Latest / The Uncensored Catholic / Show 43: God uses evil for good
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- 1:00Hey, y'all, welcome today's show. You know, I've been doing the
- 1:06Misio Day Gospel Reflection usually Thursdays for the past couple of months, and so
- 1:12of course one came out today and I want to talk about that just a
- 1:17little bit, maybe expand a little bit on some of those themes. It's
- 1:23an interesting concept really. It's a part of Catholic doctrine, teaching that God
- 1:29uses evil men. God uses bad things our actions which cause you know,
- 1:41our sins, our bad actions for good. And it's really interesting concept.
- 1:48We'll get into that in a minute, but I'm gonna go ahead and start
- 1:52like I did yesterday, with a couple of questions and answers from the radio
- 1:56Replies series from the nineteen thirties. And if you remember from yesterday, people
- 2:04were writing in to the priests and asking them basically to prove the existence of
- 2:09God. The person today writes in, you, as a priest, argue
- 2:15to a clockmaker, I, as a rationalist, ask who created your uncreated
- 2:21clockmaker? They answer, quite obviously, that is not a rational question.
- 2:29I say that the universe is obviously created, and that what is created supposed
- 2:32as a creator, who is uncreated or the problem goes on forever, the
- 2:38whole endless chain of dependent beings unable to explain itself as each of its links.
- 2:44It is rational to argue to an uncreated clockmaker. It is not rational
- 2:47to ask who created this uncreated clockmaker. God was not created. If he
- 2:52were, he would be a creature, and he would have a creator.
- 2:55His creature would then be God, and not he himself. God always existed,
- 3:01He never began, and never will cease to be. He is eternal.
- 3:06That's interesting if you go back to Saint Irenaeus, like maybe late two
- 3:12hundreds, around three hundred AD, he was countering the gnostic heresy. A
- 3:17lot of a lot of our flawed notions, both Christian and non Christian,
- 3:27really arise out of narcissism. The Nastics, he seems, were founded by
- 3:35Simon, the magician, who you may remember from the books Book of Acts,
- 3:38tried to buy the power of the apostles, and Saint Peter said,
- 3:44may you perish and your silver along with you. He went on and apparently
- 3:49founded it around Samaria, his own church, claiming that he was the Messiah,
- 3:57and mixed sort of vaguely Christian ideas with a lot of Greek mythology and
- 4:10his a concept or the concept of Valentineous or several of his father followers.
- 4:18One of the main ones was that there were multiple heavens, a heaven upon
- 4:23a heaven upon a heaven, each one with its own deities created by another
- 4:30above them and another above them. And if you think about sort of the
- 4:34pantheon of Greek or Roman gods, you can kind of, you know,
- 4:38figure out where he was getting from this getting this from. A lot of
- 4:41it came from the epic poets and their descriptions of like the I guess you
- 4:48would say, what the mythology, the adventures of the gods or whatever.
- 4:54Very evil man, very very evil man, but really one of the first
- 5:01people to truly take the Gospels, to take the teachings of the Church and
- 5:11pervert it into a new church, a new cult. They even came up
- 5:15with what they called the Gospel, the Gospel of Judas, where they tried
- 5:21to present Judas as a someone doing the will of God as opposed to the
- 5:30one who betrayed our Lord. So many of their heresies have lived on in
- 5:39different forms in various Protestant churches. You'll find a lot of nasticism, especially
- 5:44in the Jehovah's Witnesses, Seven day Adventists, Mormonism, a lot of the
- 5:50French groups, but then even more mainline Protestant denominations. The No. Six,
- 6:00for instance, were the first to say what many Protestants believe, once
- 6:03saved, always saved. They believed that once they had their knowledge of God,
- 6:10That's what gnostic means is knowledge, no matter what sin they committed,
- 6:15they would still go to heaven. And many of them were very public sinners,
- 6:24committing adultery and homosexuality and all kinds of stuff. They believed their knowledge
- 6:32of God meant that no matter what they did, they were not only forgiven,
- 6:36but they also argued that they had a duty to commit every sin,
- 6:41none to man. I don't know that many Protestants go that far say that
- 6:46they have a duty, but certainly, when I was at a certain Baptist
- 6:50university, they taught once saved, always saved, And I said, well,
- 6:55you know, if that be the case, why does Saint Paul says
- 6:58he's working out his self vation and fear and suffering, and that he wants
- 7:02or fear and trembling, I think, and that he wants to strive hard
- 7:08to finish the race. If salvation cannot be lost, why would and in
- 7:15many such quotes I gave them several passages. Why did those who wrote the
- 7:18Bible, the saints who founded the church say that salvation could be lost?
- 7:25Why did Jesus himself say that, you know, a man could have demons
- 7:29cast out, the demon would come back with more demons, and he would
- 7:32possess him again and be in a worse state than you know, he wasn't
- 7:36originally. Why did he get the parable of the seed scattered in good ground,
- 7:42bad ground, etc. The seed that he said, those who hear
- 7:46the word but do not keep it wither away like weeds and the sun cast
- 7:51on you know, bad ground, rocky soil. It's not a Christian concept,
- 7:58and yet it's a foundational least of several Protestant denominations. They have to
- 8:03believe that because they don't believe in confessing one sins to a priest. And
- 8:09if you take away confessing one sins to a priest, you are left with
- 8:15only being able to pray directly to God. And if you make the assumption
- 8:20that God's going to forgive you your sins every time you ask, and that
- 8:24assumption essentially says no matter what you do, oh, you have to ask,
- 8:30is just a simple prayer, whether you mean it or not, for
- 8:33forgiveness? And then some go as far as saying not at all that Jesus
- 8:37paid the sacrifice on the cross and all sins are forgiven. So I would
- 8:41ask very rationally in class, well, what if a person you know is
- 8:45at one of your Baptist revivals and he goes to the altar and he confesses
- 8:50his sins and he accepts Jesus Christ's savior and he's baptized, and you know,
- 8:56two weeks later he goes to Helton, robs a bank, shoots five
- 9:00people, you know, kills a police officer, you know, rapes,
- 9:05robs and murders. Is he still saved? And they say, yes,
- 9:09yes he is. And I'd say, well, why then should one why
- 9:13should he a Christian not sin? Well, they say, a true Christian
- 9:16doesn't sin. Well, if a true Christian doesn't sin, and there's no
- 9:18penalty, where exactly's is getting us? And then of course you may know
- 9:26what happened that that particular Baptist university where the you know, chancellor was involved
- 9:33in many many scandals that we will not discuss because the Catechism says, quite
- 9:39rightly, it's not right to discuss other people's scandals. But that concept that
- 9:45so long as you believe in God, you can do whatever and still go
- 9:48to heaven is not only not biblical, it's certainly not caught by the Catholic
- 9:54Church. It doesn't stand to reason. And I mean, it's probably led
- 10:01to a lot of bad stuff, a lot of divorce, a lot of
- 10:03adultery. I can think of a lot of embezzlement among ministers and church leaders,
- 10:13a lot of drug abuse, a lot of real serious perversion, a
- 10:16lot of homosexuality, and such as that. At least the Catholic Church says
- 10:22it's wrong and you need to go confess your sins and the priests will counsel
- 10:26you and give you penance, which is actually what the Bible says. You
- 10:31know, in the Gospel John, those who sends you forgive, they are
- 10:35forgiven. Those who sends you retain, they are retained. Without that,
- 10:39You're a ship without a rudder. I'm just cast about drifting aimlessly, hoping
- 10:45you make it to the shore, hoping the wind. I guess which we
- 10:48could compare to the spirit blows you in the right direction, and that you
- 10:54don't well, they don't believe you can avoid I'm afraid they're going to have
- 10:56a rude awakening. I mean, Jesus said, I mean, he will
- 11:01come to me and say, Lord Lord, did we not believe in your
- 11:03name? Did we not cast out demons of your name? Did not could
- 11:07do miracles in your name? And he will say, I do not know
- 11:11you. They say, just to believe in Jesus. It means salvation.
- 11:16Jesus is saying, these people are going to come and say, Jesus,
- 11:18we believe in you. We even did all these amazing things. And he's
- 11:22gonna say, I don't know you. Be gone from me, go to
- 11:26a place of wailing and gnashing of teeth. We can only hope and pray
- 11:30that does not happen to those who don't understand. Yeah, person I questioned,
- 11:35The priest goes on to say, you talk of universal persuasion. Men
- 11:39used to believe that the world was flat. Well, the answer, A
- 11:43sufficient reason for that error is evident these viz I guess you would say,
- 11:48via the lack of evidence and the fact that men followed their senses, which
- 11:54seemed to say that the Earth was flat. There was not a judgment of
- 11:58pure reason. It's just supplied. No immediate manifestation that there might be a
- 12:03God, to say, indicated that the world might be flat. The cases
- 12:07are not parallel, and the transition from a judgment based upon the senses to
- 12:11one based upon pure reason is not valid. In any case. The scientific
- 12:16and metaphysical proofs justify believe in God quite independently of this psychological reason. They
- 12:24would be valid supposing that only one man in a million believe in God's existence.
- 12:28The latter supposition, however, would never be verified, for the common
- 12:33rational judgment of a vast majority will always intuitively perceive the truth. Now,
- 12:37that's a very fancy way of saying. And I know some people still today
- 12:41believe the world's flat. That's a little bizarre to me. But that,
- 12:48as Thomas Jefferson would say, neither breaks my arm nor picks my pocket.
- 12:50I could not care less if someone thinks the world is flat. I also
- 12:54don't care about the Kennedy assassination, you know, not being a baby.
- 13:00I really couldn't care less. There are other things that I may have,
- 13:07you know, some controversial opinions, But there are other things that people get
- 13:11all worked up about that. I just really don't care about whatsoever. And
- 13:15you can put him upon those the supposed flatness of the earth and the Kennedy
- 13:18assassination. Kennedy was not a very good man whatsoever. Just because he was
- 13:26the first Catholic president does not make him a saint. Yeah, he was
- 13:31probably killed by CIA. Yeah, probably seems to be. You know,
- 13:37LBJ was a Freemason and a clansman, and most of the CIA were also
- 13:43Freemasons, and I don't doubt at all that they could have used Oswald as
- 13:54a useful idiot. He was a Communist, and you know, events came
- 14:01together and allowed the bad guys to prosper by bumping off the first Catholic president,
- 14:05the only one that was in a Freemason. And while Kennedy was far
- 14:09more conservative than Nixon, especially fiscally, Nixon was essentially a socialist. They
- 14:18were both anti communist, and CIA was working with the Communists. And you
- 14:26know, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Venona documents came out
- 14:31and showed that the Kremlin was working with many American politicians, including Ted Kennedy,
- 14:39but also had very strong ties to the Masonic Order, and if it
- 14:43was beneficial to get rid of the first Catholic president who was pretty strongly anti
- 14:46Communist, to benefit a LBJ socialist member of the Masonic Order who may have
- 14:54been a little bit more on the side of Russia Soviet Union, I don't
- 15:00doubt it. But then again, I don't get real worked up about it
- 15:03because Kennedy was really not a very moral or good man. Sorry, he
- 15:11wasn't. I know, a lot of you know, Catholics think he just
- 15:13hung the moon, but he was pretty much a real scoundrel. So so,
- 15:18you know, I'm sorry, baby Boomers. I don't get all worked
- 15:22out that you're, you know, hero adulterous president got shot. I kind
- 15:30of got over that one a long time ago, like when I was ten
- 15:33years old watching the X Files or something. I just assume, yep,
- 15:37yep, yep, government probably had something to do with it. Time to
- 15:39move on, all right, anyway. And I'm about the same way with
- 15:43flat Earth or something like, yeah, all right, you believe that that's
- 15:46cool. I couldn't go less if you think the world's flat, you know,
- 15:50just go walking into any direction, see if you fall off, and
- 15:54if you do, hey, you're right, I guess so you've proven that
- 15:58much. But anyway, the point on this statement, what the priests were
- 16:03saying, is that primitive man could not perceive what was beyond his vision.
- 16:15He thought the world might be flat and one could go and fall off.
- 16:22To compare that to this person says, well, why would you believe in
- 16:26God? Just because people in the past believed in God, they also used
- 16:30to think the world was flat. That would limit the perception of anything to
- 16:37the human senses. Whereas primitive man could only see so far into the distance
- 16:42and did not know what was out there, the mind of man, the
- 16:48sensitivity has given us by God, can point a truth that our physical senses
- 16:53cannot and well, where the main things would be miracles, our physical reason
- 17:03and senses cannot understand miracles there beyond home human understanding or ability to recreate.
- 17:12As I have mentioned before, I was paralyzed with a debilitating, lifelong back
- 17:18injury, and some people prayed for me and my spine was healed in an
- 17:22instant. The doctors could not understand the X rays look like two different people.
- 17:26Because I was healed. That is a miracle beyond human reasoning. But
- 17:33even with our just simple rational minds we can understand, and everything we know,
- 17:41from ourselves to everything around us owes its existence to something else. The
- 17:48desk in front of me comes from wood that came from a tree, that
- 17:51came from a seed that came from a previous tree, that came from a
- 17:53previous tree, a previous tree, a previous tree. With the energy from
- 17:56the sun and the nutrients of the soil, it can exist on its own.
- 18:02It could not bring itself into existence. An oak tree is formed from
- 18:10an acorn, and acorns formed from an oak tree. The plant itself could
- 18:15not bring itself into existence. It had to be created by a create tour.
- 18:21The create tour of everything is something without a create tour, it is
- 18:30whole in and of itself. It was not created. So therefore the so
- 18:36called clockmaker, if you want to use an analogy that Thomas Jefferson is rather
- 18:41flawed. Never was fond of that. What they called that is it rationalist
- 18:48argument that basically God just sets everything in motion like a clockmaker, winds it
- 18:52up and lets it go and walks away. Because miracles and answers to prayer
- 18:59would not fit into that model, nor would the sacrificial death and resurrection of
- 19:04Jesus Christ. God came to redeem man, and the clockmaker would not.
- 19:11The clockmaker just builds the clock, winds it up, and walks away.
- 19:17Not only that, but the gears themselves would have to be willingly repaired by
- 19:22the clockmaker. See, because God gives us free will, that analogy does
- 19:26not work. If you do not wish to be saved, God will not
- 19:30save you. If you do not wish to be healed, God will not
- 19:33heal you. If you do not pray and worship God, God will not
- 19:40be active in your life. You have free will to accept God or deny
- 19:45God as you please, And the gears of a clock do not have that
- 19:48if they were being maintained or wound by a clockmaker. So it's a very
- 19:53faulty, very faulty analogy. But now let's get into one of those odd
- 19:59const apps in today's gospel. We really revisit a story I actually wrote about
- 20:07last week. And if you're on a subject newsletter, I usually send my
- 20:11missing a Day gospel reflections to you when I write them. It's just a
- 20:15little bonus feature, you know, no big deal. We were talking about
- 20:21how in many instances in the history of the Bible. The younger brother receives
- 20:26the inheritance due the older brother. These are all essentially analogies that repeat throughout
- 20:37the Old Testament, you know, from starting with Esaul and and all that.
- 20:44And they're they're bleeding up to remember the Old Testament for shadows a New
- 20:48Testament. The New Testament explains the Old Testament how God would call the Jews
- 20:55the hebrew people to be as chosen people, and that they would reject him
- 20:59to time and time again, and eventually what their their inheritance, their gift
- 21:07as God's chosen people, would be taken and given to the younger brother,
- 21:14the Christian. That's you know. Jesus says, you are no longer slaves
- 21:18to the law, but you are heirs. He makes us brothers and sisters
- 21:25in Christ. Jew and gentile alike who follow him are adopted into the family
- 21:30of God through Jesus Christ. The younger brother takes from the older brother what
- 21:34was rightfully due the older brothers. But like while Esau he traded his inheritance
- 21:41for bold lentils, he could not he was attached to the things of the
- 21:45world that he was attached to temporal things and not to the eternal things.
- 21:52When we get to Joseph, Joseph of the you know, the technical or
- 21:57dream Code, whatever ridiculous musical is all about. Now, Joseph, the
- 22:03one that was favored by his father. His brothers took him an originally one
- 22:10to kill him, through him in a cistern, you know, neck deep
- 22:12in mud to die, and then pulled him out and sold him into slavery
- 22:17to Egypt. He goes there, he's a slave. He's really blessed by
- 22:22God though, and he raises up, rises up through the ranks. He
- 22:25becomes second in command of all of Egypt under the Pharaoh. And during a
- 22:29famine, his family comes to him, not even knowing it's their brother,
- 22:33and he gives him grain, he keeps him alive, and then he reconciles
- 22:38with them. And you know, that's that's how God saved his people was
- 22:45through the evil intentions of those younger brothers. You know, consider that,
- 22:52Consider that in their jealousy his older brothers, and each of these brothers became
- 22:59the heads of one of the tribes of Israel. This is the analogies are
- 23:03you know, remember there's the Old Testament is very symbolic. We make a
- 23:08big mistake when we just read it literally as if we were reading a newspaper.
- 23:14The Encyclopedia Britannica. There were twelve brothers that became the Twelve, the
- 23:18heads of the twelve tribes of Israel. Well, so essentially all Israel was
- 23:25saved through the evil actions of Joshua's brothers. Another correlation, as I mentioned
- 23:33before, you know, our Torah observant friends that tell us we're going to
- 23:41hell because we go to church on Sunday, insists that Jesus's name must be
- 23:45pronounced Yeshua or Yeshua. Well, that's Hebrew for Joshua. So in many
- 23:53ways, Joshua's saving the people of Israel is an an nowology or similar even
- 24:02to Jesus's saving of all of humanity. So God used evil intentions for good.
- 24:14That's that's that's something I mean. Let it sink in. And if
- 24:18we think in the life of Jesus, we have no salvation without the crucifixion,
- 24:30death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and that only comes through the
- 24:33evil actions of Judas. Now that does not excuse Judas's evil actions. Very
- 24:41likely Satan tempted all of the twelve Apostles and probably tempted m Saint Peter and
- 24:51Judas most Even though Saint Peter would deny Jesus, he would not betrayed Jesus.
- 25:00And Jesus made him the foundation stone upon which he would build his church,
- 25:07and went to him and said three times, Peter, do you love
- 25:11me? And he said, feed my sheep. He made him the shepherd
- 25:15of the church. Very we can get way into that. There's so much,
- 25:19so much parallels, so many parallels, and so many allegories between the
- 25:26images of shepherds throughout the Bible. But Jesus made Saint Peter the shepherd.
- 25:30Whereas Judas, through his free will, betrayed Jesus. And Jesus said of
- 25:37the one who betrayed him, it would be better had the man never been
- 25:41born. Judas chose whether it's through greed, whether you know for the silver,
- 25:49said that he was stealing from the treasury of the Apostles. Anyway,
- 25:53he was apparently very tempted by greed. He may have had political aspirations.
- 25:59He may even thought he could force Jesus to rise up and conquer the Roman
- 26:07people if his life was threatened. That's another idea. Some people have had.
- 26:11No one knows for sure. For whatever reason, Judas did betray Jesus
- 26:18through his own free will and consigned himself to eternal damnation and committed suicide thereafter
- 26:26without with no chance of repentance. So as you just said, it would
- 26:32be better for him had he never lived. So in no way to God
- 26:36prevent no way. God supersede the free will of the individual. He did
- 26:44not force him to betray Jesus. Very likely he brought temptations against several of
- 26:49the Apostles, and most likely Saint Peter and Judas the most one of them
- 26:56would fall. Remember twelve is also considered like a universal number, so the
- 27:03twelve our representative of all mankind. But God used the betrayal of Judas for
- 27:11good, no matter how much the devil tried to destroy Jesus through Judas.
- 27:18Through the crucifixion, death, and resurrection of our Lord, all humanity received
- 27:26the opportunity should through our free will as we accepted salvation, and all creation
- 27:34was redeemed. Sin and death entered the world for our first parents sins,
- 27:41and the beginning of the renewal of the entire universe is the resurrection of our
- 27:48of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You know, I know many people
- 27:55are suffering right now, just in my own circle of friends. You know,
- 28:00I've got one dear friend who's in dire financial straits, lives in another
- 28:04country. I can't help her, but you know, all I can do
- 28:07is pray for her. She's having a really hard time dealing with some family
- 28:11issues and financial issues. It's not good. Another dear friend, a real
- 28:19good Protestant friend, one of the most religious people I know, was in
- 28:23a terrible auto accident a couple of weeks ago. He's still in the hospital
- 28:27recovering from surgeries, barely survived, and it's really bad. I mean,
- 28:33he's seriously injured. And another one is my friend in Ukraine who lives in
- 28:41Odessa, who is just literally trying to survive from day to day. That's
- 28:45just three of several people just in my immediate circle who are going through really
- 28:51bad struggles. And you know, all I can do is pray for them.
- 28:55But what really stands out is the faith of each I mean, they're
- 29:00each of them seem to be praying more and have a stronger faith in God's
- 29:03providence than ever before. And the same true of their families. I mean,
- 29:07my friend who was in the car accident, really good Protestant Christian,
- 29:14whole communities are praying for him. I mean this, you know, kind
- 29:18of quiet guy who works at a grocery store, who just stops and talks
- 29:25with everybody and ask them how they're doing, and if they're not doing well,
- 29:29ask if he can say a prayer for them. He takes some time
- 29:32on weekends to do some mission work and such. Real humble, real quiet,
- 29:37humble guy. The entire communities of Protestant, Catholic, non religious I
- 29:45mean barely religious, I guess agnostic whatever, people are praying. Thousands of
- 29:51people are praying for him, tens of thousands. There was even an article
- 29:53about him in the local newspaper. I mean, he's touched so many people's
- 29:59life. It is just by just by caring about people and there, I
- 30:03mean, the the outpouring of support for him is incredible. My friend that's
- 30:11going through so many financial struggles is now going to daily mass and praying,
- 30:15you know, three three rosaries a day, you know the one in Ukraine.
- 30:22Her house was burned down by a Russian missile strike. Uh, she's
- 30:26come back, She's gotten another apartment, she's taking care of her family,
- 30:30and you know, just praying and trying to get through one day at a
- 30:36time. I mean, you know, I have some my own issues,
- 30:40don't I don't talk about him. I've been going through a lot um but
- 30:44I mean in comparison, no matter how hard my struggles are, it's nothing
- 30:48compared to them, and each one of them is showing, you know,
- 30:52heroic faith. I don't know how. I mean, He's going to take
- 30:59a miracle for each one of these people that I just mentioned, but I
- 31:02know God's gonna work out everything for good. That's his promise. And you
- 31:07know, by definition, God cannot lie. God who can speak anything into
- 31:11creation, but he cannot lie anything he says is true. He's the author
- 31:18of truth. Faith is a belief in things that are unseen and even by
- 31:25behind our ability to understand. I don't know how Everything's gonna work out,
- 31:27but I know we can trust in God's promises. As our Lord said,
- 31:33not one sparrow falls without his notice, and he loves us so much more.
- 31:40You know, I talked about that quite a bit yesterday, So go
- 31:42back to that show if you don't remember this one. But anyway, but
- 31:48by no means started these glid woords. I mean, imagine the suffering of
- 31:52Joseph awaiting his death, sunk deep into the mud of a sister, and
- 31:56imagine being made a slave. He was likely now nourished, beaten, and
- 32:00forced to do unpleasant work. Many times. The world is absolutely full of
- 32:05suffering right now, and has been since the fall of man. But the
- 32:07Bible also tells us those who endure to the end will be saved. And
- 32:13that is another one of God's promises. I've seen in my own life.
- 32:16I can tell you the depression when I was paralyzed. I've been through financial
- 32:22hardships. Two thousand and eight, I had started a business that went under
- 32:28in the financial collapse. I ended up a half million dollars in debt in
- 32:30the blink of an eye, with no job. Went through a lot of
- 32:35hard times, went through a lot of struggles, doing a lot of things
- 32:38I didn't want to do, a lot of sacrifices. Basically, ten years
- 32:44of my life just kind of lost, but came out on the other side.
- 32:47God provided, God will always provide. God works all things together for
- 32:52our good. If we only had the foresight to see how things were going
- 32:58to turn out we would never lose faith. So y'all, in the words
- 33:05of Saint Padre Pio, pray, hope and don't worry. And I guess
- 33:09I'm signing off for this week. I'll talk to you next week. Have
- 33:13a good one.