Latest / The Breakfast Club / The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Zen - Erykah Badu, Stephanie Okafor, Devi Brown + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: In Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:03Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:05Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Yo yo Jesse Hilarry as Semarinie.
- 0:09Speaker 3: It's Thursday in today's show is all about exenting. So Charlamagne,
- 0:16Speaker 3: light up the poly santos.
- 0:17Speaker 4: I do every morning and my candles. We have pray
- 0:20Speaker 4: and I meditate for file.
- 0:21Speaker 5: We'll leave the house. That's right.
- 0:22Speaker 3: When we have some special people joining us.
- 0:24Speaker 6: Today.
- 0:24Speaker 3: We have Debbie Brown.
- 0:25Speaker 5: Come on, that's my good system.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Man.
- 0:27Speaker 4: Make sure you subscribe to the Deeply Well podcast on
- 0:29Speaker 4: the Black Effect. iHeart radio podcast network. Man, that's my
- 0:32Speaker 4: family for over twenty well damn near twenty year.
- 0:34Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Also Stephanie okafor she'll be joining us.
- 0:36Speaker 5: Love Stephanie.
- 0:37Speaker 4: She is a prophet and when she was here, she
- 0:39Speaker 4: definitely spoke a word into us.
- 0:41Speaker 5: That's right.
- 0:41Speaker 3: And also I'm not sure if you know this person.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Maybe many people might maybe maybe not. Erica Baddu she'll
- 0:46Speaker 3: be joining.
- 0:47Speaker 5: Us as well. Come on down. See note, see you
- 0:48Speaker 5: talking about people that I love.
- 0:50Speaker 4: You ain't talking about people that I just respecting like
- 0:53Speaker 4: you're talking about people that I love and worship that's right,
- 0:56Speaker 4: Luther Debbie Browns and Luther Eric Abod Duke.
- 0:58Speaker 5: That's right.
- 0:59Speaker 3: We're gonna kick it with them and little bits and
- 1:00Speaker 3: don't go anywhere. As to the breakfast Tucable.
- 1:04Speaker 7: Is your time to get it off your jask whether
- 1:06Speaker 7: you're mad or blass.
- 1:07Speaker 1: So we got out of the same imagery.
- 1:08Speaker 7: We want to hear from you on the breakfast clubs.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Hello, man, yo, what's good?
- 1:14Speaker 5: Envious?
- 1:14Speaker 4: Out of sight?
- 1:15Speaker 1: Good morning? What's up? How you doing? Charlamagne?
- 1:17Speaker 5: He's out of sight? You blind?
- 1:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a blind brother. Man your I've been listening
- 1:22Speaker 1: to yours, to this your first came on the air.
- 1:24Speaker 1: I've been rocking out with your ever since twenty and
- 1:27Speaker 1: ten six.
- 1:29Speaker 5: Thank you for fourteen years.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, definitely it got me through a lot
- 1:36Speaker 1: of hard times, you know, listening to your but to
- 1:40Speaker 1: the topic of the morning though, with being blind and
- 1:43Speaker 1: dealing with you know, this insurance situation in the medical insurance.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I tell you something that's crazy. Independence is one of
- 1:52Speaker 1: the most important things to me is being independent. And
- 1:55Speaker 1: my insurance would rather pay somebody to come to my
- 1:58Speaker 1: house as a home health pay and spend all that
- 2:01Speaker 1: money to do that when I could just get a
- 2:04Speaker 1: simple device and put it on my glasses and be
- 2:07Speaker 1: able to be independent and move around freely.
- 2:10Speaker 6: Right.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Wow, it's called it's called the ORCM my Eye Pro.
- 2:15Speaker 1: That's O r C A M my eye Pro. Right,
- 2:19Speaker 1: it's an arm, it's a it's a gadget that my
- 2:22Speaker 1: insurance won't pay for, but they'll pay more money to
- 2:26Speaker 1: have a stranger come in my house. You can't cook me,
- 2:29Speaker 1: I add. You know what I'm saying, my house and
- 2:34Speaker 1: mess up my food and everything that I that I
- 2:36Speaker 1: paid pay for my money for.
- 2:38Speaker 7: Right.
- 2:39Speaker 1: So you know I've been a little you listener to
- 2:41Speaker 1: your and I would love it if y'all will help
- 2:44Speaker 1: me get that device so I could be more independent
- 2:47Speaker 1: and move around more. You get hit me up podcast shadow.
- 2:51Speaker 5: How much is the device?
- 2:52Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like a couple of thousand dollars.
- 2:55Speaker 1: It's called the ORCM my Eye Pro r C A
- 3:01Speaker 1: M pro my ipro.
- 3:03Speaker 5: We'll put your cash out about there.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Brother, it's dollar sign blind Faith one four four as
- 3:11Speaker 1: dollar sign blind Faith one four four and my my
- 3:16Speaker 1: my government name ends.
- 3:17Speaker 5: With two Z.
- 3:18Speaker 1: So you know it's me and I'm one fat You
- 3:22Speaker 1: see my video Baby Mama Salute. I came in and
- 3:25Speaker 1: showed you my video Baby Mama Salute. You was always
- 3:28Speaker 1: saying I couldn't wrap, so I kept getting better and
- 3:31Speaker 1: better because of you, Charlamine. So when I came up
- 3:33Speaker 1: with the baby Mama Salute video, a thousand people went
- 3:37Speaker 1: to check out the video. I like the rap and
- 3:39Speaker 1: I like to do showcases, not because I wanted to
- 3:42Speaker 1: be a famous rapper. I just love the music and
- 3:44Speaker 1: I love hip hop and I love power one oh five.
- 3:47Speaker 5: That's what A go with.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Yeah, I just contributed something to your h your iPhone glasses.
- 3:53Speaker 5: What do you said?
- 3:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you meant.
- 3:55Speaker 7: Yeah, all racan whatever it's called.
- 3:57Speaker 5: Yes, the glass to help them see it ain't matter,
- 4:00Speaker 5: did think?
- 4:01Speaker 6: So?
- 4:02Speaker 3: Hello, who's this?
- 4:03Speaker 8: Good morning people? We'll call them some Jersey. Let me
- 4:07Speaker 8: just start off by by just giving everybody flowers. Saw
- 4:10Speaker 8: off you envy. A lot of times you get overlooked there,
- 4:13Speaker 8: But what you did from miss Jones back in the day,
- 4:15Speaker 8: you caught the collar when things about to go go
- 4:18Speaker 8: left at the other down of Dows. You don't figure
- 4:20Speaker 8: it up, but she talks about it, and so your
- 4:23Speaker 8: kudos for that for being loyal to somebody that looked
- 4:25Speaker 8: out for you, you know, and you know she's local.
- 4:29Speaker 8: Her kid goes to BC, so she's out in there.
- 4:31Speaker 8: You probably see her, you know, on her regular basis.
- 4:34Speaker 8: I'm not sure, Jess. Congratulations on the kids. Just the
- 4:38Speaker 8: second going around and maybe some of the things that
- 4:40Speaker 8: you may have not necessarily took for granted but didn't
- 4:43Speaker 8: you just like totally get a chance to appreciate because
- 4:45Speaker 8: it was maybe a little bit overwhelming, but embraced it
- 4:48Speaker 8: all man, from the smell to the site, to the last,
- 4:51Speaker 8: to the giggle, to the poops and all of that
- 4:54Speaker 8: because you know, as you already know, it goes so fast,
- 4:57Speaker 8: and you know it's the moment in time, and those
- 4:59Speaker 8: two beside you, they can attest to it as well.
- 5:01Speaker 8: And even though they have more every situation and every kid,
- 5:05Speaker 8: there's something unique to it.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, mister.
- 5:08Speaker 8: Charlemagne's brother to you. And in our culture, the greatest
- 5:13Speaker 8: pivot of all time was probably Malcolm x Uh. He
- 5:16Speaker 8: went from one extreme together. Dick Gregory was another UH
- 5:21Speaker 8: that did a phenomenal pivot, going from being a commed
- 5:23Speaker 8: a crash comedian but then switching that into being like
- 5:27Speaker 8: an advocate, associate justice fighter, and so forth. Uh in
- 5:32Speaker 8: your trajectory seems like it's on that path. So salute
- 5:35Speaker 8: to you and keep up the good work, because you
- 5:39Speaker 8: back in the day you did have a lot of
- 5:40Speaker 8: jerk juice on your brother, but you kind of set
- 5:42Speaker 8: around and do a lot of the different things jerked
- 5:45Speaker 8: you pause.
- 5:49Speaker 5: Pause, thank you, yes, thank you.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Will get it off your chest eight hundred and five
- 5:54Speaker 3: eight five one five one.
- 5:56Speaker 5: The breakfast Clug of morning, the Breakfast Club.
- 6:04Speaker 9: What you're doing, call of yo.
- 6:07Speaker 3: This is your time to get it off your chest,
- 6:09Speaker 3: whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred five one.
- 6:12Speaker 7: We want to hear from you on the breakfast club.
- 6:15Speaker 10: Hello.
- 6:15Speaker 7: Who's this? Hey?
- 6:16Speaker 11: This is your girl Bioncle from Atlanta back in the building.
- 6:21Speaker 3: What's up, uncle?
- 6:22Speaker 2: How you doing?
- 6:22Speaker 11: Good morning, Good morning? Everybody is so good to hear
- 6:25Speaker 11: from y'all. I got two things to get off my chest,
- 6:29Speaker 11: all right. First thing the grand openings for Bankkad and Seafood,
- 6:33Speaker 11: presented by t I and Killer Mike. Everybody keep asking
- 6:37Speaker 11: me how was the food. Unfortunately I didn't get a
- 6:39Speaker 11: chance to try to fool but it was good to
- 6:42Speaker 11: see the two brothers coming out opening up their businesses
- 6:45Speaker 11: and having some opportunities for people like us in the community. Also,
- 6:50Speaker 11: I would like to shout out my non profits. It's
- 6:53Speaker 11: called Forever I Love the Atlanta. First stell if you
- 6:57Speaker 11: are and we help people in the inner city who
- 7:00Speaker 11: got pet family is anybody who would need assistant We
- 7:05Speaker 11: helped to get those low costs of free We do
- 7:08Speaker 11: a lot of free giveaways. We support a lot of
- 7:11Speaker 11: the at aliens like me who like reptiles and just
- 7:14Speaker 11: who like the animal life.
- 7:16Speaker 8: I used to be an animal control officer, so this
- 7:19Speaker 8: is my.
- 7:19Speaker 11: Way of giving back to the community. I'm looking to
- 7:21Speaker 11: link up with other people and connect and be able
- 7:25Speaker 11: to collab on some events. You can reach me at
- 7:28Speaker 11: Forever I Love Atlanta at gmail dot com and hit
- 7:31Speaker 11: me up on Facebook and Instagram.
- 7:33Speaker 8: Thank y'all so much.
- 7:36Speaker 5: Hello. Who's this?
- 7:37Speaker 12: Hello to James, North Carolina.
- 7:39Speaker 5: What's up off your chest?
- 7:41Speaker 6: Yo?
- 7:42Speaker 12: I would started to see if y'all had heard this story.
- 7:45Speaker 12: And this Florida dude some years that wanted to come
- 7:48Speaker 12: up with some money so he can get some concert tickets.
- 7:51Speaker 12: So he goes online saying he'll do anything to earn
- 7:54Speaker 12: some money. This guy hit him up and tells him
- 7:57Speaker 12: he wants to hire him to put off three of
- 7:58Speaker 12: his toes, couok him up and eat him, and he
- 8:01Speaker 12: give him four thousand dollars and the dude tries to
- 8:05Speaker 12: go through with it, but the guy that wanted his
- 8:07Speaker 12: toes up ended up going back on his word and
- 8:10Speaker 12: saying he can't go through with it, but he ended
- 8:12Speaker 12: up paying a dude anyway, y'all ain't never heard that story.
- 8:16Speaker 5: I never heard that story.
- 8:18Speaker 3: And there's nobody I want to see that bad to
- 8:20Speaker 3: cut off my fingers and toes. I mean, nah, I'm sorry.
- 8:24Speaker 3: I love home, I love knives, you know, I love Beyonce,
- 8:28Speaker 3: but I'm not cut off my toes on my fingers
- 8:30Speaker 3: to see anybody in concle.
- 8:32Speaker 13: He wasn't the one that was going to get his
- 8:34Speaker 13: toes go off. He was gonna cut somebody else's toes
- 8:36Speaker 13: off and that person was gonna pay him.
- 8:38Speaker 5: That's disgusting.
- 8:40Speaker 12: Yeah, and the dude was black too.
- 8:43Speaker 2: That sounds like an episode of a criminal mind.
- 8:45Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's disgusting.
- 8:50Speaker 3: But you have a good one and you need to
- 8:51Speaker 3: do you need to do different searches on your TikTok
- 8:53Speaker 3: and your Instagram. You searching for the wrong thing.
- 8:55Speaker 13: No, man, this was one of a TV show. This
- 8:59Speaker 13: was one of the TV show. Oh it's Florida.
- 9:01Speaker 6: Man.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Oh, now that explains it.
- 9:03Speaker 5: It's Florida. Okay, definitely sounds like Florida.
- 9:07Speaker 3: I have a good one, brother.
- 9:09Speaker 5: It's the Breakfast Club.
- 9:10Speaker 7: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the God.
- 9:19Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
- 9:21Speaker 3: in the village.
- 9:22Speaker 4: That's right, this divine being having a human experience, master,
- 9:26Speaker 4: well being educator whom to keep going.
- 9:29Speaker 6: Oh.
- 9:29Speaker 5: She has many teaching certifications.
- 9:32Speaker 4: She has many teaching certifications including meditation, breath work in
- 9:36Speaker 4: a child, healing, and spiritual psychology. She's an energy healer.
- 9:39Speaker 4: She hosting leads many spiritory treats a year. She teaches
- 9:42Speaker 4: in God's Deli Meditations on the Choper app. She advises
- 9:45Speaker 4: on well being. It teaches mindfulness for several corporations. She's
- 9:48Speaker 4: an author of a book called Crystal Bliss. And she
- 9:50Speaker 4: hosts a podcast on the Black Beck podcast network called
- 9:52Speaker 4: Dropping Gems.
- 9:53Speaker 5: It's My Good Sense.
- 9:55Speaker 3: And she has a four year old that is taller
- 9:56Speaker 3: than Charlamagne.
- 9:57Speaker 12: That is a fact.
- 9:58Speaker 4: Jebbie Brown, So are we talking about? The question is
- 10:05Speaker 4: a big little boy in fact? Yes, welcome, good morning,
- 10:09Speaker 4: good morning.
- 10:10Speaker 7: How are you, Debbie?
- 10:12Speaker 14: I'm incredible. This moment in time is a lot, but
- 10:16Speaker 14: it's also there's magic in it for all of us.
- 10:18Speaker 5: People that say, what are you talking about?
- 10:20Speaker 3: Debbie does monkey pox? There is cold, and we had
- 10:23Speaker 3: a recession interest rate at an all time high, but
- 10:26Speaker 3: you still find the positive out of it.
- 10:28Speaker 14: Life is both the human experience. We're always oscillating between
- 10:32Speaker 14: these two ends of the spectrum, joy and grief. The
- 10:35Speaker 14: viewpoint I have of it, and something I really had
- 10:37Speaker 14: to come into in the pandemic was the moments that
- 10:40Speaker 14: feel like joy. I have to let myself feel all
- 10:45Speaker 14: of it because life is hard.
- 10:47Speaker 15: There are times when people feel guilty too, because they
- 10:50Speaker 15: may be experiencing a lot of positivity, but there's so
- 10:54Speaker 15: much going on around you that you don't feel like
- 10:56Speaker 15: you can even celebrate that.
- 10:58Speaker 14: Yeah, and I think it's important to because that's what
- 11:00Speaker 14: allows us to sustain. The thing we've all gotten so
- 11:03Speaker 14: wrong about the human experience is like everyone thinks that
- 11:06Speaker 14: the goal is always supreme happiness, and that if it's
- 11:09Speaker 14: not that, then those are the periods of your life
- 11:11Speaker 14: you don't really sit with or look at or talk about.
- 11:14Speaker 14: But we need the grief, we need the pain just
- 11:16Speaker 14: as much as we need everything else. So you know,
- 11:20Speaker 14: even in the midst of the moment of time we're
- 11:22Speaker 14: having now where everything is crazy, I wake up every
- 11:25Speaker 14: day and I'm just like, but how can I fuel
- 11:27Speaker 14: my fire? How can I keep that internal oven inside
- 11:30Speaker 14: of me just constantly going for myself, from my life,
- 11:33Speaker 14: from my child.
- 11:35Speaker 4: Can we go back to to like almost the beginning, right,
- 11:37Speaker 4: Because when you think of DeBie deav a lot of
- 11:40Speaker 4: us probably know deVie Dad from radio. I met you
- 11:43Speaker 4: at kDa in La in like seven, and you know
- 11:46Speaker 4: you on Sway Show. But it's like you've always been
- 11:51Speaker 4: this spiritually connected person. When do you like first remember that,
- 11:56Speaker 4: like connection to a high above.
- 11:58Speaker 14: So many things play into that. I think by nature,
- 12:01Speaker 14: I'm an only child raised by a single parent, which
- 12:03Speaker 14: is a certain kind of experience that kind of keeps
- 12:07Speaker 14: you in your.
- 12:07Speaker 6: Head a lot.
- 12:08Speaker 14: So I think that was a piece of it. But
- 12:10Speaker 14: I've always just been fascinated by transformation of any kind,
- 12:15Speaker 14: Like I was definitely reading self help books. As a
- 12:17Speaker 14: little girl, I was just so interested in what made
- 12:21Speaker 14: people themselves but also what kept people from becoming themselves.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Now, one time you decided to give this all up. Right,
- 12:29Speaker 3: you were very successful doing radio. You were in Houston,
- 12:32Speaker 3: they were talking about syndication, you were talking about moving.
- 12:34Speaker 4: Back to la and then you said you were one
- 12:36Speaker 4: of the best radio personality in the country. I mean,
- 12:38Speaker 4: it's still one of the best personalities period, but you
- 12:39Speaker 4: were on the radio as one of the best personalities
- 12:42Speaker 4: in the country.
- 12:42Speaker 3: And then you said I'm done with this. Well what
- 12:46Speaker 3: made you say, you know what, I don't want to
- 12:47Speaker 3: do this anymore.
- 12:48Speaker 5: What was the like you said.
- 12:51Speaker 3: That, why are you clinching yourself like that?
- 12:55Speaker 7: You need to hear this this morning?
- 12:57Speaker 14: You know, it was a couple of things. I think
- 13:00Speaker 14: The amazing thing about the show that y'all do is
- 13:02Speaker 14: you guys have established something so rare and different than
- 13:06Speaker 14: has ever been I think in broadcasting. And you guys
- 13:09Speaker 14: get to show up as your full selves at work.
- 13:10Speaker 14: You get to have the conversations that matter to you.
- 13:14Speaker 14: Where I was when I was doing radio that had
- 13:16Speaker 14: started becoming so closed off. You know, at one point
- 13:20Speaker 14: when I was working in radio, I was able to
- 13:22Speaker 14: have meaningful conversations like I went viral with Kanye, went
- 13:26Speaker 14: viral with Kendrick talking about mental health, and then you know,
- 13:30Speaker 14: the powers that be, they just say talk less. You
- 13:33Speaker 14: know where I used to have a talk break where
- 13:35Speaker 14: I could really connect it like do that in eleven seconds.
- 13:39Speaker 14: I just felt like I wasn't able to use this
- 13:41Speaker 14: gift of communication at the level that God really commanded
- 13:45Speaker 14: of me, at the level that felt fulfilling to me.
- 13:48Speaker 14: I wanted to have more adventure. Like at that point,
- 13:50Speaker 14: I knew spirituality was the leading leading journey amission from
- 13:54Speaker 14: my life, and so I just said, I have to
- 13:57Speaker 14: invest everything about myself into that.
- 14:00Speaker 5: I remember you telling me that, you know, years ago.
- 14:02Speaker 4: He was just like, in a therapy is great, and
- 14:03Speaker 4: I'm glad you're in therapy, but you need more than
- 14:06Speaker 4: just therapy to transform your life, Like what exactly does
- 14:09Speaker 4: that look like?
- 14:10Speaker 14: So even with therapy, there's so many different kinds of therapy,
- 14:14Speaker 14: and I think a lot of people, especially now because
- 14:16Speaker 14: we're just so new to all of this, everyone goes
- 14:19Speaker 14: to cognitive therapy, which is kind of like the standard
- 14:22Speaker 14: talk therapy for some people that is actually not the
- 14:25Speaker 14: best option. Depending on what you are coming to the
- 14:28Speaker 14: table with, you may need somatic therapy, you may need
- 14:31Speaker 14: all these different styles. But the piece about therapy is
- 14:35Speaker 14: it keeps you in your head. It helps you understand
- 14:39Speaker 14: yourself and the things that have happened, and it gives
- 14:41Speaker 14: you the language to talk about it. But it doesn't
- 14:45Speaker 14: always give you the opportunity to live this new knowing.
- 14:50Speaker 14: At that point, it can be really powerful to invite
- 14:53Speaker 14: in like spiritual practice or a self care practice, so
- 14:56Speaker 14: that you are applying acceptance to yourself, applying loving to yourself.
- 15:02Speaker 14: You know, it's one thing to know everything, but to
- 15:04Speaker 14: know everything and still love yourself, To know everything and
- 15:08Speaker 14: come into compassion for the people that have harmed you,
- 15:11Speaker 14: it takes many different processes.
- 15:14Speaker 15: I want to talk about your prime Shewed sessions. Yes, yeah,
- 15:18Speaker 15: Draymond Green on now in particular, so you're talking about
- 15:21Speaker 15: the mental well being and also being able to focus.
- 15:25Speaker 15: Right with Draymond Green, Why in particular do you think
- 15:27Speaker 15: athletes need to focus on something like this and how
- 15:30Speaker 15: do you think it helped them?
- 15:32Speaker 14: What I think is so important about that not just
- 15:34Speaker 14: from the athletic lens, but from the masculinity lens, like,
- 15:38Speaker 14: I think this is really a moment of divine masculinity,
- 15:42Speaker 14: of men's transformative healing, of men's kind of awakening.
- 15:46Speaker 2: How receptive was he to this active like?
- 15:49Speaker 14: So receptive he came in and it was just a
- 15:53Speaker 14: joy and a privilege to work with Draymond because he
- 15:55Speaker 14: is so smart, so self aware already. And he came
- 15:59Speaker 14: in saying and if you watch the show, Deepak asked him,
- 16:02Speaker 14: you know, where are you at on an emotional level
- 16:05Speaker 14: from you know, one to ten? And I think he
- 16:07Speaker 14: said he was a four and then Deepak said, well
- 16:10Speaker 14: then you're suffering. And you know, he came into the
- 16:13Speaker 14: experience like, Okay, how does this work?
- 16:16Speaker 2: Tell me?
- 16:16Speaker 14: X Y and Z. By the later part of our
- 16:19Speaker 14: sessions when we were meeting, he was like, Okay, so
- 16:21Speaker 14: I've read this book. I've read this book. I've read
- 16:22Speaker 14: this book. I understand it like this, and he was
- 16:25Speaker 14: just really ready to feel things that maybe he hadn't
- 16:28Speaker 14: felt before.
- 16:29Speaker 4: Oh, I want to get back to the sessions on Amazon,
- 16:30Speaker 4: but I want to talk about the connection with Deepop
- 16:33Speaker 4: because i'd call you tupac choke, right, and so to
- 16:36Speaker 4: see you and deepok, actually working together now was like
- 16:40Speaker 4: surreal in a lot of ways.
- 16:41Speaker 5: How did that connection happen?
- 16:42Speaker 6: Oh my god.
- 16:43Speaker 14: So it really started where I was burned out. I
- 16:46Speaker 14: was working in radio. Like we talked about, I was
- 16:49Speaker 14: in my twenties and I ended up getting shingles, which
- 16:52Speaker 14: is highly painful for anybody that's had it, but it's
- 16:55Speaker 14: also specifically something you don't get to like your seventies
- 16:58Speaker 14: and your eighties. I had it in my twenties, and
- 17:00Speaker 14: so this was like, you know, ten years ago, and
- 17:05Speaker 14: I went online and I just typed in like detox
- 17:08Speaker 14: help retreat something, and the first thing that popped up
- 17:13Speaker 14: was a photo of Deepak and it was for his
- 17:16Speaker 14: health center. And so I ended up going on a
- 17:18Speaker 14: ten day detox retreat and it changed everything about my life.
- 17:21Speaker 14: And I ended up doing so many of the programs
- 17:24Speaker 14: that Choprah offered, which eventually led me to do their
- 17:27Speaker 14: teacher training program and get certified in meditation. And so
- 17:31Speaker 14: our relationship was really just growing and building, and when
- 17:34Speaker 14: Chopra Global launched about two years ago, I ended up
- 17:38Speaker 14: coming on board as their Chief Impact Officer and meeting
- 17:40Speaker 14: some of their initiatives.
- 17:42Speaker 3: AHI we got more with deVie Brown when we come back,
- 17:44Speaker 3: so it don't ove it's the Breakfast Club.
- 17:46Speaker 7: Good Morning, the Breakfast Club.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamage the guy
- 17:55Speaker 3: we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with
- 17:57Speaker 3: Debbie Brown.
- 18:00Speaker 5: There's other ways to create healthy boundaries.
- 18:02Speaker 14: The first part is you have to become really aware
- 18:05Speaker 14: of yourself and who you are. I think a lot
- 18:07Speaker 14: of this boundary conversation tends to tilt into using boundaries
- 18:12Speaker 14: as more of a wall when I hear people talk
- 18:14Speaker 14: about boundaries, even on social media, I think we have
- 18:17Speaker 14: to really upgrade our understanding of why we don't have
- 18:20Speaker 14: them to begin with. You know, it's like everyone's like, no,
- 18:23Speaker 14: I'm going to have boundaries, and anybody that doesn't have
- 18:25Speaker 14: my boundaries like you're cut out of my life. And
- 18:28Speaker 14: people don't want to respect your boundaries, and there's such
- 18:30Speaker 14: this like harsh judgmental view. And the thing is the
- 18:33Speaker 14: people in our lives that are trying to climb over
- 18:36Speaker 14: them don't understand what they are either, which is why
- 18:39Speaker 14: they don't even apply them to their own selves. So
- 18:42Speaker 14: I think on the journey of finding boundaries, we always
- 18:46Speaker 14: have to try to steep it in overall compassion and
- 18:49Speaker 14: non judgment. A lot of us are doing things for
- 18:52Speaker 14: the very first time. A lot of us have just
- 18:55Speaker 14: heard about boundaries for the very first time. And very often,
- 18:58Speaker 14: if you don't have boundaries already, it's because different things
- 19:01Speaker 14: happened in your life that led you to kind of
- 19:04Speaker 14: disregard yourself in certain ways or not think that you
- 19:07Speaker 14: have the right or the worth to choose yourself.
- 19:10Speaker 4: First, are you born with boundaries and then they get
- 19:13Speaker 4: torn down at some point?
- 19:14Speaker 5: We never have them and we have to learn how
- 19:16Speaker 5: to build them.
- 19:18Speaker 14: One of the reasons that I most often work with
- 19:20Speaker 14: and see in our childhood, certain things have to happen
- 19:24Speaker 14: for us to become the best version of our adult self.
- 19:27Speaker 14: There has to be certain kinds of role modeling in
- 19:29Speaker 14: place of behavior. There has to be role modeling of care,
- 19:34Speaker 14: of understanding, of listening of language. If we have experienced
- 19:38Speaker 14: certain emotional neglect or traumas Big t R. Little Tea,
- 19:42Speaker 14: it affects the way your core identity is established. Your
- 19:46Speaker 14: core identity is established in childhood. That is the peace
- 19:49Speaker 14: of you. That isn't the roles you play, but it's
- 19:51Speaker 14: the piece of you that thinks that you're worthy, that
- 19:54Speaker 14: thinks that you have rights, that knows that your emotional
- 19:59Speaker 14: life matters. If you're not given that opportunity to grow
- 20:02Speaker 14: that in a safe way, you don't know how to
- 20:05Speaker 14: set boundaries because you don't understand yourself your own needs,
- 20:09Speaker 14: You don't understand what you require.
- 20:12Speaker 15: And sometimes things bad happen to you or people burn you,
- 20:15Speaker 15: and then you're like, okay, moving forward.
- 20:17Speaker 2: This is how I have to move.
- 20:18Speaker 14: Absolutely, And I think when that stuff happens in our
- 20:20Speaker 14: adult life, even still, it usually comes down to an
- 20:24Speaker 14: original wound that happened in childhood. There was something in
- 20:27Speaker 14: the dynamic with the child and the caregiver or whatever
- 20:30Speaker 14: adults may have been present, where their needs were not
- 20:34Speaker 14: looked at, and you maybe had to please the person
- 20:36Speaker 14: that was caretaking for you to get what you needed.
- 20:40Speaker 14: And so then in your adult life you find yourself
- 20:42Speaker 14: repeating those patterns in so many different ways, and friendships
- 20:44Speaker 14: and relationships and the jobs that you choose and the
- 20:47Speaker 14: way that you're dynamic with your boss and your coworkers
- 20:50Speaker 14: is like it permeates everything about your life. There is
- 20:54Speaker 14: nothing more important than childhood.
- 20:56Speaker 3: So how do you base your circle there? Because there's
- 20:58Speaker 3: going to be some people that are into the things
- 21:00Speaker 3: that you're into, some people that don't care about it,
- 21:03Speaker 3: some people that don't believe. So how do you keep
- 21:06Speaker 3: your circle? Do you keep those people that are not
- 21:08Speaker 3: in your circle? Or do you set up those boundaries?
- 21:10Speaker 3: But it's like, all right, well, if you're not believed,
- 21:12Speaker 3: I'll wait for you to be a believer to be
- 21:13Speaker 3: in a circle. So but how do you go about
- 21:15Speaker 3: your your normal day.
- 21:16Speaker 14: I don't think people have to be believers, Like, I'm
- 21:19Speaker 14: not looking to convince anyone, and I'm okay if we
- 21:22Speaker 14: are not aligned in our beliefs, but I have to
- 21:27Speaker 14: prioritize what is actually nurturing my own life first. I
- 21:34Speaker 14: would say this, all of us hold on to too
- 21:36Speaker 14: many people for too long. There's not really the room
- 21:39Speaker 14: for that. And so over the last two years, like
- 21:41Speaker 14: I've massively shed in my life, and some of them
- 21:44Speaker 14: were highly intentional, like friendships that were misaligned because of character,
- 21:49Speaker 14: because of integrity, because of choices.
- 21:51Speaker 3: How are those conversations like, so, let's say there is
- 21:54Speaker 3: somebody you're clicking, need to have a conversation, Yeah, because
- 21:56Speaker 3: they're not following the same journey that you're following, you
- 21:59Speaker 3: just don't want them around, honestly, So how do you
- 22:01Speaker 3: have those pusiesses?
- 22:03Speaker 14: So if you're me, you just have them. I'm not
- 22:07Speaker 14: taking other people's misdirected emotions personally, So if someone is
- 22:11Speaker 14: upset in our conversation, that's not going to rock me.
- 22:13Speaker 14: And I'm also not going to take on a lot
- 22:15Speaker 14: of guilt about it. I trust that my choices are
- 22:17Speaker 14: made in integrity. But you know, you have to be direct,
- 22:21Speaker 14: but you also have to know yourself to be direct
- 22:24Speaker 14: in a way that it's actually healing and beneficial, not
- 22:27Speaker 14: you know when people use that term brutally honest or
- 22:30Speaker 14: I keep it real. Real is relative. You're real is
- 22:34Speaker 14: based on your life experience, and it could be completely
- 22:37Speaker 14: fraudulent to someone else based on how they recognize real.
- 22:40Speaker 14: So I think there has to be a certain amount
- 22:43Speaker 14: of self awareness in yourself before you have that conversation,
- 22:46Speaker 14: and it's important to come into a space, if possible,
- 22:50Speaker 14: of more neutrality so that you can walk away from
- 22:54Speaker 14: something with lasting peace.
- 22:55Speaker 3: So as a friend, let's say make the camera guide.
- 22:58Speaker 3: Let's say do you guide him first of what you
- 23:01Speaker 3: think of being a friend, Like, Hey, Nick, I think
- 23:03Speaker 3: that you're doing this too much. I think you need
- 23:05Speaker 3: to fall back and look at this or is it
- 23:06Speaker 3: one of those things like, bro, you're not going in
- 23:08Speaker 3: my direction, I gotta go.
- 23:09Speaker 14: When I started noticing that some friendships felt misaligned or
- 23:13Speaker 14: non reciprocal in the ways that were important to me,
- 23:16Speaker 14: I just made a mental note and I told myself
- 23:18Speaker 14: that I was going to slowly observe it. So you
- 23:21Speaker 14: could do that in a way of saying I'm going
- 23:22Speaker 14: to give somebody three strikes or three chances. But I
- 23:25Speaker 14: just started slowly observing and still interacting with the person.
- 23:29Speaker 14: How the flow of our relationship was, how often did
- 23:32Speaker 14: we talk, Were they able to show up for me?
- 23:35Speaker 14: Was I showing up for them? And I just watched
- 23:38Speaker 14: it over the course of the year. So I started
- 23:40Speaker 14: just observing people from afar, noticing things, keeping mental notes,
- 23:44Speaker 14: and then I really prayed about it. I said prayers,
- 23:47Speaker 14: I set intentions around it. Lead me to the aligned
- 23:50Speaker 14: friendships and partnerships allow me to remove with ease any
- 23:55Speaker 14: friendships or connections that are not serving or misaligned. That
- 24:00Speaker 14: was done, and I started really saying, Okay, yeah, that's
- 24:03Speaker 14: not a fit. I just called people up directly, and
- 24:05Speaker 14: I was like, Hey, I want to talk to you
- 24:06Speaker 14: about our friendship. I want to talk about our relationship.
- 24:09Speaker 14: And I said, I just want to let you know.
- 24:11Speaker 14: I don't have a lot of judgment around you or this,
- 24:14Speaker 14: but I need to share how I'm feeling. I usually
- 24:16Speaker 14: had supporting examples of you know, this experience happened, this
- 24:20Speaker 14: is the way it made me feel. What are your
- 24:22Speaker 14: thoughts on that. Some people in my life said, thank
- 24:27Speaker 14: you so much for telling me this. I felt something
- 24:31Speaker 14: changing between us. I never saw that. I didn't even
- 24:35Speaker 14: notice I was doing that. But you're absolutely right. I'm
- 24:38Speaker 14: sorry we were able to rebuild some people. It's just
- 24:41Speaker 14: like okay, I the show, you know, or f you like, okay,
- 24:47Speaker 14: but da da da da da da da. So I
- 24:49Speaker 14: think walking into setting boundaries, walking into shedding people, you
- 24:52Speaker 14: have to also walk in with a confidence of it's
- 24:55Speaker 14: okay if I lose them, it's okay if they don't understand,
- 24:58Speaker 14: and it's also okay if they blame me. None of
- 25:01Speaker 14: that has anything to do with me.
- 25:03Speaker 5: You know, you know, I thank God for you daily.
- 25:05Speaker 5: I tell you this all the time.
- 25:06Speaker 4: But it's just like our relationship, it's never been a
- 25:08Speaker 4: time we didn't share information. It's never been a time
- 25:11Speaker 4: we didn't have, you know, deep conversation. It's just like
- 25:14Speaker 4: things evolved and went from Yo charlatvie listening to this
- 25:17Speaker 4: nippsey hustle bullets ain't got no name arguing about Kendrick Lamar.
- 25:21Speaker 5: You know what I mean to.
- 25:23Speaker 4: Read deepaktrop or seven spiritual success, Like it just seemed
- 25:26Speaker 4: effortless the whole time.
- 25:28Speaker 5: Yeah, And is that what you should look for?
- 25:30Speaker 14: I guess absolutely, Like and I love us as a
- 25:33Speaker 14: case study of that, because we've been friends for now
- 25:35Speaker 14: like fifteen years, and we've seen each other at so
- 25:39Speaker 14: many junctures of the journey. But what we always had
- 25:42Speaker 14: was non judgment. We always had an openness, We always
- 25:45Speaker 14: had an ability to talk things through. And I think
- 25:48Speaker 14: you don't want to just hold on to people because
- 25:50Speaker 14: of a length of time or this like false sense
- 25:53Speaker 14: of loyalty which no one actually has a real definition
- 25:57Speaker 14: for that word, like changes with everyone. You have to
- 26:00Speaker 14: really look at, like what is kind of doing life
- 26:03Speaker 14: with a friend? Can we go six months without talking
- 26:06Speaker 14: because we're both in a different place and then come
- 26:08Speaker 14: back together. I think we should be allowed to But yeah,
- 26:11Speaker 14: being able to kind of just evolve as equals at
- 26:15Speaker 14: every step is what I look for in friendship. And
- 26:18Speaker 14: I'm also okay with things not having to be that deep.
- 26:21Speaker 14: There's some people in my life. I trust them to
- 26:23Speaker 14: be themselves and I show up as myself and I
- 26:25Speaker 14: give them what they can handle of me.
- 26:28Speaker 7: You don't pray about me every day.
- 26:29Speaker 14: You I was like, what is envy thinking?
- 26:31Speaker 5: Over there? I do thank God for you. You, thank
- 26:33Speaker 5: God for this whole situation. This situation we change our life.
- 26:36Speaker 7: We're openness with deep.
- 26:39Speaker 3: I just want to know why you never told me that.
- 26:41Speaker 7: He don't say it.
- 26:50Speaker 5: Let me see what the blood is. I hear womb talking.
- 26:53Speaker 3: We got more with Debbie Brown when we come back,
- 26:55Speaker 3: So it don't ove. It's the breakfast Club.
- 26:56Speaker 7: Good morning boning everybody.
- 26:59Speaker 3: You seej the Envy Angela Yee Charalamage, the guy we
- 27:03Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with deVie Brown.
- 27:06Speaker 5: Chal.
- 27:07Speaker 4: Now, let's talk about how a person can build a
- 27:09Speaker 4: daily self care like spiritual practice routine just start healing
- 27:14Speaker 4: and changing their life.
- 27:15Speaker 5: How does a person do that?
- 27:16Speaker 14: Oh, this is the most important thing. So you have
- 27:20Speaker 14: to make it sustainable, so that it's actually becomes your
- 27:23Speaker 14: lived experience and not just something you speak but are
- 27:27Speaker 14: not acting or living. And so what you want to
- 27:30Speaker 14: do when you're building a practice, first, identify how much
- 27:33Speaker 14: time you have. I know a lot of people work
- 27:35Speaker 14: really hard and have a lot of responsibilities. So even
- 27:38Speaker 14: if only five minutes is possible, please try to gift
- 27:41Speaker 14: yourself with this. But if you can be more expansive
- 27:43Speaker 14: and spend thirty minutes, spend an hour, that could be
- 27:46Speaker 14: really powerful. What you want to do is you want
- 27:48Speaker 14: to build your daily practice around the four pillars of wholeness,
- 27:52Speaker 14: which is mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual. You want to
- 27:56Speaker 14: find something to do every day that falls in one
- 27:58Speaker 14: of those categories. For mental, that could look like journaling,
- 28:02Speaker 14: that could be wow. I noticed that I keep thinking
- 28:05Speaker 14: about this one thought every day. It helps to build
- 28:08Speaker 14: or re establish your intuition, which is also something that
- 28:11Speaker 14: a lot of people lack because they so often go
- 28:15Speaker 14: against what their gut tells them to do. That's the
- 28:18Speaker 14: mental category. Looking at the emotional category, that could be
- 28:21Speaker 14: meditation every day really coming into a space of knowing
- 28:25Speaker 14: how to be with yourself, how to meet yourself, how
- 28:27Speaker 14: to remember all of who you truly are outside of
- 28:31Speaker 14: the roles that we play in life, outside of the
- 28:33Speaker 14: things that have happened to us. You look at physical
- 28:36Speaker 14: for some that's a workout, but that could also look
- 28:38Speaker 14: like a daily stretch practice, that could look like yoga,
- 28:41Speaker 14: that could look like remembering to massage your own shoulders
- 28:45Speaker 14: at the end of the night because you're aching and
- 28:47Speaker 14: you deserve your own touch. And then if we look
- 28:49Speaker 14: at the spiritual category, that could really look like affirmations
- 28:54Speaker 14: every day speaking life over yourself, and let's take it
- 28:57Speaker 14: a step deeper than some of the ones of like
- 28:59Speaker 14: I am abundant or I am love or I am strong,
- 29:02Speaker 14: really call forward what you want to embody. You know,
- 29:06Speaker 14: one of my first affirmations and my healing journey was
- 29:10Speaker 14: I'm a precious child of God, leading from my heart's center,
- 29:14Speaker 14: working in mastery of my being. Saying that over myself
- 29:18Speaker 14: every day changed me. So doing something every day that
- 29:22Speaker 14: supports who you are and who you're becoming and who
- 29:26Speaker 14: you have become is essential. It also teaches you emotional regulation,
- 29:31Speaker 14: which means that every day you can go into the
- 29:33Speaker 14: world as your true self and not as the version
- 29:35Speaker 14: of you that's constantly reacting to things.
- 29:38Speaker 5: What does self acceptance look like?
- 29:41Speaker 14: Deep surrender and deep trust. To accept yourself means that
- 29:46Speaker 14: you are aware of all that you are, including the
- 29:50Speaker 14: things that may be a little bit unfinished or the
- 29:52Speaker 14: things that you may have judged, but to know that
- 29:54Speaker 14: it all serves purpose. To have acceptance is to also
- 29:58Speaker 14: have this trust that I may not like everything that's
- 30:02Speaker 14: happening right now or that has happened to me, but
- 30:05Speaker 14: I do understand and trust that it is serving a
- 30:08Speaker 14: purpose I don't yet know, and so I am an
- 30:11Speaker 14: acceptance of what currently is doesn't mean you don't want
- 30:15Speaker 14: it to change, doesn't mean it doesn't have the potential
- 30:17Speaker 14: to change.
- 30:18Speaker 4: Is that the first step to beginning to love yourself?
- 30:20Speaker 4: How do you begin to love yourself?
- 30:23Speaker 14: I think they're kind of both happening at the same time,
- 30:25Speaker 14: but I will say, you know, to love yourself, it's
- 30:29Speaker 14: a constantly evolving process. But I think it does require
- 30:32Speaker 14: that daily practice that I talked about. Loving yourself can't
- 30:35Speaker 14: be related to how really you look, how other people
- 30:39Speaker 14: are validating you or not, how they're treating you. It
- 30:42Speaker 14: has to be like I exist, and that's enough, and
- 30:46Speaker 14: that alone is worthy of love.
- 30:48Speaker 4: The action I want to ask is, like, you know,
- 30:49Speaker 4: I know we have a lot of people listening right now.
- 30:51Speaker 4: They might have seen the sessions they you know, probably
- 30:53Speaker 4: listen to dropping gems. I want to do like a
- 30:56Speaker 4: mindfulness minute, Like what's what's a breathing exercise? Is something
- 31:01Speaker 4: that we could do to like just ground people right
- 31:04Speaker 4: now in this moment.
- 31:05Speaker 14: I would love to are you guys all going to
- 31:06Speaker 14: do with me?
- 31:07Speaker 6: Sure? Okay? I want to ask.
- 31:10Speaker 14: Everybody right now listening connecting to the sound in my voice,
- 31:14Speaker 14: come into a relaxed state with your body. And I
- 31:17Speaker 14: want to invite you to gently close your eyes, let
- 31:20Speaker 14: your spine feel straight and support it. Release any tension
- 31:24Speaker 14: that maybe in your shoulders, maybe turn your palms upward
- 31:28Speaker 14: into a state of receiving. Unclench your job there's any
- 31:33Speaker 14: pressure present, and now let yourself just stretch your neck
- 31:36Speaker 14: a little bit from side to side. And now let's
- 31:39Speaker 14: connect to our breath. First, begin to notice how your
- 31:43Speaker 14: natural breath is feeling in your body. And now I
- 31:47Speaker 14: want to invite you to take your right hand and
- 31:51Speaker 14: place it over your chest, right at your heart center.
- 31:54Speaker 14: And now just notice what that pressure of your hand
- 31:57Speaker 14: feels like. Now we're going to begin some deep breathing
- 32:01Speaker 14: through her noses. We're going to do some big inhales
- 32:04Speaker 14: through her nose and then out of our nose, and
- 32:09Speaker 14: we'll do this three times together. And what we're looking
- 32:12Speaker 14: to do is take a big deep inhale, slowly fully,
- 32:18Speaker 14: starting now filling your chest and really stretch, take it
- 32:23Speaker 14: a little more air, and then hold the air at
- 32:26Speaker 14: the top once it's in. And now as we breathe
- 32:30Speaker 14: out of our nose, I want you to do it
- 32:32Speaker 14: slowly and fully, and now we'll begin that breath again
- 32:37Speaker 14: and through your nose, let your chest expand your heart open,
- 32:43Speaker 14: hold it and release. And now begin again.
- 32:50Speaker 6: In through your nose.
- 32:53Speaker 14: And hold it and release that breath, and it'll turn
- 32:59Speaker 14: a right. Now, silently to yourself, I'd like you to repeat,
- 33:05Speaker 14: I am calling forward my highest self, and I want
- 33:09Speaker 14: you to think about something currently present in your life.
- 33:12Speaker 14: It could be perceived as good as challenging, but something
- 33:17Speaker 14: that you've really been chewing on lately, some dynamic maybe
- 33:21Speaker 14: in your life or relationship, or something you're excited about.
- 33:26Speaker 14: And I would just want you to hold that seed
- 33:28Speaker 14: in your mind's eye, and I want you to think
- 33:30Speaker 14: about any nourishing or evolutionary choices or lens of perceptions
- 33:37Speaker 14: that you can shift to around whatever this morsel is
- 33:42Speaker 14: that you're chewing on. Is it about surrendering, is it
- 33:45Speaker 14: about an action step, or is it just an observation
- 33:49Speaker 14: something that can be released. I want you to think
- 33:51Speaker 14: of an intention around it. And maybe it is my
- 33:55Speaker 14: intention is to release this, or my intention is to
- 34:01Speaker 14: really feel all of this, or my intention is to
- 34:05Speaker 14: manifest this and silently within your own hearts to yourselves.
- 34:12Speaker 14: I want you to state that intention my intention is.
- 34:17Speaker 14: And now we're going to do a cleansing lion's breath,
- 34:19Speaker 14: which is going to be deep in hell through your nose,
- 34:23Speaker 14: and then it'll be followed out by signing it out
- 34:26Speaker 14: through your mouth with your tongue out and it'll sound
- 34:29Speaker 14: a little like this. So we'll begin our in hell
- 34:35Speaker 14: now through our noses and release through your mouth, and
- 34:45Speaker 14: now shake out your hand that was on your heart,
- 34:48Speaker 14: allow it to drop back down to the tops of
- 34:50Speaker 14: your thighs, and as you feel ready, gently open your eyes.
- 34:56Speaker 5: How can I want to sleep this night?
- 34:59Speaker 14: And you know that experience that we just did, and
- 35:01Speaker 14: everyone could start and end their day like that it
- 35:05Speaker 14: probably spent maybe a minute there. That is a daily practice.
- 35:10Speaker 14: What we just did that was breathwork. So that's an
- 35:12Speaker 14: experience that you can invite into your life to regulate
- 35:16Speaker 14: your nervousness. Yes, because what was happening internally as we
- 35:19Speaker 14: did that was our body was able to come into
- 35:21Speaker 14: the present moment. If you're under deep stress or you
- 35:25Speaker 14: have had trauma, you don't feel present in your body.
- 35:29Speaker 14: And so to just be able to settle into yourself
- 35:33Speaker 14: and then to give yourself that nourishing breath that resets
- 35:37Speaker 14: your emotional center. It changes what's possible.
- 35:40Speaker 6: The thing about.
- 35:41Speaker 14: Trauma, depression, stress, anxiety, it limits what's possible in your
- 35:46Speaker 14: life because it limits the choices you make and how
- 35:49Speaker 14: you view yourself.
- 35:50Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much, Debbie for to follow you.
- 35:55Speaker 14: Dev hev me on Instagram at Debbie Brown, my website
- 35:58Speaker 14: Debbie Brown and on Amazon on Prime Video watch The Sessions.
- 36:02Speaker 14: It is an incredible, incredible documentary by Religion of Sports, myself,
- 36:07Speaker 14: Deepak Chopra and NBA superstar Draymond Green.
- 36:11Speaker 4: And pick up Debbie Brown's book, Crystal Bliss. Devil was
- 36:14Speaker 4: talking about crystals way before everybody else was that book
- 36:17Speaker 4: dropped in with twenty fourteen. Yeah, and make sure you
- 36:20Speaker 4: subscribed to Debbie's podcast dropping Gyms on the Black Effect
- 36:24Speaker 4: podcast network. It's so many you know, high level conscious
- 36:27Speaker 4: conversations on that podcast, So make sure you subscribed to
- 36:31Speaker 4: that Black Effects.
- 36:32Speaker 7: Well, Breakfast Club, it's Debbie Rapp the Breakfast.
- 36:35Speaker 3: Club Morning Everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess, Hilarious, Charlamage the
- 36:42Speaker 3: guy we are the Breakfast Club Jess. It's on maternity leave,
- 36:45Speaker 3: so Laura LaRosa is filling in and we got a
- 36:47Speaker 3: special guest in the building, the Icon Living. Yes, missus Erica,
- 36:51Speaker 3: welcome back.
- 36:52Speaker 2: Peace, Peace, peace.
- 36:54Speaker 5: How are you feeling?
- 36:54Speaker 6: Exclisit there?
- 36:55Speaker 5: You going off right?
- 36:56Speaker 4: Congratulations on receiving the cf DA Fashion Icon Awards.
- 37:01Speaker 14: Oh, thank you very very much.
- 37:02Speaker 4: I have no idea what that means, but I feel
- 37:04Speaker 4: like you deserve all the awards.
- 37:06Speaker 6: Congratch they say, I found out it's the Oscar of fashion. Really,
- 37:11Speaker 6: so that that award means a lot to people in
- 37:14Speaker 6: the fashion industry and to us as artists as well,
- 37:17Speaker 6: you know, creators who are love as well trying to
- 37:21Speaker 6: you know, evolve our culture, you know, So that means
- 37:24Speaker 6: a lot to be recognized.
- 37:26Speaker 4: It's always fore like you had an effortless style. Do
- 37:28Speaker 4: you really put a lot of thought into how you
- 37:29Speaker 4: how you drive?
- 37:30Speaker 6: Sometimes?
- 37:31Speaker 5: Okay?
- 37:31Speaker 6: You know, sometimes I do, and sometimes it's just grace.
- 37:34Speaker 3: Now, you said that during your speech that this was
- 37:37Speaker 3: an award that you wanted for a long time. Was
- 37:39Speaker 3: that true that long after?
- 37:41Speaker 6: Since? You know, I didn't even know that you could
- 37:43Speaker 6: get an award for that, but just wanted to be
- 37:45Speaker 6: recognized for the canvas that I create when I go out.
- 37:50Speaker 6: It's really important to me. It's my therapy. You know,
- 37:55Speaker 6: I can't leave without half of mine, like I said,
- 37:57Speaker 6: and the speak together, it was just something that came
- 38:01Speaker 6: with my head. You know, it's a nagging thing, and
- 38:04Speaker 6: sometimes when I don't try really hard, it sometimes gracefully
- 38:08Speaker 6: comes together. I guess maybe because of my attention, the
- 38:11Speaker 6: fashion gods gave me the keys out here in these streets.
- 38:14Speaker 9: You talked about your best friend who accompanied you to
- 38:17Speaker 9: the award, and afraid of him introducing you to a
- 38:20Speaker 9: lot of the fashion houses and stuff like that. Were
- 38:22Speaker 9: fashion houses always like open and like rushing to support
- 38:26Speaker 9: you in all of your creative ideas or did you
- 38:28Speaker 9: have to was there a fight, because a lot of
- 38:29Speaker 9: artists talk about it being a fight trying to get
- 38:31Speaker 9: into the couture houses.
- 38:32Speaker 6: You know, I was out since nineteen ninety seven, and
- 38:35Speaker 6: social media was really the opening to a lot of
- 38:38Speaker 6: these relationships because they could now directly get to the
- 38:43Speaker 6: artists where they probably didn't know how to get to
- 38:45Speaker 6: the ones that they wanted to feature before. The first
- 38:48Speaker 6: person that reached out to me was Tom Ford. Tom
- 38:52Speaker 6: Ford wanted to do a perfume at White Petruli, which
- 38:57Speaker 6: was this natural incense labor for years. This was two
- 39:01Speaker 6: thousand and two two. Yeah. So that's Tom Ford and
- 39:07Speaker 6: some Fords from Texas as well. So we kind of
- 39:09Speaker 6: formed of a bond. I guess as I evolved my
- 39:12Speaker 6: style other uh uh houses or artists, cause it's really
- 39:17Speaker 6: the creative director. Yeah, it's the person. He is the
- 39:21Speaker 6: He is the house at the time because his vision
- 39:23Speaker 6: is trusted most. And they started, you know, kind of
- 39:26Speaker 6: paying attention to you know, the good, the guardiness or
- 39:28Speaker 6: the freedness or the hoobo sheetness. It it's been called
- 39:31Speaker 6: all kinds of things. Next words, Roberto Teach sheet m
- 39:35Speaker 6: I mean he was uh the creetive director of J
- 39:38Speaker 6: and she at the time, and that was my first
- 39:41Speaker 6: booll campaign and he let me co style with him
- 39:44Speaker 6: put things together. And I think it just after that
- 39:47Speaker 6: I was kind of, you know, I was on the
- 39:49Speaker 6: radar or for a certain thing. Definitely the page to
- 39:53Speaker 6: go to if you want to know what's.
- 39:54Speaker 9: Next, And how do you pick, Like the other day
- 39:57Speaker 9: at the CFDA Wards, you're in Tom Brown, how do
- 39:59Speaker 9: you pick designers? In which houses now you want to
- 40:01Speaker 9: work with? Because I'm sure they're all banging. You can
- 40:04Speaker 9: do what you want now.
- 40:05Speaker 6: Right And I picked Tom specifically for this event because
- 40:09Speaker 6: he's the chairman of the event, yes, and he's he's
- 40:12Speaker 6: also a very very good friend of life and his
- 40:15Speaker 6: art is just so amazing. So I thought, since I
- 40:18Speaker 6: was being honored, I would also honor him by wearing
- 40:21Speaker 6: one of his pieces. And I chose one from Runway,
- 40:25Speaker 6: a really beautiful architectural shape, real pretty, and I said,
- 40:29Speaker 6: but I need something futuristic ancient to go on top.
- 40:33Speaker 6: And I saw this AI. I think he saw this
- 40:35Speaker 6: post this morning. I'm not sure, but I saw this
- 40:38Speaker 6: AI rendering of this this head piece, and I reached
- 40:43Speaker 6: out to the person and I told him, this is
- 40:45Speaker 6: really beautiful I would love to challenge a designer to
- 40:49Speaker 6: bring this to life in the five D world or
- 40:51Speaker 6: D world. He said, okay.
- 40:53Speaker 14: So I called a.
- 40:54Speaker 6: Friend, Chris Habana, who does a lot of crafting, amazing jeweler,
- 40:59Speaker 6: and he's said yes, And he had three days and
- 41:01Speaker 6: he pulled the team together and they did some three
- 41:03Speaker 6: D printing to try to really, it's amazing, it's amazing.
- 41:09Speaker 5: Do you remember where you were at when you got
- 41:11Speaker 5: the call that you was getting the c FDA.
- 41:13Speaker 6: I was at home and my agency forwarded me the email.
- 41:17Speaker 6: I was like, wow, okay, that's good stuff, that's good.
- 41:20Speaker 5: Did you know what you was going with? Did you
- 41:22Speaker 5: see that vision?
- 41:23Speaker 6: Absolutely not? Okay, absolutely not. This thing was three weeks away.
- 41:28Speaker 6: I know I was gonna wear it tomorrow.
- 41:31Speaker 3: You've done capsules before with people and collaborated. You ever
- 41:34Speaker 3: thought about doing your whole line, like a full clothing
- 41:37Speaker 3: line from America bad from Ruda to Tutor and everything
- 41:40Speaker 3: in between, And.
- 41:41Speaker 6: I have thought about that. I had a chance to
- 41:43Speaker 6: practice that with Marnie and Francesco Riso. We did a
- 41:49Speaker 6: collapse Marnie and Badu last year. A lot of things
- 41:53Speaker 6: happened for me in fashion last year, right, you know
- 41:55Speaker 6: there was the last two years. It was my first
- 41:59Speaker 6: fashion week, so that's when I really started to catch
- 42:04Speaker 6: the bug and I met Francesco because we went to
- 42:07Speaker 6: the met ball together and we drew up some things
- 42:11Speaker 6: and talked about some things and had a capsule line
- 42:14Speaker 6: that came out and these leads are part of it.
- 42:19Speaker 9: The collab was everywhere. It was what yes, everybody was
- 42:23Speaker 9: in y'all collab in Marnie. That was your first fashion week? Yes,
- 42:26Speaker 9: like you attending or like what do you mean by that?
- 42:28Speaker 6: Yeah? It was my first fashion week in twenty twenty three.
- 42:32Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, and that was so during that time. That
- 42:36Speaker 2: collab is No.
- 42:36Speaker 6: Twenty two?
- 42:37Speaker 2: Is that collab? The collab when you got to work
- 42:40Speaker 2: with your daughter of Puma two with Marnie or was it?
- 42:42Speaker 5: Yes?
- 42:43Speaker 2: Okay, yes? And how did that feel?
- 42:45Speaker 9: Because it's like, okay, we see lebron and Bronnie on
- 42:47Speaker 9: the court and their like you know, but like this
- 42:49Speaker 9: is your lane and now your daughter is coming into
- 42:51Speaker 9: it and you all are working with a fashion house.
- 42:53Speaker 2: How did you feel just doing that with her?
- 42:55Speaker 6: Oh? It was surreal. It was a dream, you know,
- 42:59Speaker 6: because of Puma, such an individual person that I didn't
- 43:02Speaker 6: know what direction she wanted to go in, and I
- 43:05Speaker 6: still don't. You know, she's she's twenty, so she's kind
- 43:08Speaker 6: of finding her way. And sometimes when your kid is
- 43:12Speaker 6: an artist, they don't want to follow your shadow. Yeah,
- 43:16Speaker 6: they want to find their own thing. But she was
- 43:19Speaker 6: cool with supporting me and standing beside me, and she
- 43:23Speaker 6: was like, Mom, I don't care. Yes, this is for you.
- 43:25Speaker 3: So would you do your own line? Do you want
- 43:27Speaker 3: to do your line or that's not something that's in
- 43:29Speaker 3: your posture right now?
- 43:30Speaker 6: Absolutely?
- 43:31Speaker 3: Would you have the time for it?
- 43:33Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, I would make time.
- 43:34Speaker 9: I saw online you were doing some interviews just after
- 43:37Speaker 9: their words, and you were in some Jordan's. Yes were
- 43:39Speaker 9: though that was a Jordan Virgil clab. No, okay, it
- 43:44Speaker 9: was because they were saying it was like an unreleased.
- 43:46Speaker 6: It was an unreleased one, but it wasn't Virgil. It
- 43:49Speaker 6: was shoe surging.
- 43:51Speaker 2: Gotch you okay?
- 43:52Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 43:53Speaker 2: People just give you like how do Yeah?
- 43:55Speaker 6: They're doing.
- 43:56Speaker 9: People online was going crazy over the colab. They were
- 43:59Speaker 9: trying to figure out where, like how you even got
- 44:01Speaker 9: the shoes?
- 44:03Speaker 6: Showed up at my door? Yo? I was like yeah, I.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Was like yo, all my fashion block page out.
- 44:12Speaker 6: Yes, shoot, y'all zoomed in on.
- 44:14Speaker 9: I zoomed in because I'm like, I don't even see
- 44:16Speaker 9: any of virgils, Like, you know he has anything he does,
- 44:20Speaker 9: you know it's him.
- 44:20Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't seen none of that.
- 44:21Speaker 5: She's sarved to get busy.
- 44:22Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm not gonna say nothing about it,
- 44:27Speaker 6: nothing but what we will tell y'all another time when
- 44:31Speaker 6: the news come out.
- 44:32Speaker 5: That's right, you feel about that.
- 44:34Speaker 3: We have more with Erica bat do when we come back.
- 44:36Speaker 1: Don't move.
- 44:36Speaker 5: It's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning Burning.
- 44:38Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ env Jess Hilarius, Charlamage the guy. We
- 44:42Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club long A Rosa feeling in for
- 44:44Speaker 3: Jess and was still kicking it with Erica Baddo Charlam.
- 44:47Speaker 4: Now, you've always been an artist that's sensitive about You
- 44:49Speaker 4: told that a long time ago. But you said in
- 44:51Speaker 4: your speech at c fd A that is scary being
- 44:54Speaker 4: an artist in the social media era.
- 44:56Speaker 5: So how is social media made that critique worse?
- 44:59Speaker 6: I guess yeah, it is scary. I mean I've heard
- 45:02Speaker 6: my own kids be afraid to express and share their art.
- 45:06Speaker 6: Eric Abadu, kid is scared to share their art and
- 45:09Speaker 6: express themselves because the audience is so vicious at this point,
- 45:14Speaker 6: and they have such a huge appetite for blood, and
- 45:19Speaker 6: they want people to be disciplined and humbled and punished
- 45:23Speaker 6: for their success. Almost it's what it seems like. So
- 45:27Speaker 6: that's why, you know, a lot of kids are afraid
- 45:30Speaker 6: to share their work or share their art, or feel
- 45:34Speaker 6: like they have to come at it with some kind
- 45:36Speaker 6: of armor on. And that armor doesn't allow for the
- 45:40Speaker 6: art to truly express itself, in my opinion, so it's
- 45:45Speaker 6: a scary time for art. We didn't have to do that.
- 45:48Speaker 6: We didn't have to deal with that. You heard the
- 45:50Speaker 6: few little comments and things, but those weren't strong enough
- 45:54Speaker 6: to penetrate a strong person. But these things are now
- 46:00Speaker 6: because when people come in here in numbers. We've talked
- 46:03Speaker 6: about group thinks so many times. It was a prediction
- 46:06Speaker 6: that I made with the Windows Seed in twenty ten
- 46:11Speaker 6: a group thing would overshadow art, and it is right
- 46:15Speaker 6: now because people can, people can. I think it's very
- 46:19Speaker 6: smart to get at the channels instead of getting at
- 46:22Speaker 6: the the the bloggers and the people. We see artists
- 46:26Speaker 6: penalizing the channels themselves, and I think that's the smart thing,
- 46:30Speaker 6: because that's what has to change. If that doesn't, if
- 46:33Speaker 6: there's no place to do that then and it won't
- 46:36Speaker 6: be done.
- 46:36Speaker 5: I agree.
- 46:37Speaker 3: Does that make you hesitant to release music?
- 46:39Speaker 6: No, not me.
- 46:40Speaker 5: You haven't dropped in fourteen years.
- 46:42Speaker 6: Fourteen years, it's been some time.
- 46:45Speaker 2: Fifteen I can make you put your phone down.
- 46:49Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty fifteen, let's take okay, the ten years.
- 46:55Speaker 16: But the album, well, well, one reason I don't have
- 47:00Speaker 16: to is because I am a performance artist and I've
- 47:05Speaker 16: been doing that constantly for the last thirty years, eight
- 47:09Speaker 16: years out, eight months out.
- 47:11Speaker 6: Of the year, all year round, I do. So that's
- 47:14Speaker 6: what I love to do. Only put out albums when
- 47:17Speaker 6: I have something to say, like you have something, yeah,
- 47:20Speaker 6: something pressing to say or push out. But I have
- 47:25Speaker 6: more than enough space to get my art out on stage,
- 47:29Speaker 6: so it's not totally necessary to put out album For me.
- 47:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I would just love to see the like the
- 47:35Speaker 4: Division of God has shown you, because like, if you
- 47:37Speaker 4: look at your catalog right your catalog literally has predicted
- 47:41Speaker 4: where we are now. So I can only imagine the
- 47:43Speaker 4: stuff you're creating right now. How far into the future
- 47:46Speaker 4: you seeing things?
- 47:49Speaker 6: Me too, I mean, I'm writing right now. I got
- 47:51Speaker 6: a project coming.
- 47:52Speaker 5: Out soon, a full album.
- 47:54Speaker 6: Yeah wow, but I can't tell y'all about it. How
- 48:00Speaker 6: soon to be, Biden?
- 48:02Speaker 5: I just got got goosebump? So how soon?
- 48:05Speaker 6: It's gonna be soon?
- 48:06Speaker 3: Soon, like by the end of the year soon or
- 48:08Speaker 3: next year soon.
- 48:09Speaker 6: See, it's an important one. It's a collab album.
- 48:13Speaker 5: Oh you're another artist.
- 48:15Speaker 3: You're not gonna say, who are you?
- 48:17Speaker 2: You can hundred three thousand a rap again?
- 48:18Speaker 6: He's a guy that's okay, So yeah, wow, do I
- 48:22Speaker 6: think you're a rap again?
- 48:23Speaker 9: I'll say, is this gonna be the collab album that
- 48:24Speaker 9: gets in the rap again? And also you can answer
- 48:26Speaker 9: do you think he'll rap again?
- 48:27Speaker 6: And and why would you say is this gonna be
- 48:30Speaker 6: the collab album? Because you're assuming that it's him. Yeah,
- 48:34Speaker 6: I'm asking you can assume whatever you want. But I
- 48:38Speaker 6: don't know. I don't know. I don't think he has to.
- 48:41Speaker 6: He's speaking with that instrument. It's the same thing. It missed,
- 48:46Speaker 6: the same kind of thing. Yeah. The way he make
- 48:48Speaker 6: us feeling with bombs over back Dad is the way
- 48:52Speaker 6: he makes people who are ready for that feel. It's
- 48:55Speaker 6: the same thing. It's his energy, it's his air. When
- 48:58Speaker 6: I feel it. That's the rap to me. He wrapping
- 49:02Speaker 6: to me, that's true.
- 49:04Speaker 4: I can see what y'all are twin flames too. Because
- 49:06Speaker 4: he was on stage and it was one part of
- 49:08Speaker 4: the show. He just started going making all kinds of
- 49:12Speaker 4: noises and the crowd was answering him back, and then
- 49:14Speaker 4: he goes, I wasn't saying, he.
- 49:17Speaker 9: Presented you with your c FDA fashion that kind of word. Yeah,
- 49:21Speaker 9: on the way that, like, I know you, you reached
- 49:23Speaker 9: out to him to have him present to you, and
- 49:26Speaker 9: you guys had a conversation.
- 49:26Speaker 6: He was saying, I did.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Well.
- 49:29Speaker 6: It was a kind of tricky thing. I actually reached
- 49:31Speaker 6: out to Tianna Taylor because I think she's next. Wow, Yeah,
- 49:37Speaker 6: I think she's I think she has a really good
- 49:40Speaker 6: grasp for on art, in fashion, functional art. I'm really
- 49:45Speaker 6: impressed and inspired by. But I asked her. I'd asked
- 49:48Speaker 6: andre before but he didn't respond, And then they came
- 49:54Speaker 6: back and totally after I asked Tianna that Andreas said yes,
- 50:00Speaker 6: and I had to figure out how to you know,
- 50:02Speaker 6: maneuver that. Yeah, you know, because that meant a lot
- 50:05Speaker 6: to her. Oh yes, I want to tell her I
- 50:07Speaker 6: love you so very much, and I'm so happy that
- 50:09Speaker 6: we're a friends, and I hope that that did not
- 50:12Speaker 6: bring a wedge between us in any way. But that's
- 50:14Speaker 6: hundred eighty thousand girl and your best friend.
- 50:17Speaker 5: You got to talk to people. You gotta talk through
- 50:18Speaker 5: people to get to him. No, oh, you just said
- 50:20Speaker 5: they came my sister Okay told me that he was
- 50:23Speaker 5: found you.
- 50:24Speaker 6: No, No, well sometimes, yeah, it depends you know how
- 50:28Speaker 6: busy he is. Yeah, I'll follow proper protocol.
- 50:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, artist, when did you realize that you
- 50:37Speaker 3: didn't get You said, You're gonna do what you want
- 50:38Speaker 3: to do. You're gonna put out what you want to
- 50:40Speaker 3: put out. You don't necessarily have to fit in the
- 50:43Speaker 3: box of every artist. You don't have to follow the
- 50:45Speaker 3: platform and say this is it, take a leave it.
- 50:47Speaker 3: When did you get to that.
- 50:48Speaker 6: Point in the contract negotiation in nineteen ninety seven, ninety five?
- 50:56Speaker 6: Oh no, I mean I didn't have to do it,
- 50:59Speaker 6: you know, and they didn't have to you know. I
- 51:01Speaker 6: figured it was a partnership and I was doing the
- 51:03Speaker 6: record label of Favor. I knew who I was, I
- 51:06Speaker 6: knew what I was getting ready to do. I had
- 51:07Speaker 6: a mission and nothing was going to infiltrate it, not
- 51:10Speaker 6: even my own fearing doubts. And I'm still on mission.
- 51:14Speaker 6: Best work is still in me and I have not
- 51:16Speaker 6: accomplished whatever that is yet, because there's still this feeling
- 51:20Speaker 6: of use and greenness and gross.
- 51:22Speaker 3: When you look at other artists without saying names, do
- 51:25Speaker 3: you see it in them like they're selling themselves out?
- 51:28Speaker 3: I know they're different. What made me think about it is,
- 51:30Speaker 3: you know, when j Cole jumped into that beef, he
- 51:33Speaker 3: came back and said this is not for me. People
- 51:37Speaker 3: isshed on them and said this, that and the other.
- 51:38Speaker 3: But that was his assignment and you can't be mad
- 51:40Speaker 3: as assignment, and even me as a fan, was kind
- 51:42Speaker 3: of like he was on a mission.
- 51:45Speaker 5: He realized.
- 51:46Speaker 6: I understand that sometimes I believe that, you know, being
- 51:49Speaker 6: on mission or your assignment is not always to do
- 51:52Speaker 6: something heavenly and great and good. Sometimes it's to create
- 51:55Speaker 6: some chaos so that you may shake things up. Fertilizer
- 51:59Speaker 6: is put into a pot to disturb the roots. It's
- 52:02Speaker 6: poisoning them so they have to move. You can't really
- 52:05Speaker 6: judge it. You don't know what somebody's mission in because
- 52:08Speaker 6: it all counts.
- 52:09Speaker 5: It's all matter, and you don't know what journey God
- 52:12Speaker 5: got them more.
- 52:12Speaker 6: That's right.
- 52:13Speaker 5: You don't get Macha Max without Malcolm Little, that's right.
- 52:16Speaker 6: You don't get Ericabaudu without trying to take it.
- 52:21Speaker 2: Street name.
- 52:23Speaker 6: You don't get Eric Abadu without butchery knife Batty there.
- 52:27Speaker 6: That's my new Monica.
- 52:28Speaker 3: Everybody, we got more with Erica bad Doo. When we
- 52:31Speaker 3: come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning to everybody.
- 52:33Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking with Ericka
- 52:36Speaker 3: Baddo Lauren.
- 52:38Speaker 9: Were their points like bag Lady, I was saying earlier
- 52:41Speaker 9: in the room that I remember when bag Lady for
- 52:44Speaker 9: me started hitting differently and I was listening to it.
- 52:46Speaker 2: And it was like, ooh, I get it now.
- 52:49Speaker 9: When I was younger, I was just listening to it
- 52:51Speaker 9: because it was played in my house and I loved
- 52:52Speaker 9: the song. But I literally remember that feeling for you.
- 52:55Speaker 9: Were there points in your life where you had to
- 52:57Speaker 9: be like, oh I get it, like I feel it lady,
- 53:00Speaker 9: or like was this song of service for someone else?
- 53:02Speaker 6: You mean feeling my own song?
- 53:04Speaker 9: You're you're feeling your just Even before Bad Lady was created,
- 53:07Speaker 9: maybe there was a time in your life that you know,
- 53:10Speaker 9: created or inspired the song. When did you get out
- 53:13Speaker 9: of the bad Lady phase? And what did that feel
- 53:15Speaker 9: like for you?
- 53:15Speaker 5: She has a lot of baggage.
- 53:17Speaker 3: Men have told Lauren that she needs the healing. A
- 53:21Speaker 3: couple of men did that to Lauren. They said, I'll
- 53:24Speaker 3: spend the block what you need to heal.
- 53:26Speaker 5: You need to work on yourself.
- 53:28Speaker 6: So what y'all think about the two guys instead of that?
- 53:30Speaker 5: Be right? I think they're right on a journey.
- 53:34Speaker 6: She's on a journey. And the two men that you respect,
- 53:37Speaker 6: one of them are respect told you that you need
- 53:40Speaker 6: to work on yourself. Yes, as an insult or as
- 53:44Speaker 6: encouragement in love.
- 53:45Speaker 9: The second one, I think it was an insult and
- 53:47Speaker 9: deflecting the first.
- 53:49Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 53:49Speaker 9: The first one, I think it was like he really cares,
- 53:52Speaker 9: Like that's why when he said it, I was like, Okay,
- 53:53Speaker 9: I hear you. I'm in a point in my life
- 53:55Speaker 9: now where I can do the accountability.
- 53:56Speaker 6: But does he need to work on himself as well?
- 53:58Speaker 2: Yes he does?
- 54:00Speaker 6: Does he know? Yes?
- 54:01Speaker 2: He does?
- 54:02Speaker 6: Okay?
- 54:02Speaker 7: Cool?
- 54:02Speaker 2: Second one really know, like it's.
- 54:04Speaker 6: You really know he got to work on hisself.
- 54:06Speaker 2: I don't even want nothing to do with that, Like
- 54:08Speaker 2: it's bad.
- 54:08Speaker 9: But I asked that because I just feel like as
- 54:11Speaker 9: I got older and realized how much you do care,
- 54:13Speaker 9: especially emotionally, sometimes yeah, it weighs into other things and
- 54:17Speaker 9: it closes doors, or it cuts off relationships, or you
- 54:19Speaker 9: just miss out on good things. And every time I
- 54:21Speaker 9: listen to that song, I'm like, man, how did she
- 54:24Speaker 9: know that people was going to need this?
- 54:25Speaker 14: You know?
- 54:26Speaker 6: I was writing what I felt, you know, in my heart,
- 54:28Speaker 6: and I did hear it later and I talking to myself,
- 54:33Speaker 6: my future self.
- 54:34Speaker 9: Where were you at that time of your life when
- 54:36Speaker 9: you were talking to your future self? Like, what was
- 54:37Speaker 9: the transition you were trying to make?
- 54:38Speaker 6: I think I was transitioning out of a relationship where
- 54:42Speaker 6: I was not happy about it, yeah, and realizing that
- 54:47Speaker 6: I had to leave some things behind, some parts of
- 54:49Speaker 6: me behind. So it felt like a funeral or sort
- 54:52Speaker 6: because you have a party, you have to die every
- 54:55Speaker 6: time you evolve, You got to leave it back there.
- 54:57Speaker 6: You want it because it's familiar, and a lot of
- 55:01Speaker 6: times we like to resort to the familiar, even if
- 55:03Speaker 6: it talks. So you have to lead at courts that
- 55:07Speaker 6: beautiful old you that's to be left, and you have
- 55:10Speaker 6: to walk forward and I look back. That's the hardest part,
- 55:13Speaker 6: not leaving the people, but it's leaving your always and you.
- 55:17Speaker 4: You're also playing Lucille in the Netflix movie The Piano Lesson.
- 55:23Speaker 5: Were you a fan of the play.
- 55:24Speaker 6: Absolutely. I went to HBC Gramley State University. I was
- 55:28Speaker 6: a theater major. I was a lesbian. So we did
- 55:31Speaker 6: a lot of August working material Lomaine Hansbury and a
- 55:35Speaker 6: myriad of black artists playwrights. But we did do that
- 55:40Speaker 6: play as well. And Lucille's part is very tiny, you know.
- 55:45Speaker 6: But the most important role I played was composing music
- 55:49Speaker 6: for the movie. Malcolm Washington, who is Denzel's son, is directing,
- 55:59Speaker 6: and he called me and asked if I were put
- 56:01Speaker 6: together some music for it. And I called my very
- 56:04Speaker 6: good friend Daniel Jones got risting, so safe journey. Daniel Jones.
- 56:08Speaker 6: He came and put some beautiful pieces together nineteen thirties
- 56:13Speaker 6: and I wrote, uh, lyrics over them, wow, And they're
- 56:16Speaker 6: use they're used in the movie The Piano Lesson, I
- 56:20Speaker 6: mean on Netflix.
- 56:21Speaker 4: Then they he's producing The Piano Lesson, right, Yes, was
- 56:25Speaker 4: he involved lately?
- 56:26Speaker 6: He he was around, but he he stepped back and
- 56:29Speaker 6: let his children work.
- 56:32Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you learn from your children now now
- 56:34Speaker 5: that they're grown?
- 56:35Speaker 6: Oh, so many things. Like I told you guys, there
- 56:38Speaker 6: are definitely improvements on my design. Puma is at a
- 56:40Speaker 6: place now at twenty that I was thirty before I
- 56:45Speaker 6: was at her level of understanding and emotional intelligence and
- 56:50Speaker 6: compassion for people, integrity, discipline. Yeah, I was still a
- 56:55Speaker 6: child kind of twenty. I learned a lot from them,
- 56:58Speaker 6: and they aren't very judgmental, you know, so they just
- 57:02Speaker 6: kind of go along with whatever I do. We never
- 57:05Speaker 6: had rules. It was just do what I say, and
- 57:07Speaker 6: they did that, watched me. You know, I never hid
- 57:10Speaker 6: anything from them. Yeah, they're they're turning. They're having their
- 57:12Speaker 6: turn at showing me and teaching me patience and severity. Mama,
- 57:17Speaker 6: you gotta say what you feel, feel what you say.
- 57:19Speaker 6: That's mars. That that's the electronic, a little good mars. Yeah,
- 57:26Speaker 6: they will, they'll tell me it will only be so
- 57:29Speaker 6: kind now. And our first favorite saying is a couplistic saying.
- 57:34Speaker 6: Severity without mercy is cruelty. Mercy without severity is weakness.
- 57:42Speaker 6: So we try to walk that line. You know, Kindness
- 57:46Speaker 6: isn't all it being you know, appearing nice kindness is
- 57:50Speaker 6: all also telling somebody to beat it right kind to yourself.
- 57:55Speaker 3: You know, I've seen the Behi behive chased you a
- 57:57Speaker 3: little bit for a little bit.
- 57:58Speaker 6: Where's the behind now?
- 58:00Speaker 2: On Twitter?
- 58:03Speaker 6: I ain't seen to be honest a long time, and
- 58:07Speaker 6: I love feest. They don't know I like it. I
- 58:11Speaker 6: love it, and I total him. Were in them lately though,
- 58:20Speaker 6: they're gonna tell me tomorrow see him tomorrow.
- 58:25Speaker 5: I like the tweet when you said, Jay, you're gonna
- 58:27Speaker 5: let this woman needs be say something. Jay, You're gonna
- 58:30Speaker 5: let this woman need be.
- 58:34Speaker 6: I don't know why people think take things so serious.
- 58:37Speaker 6: It's just my sense of humor. I love Jay.
- 58:40Speaker 9: Well you saw the cover though, knowing that there is
- 58:42Speaker 9: the inspiration, Like does do those inspiration moments? Are you
- 58:45Speaker 9: feeling like, oh my god, they saw what I was
- 58:47Speaker 9: trying to do, they love it, they still doing it?
- 58:49Speaker 2: Or do you feel like, oh that was mine? Like,
- 58:51Speaker 2: don't bite.
- 58:53Speaker 6: I have to be very careful with this because my
- 58:56Speaker 6: children are watching me and that generation why chain and
- 59:02Speaker 6: as much as we love our art, it doesn't belong
- 59:06Speaker 6: to us once it goes out in the world. However,
- 59:09Speaker 6: though you can't manage what people are going to do
- 59:13Speaker 6: with the art. You can't manage whether they're going to
- 59:16Speaker 6: duplicate it or do another interpretation of it, or just
- 59:19Speaker 6: enjoy it or use it as an inspiration. You can't
- 59:22Speaker 6: manage that. But you don't have to remain silent about it.
- 59:26Speaker 5: You can.
- 59:26Speaker 6: If it makes you feel a way, you should say
- 59:28Speaker 6: something about it.
- 59:29Speaker 4: My last question, I feel like everything you do is
- 59:30Speaker 4: spirit all. Like I said earlier, is it even possible
- 59:33Speaker 4: for you to do any type of art without divine
- 59:36Speaker 4: energy being involved?
- 59:37Speaker 6: I don't think so, even if I'm not aware of it,
- 59:40Speaker 6: it's always involved. Yeah, something I know what it is.
- 59:44Speaker 6: It's something we floating on that's giving us like choice
- 59:50Speaker 6: of some sort. Yeah, you know, we're born, we're told
- 59:56Speaker 6: you know was forborn. You know, our religion was here already.
- 1:00:00Speaker 6: What we're supposed to believe in the tribe, the ways,
- 1:00:03Speaker 6: the haunting ways, what we worship, how we worship, how
- 1:00:08Speaker 6: we learn, how we cook, how we dressed. There's a
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: tribe and you learn that. Hopefully you go outside of
- 1:00:15Speaker 6: that once you are of age to explore other things,
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: because you want to see if that is true. And
- 1:00:23Speaker 6: then now you're an individual human which creator in spirit,
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: and then you have to learn how to go to
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: walk in that humanness, in that spiritualness.
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: And also you can check out do worldmarket dot com
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: if you want to get all types of things.
- 1:00:40Speaker 14: Like the I know I've been waiting even we don't
- 1:00:47Speaker 14: realize how big the fan base is.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: The reach is, Oh, this is the figure that you've created.
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the problem.
- 1:00:56Speaker 6: This is the called tyrone video, so that we I
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: actually reached out to Funko to do this because I
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: thought it was important for my kids to have these.
- 1:01:07Speaker 6: They love funkos.
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: That's dope.
- 1:01:09Speaker 6: And I surprised them one day and said, I have
- 1:01:12Speaker 6: a Funko that's so dope like your own funk o.
- 1:01:15Speaker 6: You yeah, yeah, well.
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: You it's beautiful. That's dope. Well, thank you again for
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: joining us. We always appreciate you.
- 1:01:24Speaker 6: I appreciate you all always.
- 1:01:26Speaker 5: Poor me Erica, it's the breakfast club. Good morning, thank you.
- 1:01:30Speaker 6: Good morning.
- 1:01:30Speaker 4: I say something you may not agree with doesn't mean
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: I'm mean, who's getting that donk that donkey that don't
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: don't don't don't dunk?
- 1:01:36Speaker 7: The other day?
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: Right here to the breakfast club, bitch, you call me
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: the donkey of the day, but I mean no harm.
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: Don't here today goes to a Baltimore man by the
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: name of Kevin Gross. Kevin is forty six years old,
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: just like I am. But I clearly make better choices
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: than Kevin. You know how sometimes people say, oh, you
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: think you better than me? The answer is, yes, yes,
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: I do, because I make better choices. Not judging you
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: for anything you got going on. But you asked me
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: a question, Oh you think you better than me? Yes, hell, yes,
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: because I understand the strongest principle of growth lies in
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: human choice, and I make better choices than you. And
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: if you are currently enjoying this thing called freedom, well
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: you make better choices than Kevin as well, because he's
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: in jail, currently facing charges for allegedly shooting a twenty
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: eight year old co worker on the side of I
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: ninety five this past Monday morning. I know some of
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: y'all right now are either at or on the way
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: to jobs where.
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: You think you can't stand your coworker.
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: You believe you hate this co worker with all your heart,
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: and you just might, okay, just be better than Kevin.
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: And the way you continue to be better than Kevin
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: is simply by making the choice not to shoot your coworker.
- 1:02:45Speaker 5: Let's go to WBALTV for the report.
- 1:02:46Speaker 17: Polease bond denied for forty six year old Kevin Gross.
- 1:02:50Speaker 17: He's facing charges for allegedly shooting a twenty eight year
- 1:02:53Speaker 17: old coworker on the side of I ninety five early
- 1:02:56Speaker 17: Monday morning. According to charging documents, the victim called nine
- 1:03:00Speaker 17: to one one. When state police arrived, they found him
- 1:03:03Speaker 17: walking along the shoulder of ninety five with seven gunshot
- 1:03:07Speaker 17: wounds to the arm and torso. Court documents show he
- 1:03:11Speaker 17: told police he was on his way into work and
- 1:03:13Speaker 17: got a flat tire, so he pulled over on the
- 1:03:15Speaker 17: shoulder of ninety five, just north of the Howard County line.
- 1:03:19Speaker 17: When he got out to inspect the tire, his coworker,
- 1:03:21Speaker 17: Kevin Gross, pulled up behind him and got out, wearing
- 1:03:24Speaker 17: a mask covering his mouth.
- 1:03:26Speaker 9: Quote.
- 1:03:27Speaker 17: Gross told him he must have hit a pothole or something,
- 1:03:29Speaker 17: but upon inspecting the tire, the victim could see the
- 1:03:32Speaker 17: tire had been slashed. Gross then produced a firearm and
- 1:03:36Speaker 17: began firing numerous shots end quote. Charging documents reveal that
- 1:03:40Speaker 17: two were assistant managers that planted aid in Elkridge. Gross
- 1:03:44Speaker 17: had recently been demoted, and the victim told police Gross
- 1:03:47Speaker 17: thought he had something to do with that demotion.
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: Kevin, you got to write last name because this was gross.
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: What a diabolical plan. The victim was on his way
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: to work and got a flat tire. He thought he
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: hit a pothole. His tire had been slashed. Oh, I
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: wanted who slashed him? And then when he got out
- 1:04:03Speaker 4: there inspect the tire, Kevin pulled up behind him with
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: a mask and shot him several times, all because he
- 1:04:07Speaker 4: thought his coworker got him demoted. Both of them were
- 1:04:10Speaker 4: assistant managers at Planet AID. Now y'all know what plan
- 1:04:12Speaker 4: today is right now?
- 1:04:14Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: They had organizations that collect the clothing donations. They got
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: the yellow bins all over the place you can put
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: the clothes and shoes in.
- 1:04:21Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: Yeah, they accept clothing donations in seventeen hundred locations. Okay,
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: in the Elkridge warehouse. You know where Elkridge is, right, yep.
- 1:04:28Speaker 4: They collect fifteen point five million pounds of used clothes
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: and shoes annually. Well, clearly Kevin wasn't there for the car,
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: so I needed to know what are the perks of being.
- 1:04:37Speaker 5: An assistant manager at Planet eight.
- 1:04:40Speaker 4: So I asked chat GPT, how much does an assistant
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: manager at Planet aid make? I don't know if this
- 1:04:44Speaker 4: is one hundred percent correct, but it says the average
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: salary for a manager at Planet aid might earn between
- 1:04:48Speaker 4: fifty thousand and sixty thousand annually. Now I need y'all
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: to always keep in mind that my education is limited
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: to a high school degree from night school. Okay, dropping
- 1:04:56Speaker 4: the clues boumb for Berkeley High School rather than Monks Conta,
- 1:04:59Speaker 4: South Carolina. But if it's one thing I understand is
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: prison math. And by prison math, I mean when you
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: have to calculate in your mind whether or not the
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: choice you make is gonna be worth you going to prison. Okay,
- 1:05:10Speaker 4: now let's do the prison math.
- 1:05:11Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:05:11Speaker 4: I'm making fifty sixty grand a year and Baltimore as
- 1:05:14Speaker 4: a forty six year old man.
- 1:05:15Speaker 5: I don't know about y'all.
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: But if I can afford to put some food on
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: my table and have a roof over my head, I'm
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: gonna be happy.
- 1:05:21Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: Success is subjective, and if you're a freeman forty six
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: years old, you can come and go as you please.
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: You got a job you maintaining. That's a good life.
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: If you don't think it's a good life, go to
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: a prison right now and talk to these brothers doing fifteen,
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: doing twenty, doing twenty five, some of them doing forever,
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: and ask them when they trade lives with the freeman
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: making fifty to sixty grand as an assistant manager at
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: Planet eight.
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: Hell, even if he got demoted, okay, even if he
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: got demoted, The.
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: Warehouse lead role at Planet eight earns about twenty seven
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: thirty nine per hour. According to chat GPT, that's almost
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: fifty seven grand a year if you working forty hours
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: a week. All I'm saying is, no matter how much
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: I can calculate this prison math.
- 1:06:02Speaker 5: Okay, I've done addition, subtraction, multiplication, division. I tried to
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: figure this out multiple ways, and guess what, it just
- 1:06:09Speaker 5: don't compute.
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: Okay, it just nothing add up. The victim is in
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: critical condition. He got seven times, he got shot seven times.
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: Kevin Gross is charged with attempted first degree murder in Maryland.
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: That's life in prison, first and second degree assault. Kevin
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: Gross is also charged with first degree as sold, it's
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: twenty five years in Maryland. Second degree is sold it's
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: ten years in Maryland and he got other related charges.
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: Moral of the story is Kevin is spending the rest
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: of his natural born life in prison. Therefore, the prison
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: math ain't adding up. It's just not worth it. You
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: have to calculate it in your head. You got demoted.
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: You don't even know if this.
- 1:06:45Speaker 5: Person you shot had anything to do with.
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: It, But even if they did, as soon as you
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: started formulating this plan in your head, just think about it.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut his tires, I'm gonna shoot him a
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: bunch of times. At some point your brain has to
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: say no, no, no, no, no, this prison math ain't mathing.
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: This is not a situation that's worth having to eat
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: jail food for the rest of your life or having
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: an inmate treat your bunkie.
- 1:07:08Speaker 5: Like a ball of cereal. So please let remy ma
- 1:07:12Speaker 5: give Kevin Gross the biggest he hall hee ha he ha.
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: You stupid mother?
- 1:07:18Speaker 5: Are you dumb? You got demoted?
- 1:07:20Speaker 6: Take the l How do you get demoted from like
- 1:07:23Speaker 6: a Salvation army?
- 1:07:24Speaker 5: Please? That's a good will?
- 1:07:26Speaker 6: Please?
- 1:07:27Speaker 5: And what could you do wrong?
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:07:30Speaker 5: But he didn't even ask no questions. He just assumed it.
- 1:07:32Speaker 5: Was this other this other person and shot him seven times.
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: Now he's gonna spend the rest of his life in
- 1:07:37Speaker 5: prison for that. They don't need to play and you also,
- 1:07:43Speaker 5: I mean we can if you want to what you
- 1:07:46Speaker 5: want to play a game? He's from Baltimore, the white
- 1:07:51Speaker 5: people in Baltimore.
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: In Baltimore.
- 1:07:55Speaker 9: No, but something that patty like that, like like you
- 1:07:59Speaker 9: got a point got a point clothing store. Then it's
- 1:08:02Speaker 9: not even like in a like a regular clothing store
- 1:08:05Speaker 9: plan b Yeah, like nah.
- 1:08:08Speaker 5: Always do prison math though, whenever you're about.
- 1:08:10Speaker 4: To make a choice that you think we're gonna get
- 1:08:12Speaker 4: you in some type of trouble, especially if it's involving
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: any type of crime, just just calculated in your head.
- 1:08:18Speaker 4: Is this worth the time you're gonna get? What's that situation?
- 1:08:22Speaker 5: That's it? All right?
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: Well, thank you for that donkey.
- 1:08:25Speaker 7: Today the breakfast club.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: Warning everybody at CJ n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagna Dad,
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: we are to breakfast club. Yes, it's on maternity leave,
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: so long on the roast is filling in and we
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: got a special guest in the building. We have passed
- 1:08:39Speaker 3: the stepfan Eki oh before I.
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: Feel good, you got a new book out and not
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: a power of your dreams. Yeah, I love a good
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: dream book. I'm the type of person that I keep
- 1:08:48Speaker 4: dream books by my bedside. When I wake up, I
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: can look and see what certain things mean. Is that
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: what got you into wanting to write this book?
- 1:08:56Speaker 9: No, So, I encountered God when I was nine years old,
- 1:08:59Speaker 9: and one of the ways that was so consistent was
- 1:09:02Speaker 9: that he would speak to me through dreams. And it's
- 1:09:05Speaker 9: interesting where you talk about, you know, using like having
- 1:09:08Speaker 9: books that tell you about symbols and things like that,
- 1:09:10Speaker 9: because I think one of the reasons why maybe sometimes
- 1:09:13Speaker 9: people don't even understand the fullness of their dream is
- 1:09:15Speaker 9: because they pick it apart, and the whole dream is
- 1:09:19Speaker 9: telling a message. If you only pick it apart, you
- 1:09:22Speaker 9: may not understand the fullness of it. But dreams have
- 1:09:25Speaker 9: been so consistent for me ever since nine years old.
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: That is a great point, because I never look at
- 1:09:30Speaker 4: the whole totality of my dream. I find like one
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: thing that stood out.
- 1:09:34Speaker 9: It's like a WebMD of dreams where people like get
- 1:09:36Speaker 9: books or go on Google and you're like, you only
- 1:09:39Speaker 9: look at one thing. And that's one of the things
- 1:09:41Speaker 9: I talk about in the book where you have to
- 1:09:43Speaker 9: look at it like a whole story and to understanding
- 1:09:46Speaker 9: each symbol kind of like tell what is the dreams
- 1:09:49Speaker 9: really saying?
- 1:09:50Speaker 3: Like you said you had an accounter with God at
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: the age of nine, Yeah, what was that encounter?
- 1:09:54Speaker 5: What did he say?
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: What was that conversation? Enlightened us with.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: What it was?
- 1:09:58Speaker 9: Yeah, So my father was murdered when I was eight
- 1:10:00Speaker 9: months old, and so I grew up with like a
- 1:10:03Speaker 9: lot of anger and I was like, man, God, you know,
- 1:10:05Speaker 9: if you didn't take my father, it was just another
- 1:10:08Speaker 9: reason why I got angry again.
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: But that day literally, like.
- 1:10:11Speaker 9: I remember being in my room and I could feel
- 1:10:14Speaker 9: like a presence in my room and got my mom's room.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: She's and she's up.
- 1:10:18Speaker 9: So the moment I hop in her bed, she's out cold,
- 1:10:21Speaker 9: like not moving, not responding, And I feel the same
- 1:10:24Speaker 9: presence again in her room and I was like, God,
- 1:10:27Speaker 9: I'm like, if this is of you, cause wind to
- 1:10:30Speaker 9: flow through my ankles out of nowhere. The windows are
- 1:10:33Speaker 9: not open, nothing, there was like this wind that just
- 1:10:35Speaker 9: flows through me. Because when my eyes closed, I could
- 1:10:38Speaker 9: see a man sitting but his home makeup was like light.
- 1:10:42Speaker 9: So then I removed like the covers of my eyes
- 1:10:45Speaker 9: and I see him with my eyes open, sitting there.
- 1:10:48Speaker 9: He gets up, He walks over to my mom and
- 1:10:50Speaker 9: I start asking him questions because I thought it was God,
- 1:10:52Speaker 9: and I was like, where were you with my dad?
- 1:10:54Speaker 12: Dad?
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: Did Dad? And he starts saying something. I had no
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: clue what he was saying. He walks over to my mom.
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: He opens her hand. He put it's like this piece
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: of paper in her hand, closes, it disappears. She wakes
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: up that morning.
- 1:11:05Speaker 9: Her pastor calls her and he was like, Hey, I
- 1:11:07Speaker 9: was in prayer and I just feel like to tell
- 1:11:09Speaker 9: you that there was an angelic encounter in your home.
- 1:11:12Speaker 9: But he didn't know to the degree of what he
- 1:11:14Speaker 9: was even saying. And I was like, Mom, I'm telling you,
- 1:11:16Speaker 9: this happened randomly. The document we had been literally ripping
- 1:11:21Speaker 9: the whole house apart for just shows up on the table.
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: And then I'm like, wait, was that the document? Like
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: was that what it symbolized?
- 1:11:28Speaker 9: Like they put in her hand, and so I'm like, oh,
- 1:11:30Speaker 9: my gosh, I met God. And then I stood at
- 1:11:32Speaker 9: hearing the voice of God and it was like, that
- 1:11:34Speaker 9: was not me, that was an angel.
- 1:11:35Speaker 5: What did the angel look like it looked like Homie
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: from the Crossroads video.
- 1:11:40Speaker 9: It was so he had like a he had a
- 1:11:43Speaker 9: human form, but the only difference his home makeup was light.
- 1:11:48Speaker 9: That was everything about him was like light radiating. So
- 1:11:51Speaker 9: I couldn't even tell you how to describe his features because.
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: It was just light.
- 1:11:56Speaker 9: I was going to say, like for you, it was
- 1:11:57Speaker 9: a lot more clear. But like some people think they're
- 1:12:00Speaker 9: hearing things, but it might not be clear that is
- 1:12:02Speaker 9: God to them. How do you coach people through being able.
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: To let that voice break through and understanding it is God.
- 1:12:08Speaker 9: Yeah, I think one of the key things is found
- 1:12:11Speaker 9: the foundational element of it. Right, you don't need to
- 1:12:13Speaker 9: read the Bible for God to speak to you, but
- 1:12:16Speaker 9: you need to have an understanding of His voice in
- 1:12:18Speaker 9: the Bible so that you're not deceived by the voices
- 1:12:21Speaker 9: you hear. And so when you have a good foundation
- 1:12:24Speaker 9: of knowing the voice of God, even in his word,
- 1:12:27Speaker 9: then when you begin to hear him or you see
- 1:12:30Speaker 9: things in the book. One of the things I talk about,
- 1:12:32Speaker 9: even before I get into the subject of dreams, are
- 1:12:34Speaker 9: the different ways.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: We experience God's voice.
- 1:12:38Speaker 9: The four primary way. So there are some people who
- 1:12:40Speaker 9: they are feelers right. You know, God has emotions. The
- 1:12:43Speaker 9: Bible talks about so many types of emotions, peace, you know, love, anger,
- 1:12:47Speaker 9: all these things. So there are people that you might
- 1:12:49Speaker 9: walk into a room there's a deal on the table
- 1:12:51Speaker 9: for you, everything checks off.
- 1:12:53Speaker 3: But then you don't.
- 1:12:54Speaker 9: You're not at peace with this. Something is like messing
- 1:12:56Speaker 9: up with you, Like, I don't think this is for me.
- 1:12:58Speaker 9: The problem is that if we don't have a god
- 1:13:00Speaker 9: consciousness about life, we.
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: Think it's us feeling that way.
- 1:13:04Speaker 9: But the Lord is trying to share his emotions with you, like, hey,
- 1:13:07Speaker 9: I'm not in that. You know, it might look good
- 1:13:09Speaker 9: on paper, but I'm not in that. So those are
- 1:13:11Speaker 9: people that feel. There are people that know. There's some
- 1:13:14Speaker 9: people that just have an instinctive knowing, and for many
- 1:13:17Speaker 9: that is more heightened when you're a kid.
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: There's a beauty with being a child.
- 1:13:21Speaker 9: Your intelligence is not in the way the older we
- 1:13:24Speaker 9: get our wisdom blocks us from discerning the voice of
- 1:13:28Speaker 9: God because we're trying to, you know, outthink it. We're
- 1:13:31Speaker 9: overthinking it rather like where did this come from? Where
- 1:13:33Speaker 9: did that come from? And then there's the hearers. There
- 1:13:35Speaker 9: are people who you know audibly. It's more rare to
- 1:13:38Speaker 9: hear the voice of God audibly now, But he also
- 1:13:40Speaker 9: speaks in the form of thoughts. So there are these
- 1:13:42Speaker 9: distinctive thoughts or series of thoughts that you would really
- 1:13:45Speaker 9: like hear in your head. And it has nothing to
- 1:13:48Speaker 9: do with how you would naturally think, how you will naturally, like,
- 1:13:51Speaker 9: you know, think about a matter. The same way that
- 1:13:53Speaker 9: anxiety has a voice. You know, pain has a voice.
- 1:13:56Speaker 9: The Lord also speaks to you through your thoughts, and
- 1:13:59Speaker 9: then they're seers and that's where dreams.
- 1:14:01Speaker 6: Come in, you know what.
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: For me, it's I remember when my my wife's father
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: passed away, right, and it was the weirdest thing. We
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: had balloons downstairs and it was her birthday and my wife,
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: out of nowhere, just started thinking about her dad. And
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: I don't know if this was whatever it was, but
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: out of nowhere, like midnight one am, the balloons that
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: were in the kitchen actually blew up the stairs and
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: came into the bedroom.
- 1:14:22Speaker 5: That helium balloons.
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: Yeah, were healing balloons, Yeah, of course they would rise.
- 1:14:26Speaker 5: He was thinking up the stairs.
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: His experience with God.
- 1:14:38Speaker 3: But it could have went to any one of the
- 1:14:40Speaker 3: bedrooms in the house.
- 1:14:41Speaker 5: It went right to the bed.
- 1:14:47Speaker 4: I believe I believe that was I believe that was it.
- 1:14:49Speaker 4: I believe that was the sign. I believe that was him,
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: I really do. I'm not doing this sound no, but
- 1:14:57Speaker 4: it was out out of my house. Those balloons could
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: have went.
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: And the fact that she was talking about her dad
- 1:15:02Speaker 3: and crying over him several hours earlier, this made me
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: feel like, damn, there are signs and there are angels.
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: How do you you know, I guess, break down different dreams.
- 1:15:12Speaker 3: What do the different dreams mean?
- 1:15:13Speaker 9: Yeah, So in the book I talk about just different
- 1:15:16Speaker 9: types of dreams, because the key thing, even before you
- 1:15:18Speaker 9: get into that, is to know why we dream, right God,
- 1:15:22Speaker 9: I mean? And their dreams can come from different places.
- 1:15:25Speaker 9: A dream can come from you, a dream can come
- 1:15:26Speaker 9: from God. A dream can come from you know.
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: The enemy. But when it comes from God.
- 1:15:31Speaker 9: God has a desire to has a desire to speak
- 1:15:34Speaker 9: to us more than we even desire to hear from him.
- 1:15:37Speaker 9: Because regardless of where we find ourselves in life, regardless
- 1:15:40Speaker 9: of how successful we perceive ourselves to be, regardless of
- 1:15:44Speaker 9: all the things we have going on, we are first
- 1:15:47Speaker 9: His creation, and there's something there. Your life is not random.
- 1:15:51Speaker 9: He desires to do life with you. He desires to.
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: Partner with you.
- 1:15:54Speaker 9: And so there are types of dreams like especially when
- 1:15:56Speaker 9: people see there, you know, loved ones who have passed on,
- 1:15:59Speaker 9: Those could be an encouragement dreams. Now, how the dream
- 1:16:02Speaker 9: is presented matters because when someone passes away, they lose
- 1:16:06Speaker 9: consciousness of the physical realm. But that does not mean
- 1:16:09Speaker 9: that who they are, their essence is gone. Right, They're
- 1:16:12Speaker 9: transitioning to a different life, you know, whether that's with
- 1:16:15Speaker 9: the Lord or you know, the opposite. Nobody wants that,
- 1:16:18Speaker 9: but they're transitioning now to like an eternal life.
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: You know, in the spiritual realm.
- 1:16:22Speaker 9: They're not fully just gone. You know who they are,
- 1:16:25Speaker 9: the core of who they are, that their spirit man
- 1:16:28Speaker 9: is still with him.
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: We have more with Pastor Stephanie Okafour when we come back.
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club Good Morning more than everybody's DJ Envy, Jess, Hilarrys, Charlamagne,
- 1:16:37Speaker 3: the God. We are the breakfast Club Law and the
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: Rosa feeling in for Jess and we're still kicking with
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: Pastor Stephanie okafor talk about you. If you feel comfortable
- 1:16:45Speaker 3: about the time you went to the doctor and God
- 1:16:47Speaker 3: told you something different than what your doctor told you.
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: Oh that happened to me.
- 1:16:52Speaker 16: You know.
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: So when I was pregnant. I have a daughter.
- 1:16:55Speaker 9: When I was pregnant with my daughter, I started experiencing
- 1:16:58Speaker 9: like a lot of pain.
- 1:16:59Speaker 12: You know.
- 1:17:00Speaker 9: We go to the are obg y n rather and
- 1:17:04Speaker 9: he's like trying to you know, even confirm the pregnancy.
- 1:17:06Speaker 9: And he's like, man, I don't see a pregnancy here.
- 1:17:09Speaker 9: I just see some things that does not look good,
- 1:17:10Speaker 9: Like you need to go to the er.
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: So we rush to the er.
- 1:17:13Speaker 9: They tell me that I have like these fibroids that
- 1:17:16Speaker 9: have gone, you know, gotten really big because of the
- 1:17:19Speaker 9: pregnancy and the blood flow going like to the womb.
- 1:17:22Speaker 9: So they you know, we share the results of the
- 1:17:24Speaker 9: doctor and he literally calls me. He was like, because
- 1:17:27Speaker 9: of the size of these fibroids, because of the location
- 1:17:29Speaker 9: of these fibroids, you need to terminate the pregnancy and
- 1:17:32Speaker 9: you need to terminate this because he was from his analysis,
- 1:17:37Speaker 9: the baby won't have room to grow and the firebords
- 1:17:40Speaker 9: could cause and even if you know, we take the
- 1:17:43Speaker 9: baby to term, the bleeding is going to be too excessive.
- 1:17:46Speaker 9: And he called back to back, he was like, I'm
- 1:17:48Speaker 9: telling you you need to terminate this and try again.
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: Let terminate it.
- 1:17:52Speaker 9: Let's take the fibroids out and try again. And so
- 1:17:56Speaker 9: I remember like I'm stealing a lot of pain, and
- 1:17:59Speaker 9: I just like I'm praying and calling out to God.
- 1:18:01Speaker 9: And that night I have a dream and the Lord
- 1:18:03Speaker 9: comes to me and says, do a two key things.
- 1:18:06Speaker 9: He says, no harm is going to come to your child,
- 1:18:08Speaker 9: and he hands me a Bible. And when I woke up,
- 1:18:11Speaker 9: I knew that the Bible was represented stand on my word.
- 1:18:15Speaker 9: So then I started opening scriptures that spoke about healing,
- 1:18:18Speaker 9: and I'm like, okay, God, no harm will come to her,
- 1:18:20Speaker 9: and this is what your word says about healing. And
- 1:18:22Speaker 9: so I got another obgyn because I'm like, God has
- 1:18:25Speaker 9: shown me like no harm is going to come to
- 1:18:27Speaker 9: this child. And the other obgyn she was like, you know,
- 1:18:30Speaker 9: I'm going to be optimistic, but I'm going to tell
- 1:18:32Speaker 9: you there is a scare and a concern. So we
- 1:18:35Speaker 9: need to get a specialist doctor, you know, involved, and
- 1:18:38Speaker 9: we need to watch this carefully. All of a sudden,
- 1:18:41Speaker 9: everything that was a concern started being reversed. So initially
- 1:18:45Speaker 9: they're like, we don't know if that you're going to
- 1:18:46Speaker 9: have room for this baby to grow. The doctor is like, oh,
- 1:18:48Speaker 9: you got room for two, you know. But the keithing
- 1:18:52Speaker 9: is getting that word from God. And I believe that's
- 1:18:54Speaker 9: why in the business of our lives, God still finds
- 1:18:58Speaker 9: that place when we're sleeping to speak to us and
- 1:19:00Speaker 9: show us, like, I know, everything in your world is
- 1:19:03Speaker 9: telling you this is not going to work, but I'm
- 1:19:05Speaker 9: showing you that.
- 1:19:05Speaker 3: I'm with you.
- 1:19:06Speaker 4: You talk about it in the book about how the
- 1:19:08Speaker 4: Bible and science talk about the benefits of getting what
- 1:19:13Speaker 4: I never heard that from the Bible.
- 1:19:14Speaker 9: Yeah, because Biblically, you know, we are body, soul, and spirit.
- 1:19:18Speaker 9: And I think so many times, even in like Christianity,
- 1:19:21Speaker 9: we only focus on like, you know, the things we
- 1:19:23Speaker 9: got to do, like the spirit realm, the soul realm.
- 1:19:26Speaker 9: But there is like your body, and in order for it,
- 1:19:29Speaker 9: you have to be a good steward over your body.
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: You know, you have to.
- 1:19:33Speaker 9: There are things that even as believers, it's just as
- 1:19:35Speaker 9: important and eat eating well just as important as working out,
- 1:19:39Speaker 9: because the body is the vehicles the thing that carries
- 1:19:42Speaker 9: your spirit.
- 1:19:42Speaker 2: There's a thing that embodies your soul.
- 1:19:44Speaker 9: So if your body is not healthy, that's not good stewardship,
- 1:19:48Speaker 9: you know, so when you're able to get proper rest,
- 1:19:51Speaker 9: and it's there's such a connection between you know, science
- 1:19:55Speaker 9: and even you know, our spirituality because from a scientific standpoint,
- 1:19:59Speaker 9: when you don't have enough rest, you have brainfall. That
- 1:20:02Speaker 9: affects your ability to even remember your dreams because when
- 1:20:05Speaker 9: you wake up and you come out of this place
- 1:20:07Speaker 9: where you had an encounter or X, Y and Z,
- 1:20:10Speaker 9: your body needs to be healthy enough to process what
- 1:20:13Speaker 9: was just deposited. And so if you're not getting enough rest,
- 1:20:16Speaker 9: it's very similar to you know, a computer, like if
- 1:20:19Speaker 9: you only allow your computer to die every single time,
- 1:20:23Speaker 9: it causes memory loss over time.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: Same thing.
- 1:20:26Speaker 9: If you only go to bed when you feel like
- 1:20:28Speaker 9: shut down, like your ex completely exhausted and you just crash,
- 1:20:33Speaker 9: it's harder for you to remember your dreams because that
- 1:20:36Speaker 9: also affects memory loss, you know, when you're waking up
- 1:20:40Speaker 9: from those moments. And so being a good steward is
- 1:20:42Speaker 9: looking at every part. Even the Bible talks about you prospering,
- 1:20:46Speaker 9: you know, in all things right, not just in your spirit,
- 1:20:49Speaker 9: but in your soul, in your body. So there's a
- 1:20:51Speaker 9: scripture that talks about bring your whole body, your whole soul,
- 1:20:54Speaker 9: and your whole spirit blameless before God. So he's after
- 1:20:58Speaker 9: everything that be a good Do it because it all
- 1:21:00Speaker 9: connects this like the conversation with you about dreams in
- 1:21:04Speaker 9: the in the book feels like how people go and
- 1:21:07Speaker 9: get like he read my palm and but it's I
- 1:21:09Speaker 9: know it's different. And growing up in a church, my grandma,
- 1:21:12Speaker 9: she don't play that we're not allowed to do that
- 1:21:13Speaker 9: type of stuff. But then pastors will prophesy to you.
- 1:21:17Speaker 9: What is why can we do one thing but not
- 1:21:18Speaker 9: the other?
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: That's a great question.
- 1:21:20Speaker 9: So when you look at the spiritual realm, just like
- 1:21:23Speaker 9: in life, right, there's good, there's evil. The spiritual realm
- 1:21:26Speaker 9: there's good, there's evil. So it's just like if you're praying,
- 1:21:29Speaker 9: Let's say you're praying for envy, right, and you're like, God,
- 1:21:32Speaker 9: what are your thoughts about envy?
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: And then the Holy Spirit might start showing you things
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: about him.
- 1:21:36Speaker 6: It's rock.
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: Envy that is, get it together.
- 1:21:45Speaker 5: Just what I pray? What God?
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: Like when somebody's being evil or they joking, like pray
- 1:21:55Speaker 3: for her eyelashes, right, and it's to the point where
- 1:21:58Speaker 3: it's like just joke too.
- 1:22:00Speaker 5: Much.
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: There's no baby want me to continue on none of that.
- 1:22:07Speaker 9: But the beauty is it's coming from God, right, and
- 1:22:11Speaker 9: what comes from Him is for your good. This is
- 1:22:13Speaker 9: and first of all, it is the source that you
- 1:22:15Speaker 9: can trust, right because it's the source that created you.
- 1:22:18Speaker 2: It's a source that knows your life. It is a
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: source that is for you.
- 1:22:22Speaker 9: When you go to someone reading your palms, a terror
- 1:22:24Speaker 9: cart reader, a psychic, the source is demonic.
- 1:22:28Speaker 5: Question.
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: You know, when people do pray, some of the prayers frivolous,
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: like for instance, like if somebody praise for their team, right,
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: not pray to be healthy or to be safe during
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: your game, or pray your team wins. Or Lauren prays
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: for a man or Charlomagne praise to be a little
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: taller and I pray for that. Like how do those
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: type of prayers work when it comes to it's one
- 1:22:48Speaker 3: of those things where write it off or is it
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: one of those things to honestly to pray for things
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: that like I prayed that the Giants win next week?
- 1:22:54Speaker 5: Is real prayer or is it?
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: No?
- 1:22:56Speaker 9: I think wherever God is so kind doesn't mean that
- 1:22:59Speaker 9: just because because you're like da, I pray the giants
- 1:23:01Speaker 9: win and guys, I all get the giants going to win.
- 1:23:03Speaker 9: But as you grow in God, you start to understand that.
- 1:23:06Speaker 9: You know, the power of prayer is when you pray
- 1:23:09Speaker 9: in alignment.
- 1:23:09Speaker 7: With His will.
- 1:23:11Speaker 9: But you have to first know his will, so that
- 1:23:12Speaker 9: takes maturity, right. But when you're still in that, like
- 1:23:16Speaker 9: you know, stage of being like a baby, you're random
- 1:23:19Speaker 9: things you could ask and sometimes he will do some
- 1:23:21Speaker 9: random things just to show you he hears.
- 1:23:23Speaker 6: You and he loves you.
- 1:23:25Speaker 5: How can they follow you?
- 1:23:25Speaker 9: Stephanie No, I'm on Instagram Stephanie E k I k
- 1:23:29Speaker 9: e and then have a YouTube channel Stephanie k okafor
- 1:23:32Speaker 9: yeah TikTok Stephanie A.
- 1:23:33Speaker 5: K Oka for yeah you appreciator? Yeah, okay, okay okay.
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: The book and where people.
- 1:23:40Speaker 9: Can get it The Power of Your Dreams, and it's
- 1:23:44Speaker 9: available everywhere.
- 1:23:45Speaker 5: A guide to hearing and understanding how God speaks?
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: Why why you sleep?
- 1:23:48Speaker 5: All?
- 1:23:48Speaker 6: Right?
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: Well, before we get about of here, let's let's close
- 1:23:50Speaker 3: on a prayer.
- 1:23:51Speaker 9: Yes, yes, yes, Heavenly Father, we thank you for just
- 1:23:54Speaker 9: everything you've done in this moment. Lord God, we thank
- 1:23:56Speaker 9: you even in talking about this book, because it's really
- 1:24:00Speaker 9: not about just getting a book out. But it's really
- 1:24:03Speaker 9: about getting people to be awakened to knowing that you
- 1:24:05Speaker 9: speak and you desire to speak to them, whether they're
- 1:24:08Speaker 9: awake or whether they're asleep. But even the power of
- 1:24:11Speaker 9: their dreams. Many people are ignoring their dreams in this
- 1:24:14Speaker 9: time and they are a world. You're trying to alert
- 1:24:16Speaker 9: them about their warnings. You want to make them aware.
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: Of their ways. You want to prepare them. There are
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: ways you want to encourage them.
- 1:24:22Speaker 9: And to Lord that just pray that you will continue
- 1:24:25Speaker 9: to be glorified in and through everything that we do.
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: We love you, Lord, We thank you and Jesus name.
- 1:24:30Speaker 6: Amen.
- 1:24:30Speaker 3: Amen, Well, thank you very much, thank you.
- 1:24:35Speaker 5: Yes, come on, it's good, thank you.
- 1:24:38Speaker 7: It's a breakfast club, everybody.
- 1:24:43Speaker 3: It's the dej n V. Jess, Ilarry Charlamagne's God. We
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: are the breakfast club. It's time for Jess. Fix my mess.
- 1:24:51Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:24:51Speaker 3: We got Stacy on the line. Stacy, good morning. What's
- 1:24:54Speaker 3: your question for Jess.
- 1:24:56Speaker 10: Yes, I got like a little I'm a lesbian. I'm
- 1:25:01Speaker 10: gonna start off saying that I share you.
- 1:25:06Speaker 13: What I said.
- 1:25:06Speaker 9: I'm a last man.
- 1:25:07Speaker 10: I start with the woman. Okay, So that's that's like
- 1:25:12Speaker 10: baseline up, why I'm acting.
- 1:25:14Speaker 14: This question right?
- 1:25:15Speaker 6: Okay?
- 1:25:15Speaker 10: Like we parent good. She was in my high school
- 1:25:18Speaker 10: wee heart, but I got a current girlfriend now only
- 1:25:20Speaker 10: was gonna me and her broke up because she kid
- 1:25:22Speaker 10: on me.
- 1:25:23Speaker 11: But I have a current girlfriend.
- 1:25:25Speaker 10: And like whenever we're talking her, whenever we're going over anything,
- 1:25:29Speaker 10: she always bring up my current girlfriend, Like I don't
- 1:25:33Speaker 10: want to be conflicted on't arguing with her, and she's like,
- 1:25:37Speaker 10: you always getting defensive, Like it's not me being defensive,
- 1:25:40Speaker 10: but it's like a conversation that we don't meet to
- 1:25:43Speaker 10: have every time we're talking about anything, like we could
- 1:25:46Speaker 10: be talking about with our child ate today and it's like,
- 1:25:49Speaker 10: well did your girlfriend cook anything? Well did your girlfriend do?
- 1:25:53Speaker 10: Like I don't even understand why.
- 1:25:55Speaker 8: She's even being brought up right now?
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: You don't understand why she's argue.
- 1:26:00Speaker 9: Yeah, So to be honest, you don't. You don't understand
- 1:26:03Speaker 9: why she's being brought up.
- 1:26:04Speaker 10: I mean she I say she's not mad, she says
- 1:26:07Speaker 10: she don't care, she says she's not jealous. But one
- 1:26:11Speaker 10: plus one equal too. But at that point from the conversation,
- 1:26:16Speaker 10: every time.
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: Then that then listen that you you you keep it
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: text only.
- 1:26:20Speaker 5: That's just it.
- 1:26:21Speaker 9: Like you if you can't stop talking, because obviously she's
- 1:26:23Speaker 9: not over you. If you can't if we can't have
- 1:26:26Speaker 9: a conversation about our child where you're not implementing the
- 1:26:29Speaker 9: fact that I have a girlfriend or anything like you're
- 1:26:31Speaker 9: you're you're bringing her up. That we just will not
- 1:26:35Speaker 9: talk verbally. We'll have to talk through text like late
- 1:26:38Speaker 9: lady ground rules.
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: Now, are you over her? Yeah, relationship that'll mean a
- 1:26:43Speaker 2: damn thing.
- 1:26:44Speaker 5: But are you so you over it?
- 1:26:46Speaker 12: Does not?
- 1:26:46Speaker 6: Girl?
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: You know?
- 1:26:47Speaker 5: All right?
- 1:26:48Speaker 2: So is your ex in a relationship?
- 1:26:49Speaker 10: No, she hasn't been in one since.
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: Say so obviously, so she's not over you.
- 1:26:55Speaker 12: She's to my.
- 1:26:57Speaker 10: Knowledge, I don't know. Maybe I wouldn't, but I got
- 1:27:04Speaker 10: you put to me. She say that she's not being
- 1:27:08Speaker 10: with nobody.
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: That's because she try all that is trying to get
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: you back.
- 1:27:13Speaker 6: Listen.
- 1:27:13Speaker 9: You know how many guys and told me y'all, I'm celibating, y'all,
- 1:27:16Speaker 9: like I'm just trying to get you back for real,
- 1:27:18Speaker 9: for real.
- 1:27:18Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: That's just.
- 1:27:21Speaker 10: She's not trying to get me back. Say I'm toxic.
- 1:27:24Speaker 9: Listen, and studs love toxicity. Okay, a lot of people
- 1:27:28Speaker 9: love toxicity.
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: So that's just what it is. She your baby mother,
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: is not over you. Your ex is not over you.
- 1:27:34Speaker 2: She's not.
- 1:27:35Speaker 3: How you can move.
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: Forward to that is just laid the ground rules. It
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: don't listen.
- 1:27:39Speaker 9: I'm not going to keep talking to you if you
- 1:27:42Speaker 9: got to bring up my girlfriend in our verbal conversations,
- 1:27:44Speaker 9: it's not we can do text only. We can still
- 1:27:46Speaker 9: co parent, but we will co parent through text, email, whatever,
- 1:27:50Speaker 9: until you get the point. I don't want to hear
- 1:27:51Speaker 9: about my girlfriend from you and and me being a relation,
- 1:27:54Speaker 9: me being in a relationship that shouldn't be a problem
- 1:27:57Speaker 9: because we're not getting back together.
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: Whether you celibate or not. You just still the mother
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: of my child.
- 1:28:01Speaker 13: That's it.
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: That's all we got. That's it. It sounds good, what
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: it sound like? No, it does sound good.
- 1:28:21Speaker 10: But whatever her like, I'm about to be on the radio,
- 1:28:23Speaker 10: please going because I need somebody else to like, hoist
- 1:28:26Speaker 10: it over because no, no, what.
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: It sounds like?
- 1:28:31Speaker 5: No listen?
- 1:28:32Speaker 3: What does sound like?
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: No?
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: Listen listen listen, girls, shut up, no, listen. What it
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: sounds like to me? Is you like that attention from her?
- 1:28:44Speaker 9: Listen to it's messing with your relationship. But you still
- 1:28:50Speaker 9: you gotta put you ain't no gun in your head
- 1:28:52Speaker 9: making you talk to her about that. It's about the child.
- 1:28:55Speaker 9: It's text only, it's email only. Whatever, get a restrain
- 1:28:58Speaker 9: in order if she bother you like that.
- 1:29:00Speaker 10: No, it's not vibing me like that, Like we co parent?
- 1:29:02Speaker 10: How about co parent with them?
- 1:29:05Speaker 9: Look exactly, that's what I'm saying. But you just so
- 1:29:07Speaker 9: it's just a verbal for you. You don't like her
- 1:29:09Speaker 9: bringing up your girlfriend, You tell her that.
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's what you do.
- 1:29:14Speaker 9: You make it a text only situation where that's it
- 1:29:18Speaker 9: you because you entertaining it still at the end of
- 1:29:20Speaker 9: the day, Like you're still entertaining it all right now.
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: You can't control will come out of your ex mouth. No,
- 1:29:24Speaker 2: you can't.
- 1:29:25Speaker 9: But at the same time, baby, it's not that hard.
- 1:29:28Speaker 9: It's I'm telling you, it's not that hard, like for
- 1:29:31Speaker 9: you to not talk to this woman. It's still co
- 1:29:34Speaker 9: parent it like verbally, that's just what it is. Like, Nah,
- 1:29:38Speaker 9: this is about the baby. Because because you can ignore
- 1:29:41Speaker 9: certain things in the text, you can ignore certain things
- 1:29:43Speaker 9: in a conversation, but it gets to you more when
- 1:29:46Speaker 9: you gotta hear it, you feel me like, just yeah,
- 1:29:49Speaker 9: talk about what you want to talk about in the text.
- 1:29:51Speaker 6: That's all.
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: That's it.
- 1:29:51Speaker 9: When she call you, you get a phone with the baby,
- 1:29:54Speaker 9: take the phone back, all right, she love you.
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: Hang up.
- 1:29:56Speaker 6: That's it.
- 1:29:57Speaker 9: That's it, especially if it's a fact of your relationship.
- 1:29:59Speaker 9: Stoping attaining that.
- 1:30:00Speaker 10: Okay, And I have one more thing I want to say,
- 1:30:03Speaker 10: and then and this is and I'm gonna just leave
- 1:30:05Speaker 10: y'all alone, all right. I saw y'all last year at
- 1:30:07Speaker 10: our podcast and then you look amazing, and I just
- 1:30:11Speaker 10: want to say that. And I love you, you.
- 1:30:16Speaker 3: Said, I said, don't we trying to be gay with me?
- 1:30:18Speaker 6: But thank you?
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: Girls, No, no, no, no messing with you.
- 1:30:22Speaker 10: I seen y'all. I seen y'all act on the show.
- 1:30:24Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know, maybe I don't know.
- 1:30:27Speaker 11: I sawt y'all sday.
- 1:30:29Speaker 3: Just I got put shot shot.
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: Hey, y'all your girlfriend going, whoop your hand?
- 1:30:37Speaker 8: You let me stop?
- 1:30:40Speaker 11: Let me stop?
- 1:30:40Speaker 3: Well, thank you, mama, Just fix my mess. Eight hundred
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- 1:30:54Speaker 4: positive Notice simply this, Uh nothing that's for you will
- 1:30:59Speaker 4: we require you to act out a character to get it.
- 1:31:02Speaker 5: Always remember that absolutely nothing. Have a great breakfast club.
- 1:31:07Speaker 5: Finish y'all done,