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25 Years Later_ Face to Face. A change of heart during our investigation of a wrongful conviction · NO FILTER

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  Speaker 1: So, Glenn, we're here today because Brain Bulling's family, his
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  Speaker 1: uncle Michael and his sister Amanda, reached out and they
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  Speaker 1: asked if you'd be willing.
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  Speaker 2: To talk to them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think when we first told you
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to speak to you?
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  Speaker 2: My heart was heavy for me, you know, because I
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  Speaker 2: know they're going through a hard time, and it was
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  Speaker 2: it was really just a blessing for me because I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk to him. I love to talk to him,
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  Speaker 2: to just let them know that I have no hard
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  Speaker 2: feelings told them whatsoever. You know what I'm saying. What
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  Speaker 2: went down, it hurt damn more than it did me,
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  Speaker 2: I be honest. Would you the way they've done that family?
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  Speaker 2: You know, my just how it goes out to them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So here we are at the live of Baptist Church.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me why you guys wanted to reach out to
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  Speaker 1: him and what you hope to talk about today.
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  Speaker 3: We just feel that we've heard kind of a part
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  Speaker 3: of the story that we've never heard before. We've never
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  Speaker 3: spoken to the Clark family at all, and after hearing
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  Speaker 3: the podcast, hearing things as went on during the podcast,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people not being truthful, we feel that
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  Speaker 3: Lee is innocent and would like to talk to mister
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  Speaker 3: Clark and offer our apologies for his son being in jail.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Amanda, it's been especially hard for you. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a process for you to come to this point.
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  Speaker 4: What do you guys think happened that night?
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  Speaker 5: I think Josh was there. I think Lee was there
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  Speaker 5: to make sure that Josh did it, or one of
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  Speaker 5: them took my brother's life. I do know that because
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  Speaker 5: I know my brother didn't do it. I mean, and
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  Speaker 5: one is just as guilty as the other, because it's
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  Speaker 5: both there.
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  Speaker 6: I prayed and prayed on it, you know, for you know.
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  Speaker 5: God to help me with this, because you know, how do.
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  Speaker 6: You know, how do you go from.
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  Speaker 4: That to this?
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  Speaker 6: You know, And it's just it's heartbreaking to know that
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  Speaker 6: he spent twenty five years bought up or something he
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  Speaker 6: didn't do, and there's no way I know we can
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  Speaker 6: rever repay him for that.
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  Speaker 1: Do you still have the message that Amanda sent you
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  Speaker 1: that meeting.
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  Speaker 4: It to us?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I rudly tell you, it says missus Clark. I
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  Speaker 2: would like to start off by saying I am truly
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  Speaker 2: sorry from the bottom of my heart. And so about
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  Speaker 2: the last twenty five years of Lee deserving to be home.
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  Speaker 2: I have been pray so hard for God to help
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  Speaker 2: with this. There are no way that I can ever
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  Speaker 2: make it up to Lee or you for these past
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  Speaker 2: twenty five years. I pray you all can forgive me
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  Speaker 2: and my family, and just wanting to tell you please
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  Speaker 2: read read this to Lee and tell him I am
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  Speaker 2: so sorry, and I pray he gets to get set free.
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  Speaker 2: If there's anything I can do to help, please let
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  Speaker 2: me know. It took a lot for her to do that,
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  Speaker 2: but that was real sweet for her to do that. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that just goes to goes to show you she's she's
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  Speaker 2: she got to change heart, to change mind. And I
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  Speaker 2: can understand too what I can understand all that. Look,
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  Speaker 2: you got a brother that that that killed herself. We
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  Speaker 2: got devastation right there and then and then you've got
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  Speaker 2: somebody comes in detective battles and saying all this and
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  Speaker 2: putting all that garbing trash in their their head. There
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  Speaker 2: wasn't nothing but the laws. So I mean, yeah, I'd
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  Speaker 2: probably been there the same way.
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  Speaker 4: You know, what did he say when you were reaving
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  Speaker 4: the message back? He was touch with it.
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  Speaker 2: He was real touch with that right there, and he
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  Speaker 2: told me, he said, Diddy, and when you see her,
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  Speaker 2: you tell her that I'm sorry that she had to
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  Speaker 2: go through what she went through, and I'm so thankful
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  Speaker 2: now that she's coming through with this. And and it
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  Speaker 2: just uh it amble leave.
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  Speaker 4: He he really was.
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  Speaker 2: I just hate you know, all these people had go
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  Speaker 2: through all the stuff.
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  Speaker 4: You know, how difficult had the last few months ago.
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  Speaker 3: It has been difficult to listen to it, kind of
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  Speaker 3: reliving the whole thing again. We went through this couple
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  Speaker 3: of years before the trial, just pure hell, and then
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  Speaker 3: all the time since then of just looking for answers.
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  Speaker 3: We're open to opening our wounds again, just for the real,
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  Speaker 3: true answers. And we don't want anyone that sent us
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  Speaker 3: up to be in jail, and we felt guilt for that.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's a hard process, and I'm impressed and grateful
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  Speaker 4: that your family has been so open to this process
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  Speaker 4: because it's hard. It is hard.
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  Speaker 6: It's very hard, very hard.
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  Speaker 3: But we're doing it for the whole whole family. You know,
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  Speaker 3: my sister, her and her husband both had past my
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  Speaker 3: mother and father. But that's all we've been looking for.
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  Speaker 3: His answers.
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  Speaker 4: Are you ready, Oh yeah, all right, let's do this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm rude,