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Sister Wives Season 21 Episode 4 “The Pink Elephant in the Room” · Vanity Farah with Chris Farah

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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone. Welcome back to Vanity Fair. My name is
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Speaker 1: Chris Farah, and I am continuing my reign, honey, of
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Speaker 1: Sister Wives. It's season 21. It's episode four. It's the
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Speaker 1: pink elephant in the room. Listen, I'm excited for this episode.
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Speaker 1: It means a lot of great things are happening because
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Speaker 1: Cody has left, which is that women are, A, talking
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Speaker 1: shit about him, and also, B, realizing that they are
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Speaker 1: good women. They are safe right now in their lives
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Speaker 1: where they are, much better than how they felt before.
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Speaker 1: And therefore, they are able to deal with the fact
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Speaker 1: that they knew each other, created a show, and have
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Speaker 1: to film scenes together. And of course, they also share
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Speaker 1: kids together. And so there is this sense of we're
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Speaker 1: doing a healing kind of meeting between people that have
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Speaker 1: felt wronged a, because we have kids and we have
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Speaker 1: to be in similar situations like weddings or holidays, but
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Speaker 1: also the unspoken thing is that they keep continue to
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Speaker 1: film the show. And maybe they've tried to pitch like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: how about four different stories? Like instead of four different stories,
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Speaker 1: cause I didn't know he'd like, you know, Robin was
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Speaker 1: going to go. It's like, now it's three different stories.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like if sex in the city is
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Speaker 1: Carrie left Sex and the City and then the three
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Speaker 1: just went on without her, but never actually filmed together
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Speaker 1: and did like a brunch meetup. They just kind of
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Speaker 1: like just did their lives and never talked. Can we
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Speaker 1: do that? And Sister Wives producers were like, no, Mary, Christine,
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Speaker 1: get over it. And Janelle, you know, make up with Mary.
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Speaker 1: And I mean, Janelle and Christine try and allow Mary
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Speaker 1: to like be in this. So it's not the worst.
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Speaker 1: And you know what? It's interesting because so many people
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Speaker 1: have drawn hard lines like Christine for sure. And Mary
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Speaker 1: and Janelle has drawn like, you know, really fuzzy lines, honestly,
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Speaker 1: but off camera. The women are not taking watching this
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Speaker 1: really well. And that's another thing. There is a lot
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Speaker 1: of therapy talk on sister wives. And there's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of therapy talk. Cody had a lot of therapy talk.
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Speaker 1: The minute we started hearing Cody say things like this
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Speaker 1: feels unsafe, it was like, oh, he has gone to
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Speaker 1: a therapist that has given him an arsenal of words
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Speaker 1: and lingo that he can use to get himself out
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Speaker 1: of situations that people like deserve his truth about. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? And he really dodged that. Also
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Speaker 1: used Robin, you know, and a lot of what he
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Speaker 1: was doing was Robin's wording. And so It's very interesting.
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Speaker 1: So that's always been a part of this. And the women,
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Speaker 1: of course, leaving him have obviously gone on journeys of
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Speaker 1: therapy and therefore now have their own semblance of how
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Speaker 1: they were treated in the family. And then you can
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Speaker 1: see them kind of buckle up against that in the
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Speaker 1: way that they get triggered in their fills. So having
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Speaker 1: said all of this, let's get in. It's going to
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Speaker 1: be like a little bit of a three-part series. solo,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I guess, yeah, solo journey for each woman,
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Speaker 1: and then we come together, as you know. Janelle, so...
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Speaker 1: Janelle gets a visit in her hometown from her friend, Christina.
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Speaker 1: Now we know Christina. We saw Christina when they met
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Speaker 1: up in Arizona. Christina was her friend in Arizona. And
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Speaker 1: she talks about the fact that she basically didn't have
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Speaker 1: any friends like the entire time that they were living
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Speaker 1: in Utah because it was illegal. And so she couldn't
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Speaker 1: just go ahead and make friends because it was awkward
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Speaker 1: to be in like a coworker friendly situation when they're like,
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Speaker 1: what are you going to do on this weekend? And
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Speaker 1: she's like, I'm going to go to my sister wife's
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Speaker 1: house and then go to my other sister wife's uh
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Speaker 1: parents house and then my husband is going to spend
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Speaker 1: one night with me and then you know one night
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Speaker 1: with her you know so it's like she had to
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Speaker 1: really curtail interpersonal communication in like relationships because she couldn't
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Speaker 1: you know really be open and vulnerable so here she
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Speaker 1: is so god bless so christina also we should know
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Speaker 1: when we last saw christina she was in a scene
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Speaker 1: with janelle's other friend and christina's other friend a woman
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Speaker 1: named angela god bless her in rip she unfortunately i
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Speaker 1: believe is the the nice lady that no longer is
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Speaker 1: on this realm. And so Christina, however, has been on
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Speaker 1: Sister Wives before. We've seen her. So if that rings
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Speaker 1: a bell, that's who Christina is. And now she's in
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Speaker 1: North Carolina, honey, and she's going to help Janelle live
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Speaker 1: her best life. Now, Janelle's whole story through line of
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Speaker 1: this season is I am going to take life back
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Speaker 1: by the horns. I'm going to do things for me.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to expand my horizons. I'm going to push myself.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to try and feel the experience and do
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Speaker 1: the experiences I haven't done, even though it scares me.
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Speaker 1: And I'd rather not. Now, this is a very interesting
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Speaker 1: and relatable storyline to get back into life, you know, like,
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Speaker 1: and I get it, Janelle, and it's like just happening
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Speaker 1: for you, right? How gorgeous, how amazing. The only fun
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Speaker 1: thing about that is that she's now fully like trying
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Speaker 1: to be a life coach when it feels like there
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Speaker 1: should be like a 10 to 20 year difference between
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Speaker 1: this moment that we're seeing Janelle live, which is, you know,
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Speaker 1: her figuring out how to live. And then I don't know,
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Speaker 1: coaching people to do it. You know, that's okay, but
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Speaker 1: God bless. Okay. They are going to go country line
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Speaker 1: dancing and Before then, though, she shows off her closets.
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Speaker 1: She gets to her friend Christina in her new home,
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Speaker 1: and she's happy about that. She needs Christina to, I guess,
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Speaker 1: also validate and see what she's done for herself. She
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Speaker 1: also needs a best friend to take her into a
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Speaker 1: social space. She's like, if I meet a man, Christina
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Speaker 1: can do the talking, or I just look at him.
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Speaker 1: And she feels... Listen... Definitely someone who judges herself. And
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Speaker 1: therefore I do feel like she judges others. You know,
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Speaker 1: she is very self-conscious. She is self-conscious about whether she's
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Speaker 1: going to wear a hat. She's self-conscious about how she's
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Speaker 1: going to look. She talks about how she only can
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Speaker 1: really consider doing structured kind of dancing. The idea of
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Speaker 1: free form or letting loose is not for her. And
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Speaker 1: then they have flashbacks of Cody, who, I mean, is
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Speaker 1: the male, you know, Elaine from Seinfeld. I mean, Cody's
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Speaker 1: dancing is, I'm assuming, either like born from watching that
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Speaker 1: or just the person that in real life that character
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Speaker 1: is made out of. Just side note, it's so funny.
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Speaker 1: It's like sometimes when I, because I'm, you know, in
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Speaker 1: a whole comedy school learning how to do character acting.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you see a crazy character, you're like, that
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Speaker 1: seems wild. But the truth of the matter is sometimes
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Speaker 1: you see that person in real life. You're like, wow. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So she's worried and nervous because she knows she's not
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Speaker 1: going to look great. And it's interesting that she's nervous,
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Speaker 1: you know, because it's like we've also watched you and
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Speaker 1: your whole life like, you know, really transform. And at
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Speaker 1: one point, you know, fall apart. We've seen you guys
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Speaker 1: yell at each other and God bless. And we've seen
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Speaker 1: like so much like who cares about a one, two,
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Speaker 1: do-si-do grapevine. But it's interesting how people can like hold
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Speaker 1: on to certain insecurities. You know, I think that it's
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Speaker 1: she says that she's like, I want to see if
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Speaker 1: my body still works again. And I wonder what happens
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Speaker 1: if she can actually feel her body, feel her presence,
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Speaker 1: feel like not just more like her sexuality or her
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Speaker 1: feminine spirit, like get rid of that, like literally feel
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Speaker 1: the way her body feels and have a certain trust
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Speaker 1: in its movement. I think that it would really be
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Speaker 1: great for her. I think there's something about the way
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Speaker 1: that you move your body. And the women all talk
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Speaker 1: about clothing this episode, too. Like the way your body moves,
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Speaker 1: the way that you look down and feel in your body,
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Speaker 1: like the way that the clothes that you wear, the
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Speaker 1: way that you can express yourself in those ways are
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Speaker 1: obviously connected. And to just put on something that feels
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Speaker 1: good on your body, but is like maybe a little
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Speaker 1: loose in some areas and tight in some areas and
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Speaker 1: just like hugs a certain body. and like makes you
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Speaker 1: feel like you're about to kill it. That kind of fun,
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Speaker 1: flirty fit coupled with, if you can, a fun, flirty
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Speaker 1: dance is an electric feeling I hope for all people,
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Speaker 1: you know? So anyway, so, and I want that for her.
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Speaker 1: So this is a line dancing classic in like a
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Speaker 1: fun barn-esque distillery establishment. And Christina and her are both like,
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Speaker 1: we don't want to do this. And I'm like, well,
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Speaker 1: then why did you guys decide to do this? But
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Speaker 1: that's funny. And also Christina, like, this is the time
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Speaker 1: I really need you to be like, come on, it'll
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Speaker 1: be fun. You know? Okay. Yeah. But it's fun. If
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Speaker 1: they actually end up having a good time, they say
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Speaker 1: it's a beginner class, which is good. And they get
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Speaker 1: some like fun shots of people doing some things. And
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Speaker 1: you know, Janelle picks it up and also it's awkward.
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Speaker 1: And let me just say, I have a really hard
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Speaker 1: time learning choreography. Like I've always had a hard time
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Speaker 1: with our feet. I'm sorry. I can't even say it.
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Speaker 1: I've always had a hard time learning choreography. It has
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Speaker 1: singularly kept me off of the Broadway stage. Because I
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Speaker 1: know I can't go to an audition and it's a five, six, seven, eight.
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Speaker 1: I saw what happens in chorus line. I know it's
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Speaker 1: not for me. I can't do it. I can't memorize it.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, Chris, can you just go ahead and
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Speaker 1: commit to like a series of dance classes, like hip
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Speaker 1: hop classes at like a gym, honey, something. So you
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Speaker 1: can just see if you can remember like, but this
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Speaker 1: is what it is. You learn, let's just say an
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Speaker 1: eight count and then when you have to actually do
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Speaker 1: it again, it's like, oh no, what happens next? Like
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Speaker 1: in the moment, you're like, okay, this, oh no. Like
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Speaker 1: the oh no moment of like, I keep forgetting and
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Speaker 1: then it's too late. And then we're on to the
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Speaker 1: next and then we're on to the next and then
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Speaker 1: we're on the next. See, if you mess up one moment,
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Speaker 1: it's hard to jump back in. Maybe. I think I
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Speaker 1: have to think it more maybe as an improv and
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Speaker 1: just do something and then just try and get to
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Speaker 1: the B. But I think that there's just, yeah, there's
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Speaker 1: lots of different ways to memorize choreography. I'm not good
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Speaker 1: at it and surely she's, it's difficult for her too.
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Speaker 1: So afterwards they take a break outside and it's a
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Speaker 1: really beautiful outdoor area. Probably, I'm assuming there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of weddings that happen there. You know, there's Mason Jar,
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Speaker 1: Twinkle Lights, board kind of weddings, you know, um, chalkboard writing.
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Speaker 1: She says that even though it was scary, her and
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Speaker 1: her friend didn't want to go in. She did. And
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Speaker 1: she has to remember the feeling. She has to know
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Speaker 1: in her bones, the feeling of dread walking into something.
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Speaker 1: And then also the feeling of relief and, or that
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Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal or boy, do I catastrophize things
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Speaker 1: as she walks out to be like, that was great.
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Speaker 1: And I think that surely it's, hard to remember the
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Speaker 1: joy and the reward, you know? And I think that,
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of things can be compared to that.
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Speaker 1: I prepping your breakfast the night before, or not wanting
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Speaker 1: to go to the gym or not wanting to do
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Speaker 1: whatever kind of movement that speaks to you, like on
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Speaker 1: a walk or whatever, but also having to be like,
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Speaker 1: I remember the feeling when I get back and be like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I accomplished that. I did it. And also once I
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Speaker 1: put my shoes on and I'm like out the door
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, 10 steps in the sun. I'm usually
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Speaker 1: very happy, especially if there's music on, but I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell? What? I forget how great this is.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I do that with showering. I'm like, oh, do
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Speaker 1: I want to take a shower right now? Not, no.
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Speaker 1: And then I get in the shower. I'm like, oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: I forgot. It's great. So, you know, I think that
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Speaker 1: it's interesting. Isn't human behavior so weird? I don't know. Okay. So, um,
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Speaker 1: she said that You know, she obviously is on this
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Speaker 1: journey to open up her life. And again, it's just
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Speaker 1: so funny. I wrote here, why would this woman decide
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Speaker 1: to be a life coach? It's just quite a jump
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Speaker 1: from just exploring the newfound worlds of life to just
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Speaker 1: being like, and now I'll coach people on it. Girl,
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Speaker 1: people have lived full on lives. People have been dancing
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Speaker 1: and have had friends. I mean, no offense, Janelle. I mean,
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Speaker 1: come on. I mean, maybe there's a certain like sect
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Speaker 1: of women who are like, please coach me from going
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Speaker 1: from polygamy to real world. In which case I'd be like, okay.
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Speaker 1: But I honestly know, and so do you, that anyone
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Speaker 1: who's paying her is like some weird rabid fan who's like, hi, Janelle, yes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: coach me for my life problems. I'll so, uh, professional. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's not because I've watched you on the show and
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Speaker 1: I'm weird and I want to have some parasocial relationship
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Speaker 1: with you, you know? Okay. Let's jump. Christine, honey, she's
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Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, Utah, and she, and David had
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Speaker 1: decided to play some board games. Now they have hopped
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Speaker 1: on Instagram mad as hell. over some of the discourse
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Speaker 1: Mary has had with her friends Jen and Amber over the, like,
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Speaker 1: polyg photo and maybe not feeling understood. It's so funny
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Speaker 1: because as this episode goes on, we truly realize Christine
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Speaker 1: and Mary have a lot of similar grievances. Everyone truly
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Speaker 1: feels like no one had power. Everyone was in better
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Speaker 1: situations than them. And they couldn't say anything except bleed
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Speaker 1: and give and bleed and give to an ever hungry
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Speaker 1: family Cody hole that only required an ass and demanded
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Speaker 1: more and, and made them feel like they weren't ever
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Speaker 1: giving our good enough. And like, that is sad, but
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Speaker 1: they all felt it, which is so interesting at the
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Speaker 1: same time though, Mary will least acquiesce that at some
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Speaker 1: points she had the loudest voice, which feels like girl. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you did for the majority of the time until Robin
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Speaker 1: got there. And I think the loudest voice here means
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Speaker 1: that your voice wasn't a great voice. It wasn't a
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Speaker 1: loving voice. It wasn't like a Julie Andrews kind of voice. Listen,
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Speaker 1: if Julie Andrews was the first wife and her voice
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Speaker 1: was dominant, I would be fine with it. I'd be like, yep,
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Speaker 1: that's why I moved in. That's why I married into
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Speaker 1: this family. It wasn't for Cody. It was for that
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Speaker 1: voice and that voice only. But that's not Mary's voice.
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Speaker 1: That's not a great voice. And yeah, no one liked it.
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Speaker 1: Not one. So anyway, listen, Christine's like, listen, I just
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Speaker 1: married this guy, David, like for, I have known him
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Speaker 1: for four years. I'm obsessed with him and truly he's great.
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Speaker 1: And he saved my life. At the same time, I
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Speaker 1: probably live in a patriarchal world where I felt maybe
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Speaker 1: like a man needed to save me from the older man,
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Speaker 1: from the other man that I was with. And I
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Speaker 1: just kind of monkey jumped from one to another, but
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Speaker 1: we love each other. God bless. And yes, they feel
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Speaker 1: wronged in their, you know, portrayal. Christine feels like she's
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Speaker 1: villainized this season, which is so funny because it's like, girl,
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Speaker 1: you're not Emma on Hunt for Love. Okay, come on.
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Speaker 1: So these are like relationship compatibility game board games. I
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Speaker 1: guess in my mind, you're supposed to play them with
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Speaker 1: other couples, but maybe, yeah, you can just play them
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Speaker 1: with each other. But playing with each other is just
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Speaker 1: asking each other vague questions. You could just do that yourself.
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Speaker 1: But here they are, like questions like, what could you
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Speaker 1: do if you could do anything without repercussions for a day?
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Speaker 1: And Christine's like, oh, I would just go on vacation.
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Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, I'd fuck Elizabeth Hurley. What? Christine's like, oh, oh.
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Speaker 1: Now here's what's interesting about Christine. Christine is never going
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Speaker 1: to want to like have an art, like show a
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Speaker 1: crack in the artifice that she isn't completely happy with
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Speaker 1: the very fast decision that she made. So Christine isn't
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Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, that's not something I would
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Speaker 1: like you to say. That's weird. Okay. More specific, but okay.
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Speaker 1: Christine's going to be like, oh, so funny, David. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: me too. I love her too. Give me a hall
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Speaker 1: pass for that Elizabeth Hurley. Yep. Loved Austin Powers, you know. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so they talk about then when they first were attracted
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Speaker 1: to each other. And for David, it was Christine's looks. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, that, listen, okay. And the fact that he
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Speaker 1: didn't have to save her, you know, that he had
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Speaker 1: probably been Captain Saban, I can't talk, Captain Save-A-Ho. And listen,
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Speaker 1: she was a sister wife. She had saved herself already
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Speaker 1: from that situation. even though it was very close timing.
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Speaker 1: And yes, it would be lovely to see people really
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Speaker 1: ground themselves in a present version of themselves, know themselves
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Speaker 1: and then pick a partner. But you also have to
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Speaker 1: assume that the world isn't going to go the way
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Speaker 1: you want it to and leave room and grace for
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Speaker 1: people to fall in love. Okay. Okay. So Christine's like, well,
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Speaker 1: obviously his eyes, his eyes are blue, real crystal blue.
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Speaker 1: I love that. But also he loves his family and
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Speaker 1: he makes me feel safe. Um, and she's, this is
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Speaker 1: where she talked about the fact that she always had
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Speaker 1: to be, uh, something else because she wasn't enough for Cody,
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Speaker 1: that Mary was considered the perfect wife who put away
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Speaker 1: all the dishes, washed them on time and told her
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Speaker 1: how to cook and was, you know, overall a really
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Speaker 1: good household manager. And Janelle was good with money and understood,
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Speaker 1: I think, how the world worked in a way that
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Speaker 1: like Cody and her could converse. And Cody has like
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Speaker 1: an ADHD mind. And I think that Janelle's role was
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Speaker 1: kind of like Cody's clawed AI chat bot, you know,
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Speaker 1: like sort of thinker, philosophizer, like think tank where he
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Speaker 1: could just talk about things and then she would try
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Speaker 1: and pinpoint and focus him and like gave him, I think, clarity.
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Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, he felt like he trusted her
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Speaker 1: opinion on that more so than it feels like Mary and,
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Speaker 1: you know, Christine, I don't think Christine wanted that role
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Speaker 1: for very long. Like, I think that Christine, for better
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Speaker 1: or for worse, really bought in, and I get it,
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Speaker 1: a certain docile, soft life, soft wife idea that she wanted. Like,
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Speaker 1: I think that Christine always being like, I want to
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Speaker 1: be the third wife was because in her mind, she
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Speaker 1: wanted to be the last, the best, the prettiest, the youngest,
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Speaker 1: the most cherished, the one that was going to be
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Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, like the one that was easy,
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Speaker 1: like a baby wife. Like, you know how you would
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Speaker 1: consider treating your baby sister? Like that is in a
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Speaker 1: wife form, you know, like she wanted that. And I
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Speaker 1: think that she also really leaned into being a mom
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Speaker 1: for sure. And like a mom and a caretaker. And
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Speaker 1: she wanted, I think, to be like, that should be
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Speaker 1: enough because I take care of so many kids. I
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Speaker 1: taught Janelle's kids how to drive. That is enough. But
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Speaker 1: it wasn't enough, I guess, for Cody to like validate
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Speaker 1: that for her. And I honestly feel bad for Christine. Like,
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Speaker 1: you know, Christine could have been like, I do so
18:16
Speaker 1: fucking much. You guys are crazy, you know? But anyway,
18:19
Speaker 1: so- Um, they, next lateral thing is they have to
18:25
Speaker 1: kiss without looking at each other. Um, and then they
18:28
Speaker 1: start to do like more sexy stuff. He says he
18:30
Speaker 1: likes role-playing. She likes car sex, um, which I thought
18:33
Speaker 1: was interesting. And then they talk about whether they would
18:35
Speaker 1: move across the country for each other. And she's like,
18:38
Speaker 1: I would move across the country for him if he
18:39
Speaker 1: got his dream job. But he's like, I don't know
18:41
Speaker 1: what my dream job is. And she's like, well, your
18:43
Speaker 1: dream job should be being a tour guide. Now be
18:45
Speaker 1: your driver. I'm like, for the pyramids, is he Mito? No.
18:48
Speaker 1: not to keep making 90 day cross references, but what?
18:52
Speaker 1: She just wants to travel. I'm like this girl, get
18:54
Speaker 1: this girl, honey, like a Delta mileage credit card, because listen,
18:59
Speaker 1: Christine wants to see some things. I get it, girl,
19:02
Speaker 1: get it. So Mary, honey, Mary comes over and into
19:06
Speaker 1: what is like, I'm listening. Oh, sorry. Jen comes over
19:09
Speaker 1: into Mary's house, which I mean, Mary obviously loves green.
19:11
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the straight whiz wizard. Like, I mean,
19:14
Speaker 1: everything is green everywhere. All of the kitchen, what she's wearing,
19:18
Speaker 1: she's planting a green plant into like a green planter.
19:21
Speaker 1: And she is like, is this too much? And Jen's like, uh-huh. Yeah. No,
19:28
Speaker 1: but yes. Just like you've over watered your plants. You've
19:30
Speaker 1: over greened this room, you know? And Jen's like, but
19:34
Speaker 1: Jen does give like, Jen gives Mary's second hand, you know,
19:41
Speaker 1: second mate kind of energy. So they talk about having
19:43
Speaker 1: a conversation again with Christine. Christine hates these kinds of conversations.
19:47
Speaker 1: They talk about her. Mary says she knows Christine at
19:49
Speaker 1: one point vocalized, not wanting to have anything to do
19:52
Speaker 1: with her. But now after this ring talk, it's like
19:53
Speaker 1: confusing because it's like, how do I move forward? If
19:55
Speaker 1: she now wants to burn these wings rings down with me,
19:58
Speaker 1: it's my ring. And this person also literally said, I
20:00
Speaker 1: want nothing to do with you. So it's like, what,
20:02
Speaker 1: what is it? What, how do I move? Um, And
20:06
Speaker 1: also Christine says she didn't want to ever bring up
20:08
Speaker 1: the past in conversations. But Mary's also like, and Christine
20:11
Speaker 1: literally also said that I know why she's upset and
20:15
Speaker 1: I don't. So it's like, how do I move forward
20:17
Speaker 1: without discussing it? What's why A, you're mad, B, calling
20:21
Speaker 1: it out. And then also C, like moving through it.
20:24
Speaker 1: And the truth is Mary's right. It's weird. And I mean,
20:27
Speaker 1: Christine has to pick her battles. Christine didn't want to
20:31
Speaker 1: leave the show. Christine wanted to stay on the show.
20:34
Speaker 1: And Christine, for some reason, thought she really could just
20:37
Speaker 1: burn every bridge down and then never have to deal
20:40
Speaker 1: with it again. But that's not really what happened. Right?
20:42
Speaker 1: That's not really what happened. So... She reckons with the
20:50
Speaker 1: idea that maybe it was that she didn't stand up
20:52
Speaker 1: for Christine when Cody accused Christine of never trying to
20:56
Speaker 1: have a relationship with any of the sister wives. When
20:58
Speaker 1: Mary knew at the time it was mostly Robin, he
21:00
Speaker 1: was only defending Robin. He only cared about Robin's feelings.
21:03
Speaker 1: And so he was only now saying, Christine, you never tried.
21:06
Speaker 1: to have a relationship with any of these women when
21:08
Speaker 1: she does have a great relationship with Janelle. And so
21:11
Speaker 1: in Cody's mind, he really only met Robin. And then
21:14
Speaker 1: Mary knew that and allowed herself to be grouped in
21:17
Speaker 1: against Christine. At the same time, Mary was still married
21:20
Speaker 1: to Cody. So she didn't really know what to do.
21:22
Speaker 1: And so that's like an awkward situation. Mary's also like,
21:26
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, though. Uh, besides being obsessed
21:28
Speaker 1: with green, I'm obsessed with speed dating. Mary likes a ritual.
21:31
Speaker 1: Mary likes safety. It's speed dating. It's green. She goes
21:35
Speaker 1: to speed dating event for dog lovers. She has bootleg
21:38
Speaker 1: jeans on and her dog Zona. She kind of sits
21:40
Speaker 1: at tables and this is like a speed dating where
21:42
Speaker 1: you just like sit around and they do fun things.
21:43
Speaker 1: It's like basically what Christine and, uh, David are doing
21:47
Speaker 1: where they just pick questions out of a jar, which is,
21:50
Speaker 1: I guess, you Lazy. Now talk about simple and lazy.
21:56
Speaker 1: These questions are A, that way, and Mary offers nothing.
22:01
Speaker 1: So they're like, Mary, what is the simple thing that
22:03
Speaker 1: brings you joy? She's like, my dog, Zona. They're like, okay, well, Mary,
22:07
Speaker 1: what's like a thing that happened that was a really
22:09
Speaker 1: intense story for you? She's like, picking up my dog, Zona.
22:12
Speaker 1: When I rescued Zona, when Zona, when Zona. They're like, okay,
22:15
Speaker 1: how boring. Can you imagine, like, think about having to
22:18
Speaker 1: like put yourself out there and then just being an
22:20
Speaker 1: obsessive dog freak. If you're already at a dog dating
22:24
Speaker 1: event and your dog's there, maybe just consider that like
22:27
Speaker 1: the dog has been spoken for and then just talk
22:29
Speaker 1: about anything else. I mean, listen, there's, be honest, cameras
22:34
Speaker 1: recording you right now. Cameras are recording her in this moment.
22:38
Speaker 1: People are talking to her as cameras record them. They
22:40
Speaker 1: had a signed release form. So it's crazy to just
22:42
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I'm just here for Zona. Not any
22:44
Speaker 1: sort of other thing that ever, nothing else in my
22:47
Speaker 1: life happening or has ever happened that I can talk about.
22:49
Speaker 1: So funny. I wish she would talk about the catfish. Well,
22:53
Speaker 1: let me tell you about the story that really happened
22:54
Speaker 1: to me. One time, I was in a really loveless marriage.
22:56
Speaker 1: There were three other women. Let's not talk about it. Anyway,
22:58
Speaker 1: Cody's sister wives, have you heard it? Anyway, so one
23:00
Speaker 1: time I got catfished online. I thought it was a man,
23:02
Speaker 1: and I was going to leave all of this behind
23:04
Speaker 1: and go to him, except that I told my stupid
23:07
Speaker 1: sister wife, Robyn, all about it. And she told my husband.
23:09
Speaker 1: It ended up being a whole catfish situation where it
23:11
Speaker 1: actually was a woman who somehow... also has a relationship with,
23:14
Speaker 1: with Robin. Like really, that'd be a great story to
23:17
Speaker 1: tell in that moment. But she didn't, you know, she
23:20
Speaker 1: just is like going on the boring ass dog shit. So, um,
23:25
Speaker 1: she also is like, guess what? I marry, I live
23:28
Speaker 1: a fabulous life. I own an Airbnb. I have a dog.
23:30
Speaker 1: Have I told you about it? And I am getting
23:32
Speaker 1: DMS from everybody, all the plagues, all the polys, all
23:36
Speaker 1: the singles from men, from women. They can't stay out
23:39
Speaker 1: of my DMS. Some of them are real weird. I
23:42
Speaker 1: answer them all and I give them one areola pick each.
23:45
Speaker 1: I wish she did. She doesn't. She meets Paul. I
23:49
Speaker 1: like Paul. Paul's hot. Paul's real good. Paul's like in
23:52
Speaker 1: a dice game. They're rolling dice and the dice situation
23:57
Speaker 1: is basically they have to roll. I don't quite understand it,
23:59
Speaker 1: but if you roll a four, it all goes to hell.
24:01
Speaker 1: And of course, Mary rolls nothing but fours. Four, four, four, four.
24:05
Speaker 1: I mean, she rolls so many fours that she starts
24:06
Speaker 1: laughing and it's almost funny. I'm happy for her because
24:08
Speaker 1: it's her favorite thing. And then guess what? Paul gets
24:11
Speaker 1: to experience that. And she, because of the dice, can't
24:15
Speaker 1: be talking about Zona. And so she gets to experience
24:19
Speaker 1: life in front of someone. And yeah, Paul's hot. If Paul,
24:22
Speaker 1: if there were actually good looking people at speed dating situations,
24:25
Speaker 1: I'd go more, but I don't think there is. Anyway,
24:27
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm going to start speed dating in different cities.
24:29
Speaker 1: Once I want to move into, I'm going to go
24:31
Speaker 1: speed dating in San Fran. I'm like, San Fran? Is
24:33
Speaker 1: she going to meet like a tech bro? Can you imagine?
24:35
Speaker 1: Then we get our little couplets, okay? It's going to
24:39
Speaker 1: go like this. We get the appetizer, friendly palate cleanser
24:42
Speaker 1: of Christina Jelm meeting up to go shopping at a
24:45
Speaker 1: cute boutique place. Janelle tells Christina about her color analysis.
24:49
Speaker 1: And in a confessional, we realize that she hasn't learned
24:52
Speaker 1: a thing. She literally tells Christine, like, okay, so guess what?
24:55
Speaker 1: I have to wear pastels. I got to wear a
24:56
Speaker 1: lot of flowery shit. Yep, a lot of flowery shit.
24:58
Speaker 1: I can't wear any more jewel tones, which when she
25:00
Speaker 1: said that, we're like, oh, she loved jewel tones. And
25:02
Speaker 1: then we realize she's sitting in a confessional in a
25:06
Speaker 1: very beautiful, deep, dark place. black cherry burgundy that I
25:11
Speaker 1: was like, where'd you get that from? I would look
25:13
Speaker 1: great in that. And she doesn't look good in it.
25:15
Speaker 1: It does wash her out. She's right. That woman's right.
25:17
Speaker 1: And guess what? Where they go to this cute boutique
25:19
Speaker 1: also has a woman that's the manager and a color analysis.
25:22
Speaker 1: And Christine's like, that sounds great. I'd love that. So
25:24
Speaker 1: then Christine sits down and they drape her. They, I mean,
25:28
Speaker 1: they drape, they, they drape her. They drape her. And
25:32
Speaker 1: it's so interesting because even though she's blonde and has
25:34
Speaker 1: fair skin and has blue eyes, she's not, uh, I
25:39
Speaker 1: think that she had not a spring. She is in
25:41
Speaker 1: fact an autumn, which I found interesting because so am I,
25:44
Speaker 1: but then I guess that makes sense. Yeah. I don't know.
25:46
Speaker 1: There's of course, deep autumn, you know, all the things.
25:49
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure exactly what autumn, they didn't go
25:51
Speaker 1: into it, but it looked like she was, you know,
25:53
Speaker 1: really in some jewel tone. So that red top should
25:55
Speaker 1: be on me and Christine, only Christine's, uh, only Christine's
25:59
Speaker 1: in the fall, autumn Christine's. Christine's like, guess what I'm doing?
26:04
Speaker 1: I'm going to go meet up with Mary. And Janelle
26:06
Speaker 1: looks genuinely shocked, which then I was happy about. And
26:09
Speaker 1: I was like, how did Janelle not know that was happening?
26:10
Speaker 1: Like the producers really kept that from her? Did Janelle
26:12
Speaker 1: not know part of the plot points of the season
26:15
Speaker 1: was that Christine was going to meet with Mary? But
26:18
Speaker 1: Janelle's like, that's crazy. She's like, you are. And it
26:23
Speaker 1: really was like, yeah, shocked. Christine says her relationship with
26:27
Speaker 1: Mary has never been great, that it was bad in Lehigh.
26:29
Speaker 1: And then they show us a clip of her being like,
26:31
Speaker 1: you know what, when you get... close to me and
26:33
Speaker 1: when you come in the room there's just a lot
26:34
Speaker 1: of package and you really see the fact that she
26:36
Speaker 1: hated that girl because they couldn't say anything at that
26:38
Speaker 1: time they were like tiptoeing around saying anything the fact
26:40
Speaker 1: that they got that yep So Janelle says, to her knowledge,
26:46
Speaker 1: they never got along, which I loved. It was like,
26:48
Speaker 1: to your knowledge, Janelle, only like besides Cody, the only
26:51
Speaker 1: other person that truly would know. Yeah, I'm sure you guys. Yeah,
26:54
Speaker 1: they didn't then. OK. Mary says, though, there are a
26:57
Speaker 1: lot of good times. And at one point they were
26:59
Speaker 1: actually considered people that look just like sisters. If not,
27:02
Speaker 1: people thought they were sisters because of how much they were.
27:05
Speaker 1: friendly and warm. I would love Christine to hear that
27:08
Speaker 1: and be like, what'd you think? And is that true? Um, then,
27:12
Speaker 1: then honey, let me just tell you it's guess what?
27:14
Speaker 1: It's high tea. It's two Queens meeting for a high
27:17
Speaker 1: 4 PM tea. And it actually is 4 PM. I
27:20
Speaker 1: realized I looked at Mary's Apple watch and they really
27:22
Speaker 1: did meet at four. Isn't that so funny? It's like
27:23
Speaker 1: some cute bakery. They sit down, Mary first, then Christine.
27:26
Speaker 1: And it's Christine's like, sits down. She's like, it's real hot.
27:28
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, it's going to be even hotter, honey. Um,
27:33
Speaker 1: and it's So going into this meeting, Mary says this.
27:38
Speaker 1: She doesn't know if with Christine, what she's going to get,
27:42
Speaker 1: if Christine's going to be real or not. At least,
27:45
Speaker 1: you know, with Mary, what you're going to get. Christine says,
27:51
Speaker 1: you know, if you decide to burn a bridge publicly
27:55
Speaker 1: and then you find yourself in the same space with
27:57
Speaker 1: the person that you decided to burn that bridge, it
28:01
Speaker 1: can be awkward. And I will tell you that as
28:03
Speaker 1: someone who personally lived it. she does it like this,
28:06
Speaker 1: which is true. And so she knows she has to
28:10
Speaker 1: do this thing. She knows that she backed herself into
28:13
Speaker 1: a corner saying the things she did. And yet in
28:16
Speaker 1: order to move forward, she has to do this. And
28:19
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to talk about certain things, but I
28:24
Speaker 1: think there are ways of keeping your side of the
28:30
Speaker 1: street clean, of communicating and expressing yourself in In a way,
28:36
Speaker 1: now I'm going to tell you that there is a way,
28:38
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, I believe there is a way. I
28:41
Speaker 1: haven't found it. But there is a way to express
28:44
Speaker 1: yourself and leave a conversation feeling like you took care
28:48
Speaker 1: of your needs as well as respecting someone else. It's
28:56
Speaker 1: just that in this moment... when you hear something, it
29:02
Speaker 1: is incredibly difficult to wade through the reactions and pick
29:08
Speaker 1: and choose words without offensive tones that someone could misdrew, miscrew,
29:15
Speaker 1: what's the word? Mistake for you being a bitch or whatnot. Or,
29:23
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that, yeah, it, That's, I guess,
29:31
Speaker 1: in the very basic way where people, I guess, are
29:34
Speaker 1: taught to start with I statements. Like, I feel like.
29:40
Speaker 1: I'm not being listened to when you tell me I'm dumb.
29:45
Speaker 1: You know, whatever it is. Trying to reframe how things
29:53
Speaker 1: made you feel as opposed to what people did or
29:56
Speaker 1: who they are. or how you're better and or how
30:00
Speaker 1: you're different. Just, you know, um, Christine says that Mary
30:04
Speaker 1: can ask her questions, but she might not answer them.
30:07
Speaker 1: And she's ready to flee at any time. We know
30:09
Speaker 1: that girl. Once honey, once Christine knew that she could leave,
30:13
Speaker 1: she'll leave. It's like a power. And now she knows
30:16
Speaker 1: you can do it. She'll leave anytime. It's like when
30:18
Speaker 1: a witch learns that they can do witch stuff. I
30:20
Speaker 1: get that. You know, the truth of the matter is
30:23
Speaker 1: it's like finding out you can say no. It is
30:26
Speaker 1: very difficult to say no, but if you can somehow
30:29
Speaker 1: do it and then find the confidence to do it
30:32
Speaker 1: again and have good reactions from those two times and
30:35
Speaker 1: then get into a habit, like I can see a
30:38
Speaker 1: world in which now you're just known as the queen
30:40
Speaker 1: of now. Not that Christine leaves every situation, but listen,
30:47
Speaker 1: it's a newfound scale. Mary's reaction at first to hearing
30:53
Speaker 1: Christine didn't want a relationship with anyone but Janelle. Mary
30:58
Speaker 1: says that she was a little butthurt for a second.
31:01
Speaker 1: It was like, fine, you know, you don't ever want
31:03
Speaker 1: to have anything to do with me? Fine. But also,
31:08
Speaker 1: she's at least saying that. You know, Cody wasn't saying
31:13
Speaker 1: anything about it. He was just not acting on anything.
31:17
Speaker 1: At least Christine said the words, which I appreciated. It's
31:23
Speaker 1: funny because Mary and Christine have been like somewhat tiptoeing
31:27
Speaker 1: around each other's healings. Like Mary understands that healing and
31:32
Speaker 1: having a voice and having a power and being able
31:35
Speaker 1: to like understand that you deserve to feel good and
31:40
Speaker 1: comfortable and situations and safe. And you can vocalize when
31:44
Speaker 1: that's not happening or what makes you feel uncomfortable is
31:47
Speaker 1: something she has to accept. Christine does that. Because she
31:52
Speaker 1: does it. And she's trying to learn how to do
31:55
Speaker 1: it too. It's like Christine and Mary have weird mirrors
31:58
Speaker 1: of each other, I think. So then Christine says that
32:06
Speaker 1: she said that about Mary A. And it's true. It's because,
32:10
Speaker 1: like I said, she had a good relationship with Janelle.
32:14
Speaker 1: She needed to leave Cody. We never had a good
32:19
Speaker 1: relationship with anyone. And Mary was still married to Cody
32:23
Speaker 1: and was trying, I guess, to remain loyal or remain
32:29
Speaker 1: the good wife in the eyes of who knows what.
32:32
Speaker 1: Jesus and all the Latter-day Saints, honey, all those late saints,
32:35
Speaker 1: the Latter-day ones, all the early saints, they've been rolling
32:40
Speaker 1: their eyes. But anyway, she understands that Christine was like,
32:44
Speaker 1: I needed to say that. Just like I know that
32:49
Speaker 1: you couldn't defend me because you were with Cody. I
32:51
Speaker 1: get that. I understand what kind of person Cody is
32:55
Speaker 1: and I understand what kind of person you are. I
32:58
Speaker 1: needed to say that I had to get the fuck
33:01
Speaker 1: out and I never wanted to see you guys again
33:03
Speaker 1: in order for me to leave and like spread my wings.
33:10
Speaker 1: I haven't had children, but there is like the age
33:14
Speaker 1: of rebellion. There's multiple ages of rebellion, I guess, upon
33:18
Speaker 1: a child's psychology, which I guess is just human psychology.
33:22
Speaker 1: But there's the ones that happen when little kids, like
33:26
Speaker 1: two or three, can understand the word no. Literally, like
33:28
Speaker 1: I said, learning how to say no. I mean, I
33:31
Speaker 1: know I said it in relationships like people pleasers or
33:34
Speaker 1: people who can't say no, but kids, when they first
33:36
Speaker 1: realize they can say no to a parent, it's kind
33:38
Speaker 1: of a big deal because it's like autonomy, right? And
33:41
Speaker 1: then some kids will just be like, you know, contrarian
33:44
Speaker 1: for the sake of it. And then some, you know,
33:46
Speaker 1: and then into teenager next, then we get into like
33:48
Speaker 1: rebellious phases of teenager-ness where they'll just seemingly do whatever
33:52
Speaker 1: the fuck you don't want them to do as loud
33:55
Speaker 1: as possible, you know? So I think that Christine having
33:59
Speaker 1: to be like, burn it all down as loud as
34:02
Speaker 1: possible was just to muster like the momentum, harness, I guess,
34:10
Speaker 1: like whatever energy to launch her out of there. And
34:14
Speaker 1: Mary immediately understood it. Christine said, she needed to create
34:24
Speaker 1: a firm, strong boundary and to like find myself and
34:27
Speaker 1: to be like, who really am I? Am I just
34:30
Speaker 1: going to please, please, please? Because I feel like that's
34:32
Speaker 1: all I ever do is please, please, please. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
34:35
Speaker 1: That sounds good. That sounds good. That sounds good. And
34:37
Speaker 1: then Mary, I think, Literally, here's a part of herself
34:41
Speaker 1: in that. And I'm sure Janelle too. Yeah, it's actually
34:44
Speaker 1: really sad that we all felt in different times in
34:46
Speaker 1: our lives that we really didn't manner. And Christine says
34:50
Speaker 1: that they weren't great at communication. We weren't great at
34:53
Speaker 1: validating each other's feelings. It was more about the dominant
34:56
Speaker 1: person got the voice. And obviously, Mary has said that
35:01
Speaker 1: she was the dominant voice. Christine gets to ask the
35:07
Speaker 1: question because at first we think that Mary's going to
35:09
Speaker 1: be the one asking the questions like, why don't you
35:11
Speaker 1: like me? And why, what's so bad with me? And what's,
35:13
Speaker 1: why does the boy hate me? Or why, why don't
35:17
Speaker 1: people love my jokes? You know, who knows? But Christine's like, when,
35:24
Speaker 1: and what were the first steps when you started to
35:27
Speaker 1: know that you had to get out, which is really interesting, right? Because,
35:31
Speaker 1: and it goes to show how little they could communicate
35:34
Speaker 1: and talk to each other on any sort of like
35:36
Speaker 1: real level, like the amount of fear, like if Christine
35:38
Speaker 1: never had gone to Mary and be like, he likes
35:42
Speaker 1: Robin more than he's ever liked anyone here. Why are
35:48
Speaker 1: we here? We have to leave. Like the relationship was
35:54
Speaker 1: that that could never happen. Women that had lived together
35:57
Speaker 1: for this long. It's so interesting. Mary actually answers in,
36:00
Speaker 1: I think, interesting way. She says, well, for Christine, she said,
36:07
Speaker 1: you know, Vegas was when she wanted to leave and
36:09
Speaker 1: Mary is surprised. And then she said that she still
36:11
Speaker 1: had hope. Mary says that after a while though, the
36:13
Speaker 1: hope she started to dissipate when she realized Cody would
36:17
Speaker 1: just say like, cheers, new beginnings. And then just ignore
36:20
Speaker 1: her for a whole ass year. She was just waiting.
36:24
Speaker 1: But then she started to be like, I have to confess.
36:27
Speaker 1: It was also an amount of stubbornness. I started to
36:30
Speaker 1: realize this man was never going to break up with
36:32
Speaker 1: me because he wanted so badly to be considered good
36:36
Speaker 1: or to be like, I tried. Oh God, I tried.
36:40
Speaker 1: What a godly man trying with all my wives. We
36:43
Speaker 1: all know he wasn't. And I just, I think was
36:46
Speaker 1: holding on to be like, who's the first to go.
36:49
Speaker 1: But the shitty thing about that is that you were
36:54
Speaker 1: being stubborn about a situation in which you had in
37:00
Speaker 1: my eyes, the shit end of stick, the smallest end
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Speaker 1: of the stick, because Cody gets to have a loving
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Speaker 1: relationship and you get to be like some spinster aunt
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Speaker 1: that doesn't, that they don't want around. Like that's what
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Speaker 1: you're stubbornly not leaving. And I think that you came
37:22
Speaker 1: to realize that. And I wonder, but I also wonder,
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Speaker 1: I guess, well, when did you stop believing all the,
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Speaker 1: and all the angels shit? Angel shit at the end,
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Speaker 1: celestial kingdom with as many people as possible forever, those
37:34
Speaker 1: people kind of stuff. Because Christine seemingly, when she left
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Speaker 1: the family, it felt like she had given up that
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Speaker 1: religion a long time ago. But Mary is like, yeah,
37:50
Speaker 1: so I was really stubborn. I just really wanted to
37:52
Speaker 1: be the thorn in his side. Some would say the
37:56
Speaker 1: knife in his kidney. And she makes that joke. Christine
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Speaker 1: cheers her. And the women come together and Mary gets
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Speaker 1: what she wants, which is just to be acknowledged for
38:06
Speaker 1: a funny pun. Then Christine says that Mary was horribly mistreated.
38:15
Speaker 1: And Mary says, thank you. Christine in a confessional says
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Speaker 1: that Cody and Mary never treated each other well, but
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Speaker 1: they were equally yoked. But then after he legally divorced
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Speaker 1: Mary to marry Robin, like there was a hardcore separation
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Speaker 1: and it was a palpable thing and they never got
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Speaker 1: back together. But then my babes, then they finally are like,
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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you one thing, that Cody, he's a
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Speaker 1: liar because you know, it's like real weird how things
38:45
Speaker 1: went down. Mary's like, yeah, it's weird how It's weird
38:49
Speaker 1: how the story of when Cody and Robin met changed.
38:53
Speaker 1: Because I was always told that they met during a
38:56
Speaker 1: drive-by we did to the neighbors, but then they openly
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Speaker 1: talked about how they had this I fuck moment in
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Speaker 1: the church. That Robin was in church, I mean, looking
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Speaker 1: Cody up and down. Doing this, like, If you're on YouTube,
39:19
Speaker 1: you saw it. One of those like lower lip bites.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that, or maybe just like a little smirk. Like
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Speaker 1: she was like. you know, I'm not quite sure, but
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Speaker 1: Cody was like, I saw that look and I was like, God,
39:37
Speaker 1: I can't even, can't even look at her. Is she
39:40
Speaker 1: a married woman? The look is too much. Like Cody,
39:44
Speaker 1: we forget how Cody, really fancies himself as like a
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Speaker 1: beacon of chivalry and morality. This moment happened, I guess,
39:58
Speaker 1: before the drive-by and Mary knew nothing about it. But
40:02
Speaker 1: the streets have also been very skeptical about how Cody
40:06
Speaker 1: and Robin maneuvered a lot during those early weeks, years
40:11
Speaker 1: in the first season. And just like people are being
40:14
Speaker 1: honest now with their true feelings, not having Cody and Robin,
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they start to air out some of
40:20
Speaker 1: the lies. I can't wait. Okay. Yeah. So liar, liar,
40:32
Speaker 1: pants on fire. We're going to find out all the goods.
40:34
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40:36
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Speaker 1: you so much for being here. Hand to heart. I'll
41:24
Speaker 1: let you guys go, but two breaths because we're together.
41:28
Speaker 1: All of us to be considered Latter-day Saints. We are
41:32
Speaker 1: making miracles every day with our own lives. Maybe not
41:37
Speaker 1: recognized by a church, but I recognize you and breath
41:41
Speaker 1: can recognize us. So All right, two long, good, deep
41:47
Speaker 1: breaths as you feel your body presently in time and
41:51
Speaker 1: you can sense something, the sound of my voice, the
41:55
Speaker 1: feeling of your sit bones, whatever it is, because you
41:57
Speaker 1: are alive right now. So you have to remember what
42:03
Speaker 1: it feels like because you're alive in your body. You
42:07
Speaker 1: are not just a weird thinking machine, right? And I'm,
42:11
Speaker 1: of course, speaking for myself too. Okay, out in, out in, out.
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Speaker 1: Let's go. All right, my babes. Take care of yourselves
42:34
Speaker 1: and one another. Stand up for what you believe and
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Speaker 1: make art. I'll talk to you. Bye.