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MLB All Star Game "tie", Hank Aaron ceremony, Ben Hutchins talks Cyclones · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  I'm Hillary Condon, Welcome to our radio program.
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  Next couple of hours on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Trent Condon and myself, Ken Miller will talk sports with
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  you. Thank you for starting your
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  afternoon off with us will be followed up by off the bench.
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  By the way, Sean Roberts Lucas strain come in two to five
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  overtime. I with a final hour on the Iowa
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  Sports Radio Network prior to tomorrow morning when the first
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  quarter gets underway at six with Heather and Alec.
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  But here's what's coming up on our program.
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  A newbie to the guest rotation. Ben Hutchins covers Iowa State
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  for a variety of different newspapers.
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  Waterloo. He can be found in the Quad City
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  Times, a couple of other ones as well.
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  So Ben Hutchins on the Iowa State beat.
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  We've never spoken with him. Trent today we will do that
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  coming up at 12:30. TJ met the press yesterday, so
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  we'll recap that pick Ben's brain on on the upcoming
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  football season. Cyclone related topics with Ben
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  Hutchins coming up here at 12:30.
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  Hour number two, David Kaplan in his regular spots and Shurion
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  Stone of Iowa sponsors Cappy. We'll talk Chicago sports with
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  the cap man that kind of expand, I'm guess we'll get his take on
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  the All Star game from last night, etcetera.
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  And then we will finish things up with our friend Matt Rudy,
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  who wrote, has written about golf, continues to do so for 30
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  years thereabouts, will pick his brain on the Open Championship
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  that begins in about what, 12 hours from right now.
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  So you'll see the first tee shots, first few players,
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  Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Before you called it. A night we got to be locked and
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  loaded and ready to go and see if we can maybe get a rabbit
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  early. We can go chasing stuff that
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  early on. Okay, I got you.
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  My dance card is pretty full, as you learned during our
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  television show earlier to this morning.
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  Yeah, you've got a bunch, but as long as it's a matter of me, you
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  bet, as long as it's profitable for whoever wins or if you got a
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  saver ticket in there. But nonetheless.
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  So that's what's coming up on our program plays of the day.
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  Trent has this will be fun coming up here at at just before
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  2:00. I'll be giving out some golf.
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  You have to, right? You have to.
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  There's a couple of the WNBA games, but one of them was it
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  took a significant hit as far as viewership.
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  One would assume with the fever and the liberty with the news
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  that Caitlin Clark, nothing official yet.
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  She's got to be done for some period of time.
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  She was in tears walking off the court very quickly grabbed the
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  towel and put it around her head and just buried her head in the
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  towel. She she's hurt, she's the groin
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  is is a significant injury. It's unfortunate.
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  The All Star game is in Indianapolis for one reason
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  that's Caitlin Clark and she's not going to be able to answer
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  the bell. She was going to participate in
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  the three-point shooting contest.
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  Not sure why she's 2 of 35 on the road.
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  She is the three pointer with jazz jism is the Home Run Derby
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  at this point. I I'm just dumbfounded by that
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  trend. I really am.
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  The fact that, you know, she, I mean, how many big shots you
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  made in your life, you just can't make a three, just a safer
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  life at this point. But it's more than that.
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  It's a significant injury and how this is going to affect the
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  team going forward remains to be seen, but it's very clearly this
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  is something that has been bugging her all season long.
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  Hindsight being what it is, she probably shouldn't have played
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  at Carver, but the building sold out and sold out in 2 minutes.
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  She wants to get back and you know her state and entertain her
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  fans and give and I have one more game at Carver so I
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  understand why she did. But man, looking back on it, you
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  wonder if that was the right decision.
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  There is some breaking news for you.
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  This has just been released by the Indiana Fever.
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  Their injury report for tonight, Caitlin Clark listed as
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  questionable. Come on.
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  Yeah. Now it is the right Droid injury
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  are. They doing the liberty a favor
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  because the secondary well, the ticket's already gone.
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  The secondary market maybe that that's going to crash.
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  Well, look, it I I, I hope I'm pleasantly surprised, but I just
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  can't see it. I truly just can't see it.
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  Yeah. I mean, you, you saw her.
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  Yeah, shut it down, right. It's as simple as that.
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  And can they stand contention? For a playoff bit, that's the
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  question without her. If they shut it down for.
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  Two weeks I might even err on there completely err on the side
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  of caution. So the regular season doesn't
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  end until September 11th? Right, you've got plenty of
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  time. So say let's target like the
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  middle of August, OK, let's see August 11th, 12th.
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  So the 12th are home for the for Dallas.
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  Let's see you next. They get the Mystics coming in
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  on Friday, August 15th. You give her a month.
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  OK. Can you keep your head above
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  water if that's the case? I mean, if if you play that
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  direction, they are 12 and 10 right now in good shape to be a
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  playoff team. That would mean she would miss.
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  So I'm going to count it up here, 5678910 games that she
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  would miss. If you give her a month off, is
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  that enough because she's come back Feels like too quickly
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  twice beginning of the season. She shouldn't have played in
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  that exhibition game in Carver. I do not think it's a stretch to
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  say that we look at what has happened this season.
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  He doesn't play in the first pre season game, but he plays at
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  Carver. And did that lead to more
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  injuries playing through another injury that led to what we're
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  dealing with now? Now did they expand the playoffs
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  with the expansion of the league overall?
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  Is it still 8 teams that get in? Yeah, just 8 get in.
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  And, and right now they are in the sixth spot and there's a
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  whole bunch of teams close, including Golden State,
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  including how about Las Vegas under 500?
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  I mean, everything has to end at some point.
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  But I don't know. It's it's it's going to be
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  fascinating to watch as you try to navigate your weight.
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  Now the good news is football will be here.
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  A lot of people's attention as I'm guessing that the the number
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  of TV viewers is going to dissipate.
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  If she's not on the floor, we'll see if she can play or not.
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  I'm surprised that's the actual what's Vegas doing?
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  Here's a better question. What is Las Vegas doing with the
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  number? They posted it.
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  It's 10. It's 10 and there was no line on
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  this game last night. Middle of the afternoon
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  yesterday, there was, and I'm guessing they were waiting for,
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  not anticipating a Caitlin Clark injury, but just wondering, you
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  know, if there would be something that would necessitate
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  a massive number swing. They posted the number, it
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  opened at 9 and is now up to 10. And with the news that you just
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  mentioned that she is questionable for tonight, I'd be
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  shocked. I do wonder, you know, we know
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  quarterbacks, a good quarterback in the NFL is worth 6 1/2, seven
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  points. Also depends on the backup,
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  depends on a lot of different factors.
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  But when you're looking at that top tier quarterback, that's
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  normally what it is. Basketball players in the NBA,
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  depending on, you know, star players, usually it's not as
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  high as you think, 2 1/2, three, 3 1/2 maybe depending, again, of
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  kind of what the backup looks like.
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  What's Caitlin Clark worth to their power question?
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  Great question. It'll be a Kenny White question.
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  Who does those power numbers? I would love to know that, you
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  know, we, we should find that out.
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  That's a, I mean, I, I'm guessing maybe it's come down a
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  little bit because the numbers aren't there like we anticipate.
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  I mean, I thought she was going to tear the league up this year
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  with the off season. She put in the break from
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  basketball, etcetera, right? We just thought that she was
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  going to come out and you know, the perception that she was
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  snubbed etcetera. So there was a reason she was
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  taking all the money she was for MVPI.
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  Think she was off as the second choice.
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  But anyways, we'll see where it goes.
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  They got to win last night. The officiating is just as as
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  bad as I mean, it's getting no better, unfortunately.
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  So let's get to the All Star game from last night and in
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  particular the end and I and I got a question because you and I
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  obviously talk a lot of sports wagering on our program.
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  Our primary sponsor is, after all, circus sports.
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  Were you aware of the format? Once we get to the end of the
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  game, did you know a swing off was coming?
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  That's. The first I've heard of it, I
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  did. You did, Yeah, when they
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  implemented it what, a couple years back.
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  I remember, I think and I think we talked about it at the time
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  and. It's been on a side out of mine
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  right ever since that. And that's got.
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  Into Do you remember watching the game last night where Joe
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  Davis said and by the way, he's good.
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  I miss Joe Buck. Yes, I, yes.
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  Right. He Joe Davis is fine.
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  I miss Joe Buck. Joe Bach, when he hears voice.
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  You're at a really big game, right?
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  And. You don't get that with Joe
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  David. You don't.
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  It might get there. Maybe 10 years maybe.
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  But he didn't he say, am I making this up that we we're
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  coming to the end of the game? Well, we got some bad news for
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  you. Do you remember him saying that?
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  I don't know. I'm sure that what he was
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  referencing was we're tied up at six, six and America, you're
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  waiting for extra innings. Uh huh.
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  And I'm sure he said it. Somebody help me out here.
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  We got some bad news for you. And I'm guessing that was
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  directed at all the Me's out there that either had forgotten
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  about the new format or were just expecting whether it be
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  the, you know, the ghost runner is second base, but mortal,
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  legitimate baseball. And then come to find out that
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  half the guys are gone. Right, Yeah, They're taking
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  their private jets. They're they're on their way
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  because they want to get a 2 day vacation in a minute.
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  I I understand, yeah, I, I get it.
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  I get why they're leaving. They have no, there's there,
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  there's no requirement to stick around.
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  They were there on Monday. They did all the press
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  conferences, They did those requirements, They did the the
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  red carpet, which is kind of new, but kind of cool, kind of
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  cool to see the families and the because when you see, you know,
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  162 games on the road trip, you know, these guys are getting off
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  like you come to work, right T-shirt and shorts and flip
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  flops. And then the red carpet was kind
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  of cool. But so I get why they're
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  leaving. But when they brought out Boone
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  and and they brought out Dave Roberts to announce the the
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  swing off contestants and then you get to the end and you're I,
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  I honestly, I'm wondering this Trent was Jonathan Aranda, as
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  surprised as the country was that he was named to take me.
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  You want me to do that? So on ESPN.com, Jeff Passan has
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  a great article talking about kind of the inside and there's a
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  part with Kyle still stores the the Florida player, the Mariners
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  player, the Marliners player, where the bench, the coach for
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  the Dodgers comes up to him and says probably need to go win
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  after Suarez got hit in the hand and Stauer said you're effing
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  with me. He says, no, seriously, I'm not
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  this is real. He just thought he he just
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  thought he was going to be end up.
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  He wasn't going to play. And now not only you're playing,
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  the play is something that he didn't prepare before and you
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  don't prepare. For that.
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  You don't prepare for that kind of circumstance that you're
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  going to have to go into. You had all that told, kind of.
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  Liked it translated. I hate myself.
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  I know I hate myself. I started to pick up the remote
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  and turn it off because old man Miller was yelling at the
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  clouds. Are you kidding me?
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  And then I stuck around and I'm kinda glad that I did.
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  You know, it was it was entertaining.
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  Especially Schwarber right now. He shouldn't have won the MVP.
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  I'm sorry. Yeah, right.
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  That was an exhibition. You know, you come up here 3
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  balls. OK, big spot, I'll give you
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  that. But you're all for in the game,
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  right? I mean, if you had an Alonzo
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  ticket, I'd be sick to my stomach.
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  Right? Three run shot.
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  Yeah, the American League came back.
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  Came back. But you hit a three run home
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  run. If I had a Pete Alonzo MVP to
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  got to be puking. So let's let's stay on the
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  sports wagering theme for just a second or two more, because I do
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  want to get to what I thought was maybe the highlight of the
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  entire night. And if you watch it, you've got
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  a pretty good idea where you know where I'm going.
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  Let's go back to Monday and it's round one of the Home Run Derby
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  again. I didn't watch a didn't watch a
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  swing. Glad that I didn't.
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  I just I just I've had enough of the Home Run Derby.
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  If you love it, more power to you enjoy it.
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  If you bet on it, you don't have at it, But apparently Rooker
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  kind of got short changed a little bit in the first round.
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  So he and Cal Raleigh, the the big dumper the the eventual
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  winner of the of the event in their first round both finished
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  with seventeen home runs. They went to a measure off and
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  by, I don't know, half an inch. Cal Raleigh's home runs went
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  further than Rooker's. He's declared the winner of that
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  round. He moves on, but but Rooker is
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  batting. He gets to 17 or gets to, he
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  gets to his his number and there's still time on the clock
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  and the, I want to call him a batting practice.
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  Whoever's pitching to. Rooker reaches his hand into the
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  bucket where the balls are stored.
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  Wait a second. There's no balls.
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  It's empty, right? So Rucker, his time is expiring
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  and there's nothing happening. And again, he would have had to
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  hit one out of the ballpark, but he wasn't given a chance.
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  So. Should we be allowed to bet on
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  this? Will racing and gaming
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  commissions around the country take a look at this and say, you
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  know what, maybe this is a bridge too far because don't
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  forget, and you pointed this on our TV show so you didn't
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  forget. These kind of bets were late in
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  coming to Iowa. I'm wondering will they look at
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  this? The NFL draft was something late
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  coming around in Nevada. The NFL draft was something that
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  wasn't there because these are exhibitions, These aren't well,
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  and that's a completely different Rd. when you're
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  talking about a draft. But what it pertains to
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  something like this and you have something that are there hard
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  and fast rules? Do you get a bucket of balls?
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  Is that in? Because he took a couple of
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  swings. Beg your pardon?
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  He took a couple of pitches. Do you get a bucket of balls and
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  everybody gets? An endless bucket?
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  Or do you only get? 40, is it 40, right?
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  I don't know if that's in there. Then you're good.
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  Yeah, you're good. But if it is as many pitches as
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  you can hit in the time allotted, well, that's a
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  different conversation. And what if somebody gets short
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  changed and you look at and they had two less balls in there,
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  right. But when you're putting a
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  wagering component behind it, it becomes difficult.
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  I'm sure that's something in Major League Baseball and their
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  partners because DraftKings and Will, every commercial, they're
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  all over, they're all over those commercials.
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  And I would anticipate if there is some of that questionable
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  kind of part of it. Is there a certain amount of
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  pitches, certain amount of balls?
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  Is that all piece of it? If it's not, they need to button
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  it up. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And I'm gonna guess the big entities will talk to baseball
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  for sure. I'm making sure that that
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  happens. You have to do this or we're
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  gonna because let's face it, there's a lot of people tuning
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  in because they bet the event. Yes, absolutely.
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  John Kaufman. Thank you, John Kaufman.
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  The bad news comment, according to John, was directed at the
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  year that the game ended in a tie.
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  Uh huh. So, And that was Milwaukee.
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  It was in Milwaukee, Yeah, because Selig was.
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  There Selig was. There and they.
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  That went over well. Fox cut to him how many?
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  It felt like 20 times they cut to him as it was.
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  Sinkage further further in his chair.
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  So thank you, John Kaufman. I I didn't understand what he
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  meant at the time, but so here's the other part of it.
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  Let's go to last night. Some depend where you depend
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  where you bet. In your case, we know you bet it
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  circa. You bet the American League.
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  I did. You got a refund.
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  No bet. Caesars declared this a no bet.
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  DraftKings and FanDuel paid out to the National League.
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  So is this a case? And, and we say it knowing that,
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  hell, we don't do it. Know your house rules.
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  I will tell you when I get to Circa on Monday, I'm.
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  Hey, Lucas. Hey, come with me.
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  First time in Vegas. Let's go sit down.
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  Let's read the house rules. Before you do anything.
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  Before we roll the dice, before we throw better bucks on black
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  stay. Away from the bar.
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  Yeah, no drink. It's time to go over the house
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  rules. Let's look through.
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  Look, we're not trying to make a living as a sports wagerer.
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  If you are, then yes, absolutely, you need to know
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  those house rules. But here's the other part.
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  Don't bitch and whine and complain.
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  If you had the National League and it turned into a no bet,
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  that's house rules and it's there and it's laid out.
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  It's just the reality of the situation.
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  You can't complain if you don't know your rules.
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  Yeah, and they. Would have considered the game a
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  tie last night. So although DraftKings didn't,
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  apparently they considered it a win for the National League and
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  FanDuel was the other one that paid the bet.
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  Yes, Caesar Circus said here's your money back.
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  Better, you bet, the National League or the American League.
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  Well, fascinating stuff, but pretty entertaining.
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  Now, here's where I want to go with you to what I thought was
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  maybe as as compelling of television I've seen in a long
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  time. And it's amazing what technology
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  allows us to do. As much as I hate it.
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  Well, you know, 'cause I'm holding that to try to keep up.
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  But yeah, I'm talking about the Hank Aaron thing.
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  Oh, yes. Oh.
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  My. God, what a phenomenal 2 1/2
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  minutes or whatever it was of Television 7. 15 on 7/15 just in
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  Oh I. Forgot about that.
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  I have it. But to be to super superimpose
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  his face to hear both the Vince Scully and the the guy's name
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  from he's from Iowa, for God's sakes.
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  Milo, Milo Perry, Milo Hamilton to hear his call, 'cause he was
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  the Braves announcer, the reason that Vince Scully was there, he
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  was the Dodgers announcer. And I'd like, I'd liked Vince
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  Scully's home run better just because it brought history in
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  into it. And I thought he, as he
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  typically does, was able to weave what's going.
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  I mean, he's so good at what he did, right.
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  But the way they showed him rounding the bases.
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  But it was when the ball made contact with the bat and kind of
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  the firework that went off the trajectory of the ball is to
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  where it landed. If you haven't seen it, if
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  you're on Twitter, it's all over Twitter.
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  I'm guessing you'd find it anywhere, YouTube or wherever it
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  is you go. But good God, that was
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  incredible. It really and truly was April
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  8th. 1974. The.
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  Moment the take us in a little bit to you because I mean I'm
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  it's a highlight of my youth that I saw feels like I've seen
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  that thing 1000 times. Huge part of baseball history
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  and the fans on the field at that time in the South.
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  Yeah. Where?
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  But find Vin Scully solve a call.
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  Rather, he weaves in the where the a black man hit it and the
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  it's phenomenal, the call there. Was the negativity in hearing,
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  you know, Hank threats Yeah, absolutely.
• 19:05
  How dare you break baby's record.
• 19:08
  A black man doing that how? I mean right at that time period
• 19:13
  in the. South.
• 19:15
  And it happens and then you have people on the field.
• 19:17
  It just, it's unthinkable. And think of that moment today,
• 19:22
  if there was that kind of negativity and racism that was
• 19:25
  surrounding something that would be happening and just imagining
• 19:28
  then Oh yeah, just let him out on the field.
• 19:31
  Right, you can't. You can't.
• 19:33
  You can't wrap. Your mind around the number.
• 19:35
  Of death threats that he received as he got closer to the
• 19:38
  mark. I remember that vividly.
• 19:40
  I remember the shot vividly. Look in my mind and I'll go to
• 19:45
  my graves. I, I think I was watching this
• 19:47
  when it happened. I believe I was watching it, but
• 19:50
  I've, I've seen it so many times.
• 19:52
  Maybe I wasn't, but it sure seems like like it's a memory
• 19:57
  that I have. Let's find the Vin Scully.
• 19:59
  We'll get to that because it's so good.
• 20:01
  Vin Scully calls it Milo Hamilton calls it Milo Hamilton,
• 20:04
  who finished up as the Astros announcer.
• 20:07
  He was the Braves announcer at the time.
• 20:09
  Vin Scully, of course, was there with the Dodgers.
• 20:11
  So they played the beginning of Vin Scully's.
• 20:15
  Call of the home run and then the, you know, the final
• 20:18
  whatever it was 30 seconds or whatever of Milo Hamilton's
• 20:22
  call. It's really, really good.
• 20:24
  While you search for that, let's get baseball Benny in here.
• 20:27
  He wants to chime in. Hello Benny, how are you?
• 20:30
  I am doing. Absolutely fantastic.
• 20:32
  Let's not forget there was a third Hall of Fame announcer
• 20:35
  that did the call of that. Was it Kurt?
• 20:37
  Gowdy. Kurt Gowdy was on the national
• 20:39
  broadcast, so there was a national broadcast.
• 20:42
  Yes, there. Was Yeah, Yep.
• 20:43
  Got. 3 Hall of Famers, Hamilton, of course then, and Gowdy.
• 20:48
  And they're all in the Hall of Fame as announced.
• 20:50
  So who? Would he have called it for Kurt
• 20:53
  ABC? It was the NBC.
• 20:55
  NBC yeah, OK, the NBSC game of the week, but yeah, terrible
• 21:00
  that we've come down to a a swing off because we can't get
• 21:04
  enough pitchers or we can't everybody.
• 21:06
  'S gone, I know. It's it's, and I get it, you
• 21:10
  can't have unlimited pitching staff, but they almost need to
• 21:13
  get 34 or 36 million rosters. If we're going to pitch a pitch
• 21:16
  or 1/3 of an inning or 2/3 of an inning, just add more pitchers
• 21:21
  to the mix because nobody wants to see a home.
• 21:23
  We got Home Run Derby on Monday night.
• 21:25
  We don't need to see it or put ghost runners on again like they
• 21:28
  do in the regular no. I'd have gone for that.
• 21:30
  That's where I thought that they were going.
• 21:32
  So what about this, boys? I'm going to ask you both there
• 21:35
  if there was a carrot at the end of the game, like the winning
• 21:39
  team gets the extra, the home field advantage in the World
• 21:43
  Series. Remember when we had that?
• 21:44
  Yes, hated it. You did.
• 21:47
  I did OK. I hated it as well.
• 21:50
  I that the the team that gets deserves home field is over 162
• 21:54
  games. Give it a team.
• 21:55
  What's? Best record.
• 21:56
  So then you. Can't, so you can't expect them
• 21:57
  to stick around is where I'm going.
• 21:59
  I mean, if there was does Otani and Guerrero and Judge, are they
• 22:04
  still there If their if their league's going to get home
• 22:07
  field? I I love.
• 22:08
  Betty's idea of giving five extra All Star nods and you're
• 22:11
  only available if the game goes X-ray.
• 22:14
  That's it. There is nothing that the
• 22:16
  manager feels bad and this is going to be this kids only shot.
• 22:20
  Yes. Absolutely, but you are a deep
• 22:22
  reserve, whatever you want to term it.
• 22:24
  You are an extra ending only player.
• 22:26
  But 5 pitchers on both sides, maybe two extra batters that are
• 22:29
  there. The only way you're going to you
• 22:31
  get to go to the All Star game though.
• 22:32
  And for how many of these guys this is probably going to be
• 22:34
  their only shot. But for those say 7 players, you
• 22:38
  are only an extra ending player. Got a problem with that?
• 22:41
  I don't. I just wonder if you if you'll
• 22:43
  find five guys willing to do that to give up two games maybe,
• 22:49
  but. You have you have people like
• 22:51
  that were complaining about Miserables.
• 22:52
  That's what I'm saying. It's going to be yeah, but you
• 22:55
  had. You had all these guys that, but
• 22:57
  first they want to be invited to an All Star game, especially if
• 23:00
  it's their first cup of coffee and they're a middle reliever
• 23:02
  like Adrian Moorhone. Well, those.
• 23:05
  Are the guys, those are the guys that you invite.
• 23:07
  I don't think you invite the stars to, you know, to sit on
• 23:10
  the bench. I and I'm not sure you invite
• 23:12
  the White Sox closer back next year as well.
• 23:15
  I mean, good God, talk about throwing a monkey, Wretch.
• 23:18
  Listen to the trade deadline, for crying out loud.
• 23:21
  Shane Smith plucks Suarez right in the elbow and all.
• 23:26
  Anyways, Betty, thanks for the call.
• 23:27
  Appreciate. We got to move on, brother.
• 23:29
  Appreciate it. All right, So what have you?
• 23:30
  What have you found, Trent? I have.
• 23:32
  The the clip from last night and it's a little over 2 minutes but
• 23:38
  does it sound? Good.
• 23:39
  Yeah, go ahead. Let's.
• 23:40
  Play it it's it's summer, the day after the All Star game.
• 23:44
  Let's hear it and. It doesn't take a mind Raider to
• 23:48
  the collective mind that's here in this ballpark.
• 23:51
  Tonight they came to see him pass the Bay.
• 23:59
  Once. Again, a standing ovation for
• 24:02
  Henry Aaron, though. The confrontation.
• 24:06
  For the second time, Aaron walked in the second inning.
• 24:10
  He means the time. Run at the plate now and we'll
• 24:13
  see what Downing does down at the Belt.
• 24:16
  He delivers and he's low ball 1 and that just adds to the
• 24:20
  pressure. He's sitting on 7/14.
• 24:30
  Here's the pitch by Downing swinging the drive in the left
• 24:45
  center field. That ball is going to be out of
• 24:50
  here. It's gone.
• 24:53
  It's 7:15. There's a new home run champion
• 24:56
  all time and it's Henry Aaron. The fireworks are going.
• 25:01
  Henry Aaron is coming around third, his teammates at home
• 25:05
  place and listen to this crowd. What a marvelous moment for
• 25:18
  baseball. What a marvelous moment for
• 25:21
  Atlanta and the state of Georgia.
• 25:23
  What a marvelous moment for the country in the world.
• 25:39
  I think that people can look at me and say, you know, he was a
• 25:47
  great baseball player, but he was even a greater human being.
• 26:00
  That's outstanding. Mike Mahon, a former Sid Drake,
• 26:04
  just sent me a reminder. So one of the guys chasing or
• 26:07
  following Hank Aaron around third base and this is 1974.
• 26:13
  Do you, can you see the picture? Can you, can you see actually
• 26:17
  have it in front of you? I don't know.
• 26:19
  It's Craig. Sager.
• 26:21
  Really. Yes.
• 26:23
  And he told the story on on Rich Eisen's show.
• 26:26
  Craig Sager is one of the young people following Henry Aaron
• 26:31
  around third base. I see the picture, isn't that
• 26:35
  incredible? Wow, you know, Fast forward,
• 26:39
  right, you find we're going to be late for Ben Hutchins, but
• 26:42
  find a Vin Scully call because you heard a little bit of it.
• 26:45
  It's so good the way he we weaves, you know, a period of
• 26:51
  time in the country from the 60s, you know, prior to that
• 26:56
  into the home run call and into the South of what was going on.
• 26:59
  It really is remarkable. Here's Vin Scully, the. 2nd
• 27:02
  inning he means the tying run at the plate now, so we'll see what
• 27:07
  Downing does. Al at the belt delivers and he's
• 27:10
  low ball 1 and that's the booze. Yeah.
• 27:14
  Yeah, it's awesome. Proud.
• 27:16
  Booing Downing has to ignore the sound effects and stay a
• 27:22
  professional and pitch his game. One ball and no strikes.
• 27:26
  Aaron waiting the outfield deep and straight away.
• 27:29
  Fastball is a high drive in the deep left center field, but that
• 27:33
  goes back to the Fan City car. What a marvelous moment for
• 28:04
  baseball. What a marvelous moment for
• 28:07
  Atlanta and the state of Georgia.
• 28:10
  What a marvelous moment for the country in the world.
• 28:13
  A black man is getting a standing ovation in the Deep
• 28:17
  South for breaking a record of an all time baseball idol.
• 28:22
  And it is a great moment for all of us and particularly for Henry
• 28:27
  Aaron who was met at a home plate not only by every member
• 28:32
  of the Braves, but by his father and mother.
• 28:36
  He threw his arms around his father, and as he left the home
• 28:40
  plate area, his mother came running across the grass, threw
• 28:45
  her arms around his neck, kissed him for all she was worried, I
• 28:51
  mean. This this cat, Vince Scully, I'm
• 28:54
  referring to he that's wasn't scripted.
• 28:56
  Yeah, right. It's just what if I'm way with
• 29:00
  words? It's there's a reason and
• 29:02
  they're a part of it. Why he's referred to and revered
• 29:07
  amongst baseball fans about as peers.
• 29:10
  Oh my God, he's good, so good. Let's take a time out Ben
• 29:13
  Hutchins on Iowa State. He's coming up next.
• 29:16
  We'll talk basketball and football with Ben.
• 29:18
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  Condon, it's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  I'm Millery Condon. Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
• 29:48
  Network hour number two off to Chicago.
• 29:50
  David Kaplan will join us, Centurion Stone of Iowa sponsor
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• 29:58
  etcetera with cap bears as well. And then Matt Broody, long time
• 30:01
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• 30:07
  Ben Hutchins right now, Quad City times, Gannett papers,
• 30:10
  etcetera, recovers Iowa State, he joins the program talk a
• 30:14
  little Iowa State. Ben, we're grateful for you
• 30:17
  coming on and talking cyclones with Trent and I.
• 30:20
  How are you? Ben Hutchins, I guess what I
• 30:22
  want to start with you because I reading your Twitter page, it
• 30:24
  said you survived your first winter storm.
• 30:26
  Where are you from, Ben? I'm from Oklahoma, a place
• 30:30
  where, you know, we, we have to guess, well, maybe we will get
• 30:34
  some snow this year. It's about 5050 down there.
• 30:36
  And I moved up here and said no, like it's, it's not a matter of
• 30:40
  if, it's a matter of when. Yeah, no, no doubt about it.
• 30:42
  Well, glad to have you, glad you're here and glad you're
• 30:44
  going to talk some clones with us.
• 30:46
  And TJ met the media yesterday. You know, the more and more I
• 30:50
  look at his roster, I'm starting to, you know, familiar as
• 30:53
  everybody is, familiarize yourself with some of the
• 30:56
  newbies, etcetera. And and obviously plate is
• 30:59
  getting a lot of attention a couple of the freshmen, but it's
• 31:02
  the big that they kind of got late in the game.
• 31:04
  The Blake Buchanan. I'm guessing he's going to fill
• 31:08
  Chatfield's role, perhaps maybe elevate that role a little bit.
• 31:12
  Although Chatfield was really good, I thought.
• 31:14
  But the Virginia transfer, Blake Buchanan and some of T JS
• 31:19
  expectations around here. They had a relationship.
• 31:22
  I'm anxious to see where he fits in on this roster and playing
• 31:25
  time. That comes accordingly here,
• 31:27
  Ben. Yeah, you're right.
• 31:29
  That relationship started with Team USA Basketball, TJ said a
• 31:33
  few years ago when he coached Blake Buchanan, who at the time
• 31:37
  was getting ready to go to Virginia.
• 31:39
  And TJ said Blake's awareness, his, you know, mental sharpness,
• 31:44
  picking up on how things go in the basketball drills is
• 31:47
  something that stuck out with him.
• 31:49
  So when Buchanan entered the transfer portal after Virginia
• 31:53
  lost head coach Tony Bennett, he was kind of natural for TJ and
• 31:57
  Blake Buchanan to, you know, rekindle their relationship and
• 32:00
  get together in Iowa. And the relationship that they
• 32:03
  both had with Bennett came along with that.
• 32:05
  And in terms of what he can bring this year, I think he's
• 32:08
  looking at filling a little bit of that Chatfield void.
• 32:11
  And what I mean by that is the physicality of it because 6 foot
• 32:16
  10, he's a big, big guy. And he's going to be that lob
• 32:19
  threat, that rim, you know, guy who who's, you know, rim
• 32:23
  protecting on defense and don't hit the ball.
• 32:26
  So definitely the interior, big physical 5 presence is I think
• 32:32
  where Buchanan is going to show take us.
• 32:34
  In a little bit deeper into Joshua Jefferson, because I just
• 32:39
  rose reading the transcript, I wasn't there.
• 32:41
  I didn't get the tone out of it from TJ.
• 32:43
  It felt like TJ didn't want to talk a ton about it, that he was
• 32:46
  kind of little shorter than he normally is with his answers
• 32:49
  ready to move on, maybe to another topic.
• 32:51
  Did you get the same sense going through the media availability
• 32:54
  with TJ that he just didn't want to stay a ton about the
• 32:57
  Jefferson injury? I did.
• 32:59
  Get that sense. But my my kind of read on it was
• 33:03
  not necessarily that, you know, TJ wanted to shy away from it or
• 33:07
  that he was, you know, concerned about it.
• 33:09
  So he didn't want to talk about it.
• 33:11
  My read was that TJ didn't think it was going to be a huge issue
• 33:16
  moving forward. He did confirm that Jefferson
• 33:20
  sprained his right wrist, which is never great when you think
• 33:23
  about, you know, that injury for your leading returning scorer.
• 33:28
  But also Berger told us that, you know, hey, he's going to be
• 33:31
  fine. That was in the immediate quote.
• 33:33
  And also that the cast is coming off a week from today.
• 33:37
  So he said, why the time Iowa State, you know, resumes the
• 33:41
  getting ramped back up in the fall, Jefferson will be a full
• 33:44
  go. So my read on it is that it's
• 33:46
  not too, too serious. I know Jefferson kind of said
• 33:50
  that at the Iowa Speedway to Scott Reister when he was asked
• 33:54
  about it. You know, it happened in
• 33:55
  practice. TJ said he didn't know exactly
• 33:58
  when it happened, so Jefferson's such a physical player down low
• 34:02
  that it probably happened, you know, on a play down there.
• 34:06
  So my read on it is that it's not too serious and nothing that
• 34:09
  cyclication should be concerned about long term.
• 34:12
  I think it's encouraging when he was brought when he was asked
• 34:14
  about Milan Manchilovic and and you know, watching him play one
• 34:18
  night, he just looks like all worldly, right, Like good God,
• 34:20
  this guy's going in the draft and then the next night he he
• 34:23
  couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
• 34:25
  He just so inconsistent and TJS first sentence sentence of his
• 34:30
  answer. He was asked a bunch of
• 34:31
  questions about him is now it's about the consistency, which is
• 34:36
  seemingly you know what what might might be the final hurdle
• 34:40
  he has to get over in order for him to be considered an upper
• 34:44
  echelon player in the Big 12 because we think he's got the
• 34:46
  skills he's got the ability to be that got a lot of game, but
• 34:50
  the consistency wasn't there and that seemingly is a focus this
• 34:54
  offseason. Ben.
• 34:55
  Totally. And that's, I think, you know
• 34:57
  the thing that all three-point shooters are are constantly
• 34:59
  striving for and searching for. Milan told us yeah, he's that's
• 35:03
  one part of his game he's worked on even more is that 3 point
• 35:06
  shot and a little teaser for cycling fans listening is that
• 35:10
  in the the summer practices here, apparently Monchilovich is
• 35:14
  shooting over 50% from 3. So that's pretty consistent and
• 35:18
  pretty Dang good too. Guys, I think where you look at
• 35:22
  Momchilovich taking this next step is volume of his
• 35:26
  three-point shots. I guess that's a way for a
• 35:28
  three-point shooter to get, you know, more consistent is get a
• 35:31
  bigger sample size. Last year he averaged 5.7
• 35:35
  attempts from three per game. That was up from 4.6 his
• 35:39
  freshman year. This year.
• 35:41
  Austin Burger said they wanted. To get 789103 point attempts up
• 35:47
  every game and not just the open ones.
• 35:50
  They want him, you know, pulling with a hand in his face when
• 35:54
  he's contested because that does stress an opposing defense.
• 35:57
  And even if you do miss those lower percentage shots, you're
• 36:01
  still impacting the game in ways that open up the floor for other
• 36:05
  scorers, something that we really saw last year in the few
• 36:08
  weeks that Mom Chilovich was injured.
• 36:10
  Speaking of freshmen. Brought up, Dom pleaded.
• 36:13
  He's kind of off on his own. He's more of a veteran guy, an
• 36:15
  older guy Of the three others, with Torre, with Bateman, with
• 36:20
  Mitchell. I know TJ talked about all three
• 36:22
  of those guys. Who do you anticipate is going
• 36:24
  to be the guy that if you had to handicap it right now, is going
• 36:26
  to get the most minutes this season?
• 36:29
  I think it may be. Bateman, I've seen just a a lot
• 36:33
  about his scoring ability and he comes in naturally, you know, an
• 36:37
  offensive score. I think that could be, you know,
• 36:40
  an area that the Cyclones are looking through, a place a
• 36:42
  little bit where you lose Keyshawn Gilbert and Curtis
• 36:46
  Jones, you know, guards, your two leading scorers.
• 36:48
  So I could see kind of just an opening for someone like
• 36:51
  Bateman, who's a six foot three, you know, 185 LB guard.
• 36:55
  I could really see a need for that for the Cyclones this year,
• 36:58
  you know, coming off the bench like maybe Curtis Jones did.
• 37:02
  If anything, we've seen that ineffective scorer off the bench
• 37:05
  can be a huge piece for this Cyclone offense, and just ask
• 37:09
  Curtis Jones how that's working out.
• 37:10
  He was the. 6th Man of. The year and now doing well with
• 37:14
  the Nuggets in the summer league.
• 37:15
  So I don't know, just my feel on it right now is that we could
• 37:17
  see Bateman out there a little. Bit let's switch to football.
• 37:20
  Big 12 Media days have come and gone.
• 37:22
  Obviously. You know, I'm glad you brought
• 37:25
  up in one of your pieces, one of the many newspapers that
• 37:28
  publisher stuff, that the main event on the second day was
• 37:32
  clearly Deion Sanders. But back to day one, listening
• 37:35
  to to Matt Campbell speak. And then subsequent to that,
• 37:38
  just the number of coaches that had glowing things to say about
• 37:42
  Iowa State's head coach. But take away or two from you
• 37:45
  from listening to players and coaches that went through Big 12
• 37:48
  media days last week. Yeah, that main event was
• 37:52
  awesome, guys. Deion Sanders was truly awesome.
• 37:55
  You know, that that's been an overused word a lot of times,
• 37:58
  But you know, it was all inspiring to sit up there and
• 38:02
  just watch him have a command over an entire room.
• 38:06
  And, you know, it's kind of funny.
• 38:07
  I likened it to the main event of a UFC fight where everybody
• 38:11
  kind of sticks around for the last guy to go.
• 38:13
  Maybe they knew what they were doing, putting Dion Sanders at
• 38:16
  the end because, you know, you could see all the media kind of
• 38:19
  gathered around. But there's, you know, in terms
• 38:21
  of Iowa State storylines to come out of media days.
• 38:24
  It's always kind of hit or miss when you talk to those people in
• 38:27
  July. But something I thought really
• 38:29
  interesting was something Matt Campbell brought up unprompted.
• 38:33
  We didn't ask him about Joe Resendez, Iowa State's new
• 38:37
  director of sports medicine for football.
• 38:39
  But it was something that Campbell brought up.
• 38:42
  He said, you know, they brought in Joe Resendez, this guy who'd
• 38:45
  worked with the Sacramento Kings in the past, has worked with the
• 38:48
  Usli believe the San Antonio Antonio franchise.
• 38:51
  So he's going to be kind of the new chief, you know, doctor, if
• 38:56
  you will, for this football team.
• 38:57
  And think about how important that's going to be with how many
• 39:00
  injuries they had last year. Max Campbell said, you know,
• 39:04
  that's a huge win. That's a huge addition for our
• 39:06
  team is somebody, you know, like Resendez, who's going to be all
• 39:10
  behind the scenes. So I thought that was really
• 39:12
  interesting. The the players all seem to like
• 39:13
  him. He's somebody who has, you know,
• 39:16
  big ideas about the human body and elevating performance and
• 39:19
  testing metrics, but it's also in their tape and ankles.
• 39:22
  So I think maybe that'll be something that we see factors
• 39:26
  into the season, you know, come week nine, week 10 late in the
• 39:30
  year. Good stuff.
• 39:31
  Ben appreciate it. Lee Enterprise Newspapers, Quad
• 39:34
  City Times, Waterloo Courier, Mason City Globe and Gazette,
• 39:37
  Sioux City Journal, all markets where they they publish your
• 39:41
  work and they listen to Trenton Minds on various stations on the
• 39:44
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Ben, good to get to know you.
• 39:48
  We're going to impose on you again throughout the upcoming
• 39:50
  weeks, months, year. Thanks for jumping on with us,
• 39:53
  Ben Hutchins. We'll be in touch.
• 39:55
  Appreciate it. We'll do it soon.
• 39:57
  Sounds good, yeah. Good to talk to you Ben Hutchins
• 39:58
  is we talk Iowa State. We'll take time out come back
• 40:01
  finish our #1 Miller and Condon Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 40:06
  Hi Miller and Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 40:09
  Thanks to Ben Hutchins for joining us taking a little look
• 40:11
  at Iowa State SEC Media days. Trent, as you know, are going
• 40:15
  on. Can we stop with the Nick Saban
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  stuff? It's not.
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  Going anywhere? Don't do you think I mean?
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  By the time next season, which would be the earliest he's going
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  to coach, he'll be 75 years old, right?
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  And what? What does he have left to prove
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  right? Is it Jesse?
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  Messes at that much maybe, but. Would you hire a 75?
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  How? How is he going to coach for
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  Well if it's Nick? Saban yes, you would.
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  Yeah, even if he's going. To give you a year, yeah.
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  Probably thinking you're Nick Saban as opposed to what else is
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  out there, probably in the open market.
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  Yet you're. You don't feel that way about
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  Bill. No, it's not in North Carolina,
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  no. We'll see.
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  I just don't think it's gonna. I just think he's too old. 75
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  next year. He is Nick Saban.
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  He is Nick Saban. Our two.
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  Cappy's coming up. He'll kick things off off to
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  Chicago. We'll go Matt Rudy on golf
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  trends, plays of the day, circus sports sponsor, those lot of
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  golf coming up with The Open Championship tomorrow.
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  Miller and Condon talking sports with you on the Iowa Sports
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