uh the at the very very end of June part two so we're a good five hours into into
• 30:39
  the the story the story at this point somebody goes you know the fman used to
• 30:43
  call this place Dune and I could I imagine Peter Griffin going ah he said
• 30:48
  the name he said the name he said the
• 30:53
  thing do it still got funny right you saw what I meant fuucking hilarious not
• 30:58
  the Messiah he's so humble he doesn't even admit to being the Messiah please
• 31:02
  don't [ __ ] this up you'll embarrass
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  me it's like still gu's not from here you didn't hear his accent yeah yeah
• 31:12
  that's right no he's from sou sorry if we go down to the South everyone's
• 31:17
  Spanish I'll say this though I they
• 31:21
  skimmed over a lot of very in-depth law only to spend a lot of time
• 31:28
  on some stuff that I was like okay all right we get it move on they really
• 31:33
  focused in on the Messiah yes thing and try to make it clear that it's not clear
• 31:40
  yes that's and and they did that very well actually yes yeah the fact that L
• 31:45
  most people don't think he's the Messiah and there's some minations pulling the
• 31:49
  strings including his mom who who just wants people to believe
• 31:55
  it yeah I just every time you say like he's not the
• 31:58
  I just go he's a very naughty boy he is a very naughty boy there's a lot of that
• 32:03
  because in that same thing when in in uh Life of Brian there's this exact scene
• 32:09
  where they're like only the Messiah would deny being the Messiah and he's
• 32:12
  like fine I am the Messiah they're like you heard him he is the Messiah yeah I
• 32:18
  got to say that [ __ ] scene where he gets up and he's like I am the Gad Tarak
• 32:23
  I [ __ ] Goosebumps I was like this is I know man that was so and then Chin's
• 32:27
  there in her head like you [ __ ] idiot she was played so well and that
• 32:32
  character is minimized in every other incarnation of of of this story that
• 32:37
  I've seen but she plays and I don't know whether just zendai is a great actress
• 32:41
  or because delene vineard knows how to write for women but yeah no totally or
• 32:47
  both but that bit where she was like I can't believe you're saying this and
• 32:50
  then in the next scene where he's like or I'm going to get married to someone
• 32:54
  and she's like you're [ __ ] kidding me right you [ __ ] serious
• 32:59
  yeah yeah your dick was in me half an hour ago
• 33:04
  yeah yeah it's so because I mean that's how it is in the book too like it
• 33:09
  [ __ ] blindsides you when you read the book too because he's like oh I'm going
• 33:11
  to marry the princess and you're like he's going to do what yeah and in fact
• 33:16
  that he even they kind of foreshadowed this in the film he even mentions I
• 33:20
  think to his mom at some point early on or she says to him you're going to need
• 33:23
  a strategic Alliance not just some in the book it comes out of nowhere I think I
• 33:29
  think what I love about the religious
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  angle like they've basically said like this is religion in space yeah boom like
• 33:39
  we're stripping every every other aspect all the other politics out of it but but
• 33:43
  they don't even re just when you think they're leaning into one specific
• 33:48
  religion that this is mimicking they throw something else at you and you go
• 33:51
  oh wait this is like at one like they're praying and they they're doing it on
• 33:56
  their knees with their head on okay this is Islam but then they're all
• 34:01
  clustered around like no no no this is this is like biblical hebrewism you know
• 34:07
  like it's it's it's and it's Christianity and all those all these
• 34:12
  different factions who believe various different things about what is is going
• 34:16
  on and and and it's all yeah and it's all horseshit like they're all as valid
• 34:21
  as each other or is it like yeah what they didn't what they haven't done as
• 34:28
  far as I can tell is really explain why the spice is so important I
• 34:33
  know they say we use it for space travel but they don't explain well how they got
• 34:38
  to that planet in the first place without it and then discovered it and
• 34:42
  why it is so quintessential to that's one of the things that they kind of just
• 34:46
  left like and they also don't really lean into
• 34:52
  explaining its effect on Paul because we always see Paul having Visions yes and
• 34:59
  they don't really get more profound after he encounters the spice they do
• 35:05
  get more profound when he has the this the worm the juice mhm um yeah but they
• 35:12
  also don't really yeah you are we enticing you to watch this movie
• 35:18
  L I have no idea what I have to say there one thing I have to say is that
• 35:22
  the way that that all played out was is
• 35:25
  very different to how my head that works based on the book and when I saw in the
• 35:32
  in the movie I was like oh okay that's actually quite simple yes cuz in my head
• 35:37
  it's [ __ ] not simple correct yeah I I was the same yeah like the whole way
• 35:42
  that they I don't want to spoil anything but there's a a certain thing you have
• 35:46
  to do to get this this to a worm to get this Elixir and like I I don't know
• 35:51
  whether it's it's you could say you have to jerk off the worm we all
• 35:56
  know but I just wasn't sure is it is it written in a way that is complicated or
• 36:01
  have I just spent no I I think the Brilliance of den is that he simplifies
• 36:07
  every complex issue in the book yeah you know so I don't remember exactly how he
• 36:12
  describes it but I know that cuz I I remember like the way he describes the
• 36:16
  ornithopters for example which are these helicopters but instead of having a
• 36:20
  rotating blade they've got flappy flappy insect wings and in a in a book you can
• 36:25
  describe that and you can be like cool insect like sci-fi things but I'm going
• 36:30
  to build that that's going to be [ __ ] stupid looking whereas in this it looks
• 36:37
  sick they're pretty sick yeah like because they don't go into it you don't
• 36:41
  see them start flapping and then it starts takeen like you know what I mean
• 36:44
  like it's they've taken that out of it and I think it works it down to its its
• 36:50
  Essence yeah did you think that the emperor's ship looked a lot like the
• 36:55
  Death Star I think he just described that way in the book though but I yeah possibly but
• 37:02
  I also thought it might have been saying [ __ ] Sumi Star
• 37:09
  Wars from stealing from you the other thing this is slight
• 37:14
  spoilers I guess um the
• 37:18
  shields um that doesn't come up the issue with shields and guns and and
• 37:23
  stuff like the interactions of those devices and the explosions that kind
• 37:27
  stuff none of that in this and then also the nukes that's true skimmed over quite
• 37:31
  a bit too like it is a important plot point but they never really not on the
• 37:35
  level why that's important that that is true yeah and they don't go into it
• 37:38
  because I believe in the book The nukes are aimed at the other houses and stuff
• 37:43
  too and it's quite a bit of a standoff that's just not really doesn't come up
• 37:47
  yeah and in fact there there almost is an off camera standoff that we're just
• 37:51
  told about yes yeah yeah I I soend
• 37:56
  sequence I was like how like how how are they going to do that it's so
• 38:00
  complicated and then like I said the other week the secret they just skim
• 38:03
  over it just yeah just don't much just know that Paul made such a big threat
• 38:07
  everyone said we'll do what you want mate yeah but uh the the the things with
• 38:13
  the Shields and how like the reason that Shields are bulletproof but not knife
• 38:18
  proof is because they can only stop fast moving objects but not slow moving
• 38:23
  objects which is why they do knife fights and just make it awesome and even
• 38:28
  though the fight looked bloody stupid in the old 80s movie they actually did a
• 38:32
  better job explaining why that was necessary sure yeah they do show the
• 38:37
  slow movements but they don't really explain it they don't yeah they don't
• 38:40
  explain that that's why it is Luke your favorite scene uh in the book your scene
• 38:46
  of only scene from the book only in the book walked in on the one you found in a
• 38:51
  tree stump that's right yeah pays off in this second movie too because he
• 38:56
  recognizes his footsteps which was a nice and I don't remember that callback
• 39:00
  being in the book maybe it was there and I missed it or maybe that was just a
• 39:03
  screen little uh but I also in the Lynch version it's not just him it's him and
• 39:08
  all his friends literally four people walk into the room he's like I can hear
• 39:12
  all four of you coming in yeah they're like we don't have time for individual
• 39:18
  story lines let's just put [ __ ] gurnie and Duncan and the doctor just
• 39:21
  all walking in but unless I'm mixing this up with another book in the book If
• 39:27
  isn't it an issue where if you shoot a shielded person with a laser gun it just
• 39:31
  [ __ ] everything just [ __ ] explodes they don't even talk about
• 39:35
  lasers in this at do they yeah no no I I swear that's in June could because he
• 39:41
  thought about everything like if there's how anything Works he thought about it
• 39:45
  and if if you go well why don't they just do this there's a reason and he's
• 39:48
  he's thought it up I I could understand why they wouldn't put that in the movie
• 39:51
  though I don't think it would add anything no no it does the shields are
• 39:56
  there they just don't explain why the shield scenarios in there are scenarios
• 40:01
  in the book where it's relevant but he just adjusted things and and then now
• 40:05
  it's no longer relevant no I think all said and done he did he did probably the
• 40:10
  best that anyone could be expected to do with with a very heavy storyline to like
• 40:16
  I said lastek it's [ __ ] weird it's super weird like super weird yeah yeah
• 40:21
  no really but also like he didn't shy away from the weirdness like the
• 40:25
  costumes and stuff like the the [ __ ] big visors and things with no facial
• 40:30
  expressions and no eyebrows for the Harkins and all of that stuff
• 40:35
  like yeah I mean it's not a glossy kind of Pop movie but it's it's very popular
• 40:42
  mhm gu see it Luke I see the first one I got see the first one oh no I told you
• 40:48
  just watch to the halfway point of David Lynch's movie and then go and watch the
• 40:52
  end of this yeah just until he meets the fman and then you can go watch this instead
• 40:57
  okay I might do it one day not today Chie got a lot younger
• 41:04
  that's
• 41:07
  weird or it see now I'm like was younger
• 41:14
  yeah K mlin in my head was older too but I think he was only about 18 when he
• 41:18
  played and I saw it when I was a kid so it's like how I to see Luke Skywalker
• 41:24
  was older than me but when I look at it now he just looks the same
• 41:29
  like I thinkness is about our age wasn't
• 41:33
  he MH mhm people just did look older anyway oh speaking of Star Wars we've
• 41:39
  got some Star Wars followup Gina Carano is in the news
• 41:44
  yeah well I hope she's saying something uh controversial because that's uh
• 41:49
  that's what I like about her I think she's dialed that back a bit I think
• 41:52
  she's realized that's not the path to uh to anything good so she's done this into
• 41:57
  interview this week um and basically she's said she was really upset that
• 42:04
  Disney you know said horrible things about her and did
• 42:08
  they she said this is a quote I just laid down and cried and cried I called
• 42:13
  into a fetal position it's not like I didn't think something like that could
• 42:16
  happen it was that I couldn't imagine they would put out this horrendous
• 42:19
  statement about me after working with me the most powerful entertainment company
• 42:22
  in the world saying that about me didn't they just basically say we don't agree
• 42:27
  with her views they said her tweets were abhorent or something abhorent and
• 42:33
  unacceptable that's actually exactly what they said and uh she was very upset
• 42:37
  by that but uh think I think they off easy
• 42:41
  yeah it's they can't afford to have that going on and should and also she in the
• 42:48
  interview she goes on to say that people told her like Pedro Pascal who um as you
• 42:53
  know his uh sister is trans and uh they had a conversation about it because
• 42:59
  she was saying people think I'm transphobic or whatever and apparently
• 43:03
  she says in this interview Pedro Pascal told her just put hashtag trans rights
• 43:05
  in your Twitter bio and they'll [ __ ] stop like what's the problem just do it
• 43:09
  like if you're not don't don't worry about it but she said she said ah it's
• 43:12
  just not how I how I go H I forgot I remember the thing she said about the
• 43:18
  Nazis but I forget what she said about trans people I don't even know I'm not
• 43:22
  even yeah I mean what did the most masculine woman on television say about
• 43:26
  trans people Matt that's what I want to know yeah I just I don't know it just
• 43:30
  seems like maybe the um the whole you know stand your ground thing didn't work
• 43:34
  so now she's trying to go for the sympathy or something like that oh it was a pronoun
• 43:41
  controversy oh okay oh the beep boop thing in a yeah yeah yeah she thought
• 43:46
  it'd be funny because she oh that's right yeah she said I remember
• 43:52
  that whatever whatever
• 43:55
  anyway this is Boop seriously this will
• 43:59
  be the start of the end for me
• 44:06
  okay well we continue on with Star Wars news this one's probably I think this
• 44:11
  one's a little bit sadder all right Gano getting
• 44:18
  cancelled Jake Lloyd he got it kind of canceled you know what's wrong with uh
• 44:24
  Jake Lloyd now he's just been mental health facility for the last 10 months I
• 44:29
  don't know yeah apparently he was driving along the freeway and then just
• 44:34
  stopped the car and started screaming and and his mom was like I think we need
• 44:39
  to put you in hospital like was talking to the police and was just like word
• 44:43
  salad just making and he was diagnosed as schizophrenic in 2008 he didn't tell
• 44:47
  us he was hearing voices but he was [ __ ] hell the voice was are saying faster and more
• 44:53
  intense you got to remember this is a kid use the force Jake a guy who was
• 44:58
  basically as a kid was told to kill himself by a lot of people yeah that's
• 45:02
  rough I mean that I don't think that can cause schizophrenia but I me obviously
• 45:05
  not going to help but I think can schizophrenia be
• 45:09
  unlocked you know like by trauma I think then they didn't they all they used to
• 45:14
  say it can be unlocked by weed and stuff like that I don't know if that's true
• 45:17
  probably not they used to say a lot of stuff don't know I do know that he was
• 45:23
  in a not very good movie called The Phantom Menace and he was not very good
• 45:26
  in it but I can name another one he was in no I'm just going to say was he in
• 45:31
  another movie I can hardly blame any of that on him he is a [ __ ] 9year old
• 45:35
  kid yes yeah no nine-year-old kids are good actors I've never seen one I don't
• 45:40
  know if it's because of this I didn't see this news article but there was a on
• 45:43
  on I think on Twitter there was a letter circulating it was a letter that Ron
• 45:46
  Howard wrote to some journalist that basically was like how [ __ ] dare you
• 45:52
  name and shame and call out a 9-year-old boy who was in a movie that you thought
• 45:56
  wasn't very good like and criticizes a child like the [ __ ] is wrong with you it
• 46:00
  was like this whole letter he wrote and I was like good stuff take that I'll say this
• 46:06
  though did did you watch the behind the I know you I know you both did the
• 46:10
  behind the scenes on this the DVD of phantom menace never heard of it they
• 46:14
  show the three finalists for that for that of course I've seen it yeah I think
• 46:20
  I watched it before the movie came out because I was to see as well on TV and
• 46:25
  one of them was Jake Lloyd obviously he got the part
• 46:27
  and but there were two other dudes who and one of them was [ __ ] excellent
• 46:33
  like one of them had this [ __ ] evil behind his eyes like you would imagine a
• 46:36
  child Darth Vader would have and I remember thinking like give it to him
• 46:40
  like I know it's not a good movie but like but remember at that time George
• 46:44
  didn't want to have that evil there he wanted someone who became corrup makes
• 46:49
  sense yeah you I know Jake Lloyd was in something else he was what you to say
• 46:54
  you know I know Jake lyd no I know was in something else I think before Star
• 46:58
  Wars jingle all the way that's what it was that's Jake Lloyd yeah he's I wonder
• 47:04
  if he was better in that than he was in Star Wars just because it had a better
• 47:08
  director it's a good movie interested to see wait who directed jingle all the way
• 47:12
  why do I no I don't no I'm not saying I'm just saying it couldn't possibly be
• 47:16
  worse someone named Brian Levant probably one of those career
• 47:21
  directors who's directed a million things came
• 47:25
  years Jackie Chan oh
• 47:29
  okay yeah that's it's it's sort of sad
• 47:34
  yeah between him and best I mean I hope they're friends you know what I mean
• 47:39
  like no best is all good he's got his own show now apparently oh yes that's oh
• 47:43
  it's a reality show right no I I think he's like the lead character in a new
• 47:47
  [ __ ] Star Wars show I so I've good they've done good by
• 47:52
  I haven't watched it but Luke probably has forget correct me if I'm wrong wrong
• 47:57
  I think ahed best plays a Jedi in mandal
• 48:01
  season three no Obi-Wan it
• 48:05
  aroka might be Ahsoka anyway he's he's apparently need some [ __ ] at their uh
• 48:12
  yeah yeah I know best pretty sure it was Obi-Wan I've seen
• 48:18
  Obi-Wan
• 48:22
  unfortunately I even I even watched I Jedi Temple challenge is a game show
• 48:28
  Mandan one episode yeah Mando season Mandan
• 48:32
  okay I don't know they all sort of have merged together in my head a little bit
• 48:37
  even though I know they are different so he yeah he's got a Redemption now I mean
• 48:41
  not that he did anything wrong either let's to be fair he just did what he
• 48:44
  just told as well he's also in a in a movie called Career suicide which I think is
• 48:50
  funny apt but remember he had his YouTube channel a while back yeah oh he's great
• 48:57
  yeah I really feel bad because we OB I've seen him at cons do talks not not
• 49:02
  in person just stuff I've caught up with online and he seems very very funny yeah
• 49:07
  and again it's not his fault it definitely wasn't his
• 49:13
  fault he didn't write or direct it no I
• 49:18
  just I find the Mandalorian it's just went from one of my favorite shows to
• 49:25
  something I had no interest in so quickly I'm not interested in any of them
• 49:29
  anymore literally I I couldn't have imagined 10 years ago I'd be someone
• 49:33
  who's like no I won't I'm not going to watch a Star Wars I'm just not going to
• 49:36
  watch them yeah now because even through the prequels we were like these are
• 49:40
  garbage but let's them for breakfast yeah but now yeah and there just so much
• 49:47
  now I saw a little web comic the other day that was like a father with his son
• 49:51
  on the couch and he turns it off he goes and there you go son that was the Star
• 49:54
  Wars Trilogy and his son's like is there any more Star Wars stuff after this he's
• 49:58
  like nope no
• 50:02
  no there is not look we do get um Andor season 2 soon though yes thank God they
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  film they finished filming it and we do yeah I get a feeling that if they hadn't
• 50:13
  already filmed that that would have just been chucked in I don't
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  stuff Luke you may be getting your Rogue Squadron again yes I might be Jenkins is
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  back is being spoken about again excellent by Pat
• 50:30
  Jenkins look I think they should let me do it I could do it well and it needs to
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  stop being a movie it's a television series well I mean they leaning into a
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  lot of these television series and I don't yeah they might be up for that
• 50:44
  other than Andor and the first season of Mandalorian I don't think we've seen any
• 50:49
  evidence that the series are better than the the movies talking about there's so much
• 50:54
  episode 10 talk recently there's the thing the daisy Ridley movie
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  they're talking about is that going to be episode 10 or is it just going to be
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  something else well I don't know if they're going to call it episode 10 but
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  it's going to be [ __ ] yeah the next part of it's going to be the sequel to episode
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  9 I saw a video that was a deep faked um Luke Skywalker talking about how he had
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  I had this crazy dream that there was this girl like like uh my whole family
• 51:23
  died and she just stole the farm and took on her name and
• 51:33
  yeah yes um at the end of that movie she should have claimed the name Palpatine
• 51:38
  yeah that would have been great yeah yeah Ray sounds a bit Italian doesn't it
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  Palpatine palatino palatino but it makes more sense that she go Palpatine didn't
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  Skywalker the guy not sker yeah yeah
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  yeah no that was tacked on for and and kiss his nephew
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  kissed his that was awful yeah he kissed
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  oh because the funny thing is like they set up from the start that like Finn and
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  Ray were going to be like the potential couple and then they just went nowhere
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  with it I think China said no yeah yeah like that can't kiss one of them yeah
• 52:21
  China no no good and then um uh osar
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  ISAC and John boa joked that they just pretend that their characters are are in
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  a gay relationship again China was like you better not [ __ ] show that in the
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  movie yeah and they went don't worry we won't show that in the movie and they
• 52:38
  were like well you better prove in this third one that if she's going to kiss
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  anyone it'll be a man and it'll be a white man and they were
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  fine yeah kiss made no sense at all no it was disgusting it was unearned it it
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  was it was as unearned as when you retrospectively watch The Empire Strikes
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  Back after you know that Luke and are brother and sister the thing that just
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  annoys me about the those Star Wars you want to make a girl jealous
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  you're going to start macking on with Charlotte are you is that just that's
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  perfectly acceptable know she didn't know somehow she always knew takes place
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  of like over a decade the prequels take place over a
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  decade the sequels take place about what two years the first two movies are back to
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  back and the third one's very close to like hey yeah that's true we're going to
• 53:36
  call everyone no one rocked up and then it's just yeah they're just all very
• 53:39
  condensed it's one little story not some Opera that the other
• 53:46
  were where stuff happened in
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  between anyway good thing we've got those three star war movies to watch um
• 53:57
  we got more good thing we can always just watch those unaltered Originals on
• 54:01
  oh no wait wait there's one more piece of followup I want to mention just
• 54:05
  because I thought it was very funny and there not a whole lot to it but uh
• 54:09
  Andrew Tate has been arrested again in Romania because some streamer friend of his
• 54:16
  Aiden Ross was on like kick streaming and said oh by the way I'm probably
• 54:20
  going to be doing some streams with Andrew Tate soon cuz and he got his
• 54:23
  phone he goes he texted me and he said going to be leaving Romania soon won't
• 54:27
  be coming back it's going to have to be now or
• 54:31
  never the Romanian authorities were like really that's illegal and so they just
• 54:38
  yeah arrested him wow you know the thing that drives me crazy about Andrew Tate
• 54:43
  and that like that kick stream Aden Ross
• 54:45
  and stuff people like them I know I know
• 54:50
  people watch their content and think they are awesome and great even though
• 54:55
  they are terrible human beings yeah I mean look they are living the lifestyle
• 55:01
  so from I guess from a certain perspective if you want to be a [ __ ]
• 55:05
  like them maybe you could get ahead but I mean he's also gotten arrested so
• 55:10
  maybe don't you know enslave women or whatever he was doing allegedly
• 55:13
  allegedly or if you're going to enslave them them for yourself like for your own
• 55:17
  personal use but don't traffic them I think to be clear I think isn't he
• 55:21
  accused of yeah coercing them into doing
• 55:25
  good stuff yeah basically he has a room a place where he gets women to basically
• 55:31
  go on streaming sites and right he takes the money
• 55:37
  and [ __ ] hell wait that's a job yes
• 55:42
  [ __ ] beat the [ __ ] out of my career
• 55:45
  advisor you're like I know women and then I think there's a very
• 55:52
  fine line between the whole it's not that fine doing with could you be more
• 55:57
  specific about where the line is Luke and what the URL is yeah it is very fun
• 56:04
  between just organize it and getting women to do it to getting women forcing
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  women to do it sure yes I think if you're trying to
• 56:12
  convince a woman to do it even without any Force unless she's come up to you
• 56:17
  and said excuse me sir can you help me get on the internet like I don't excuse
• 56:22
  me sir could you help I guarantee you there's probably a business
• 56:27
  people who help me build my career and
• 56:31
  get out there yeah that like I don't have the setup can you like how do I get
• 56:37
  started here I'll give you this room away you go but even did you I mean look
• 56:43
  it's biased I'm sure but did you guys watch that documentary hot girls wanted
• 56:48
  yes no about so it's about this dude he has his house in I think is it in
• 56:54
  California somewhere or is it in Florida yeah anything goes in Florida now right
• 56:59
  soueast or Southwest one of the two yeah and basically if you're girl and you're
• 57:04
  living somewhere in Middle America and you want to become an internet porn star
• 57:09
  then you right can go to him and you'll fly you out there set you up in the
• 57:13
  house give you give you a room and introduce you to all the people you know and
• 57:19
  um and and you can just live this weird horrible disgusting life not not because
• 57:25
  of the sex work per se but just because the dodginess of just the whole thing it
• 57:32
  was just it just the whole thing yeah was gross but yeah he just puts an ad in
• 57:37
  the papers going hot girls wanted call this number and then yeah he will flight
• 57:42
  you call he'll he'll it's not like he hides what it is he'll explain and he's very open as
• 57:48
  well like um okay so there's this thing maybe you guys knew about this but I did not know
• 57:55
  about this right so a lot of the girls their biggest complaint for the jobs
• 58:00
  that he sends them on um they're like yeah yeah like we we knew we'd be
• 58:04
  sucking dicks obviously but what's with the sucking dicks until we vomit and
• 58:09
  he's like that's just what people like now and apparently like that's what you
• 58:13
  got to do if you want to be a porn St now you just got to suck dicks until you
• 58:17
  vomit I I can like I don't want to Kink shame anyone but I can honestly say I've
• 58:22
  never even considered that that might be sexy yeah one of those sites that
• 58:27
  really like really disgusting where they basically just abuse people yeah that's
• 58:32
  the that's but evidently that's your bread and butter if you're going to be
• 58:37
  one of those girls like you don't you're like you're you I'm trying to think of
• 58:43
  like a classy porno all I can think of is Debbie Does Dallas [ __ ] 70s but
• 58:48
  like it's it's it's it's yeah it's not tasteful era is it no and even in the
• 58:54
  thing you sort of Saw throughout that sort of documentary it s like the girl
• 58:57
  start off doing sort of normal normal jobs and then just they're new and fresh
• 59:03
  so people are loving him they're getting more jobs and then well we've seen this
• 59:07
  place before so they have to start going into more bondage and right abuse sort
• 59:11
  of stuff to get the work and then they of who's looking at the
• 59:17
  face like you do get your stars in it but a lot of the lot of the people you
• 59:21
  see uh they'll come in yeah half a dozen scenes and you'll never see him again
• 59:28
  yeah yeah and not cuz they retired gracefully like no because I well that's
• 59:33
  in that I mean you were talking about older ones I imagine the industry now
• 59:37
  you've got to produce content constantly right same with every other industry
• 59:40
  it's just how it is now whereas I guess back in like the 70s and ' 80s you could
• 59:43
  make I mean to be a story when we were kids we were only to have one video game
• 59:48
  and one pornot tape that's right exactly to last the whole year I only had room
• 59:54
  in my hiding spot for one VHS point IE you know I mean like whereas now you
• 59:59
  just go on [ __ ] Google and type in that's the thing it's also free now
• 1:00:04
  don't know how these people are making any money yeah yeah that's a good point
• 1:00:09
  do they only fans is Big that's I mean obviously people pay yeah yeah yeah
• 1:00:13
  that's different but yeah only fans I guess in in a you know kind of taking
• 1:00:17
  back the power kind of way is good for assuming there's
• 1:00:23
  nooice the one to be honest the argument the biggest argument I've seen is that people on
• 1:00:30
  only fans are exploiting other people because it creates this um fake what do
• 1:00:35
  they call that um oh yeah the parasocial relationship where people are giving you
• 1:00:40
  money because they think well you're into she or he or she will yeah yeah
• 1:00:45
  they think it's real and then there's this argument about do people know or do
• 1:00:49
  they not know like yes cuz if people do know they
• 1:00:54
  certainly pretend they don't know yeah but I guess that's what they're paying
• 1:00:57
  for I suppose right that was the argument was that that's the upside is
• 1:01:01
  that yeah they're not going to because I remember I saw a debate um on on I think
• 1:01:06
  it was on Destiny's Channel Once where they were talking about it and then they
• 1:01:09
  had a girl on there saying that like if I went on there and every [ __ ] time I
• 1:01:12
  message somebody I go by the way this isn't real I'm not going to have sex
• 1:01:14
  with you they they're not going to pay for that make any money yeah exactly
• 1:01:18
  that's not what people want and the thing is they're actually paying I want
• 1:01:21
  to [ __ ] you I do not want to [ __ ] you getting respons
• 1:01:27
  because if all they wanted was that kind of top down mass media there's plenty of
• 1:01:31
  that but what they want is personalized experience yes and if they don't know
• 1:01:37
  it's fake then I guess is that the girl's fault or boy's fault okay it goes both ways
• 1:01:43
  not you'd have a hard time convincing me that it's the the man being exploited
• 1:01:49
  there I think I think in the I think in
• 1:01:53
  the in this context I think I think there is an argument for that
• 1:01:58
  like vulnerable people who might there are vulnerable people who think they
• 1:02:01
  have relationships with just people on YouTube yeah who yeah don't even get a
• 1:02:07
  response yeah I can see how that could be a thing I I mean I I can see it but I also
• 1:02:12
  think I don't know unless I'm not convinced that these people are
• 1:02:16
  responsible for that yeah I think that's what I'm trying to say yeah yeah I just
• 1:02:19
  think it could happen I think this is the most democratized version of this
• 1:02:23
  industry you could hope for it's yeah almost an inversion of the power Dynamic
• 1:02:28
  yeah yeah especially converted compared to what you were talking about before
• 1:02:34
  like that guy who was just taking advantage Andrew Tate taking advantage
• 1:02:38
  of these women it's the opposite of that it's like yeah but uh but also I can't
• 1:02:43
  help but think and I know I know a lot of this is just real people in in their
• 1:02:47
  real homes but even when I was working in the media I worked for
• 1:02:53
  this one comp I'm just I'm skirting around trying not to say the name of the
• 1:02:57
  company but they produced fashion
• 1:03:01
  YouTube videos right and they had a
• 1:03:05
  studio with a lot of bedroom sets and they hired actresses to come in every
• 1:03:11
  day and read the script of these very
• 1:03:14
  very real sounding uh influencer type scenarios um that anyone watching would
• 1:03:21
  just think it's a girl in their bedroom talking about what makeups she likes but
• 1:03:26
  it's not it's ad corporations yeah
• 1:03:29
  advertising paid things and um you you just you wouldn't know they purposely
• 1:03:35
  did it in the same low file low file low style that
• 1:03:41
  that you just wouldn't know and and I assume that there's probably some of
• 1:03:45
  that happening yeah on only fence as well because I certainly
• 1:03:51
  happens invisibly on YouTube everywhere else yeah yeah all right I have some bad
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