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- 0:06You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show. Wednesday morning, twelfth day
- 0:11of July. Hi, I'm Wes, thanks for joining me. Yesterday was
- 0:16a day. It was about six days crammed into one day, and it
- 0:24was a day. But we survived. We made it. We're here there
- 0:29doing a little Harry carry. There we survived, a little Will Ferrell doing
- 0:34Harry carry. Anyway, I managed to get through it. The Carol household
- 0:38got through it, and here we are, new day, new opportunity for
- 0:43I don't know. Stuff to happen, things to get complicated, things to
- 0:46be but that's what it's life. That's life. Things get thrown in our
- 0:51direction and we have to deal with it. We have to figure out how
- 0:55we're going to navigate through it, how we're going to manage, how we're
- 0:57gonna get through it. And that's what we do. That's just part of
- 1:00the process. Some days not a lot of obstacles, Some days lots of
- 1:04obstacles. Some days we have to learn to just jump all the hurdles.
- 1:07Some days, you know, we're not even in a race. It's all
- 1:11right overall, big picture though. We're kind of always in a race,
- 1:15aren't we. There Always something going on, some sort of challenge, it's
- 1:18going to come our way, but we get through it, and I realize
- 1:21I'm talking about things without going into specifics with it. Yesterday for me personally,
- 1:26but I got something going on with my eye. It's read. I
- 1:34don't know if it's pink eye. I don't know if it's allergies. I
- 1:37don't know what it is. But I was given some eye drops. I'll
- 1:40do that, and well, that was the first problem. There was an
- 1:42issue with my mailbox, there was some issue with text messages that didn't send
- 1:48or receive, and then other stuff. But that's enough. It was just
- 1:51a lot going on yesterday, having to navigate through things, but we did
- 1:56it. So here we are on a Wednesday morning together and I want to
- 2:00talk. We got this. Uh, you know, we're getting ready for
- 2:01the US women's national team, ready to try to go for another World Cup.
- 2:08It would be historic, it would be record breaking. And of course
- 2:13there's there's two sides to this. I enjoy watching the US women's national team
- 2:20play soccer. I do. I like they're they're very good, they're very
- 2:24gifted. They're very skilled, very talented obviously and have been for some time.
- 2:30And I, you know, like most I think of America kind of
- 2:36got on the bandwagon many many moons ago, Mia Hamm and co. Those
- 2:40that team that the Brandy Chastain taking her jersey off there and her sports brat
- 2:46after kicking the game winning penalty kick. And it's been fun following them ever
- 2:53since it has been. I've enjoyed that and I'm hopeful at progress is maybe
- 3:00going for the men, the US men's team, But in this following soccer
- 3:07or football, if you will, for the US women's national team has not
- 3:10been without complications, without hurdles, if you will. To have a call
- 3:15back to my previous statement, because we know there's been a long series of
- 3:22controversies, in controversial statements and things that have been said. There have been
- 3:29players who arguably some of the best players in the world, who have come
- 3:34forward and put themselves in a position to they want to be activists, They
- 3:39want to be a guess controversial. They don't. I guess they say that
- 3:45they don't want to be controversial, but they do put themselves out there and
- 3:49you know, they want to use their platform as they say. One of
- 3:54the women's players who has done this quite a bit has been Meghan Rapino,
- 4:01and Meghan Rapino, who herself is a part of the LGBTQ plus community.
- 4:06I think she's part of the L community. But I don't know. I
- 4:10don't. I don't keep tabs on all that. I know at the very
- 4:13least she's part of the L. But you have to understand some of those
- 4:15letters kind of involve L. But maybe don't. I don't know, but
- 4:19I think she's an L, right. I think that's where she is on
- 4:23the on the whole spectrum of things, right. And if she's not,
- 4:27I apologize, I'm I'm just but I believe that would be the letter that
- 4:31she identifies with as and as a group overall. But she has been someone
- 4:38who has taken offense with the national anthem. A lot of people taking offense
- 4:43with that. You're playing on a national team for a country that is,
- 4:47you know, in some way footing the bill. Right, we have these
- 4:53Olympics, we have you know, various competitions. Now, if she's not
- 4:58standing for the anthem at and I think all that maybe has stopped. Maybe
- 5:01I don't know, But if you're not standing at the anthem at a professional
- 5:05game, okay, for whatever country, wherever you are, If you're not
- 5:10standing for the anthem at that to me as much as I don't want to
- 5:14see it, But whatever you gotta do. I've always said, it's really
- 5:18easy if you take offense with it, and it's not about putting on a
- 5:23show. Just stay in the locker room. And I think some of that
- 5:25was what started to happen at some point. But Rapino is one who you
- 5:30know, wanted to kneel during the anthem or you know, I guess she
- 5:34did stay in the back during the anthem at times whenever she was told that
- 5:38she couldn't, you know, kneel, And that's there's different layers of that
- 5:45whole thing, and I have been very outspoken about I do think that as
- 5:48Americans' rights to protests should include many scenarios. Being part of a national team
- 5:57I don't think is one of those scenarios where you should be able to do
- 6:00it. That's all right, And I know people go, well, what
- 6:01about the soldiers and what about and it's more than that. There's more going
- 6:08on there, And I think about what our founders would have thought about someone
- 6:12you know, protesting the flag and being told you're not allowed to protest that.
- 6:15I don't think they would have been okay with that, but I don't
- 6:17know. I've never spoken with them. I couldn't tell you. The closest
- 6:21I've come to speaking to one of the founders is, you know, I
- 6:26saw Benjamin Franklin plumbing truck drive by. That's as close to having a conversation
- 6:30with one of them as i've been so well, actually, I read James
- 6:34Madison's biography, but that's I guess technically that's closer, all right, so
- 6:40because you kind of get in his head right a little bit with the biography.
- 6:44So Megan Rapino is now saying, and I guess she has voiced support
- 6:48for transgender athletes in women's sports for a while now, but now that she's
- 6:55back within a position where she's back in the spotlight because of the Women's World
- 6:59Cup, and she says she would welcome a transgender woman onto the team,
- 7:03even if that meant replacing one of the biological women from the team. Yes,
- 7:10she wouldn't have a problem. Now, I guess the question would be,
- 7:14how would you feel about it if you were the player who was replaced
- 7:19by the trans woman. Rapino says that there's no unfair advantage for transgender women
- 7:29that you know, biologically male. She doesn't think that there's any sort of
- 7:33advantage, and she says that basically as a quote, it's particularly this isn't
- 7:42a something that she wrote, and she says, it's particularly frustrating when women's
- 7:49sports is weaponized. Oh, now we care about fairness, Now we care
- 7:55about women's sports. That's total bs, she said. And she said,
- 8:00show me all the trans people who are nefariously taking advantage of being trans in
- 8:05sports. It's just not happening. Well, there's a few examples. There's
- 8:11absolutely a few examples, and they have been very high profile, and the
- 8:16women who've been upset by those particular athletes have been really put in their place
- 8:22and mocked and made fun of and told to shut up and all those sorts
- 8:26of things. I think the fact that we had a you know, a
- 8:33college swimmer who was biologically male, not very successful as a swimmer. It
- 8:41became a trans woman and then absolutely dominated women swimming, that should be enough
- 8:48to say that this is possible, right, and then probably likely you know
- 8:54now not all enjoy that success. We saw in the Olympics there was a
- 9:00trans from New Zealand, a trans woman who competed in weightlifting and didn't do
- 9:05especially well, and people, some people said, well, there's an example
- 9:09right there, and it's like, but this was someone who was way past
- 9:13their prime and not exactly a college athlete who was in a position to dominate
- 9:20inside the pool. So I guess and excuse me. Meghan Drapino certainly is
- 9:26entitled to her opinion. She she's she's living a life that I can't particularly
- 9:31speak to. I do. I do call to use her term bs that
- 9:39she would not have a problem with a biological woman being kicked off the team
- 9:43if it was her. I mean, I just I can't believe that someone
- 9:48would work now she's she's also kind of past her prime. She's working as
- 9:52far as sports goes, she's she's I guess that's fair to say. I
- 9:58don't know. She's still pretty darn good, but she's getting ready to retire.
- 10:01And that's why I say pastor prime. I'm not trying to pull any
- 10:03Don Lemon stuff here, That's not what I'm saying. I'm just pointing out
- 10:07the fact that she's long in the tooth for a soccer player at this level,
- 10:11and that happens you play. She's still way better than I ever was,
- 10:18even now, and she will be when she's sixty. So I'm not
- 10:22pretending to in any way mock her skills as a soccer player. I'm just
- 10:26pointing out the fact that she says after this year she's going to retire and
- 10:30be done playing soccer for the national teams. She's ready to retire, she'll
- 10:35move on. So I guess what, And I just don't believe that even
- 10:41now, she would be happy being bumped off the team, especially not maybe
- 10:46if she was on the way up. I mean, what if she never
- 10:48got an opportunity to be on the team in the first place because a man
- 10:52who was on maybe didn't quite make the men's team, decided that he was
- 10:58gonna compete on the women's team. So maybe that could have played out and
- 11:05it would have put Rappino in a position where maybe she didn't make it on
- 11:09the team. So I would argue that she would not be comfortable with that
- 11:13particular scenario, even though she says that she would, and she says that
- 11:18she would be completely fine with it. I don't know that I necessarily believe
- 11:22that. I just don't. I don't know how that would play out.
- 11:26But back to her point where she says that this isn't really happening on a
- 11:30mass scale, I guess my question is, why isn't it? Why do
- 11:35you think it's not happening on a mass scale? Because I feel like it's
- 11:41a matter of time before we are going to see a country decide that in
- 11:52a scenario, in a sport, in an environment where it's welcomed, that
- 11:56we're going to see this play out professionally or in some sort of international competition.
- 12:03I mean, what stops a country from saying, yeah, we're going
- 12:05to do this. I mean, keep in mind, think back to the
- 12:13Cold War era Olympics. Russians didn't have. You know, there were all
- 12:18sorts of Soviet Union I should say the Soviet Union, not Russia, but
- 12:20there were all sorts of issues and questions about athletes and doping and things.
- 12:24Right, a lot of like, oh, man, the East Germans,
- 12:28look at that. Look what's going on there with the East Germans and all
- 12:31of the potential doping that's going on there. So it is feasible that there
- 12:39would be someone who would say yeah, we'll cheat. Well, absolutely cheat.
- 12:43We're gonna take advantage of this loophole. And I don't know that we're
- 12:48not going to see that happen at some point. Now, could we see
- 12:52it happen in the WUNBA? And how long would it be tolerated? How
- 12:56long would it be allowed to happen if you had a team of former NBA
- 13:03players or maybe up and comers that didn't quite get drafted and didn't quite make
- 13:07it that we're comfortable just saying, hey, we want to know what this
- 13:09feels like to succeed at this level. You can't kid yourself and say that
- 13:15this hasn't at least been discussed. It's got to have been discussed somewhere in
- 13:20some scenario, at some level. Why have we not had a minor league
- 13:28team in some capacity do this? Why? I mean, it is feasible,
- 13:35it is possible. It is something that people have to have discussed.
- 13:39So why hasn't it happened? I don't know the answer. I'm asking this
- 13:45really hoping that somebody maybe has an answer for the question. I know that
- 13:50there's people that don't want to feel the way it would make them feel.
- 13:54I know that there are some people who would just say it's just it's not
- 13:58fair, it's cheating, and I would hope that that's the thing that's holding
- 14:03it back. But we know that there's people that are capable of cheating.
- 14:07We know that there's people who want to cheat right because they figure they can't.
- 14:13As the old Bobby the brain Heenan from a back in the WWF,
- 14:16back then days before it became World Widelife Federation. But it's uh, you
- 14:22know WWF Bobby Heenan. If you can't win fair, cheat that was one
- 14:28of his slogans. And there are people who have that mindset. There are
- 14:31people who have that mentality. So don't kid yourself. It is possible.
- 14:37But there is some sense of morality that's holding it back, isn't There isn't
- 14:43there's some sense of morality that's holding it back because the numbers don't really make
- 14:48a lot of sense overall. They don't make sense when you start talking about
- 14:54the number of people who were now identifying as LGBTQ plus. Brown University has
- 15:03had a significant spike in the number of people who are identifying that way.
- 15:09It's like forty percent identifying as gay. Is that right? Forty percent.
- 15:18That's significantly higher than the numbers have ever been. And if that's where things
- 15:24are, there's got to be a lot of people thinking, hey, this
- 15:28is an opportunity. But the reality is that there are people who could have
- 15:33gotten maybe ahead a little bit with affirmative action. There's people who've said,
- 15:37well, we have a Native American lineage in my family, I could take
- 15:43advantage of that. And they say, I don't want to get ahead that
- 15:45way. I don't want to cheat that way. I don't want to cheat
- 15:48the system that way. I'd like to earn it. I'd like to put
- 15:50in the work and earn it. So I would like to think that's what's
- 15:56holding it back. But it's eventually going to happen, isn't it. We're
- 15:58a eventually gonna have I mean, we're having it in beauty pageants, We're
- 16:04having it in a number of different awards being given out to men as the
- 16:11Woman of the Year. So there's people who aren't afraid to get ahead with
- 16:15it. But I'd like to think in a wide spread. I mean,
- 16:18is it possible that we're going to have an MVP of the w NBA at
- 16:23some point? It's going to be a transwoman who didn't quite make it into
- 16:30the NBA but is dominating now dunking, And I mean, isn't that a
- 16:36plot of a movie? Did somebody do this as a movie? I think
- 16:38that was a movie, So I don't know. I'd like to think that
- 16:42it's there's some sense of morality that's holding it back. But it just gives
- 16:48somebody like Megan Rapino the opportunity to say, it's not happening in Mascale.
- 16:52It's not happening. So there's no way that they're really that much better.
- 16:56And I think a lot of people can say that, specially when we look
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- 20:33Show. Right after the break, well do you put sunscreen on your pet?
- 20:47We're in sunscreen season. If you're not putting on sunscreen every time you
- 20:51go outside, you're just asking asking for problems, asking for complications. Wrinkles.
- 20:57I don't even want to say the word, but you know the C
- 21:00word they talk about that you get it on your skin. People get it.
- 21:03If you're outside and you're not wearing sunscreen. You gotta do it.
- 21:08You gotta you gotta wear big floppy hats. You gotta have it. But
- 21:12are you putting it on your pet? Because a new survey says fifteen percent
- 21:18of pet owners put sunscreen on their pets in summer. Fifteen percent make sure
- 21:22that the pavement where their pet is walking isn't too hot. Those people are
- 21:26called decent human beings. If you're walking your pet and it's just boiling hot
- 21:32on the ground, you don't want your pet doing it. Their pads are
- 21:34really sensitive on their feet, you know, I'm assuming we're talking about a
- 21:37dog here. I don't know many people that walk their cats. I know
- 21:41some do. Some people walk birds. I don't understand why birds would walk.
- 21:45They can fly for crying out loud. But it's just the reality,
- 21:51just the reality. You gotta take care of those feet. You gotta take
- 21:53care of the skin, gotta put it. I don't know where you put
- 21:56sunscreen on a dog. They got fur, I'm hoping they got I'm kind
- 22:00of fur. If you got one of those cats that has no fur,
- 22:03god bless you. But if you got one and you got to put sunscreen
- 22:07on that cat, That's what I'm saying. And according to fifteen percent say
- 22:11that they I don't know. Do they spray it on there? What do
- 22:14they do? How does that work when they've got because don't I make sure
- 22:17the ground's not too hot. It's my dog's birthday today, by the way,
- 22:22all right, and if you see him, tell him happy birthday.
- 22:26Do you like being bored? If so, you're probably the creative type.
- 22:30A new study from the University of Arizona found that creative people are able to
- 22:36entertain themselves during downtime without being on their phones or watching something on TV.
- 22:41Instead, creative types use times of boredom to explore their thoughts. That's what
- 22:48I call that. Trying to fall asleep, That's what I call that.
- 22:52That's my time. It's just my time. I try to fall asleep and
- 22:57I do creative projects in my head. I think, Man, if only
- 23:00I could harness this power in the real world, Oh the things I could
- 23:04do. I build houses in my head. That's what I do, Like
- 23:07tiny houses. I build them in my head until I fall asleep. Sometimes
- 23:11I get really far into it and then I fall asleep, and then I
- 23:15got to start over because it's hard to save it right before he falls.
- 23:18You got to save your documents as you go, you got to do that.
- 23:22Bad news for if you like diet sodas, drinks, diet cokes,
- 23:27whatever you want to call them, This story says sodas. Nutritionists keep finding
- 23:33new evidence that diet soft drinks. How about that, even though they have
- 23:37fewer calories than these sugary counterparts, may be just as bad for you.
- 23:41The new findings come on the heels of a recent World Health Organization report saying
- 23:45that all people accept those with preexisting diabetes should avoid foods and drinks with artificial
- 23:48sweeteners because they can increase your risk of developing type two diabetes or diabetes and
- 23:56cardiovascular diseases. Nutritionists all sorry, nutritionus now site evidences suggests diet sodas may
- 24:03not actually aid in weight loss, and in fact may lead to weight gain
- 24:08by increasing cravings for more calorie dense foods. Neither is great for you.
- 24:14And nutritionists suggests drinking water or simply having sparkling water. And I see this
- 24:18is where this is some of that backwards logic we got going on here,
- 24:22So Nutritionists is a stray from the article. Nutritionists site evidence that suggests diet
- 24:30sodas may not actually aid in weight loss and may in fact lead to weight
- 24:34gain by increasing cravings for more calorie dense foods. So what if they don't.
- 24:41What if you're craving a soft drink and by having the diet soft drink,
- 24:47you're not having the calorie dense soft drink, You're having the diet version
- 24:52of it. See nutritions suggests drinking water sparkling water as how it finishes.
- 24:57So some people say that the harbonation alone is not good for you. It's
- 25:00bad for bone density or something. I don't even know if that's still a
- 25:03thing, but I remember reading that once and going, what is this sparkling
- 25:08water? I think people were trying to say, oh, you can't have
- 25:11carbonated because you know, you know all that CO two in the atmosphere or
- 25:15whatever. That's right, all right, if you're a geek and you're proud
- 25:19of it, let your geek flag fly in one of the geekiest cities in
- 25:26America. You would you like to know based on a study the geekiest city
- 25:33in America, I'm gonna tell you right now, I take I don't know
- 25:40what I was trying to look at the protocols on this study, but they
- 25:44say the geekiest city in America is New York City. I think that's just
- 25:49by population alone. I don't know they say, but a number of collectibles
- 25:55available, number of costumes available, community events, all of those things I
- 26:00guess factor into this. La San Antonio, Chicago, Vegas, or the
- 26:07top five. Atlanta comes in at number eight. Finishing now, Orlando is
- 26:15number one for events. New York is number one for collectibles, costumes,
- 26:18and community in sixth for events. Orlando is number one for events, Atlanta
- 26:25number two for events. And I would just like to point out that one
- 26:29of MC geekiest events that exists in the whole universe is coming up Labor Day
- 26:34Weekend's dragon Con. And I'm gonna be talking more about dragon Con as we
- 26:37get closer to it. But so there you go. Raleigh, North Carolina
- 26:42at number thirty six. I'm just trying to look for a few cities to
- 26:45pinpoint along the way. Nashville at number fifty eight. I mean, I
- 26:52hit Florida and I hit Georgia. I'm trying to see if there's anybody.
- 27:00New Orleans is in here at number thirty two. So yeah, I mean,
- 27:06just trying to figure any more kind of in the southeast. Worth noting
- 27:08Memphis is in there at fifty one, So Memphis finishing higher than Nashville.
- 27:15I think that's fair. Chattanooga at sixty five. Okay, so let's rep
- 27:21in the southeast there, Birmingham. That's what I was looking for. Huntsville
- 27:22and Birmingham at eighty and eighty one, Huntsville at eighty, Birmingham eighty one.
- 27:27I was trying to see if we had some Alabama representation in there.
- 27:30I guess Huntsville maybe because obviously, you know there's a there's a space center
- 27:37up there. I think that may have something to do with it. So
- 27:40there you go. All right, that'll do it for this Wednesday edition of
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