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They Built a Shul With No Rabbi. Ohr Shlomo Changed My Life · None of Your Business Podcast

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  I'm going to make a lachaim to you guys.
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  This is Lachaim to some of the founders of Arshlomo Guten
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  Khodash. I mean, it's pretty apropos that
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  you guys are here on Rushkhodash, right?
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  That's his. That's his word.
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  Apropos. Yeah, that's your word.
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  That's his word. Do you have a word?
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  Only words that he can spell. Word.
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  Word facetious. Facetious.
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  Nice. That's a good word.
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  I have a proclivity to be facetious.
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  Oh my God. Proclivity is that.
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  Is that a real word? Yeah.
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  Stop it. No, but tell him.
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  This guy? Come on.
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  Kidding me? Proclivity.
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  Proclivity. David, What's proclivity?
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  Proclivity is. You know what?
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  I think he should go for that explanation too, no?
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  No, we need you. We need.
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  Myself and David, we grew up in Brooklyn.
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  We don't know how to spell past 6th grade so.
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  I think proclivity is a tendency.
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  A tendency. Yeah.
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  Like a tendency to do something correct, OK.
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  So it's like a Natia A? What?
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  Natia I. Don't know what Natia is.
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  A tendency? Oh.
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  All right, it's going to be fun. All right, let's get started.
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  Welcome back, everybody to another incredible episode of
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  the None of Your Business podcast.
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  I'm your host, Michael Greenfield.
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  Today is a very special episode. I am here with the founders of R
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  Shlomo. I, I, I feel like I should say
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  it again. You know I won't like that,
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  right? I'm not getting that.
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  I'm here with the founders of R Shlomo.
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  Yeah, yeah. Eric Santer.
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  OK. It's the marketing guy behind
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  this tunic center. We'll get what's that?
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  It says it in the Yamaka. Yeah, it says on the shirts, on
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  the Yamakas and the underwear, I'm sure.
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  And one day it'll be on our wall next to thank you.
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  If you have a sticker, it'll go on our wall.
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  Where's the Ask Tomer sticker? That's what that's my commitment
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  to you. So guys, we have David Stein
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  behind the scenes. David and I knew each other
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  since Brooklyn and we'll get into that in a minute.
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  We have Abe race, Avrama Levy, Famous Race, Brothers of Muncie
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  excited, Shmili Indig and of the Indig family, the Indig excited
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  to get into it. Thank you to our subscribers,
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  our comments. We'll get more into that at the
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  end. We just want to get right into
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  it right now, guys. Arsh Lomo Mamas changed my life.
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  It Mamas changed my life. Do you get that a lot?
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  Mamas changed my life. Yeah, it keeps on changing our
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  lives. It's not something that we we
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  planned on. It just happens every day.
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  It happens, it evolves. It's like it's like the world
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  gets recreated every day or Shalom will just happens.
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  Wow, OK, I like it. I want to go back a minute to
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  something that happened to me yesterday.
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  I met a group of seven guys and we were at an event called the
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  Spot 42 event. You guys ever go there?
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  You ever unwind and go to Spot 42?
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  Sure. Yeah, that's.
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  Amazing spot. Amazing, amazing spot.
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  For those of you that don't know, it's a hidden gem in
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  Monroe, NY. A guy owns a house, bought acres
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  behind him, turned it into an enclave.
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  A beautiful resort style spa, schvitz, men's Playhouse, and he
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  designs it with animals and greenery and it's just
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  fantastic. I mean, what's your favorite
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  part about that place? Guys?
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  Restaurant. The food is delicious.
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  Food's delicious. True.
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  I like the swimming pool that it's big and heated always.
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  I'll be honest. I don't think I've ever been in
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  the pool. Yeah, I don't think I've ever
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  been in the pool either. I swim guys.
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  That's that's my thing, but it no, it's, it's a pretty cool
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  place. It happens to be.
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  Amazing. Yeah, it's.
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  Five to seven hours over there. I go from 11:00 to 11:00.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I, I work from there
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  all day. So, and I recommend anyone that
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  wants to unplug, and I'm sorry, I recommend everyone to unplug
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  and unwind. And if you want a place to do it
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  for $100 for the entire day where you can have a restaurant
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  and make new friends, Spa 42 is the place to be.
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  You can't even find it on Google, by the way.
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  It's like a hidden gem, so. So if you want to unplug and
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  then plug in to work all day. 11 to 11, very good David, thank
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  you. 11 to 11 is because I start from 11:00 to like 2-3 o'clock
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  and I get my work done and then I, you know, I'm gradually go
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  back and forth. What do you say you sit in the
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  upstairs all upstairs. Nice.
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  I think that I have to say that's sort of like how I I like
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  to live my life. I'm curious about how you guys
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  live yours. I want to get into that, which
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  is I'm always on, right? So it's just that I know how to
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  turn off and then go back on and turn off anyway.
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  So I'm, I'm an environment of a pool or a spa or a beach or
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  anywhere, a lounge, a coffee house, right?
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  So it's just you can unwind, shut your phone off for an hour
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  completely given to your surroundings, right?
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  So I met these guys there and a group of seven guys and they
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  were all friends, all seven of them.
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  And they invited me to be the 11th.
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  Why do I say 11th? Because they already have a
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  group of 10 friends and they're all into it spiritually.
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  How they're a million of friends and they feed off each other's
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  energies and they help each other.
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  And I said I, I said like I wasn't even ashamed of it.
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  And I said, guys, I don't need it.
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  I have Orschlomo and they're like, what's Orslomo?
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  And I'm like, it's what you have here, but on a higher level
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  spiritually with more people like minded.
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  And it's something that just doesn't get turned on just for
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  rush Kodesh. It's like a lifetime of thing,
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  but being at Rosh Khodesh is tomorrow, I want to hear from
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  one of you guys who was the first person to get involved in
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  Orschelomo. How did this Orscheloddish thing
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  come aboard, come about? Just which one of you?
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  Abe. Abe.
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  So Orschelomo started really as a as a Karl Bachmannian in in
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  Pomona. Michael Most Michael Most.
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  Yeah, 2005 shout out. And it's gone through many
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  different stages over the years and different people who it's
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  because it's not like anyone. It's not a one person show.
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  It's a Hashem show. So it's it's been gone through
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  many different from Michael to where were we?
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  Second Aaron Cohen. Aaron Cohen.
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  Aaron Cohen. Aaron Cohen, by the way, shout
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  out to Aaron. Before he moved to Israel, he
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  spoke only Hebrew. You guys remember this?
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  Well, you have to speak Hebrew if you want to be a cop.
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  He's a cop there. Get out of here.
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  In Renana. He's a local, Yeah.
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  He joined the Javier of Renana. That's amazing.
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  I love that for him. He's a.
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  Real cover. Yeah, so then we love him.
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  So then Aaron got involved right in a trans.
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  Aaron I'm I'm this is really like we're was hosted, I guess
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  right the. Idea came from what?
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  What was the concept to begin with the concept?
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  Was Michael moved in and he was very interrupt Shlomo and he
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  used to slept me to dabble with him in other shoes and then
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  really started one week in a fellow by by Harold Weber one
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  week. How do I used to host a Friday
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  night minion every week. One week he was out of town.
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  We ended up dabbing him by somebody else.
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  I slept Michael. He's like, I'll come if it's a
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  callback minion. And then that kind of rolled
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  into once a month, that once a month davening Friday night,
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  which probably after one month became an every week thing.
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  And his wife graciously opened her house and we were davining
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  there for years. What?
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  Was the common denominator between everyone joining
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  throughout the process of the growth of.
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  Don't forget Steve Sklars, sorry.
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  Yeah, I didn't go through all the sure.
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  There were many others. I mean, they got involved.
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  There's only a few places that we were davining at.
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  Irrelevant to that, I'm curious about the common denominator
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  that everyone shared. What was anyone looking for?
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  What was everyone getting from comic theater?
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  What would you say? Singing.
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  Singing. Singing Tashem Davining should
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  be singing, said It's enjoyable, said it's It changed my life.
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  I mean, I started when I from when I started davening Nisar
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  Shlomo Friday night. It was a game changer.
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  You just say Nisar Shlomo. Yeah, you did.
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  You coin that phrase. No.
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  Someone else had that. At some point, somebody, I'm
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  sure I. Mean Nisar Shlomo.
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  What is Nisar Shlomo? If you had to say it?
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  Like explain. What it is Shlomo had a unique
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  way of davening where everything was singing.
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  I don't, I, I, I don't know that I can actually say what it is.
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  I know from my perspective it's, I'm, I guess 'cause Benzino
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  Solomon and sons put out an album, 2 albums, Friday night
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  davening and Shabbos day that was yeah, I took those, I
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  studied them and I learned how to, I learned the different
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  Laguna and do. You have a black book on these
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  things. There's no black book.
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  No, it's white. You have the white book on this
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  though. You have a book of songs and
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  stuff that you know your go TOS like you have that.
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  I have little cards that I use a lot.
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  Are you diving for them in tomorrow, for example?
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  So tell me like just take us through the dividing for those
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  that don't know, if you don't mind for a quick second.
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  I can't tell you necessarily no good and that we're going to
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  use, which is actually something we've been discussing recently
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  is that a lot of the Shabbos and the good and we've started using
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  during the week and to me I'm like, I want something different
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  for Shabbos. I say I cause I don't know about
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  everybody else. I can't answer for anyone else.
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  But like the the difference between weekday and Shabbos is
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  stark. But then I tell myself that
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  we're entering young school of Shabbos, so it's OK.
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  But yeah, but I don't know. I I try to spend different times
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  during the week to listen to listen to music.
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  That way it has an influence and when I'm dabbling different, I
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  know. The answer to this, but for our
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  listeners, if you don't mind me breaking it down for a second,
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  what's the first thing you guys sing in the morning?
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  Come in with Ani. When is everyone starting to get
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  into it? Yeah, that's amazing guys.
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  But that's when you start in the beginning, that's.
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  When? You get into shul.
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  Rabbi Schmal. Oh, Ravi Schmal, Ravi Schmal.
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  Right into the shave. But now.
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  Wow, what a way to start a day. There are guys that come in, put
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  on music in the morning. Modani.
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  Little shout out to Pampadisa. Yep, he's the best.
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  So that's, I mean, it's all about music.
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  Music opens up the soul. What did the flomo say about
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  music? Almost says when two people talk
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  at the same time you can't hear them, but when two people sing
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  at the same time. It's beautiful.
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  That really is beautiful. Like Belgiumptus says, like the
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  the music is the quill of the soul.
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  David, you're the only guy I know here between all of us that
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  has a background of music. I mean, you had a famous song,
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  for crying out loud. A few of them.
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  What was the one of the main ones?
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  The the, the Lalas. One of the Lalas.
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  What do we have? We had, I think I saw you once
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  on the in Miami. I saw you had like a Vasika
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  minion on the beach. I did, I did.
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  It wasn't me. There are people in Miami that
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  get together on the beach. It's one of the reasons I love
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  heading towards Miami in the winter.
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  It's diving on the beach with singing.
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  What else did you have? Give me another song.
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  Remind me? We had.
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  No, there was. Another one that was pretty
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  popular. Yeah, how old were?
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  You when you got into music. When I got into music, like,
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  like professionally, Yeah, 20. 5:00-ish and you made a career
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  out of it. Yeah, it's a short career, but
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  yeah. And then I had to get a real
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  job, obviously. But what was your job?
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  Right. Yeah, it was, yeah, for like 10
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  years. So.
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  You have a lot of experience in that industry for 10 years, 10
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  years. What's the most you ever made in
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  that era? Like for an event, like
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  something that you're like, wow, I made it 10 years, a long time.
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  It was Yeah, it was. I mean, you want me to say the
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  number? Yeah.
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  All right. Today it's nothing.
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  These guys are getting paid that.
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  These guys are getting paid that for weddings, you know what did
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  it mean? It was it was like 12 grand for
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  an. That's a.
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  That's a nice amount. You know you made it.
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  We got 12 grand for for a. Yeah.
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  Wow. OK, David, because you're at a
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  camera, you know, we're just not going to be able to stay on you.
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  But I'm kidding. I could do AI could do a
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  interview alone on each of you for hours because there's so
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  much depth and so much to learn from.
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  And our friend over here, Shmili, thought he's coming in
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  to talk about only Urschlomo. I'm like, we're going to unravel
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  you a little bit. We have to.
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  So we just talked about David for a second, his background
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  music. So I'm curious about you and
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  hey, we're going to get back to you in a minute.
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  How did you get involved in Urschlomo?
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  You have a see the background a little bit.
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  Yeah, and grew up Monroe, KCR. Take me through that please,
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  that journey real quick. Proud.
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  It's fun. I mean growing up in Monroe,
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  it's like a little village, a lot of fun growing up there as a
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  kid. But life took me to different
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  paths in different directions. And 2011 is when I kind of went
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  towards the breast lab route. There was got connected to a
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  Nachman. How old are you?
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  25 OK. So it's well past your days of
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  Monroe. Yeah.
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  Got it. Got married when I was 18.
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  Oh. There you go, There you go 2.
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  1000. And five unraveled this.
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  Game over here. Come on for. 21 years Rokersham.
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  I have shell from Barte. Amen Amen.
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  And then 25 Shabbos Kanika was my first Shabbos in Oman.
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  What made you go to Oman? A bunch of friends went and they
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  said hey, let's go. So we went to Oman, the whole
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  long story how I got, we got there in three days of cancelled
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  flights and breast was called Meneas.
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  What does that mean? Meneas means obstacles, sure.
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  But Meneas if you switch around the letters it, it turns into
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  naemus with sweetness. So it means the bigger the
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  obstacles, the bigger the sweetness going to be after.
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  So we had a lot of Meneas, but made it.
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  And from that Chavez my life changed.
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  I was, I still lived in Irmond at a time.
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  I helped Lipa build a shoe, famous Lipa shoe.
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  And when I moved to Pomona, I moved to Pomona for the Cobweff
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  minion I knew Abe from. When you were 13. 12 maybe?
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  How'd you guys know each other? Monroe, What are you talking
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  about? I was doing electric then and I
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  was doing work in Monroe for Shameli's father.
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  Real estate world, Yeah. Development.
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  Construction. Yeah.
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  Got it, Got it. But we didn't really know each
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  other back. Then no.
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  Wow. We got to know know each other
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  from the 711 years. Yeah, what was the 711 years?
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  I opened up the kosher heaven you.
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  Opened up the kosher heaven and 7:11 I mean.
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  You didn't know this when you asked him to come here.
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  The only kosher 711 hot dogs. How you doing?
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  Right. Fought with corporate for a year
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  and a half and I opened up 711 in 2012 I think.
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  Were you the first kosher thing for 7-11 in the country or
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  something? Yeah, it still is.
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  How'd how'd you pull that off and why is it the only one?
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  Why is the only one? I don't know.
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  I think it you need to you need to have the right ownership.
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  The right ownership in seven, Anthony in 711 was the right
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  owner for this pride in in, in Connecticut.
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  That's right in Brooklyn. Didn't work out.
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  Anthony is 711. He sold it.
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  It's not the same anymore, but he understood he has to get a
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  Jacob. He's married to a YID, so he has
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  to get a Jacob. So we made it work.
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  We made it work. And that's how I got to know Abe
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  from from 711. And I wanted to move to a place
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  where it's a big diverse crowd and the car buck menu was there.
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  So when I moved to Pomona, it was after 10 years in airman,
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  probably 5-6 years of being busy with Lipa shul.
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  I was like look, just looking like have a peaceful life, not
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  involved any shules. But after a few years at all,
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  they we got to do something in order to grow.
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  I felt that in order we should grow together, we need our own
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  place. So we when we looked at places
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  on the 45 under the which which school was that Nicholasburg
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  look at a bunch of places and we just decided that we just got to
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  got to jump in. We got to do it.
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  We rented a house. We just wanted to sing.
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  We wanted to dive in and sing and connect and grow.
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  So we rented a small house on one E 1 E Lane.
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  Avidan Moskowich lived there. Fast jump.
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  What? That's the fast jump.
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  That's it right there, right? Avidan Moskowich gave us away
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  his dining room, really, it was amazing.
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  His mom was selfless with some serious nappies for him.
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  And we were there for like a year and a half.
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  And it's about COVID time that we decided that I think the
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  owner of the house, yeah, the owner of the house that is
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  selling the house and we have to move.
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  I started looking around for houses and we did our first
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  fundraiser a week before COVID and then COVID hit and then
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  everything stopped. Everything stopped.
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  But we still, we had a lease already.
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  We signed the contract. No, we signed the contract to
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  buy the house, signed the contract to buy a three Wheeler
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  cord a few weeks before COVID, COVID hit.
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  Went to the to the seller and said, look, we're not going to
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  be able to close right away. Let's do our four year lease.
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  There are four year lease to buy and he was masking.
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  So that whole summer of 2020 without the David's house, David
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  Stein's house and then Elon Richland's house.
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  And then we moved in Shabbos Leafs, moved into the current
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  location Shabbos Leafs. We opened up the shul with a
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  bris Friday morning, get Dali Rauch's bris.
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  They opened up their breasts like a leonovi.
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  We felt like a Leonovi's coming to open up the show for us.
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  Then we had mushi storage. I think the Shabbos no was you
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  with the Salomon? You would have.
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  Salomon. You would have Salomon.
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  What's the Shabbos? About to get Tischer like Tishra
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  that year was. I'm sorry, Tishra, Tishra.
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  The month. The month.
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  I don't know, Yom Kippur I. Don't I don't work in Tishra.
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  Shauna Yom Kippur. OK OK Tishra is before lol.
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  Do you think? After.
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  After. I mean, it's 11 months before.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Guys, guys, cut me some slack here.
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  OK, so. So it's the best tissue you had.
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  I've never heard that term before in my life.
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  The best tissue you ever had? Yeah, OK.
• 20:12
  Yeah. I've had some mad LS but tissue
• 20:15
  I'm sure. And the rest is history.
• 20:19
  Just spiral out of control. I mean, we always joke within
• 20:24
  each other. We didn't go to shul school A.
• 20:27
  Little bit maybe? We didn't go to shul school to
• 20:29
  know how to run a shul or how to run a community, but we're
• 20:34
  learning on the job. A sham wants this from us.
• 20:37
  We we just wanted to sing Bad Avening.
• 20:40
  All of a sudden you have to take care of this and there's a whole
• 20:42
  community. Let me ask you a question.
• 20:44
  There's so much to unravel here and I appreciate you giving me
• 20:47
  the history. The three of you again, I'm
• 20:49
  mentioning again how amazing and special it is that the three of
• 20:51
  you took out time to sit here and talk about.
• 20:53
  It's shows how meaningful the community is for you and your
• 20:56
  desire to have people even mimic this and grow this in their
• 20:59
  communities and to support your own community for the all the
• 21:03
  right reasons. And I know I'm Rosh Kodesh,
• 21:05
  people come from literally all over the world to dance.
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  You know, I would say with us, because I will be there tomorrow
• 21:11
  morning. It's just amazing, amazing,
• 21:14
  amazing things that you're talking about and also what you
• 21:16
  can learn from about politics and being on a board.
• 21:19
  Can't imagine you running a shoe with Lipa Schmeltzer and all the
• 21:21
  people in the community of Iremont and let me get away to
• 21:24
  this, you know, place of serenity.
• 21:26
  So much to talk about there. I think that the, the, the
• 21:31
  beauty that I see, at least on I would say daily basis whenever I
• 21:37
  pop in, is that you, you all share.
• 21:40
  It's so funny to watch. It's almost like different
• 21:42
  people from different backgrounds.
• 21:43
  And you see it right here. For those of you that can't see,
• 21:46
  we have someone here wearing a big white knitted Yamaha with a
• 21:48
  beautiful blue, teal blue stitching around it and with
• 21:52
  some Taylor sticking out. And then we have this bearded
• 21:55
  guy from Monroe. And then we have David over here
• 21:57
  from Brooklyn, right? And it's just it all worlds
• 21:59
  colliding. And all of us really had such a
• 22:02
  tremendous background that led us to where we are here
• 22:05
  together, which is amazing. I like the concept and
• 22:07
  everything. I, I would like to break down
• 22:10
  just for a second, if you don't mind the, when, when you're
• 22:12
  getting together and you're building a shul.
• 22:14
  I've gone through this process a few times.
• 22:16
  There's one thing that you guys have that's unique to every
• 22:20
  other shul besides the music and the love and the dancing and the
• 22:23
  commitment to togetherness and so on.
• 22:25
  There's a uniqueness that no other shul really has.
• 22:27
  And it's been like that for you guys for a while.
• 22:29
  And I'm curious, if you don't mind me opening this box.
• 22:33
  You don't have a rabbi. What?
• 22:38
  We have a lot of rabbits. Yeah, yeah, we have quite a few
• 22:39
  actually. We have rabbits.
• 22:42
  We don't have a pulpit rabbi, but we have rabbits.
• 22:47
  Arshlam was like a launching pad.
• 22:51
  It's almost like not like the La Baocha rabbits.
• 22:54
  Santa Chlukham Baocha Rabbits said that he wants to create
• 22:57
  leaders. Arshlamme create creates
• 22:59
  leaders. That's what it is.
• 23:03
  It's a place where people come in to grow, to go out to the
• 23:07
  world. We we're doing that with a teen
• 23:09
  minion. We have a separate teen minion,
• 23:12
  a Bacharan minion. Shulamstein runs it every
• 23:16
  Thursday night. They're calling the Shabbos, but
• 23:17
  they have their own Shabbos. They have their own minion,
• 23:19
  their own kiddish, their own Gabon, their own ball curries,
• 23:22
  their own ballot feelers. And it is to create the next
• 23:28
  generation of leaders. They all go out, they all get
• 23:32
  married, they all live all over the world, dive in their own
• 23:34
  shoes and this, they'll bring this along with them.
• 23:40
  A third of our budget is is for the kids and the teens because
• 23:45
  we understand that this is the next generation.
• 23:47
  If we created a clubhouse for ourselves and you know, we can
• 23:51
  dance and sing and have a good time and grow.
• 23:55
  It's cute, it's good, it's nice, but what's with the next
• 23:59
  generation? That's how we're our budget is
• 24:03
  about $600,000 a year and we're spending 1/3 on the kids and the
• 24:08
  teens. We have Robert JoJo with the
• 24:12
  kids. These kids know taking Chloe by
• 24:15
  Hart. Really these kids have their own
• 24:17
  to heal them. They they have their own to heal
• 24:20
  them where they write down things and they dive.
• 24:21
  And it was by this 567 year old kids doing this by this with
• 24:27
  Robert JoJo. We have a career program every
• 24:30
  Wednesday with them, so it's. Thank you Hashem notebooks.
• 24:37
  Yeah, what's that? They have notebooks.
• 24:40
  Each kid has a notebook they write down.
• 24:41
  Thank you, Hashem, for whatever they're feeling.
• 24:44
  So part of Robert Jojo's program.
• 24:47
  We need to drop that song for a second.
• 24:48
  It was very good. It is.
• 24:50
  Very good. It's gonna be even better.
• 24:53
  Was very good. It is very good.
• 24:55
  It's gotta be even better. Was very good.
• 24:59
  It is. Very good.
• 25:00
  It's gonna be even better. Was very good.
• 25:03
  It is. Very good, it's going to get
• 25:05
  even better. Just rely on a shed.
• 25:09
  Jamie, you carried that thing everywhere.
• 25:13
  Did not bring that out. Stop it.
• 25:15
  Absolutely. This guy travels everywhere.
• 25:17
  I swear when you pulled it out a few minutes ago, I'm like, Oh my
• 25:19
  God, he wants the vape and he's not sure I'm looking at you and
• 25:22
  I'm like, well that's good. I was about to say just vape and
• 25:26
  you pulled that out at the perfect time.
• 25:27
  That's amazing. Kudos to you, Abe.
• 25:30
  I want to move to you then because you just threw the
• 25:31
  attention right over to you, Abe.
• 25:34
  I think another common denominator between a lot of
• 25:35
  people that dove in in the shul and the fact that they're the
• 25:39
  diversification is so wide. Besides our backgrounds and our
• 25:43
  emotionally and spiritually, there's also financial
• 25:46
  differences between a lot of us deal making, negotiating, blue
• 25:50
  collar, those kind of things. You have a certain uniqueness to
• 25:53
  you that I want to tap into for a minute.
• 25:55
  Being spiritual in a world of such physical is challenging and
• 26:00
  you're on the ground and you're on the route.
• 26:02
  You have a some sort of construction world that you're
• 26:04
  living in. What is what is that?
• 26:05
  Stone, marble, granite, marble, granite.
• 26:08
  And your brothers have been in the community of construction
• 26:11
  for a while. Yeah, we were.
• 26:13
  Yeah. My brother Kaim is a contractor.
• 26:15
  He was a framer first and he's a contractor now.
• 26:17
  My brother Bensi, who now moved to Eric Zieschrall and he was a
• 26:21
  plumber and I was an electrician and we used to do work together
• 26:26
  all the time. You fed each other business.
• 26:29
  Yeah. Wow, that's pretty cool.
• 26:32
  Yeah, it was amazing. Then at some point I got out of
• 26:35
  electric and whatever, now I'm in.
• 26:39
  Now I'm doing stone. Wow, just.
• 26:42
  To light people up, now I'll get them.
• 26:44
  What? I can't Stoned you can.
• 26:49
  Be conscious of what I'm saying. Yeah, it's all good.
• 26:51
  It's all good. We're not on 6/13 or whatever,
• 26:53
  you know. Always on 6/13.
• 26:55
  NO246, I meant that's great. You're, you're in the world of
• 27:02
  just being hands on and hands dirty, right?
• 27:05
  And really physical labor your, your whole life.
• 27:08
  How do you pause? How do you and it's such an
• 27:11
  environment where you got to be up 7:00 in the morning.
• 27:12
  I'm sure it is the, the construction starts, right.
• 27:15
  I'm imagining it starts early in the morning.
• 27:17
  I, I spend my first four or five hours in shul every day.
• 27:25
  So I try to make it when I can. I try to make it to learn before
• 27:29
  Nate's. I mean, it's been a
• 27:31
  transformation, but. Wasn't always like I don't.
• 27:34
  Know no, I thought the dominate needs five years ago after we
• 27:38
  moved into this into where our current location.
• 27:42
  Bernie brought his minion from 18 for Shay.
• 27:47
  I mean, they still have a Fire Nate's minion there, but he had
• 27:51
  started like a minion that had a lot of influences, music and
• 27:55
  which. Started in.
• 27:57
  There you go. I guess it has a lot of
• 27:59
  iteration. A lot of energy coming from.
• 28:01
  Him and and what, once we started davening there?
• 28:06
  I mean, I had daven sometimes, like here and there in 18
• 28:09
  forshay at the Nate's minion. I wasn't really an eights guy
• 28:11
  though, I just used to get schlepped in, but once we
• 28:14
  started there it was like a game changer for me.
• 28:17
  Before Nate's, you were davening in general.
• 28:21
  You're a Davener, so to speak. Robert Langley's Dugout.
• 28:24
  Yeah, Robert Langley's dugout for a bunch of years, OK.
• 28:27
  I don't know what that means. I used to have a very.
• 28:28
  Hard time. I'd go to shul like and I it
• 28:31
  would on and off try to go to like different mignon, but it
• 28:35
  just never, it never clicked like nothing ever like Drew.
• 28:39
  Me in that's I guess my question being.
• 28:44
  What clicked the Nates was a game changer, but that's five
• 28:49
  years ago or six years ago now or 5 1/2, whatever it is.
• 28:53
  But Shabbos, Shabbos, Shabbos changed my life.
• 28:58
  I mean, I grew up in a house that had like Shabbos is
• 29:01
  amazing, most warm home. But like everyone, you have to
• 29:05
  veer on your own path to some to some extent.
• 29:09
  And like I would say, the first couple of years of marriage, I
• 29:14
  didn't go to shul too much. Shabbos during the week was
• 29:20
  less, but yeah, once. So I want to clarify where we're
• 29:27
  going, but Shabbos really changed my, my weekday life.
• 29:32
  And but the Nate's minion at the Arsalan, what was what changed
• 29:36
  my life, really? So it starts with the Shabbos
• 29:39
  and then it continges into the weekday.
• 29:41
  It's sort of like confuses you. But I'm just curious though,
• 29:43
  through that whole process of you working hard, if you're not
• 29:46
  working, if your hands are not on a tool, you're not bringing
• 29:50
  in money. And in that environment to find
• 29:52
  spirituality, I find it's challenging.
• 29:54
  So I'm curious through that process, like what clicked for
• 29:57
  you at that point? That's what I want to go back to
• 29:59
  for a little bit. So.
• 30:00
  So many people can resonate with this.
• 30:02
  You're working hard. If I don't get into the Uber
• 30:04
  car, if I don't sit behind that desk, if I don't, you know, show
• 30:08
  up to that kitchen or you know, show up to that facility, then
• 30:11
  I'm not making money. And it's so a constant worry in
• 30:15
  our world, right? So how do you connect that
• 30:17
  spirituality? Where did that spark come?
• 30:20
  I understand the journey of IT or Shlomo and the Kalabak and
• 30:22
  all that stuff. I'm curious if you can take me a
• 30:24
  little deeper to understand throughout that process what I
• 30:27
  can learn from it of where did that shift, mental shift come
• 30:31
  from, so to speak? So when I started, when we
• 30:33
  started the minion, I started listening to Shlomo a lot and
• 30:36
  hearing rabble slom will talk about this rabble or that
• 30:41
  rabbit, always saying stories and little terrors.
• 30:43
  And it got it like sparked Manishama.
• 30:47
  Manishama was like, Hey, I want that whatever he's talking
• 30:49
  about, I want that. I want ish bits.
• 30:51
  I don't know what it is, but I want it.
• 30:52
  I want Rabin Ahmed. I don't know why, I don't know
• 30:55
  what, but it's like something that's changing something inside
• 30:58
  of me and that you know, since it was like small, small things
• 31:03
  that early on at some point after the crash in O 8.
• 31:09
  So I was not I was doing electric on a much smaller
• 31:12
  scale. I had like built up a little
• 31:14
  business or whatever. But so after that I was trying
• 31:18
  to sell water treatment and I was sitting in the office one
• 31:20
  day and my brother tells me like I could not make a sale.
• 31:26
  I had nothing. I'm like going bananas and I'm
• 31:30
  like and my brother's like Rabin Ahmed and Yosh.
• 31:34
  So one day I'm sitting there. I'm like, OK, you know something
• 31:36
  I hear about Rabin Ahmed. I'd rather been going to like a
• 31:39
  Lakota Marancia for a couple of years with Daniel Corn and and
• 31:45
  I'm sitting at the at the desk and I Google Rabin Ahmed and to
• 31:51
  Shiram from remote Schwamberger came up and the rest is history
• 31:56
  really from that like all of a sudden for the next till now I
• 32:01
  walk around with something in my ear most of the day and that's
• 32:05
  my infusion and I'm just pounding stuff like like we
• 32:09
  always say input output. So double speed.
• 32:13
  Yeah. You're getting.
• 32:14
  Early on it wasn't double speed. Well, you're getting at least a
• 32:18
  lot of the input by listening to it and absorbing it and so on.
• 32:22
  How are you outputting it? I try to smile at everyone.
• 32:27
  I try to just live it, you know, try to whatever my feelings are
• 32:32
  at some point. Also like hearing so many
• 32:33
  different things from Irvine Burger where he made me realize
• 32:39
  that everyone has everyone has packages.
• 32:41
  So I have troubles. I have things that are
• 32:44
  struggling, like I have to run and do whatever it is everyone
• 32:48
  does. So kind of like, well, maybe I'm
• 32:51
  jumping, but it's an equalizer. And I was like, hey, you know
• 32:54
  something, I just want to be a positive guy.
• 32:56
  You know, years ago, they used to call me Abe.
• 32:58
  Angry Electrician. Yeah.
• 33:02
  If you interview, don't interview any of my people that
• 33:05
  I worked with because you know. Was that right?
• 33:07
  Is that Were you angrier then? Yeah, what?
• 33:10
  Do you think you're I? Don't know if I was angry, but
• 33:12
  like I used to get, I used to get triggered very easily and.
• 33:18
  Wow. Yeah.
• 33:20
  So like, see, no, I, I, I like it.
• 33:23
  But look, this is all learning experience with one another.
• 33:25
  I mean, you know, being in this chair and being vulnerable and
• 33:28
  talking, it's, it's not easy, but I'm right here with you.
• 33:32
  I used to be angry too. And I was an angry kid.
• 33:35
  In fact, as a, as a teenager, I remember cursing, you know, my
• 33:39
  mother, I was so angry. I, I like I, I, I recognize now
• 33:44
  years later that she has forgiven me, you know, of
• 33:46
  course, because she's a mother, right?
• 33:50
  You know, but I was angry and I was always thinking about that
• 33:52
  and I, I like talking about anger.
• 33:54
  People shy away from it. I, I think that anger is one of
• 33:57
  the worst traits in the entire world.
• 34:01
  It, it the same passion perhaps that can build a relationship in
• 34:06
  a minute, can destroy it. It can destroy years through
• 34:10
  anger. So I really want to talk about,
• 34:12
  I want to tap into that for a minute.
• 34:13
  If you don't mind, by all means. So like I think that I think
• 34:18
  that me not getting less don't. Make me cry.
• 34:23
  Crying is also a good thing. But I guess that, you know, I
• 34:28
  have a lot of lessons that I've learned in my life about anger.
• 34:31
  I'm curious what you've learned from everything that you've
• 34:33
  taken in, Like what are those? What are those valuable insights
• 34:38
  and golden Nuggets that you can share about anger and about your
• 34:42
  journey through it and transitioning 'cause I don't
• 34:45
  know you as an angry person, but I sure as hell believe you that
• 34:48
  you were angry? What have I learned about anger?
• 34:53
  Anger doesn't feel good. Anger is something that just
• 34:57
  like it's a, it's a filler. I don't know.
• 35:00
  I never really thought about it. I don't, I try not to like
• 35:03
  reflect on what it was more on like that energy that I was
• 35:07
  putting into not necessarily putting in.
• 35:10
  That was like a natural proclivity.
• 35:15
  I realized that if I can, if I can use it for something that's
• 35:17
  positive. I think I once heard Weinberger
• 35:20
  talking about this and he was talking about the raviolis, the
• 35:25
  Savarov, and about the challenge for a lot of us to accept what
• 35:31
  he like, what let's say the sapmer.
• 35:34
  I don't want to get into it, but like what the sapmer view on
• 35:37
  Earthy Stroll is. And he said he's like, listen,
• 35:40
  he's like, you have to find the nukuda panimi, like the
• 35:44
  innermost truth that's inside of it and roll with it.
• 35:48
  And it made me think, I'm like, you know, I just want to be
• 35:53
  happy. I just want to be happy.
• 35:57
  So I started taking the energy that I guess I was using for,
• 36:02
  for anger and just started smiling and smiling at people.
• 36:08
  And I realized that like a smile is a smile could be with your
• 36:12
  eyes only you can smile at someone with your eyes without
• 36:15
  your without your mouth moving. And I was like the same way that
• 36:21
  you can look angry, you come inside, somebody can look really
• 36:24
  angry. It's it's an energy.
• 36:29
  So you start transitioning that. Transitioning.
• 36:31
  I just like, I don't, I don't, I don't want the the angry energy
• 36:34
  around me. David Smoli, what do you guys
• 36:39
  think? Have you experienced anger?
• 36:41
  We've all experienced anger. To A to a level that you have
• 36:44
  had to transform yourself, you personally.
• 36:49
  It's funny that when you when you finish at the end of the
• 36:52
  semester, you have elegant soil. And over there you see you dive
• 36:56
  and you say you hear rod sign. First to you is Kinna Kai, Kas
• 37:03
  and Gaiba right has Shilai Sala, Kinna Sodomolai.
• 37:11
  Jealousy. Jealousy, she'll like echo,
• 37:15
  anger, anger and ANOVA and simply be ANOVA.
• 37:21
  And that's what it is. So I remember 10 years ago when
• 37:25
  I would go as part of this 12 years ago, so I would have a
• 37:30
  Simon. I would want to dive in for
• 37:31
  these three things, but I think Kenna, Kass and Guy, but it's
• 37:34
  huge. Ego.
• 37:36
  It's ego, right? So Kenna kas Gava is kov kov
• 37:42
  gemo, right? Kov kov gemo.
• 37:46
  Kov kov gemo is 123. It's 123.
• 37:51
  That was like my Simon for like when I go out to dive in in the
• 37:54
  woods, it's kind of Kas GABA. So obviously we all we all have
• 37:58
  that and different moments in life trigger different emotions.
• 38:06
  I think with by me is whenever I get triggered with one of these
• 38:12
  the I I think of Yeshus. It was nothing.
• 38:17
  What is it, Yeshus? Yeshua, I know we're all we're
• 38:20
  all nothing. If we're all nothing, if I'm not
• 38:24
  thinking, he's not thinking You're nothing.
• 38:27
  So I'm going to get upset about what?
• 38:30
  You're nothing. I'm nothing.
• 38:31
  I'm going to get upset about nothing.
• 38:36
  So nothing has all come from so I didn't OfferUp a so if a offer
• 38:40
  will come from nothing when I go back to nothing.
• 38:43
  So when you realize that we're all nothing and the only thing
• 38:46
  that is is a sham in the center of the universe, we're all part
• 38:51
  of a sham. We're all reflections of a sham.
• 38:55
  And whatever I'm doing is just I'm I'm shalik of Hashem.
• 38:58
  Hashem is letting me do do things.
• 39:00
  I'm like his teen or so if I'm in shalik, If you get into that
• 39:05
  mindset, then nothing can upset you.
• 39:10
  You don't have an ego because we used to have an ego.
• 39:15
  You don't have jealousy because that reflection of Hashem,
• 39:20
  Hashem decided to have His outcome and His reflection and
• 39:24
  that person that way and to me that way.
• 39:26
  It's not that that person is higher than me or I'm lower or
• 39:31
  that's lower. So same thing.
• 39:34
  It's all a sham. It comes out differently,
• 39:38
  different people. So I think when you have that
• 39:42
  mindset and you train yourself to think that way, you have a
• 39:47
  more peaceful life. You have peaceful lives.
• 39:50
  It doesn't bother you as much. You don't take life, the Western
• 39:54
  life that seriously. Obviously, you know, Jewish life
• 39:58
  you have to take seriously, but you don't, you don't take all of
• 40:00
  these other things seriously. And it has an effect on, on your
• 40:05
  psyche. It has an effect on your.
• 40:08
  On your mental health that and obviously that brings in Amuna
• 40:13
  and Batachan and know that gives you a more peaceful life.
• 40:18
  Let me ask you a question. You know, you, you use the word
• 40:21
  that I've heard a lot in, in this world of Rabnachman, in the
• 40:25
  world of or Shlomo has both of us, the concept of being alone
• 40:32
  and talking to Hashem, talking to God.
• 40:35
  You mentioned it. So I'd like to for you to break
• 40:37
  it down for us, if you don't mind.
• 40:39
  The first time I ever heard about it was from a good friend
• 40:42
  of mine, Yankee Safran. And I was going through a very
• 40:46
  difficult time. He saw me in the gym and he saw
• 40:48
  something was wrong and as a good friend should do, he asked
• 40:51
  me how you doing and I said as a good friend should do.
• 40:54
  I responded, I'm not doing so great.
• 40:56
  And he said, why don't you go home and shut the door, make
• 41:05
  sure no one's, no one's home with you, shut your windows, do
• 41:07
  your do your neighbors a favor and just just yell at God.
• 41:11
  Just scream at him and just treat him like your friend, like
• 41:15
  your enemy, like you're, you're everything.
• 41:17
  Just yell at him. And, and I'm not going to get
• 41:19
  too deep into what happened by me because like I like to say, I
• 41:22
  want to learn from you guys and your experiences, but it opened
• 41:25
  up my world to connecting to God in a simple language of English
• 41:30
  and of my own emotion. And it was a tremendous
• 41:33
  breakthrough. And then JoJo took me out to the
• 41:35
  fields a few months ago for the first time.
• 41:37
  He's like, we'll talk to this tree, I'll be back in 10
• 41:40
  minutes. And that was kind of an
• 41:42
  interesting experience. But what is this whole thing of?
• 41:46
  What's the English translation of his both of those?
• 41:49
  Meditation. Meditation, I think.
• 41:54
  I think it's seclusion, no? Seclusion OK could be in both.
• 41:59
  Just being alone is kind of the Far East, maybe the Buddhist,
• 42:04
  you know, just seclusion going to a mountain alone.
• 42:07
  He's bothered this in in in our world, in the Jewish world, in
• 42:12
  the terror world is Remachman says to treat Hashem like talk
• 42:16
  to Hashem like you talk to your friend.
• 42:19
  Obviously he is our father. He's our king, Govina McCain,
• 42:23
  who but talk to him like you talk to your friend.
• 42:26
  I'm not going to talk a lot about it that Hashem wants us to
• 42:29
  be Manasseh Hashem. He wants us to win an argument
• 42:33
  with the sham. Hashem wants us to start an
• 42:34
  argument with Him. Convince Hashem that this is
• 42:39
  what I want and Hashem should give it to you.
• 42:44
  Much urbane, right? Wanted to go into that stroll
• 42:48
  down 515 feelers. It's not like, if you think
• 42:52
  about it, he didn't write on a blackboard 515 times.
• 42:56
  I want to go into that stroll. I want to go into that stroll.
• 42:59
  He didn't do that. It's 515 different feelers and
• 43:03
  that feelers came from Taurus, a Toyra, a whole Toyra and a
• 43:09
  reason why why Hashem has to let him in.
• 43:12
  Nachman talks about it. He says take every Toyota and
• 43:14
  turn it into a feeler. Right when Nachman has the
• 43:17
  Kutuma run, Revenowsen went and turned the whole Kutuma run into
• 43:21
  a Kuta fillers. Every Toyota has a feeler.
• 43:25
  So moisture vein went and I had 515 different feelers to Hashem
• 43:31
  trying to convince Hashem. So obviously Hashem told
• 43:36
  moisture rain to stop, but Hashem never told us to stop.
• 43:40
  So we kind of have to continue, but it's trying to.
• 43:46
  First of all, you have to create a relationship with Hashem.
• 43:50
  Obviously just you tell someone going to a room or going to the
• 43:54
  woods and start talking to Hashem, you feel like what, who
• 43:56
  am I talking to? And talk to myself?
• 43:58
  Doesn't make sense. So yeah, obviously I have to
• 44:01
  create that relationship with Hashem.
• 44:05
  And once you have that relationship and you have to
• 44:07
  dive into the relationship, you have to dive into Hashem.
• 44:10
  I want to have a relationship with you.
• 44:13
  There's obviously a creator in the world.
• 44:15
  The world wasn't created for nothing.
• 44:18
  There's there's a creator that created the world.
• 44:20
  So that creator hears everything.
• 44:22
  And now with technology, obviously you can understand
• 44:24
  that he hears everything. He's here.
• 44:28
  He's right here within me, right, A lazy Brody.
• 44:31
  You used to say that He says if you put your if you put mic, the
• 44:37
  mic, the microphone to his heartbeat, you hear Yotke puff K
• 44:41
  yotke wuff K, right. Every heartbeat is a sham.
• 44:45
  So you create a relationship and you go the reason why I'm not
• 44:48
  going to have to go out to the fires, he said.
• 44:51
  Because in the city with a lot of people, it's a lot of bad
• 44:54
  energy. People with bad thoughts, people
• 44:58
  are doing bad things. Like the energy, it's clouded
• 45:01
  right in the city, the pollution in the cities, you go out to the
• 45:04
  to the suburbs, it's cleaner. So if you go out to the woods,
• 45:08
  it's not a lot of people there. So the air is cleaner, the air
• 45:11
  is cleaner, It's easier for you to connect, it's easy for you to
• 45:15
  connect. And it's, it puts you into a
• 45:19
  mindset of being able to connect and, and, and dig within you to
• 45:24
  be able to bring that out. And it's a very, it's a very
• 45:28
  practical. I mean, Shawn Marsh talks about
• 45:30
  it, practical guidance, how to start doing his budgets.
• 45:35
  He talks about an hour's budget because he breaks down in 20
• 45:39
  minutes, 20 minutes, 20 minutes. But he can do it in 3 minutes,
• 45:41
  even a minute, a minute, a minute.
• 45:43
  You break it down with starting the 1st 20 minutes in a thanking
• 45:47
  a ship. Bring yourself into a gratitude
• 45:51
  mindset. Thanking for everything,
• 45:53
  thanking for your life, your wife, your kids, your house,
• 45:57
  your cars, your job, your food, your health, everything, your
• 46:01
  shoes, your pants, your friends, your rabbis, everything.
• 46:05
  And then going to 20 minutes of cash, manifish self reflection.
• 46:14
  What's going on? Where am I in life?
• 46:16
  What did I do, whether I not do what I want to do?
• 46:18
  Where am I stuck? What's the bottleneck?
• 46:21
  That's my message. Then 20 minutes and asking,
• 46:24
  asking whatever you want to ask for.
• 46:27
  He kind of breaks it down that gives you some type of a
• 46:31
  structure, but you don't need structure.
• 46:35
  Technically you you sit down with a friend some you're not
• 46:37
  going to think of a structure. It's not like you're bored.
• 46:40
  You simply you think of a structure, but you sit down with
• 46:42
  a friend, you're not going to think of a structure, but it's
• 46:45
  basically a relationship and it's the same as I can't tell
• 46:48
  you how you should have a relationship with your wife.
• 46:50
  Everyone has a different relationship with their spouse.
• 46:53
  Sham is the same thing. You have to find your
• 46:55
  relationship and tap into it. Once you tap into it and you
• 47:02
  become good friends, you can talk to Hashem even in a crowd
• 47:06
  to 1000 people and that's called raccoon calls of a silent
• 47:11
  scream. Instead of going to a room and
• 47:13
  starts to scream, close the windows.
• 47:16
  National talks about being in a crowd, being at YY Stadium,
• 47:22
  50,000 people and who's bothered us at Yankee Stadium, silent
• 47:26
  scream. And that's he's not going to say
• 47:29
  that's like the highest scream ever.
• 47:32
  If you close your eyes and you scream in your mind, it's the
• 47:38
  it's the loudest scream, loudest non scream.
• 47:42
  Wow, I almost wish that everyone screamed like that.
• 47:45
  It would be a better world. I I appreciate you bringing down
• 47:48
  this by this thing for me tremendously.
• 47:51
  It's really it was you did a great job by the way of breaking
• 47:54
  it down. Definitely going to consider the
• 47:56
  three minute version again. Something you guys mentioned,
• 48:01
  you know it, it's fascinating to me is that how not enough shules
• 48:07
  do the integration of the children the way you guys do it.
• 48:11
  And I think that if you know Diyenu, if we're able to get
• 48:16
  another shul to implement teen programs or children programs,
• 48:20
  you go to more modern shules around the world and you always
• 48:22
  see it. The young Israel, they have the
• 48:24
  programs and you know, growing up, I actually had Piriche in
• 48:28
  Brooklyn. Remember that.
• 48:30
  Dylum and Yeah. Yeah, we had it, but like a lot
• 48:33
  of times I don't see it. I didn't have it for my kids
• 48:36
  actually. And I kind of feel bad about it,
• 48:38
  to be honest with you, that I didn't have it for my kids.
• 48:40
  And I just think it's so important to give them, you
• 48:43
  know, that network of putting it together.
• 48:47
  How do you guys? I have a couple of questions
• 48:51
  with regarding this topic and you can break it down any which
• 48:53
  way you want. And you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
• 48:58
  considering asking all three of you this question, but I'm going
• 49:00
  to start with you because we're continuing the conversation
• 49:02
  really is that I wish when I was a kid that I was introduced to
• 49:07
  some of these concepts. And I, I almost thank Hashem
• 49:13
  that I went through the process, of course anyways, simply
• 49:16
  because I appreciate it more now.
• 49:17
  So of course, everything happens for a reason.
• 49:19
  It's all for my good. We get all that.
• 49:21
  Let's focus on the kids for for a second and, and ask ourselves,
• 49:26
  how are we doing this in the best way possible, infusing this
• 49:29
  in our in our children? And what can we do differently
• 49:32
  that they'll appreciate it and we won't.
• 49:34
  You know, I, I sit sometimes in a shul and I see a father
• 49:37
  dragging his kid to the Orange Coast to kiss it.
• 49:40
  And I want to drag that guy and throw him out of the shul like
• 49:42
  literally. And you guys are very
• 49:46
  emotionally aware in in our Shlomo, I'll tell you before you
• 49:49
  answer the question about the children.
• 49:51
  I'll tell you just real quick is that one of the first times I
• 49:53
  dive into the shul, I couldn't make it past Minco when I had to
• 49:57
  dive in for the amid. I don't know if anyone of you
• 49:58
  were there. I was there.
• 49:59
  It was on your mother's yard side.
• 50:01
  Yeah, so unfortunately I was the brother that said my brother's
• 50:06
  got this, they'll do the Kydish. I don't have to do it, you know.
• 50:08
  I think I was the one that pushed you.
• 50:10
  Yeah, you pushed me. Thanks.
• 50:12
  Yeah, appreciate that, bro. So I didn't really dive in for
• 50:16
  the amid a lot. I didn't really get up to lead
• 50:17
  the congregation, but I did it right before Shabbos at
• 50:22
  Urshalomo. I got up to David Mincha.
• 50:24
  And in the middle, I realized what a what a terrible kid I
• 50:28
  was. I didn't, I wasn't there for my
• 50:30
  mom, for the spirituality of it. And I didn't do a lot of
• 50:33
  college. I could not finish Mincha.
• 50:35
  I was up there. But hello.
• 50:38
  Kind of a cabin, say. And I push myself.
• 50:41
  I push myself like the hero that you are, David.
• 50:44
  I think you stepped in, right. Was it you?
• 50:46
  Yeah. I walked out crying and I
• 50:48
  couldn't take it. And the reason why I love what
• 50:50
  you did so much and it was so meaningful to me is because you
• 50:54
  were so careful not to embarrass me and you went straight to the
• 50:57
  Ahmed and you just continued like there was nothing wrong.
• 50:59
  You don't have to ask a rabbi. You would just did the
• 51:02
  leadership thing that she was talking about earlier, which I
• 51:04
  really appreciate. It's all publicly.
• 51:05
  Thank you now. But I'm thinking the effect that
• 51:09
  we have on our kids and the fact that we have on each other and
• 51:12
  how we raise our kids and what we do.
• 51:14
  Like one of my daughter's did something amazing today is
• 51:19
  before she left the house, she turned to her sister, who's
• 51:22
  similar in her age, and she said, Hey, you want to come with
• 51:24
  me? And I'm like, oh, that's so
• 51:27
  amazing. Like I never asked my kid to say
• 51:29
  that to their. I grew up, though, in an
• 51:31
  environment where I'd be like, you got to take your brother,
• 51:34
  you got to take your, you know, go out with your brothers and
• 51:36
  then, you know, and hearing about it made me not want to do
• 51:38
  it. You know, So in here, I looked
• 51:39
  at my camera like I never told my daughter to hang out with her
• 51:42
  sister. But natural inclination of love
• 51:44
  and way of growing up is not feeling, feeling forced like the
• 51:47
  guy who dragged the guy to the Torah.
• 51:50
  So again, I'm going back to this question, Shamela, and I'm going
• 51:52
  back with you. And based on that, you know,
• 51:54
  where I'm holding emotionally. What can we learn from it?
• 51:57
  How do we how do we tell our kids what we're what we're
• 52:00
  learning from all this? Just let's talk about that part
• 52:03
  of the process of of living life.
• 52:05
  The concept of do what I do, not what I say.
• 52:09
  And our kids see that we're we're initial singing davening
• 52:15
  and they see that we really mean it and it's important to us.
• 52:19
  So they want to emulate us. They want to do the same thing.
• 52:23
  And I've noticed the common denominator, I'm sorry to cut
• 52:24
  you off, is that none of you are pushing your kids to do it.
• 52:27
  None. I have not said.
• 52:28
  That's why I'm so amazed by the program that you have for the
• 52:31
  teens, because you're doing something right.
• 52:32
  Let's talk about it. What are you doing so right?
• 52:34
  We were pushed and we didn't like it, right?
• 52:37
  We didn't like it. So that's what we had to find
• 52:39
  our own ways. Not saying that that this is
• 52:42
  100% proof way that it's going to work, but right now it's
• 52:46
  working for our kids. They like to come to show, they
• 52:50
  connect to Rubber JoJo, they connect to the davening, They
• 52:53
  want a daven, right? So my son Ruby, he's 8 years
• 53:01
  old, he dives with Rubber JoJo every morning, Shabbos morning,
• 53:05
  Shabbos day, right? Friday night he plays outside,
• 53:10
  he runs around. I didn't tell him to come in the
• 53:12
  last few weeks, that what he saw right?
• 53:14
  He just decided he just came in the shoe, opened up a seal there
• 53:17
  and started diving. And singing.
• 53:19
  Who singing? I didn't tell him to do it.
• 53:23
  The concept the Rambam has this concept that you have to give a
• 53:25
  kid the candy to learn. So obviously we have prizes and
• 53:30
  and all that stuff. Rabbit JoJo brings in that vibe
• 53:32
  and that life in the kids. So they want to come to shul and
• 53:37
  they experience the singing. They like it now.
• 53:40
  They want to be part of it. They see the teen.
• 53:43
  They're the kids room is right next to the teen room.
• 53:47
  Welcome Minion. So they see growing.
• 53:50
  They're like, OK, I want to grow up like these guys, these guys
• 53:52
  diving, They take diving seriously.
• 53:54
  They sing. There's something there.
• 53:57
  Kids are so innocent. They're not corrupt like us.
• 54:00
  Their mind is so fresh and innocent and holy.
• 54:04
  They smell holiness. They want to.
• 54:05
  They want to be part of it. They just want to be part of it.
• 54:08
  They don't know yet why, what when they just want to be part
• 54:11
  of. They smell goodness.
• 54:12
  They want to be there. So your, your message that I'm
• 54:15
  accepting and I love it. The idea of not to push.
• 54:17
  That's the the thing. And, and, and, and let them
• 54:19
  emulate something that you're doing that they, they, they
• 54:22
  should be role models, which is great.
• 54:24
  And, and I love that. Abe, I'm I'm going to turn to
• 54:26
  you. Tell me, you know, from raising
• 54:30
  good kids and you know, and, and being an environment of
• 54:34
  brothers, you know, you we've seen a lot, right?
• 54:38
  I'm also a couple of brothers. You're a few brothers and you
• 54:42
  learn a lot. You learn what to do, what not
• 54:44
  to do. You know, sometimes I ask one
• 54:45
  kid of mine, like, what can you tell me about how I did things
• 54:48
  to you that I can learn for the next kid?
• 54:50
  It's one of my favorite questions to ask my kids.
• 54:53
  So I'm curious what you learned about this process from kids and
• 54:57
  that whole topic. I have no idea, honestly.
• 55:01
  My mother taught me that. It's all about prayer.
• 55:04
  She taught you to tell me all the time, Abe, you know how much
• 55:07
  I dive in for you and that's it. You know, ultimately, I think
• 55:11
  about this a lot. I really do because I don't like
• 55:15
  to look negatively on anything from the from the past.
• 55:20
  Like I was saying before, you have to find that Nokudo inside
• 55:22
  of what they were trying to bring out.
• 55:25
  And you know, for for many years, it was a matter of like,
• 55:29
  we were kind of forced to be inside the ghetto, like we were
• 55:33
  forced to be to do whatever it was.
• 55:36
  And we kind of just had to do like as Jews, you had to, you
• 55:40
  had to just live your life. You were stuck inside there.
• 55:42
  And then probably over the last, I don't know, 100 years or
• 55:45
  whatever, maybe it's 150 years, things kind of broke out.
• 55:50
  So the challenge I think #1 is to is like Shmilly said, you
• 55:58
  really want to just whatever you want your child to be, you want
• 56:02
  to try to and you want to live your life with truth and stay
• 56:10
  focused a lot of to feel and then have confidence in, in
• 56:15
  Hashem. Because at the end of the day, I
• 56:17
  look at myself sometimes and I say, you know, I've done a lot
• 56:21
  of like really stupid things, a lot of crazy things, and I'm all
• 56:27
  right, and I'm all right because Hashem took care of me.
• 56:31
  So the same way that he took care of me, let me just try to
• 56:34
  give my kids something positive to see and then have the
• 56:39
  ultimate faith that that they're going to be fine.
• 56:41
  And if they take, you know, the route off like in whichever
• 56:46
  direction I'm accepting, I mean, you know, Bhar Hashem,
• 56:52
  everything's great and. Accepting and praying.
• 56:55
  Yeah. I like that.
• 56:56
  Accepting and praying. I mean, just to add one thing, I
• 57:00
  think that it was a very, it's very important to us to
• 57:03
  facilitate though this, this idea of the future.
• 57:07
  Like I kind of see us as, as facilitators really, we're
• 57:10
  facilitating growth for people. And it became very, very
• 57:15
  important that we were like a lot of cover.
• 57:18
  Like if they have to be a part of something.
• 57:22
  So when you create the the teen programs and the kids programs,
• 57:26
  these kids are also a part of something and they mean
• 57:28
  something in shul. They show up, they know that if
• 57:31
  they're not there, also somebody's going to realize that
• 57:33
  they're not there. It's not just that they're
• 57:34
  another kid that maybe is hanging around on the swing set,
• 57:37
  or another kid who's getting pulled by the ear into shul.
• 57:40
  Yeah, very true. What a great point by the way.
• 57:43
  Fantastic point. A lot of the teens, a lot of the
• 57:46
  teenagers coming to Minion, schlepping their fathers out,
• 57:49
  out out early because they're like, pah, we got to go to shul.
• 57:56
  Wow. It's amazing.
• 57:58
  I love that David is there. Anything left to say?
• 58:00
  I think they could. Just compliment them and.
• 58:03
  Yeah, well, yeah, they they, I, I the first of all, have you
• 58:08
  seen you've have you seen the kids minion or the teen minion?
• 58:11
  It's pretty mesmerizing. It's it's, it's phenomenal.
• 58:14
  You have kids in both in, in in the teens.
• 58:18
  You have, like she really said earlier, they they have their
• 58:21
  own, their own kiddish, their own Gabba and their own cousin,
• 58:24
  their own guy that's leaning and they're all teens and like a was
• 58:31
  pointing out, they like really feel like they're a part of
• 58:33
  something. You're empowering them.
• 58:35
  You really are. And, and they feel it and you
• 58:37
  see it and you can, you see, you see, I, because I've had kids in
• 58:40
  the, in the, in the kids program that graduated for the teens,
• 58:44
  ran the teens. My, my son and Abe's son ran the
• 58:47
  teens program before Schmollenstein came.
• 58:50
  It's so powerful. And, but I, I, I really think
• 58:53
  that the main, the, the main thing is the main way to get the
• 59:00
  best out of your kid is to just lead by example.
• 59:05
  Because they're watching they, they, they're watching it.
• 59:10
  So you want to preach from today to tomorrow.
• 59:11
  You can, but they're watching to see how, what you do.
• 59:14
  How do you talk to that person? Speaking of which, a lot of
• 59:17
  things that kids that they, they, they're watching is that
• 59:21
  they don't see, one of the things they really don't see is
• 59:23
  how hard we work for our money. They just don't see it.
• 59:26
  They, they see that we're away, they're in school.
• 59:28
  We hopefully recognize the work that they're putting in school.
• 59:32
  They, I, this is my personal opinion.
• 59:34
  I'm curious to shift gears for a second and bring the business
• 59:37
  side of things in it because our kids are getting older and as
• 59:40
  they get older you want to give them the best sort of direction
• 59:43
  spiritually, emotionally, mentally, physically, emulate,
• 59:47
  lead by example, all that good stuff.
• 59:49
  But financially is something where it's not doesn't always
• 59:53
  working. By lead by example, I mean just
• 59:55
  'cause you're a dentist or a doctor or a tile layer or a
• 59:58
  stockbroker doesn't. Stockbroker doesn't have to
• 1:00:00
  bring it up. Doesn't mean that I remember
• 1:00:03
  those days. I remember those days.
• 1:00:04
  Yes. Yes, I have to mention it
• 1:00:06
  because I remember Uri Bean also used to say that he's in stocks
• 1:00:10
  because he was stocking the shelves.
• 1:00:11
  In the farm exactly. When he was 17 years old, but
• 1:00:14
  you were really in the stock market of it.
• 1:00:18
  Finding ourselves financially is, is also a tremendous, a
• 1:00:24
  journey, a concept of, you know, figuring out what you love and
• 1:00:28
  what you, you know, what you want to do early on.
• 1:00:31
  And it's such a challenge. I want to learn from each and
• 1:00:35
  everyone of you, because you're all three in different worlds
• 1:00:37
  financially and you're doing different things.
• 1:00:40
  I think you're in real estate or you are now.
• 1:00:41
  I learned you sold kosher hot dogs, tiling and, and, and, and
• 1:00:46
  right, that electric work, you're doing real estate deals
• 1:00:49
  as well now, right? And you did stocks and so on.
• 1:00:53
  How do we figure out for our, our next generation, you know,
• 1:00:59
  forget AI, you know, let's just talk about what do you do to
• 1:01:03
  instill in them and what was your background like?
• 1:01:04
  And I want to go back to your 711 things.
• 1:01:06
  So I never knew that. So 711 was one of your one of
• 1:01:09
  your first things. No, no, I got married in O5I
• 1:01:13
  worked for my father upstate. Instead of buying a bunch of
• 1:01:17
  properties in Middletown, menacing Goshen, got it past
• 1:01:22
  after 2001, September 11th, 2001, a lot of people in the
• 1:01:24
  city started moving upstate, right?
• 1:01:26
  Orange County, Sullivan County, Ulster County.
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  And that was popping to the O8 crash.
• 1:01:34
  At the O8 crash, we lost everything, properties, a lot of
• 1:01:39
  money. It was crazy.
• 1:01:40
  So I decided then to leave the development world, leave the
• 1:01:46
  construction world. I always liked cooking.
• 1:01:48
  I'm going to culinary school, so I went to culinary school.
• 1:01:53
  I did not know this. Yeah, I feel like I need the
• 1:01:55
  kazoo for every everything that he's going to go through, right.
• 1:01:59
  Now culinary school and then yeah, continue.
• 1:02:04
  In Brooklyn. I remember that on Coney Island
• 1:02:06
  Ave. Yes.
• 1:02:07
  You went to that culinary school.
• 1:02:09
  Get out. I I did a dating class there
• 1:02:10
  once. Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  CKCA. Yeah, yeah, By the way, great
• 1:02:17
  tip for dating is go cooking. Get a cooking class, get someone
• 1:02:20
  to come to your house and do cooking.
• 1:02:22
  It's fantastic. Graduated from there, worked at
• 1:02:24
  a bunch of places. Where'd you work?
• 1:02:28
  First spot. Freddy.
• 1:02:31
  Fred, where'd you work? Humio sushi and steak in
• 1:02:35
  Livingston, NJ, next. You can go through all of them.
• 1:02:39
  Now, Lakewood Courtyard, what was the record?
• 1:02:43
  In liquid? No.
• 1:02:44
  Yes. In the nursing home.
• 1:02:45
  Yes, you were. A food service sector?
• 1:02:47
  Get out of here. Let's talk about your budgets,
• 1:02:49
  your PPDS, your vendors, your nutrition.
• 1:02:52
  I think I brought it down from 7 dollars like 550.
• 1:02:54
  Get out of there. No such thing as 550.
• 1:02:56
  This was one. Yeah, OK back then.
• 1:02:58
  OK, OK, OK, fine. And they eat well.
• 1:03:02
  And they ate well. Exactly.
• 1:03:03
  So how long were your food service director for?
• 1:03:04
  I did not know this I. Think for like a year.
• 1:03:07
  They fired me for what? Because I didn't have enough
• 1:03:10
  Shilis, I promise you. What does that mean?
• 1:03:15
  I didn't ask and I didn't have any shilis.
• 1:03:18
  They said the pre, the chef before you always called the
• 1:03:20
  rabbi for shilis. You never called the rabbit for
• 1:03:22
  shilis. I said, what do you want?
• 1:03:23
  I know all the I know all the shilis.
• 1:03:25
  I know all the answers. So yeah, they let me go.
• 1:03:29
  And I worked with Moshe Teitelbaum.
• 1:03:31
  Chef Moshe Teitelbaum. OK.
• 1:03:33
  And with RAM caterers, we opened, we opened up.
• 1:03:37
  Ram's one of the biggest. Yeah, Aaron's Casino Farm Farms
• 1:03:40
  in Queens. We opened up the deli there.
• 1:03:42
  It's a high end deli. I worked at a few wedding halls
• 1:03:46
  I gave. At what age is this now?
• 1:03:48
  This is. I don't know.
• 1:03:49
  This is. He's still only 14 at this part.
• 1:03:51
  Let's. Go by years.
• 1:03:52
  This is, yeah. Higher 20s two. 1000 and nine
• 1:03:55
  2010 higher. 20s. Mid 20, No.
• 1:03:58
  Early 20s Twenty. Three and four got it.
• 1:04:00
  So in your 20s, you're figuring it out.
• 1:04:02
  You did culinary, you're testing out the world.
• 1:04:04
  You worked in different restaurants and stuff.
• 1:04:06
  So I decided to do a food truck at the Chase parking lot of.
• 1:04:11
  Course you did. Food truck at Chase parking lot.
• 1:04:17
  I had to go through through the village to get an approval to
• 1:04:21
  put a truck there. What made you want to put a
• 1:04:24
  truck there? I.
• 1:04:25
  Don't know, always felt like I'm the sandwich guy.
• 1:04:28
  What? Next door to 711.
• 1:04:30
  Just clarify we're. Got it.
• 1:04:33
  One day I come in there and Anthony's like, I heard you want
• 1:04:35
  to put a food truck there, Anthony, if you watch this.
• 1:04:43
  So he said I'm going to fight you, You can take away my
• 1:04:48
  business. I said, OK, let's see who's
• 1:04:52
  going to win. A week later, the village of
• 1:04:58
  Ermont declined my application. Next day, I'm all down and, you
• 1:05:06
  know, worked so hard, invested money, and then I had to give
• 1:05:10
  him a site plan and everything. I walk into 711, Anthony comes
• 1:05:14
  up to me and he says, you know what I thought about it?
• 1:05:18
  He's like, I always wanted to do something kosher in the store.
• 1:05:22
  How about forget about the food truck?
• 1:05:25
  Come inside the store, Do it here, I said.
• 1:05:30
  Let me think about it. What were you saying on the
• 1:05:34
  inside? And he said it was like next day
• 1:05:41
  I came back, obviously I said yes and we started working on
• 1:05:45
  it. It took us about a year, a year
• 1:05:47
  and a half to convince corporate to do it.
• 1:05:52
  What'd you learn from that experience?
• 1:05:53
  That's an amazing experience and of itself.
• 1:05:55
  A year and a half. So you're waiting.
• 1:05:57
  How do you have I? Still, I did that.
• 1:06:00
  I work. I work as a private chef to have
• 1:06:02
  a bunch of people. I trained caterers.
• 1:06:04
  I gave classes. What was your staple item I.
• 1:06:07
  Also worked at What's the name called name on on college
• 1:06:11
  fountain view. Yeah.
• 1:06:13
  Yeah, we're good too. Oh wow, Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  What? What were the items that you
• 1:06:16
  like to make? Like I, I make the best.
• 1:06:19
  Everything. Everything all right all?
• 1:06:22
  Right. I'll accept it.
• 1:06:23
  I'll accept it. OK.
• 1:06:26
  And so take me through that year of experience working with 711
• 1:06:30
  corporate to try to breakthrough that is amazing.
• 1:06:34
  What an experience. Taught me a lot how to work with
• 1:06:37
  corporate. That's what I'm asking.
• 1:06:38
  What did you think? Helped me in the later years
• 1:06:42
  working with corporate Just you need to know.
• 1:06:46
  You need to have a language for them.
• 1:06:47
  You need to know what to say, what not to say and how to work
• 1:06:51
  with them. I, I don't know, I mean.
• 1:06:54
  Give me an example. There's not a lot of people I
• 1:06:56
  don't. Know if I could?
• 1:06:57
  Like to work with corporate America?
• 1:07:00
  I don't know if I could, but there's a mahalo with corporate.
• 1:07:04
  Give me something. There's a mahalo.
• 1:07:05
  Give me something. I can't.
• 1:07:07
  You can't even give me the little antidotes of what it
• 1:07:10
  takes to work with corporate. You have to learn words like
• 1:07:12
  proclivity. Everyone in corporate is there
• 1:07:16
  for themselves, only for themselves.
• 1:07:19
  They don't care about the actual company.
• 1:07:22
  They don't care if the company's going to make money or not.
• 1:07:25
  They're only there to make sure that they can go up to the next
• 1:07:28
  level. And also you should know that if
• 1:07:32
  you work with corporate America, the guy you're working with, if
• 1:07:36
  he's giving you a hard time in a year from now, two years when
• 1:07:39
  it's probably going to be gone because he's going to move up or
• 1:07:42
  down or leave, right? When you work with regular
• 1:07:45
  companies, regular business, you know, the guys here for 20 years
• 1:07:48
  in corporate, I, I saw that in 7-11, you know, when they had
• 1:07:53
  their reps coming, coming through the stores every six
• 1:07:56
  months to a year would change. So even if you fall in with
• 1:08:00
  someone that's not good or gives gives you a hard time, you know?
• 1:08:04
  The opposite is true also though.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah, yeah. True 100 percent, 100%.
• 1:08:09
  What were you going to say? I was going to say about that, I
• 1:08:13
  remember from what about the seeking of?
• 1:08:15
  Course you were. Go ahead.
• 1:08:16
  What is it? He says, he says it's, it's
• 1:08:18
  psychological. I think it ties in with with
• 1:08:20
  corporate over here. It says when you wake up before
• 1:08:24
  the sun is out, it's dark, right?
• 1:08:28
  But you know that in 1/2 an hour from now it's going to be light.
• 1:08:33
  So subconsciously you train your mind that whenever you go
• 1:08:37
  through something dark in your life, the light is there.
• 1:08:41
  The light's at the end of the tunnel.
• 1:08:43
  The light is very near says, but if you wake up when the sun is
• 1:08:46
  already out, subconsciously you know darkness is coming.
• 1:08:53
  Says if you wake up a seeking a train your mind that anything
• 1:08:56
  you go through in life, light is common, which is ties back in
• 1:09:01
  with corporate that even though someone out there is not good
• 1:09:05
  for you, whatever it's hard. It's going to be another person
• 1:09:09
  there in a year from now. That was 711.
• 1:09:12
  Great fart Yeah great, very nice so you learned that the process
• 1:09:16
  711 you open the kosher thing and and did you start making
• 1:09:19
  money immediately I. Worked there.
• 1:09:20
  I was standing there screaming. Get you kosher hot dogs.
• 1:09:24
  Hey. Yeah, Me and Anthony would
• 1:09:26
  scream. You would notice.
• 1:09:27
  Like kosher hot dogs. It was fun.
• 1:09:31
  It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun.
• 1:09:34
  How? Many hot dogs did you sell like
• 1:09:36
  on the height? What I mean, I was it's good in
• 1:09:39
  New York. ABC 7 Channel 12 news, you can
• 1:09:43
  search it. We sold a lot of hot dogs.
• 1:09:47
  Sold 4500 hot dogs a day. Wow.
• 1:09:54
  I sourced all the dogs. I mean they, they, it was a
• 1:09:57
  custom run for us, custom sizes, custom.
• 1:10:00
  We did everything ourselves. I mean, I made a homeless in
• 1:10:04
  over there. I made a coleslaw there.
• 1:10:06
  We made everything there. Where'd the hot dogs come from?
• 1:10:09
  Back then, it came from international.
• 1:10:11
  There are Globex, Globex, Chimowitz.
• 1:10:14
  Yeah, yeah, Chimowitz, that's right.
• 1:10:15
  Good people, yeah. You had a custom run fast,
• 1:10:18
  custom sizes, custom flavors was great.
• 1:10:23
  And 2014 I sold it. I, I sold it because I saw
• 1:10:28
  construction picking back up and decided to jump back in and I
• 1:10:34
  opened up a framing company, opened up a framing company in
• 1:10:40
  2014 with my brother Moeshi called East Coast Framers.
• 1:10:45
  Still around, best in town, best service.
• 1:10:49
  You know when you drive on the 17, like 17 to go upstate up to
• 1:10:55
  the mountains on the right side in Monroe, you see all those
• 1:10:57
  houses. That's East Coast framers.
• 1:11:00
  What a contract. Yeah.
• 1:11:02
  Oh yeah. Wow, probably the developer.
• 1:11:05
  So the hell bot, he has investors, obviously.
• 1:11:14
  And the beginning of the project, it's 1800 unit project.
• 1:11:17
  Beginning of the project, they wanted to bring in four framers.
• 1:11:20
  I had to fight in the beginning of the project, they had three
• 1:11:23
  framers there. Now we're the only one because I
• 1:11:27
  proved myself. What do you have to prove?
• 1:11:30
  Quality. Speed.
• 1:11:34
  They'll call you up and say, hey, you have 10 foundations
• 1:11:36
  ready for you. I don't want you to start with
• 1:11:38
  one. I want you to start with all 10
• 1:11:43
  and I want you to be able to carry me at least 90 days, 90
• 1:11:50
  days, you're done with all 10. These are 5060 thousand square
• 1:11:57
  foot buildings. Wow, what kind of contract is
• 1:11:59
  this per 60 days? 90 days, how much we talking
• 1:12:03
  about volume of spend? Volume of spend that whole
• 1:12:06
  project, yeah. Framing wise, it's just framing,
• 1:12:09
  just the framing. Well, figure, I don't know,
• 1:12:18
  maybe $6 a square foot, OK. Humor me please.
• 1:12:22
  Are we talking about a few $1,000,000 contract?
• 1:12:23
  A few $100,000 contract. $6 * 50,300 thousand.
• 1:12:28
  OK. A few $100,000 contract. 300 per
• 1:12:30
  building. So you're talking about 10
• 1:12:32
  buildings in one shot. 3,000,000 bucks.
• 1:12:34
  Wow. You have to be able to carry in
• 1:12:36
  90 days. Sure.
• 1:12:37
  So you're acting as a bank to them as well, which is a very
• 1:12:39
  typical thing as a service provider and you're giving them
• 1:12:42
  credit and hoping that they're going to be successful and of
• 1:12:45
  course you have an end. So you understand that they
• 1:12:47
  probably will be, but still challenging to be a bank.
• 1:12:51
  I'm living in that world and I think a lot of our friends who
• 1:12:54
  are living in the world of being a service provider are used to
• 1:12:57
  this concept of 30 days, 60 days, 90 days.
• 1:13:00
  And I, I always work on on this concept of people should we
• 1:13:05
  should not be in the banking business, we should be in the
• 1:13:07
  service providing business. Get paid.
• 1:13:09
  Of course. It's part of the course, just
• 1:13:11
  like you know. In order to get a contract, so
• 1:13:13
  you have to provide that service as a banker.
• 1:13:17
  That's the reality. That is the reality.
• 1:13:22
  So wow. So a few years in, I actually
• 1:13:29
  few years in about 2018-2019. Remember talking to Abe one day
• 1:13:35
  and we were waiting for trusses on a bunch of buildings, roof
• 1:13:38
  trusses and floor trusses. What's a Truss?
• 1:13:41
  I'm sorry. Truss is a prefabricated roof
• 1:13:43
  joist. That roof.
• 1:13:45
  What's a joist? I'm kidding.
• 1:13:46
  OK, got it. And we I had a bunch of
• 1:13:49
  buildings without trusses. OK, it's got to be more
• 1:13:53
  companies. So I opened up a company open a
• 1:13:56
  manufacturing plant in Ellenville, NY.
• 1:13:58
  Whoa. In Ellenville?
• 1:14:00
  In Ellenville. I love Ellenville.
• 1:14:02
  There's a smack in the middle of town.
• 1:14:04
  Greenfield Park. Yeah.
• 1:14:05
  Oh yeah. Yeah.
• 1:14:07
  Do So Foods is in Ellenville. Foods is in.
• 1:14:09
  Ellenville. The Tamarack Hotel was in
• 1:14:10
  Ellenville. I grew up on Tamarack.
• 1:14:11
  How? Did you get them to name the
• 1:14:12
  park after you? So you remember I told them I'm
• 1:14:15
  going to open a Casitas development.
• 1:14:17
  I said no, no, no, we'll name a park after you.
• 1:14:19
  Aluminum drive, Aluminum drive. That was the the knife
• 1:14:23
  sharpening company over there. Whatever.
• 1:14:26
  So let me just get this straight.
• 1:14:27
  So you went to the framing business after you sold your hot
• 1:14:29
  dog business, and then you realize, oh, there's nobody
• 1:14:32
  doing this, so let me manufacture this on my own.
• 1:14:34
  Yeah, hardest thing in my life. So, OK, but you just went in not
• 1:14:40
  I heard this once a good a good vart that said, you know, if I
• 1:14:43
  was smart enough to know what I was going into, I would have
• 1:14:44
  never gone into it to begin with.
• 1:14:45
  It sounds like this is your juncture and right this is where
• 1:14:49
  you were up to. I had an opportunity in the
• 1:14:51
  beginning before I opened it to buy out a Trust Company, but I
• 1:14:56
  chose not to because it's obviously cheaper.
• 1:15:00
  But what I know now, I probably would probably should have
• 1:15:04
  bought that company, starting something from fresh, a
• 1:15:10
  manufacturing plant like that, very hard, very hard, not easy.
• 1:15:17
  But I'm here. My wife pushed it through and
• 1:15:25
  yeah, it was great. It was great.
• 1:15:27
  What give me one of the best tips for someone who opens a
• 1:15:32
  brand new business? Manufacturing something.
• 1:15:34
  What did you learn from that experience of manufacturing?
• 1:15:38
  I know the corporate question didn't go easy, but we got
• 1:15:40
  something out of you. But the manufacturing world,
• 1:15:44
  what could you? I say probably find the right
• 1:15:49
  consultants to guide you. They have experience.
• 1:15:54
  I flew in consultants from Texas.
• 1:15:57
  Wow. I flew in consultants from Texas
• 1:15:59
  that they, they, this consultant that I flew in, he ran four
• 1:16:04
  trust companies. He brought his team to train us.
• 1:16:09
  I didn't know what I was doing. I know that I, you know, I'm
• 1:16:14
  opening up a Trust Company. They came in, they taught us
• 1:16:18
  everything you know, and by hiring the people and training
• 1:16:23
  people, I think that's, that's, that's really what it is.
• 1:16:30
  You know what you know, you have to know what you don't know.
• 1:16:33
  Bringing the right consultants, especially in the beginning,
• 1:16:38
  bring them in for a month, two months to guide you what you
• 1:16:43
  need to do. They helped me a lot.
• 1:16:46
  They helped me a lot and the way the the plant was structured is
• 1:16:51
  because I went to the company Alpine, they provided me with
• 1:16:54
  all the equipment. They said, Sam, you know that in
• 1:16:58
  the past 20 years, no one has opened up a brand new fresh
• 1:17:01
  company. Everyone, it was like all
• 1:17:04
  companies that were given over to the kids and they, they come
• 1:17:07
  to us to buy you a piece of equipment here, a piece of
• 1:17:09
  equipment here. You're the first one that's
• 1:17:11
  coming to us to say, hey, design a brand new plant.
• 1:17:15
  They were happy because they can design the plan the way they
• 1:17:18
  want, which is raw material coming in from one end, finished
• 1:17:22
  product coming in from the other hand, all with screens,
• 1:17:26
  automations. We had everything in there and
• 1:17:30
  the we won a bunch of contracts because of because of that.
• 1:17:34
  They came down to our plan. They were like, whoa, what's
• 1:17:36
  going on over here? It was the way it was running.
• 1:17:39
  It was smooth coming in and going out.
• 1:17:42
  It was amazing. And then I sold it.
• 1:17:48
  Wow. Yeah.
• 1:17:50
  OK, so you sold it. Keep going.
• 1:17:53
  Where's the kazoo? You sold it.
• 1:17:56
  What was like? What was life after that?
• 1:18:01
  Life after that COVID is happening.
• 1:18:05
  COVID. No no, it's all the post COVID
• 1:18:06
  but a bunch of different. Things a bunch of different
• 1:18:09
  things A. Bunch of different things.
• 1:18:11
  Yeah, I feel like you know your your thoughts and advice that
• 1:18:14
  you're giving. It's something that you've
• 1:18:16
  become, you've recognized the need of consultants.
• 1:18:18
  So you yourself became a consultant.
• 1:18:20
  You're like a person that people go to for help and advice.
• 1:18:23
  And I've seen your brain work and and tapping into all those
• 1:18:27
  experiences, which is amazing. Listen, yeah, experiences is
• 1:18:31
  everything, right? Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  So. I made a note for the two of
• 1:18:35
  you. Actually.
• 1:18:36
  David and I know each other so well that I don't need notes.
• 1:18:39
  But I made a note before I wrote down different things about you.
• 1:18:42
  So you're a deal maker is what I wrote down.
• 1:18:45
  Number one. I couldn't ChatGPT you, so I
• 1:18:47
  wrote down dealmaker. You're a real Hassid.
• 1:18:51
  I, I wrote that down here too, in case you want to know what
• 1:18:53
  that means to me. That means you're a
• 1:18:55
  Bifinimashurusadin guy. You're a guy that goes the extra
• 1:18:57
  mile. No, that's not what it means.
• 1:19:00
  No, no, that's what it means to me.
• 1:19:01
  Oh, OK, you're a real. Hassid to me is that.
• 1:19:05
  To me, what does a Hassid do? A Hassid is a guy that goes, you
• 1:19:08
  know, Bifinimashurusadin, as they say, like for things that
• 1:19:11
  they do. That's why it's called going the
• 1:19:13
  extra mile. But you tell me, forget what I
• 1:19:15
  wrote about a what a husset is. What do you think?
• 1:19:18
  A Husset. Is a real husset.
• 1:19:19
  Yeah. That definition of real husset
• 1:19:21
  was prior to Boschentov. OK.
• 1:19:25
  Once Boschentov came and introduced Hussedes I I like
• 1:19:30
  Havocuk. Cusset.
• 1:19:32
  Havocuk stands for Chabad, Bresliff, Kalbar, Cook.
• 1:19:37
  Havoc Cook. Havoc Cook.
• 1:19:39
  Have a cook I like it to. Have a cook.
• 1:19:42
  Chabad gives you the the Muhran, his Baroness, the the the about
• 1:19:47
  Tanya talking about knowing what a shame is, understanding of
• 1:19:51
  shame. Reslav gives you the lave, the
• 1:19:57
  feelings, the emotional part of it, the the Simcha, the joy,
• 1:20:03
  expressing your emotions. Kaaba gives you the Naguna.
• 1:20:10
  Song davening in song and of course gives yet to throw.
• 1:20:16
  So you have that challenge of different ideas.
• 1:20:21
  I think that's the machine way. Machine for sure.
• 1:20:25
  Have a cook? That makes sense.
• 1:20:31
  I really like this. Have a cook thing that you're
• 1:20:33
  starting with. I think I'm going to name myself
• 1:20:35
  one. I'm going to take one off your
• 1:20:36
  page, so I'm going to change also a real husset to a new
• 1:20:43
  change of life. I need like.
• 1:20:45
  You have to get rid of the Slive attitude instead of a real
• 1:20:48
  husset, a real hub of coconut. I'm going to write down instead
• 1:20:50
  from now on. I want to tap into that in a
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  minute. And Abe, I want to go to you
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  for, if you don't mind, you ready for this?
• 1:20:59
  What does it say on the paper? What does it say on the paper?
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  Yeah, Hands on construction. Hollow Race Brothers.
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  You're the song, man Wines. Wines love wine.
• 1:21:15
  Tell me about that journey. None of your business.
• 1:21:18
  That was a journey. He sang it for you.
• 1:21:21
  He's a real friend. Very good.
• 1:21:23
  I mean, I remember, I remember hearing from you that hey, come
• 1:21:25
  buy wine by me and I enjoyed and I appreciated being able to
• 1:21:28
  support, you know, your venture. It was not my venture.
• 1:21:33
  I got brought in just to to open a store for somebody else.
• 1:21:38
  And I was, I was into wine. I love wine good.
• 1:21:43
  I was into wine spirits. I like all sorts of drink.
• 1:21:47
  And the opportunity came when I was actually when I was doing
• 1:21:50
  water treatment. I was selling water treatment
• 1:21:53
  and just wasn't going. And then one day, like a
• 1:21:56
  relative called up and they're like, oh, there's a guy who's
• 1:22:00
  looking for somebody to help start this, start the store.
• 1:22:03
  I was like, I went to meet with them and it was, it was great.
• 1:22:09
  Good. So you got to do what you love
• 1:22:10
  for a little bit. Yeah, try to make money out of
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  it, which is always a good thing.
• 1:22:14
  Yeah, I don't want to get distracted with that because I
• 1:22:16
  want to go back to where we were saying a minute ago, which is
• 1:22:18
  the Habakkuk, because I really like that.
• 1:22:21
  And and I see that lights you up also.
• 1:22:23
  I always, you know, I do career coaching on Sundays and I meet
• 1:22:26
  with people and I go through things with them and whenever I
• 1:22:29
  see them light up or smile in any part of the conversation.
• 1:22:31
  There you go. I just tapped into something
• 1:22:33
  that you really, really enjoy. I saw you light up when we spoke
• 1:22:36
  about how to cook. And I want to talk about it for
• 1:22:37
  a minute because after davening in a shul, what typically
• 1:22:43
  happens is, is everyone bails. In fact, most people are already
• 1:22:47
  destrapping before Elenu and just kicking on out of there and
• 1:22:51
  just running away to something in their world.
• 1:22:55
  What I noticed at Orschlomo is that it's so different in so
• 1:22:59
  many ways and so holy and so beautiful.
• 1:23:01
  And one of the things that I picked up on is that at the end
• 1:23:06
  of Dominant, it's like it never ends.
• 1:23:09
  It just never ends. It's the it's the gift that
• 1:23:11
  keeps on giving. And when the davining is over
• 1:23:15
  and I turn around, there's a challenge of different people.
• 1:23:19
  There's pockets of different energies all over the room.
• 1:23:22
  There's two here, 3 here, 5 here, 2 out there, one
• 1:23:26
  downstairs, one on top. And when I look around, I
• 1:23:30
  recognize that the commonality between everybody is God and
• 1:23:36
  Torah. And I love it so much.
• 1:23:39
  And I want to talk about it with you specifically for a minute
• 1:23:42
  because you noticed that there's a Thank You Hashem sticker on
• 1:23:44
  our board. We've been bringing up this
• 1:23:48
  topic a couple of times and I and I have noticed that it's a
• 1:23:50
  hot topic for people. So I want to bring it up for a
• 1:23:53
  minute. And that is what I noticed about
• 1:23:56
  you guys, that what makes it so special is it's not just about
• 1:23:59
  the Karlabach, it's the Chava cook.
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  You need it all. You need the Torah, you need the
• 1:24:04
  spirituality, you need the learning, you need the
• 1:24:06
  emulation. Emulation from a father to a
• 1:24:09
  child. You need the love of a shock and
• 1:24:12
  to have a good neighbor. There's so much going on in that
• 1:24:15
  shul that when davening is over is when everything really
• 1:24:18
  begins. And it's just such a great thing
• 1:24:20
  to see. And infusing, then infusing of
• 1:24:22
  learning, which I love so much. And I see that you consider
• 1:24:26
  yourself a hava kuknik. Absolutely.
• 1:24:29
  OK, so as a Hava Kuknik, if I wanted to get in on this Hava
• 1:24:32
  Kuknik world and I wanted to start with Torah specifically,
• 1:24:37
  and that's why I'm asking you this question.
• 1:24:39
  Just the the the island question.
• 1:24:42
  No, but what's the island question?
• 1:24:44
  Like if you're stuck on island, what are you going to?
• 1:24:45
  What's safer? What's safer?
• 1:24:46
  No, not really. The question I want to ask you
• 1:24:48
  is because I don't think you can 0 down.
• 1:24:50
  I want to say for you, we just said that it's not a cook, it's
• 1:24:52
  a lot of everything. So my question to you is take me
• 1:24:54
  on the path of learning. And I'm a guy that just, you
• 1:25:01
  know, I'm, I'm, I'm not proud to admit it and I'm not embarrassed
• 1:25:05
  to admit it is that I don't really learn a lot.
• 1:25:07
  And I, I have 100 excuses why. And but the fact is, I do have
• 1:25:14
  like, you know, my mini series of habrusos.
• 1:25:16
  I learned when I come to you guys, Zeesh Murmelstein in the
• 1:25:19
  morning is my Rebbe. Like whatever he teaches me is
• 1:25:21
  unbelievable. The spirituality, the height.
• 1:25:24
  And thank you to Zeesh. And that's the VA of the
• 1:25:27
  Havakkuk, by the way. He's got that whole Ravnavan,
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  right? That's what we learned with him,
• 1:25:31
  right? That's the breast loaf.
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  Which is amazing. I think you're, you're, you're,
• 1:25:34
  you're still, you're almost there.
• 1:25:40
  So, so I, I get, I get infused of that.
• 1:25:42
  I, I learned with Alex Chertok on Sundays, we learn Rob Joey,
• 1:25:46
  which is super cool. And my brother-in-law just
• 1:25:49
  started learning with me on Fridays and he insists on
• 1:25:53
  learning tomorrow with me, insists he's like, I don't care.
• 1:25:56
  You got to learn tomorrow, even if it's for 5 minutes.
• 1:25:58
  We have to learn tomorrow and breakthrough.
• 1:26:01
  So I'm on this, you know, path and I started it just a little
• 1:26:05
  while ago and I give a lot of credit to Arshlovo because it
• 1:26:10
  awakens something inside me that I knew that existed.
• 1:26:12
  And it's a beautiful thing. And I really, I think that
• 1:26:15
  everyone listening to this should know that it exists
• 1:26:18
  within your community. And it's 100% possible within
• 1:26:21
  your community to build such a Havakkuk type of system with the
• 1:26:26
  teens and, and everyone feeding off each other.
• 1:26:30
  It's up to you to do that thing. We call it EBAS.
• 1:26:34
  What's that? Ebas every blockage table.
• 1:26:38
  This is the most important thing.
• 1:26:39
  Every blockage table, people always ask us you're not afraid
• 1:26:43
  of a breakaway like afraid encouraging breakaways.
• 1:26:48
  We don't believe that. Actually, I went starting on
• 1:26:51
  this Friday night. We don't believe that
• 1:26:55
  competition in Yiddish guide, there's no competition.
• 1:26:57
  OK, it's sort of like a Chabad thing.
• 1:26:58
  Chabad also feels the same way when it comes to spirituality in
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  Yiddish Guide and truth. So it's like, take this formula
• 1:27:04
  and recreate it within your community is what you're saying?
• 1:27:07
  And this is the reason why when we're redoing the show now,
• 1:27:10
  we're just adding amenities. We're not making the actual show
• 1:27:13
  bigger because we want to keep that homie vibe, that feel, that
• 1:27:18
  stable feel. You don't want to make it
• 1:27:21
  bigger. Obviously you have to add a
• 1:27:22
  mikvah as it's not sham bathroom this that but the actual shoe
• 1:27:27
  staying the same size. I'm so happy to hear that.
• 1:27:29
  But that's because of the Ebas model.
• 1:27:31
  We want people to see what we're doing and go out and do it into
• 1:27:35
  your neighbor. They actually started in 5 lbs,
• 1:27:38
  opened up a shoe, opened up in five times because of what they
• 1:27:41
  saw, what we're doing here. Hollywood, FL opened up because
• 1:27:45
  they saw what we're doing here. People are starting to realize
• 1:27:49
  that, hey, they, they, if they did it, we can do it.
• 1:27:52
  Everyone can do it. I I'm going to tell you what you
• 1:27:55
  guys told me. You do it, you do it well, and
• 1:27:57
  they will follow like children. They're going to see how good
• 1:28:00
  it's doing for you and how well it serves you and your life and
• 1:28:03
  your children. And they're not going to have a
• 1:28:04
  choice but to recognize that if I want to do something to grow
• 1:28:07
  and to bring happiness and a sense of a community into my
• 1:28:12
  world, then I should. E Bath.
• 1:28:15
  I should E bath. Where's the camera?
• 1:28:17
  That's my camera. Yes, that's your camera.
• 1:28:19
  A tip to open up a shul is to involve everyone.
• 1:28:23
  Build it like the Michigan. We have a, we have Michigan
• 1:28:26
  Kiddish. When we started building it, it
• 1:28:29
  was the Michigan. The Michigan needs milk.
• 1:28:31
  We would put on our WhatsApp chat.
• 1:28:32
  The Michigan needs milk. People would bring milk.
• 1:28:35
  Next day, Michigan needs coffee. People would bring coffee.
• 1:28:38
  We have another thing. If you have an idea, you say it,
• 1:28:40
  you got to do it. There's no a, by the way.
• 1:28:43
  We should do this, do it. There's no we should do
• 1:28:47
  anything. Might be presenting a few
• 1:28:48
  challenges here, but like you. Have an idea?
• 1:28:51
  Do it. And if you create that Michigan
• 1:28:54
  vibe, people check in. People feel that, yeah, this is
• 1:28:58
  my spot. They'll feel part of it.
• 1:29:01
  I I love this, so let's. Go tell you two things.
• 1:29:03
  Yeah, please. 1 is that the first base of Mikdash and the
• 1:29:07
  second base of Mikdash were not built by everybody and they were
• 1:29:12
  destroyed. And I just heard this Torah this
• 1:29:15
  week that the mish gun, the what was so unique when the call for
• 1:29:19
  the mish gun came, they had to tell people, stop, OK, stop.
• 1:29:23
  We have enough. This is in a sense, the concept
• 1:29:26
  of of mish gun. What like Shmilly was saying
• 1:29:29
  where every single person is important and involved.
• 1:29:32
  Like you have providers of everything, but what's the most
• 1:29:38
  important is the guy who shows up to be to, to receive whatever
• 1:29:43
  is is being given there, that receiving is giving.
• 1:29:47
  So it's, you know, kind of works together.
• 1:29:49
  The second thing I wanted to say is that if we're sitting around,
• 1:29:53
  let's say this table was a bonfire.
• 1:29:56
  So we're, we can, we can communicate and we're
• 1:29:59
  appreciating the fire from the, you know, the warmth from the
• 1:30:02
  fire over time, when the more people that show up, there's
• 1:30:09
  limited space. We have to spread out because
• 1:30:11
  the fire gets big. Now I can't necessarily connect
• 1:30:14
  with you. So what do you do at that point?
• 1:30:16
  You have to create another fire. This is the same idea.
• 1:30:19
  The most important thing is connection.
• 1:30:22
  We always, we always talk about this because we learn together.
• 1:30:26
  The most, probably the most important thing is, you know,
• 1:30:29
  you have to dive in together and you have to learn together.
• 1:30:33
  We always joke like if we're not learning together, it's not
• 1:30:36
  going to survive because the Torah is like is is like the
• 1:30:39
  glue that that keeps everything together.
• 1:30:42
  So if something becomes very big where now there's like a lack of
• 1:30:45
  connection and this you can't necessarily interact with
• 1:30:48
  everyone, it becomes very hard. It's like it only for myself.
• 1:30:53
  I'm a big hugger. I love to hug people.
• 1:30:55
  It's like a real connection. I think there is one that is the
• 1:31:00
  same you. Know there's another one the.
• 1:31:03
  Window but. Sometimes I it gets like I get
• 1:31:07
  in my own head. I'm like, OK, you just like
• 1:31:10
  hugging everyone. Is it fake?
• 1:31:12
  Is it real? And I'm like, do it.
• 1:31:13
  Of course it's real. It's real because I would just
• 1:31:16
  want I want that connection. I want that as much connection
• 1:31:21
  as I can as I can get. So bonfire very important, very
• 1:31:28
  important. That's like the E best.
• 1:31:30
  You got to have that where, where whoever are connecting
• 1:31:35
  small groups, like you were saying about those guys in, in,
• 1:31:38
  in 42 in spot 42. Very important.
• 1:31:43
  If you have a a group, obviously your group can grow somewhat.
• 1:31:46
  And I mean, it's, it's a big challenge for us right now.
• 1:31:50
  It's a big challenge like as we're growing, like you don't
• 1:31:52
  want anyone to feel left out. So sometimes when we're doing
• 1:31:55
  things, it's like whoever is there, this is another big tour.
• 1:32:00
  You have to show up. You have to show up right now
• 1:32:03
  like Nissan. They say that the at the end of
• 1:32:07
  right after Purim, back in the days, well it wasn't after
• 1:32:11
  Purim, but in the days of the base of Mitash from the 15th of
• 1:32:15
  Adar, they started preparing for Pesach and the people that would
• 1:32:19
  that wanted to be involved would show up.
• 1:32:21
  They would come show up to take care of repairing the roads.
• 1:32:26
  What are all the different things that were involved in
• 1:32:28
  preparing Yerushalayim and the base of Mikdash to have an
• 1:32:32
  influx of people because so many things were happening there.
• 1:32:35
  So you have to show up. That's very, very important if
• 1:32:39
  you know if people and that's what happens, you know when
• 1:32:43
  people realize that they have to show up to get involved, all the
• 1:32:45
  sudden you end up with a lot of people.
• 1:32:47
  So now you need more locations for people to show up to.
• 1:32:51
  And at the end of the day, Yiddish kite is Yiddish kite.
• 1:32:54
  You have to feel like you belong.
• 1:32:56
  You have to belong. Like we were saying with the
• 1:32:58
  kids think they this was a thought that popped in at some
• 1:33:04
  points, like hearing stories from her Shlomo about, you know,
• 1:33:08
  Marshall of the Ghana Marshall of the Ghana from each city.
• 1:33:12
  There was a Marshall of the Ghana of he was just part of
• 1:33:14
  that village or part of he was part of the program.
• 1:33:17
  There was the tailor and the this and the water carrier and
• 1:33:20
  there was the Ghana of but the guy was connected to his town.
• 1:33:24
  He was he was our Ghana of you know, everyone needs to be
• 1:33:27
  connected. So kids, adults, we all need, we
• 1:33:33
  all need to be at the bonfire together.
• 1:33:36
  We need to be connecting with with groups, which you know,
• 1:33:40
  we're the PS that's now he wrote a safer about this called Benet
• 1:33:45
  Marshavatova with the concept that small groups have to get
• 1:33:50
  together, not because you're better than anyone else.
• 1:33:52
  It's nothing to do with that. It has to do with it.
• 1:33:54
  If you really want to grow together, you have to learn
• 1:33:57
  together. You have to dive in together.
• 1:33:58
  You have to hang out together and then you can change each
• 1:34:02
  other's lives on on the deepest level.
• 1:34:05
  Wow, that's amazing. I didn't even get to ask you the
• 1:34:07
  question and and you gave me 3 answers for it.
• 1:34:11
  My question was what that I started asking about how the
• 1:34:13
  cook is. You know, how do you infuse the
• 1:34:16
  learning? How do you actually break it
• 1:34:18
  down for me as someone who doesn't really learn a lot, how
• 1:34:20
  do I get into that whole learning world?
• 1:34:22
  And you said a lot by connecting and by being by showing up, and
• 1:34:26
  you really gave a lot of the answers.
• 1:34:27
  I don't know if you want to reflect on the question that I
• 1:34:29
  specifically asked and see if you want to, you know, nail it
• 1:34:31
  in. But that was my question to you.
• 1:34:33
  It was like, how do I get to that point of starting to be in
• 1:34:37
  the process of learning? And what should I open up first
• 1:34:41
  and what should I open up second?
• 1:34:42
  And is there a process? Is there anything that you can
• 1:34:44
  tell me, practically speaking, once I have the desire and I
• 1:34:48
  want to show up? Follow your heart.
• 1:34:52
  I heard Weinberger say once that every one of us Arnashama in
• 1:35:01
  this world, we have to learn Kola torkul.
• 1:35:04
  So sometimes you have to come back and different gulam to
• 1:35:07
  complete whatever it is. So sometimes you have that that
• 1:35:12
  Natia that inclination towards something specific, toward a
• 1:35:16
  certain Lemud. Start with that.
• 1:35:19
  Start with whatever is whatever is drawing you, and you're going
• 1:35:22
  to keep going. I mean, I started.
• 1:35:24
  I don't know where I started. I have a problem learning
• 1:35:30
  Gemara, though. I'll tell you, it's the biggest
• 1:35:33
  challenge for me. Gemara is the biggest challenge.
• 1:35:36
  It's like you, Mama, should have to break your head.
• 1:35:39
  It's not, it's not feeding you. You're not getting fed.
• 1:35:42
  Consider not that it's feeding you like it's feeding you like
• 1:35:51
  the oil. Really.
• 1:35:52
  I don't know how to how to break it down, how to separate it, but
• 1:35:59
  I guess we can tie it into his. Both of this, his both of this,
• 1:36:02
  like Shamili was saying, is that you have to challenge, you have
• 1:36:05
  to challenge Hashem. Gamara teaches us to challenge
• 1:36:07
  everything, right? There's no, there's no the whole
• 1:36:10
  conversation in Gamara, the whole Li mud is all about
• 1:36:13
  challenging, challenging this and and that, all with the goal
• 1:36:18
  of getting to the truth. I don't know if I'm answering
• 1:36:21
  your question with this as you. Are I mean, first of all, you
• 1:36:24
  said following your heart and you have a technical challenge
• 1:36:26
  of Gamara, but you know the beauty within Gamara, what you
• 1:36:29
  just said, the truth seeking arguments is what I think turns
• 1:36:33
  everyone on so much. I'm I live a life like that, to
• 1:36:35
  be honest with you. I love arguing with people in
• 1:36:38
  order to get to the truth. I love it.
• 1:36:40
  I don't get offended. I'll, I'll, I'll scream and yell
• 1:36:43
  and I'll, you know, I'll, I'll get to the truth, but I just
• 1:36:46
  want to get to the truth and, and, and understanding that
• 1:36:49
  Gemara has that gets me kind of excited to.
• 1:36:52
  I look forward now to my Fridays with Shirley and coming over and
• 1:36:56
  and learning Gemara with me for the three minutes that he, you
• 1:36:59
  know, manages to get out of me, which is super cool.
• 1:37:03
  I started recently taking as many cabrusas as I can.
• 1:37:09
  Like whenever I have time or if I see somebody that's like
• 1:37:12
  interested, I'm like, hey, you want to make a cabrasa?
• 1:37:16
  And I might not that be that good.
• 1:37:19
  Like, I mean, we've made many covers to shop and we still
• 1:37:21
  learn together, but we started many different limudium over the
• 1:37:27
  years. And I'm not afraid of it.
• 1:37:29
  Like, OK, you start something if I don't complete it, OK,
• 1:37:32
  whatever. Like this is, you know, it's as
• 1:37:35
  long as I'm, as long as I'm, as long as I'm studying, I'm as
• 1:37:38
  long as I'm learning and connecting to Hashem, I'm, I'm
• 1:37:41
  comfortable. I don't get, I don't get bent
• 1:37:43
  out of shape about it. So nobody should.
• 1:37:46
  That's just, no, that's a, that's a good one.
• 1:37:48
  Actually. I like that because I've been
• 1:37:50
  living that life. One of my most recent habrusas
• 1:37:54
  is my Roche Hodesh Habrusa. See, I like to do things a
• 1:37:57
  little differently when it comes to these things.
• 1:37:58
  Like, you know, I'm not going to learn with you every day.
• 1:38:00
  I won't see you every other, you know, I'm like, you know, you
• 1:38:03
  want to learn. Let's do it once a week for 10
• 1:38:05
  minutes on a Sunday. And that's what I have built up
• 1:38:07
  over the years. It started with Robbie Burger,
• 1:38:09
  my rabbi and one of my closest friends and mentor and leader of
• 1:38:13
  our community, Phenomenal human being.
• 1:38:17
  It started with him on Fridays. It was 12 years ago.
• 1:38:21
  And I'm like, I don't really learn.
• 1:38:22
  And he's like, just let's. Just do it.
• 1:38:24
  One time, OK, you know what, Fridays for 5 minutes whenever
• 1:38:27
  you come to me, wherever I am, and I gave him the hardest thing
• 1:38:30
  to do and he shows up. No matter where I'm having my
• 1:38:33
  tongue now, he shows up, he'll get into the hot tub if he has
• 1:38:37
  to. I thank God he hasn't had to do
• 1:38:40
  it but and he started that process with me.
• 1:38:43
  So I love what you're saying, which is grab onto the habrusas.
• 1:38:46
  My recent Rosh Rodesh Rahbrusa is none other than Benzi Race.
• 1:38:50
  Oh wow, lucky you, Rav Benzi. Rav Benzi Race.
• 1:38:54
  Yep, we did it twice and I'm looking forward to tomorrow and
• 1:38:59
  this is going to be aired after Rosh Rodesh, but what a special
• 1:39:02
  holy time to have the three of you here when it's guys.
• 1:39:12
  This is the of Molochem and we're the name Molochem.
• 1:39:19
  Why is it? Why is it so?
• 1:39:27
  It's the, it's the same Oceos and I think it's brought down
• 1:39:32
  the Gomaro. It's rush, rush, rush.
• 1:39:34
  Is that what? It is.
• 1:39:35
  It's the. Beginning of the year for
• 1:39:37
  angels. Is this kings or for kings?
• 1:39:41
  Yeah. Oh, OK.
• 1:39:43
  That's why you started with David's song Melech Melech
• 1:39:45
  Melech. It all comes back full circle,
• 1:39:49
  guys. I have to tell you, this is one
• 1:39:50
  of the most meaningful conversations I've ever had on
• 1:39:52
  the podcast and I've had almost 100 and.
• 1:39:56
  This is the main fighter. I can keep going.
• 1:39:58
  I can. I can do this all night.
• 1:40:00
  And I'm loving it. I just, I'm keeping my audience
• 1:40:02
  in mind. That's like, you know, OK, the
• 1:40:03
  treadmill's done, the workout's done, the drive is done.
• 1:40:06
  It's an hour and a half, you know.
• 1:40:07
  Well, this is not live. You can cut it down.
• 1:40:09
  Probably not. We've been here for it's 3:00
• 1:40:10
  AM. We've been here for like 6
• 1:40:12
  hours. We.
• 1:40:12
  Literally double. We don't edit anything and we do
• 1:40:14
  this at night. For those of you that don't
• 1:40:15
  realize it's 10:00 PM at night right now.
• 1:40:18
  Thank you Stefan for coming in and always being there,
• 1:40:20
  available at night, on a Saturday night, on a Sunday
• 1:40:24
  morning. We've done crazy things to get
• 1:40:25
  the right people. So we respect the time that it
• 1:40:27
  takes for you 2 guys to get together and we did it.
• 1:40:30
  There's a couple of things to unpack that I'm going to let
• 1:40:34
  everyone themselves unpack. But we have a couple things that
• 1:40:37
  we like to end with. So I want to head towards the
• 1:40:39
  ending. 1 of it is always is what's the message that we get
• 1:40:42
  out of our discussions? And I don't even have to
• 1:40:44
  identify it because we just did it.
• 1:40:46
  The entire podcast was message after message after kazoo after
• 1:40:50
  kazoo. People have been actually
• 1:40:53
  talking to me about it and saying, you know, I give us some
• 1:40:55
  business tips and, you know, bring some, you know, regular
• 1:40:58
  guys that are, you know, struggling or successful and
• 1:41:00
  talk and, and that's what we're doing here.
• 1:41:02
  And it's like this conversation is like the epitome of
• 1:41:06
  everything I'm trying to do on this podcast.
• 1:41:08
  And the fact that I have so many of you here with me is awesome.
• 1:41:12
  You know, I, I, I really appreciate it guys.
• 1:41:15
  I'm a loss of words of just thankful I am for coming in here
• 1:41:18
  and being vulnerable and opening up and you, your energy together
• 1:41:22
  is amazing. You guys feed off each other and
• 1:41:24
  it's wonderful. Do you have any questions for
• 1:41:27
  me? I like to go through that
• 1:41:28
  process towards the end of the podcast.
• 1:41:29
  So I just want to ask you guys. What?
• 1:41:32
  Why? Why'd you first come to
• 1:41:34
  Orshlomo? What was what was your Zeesh
• 1:41:35
  Murmelstein? Oh yeah.
• 1:41:38
  I first came to Orshlomo because I was having a discussion with
• 1:41:41
  someone about connecting to God and he asked me, Why do you do
• 1:41:45
  anything you do? Why do you keep kosher?
• 1:41:47
  Why do you keep Shabbos? Why do you keep anything?
• 1:41:49
  And I said, 'cause I love God and everything.
• 1:41:51
  I said I love God, I love God and I love God.
• 1:41:53
  And he said, so you don't have any era, you don't have any awe
• 1:41:58
  of God, not fear, you know, but you don't have any awe of God.
• 1:42:02
  So I said honestly, I don't think I do.
• 1:42:03
  And he started to explain to me that that's where it's Fila
• 1:42:06
  comes in from. That's where the idea of opening
• 1:42:08
  up at the Hillam and crying or davening and being in awe of God
• 1:42:10
  or davening in in for with a minion or without a minion, just
• 1:42:14
  putting on tilling. These things that are difficult
• 1:42:16
  for us to do as Jews are the things that connect us through
• 1:42:19
  the era of God, which it gives us the balance of being with
• 1:42:22
  God. So someone told this to me and I
• 1:42:23
  mentioned this on the podcast earlier and kudos to him.
• 1:42:26
  Doobie. We had that conversation.
• 1:42:28
  Six months later, I'm telling this over to Zish and Zish tells
• 1:42:32
  me just just come to Harshalomo. And I'm like, yeah, but I'm not
• 1:42:35
  ready. I'm not, don't even do anything.
• 1:42:38
  Just come, just walk in and just sit down and just absorb and
• 1:42:42
  just, and I did. It took me a few weeks and I
• 1:42:44
  came and I'll never forget the first time I came walking up
• 1:42:46
  there. Where were they up to?
• 1:42:47
  Like where is it up to? Like Dan, you were.
• 1:42:49
  Standing on the you were there. Yeah, outside.
• 1:42:51
  And they were starting to dive in and I came to Bassekin.
• 1:42:55
  And also what you said is so beautiful.
• 1:42:57
  The night turning into day and recognizing it's wow, so much
• 1:43:00
  time back from this conversation, guys, I love it.
• 1:43:04
  I walked up there and I started getting emotional.
• 1:43:06
  The second I got my first hug. I didn't, I mean, I didn't have
• 1:43:09
  to say anything. I just started walking up the
• 1:43:11
  steps and the greeting that I got from the people hanging out
• 1:43:13
  there, it was so real. We're missing so much of that in
• 1:43:18
  today's world that like, you know, usually you walk up to a a
• 1:43:22
  shul or a meeting of people, you just walk right by and nobody
• 1:43:24
  says hello to you. Here it's hard to walk by people
• 1:43:27
  without getting a hug and hearing it's Vartora and hearing
• 1:43:30
  a word of siata, the Shamaya, something divine Providence that
• 1:43:33
  happened in a person's life or a good story.
• 1:43:36
  And recently watching the construction happening is just
• 1:43:39
  amazing guys, Amazing. And kudos to you.
• 1:43:42
  So what turned me on is that is that walking in and then I, I
• 1:43:47
  went through the process and yeah, that's, I could talk a lot
• 1:43:51
  more about it, but it's literally for a whole other
• 1:43:54
  holiday. So that's, that's my answer to
• 1:43:55
  you. You have any questions for me?
• 1:44:02
  Not that I can think of. You.
• 1:44:05
  Know as soon as we wrap it up, I will.
• 1:44:06
  Yeah, as soon as soon as we. OK, no problem.
• 1:44:08
  No worries. It's fine.
• 1:44:09
  There's three of you here. You don't need 3 questions.
• 1:44:11
  It's OK. Any questions?
• 1:44:13
  Yeah, Who'd you vote for? Oh my God, I forgot.
• 1:44:18
  So now that we're old enough and established enough in the
• 1:44:21
  community, we have friends that are the mayor and the trustees.
• 1:44:25
  It's like big hawk, you know, so these guys in Wesley Hills are
• 1:44:28
  running completely unopposed, but they call me and they're
• 1:44:30
  like, it's, it's one thing that we're unopposed, but if nobody
• 1:44:33
  shows up to at least support us, we look like idiots next time
• 1:44:36
  around. So come on, make sure we get
• 1:44:38
  like a few 100 votes. So I, you know, gathered a
• 1:44:40
  couple people. I put the sticker on.
• 1:44:41
  I walked around proudly that I voted for Yitzy Churns and
• 1:44:45
  Milton Schwartz to be the whatever the mockers of Wesley
• 1:44:48
  Hills. And the reality is that it helps
• 1:44:50
  to have people within your community serving on these types
• 1:44:53
  of positions because they it helps with the growth of our
• 1:44:56
  community at the end of the day for our needs.
• 1:44:58
  And 100%, that's what this is. That's Damon Pomona.
• 1:45:02
  Mandy Lasker is out there helping the community.
• 1:45:06
  Helped us tremendously with the construction of the shul as
• 1:45:09
  well. The Mayor, Fuchs.
• 1:45:11
  And the mayor, Elon? Not for nothing I I wear this
• 1:45:15
  also because a reminder, and I like saying it, that voting is
• 1:45:19
  probably only important in your community.
• 1:45:21
  Right. Yeah, especially being a New
• 1:45:23
  Yorker. I have a real question, please.
• 1:45:26
  You started doing this about a year ago, right?
• 1:45:29
  Yeah. None of your business podcast.
• 1:45:31
  A year and a half ago, yeah. Probably takes up a lot of your
• 1:45:33
  time, yeah, thinking about it, producing it, editing,
• 1:45:38
  marketing, all that. How do you balance that with
• 1:45:41
  your business? I, it's such an easy question to
• 1:45:45
  answer because I've said it before, I have amazing, amazing,
• 1:45:48
  amazing, amazing people. I hire people that are smarter
• 1:45:52
  than me. I pay them more than what they
• 1:45:54
  deserve. I give them opportunities for
• 1:45:56
  partnership so that I can do podcast so that I can work on
• 1:45:59
  the beach, so that I can, you know, focus on trade shows and
• 1:46:05
  brand building, which is what I'm good at.
• 1:46:08
  So I love that question because my answer is a message to anyone
• 1:46:11
  listening. Find what you're good at in your
• 1:46:13
  world of success. Find what you're not good at.
• 1:46:16
  Replace it with other people. Give away partnerships, give
• 1:46:19
  away money. It's ultimately not ours anyways
• 1:46:22
  to keep. So what's?
• 1:46:23
  The purpose of the podcast? Purpose of the podcast was
• 1:46:26
  simply a branding move. So from a from a marketing and
• 1:46:29
  branding perspective, we go to a lot of conferences and trade
• 1:46:31
  shows. So we want to be top of mind,
• 1:46:34
  which is a mentality in marketing.
• 1:46:36
  So whenever we go to trade show, Hey, saw you on the podcast.
• 1:46:38
  Love your podcast. So that's the concept of why we
• 1:46:41
  have the podcast, but what and how and when And we're
• 1:46:44
  ultimately it's got to be authentic.
• 1:46:45
  So it's turned into growth oriented.
• 1:46:48
  What can we learn from one another?
• 1:46:50
  What are some business tips? What are some life tips?
• 1:46:52
  Raising children, families, relationships.
• 1:46:54
  And those are the things that are important to me.
• 1:46:57
  So, you know, I think that people want to do business with
• 1:47:00
  people that share values. People want to do business with
• 1:47:03
  people that are positive, that are growing, and that's what we
• 1:47:06
  are. And that's what I want people to
• 1:47:07
  know that prime sources and the Prime source is a company that
• 1:47:11
  shares in the same common values as most of the people that are
• 1:47:14
  listening to this podcast of growth, God, Israel, people,
• 1:47:18
  family relationships, you know, and so on.
• 1:47:21
  So I'm loving every second of this.
• 1:47:23
  And yeah, appreciate that question, right.
• 1:47:26
  I'm sure listen, I'm sure you grew from the podcast, from
• 1:47:29
  people coming every week. It's like giving receiving, like
• 1:47:33
  you give out a podcast, but you receive growth from it.
• 1:47:39
  Yeah. Yeah, a lot more than than I
• 1:47:42
  ever imagined. And kudos to Stefan and to Will
• 1:47:45
  that are constantly working throughout the week.
• 1:47:46
  It's a lot of work. It's a full time job to edit and
• 1:47:50
  cut and understand where and how and understanding YouTube,
• 1:47:53
  understanding Instagram, understanding status,
• 1:47:55
  understanding people and figure out the algorithm and so on and
• 1:47:58
  so forth. But it's worth every second
• 1:48:00
  because of moments like this. That's that's truly how I feel.
• 1:48:04
  Thank you, Osham. Thank you, Osham.
• 1:48:06
  Indeed. We're going to have to wrap up
• 1:48:08
  in a minute, but one of the other things that we always
• 1:48:10
  leave off with is if you started a podcast, Abe, who would be
• 1:48:13
  your first guest? Wow.
• 1:48:17
  Same question for you, David. Same question for you, Smiley.
• 1:48:22
  Can I go first? You go for it.
• 1:48:25
  I would bring on a show Makalbach.
• 1:48:29
  Very good. I was hoping you would say that
• 1:48:32
  and simply because you brought Nishama Kalabak to your shul.
• 1:48:36
  I think she was. First time in 10 years she came
• 1:48:39
  to a room gathering so I called her up.
• 1:48:44
  I actually tried getting in touch with her and I couldn't
• 1:48:46
  get in touch with her. So I called Sammy and trader to
• 1:48:49
  get in touch with her and Sammy told me this story about was
• 1:48:53
  last year with Shlomo's life and he started playing with Nishama
• 1:48:58
  and Shul music and he's bored, didn't like it.
• 1:49:02
  His closest friends wanted to take him to the Toyota to get
• 1:49:05
  rid of him. It's a tough year for his like
• 1:49:08
  last year of his life. And if Shlomo once told Sammy
• 1:49:13
  he's like, I don't understand, let's call him Yankel.
• 1:49:16
  I don't understand Yankel. If Yankel's daughter would have
• 1:49:20
  need care of I would have turned the world upside down to give
• 1:49:24
  her care of. So why doesn't Janko understand
• 1:49:27
  that I'm doing this to my daughter?
• 1:49:30
  I'm playing with her because I want to be in the car of her.
• 1:49:34
  Anyway, I got in touch with Neshama and we got onto the
• 1:49:37
  phone. We started talking and I told
• 1:49:40
  her I want to. I invited her to slomos your
• 1:49:43
  side. I said come, your husband, your
• 1:49:45
  kids, you live in Westchester. It's half an hour from us.
• 1:49:49
  It's the only show in America besides the main kabakh show
• 1:49:53
  that's not really operational during the week.
• 1:49:56
  It's Shabbos or other colors when you're there.
• 1:49:58
  You have storefronts. This is a full on Hasidic center
• 1:50:03
  on your father's name. Come.
• 1:50:07
  So she said to me, by the way, you're the first person that
• 1:50:10
  invited me in 10 years. The first person in the front
• 1:50:14
  community invited me in 10 years.
• 1:50:15
  So I told her the story that Sammy told me.
• 1:50:17
  And then she, like she became all emotional.
• 1:50:20
  She never heard that story before.
• 1:50:23
  And I told her the front community in the last 10 years
• 1:50:26
  changed a lot of walls, came down and told her of Nachman's
• 1:50:32
  the Kuda Toeva Park to find the Kuda Toeva.
• 1:50:35
  And she really liked the idea these these wrestler ideas.
• 1:50:41
  And I told her, listen, I think we have to bring you down here.
• 1:50:46
  And we invited her and we she, she came down my last month a
• 1:50:52
  few weeks ago for a women's concert.
• 1:50:55
  It's the first time she sang only for women.
• 1:50:58
  That's that's a step. And it was amazing.
• 1:51:01
  I heard back from the women. Their energy in the room was was
• 1:51:04
  crowded. It was smash holy energy in the
• 1:51:08
  room. And I think we owe it to RIP
• 1:51:13
  Slomo for everything RIP Slomo gave to us.
• 1:51:16
  We owe it to RIP Slomo to try to be in the car of his his kids,
• 1:51:21
  his any course. We just owe it to him.
• 1:51:24
  I'm sure he's looking down from Shamayam and having Nashas from
• 1:51:28
  it smiling. Wow, that's beautiful.
• 1:51:33
  You want to wake her up and tell her to come on the podcast or
• 1:51:35
  you'll just ask her. Yeah, I'll just.
• 1:51:39
  That's a good one, I actually not ashamed to admit it.
• 1:51:42
  I listen to Nashama a lot. She has a song with a church.
• 1:51:47
  It's a really, really cool song with the church choir.
• 1:51:50
  It's not in the church, but the church choir that she sings a
• 1:51:53
  song and it's just phenomenal and it's one of the most
• 1:51:57
  beautiful songs I've ever heard in my life in terms of the music
• 1:52:00
  and the melody and the harmonies and the instruments.
• 1:52:04
  It's Lord take me higher, right? Like it's I think it's that
• 1:52:07
  song. I'll I'll have to find it.
• 1:52:08
  But amazing. I I look forward to having her
• 1:52:11
  here at God willing soon. What about you, Abe?
• 1:52:13
  You have you have any thoughts? I do have a question, yeah.
• 1:52:17
  How did you get a Caruso with Bensi?
• 1:52:24
  I'm going to answer you the question, but first, do you have
• 1:52:26
  any thoughts of anyone or are we going to just pass through it?
• 1:52:28
  No, you'll jump on to Neshama. It's OK.
• 1:52:30
  We we can use Shmili's recommendation.
• 1:52:32
  Who would you recommend? Who would be your guest if you
• 1:52:34
  started a podcast tomorrow? Who would you want to sit in
• 1:52:36
  front of and schmooze with and breakdown?
• 1:52:39
  Uncover. My father.
• 1:52:45
  Wow. Yeah, this.
• 1:52:47
  I have so many questions for him.
• 1:52:48
  And over the years, like there's been so many times where I've
• 1:52:53
  got, I've gone to him and told him like I want to discuss this,
• 1:52:56
  this, this with you. But life, life just happens, you
• 1:53:00
  know, like I, I was lucky enough to go visit my parents or we
• 1:53:06
  were, we went, we had, we were in Israel right before, right
• 1:53:11
  before Shabba Zakhar for like 40 hours and went straight.
• 1:53:18
  It was like, so yeah, yeah. Would you do it here?
• 1:53:23
  Absolutely. Really.
• 1:53:24
  You would bring him on here and have conversations that we can
• 1:53:26
  participate in and talk? That's amazing.
• 1:53:28
  I love that. OK.
• 1:53:29
  We gave Caruso with, you know, the whole family thing.
• 1:53:32
  I love that. But part of one of the guys that
• 1:53:34
  I met the other night that have this group of friends is him and
• 1:53:37
  his wife have a podcast and they talk to each other about the
• 1:53:40
  challenges that they face and they have faced.
• 1:53:43
  And this guy went through a separation, almost went through
• 1:53:46
  a divorce, and he got back together with his wife and he's
• 1:53:49
  now an intimacy coach, a male intimacy coach that worked
• 1:53:53
  through his challenges and openly discusses things with his
• 1:53:56
  wife. And they're going to be coming
• 1:53:58
  on the podcast here soon. That's wow.
• 1:53:59
  That would be amazing. So I'm going to love to unpack
• 1:54:01
  that and unpack what you were saying also.
• 1:54:03
  And before we move on to David, So what were you saying before
• 1:54:05
  that? I said I have to get back to do
• 1:54:06
  any of us remember? Thank you.
• 1:54:09
  Benson called me for money, called me for money.
• 1:54:14
  And I said, you know, I, I always, whenever anyone calls me
• 1:54:19
  for anything in general, I always look at the opportunity
• 1:54:21
  that lies within it. And I said absolutely, I'm glad
• 1:54:24
  to. In fact, you know what I want to
• 1:54:26
  give to your yeshiva not only now, but every Rosh Kodesh, but
• 1:54:30
  with a caveat. You got to call me and we got to
• 1:54:32
  learn something. And you want to hear the
• 1:54:35
  craziest part? I asked him.
• 1:54:38
  I asked him what are we going to learn?
• 1:54:39
  And guess what he told me. Whatever your heart desires.
• 1:54:46
  We're related. You're absolutely related and
• 1:54:50
  wow, amazing. I'm so honored that you were
• 1:54:52
  here with us. Like that recommendation.
• 1:54:54
  I'm going to jump all over that. It's one of the things also that
• 1:54:57
  I'm trying to do now is I don't have any podcast saved.
• 1:55:00
  I don't have like 20 saved so like when someone recommends
• 1:55:03
  someone I want to jump all over and get that person here and
• 1:55:05
  then just have that continuity Rev. Do you have any thoughts I.
• 1:55:10
  Had a couple let me hear. My first thought was to let you
• 1:55:12
  know that the mikvah naming was still available, but after
• 1:55:15
  hearing the caveats that you give to the people that you
• 1:55:17
  donate to, I thought I'd step back.
• 1:55:20
  Go to the mikvah. With me, I don't want to know
• 1:55:22
  what your caveat would be, but but it is available.
• 1:55:25
  So there are sponsorship opportunities available for the
• 1:55:27
  Arsaloma Hasidic Center. Have a cook people and the
• 1:55:30
  mikvah is a big one. What's the price tag on a mikvah
• 1:55:33
  sponsorship? I think it's. 250, let's say,
• 1:55:37
  OK, so if somebody wants to have it's a seal of a deal, you're
• 1:55:39
  saying in terms of the mitzvah and the Kia mitzvah and the
• 1:55:42
  addition to that, OK, so cool, you got that plug.
• 1:55:44
  What else did you want to say? You were asking who, who, who,
• 1:55:46
  who would have on a podcast. Yeah, who would be your
• 1:55:49
  suggestion? Like who would be your first?
• 1:55:52
  There's so many different people that I could think of that are
• 1:55:54
  interesting that I like to sit with and unpack things with.
• 1:55:56
  But probably say Rabi Viggler. Rabi Yessi Viggler.
• 1:56:01
  Rabi Yessi Viggler. I don't know him.
• 1:56:02
  Marine Park. What is he?
• 1:56:04
  Marine Park, Brooklyn, Flatbush. Yeah.
• 1:56:07
  Very dynamic. Understands business on a high
• 1:56:11
  level. Really understands people.
• 1:56:13
  Really. I love someone.
• 1:56:14
  I would love to. Would you join?
• 1:56:16
  I would. Really.
• 1:56:17
  Yeah. I like this pattern here.
• 1:56:19
  OK, good. We're building on to something.
• 1:56:21
  Yeah. Any final thoughts guys?
• 1:56:24
  I, I I want to continue for. Yeah, I want to go to like, what
• 1:56:26
  time is it now? I could, but I just want to ask.
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  I want to give a shout out to Rabzish first of all, that he
• 1:56:32
  brought you in, but it's really a a huge thank you to Hashem
• 1:56:36
  that that Rabzish started coming to the shul and started giving
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  sheer because like it's everything is organic and Hashem
• 1:56:44
  really has been taking care of us in amazing ways.
• 1:56:47
  And he came at the right time, like he came and we started
• 1:56:51
  learning together. Before Nate's for a while, I had
• 1:56:54
  AI had a cabrusso and the Ruptia Friedman who moved, who moved to
• 1:56:59
  Israel, actually actually started with Bernie.
• 1:57:02
  I started learning with Bernie 1st and then Ruptia joined us
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  and then and then after Bernie left, he made Alia, which is
• 1:57:09
  really the goal. Every one of us should be,
• 1:57:12
  should have that on our minds and our hearts.
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  And we should all shouldn't scare.
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  We should be Zolka to move as soon as possible, not because
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  we're afraid of anything, but because that's where we belong.
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  Amen. And so I just felt that it was
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  important, like, like, Mom, Hashem really has taken care of
• 1:57:32
  us in every single way. Like, I mean, there's so many
• 1:57:35
  other stories that I can tell you or that we can say about
• 1:57:38
  things that have fallen into place in or Slomo being that
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  Zeesh was the one who kind of brought you in.
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  I feel like it's very important. Thank you, Zeesh.
• 1:57:50
  It's no, it's huge. It's thank you, Hashem.
• 1:57:52
  It's huge. It really is like he, he, you
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  know, he's feeling, he's feeling something where there could have
• 1:58:00
  been a potential vacuum. And it's amazing and we really
• 1:58:03
  appreciate it. We really appreciate him.
• 1:58:06
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