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Wow. Today we're going to be doing
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our week 19 buy low sell high trade targets episode.
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As always, the link to our social media is in the link tree
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in the podcast description. So Josh, start us off with your
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bi Lo. All right, so this week I'm
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focusing my Bilo and my cell high decent amount on playoff
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schedule as well, so. I think it's the time of the.
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Year, yeah. So this is, you know, when it's
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earlier on the season, further away from playoffs, it's less of
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a consideration, but at this point there's only three
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matchups before playoffs if you're a week 22 to 24 um
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league. So it's really time to focus on
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that. So my choice for my buy low this
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week is Coal Caulfield. Over the past month, he's only
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averaging .6 points per game and .07 power play points compared
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to a season average of .88 points per game and .21 power
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play points. He still shooting an elite rate
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of over three shots on goal and he's still locked on to line one
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power play 1 and will be for the whole season.
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The haves as a whole are going through a really rough stretch
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lately and nobody's really producing, but somebody has to
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produce even on bad teams and that person will be Cofield.
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The Habs also have an amazing playoff schedule with four games
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in Week 23 and 24, so this is a great pickup to prep for the
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playoffs. So some good one for one targets
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that I'd consider are Dylan Guenther, Nikolai Ellers, and
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Travis Konecny. Yep.
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I mean, I completely agree with everything you're saying.
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I think all these Habs assets, I mean all these are haves assets
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was probably only a handful that are relevant.
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Let's like Suzuki, Caulfield, maybe line Hudson potentially.
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But yeah, now is the time to buy low on them if you can improve
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your roster. And I think these targets are
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great. I think Gunther is probably on
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the higher end of these guys. I think he's the hottest right
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now. So maybe you could even get
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Cofield plus potentially. But I mean, you would never have
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thought that you could trade Travis connecting for cold
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coffee and then be upgrade for your team at this point.
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His his categories have been taking a hit.
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He's like less than two shots and hits right now on the season
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for the last like couple of weeks.
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Yeah, all these are great targets.
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I would try to get coffee on the low right now.
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He's my favorite. Have to target him and Suzuki.
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So yeah, this is a great trade. Yeah, this this is coincided
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with the whole team being bad as you mentioned and also line AI
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mean apparently the new Fortnite came out and since that line has
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been pretty busy so because. He's the Kyler Murray of the
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NHL. Yeah, exactly.
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That was so essentially with this, just to dive a bit into
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it, when line stopped scoring, really like the whole team
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stopped. Scoring line.
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It was greatly stopped. Yeah, it was a great, he was a
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great decoy for Caulfield, right.
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So either Cofield was, you know, like he was the scorer before
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lining got healthy, but then he was able to really transition
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into being like a good assist guy as well.
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So he's shown that he could do both.
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And you mentioned this earlier, if at the end of the season the
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Habs aren't really in a playoff position, they're just going to
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let their young guys like be more creative on the ice.
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He's probably him and Hudson are the most skilled players on the
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Hobbs. So it would be really good to
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see that with the playoff schedule that lines up really
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nicely for him succeeding. Completely agree.
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Yeah, alright, my buy low is one of my favorite guys that have
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been targeting the whole season that I have not been able to get
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on my fantasy team. But it is none other than Adrian
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Kempe of the Los Angeles Kings. So for the last month campaign
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is only a 0.54 points per game, which is honestly kind of
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atrocious for a guy that was drafted so highly.
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And this comes as the Kings have gone through a really dry spell
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where they haven't been scoring more than two goals in almost
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what it was like 10 straight games and score two goals.
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Shut out and back-to-back also. It's just ridiculous how many
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games they went without scoring. And yeah, and funny enough, his
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his shot volume has gone up to over four shots a game even
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though they haven't been scoring.
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So that's something to monitor. But yeah, I think is one of the
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most underrated power forwards in the league, but it hits tend
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to go under the radar with 1.5 hits a game.
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The Kings are a team that with a great playoff schedule as well.
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And I have been generally targeting all their assets for
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the last few weeks months now. But campaign in my opinion, is
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the best fantasy asset on the Kings and they will only succeed
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as a team and he starts succeeding.
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So he should be a point per game player.
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Right now he's half of that and they're heading into the Four
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Nations break and it will be a great opportunity to try to
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swing a trade for him. You won't be able to get him for
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too cheap. He still has like solid value.
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His peripherals are great even though it's points have been
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lackluster. But the window was open and I
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think you can definitely trade some big names to get him as
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campaign holds less mainstream name value in my opinion.
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I mean Josh mentioned trading Dylan Gunther for cold coffee.
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I think you can try to swing that for Adrian Kempe as well.
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I like Thomas Hurdle, who's been on a really hot tricked by
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rather have campy Russell season.
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Yes, for brat, who is basically only points and and nothing else
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with a terrible playoff schedule.
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I try to flip that for campaign Zibanejad, who will talk maybe
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about a little bit later, but maybe yeah, was stay tuned for
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for Kempe. I think right now it's about it
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has a big name value and plus the Rangers are firing on all
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cylinders right now after the J Miller trade.
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Ekblad was a stretch. I tried to go cross position,
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but I think he's been hot. Maybe you can do eggplant plus
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for Tempe if that team needs a defenseman.
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Just trying to give you a little bit.
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Of options. Jake Anderson, too, right?
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That could be good. Yeah, only difference is
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Sanderson also has a. Great player.
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Yeah, exactly. But I think I'd rather.
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Campaign for sure, no question. Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, I agree with everything you said.
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Kempe is the best asset on the Kings and the shot volume is if
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I see a guy who's getting this few points with this many shots,
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yeah, that's like a massive green flag.
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Like this is a great buy low. So pretenders gonna go up.
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Yeah, exactly. So So he's a great target, like
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you said. I've also been targeting him all
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year. And maybe the fact that we're
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both bombarding the guy with office.
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For like, I don't wanna trade. That's it exactly.
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I will save your targets. I don't think vodka to done, but
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like you said could potentially and then I think with Brat you
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can get Kempe and a little something extra usually with
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just how much Brad has been like.
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I would do one for one even if it came.
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Down for sure, I would do the one for one if they're hard
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balling, but I think you could probably get more in return
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because Brad has just been unreal with the points lately
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And yeah, his backups are just really bad and he's about bad
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playoff schedule which is why I'd be happy making this swap.
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And then to manage add was kind of garbage all season.
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Now the Miller trade came and Savannah had kind of like pick
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things up. Rangers have the worst playoff
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schedule of any team for weeks 22 to 24.
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So I would definitely do this trade frame also.
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What do you think of Hurdle? I feel like he's also like he's
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been really hot. Biggest has a decent playoff
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schedule. Too.
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I think that would be a tough one to swing.
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I'd definitely rather compete a hurdle.
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Hurdle has nice cat coverage, but.
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Hurdle been on fire though, so I feel like he's right now he's
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got. If there's a time where you can
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pull it off, it's now. But I think that's a that's a
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clear win with campaign, yeah. Yeah, I think I could get it
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done. I think I could get done like
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especially, yeah, especially because I mean, if you have face
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offs. It'll be a bit of a hurdle, but.
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That's all folks. We should retire.
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Right now. Yeah, yeah, that was that was
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brilliant. No, it's this is these are all
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good points from both of you. Targets are great.
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I did want to when I said Sanderson, it's only because the
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Eckblad elements of it all. It's like he's had the
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opportunity this year. So it's really nice with him on
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power play one. But what I wanted to mention it
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was Sanderson is because even though he does have a good
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playoff schedule, like you can't only give guys with bad playoff
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schedules. You know for sure that's a good
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one. You know, the guys are training
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with are even aware of that. Yeah, yeah.
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Not all religions are gonna be thinking about playoff schedule
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for sure, so we gotta keep that in mind even if.
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They are. If they're not in a playoff
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position right now to be focusing on that, you know, they
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might have to do whatever just makes they think makes their
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team better immediately. When trying to think who's the
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best defenseman, you would take one for one for Tempe.
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Like I think it ranges, it goes around like a top five to seven
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defensemen like this headmen. Would you rather have Admin or
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Campe? I think that's close.
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That's very close. I probably campaign.
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I'd take Campe, I think. Yeah, I.
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Think more shots, the blocks you can kind of place, but.
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Like out-of-the-box that could be a.
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Good not take campaign over Fox. Yeah, that could be like an
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enticing thing. That could definitely get done.
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I had been more than Fox. Yeah, me.
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Too. Same.
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Yeah, no, for sure. And yeah.
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Who's shorter or shorter or Tempe?
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Bouchard But it's really like, it's the shots like.
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It's not like. He's been doing the like the
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four shots on goal thing, which is insane.
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Bouchard's just been doing the four shots on goal thing as a
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defenseman. Which is more valuable?
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Yeah. But I really like it.
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It's a great call. Yeah, OK, my choice for this
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week's buy low is uncharacteristically
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controversial for me. Why?
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Doesn't it's Jordan stall again? Even in an on face off league,
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get him on the. Team.
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Yeah, so as we watch Jordan Stall highlights Wow Studio.
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That's hilarious. Yeah, We really do our homework
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around here. But yeah, so it's one of the
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three guys with the same last name on his team.
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Not Marcus, It's Elias Pettersson.
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The forward of the defenseman. Oht God crazy.
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So it's Elias Pettersson the forward.
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It was a lot. It was Peterson before Patterson
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became cool. Put it that way.
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So was that one. So with all the drama from the
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Canucks this year, people seem to have forgotten how elite
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Patterson has been his whole career.
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He's been overshadowed by Miller lot like last year.
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But the year prior Patterson outscored Miller by 20 points.
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He's got 102 compared to Miller's 82 from 2 years ago.
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So any player who has a history of being able to score 100
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points can do it again. And he's not going to get there
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this year, obviously, but the fact that he's averaging .69.
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Nice lol. During this season means there's
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serious room for positive regression.
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I think that the Canucks are far from looking to blow up their
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team, seeing as they're very much alive in the playoff race.
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And yeah, because of that, I think that this is absolutely
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your best time to send a trade offer for a player that can
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easily finish at 1.2 points per game going forward.
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And yeah, I really think that you can get him for a cheap
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price. The, you know, formula for best
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player on a team fighting for a playoff spot.
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And the whip cream or cherry on top, whatever we're calling it
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these days of this player vastly underperforming all season makes
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us almost too good to be true. So it is polarizing.
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Like, of course it's a big swing, high risk, high reward,
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but I think it could. Work.
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I think it just depends who you're giving, yeah.
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Whoa, that's a segue made in the lab right there.
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So some good one for one targets.
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You got Duchane, Hurdle, Jarvis and Natus.
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Off. What do we think?
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I mean, OK, Kevin, tell me why I suck at everything first.
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No, we're going to move on to. I like everything you said.
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OK, that's a good start. I would also be targeting
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Patterson as a by law. I think his production is
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nowhere near what he can produce.
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I think after the Miller trade, no doubt its production goes up.
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It can't get any worse, right? He's been lackluster the whole
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season. Yeah, it really feels like it's
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off the ice. The issue not on the ice, Glenn
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Miller gone and his Four Nations break.
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I think that coming back from everything, I think Peterson
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will be up and running closer to where we expected him to be.
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Hmm. But I don't think you need to
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send like the level of players that you necessarily mentioned.
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I think rest of the season I personally prefer Natures over
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Peterson. I love natures too, but I I
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think that I'm much more comfortable taking taking.
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Everything. I think I'd also take Jarvis
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over Peterson, but I would trade to train Hurdle for Peterson.
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That's kind of draw the line. I don't think those other guys,
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that two other guys have been super consistent on a high level
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for long parts basically the whole season.
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If I had them, it'd be tough giving them away.
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For a guy that's like super volatile right now, you don't
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necessarily have a guarantee that he bounces back to where
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you need them to and they're producing near where he would
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bounce back to as well, right? So that's kind of like my train
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of thought there. Yeah, I think first of all, I
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think, I think I agree more than Kevin that Patterson is a great
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buy low. I've been targeting him for a
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while and I think if ever there's a time for him to start
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turning it around, it's going to be after the break, after
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military. You know, everything's the dust
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is settled, Quinn, he should be coming back.
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So that was a big, you know, maybe people were expecting to
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jump immediately, but the military kind of coincided with
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the queen was injury. So that's another reason why it
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could be a bouncing back and just time to, you know, kind of
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settle in with the two week break.
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So I fully agree. Great buy low in terms of the
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targets. I agree Duchene and hurdle easy.
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I'm taking Peterson over them. So I think those are great ones.
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I think I take natures over Peterson.
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I think I'm just just the trade. If it was nature on Caroline,
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I'm taking Peterson everyday, but nature is on Colorado
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playing with McKinnon. They've just been unreal
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together. So I think I would take over
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Peterson and then the Jarvis 1 I think close.
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I think if your league counts shorthanded points, then I might
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lean towards Jarvis. It really doesn't count short on
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points. I think it it's a lot closer.
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So I think that's kind of like the middle.
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But but yeah, I think Duchene and Hurdle are great ones and he
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just I think is good too much. Would you trade Horvat for
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Peterson? Yeah, easily.
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I think that's a name you can probably.
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I thought it was like I thought of that.
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I don't. Think anyone's taking Stamkos
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and trade? It's been good.
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Yeah, I would take Peterson. Over, but I don't know if that
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gets done. I think so.
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Yeah, I mean, they were both drafted high.
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Yeah, that's. Not performing super well.
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Yeah, Mark Stone. I would take Patterson.
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I would take Peterson, but Michael is just unreal.
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So getting to play with him is, yeah, it's pretty crazy.
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Yeah, it's close. What about a defenseman like
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same same as with yours, Kevin, Who do you think?
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Like would you take Ekblad or Peterson?
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I'll take Peterson over Ekblad. You'll take Peterson over
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explode when I'm trying to get rid of right now trying to sell
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high on his recent PowerPoint Yeah action.
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That could be a. Decent would take person over
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Sanderson. Peterson or Theodore?
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Peterson. I'll take Peterson.
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Yeah. OK.
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That's actually a good cross positional one.
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What about Werenski given the fact that Marchenko is hurt
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though? Right, I'm still taking.
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Conversation, Archer or Peterson?
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Peterson, I know you love Circuit Chef.
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Though, Yeah, yeah, I actually, as you're listing these names,
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I'm like, yeah, maybe you should try to offer a defenseman first,
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if you could do that. Yeah, it just depends on how
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your team is built and where you're kind of like you have
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more assets like you needed defenseman.
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Obviously don't trade defenseman for Peterson, right?
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Yeah, yeah. This is all interesting option.
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So yes, for Brett or Patterson. I think you can get Patterson
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plus for Brat and I would take Patterson.
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Patterson one for one. Yeah, I agree.
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I was. I guess I'm just lower than you
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guys. I just.
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I think Brad's gonna get more points than Peterson.
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Yeah, and I know. The issue with Peterson for me
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is that I like completely agreeing with the by law.
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Obviously right is that his category does not really like
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exceptional right. It's not really shooting much
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either. That's kind of what you would
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expect from his archetype of. Player.
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Like at least some shots to go along with the points, but the
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shots are. That's why I'm not willing to
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give up as high of a level of. Player.
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Exactly. If he had the if he had the back
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to go along with and if he was, if he had the back cats or at
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least just the shots but was missing the points, I feel a lot
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more confident. But the fact that we expect his
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points to go up but not necessarily a shots makes him a
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lot, you know, less valuable. Do you think as he gets better,
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do his shots come up? Yeah.
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Naturally, yeah, but I don't. Think he's been a decent goal
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scorer? I still think he's gonna be
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under three shots a game. That's fine though 2.5 because.
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I mean, right now he's like 1.71.8, which is really.
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Bad 188 on the season. Yeah, yeah, Recently it's not
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been very good, yeah, that's for sure.
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But also he wasn't playing. For last year he was at two
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point. 5 Is he playing for Sweden?
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He should. I think so, yeah.
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Yeah. So if that's the case, I mean,
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maybe that can help us call. Please get back.
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I just, I like it as a concept and I think that like the
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formula is there. I will say, not giving anything
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away, I was gonna mention your cell high as one of the targets
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as well. But I feel like we're getting
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into game Vilardi territory. Like I was like, OK, I see his
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name everywhere, right. Yeah.
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So, yeah. This is just the best seller.
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I saw this and I was. Looking number one, it's.
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Crazy. It's crazy.
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OK. So jealous you got to it first.
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Segue time. Yeah, that's what happens when I
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prepare the doc have to put in my choices first, you know?
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So yeah, perfect segue into our cell highs.
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I'll start with mine. My cell high, and I think this
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is the best sell high currently by far, is Dylan Guenther.
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Yeah, I did not realize how insane he's been, but he came
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back from injury and has just been absolutely unreal since his
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return. He's literally ranked number one
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in our league in the past month with 1.75 points per game .5
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power play points, 5.75 shots. On goal, that's.
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Disgusting and 1.5 hits that's. Crazy.
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That's number two players. Combined are insane in every
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single category and there's no way he maintains this pace.
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No, to compare on the season he has .93 points per game, .41
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power play points, 2.75 shots and .6 hits.
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I expect him to be around a point per game play a player and
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closer to three shots on goal and not many hits rest of the
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season. Utah has an OK playoff schedule,
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playing four times in week 23, but only three times in week 22
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and 24. So if you can flip him for a top
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guy on a team with a better playoff schedule, now's a great
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time. Just everything about what he's
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doing right now screams regression.
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Yeah. And it's just, it's these
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numbers are just, like, honestly a bit comical with how insane
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they are. So you there's no way someone's
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not gonna bite on this. Yeah, so that's someone was
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almost me the other. Day.
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Yeah, they. Kept trying to trade for him as
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I have. You caused this, Yeah.
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I haven't been another league and I'm so happy, right?
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Now, but yeah, so some good targets that from that one for
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one are coal, coal fields, Jason Robertson, Matt Boldy and Tim
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Stutzel. Great targets.
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All four of these guys have four games in Week 23 and Week 24, by
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the way. But also know where, know what
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you're holding as well and try to get the best deal possible.
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I think the best guy out of here that I would want is Jason
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Robertson. For sure.
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And I like the other guys. It's yeah, for sure would
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rather. But I think you could aim higher
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than the other ones. You think so?
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I think it's possible. First of all, it would have to
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be the manager not understanding the playoff schedule element.
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So that's the first thing I think.
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Yeah, that's just mentioned as a bylaw like that's.
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What about Rantanen? If you could swing that, that's
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like 3 to the year I think. Like fully though, yeah, like,
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you know, like I, I think that that's what I'm saying because
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it would be. Higher is better than the rest
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of the season. I don't think so.
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I think there is a world. So I'm the lowest on him, but I
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still prefer to take Ranjan. It's.
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Just so much more relaxing. There's a world I think maybe
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like a 5% chance. I think 5 to 10%.
18:51
Chance that everything in the world can.
18:52
Happen there's a. There's a world where there's a
18:56
world. Kettle has a better rest of
18:57
season, McDavid Yeah, we did. Not this world, but.
19:02
There's no world that happened. If you believe in an infinite
19:06
universe, there still isn't 1. But so that's it.
19:10
I think you could aim for like the rant and territory.
19:13
Great targets though. I just think like and would
19:15
settle for this. Like don't get.
19:16
Me wrong. If I had Gunther, I probably
19:18
wouldn't want Coffield Plus. Yeah, I would want Bold Plus for
19:22
Robertson. I do it one for one.
19:23
Thing is that we all know this is not going to be maintained.
19:26
These numbers are just absurd, and if you're dealing.
19:30
With your shot at this. Point if you're dealing with
19:32
other people who kind of like, you know, aren't blown like
19:35
flat, like blown away by past two weeks type of thing, you
19:38
know, like they're going to see this and be like, this is
19:41
clearly not sustainable. You know, yeah.
19:43
So I didn't wanna shoot for guys too high.
19:44
Like his ownership percentage is still like 68%, which first of
19:47
all is insane. Like when a guy putting up these
19:49
numbers, he should be in the 80s or at least, you know, but like,
19:52
he still isn't that big name. He's a new guy.
19:54
He just came back from injury. So the few, it's not like the
19:57
biggest sample size. It really depends who you're
19:59
dealing with. Shoot for the stars.
20:01
But here's the guys I named are the guys that I'd be like
20:03
willing to quote UN quote, settle for.
20:05
I mean all rest of the scene I probably take all the guys you
20:08
listed for sure is just about extracting the most value.
20:10
But listen. But you just gotta bite the
20:12
bullet and maybe you're not getting.
20:14
If he's got too much time negotiating, his numbers are
20:17
gonna drop while he regresses so.
20:19
But we have a two week break, so it has.
20:20
A good I think it would be a like a nice question.
20:22
Also, the other way is like, who's the lowest you would go?
20:25
You know what I mean? Yeah.
20:26
So like, I can't believe we're saying it again, but would you
20:29
trade for Gabe Full Hardy? No, no, no, no.
20:32
Alright, saw that? Crazy.
20:34
On the season, .93 for Gunther and .91 for Velardi.
20:38
I love Velardi, but he had. The shots are obviously
20:40
positively skewed because of his.
20:42
Insane multiple tiers apart in my opinion.
20:43
Really. I mean, if you look at it, it's
20:45
not that, I mean. Super low on keyboard.
20:47
I'm not as low. I love Filardi so.
20:49
Pretty I like. It but it's really just the back
20:53
cats that make it I think. Not close to me.
20:55
So, fine, let me let me give you some names.
20:58
I'm going to go across the board a little bit.
21:00
Would you trade in for Matthew Chuck?
21:01
Yeah, obviously. But Matthew Truck with the
21:03
playoff schedule, What on? Earth I would still take it
21:05
with. The talk about a tear break,
21:07
Yeah. Let me let me work my way down.
21:11
Let me work my way. Down you didn't have to start of
21:13
the stratosphere like. I mean, I think there's a lot of
21:16
players are better than Chris Season.
21:17
Yeah, but again, there's not one of.
21:18
Them. Yeah, obviously not.
21:20
Yeah, yeah, you're break. What about Trojan?
21:25
OK, that's that's good. I think because of how bad the
21:30
Rangers playoff schedule is, I would take Guenther over
21:33
Trocheck. Bangers League faceoffs and
21:36
taking charge. For sure.
21:37
Thing is that, and I'm gonna mention this in a lender code
21:40
with the with the playoff primer.
21:41
But back cats guys take the big banger.
21:44
Cats guys take the biggest hit from fewer games played because
21:47
they, you know, at the end of day, you need that number of
21:50
games played. No one's ever gonna double their
21:52
face off. Went to double their, you know,
21:53
I mean, it happens once in a while.
21:54
But you know, can get like 7 points in two games.
21:58
Much more likely than Trocheck is getting what?
22:00
Like 20 shots or something, you know, like 15 hits or whatever,
22:03
you know. So yeah, for sure, that's a good
22:06
point. That's a good point.
22:07
What about? What about Marsha So?
22:12
No, I would take Gunther I think.
22:14
I'm, I think Marshall so. That's that's close.
22:16
So I think. That better playoff schedule and
22:18
they're similar archetype of player already.
22:21
I think it's close. It's just that I'm really low on
22:23
Nashville so and I think March. So it's kind of a buy high right
22:27
now. So that's a.
22:28
That's why I don't. I wouldn't target.
22:30
Marshall, Brandon Hagel rest of the season.
22:32
No, I'm taking Hagel. I don't think you can do that,
22:34
even though I don't think you can sender for Hegel such a
22:38
monster. The same tier as the guy.
22:40
Some of the guys I listed, I think he's the same tier as like
22:42
a Robertson or a Goldie. It would take care of it.
22:48
Bangers. League.
22:49
These are reasonable. Yeah, Technika out take for
22:51
sure. Yeah, this is good though,
22:53
because we're kind of like breaking it down to like the
22:55
lowest you go. So of like everyone like I guess
22:58
the neck is a good one. No, no, I take.
23:00
It there? OK, that's where the locals.
23:02
Yeah. So what is it, Eric Snack and
23:04
Bedard? It's kind of like that, which
23:07
just takes. Has actually been awful this
23:08
year. But Lucas Raymond.
23:11
I'm thinking at this point we can name every player, but yes,
23:15
that's fair. Like that's absolutely fair.
23:17
But Raymond's been good. Unreal too, yeah.
23:20
He's actually, that's a good one, Kevin.
23:22
OK. Last one on that.
23:23
One I would take through. Would probably take Raymond.
23:26
But oh, Detroit is a really tough playoff schedule.
23:28
Not to use that as a cop out, but yeah, they they have.
23:31
Two games they both do right? So does.
23:32
Utah. No, again, there doesn't have a
23:34
bad 1. He just doesn't have a great
23:35
one. Yeah.
23:36
OK, Anyway, yeah, it we could, we're going.
23:40
OK. Fair warning to the to the
23:41
listeners, that's probably going to be the most time we're going
23:43
to spend on cell high of the next thing.
23:45
So. Good.
23:46
I mean, these numbers are just insane, Yeah.
23:48
So I mean, it's good to really flesh out the kind of landscape
23:52
of where you kind of would situate in the rest of season.
23:54
Because when you see a guy producing at this level, Yeah,
23:56
literally the best player in fantasy over the last, what is
23:58
it month? Yeah.
23:59
Yeah. And he's only played four games.
24:01
What you're willing to get, where you could get what you
24:04
should. Get I think it's your
24:05
responsibility as a fantasy owner if you have Gunther to
24:08
trade him right now. I think I think not trading him
24:10
is might be the biggest mistake he'll make in the season.
24:12
And it's not because he's not gonna be good rest of season,
24:14
it's because the numbers he's putting up are just absurd.
24:16
Natures. Yeah, take Natures I.
24:17
Think I'll take natures too. Matches is hot right now though
24:20
he's yeah, you might not be able to do.
24:22
That thing you really wanna stretch success you want to
24:25
stretch the Vilosell high you gotta go for one of those guys
24:27
who's like low you know that's the scariest one to do when a
24:30
guide this I. Think coffee is one of the
24:33
lowest I would go, yeah. Yeah, in that league that I have
24:36
him, I have him as a last round keeper, otherwise I'd be.
24:39
Oh yeah, this is we're all talking.
24:41
About here, if it's redraft like yes you have a complete
24:44
responsibility as a banger management listener, exact
24:47
billing. For a good return though.
24:49
Yes, all right. All right, Kevin, let's.
24:52
Move on to yours, which is also good.
24:54
Yeah, it's not as exciting as mine.
24:57
As exciting as the. No.
25:00
But OK, so my pick is a guy I've kind of hated on for a lot of
25:04
this year, but it is Mika Zibanejad of the New York
25:07
Rangers. So as a manager, thus far, this
25:09
year has been a disappointment for fantasy and has far from
25:12
delivered on his draft day value.
25:13
He's been a bylaw for us in the past.
25:15
But I think as we inch closer to the fantasy playoffs, the
25:17
Rangers have arguably the worst playoff schedule.
25:18
And this blockbuster trade with JT Miller has completely
25:21
rejuvenated his fantasy value and has actually made him a
25:24
great fantasy asset right now. So if you look at his game log
25:27
these last two weeks, actually sick over the last two weeks,
25:30
he's at 1.33 points per game playing with JT and Panarin on
25:33
the same line. And I think everyone is very
25:34
excited that his fantasy value has come back to life.
25:37
And now is the perfect time to capitalize on that and get a
25:39
good player that may not necessarily be as good in the
25:42
short term, but that will ultimately, ultimately be better
25:45
in the fantasy playoffs because schedule is a huge factor,
25:48
right? So I think some of the guys I
25:51
listed, I aimed really high, working my way down as well.
25:54
So I said if you can flip for rent in right now, we just saw
25:57
him be part of it right? That didn't work out for his
25:59
fantasy value currently. Maybe you can swing that.
26:02
I think Britain point would be the ultimate like flip to a
26:05
better centre. I wouldn't for cold coffee
26:08
mentioned as a bio, I would trade for Adrian Kempe who we
26:11
mentioned as Bilo. Nick Suzuki who is on the Habs
26:14
have a great playoff schedule who is also slumping.
26:16
I think all these guys are are trade targets for your for your
26:19
pure seem because of Majid who is currently playing right wing
26:22
with JT Miller and Panera and I think now is really the time to
26:27
trade him as the bumping his value is tremendous.
26:30
It's always nice when I like a buy low becomes as I.
26:34
Yeah. Yeah, it's like we, we know we
26:36
did our jobs. Well, this has happened a few.
26:38
Times, but The thing is, I think that he will probably average
26:41
over point per game for the rest of the season is just right now
26:45
you gotta flip that for a better playoff schedule because if he's
26:47
on your team come to fantasy championship like he's gonna be
26:50
a detriment to your squad when the other guy has somebody
26:52
playing four games instead of two in that same roster.
26:55
Spot. Would you take Patterson?
26:56
Elias Patterson? I would.
26:58
I would too. You wouldn't probably would.
27:00
Yeah, I know. I feel you can aim higher
27:02
though, that's the thing. Yeah, I just because imagine has
27:05
name value because I was. Full When I saw this, I was like
27:08
Suzuki Patterson. That's like a definitely a
27:10
question mark. I don't know why, I'm just like
27:12
has it on Peterson specifically because to me, on blonde hair,
27:16
the blue eyes, usually I'd be smitten, but I'm more of a
27:18
brunette kind of guy. Yeah, no, I agree with
27:23
everything you said. Like the biggest thing is the
27:25
playoff schedule. But also like what I like about
27:28
a guy like this is normally if you try and sell a guy who's had
27:32
an awful season and then a hot two weeks, everyone is going to
27:34
laugh at you and be like, OK, you're just trying to capitalize
27:36
on this two weeks. But when there's a specific
27:38
event that happened that could use to explain it, which is the
27:41
JT Miller trade, it makes it a lot more plausible and a lot
27:43
more doable of a trade. So I do think this bump is not
27:47
some blip. You know, I think the JT Miller
27:48
trade genuinely did make Savannah out a lot better, if a
27:51
fancy. Asset.
27:52
He's gonna be good. He's gonna be good.
27:53
He's not gonna be this good. And his playoff schedule sucks.
27:55
So for those reasons, like you mentioned, great, sell high.
27:59
I like all your I'll take all your targets over Zibanejad.
28:02
I think. I think you guys are too low on
28:04
Rantanen like I know. You think it's not even a
28:06
conversation to get that started?
28:08
I just think that I'm. Liking your rent on an owner you
28:10
know, having his treated, his finally getting fucked.
28:13
I just think that it's too it's too don't think any experienced
28:18
owner who owns Rantanen, like any experienced fantasy player
28:21
is not trying to sell on Rantanen.
28:23
Yeah, you don't sell low on a top five guy like that like a
28:26
week and 1/2 when he's played like 5 games on his new team,
28:29
you know, especially with the two week break and the whole,
28:31
you know, him getting click settled in and all that.
28:33
Like I just don't see it. But at the end of the day, some
28:36
people are impatient and they're and they're gonna see his awful
28:39
points. And again, when there's a clear
28:40
event that could point to the drop, it makes it a lot better
28:43
of a discussion point. So it's possible.
28:46
I think it's a stretch point would be awesome.
28:48
I think that's the other than Rantin.
28:49
That's definitely the best one of the group.
28:52
And then campaign, Cofield, Suzuki, I think are all are all
28:54
solid. And I also see that now as
28:56
benefits align 3 centre. Is that like a recent
29:00
development? I don't think that's true.
29:03
OK, 'cause I was gonna say if that's the case.
29:05
Where are you seeing the daily face off?
29:07
How accurate is lined up from 1? February 9th So like the last
29:13
day of games before the. Break It might have just been a
29:16
weird update from daily phase of the Four Nations breaking.
29:18
Yeah, what I'm saying that could be conducive to your to your
29:22
argument because he's been so good recently.
29:23
Yeah, if he goes down to line 3, centre even.
29:25
Though yeah, obviously his values different if he's on.
29:28
Line. And I will say even if that's
29:30
not true, when you said it, I was like, I could see that
29:32
happening. Why the reasoner?
29:33
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Doing that makes them an amazing
29:36
team but hinders his fantasy value.
29:38
So the truth is though. Sure, but they like to shuffle
29:41
around their lines and like more balanced lines.
29:43
You know, like. They've done that when they they
29:45
needed a spark. Now they got a spark.
29:47
Why are you mixing it? Up.
29:48
I'm just saying that I don't think it would be the craziest
29:50
thing to say. That no, I don't.
29:51
Trust the Season 17 ends up as a Line 3 centre, so definitely
29:55
it's now time to sell. Him like players are it's a lot
29:58
easier to play wing than centre like so let's responsibility
30:02
exactly so I mean if he does have that opportunity playing
30:05
his wing, obviously it's gonna go up but even if this isn't
30:09
necessarily accurate, we'll have to see at the end of.
30:11
The ultimate reason to try to get him off?
30:12
Cross dressing, yeah. If that does happen then like,
30:15
yeah, if it goes back to centre, obviously he's gonna regress.
30:17
It's just natural. So that's good.
30:19
Yeah, it's a great choice, absolutely.
30:22
OK, who's the lowest starter? Who's the lowest you would try
30:24
to sell them for? Did you have anybody in mind?
30:28
Um, Suzuki is a decent one. Yeah, it's.
30:32
Pretty pretty slumpy lately. Duchane.
30:35
Yeah, I would take to Shane. I had to sign in before but I
30:38
feel like that was maybe too low.
30:40
I think you can get Duchene plus or Suzuki plus.
30:43
You get wide Johnston? Probably not.
30:45
I don't think so. Maybe.
30:46
But exactly like Jackson neck. That's a good one.
30:49
What about Gunther? The turntable?
30:53
Yeah. I don't think you can get Gunter
30:55
at this point. Probably not.
30:56
Yeah. Crazy.
30:59
Anyways, yeah, go for your picture.
31:02
Yeah, it's, it's a good question though.
31:04
Maybe Lucas Raymond, as you mentioned him last time.
31:07
Would you take I'd rather have Brandon Russell managed.
31:10
But I'd rather have Raymond Russell.
31:12
I mean, once you take out. There's a manager, yeah.
31:15
That's a fair line, though. That's fair line anyway.
31:17
OK, my cell high is also not gonna make everyone around me
31:23
happy, right? Because being controversial
31:26
things to justify really hard. It's good.
31:29
It's good. It makes it more fun.
31:31
But yeah, it is Tom Wilson on the Washington Capitals, in case
31:36
we were confusing him with the other Tom Wilson.
31:40
Thank you for the clarification. So you're always in the name of
31:43
your your guys team. So I was like, you know what,
31:45
let me let me take a play out of Kevork playbook.
31:48
You killed it. Yeah, thanks guys.
31:49
So this is a banger league stud and he always has been,
31:52
especially in a league that values Pimms.
31:54
Although recently, like especially this year, he's
31:57
transitioned more to skilled role as opposed to just shots,
32:01
hits and Pimms, which has been in the past, like his pimps have
32:03
taken a huge dive. This has been a career pace for
32:07
him as far as points per game goes, and although that can
32:10
largely be a function of him staying out-of-the-box more um,
32:15
the 1.17 points per game over the last two weeks, which is
32:20
fueled by 1.33 over the past week.
32:22
So obviously that up to two last two weeks, that pace is just way
32:27
over what his points per game is going to be the rest of the
32:29
season. And I think that you can use
32:31
this line one power play, one placement as something that's
32:33
going to make him more enticing to people, especially because of
32:36
his reliable double double. So yeah, I would definitely aim
32:40
high from selling him. I just think that you should
32:44
expect a solid points regression towards the .7 range.
32:48
And yeah, this is a tough sell because of his archetype.
32:51
It's very unique. But I think that if you aim for
32:54
points, you can get an upgrade or get an upgrade for Bangor
32:57
specifically. So these are mainly points, guys
33:00
that I think I would just rather you got Kempe, Elias Peterson,
33:06
Stutzel and William Nylander. So what do we think?
33:11
I like Kevin. Go first.
33:12
I'll let you go first. OK, so I have some mixed
33:16
feelings about this as a Tom Wilson owner in a bangers
33:19
league. So first of all, I think it's
33:21
just it's very controversial in itself to sell Tom Wilson in a
33:25
banger league because he's arguably one of the best bangers
33:29
you could get in terms of the power forward archetype.
33:31
There's not many guys that fit that playstyle.
33:35
Yeah, completely agree. He's not gonna average 1.33
33:37
points per game for the rest of the season, but I think .75 is
33:41
realistic. He's been on line 2 the whole
33:42
year, on PP1 the whole year. Now he's playing line 1 which is
33:46
honestly is even better. He's getting exposure to OV, but
33:50
I think he's just been extremely consistent from the start of the
33:53
season all the way until now. Washington has a great playoff
33:56
schedule. So I think it would really need
33:58
to take somebody really enticing for me as a Tom Wilson owner to
34:03
want to trade him away because of how unique is in terms of his
34:07
category coverage. Like there's not many guys that
34:09
are hitting shots, hits Pimms at times, blocks, also power play
34:15
points and just goals and assists as well, right?
34:18
He covers everything, Yeah. Like in our league is ranked
34:21
like 24th, which is just, you know, it just goes to show how
34:24
special he is for a guy that wasn't drafted in, like, the top
34:26
two rounds. Yeah, I think you can like the
34:30
guys you mentioned. I'm not taking Elias Patterson
34:32
over him in a bangers league, not taking William Nylander
34:36
because of the playoff schedule. Like Washington plays, what,
34:39
four times in the finals? Toronto plays twice.
34:42
I I just, I don't know if I can swing that.
34:46
Yeah, Washington plays at 334. Yeah.
34:48
So would you take? Stitzel, Stitzel is the is the
34:51
guy that I think he he has enough banger kind of foundation
34:54
that I wouldn't mind switching off because I do think still
34:57
takes gets more points for rest of the season campaign like a
35:00
lot as well. That's more of a yeah, I would
35:03
take Tempe for Tom Wilson. I think that's just like it
35:07
feels scary to do, but it probably is a win.
35:10
But not Patterson or Nylander for me.
35:13
So this is tough because once you have an amazing banger guy
35:16
on your team. And this is just so valuable.
35:18
Very foundational and I understand sacrificing for
35:20
points makes it very difficult because then you have to replace
35:23
the bank accounts. So I understand that, but I just
35:27
think that his points are so much higher than they should be
35:32
right now. Like I think that Wilson, he's
35:35
been this season. 75 on the season he's been on 0.7.
35:39
Five I know, but he's never scored more than 1.65 in his
35:42
entire career and he's 30, so I think he ends the season.
35:46
Let me just verify this. He's currently.
35:48
Going on this. OK, we'll see.
35:51
So he has 42 points in 55 games I think.
35:57
Can I go 65? No, you said 60.
36:00
I think, OK, so that means if there is an injury then I still
36:03
win. What do you mean?
36:05
That means that if he gets injured, it's not that this bet
36:06
gets voided. Sure, OK.
36:08
I think he ends the season with under 60. .5 points.
36:14
That ain't me. But yeah, I think this season
36:16
was 60 points. I think it's under 60 or 6060.
36:19
Is the the Max 60 or less? So you're above 60.5.
36:24
Sounds like a beer bet. To yeah, I think that's a beer.
36:27
Best 60.5. He has in the past, he hasn't
36:30
been on PP1 and he also hasn't had this kind of deployment.
36:34
Yeah, that's fair. And look, I mean, he's a great
36:37
player in his own right. He's just when you went off
36:40
injury, just put that. Into the I'm just I'm just
36:44
saying that I think it's like it's not Even so bad they've
36:47
played 55 games this year. So for an 82 game pace, he's on
36:51
pace for 63 points, which is good that's fine that's not 1.17
36:57
though. That's obviously like, you know
36:59
what I. Mean you're not selling the
37:01
reason why Tom Wilson is a conversation.
37:03
Obviously the points are above expected, but it's category
37:05
coverage is still where it should be, and where it's
37:08
supposed to be has been as well. So you think you're getting
37:12
higher? Or do you think you just don't
37:13
tell them and just chill? I just think in a bangers league
37:15
it's really tough to get rid of a player that's that's of this
37:18
archetype, especially if you have Pimms as well as a good
37:22
line I think. But still, like of these guys,
37:25
I'm pretty sure Kempe hits more than still at this point.
37:28
It depends. But also has a better playoff
37:30
schedule. Yeah, so that also plays a
37:32
factor. I think Sutil should get more
37:35
than a point per game rest of season.
37:37
My thoughts on this are I'm not sure how much of a cell high he
37:41
is just because the points is only the last two weeks.
37:44
Usually when I like saying a guy's a cell high, like I like
37:47
that the I agree that the points are going to regress from his
37:50
last two, his two weeks average, but I like when it's like a full
37:53
month of him overperforming before I call it a sell high.
37:56
But if we go off the past two weeks average, like you said,
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definitely he's not going to get this many points.
38:00
So he's definitely performing higher than I think he's going
38:03
to rest this season. If we look at the targets,
38:05
though, everything I said with him being foundational and hard
38:07
to trade for a pure points guy, I like Studzi, like Kempe.
38:11
I think that even with the playoff schedule, I think it
38:14
would be crazy not to take Nylander.
38:16
I think Nylander, like I think you're underestimating just
38:18
cause he's only been a point per game over the over the season,
38:21
but like he should be like 1.2 points per game guy and a .5
38:25
like points difference with like the power play points
38:27
difference, I think is enough to lose the hits because Nylander
38:31
shoots too. So it's not like you're losing
38:32
the shots. It's really just the hits and
38:34
pins there. So I think Nylander is a strong
38:36
enough 1. Patterson, I don't blame you for
38:37
not wanting and I I think that's that's the toughest one just
38:40
because even though I agree with Jackie Peterson's bi lo, when
38:45
you're doing such a big shift of a guy who is such a foundational
38:48
piece, you need a guarantee in return.
38:49
You're not gonna, you're already taking a risk giving up a
38:52
foundational piece. You can't make it a double risk
38:54
by also going for a risky guy. So in that sense I agree with
38:57
you so. Would you take Jake Guentzel?
38:58
Yeah, I. Would take so.
39:00
That's one point per game, similar to Nielander.
39:02
One, that's why I think. Doesn't have two games in the
39:05
championship week. That's the difference.
39:06
Right. Yeah, that's true.
39:08
Yeah. So, OK, you're saying that like
39:13
you can agree that it's like a good time to sell them because
39:15
of the points have been so good. Yeah.
39:17
I mean, I just don't think this is a better time to sell them as
39:19
like, like crazy. It's not crazy like good time to
39:22
sell them like it's not like he's like.
39:24
It's only been two weeks. If he maintains this like one
39:27
over point per game pace for like another two weeks, I'd be
39:29
like huge cell. High.
39:30
I don't think it's gonna point game player for the rest of the
39:32
season. Yeah, that's not what I'm
39:34
saying. That's the stabilizer, you know
39:36
what I mean? Yeah.
39:37
What point are we like? OK, I like when it's lost.
39:39
When it's a month, that's when I call.
39:41
That's when I'm happy with the sample size being.
39:42
Like, but I don't, I don't mind selling a guy who's been hot for
39:45
two weeks if, you know, they were also like doing good at
39:48
other things. Too, But it's like normally
39:49
wouldn't be. Doing.
39:50
Yeah, exactly. Like, it's not like Tom Wilson
39:53
is shooting and hitting way more than he's supposed to be selling
39:56
him on, like, expecting to regress, Like he's already doing
39:59
good at those things. He's not doing better at what
40:02
he's already supposed to be good at.
40:04
Like it's really just. One point worse at Pimms,
40:06
actually, but that's the whole thing with the Pimms.
40:09
I'll take the increased production.
40:11
And I know you won't actually be able to pull it off like maybe
40:13
Wilson plus for Brady to Chuck. Especially because I would
40:16
consider that to make that happen.
40:18
I just don't even think that was possible.
40:19
I don't think it's in the realm of possibility could Chuck is
40:21
pretty much untouchable. He he's been awful for points
40:24
and he's just. Trades where it looks like crazy
40:27
to be honest. Like I've seen 2 for twos with
40:28
Brady ketchup in them. Like it just makes no sense.
40:30
Yeah. Yeah, but it's not the worst
40:32
offer because it's a similar. Archetype in very competitive
40:34
leagues like that's not going to happen.
40:37
Yeah, it depends what the plus is, but yeah, I see what you're
40:39
saying. They're upset up for our Week
40:42
19. Buy low, sell high.
40:44
Episode trade Tom Wilson and special for Brady.
40:46
That's like a fun idea. I would definitely take a Chuck.
40:50
That's you think that's a really good idea?
40:52
Done. I don't think you can get that
40:54
done, no. No, I think that's.
40:56
Oh my gosh, we're so close. Me.
41:00
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't think there's any
41:03
chance he accepts that I offered.
41:05
I'm talking in our league specifically.
41:06
I offered equal plus for ketchup and he said no plus.
41:09
I mean, it wasn't much, but Michael's.
41:11
Doing but fashion Tom Wilson is like a serious, serious trade
41:14
and I love Michael, don't get me wrong.
41:15
I mean, he's an upgrade for all these points guys that I
41:17
mentioned, but I think that that can be serious because you're
41:20
getting a lot of like, you know, to Chuck in the Wilson back
41:25
already. You're just getting more
41:26
reliability. Yeah.
41:27
That's not a bad idea. I don't think there's any.
41:29
Chance those guys could arguably get more points than Brady, yes.
41:32
Points wise. Yeah, there you could, huh?
41:35
Something to ponder. I'm definitely pondering.
41:39
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