Latest / The One Oʻahu Podcast with Mayor Rick Blangiardi / 2024 City Employee of the Year Rebecca Choquette, a zookeeper at the Honolulu Zoo
Transcript
- 0:15Welcome to the One O'ahu Podcast.
- 0:17I'm your host, Brandi Higa, and this week we're sitting down with Rebecca Choquette.
- 0:22Becky or Rebecca? What are you go by?
- 0:24I go by whatever people want to call me.
- 0:26But Becky, to my friends, usually.
- 0:28Okay, I'm going to call you Becky.
- 0:30Of course.
- 0:31So, Mike, you tell us, what is your title?
- 0:34My title is Zoo Animal Keeper two.
- 0:37And what that means is I am a working supervisor
- 0:40within the Reptile and Keiki Zoo sections of the zoo.
- 0:45That's awesome.
- 0:46And you know the reason why we're sitting there.
- 0:47And one of the reasons,
- 0:49is because you were recently selected as the city's employee of the year.
- 0:52What was going. We were at that ceremony.
- 0:54What was going through your head when you heard your name called?
- 0:59Honestly, I was thinking how cool it was
- 1:02to be up there with all of those wonderful, accomplished people.
- 1:05And I didn't think for a minute that my name was going to be called.
- 1:09So when I heard it, there was that moment of shock and disbelief.
- 1:14And did I really just hear what they said?
- 1:18But yes, it was real.
- 1:21What are the with you?
- 1:22Many, many complex emotions.
- 1:25And a lot to unpack.
- 1:28It meant,
- 1:31a huge amount.
- 1:32I am so very honored to be the employee of the year,
- 1:36but also a little bit of,
- 1:40I'm not worthy.
- 1:41I'm not worthy.
- 1:42Sort of feelings.
- 1:44Yeah, I know that.
- 1:46Mayor, had a moment with you. One on one.
- 1:48After it was done, he was on stage with you.
- 1:51He said a few words to you. Do you remember what he said?
- 1:54This is like my wedding.
- 1:55I don't remember what I pledged to do at my wedding.
- 2:00Yeah, I just remember it was very light,
- 2:03and we were just chatting, but I don't remember exactly what it was.
- 2:06And, Becky, how long have you been with the Honolulu Zoo?
- 2:0931 years now.
- 2:11Where were you before?
- 2:13In college, actually.
- 2:15Oh, so you came to the zoo straight out of college?
- 2:16Yes. Yeah.
- 2:18And tell us a little bit about yourself.
- 2:20Where did you grow up?
- 2:21Where did you go to school?
- 2:23So I grew up Kona side of the Big Island and went to high school at Konawaena High.
- 2:28And then I moved to Oahu
- 2:30to go to U-H and studied zoology,
- 2:34which is no longer a major that you can study at UWA now.
- 2:39It kind of got shifted into Biology and College of Tropical Agriculture.
- 2:44But yes, I got my degree in zoology and
- 2:49it was kismet or serendipity.
- 2:52Right out of school I saw the ad for Zoo Animal Keeper one and I qualified.
- 2:56So I applied and I got the job.
- 2:59It was amazing.
- 3:00It was an opportunity I never thought I would be able to to be offered.
- 3:05I had always wanted to work with reptiles and amphibians,
- 3:09and this was a chance to do it.
- 3:11And to stay here in Hawaii, too, because, as you probably know,
- 3:16there aren't a lot of places
- 3:17where you can actually work with reptiles and amphibians here in Hawaii.
- 3:21So obviously, you kind of knew what you wanted to do early on in life.
- 3:25Were you that little kid like playing with frogs and like, was that you?
- 3:30Yes, that was me.
- 3:32My mother was terrified of snakes.
- 3:36She was
- 3:37raised in Connecticut, on the mainland,
- 3:40and she was sure that she did not want to pass that fear down to her children.
- 3:45So she always encouraged my sister and I to play with
- 3:49reptiles and amphibians and insects and all the creepy crawly things
- 3:53that most people would, would consider frightening or even intimidating.
- 3:58And so when she was teaching you this early on, you weren't afraid at any point.
- 4:02You were just animal lover.
- 4:04You always loved them.
- 4:06I have always loved them all sorts of animals.
- 4:08But I will tell you a secret.
- 4:11For a while I was a little bit nervous about handling photos.
- 4:17The ones you see that is.
- 4:18Oh, if you're from Manoa or Waimanalo
- 4:22or anywhere where it's rainy, you'll see those big brown lumpy
- 4:26toads hopping about on the roads at night, especially when it's raining.
- 4:30I was a little bit nervous about those guys.
- 4:33But working here at the zoo, I quickly got over that nervousness
- 4:36and learned to love them as much as all the other animals.
- 4:40Well, you said working here at the zoo.
- 4:42So, Becky, for you, what does your day to day look like?
- 4:45My day to day right now.
- 4:47So I spent 26 years of my career as an animal keeper one.
- 4:53I was my day as an animal keeper.
- 4:56One involved taking care of the animals.
- 4:59I would come in and I would get my keys.
- 5:00I would do my rounds. I would check on them all.
- 5:03I would make sure that they had had a good night, that nothing went wrong,
- 5:07that no one was sick and no one was injured.
- 5:09I would go around and I would give them all their food
- 5:12and their fresh water and clean up after them
- 5:15and do any maintenance that was necessary in their exhibits.
- 5:20About five years ago, I moved up to the working
- 5:23supervisor position, which still includes all of that.
- 5:26But, honestly, there's a little bit more paperwork involved now.
- 5:30Tell us about you mentioned the reptiles and the animals that you take care of.
- 5:34Can you tell us about them or maybe even some of the natives you work with?
- 5:36And are there characteristics are there fun facts, mannerisms,
- 5:39maybe that, you know, the normal person doesn't know?
- 5:42Oh, absolutely.
- 5:44People think reptiles don't have personality.
- 5:47They absolutely have personality.
- 5:49They all have different personalities.
- 5:51One of the ones I will tell you about a little bit is our Burmese python, George.
- 5:57So a lot of the animals that we have here at the,
- 6:00in the reptile area, at the Honolulu's, we call it the ectoderm exhibit.
- 6:05We're amnesty animals, which means
- 6:08that somebody brought them here illegally to Hawaii.
- 6:11The State of Hawai'i doesn't want these animals
- 6:13loose in the environment because they could harm our native species.
- 6:17So if people bring them here illegally, they can turn them in.
- 6:22No questions asked and no penalties.
- 6:25And so some of those animals find their way here to the Honolulu Zoo
- 6:28and spend the rest of their lives here.
- 6:30George, the Burmese python is one of those animals.
- 6:34He is a gorgeous 10.5ft long.
- 6:38I know Burmese python,
- 6:41and most people see him lying in his exhibit.
- 6:44And like most snakes, he sleeps a lot.
- 6:46They like to conserve energy.
- 6:49But when he hands, the most active is when we give him piles of leaves.
- 6:55He loves to explore and investigate piles of leaves.
- 6:59So if you come and you see a pile of leaves by the window,
- 7:03you are likely to see George, the Burmese python poking around in a tongue,
- 7:08flicking it to pick up all the sense that are in those leaves.
- 7:12Or when he's finished with that, he'll curl up
- 7:14and he'll sleep on top of his leaf pile.
- 7:16It's very cute.
- 7:18Yeah, I see, I didn't even know that that snake's name was George.
- 7:22Are there any other animals that you know?
- 7:24You have these incredible stories that you want folks to know about?
- 7:27So another thing that I'd really like people to know about
- 7:30is the work we're doing with native Hawaiian invertebrates.
- 7:34We are working with Kamehameha butterflies,
- 7:37and right now this is one of the only places where you can see Kamehameha
- 7:41butterflies on display.
- 7:44They are in the ectoderm complex, and they have their own
- 7:47exhibit, and people can come down and take a look at them.
- 7:50They look a little bit like monarch.
- 7:52Yeah, but they're also a little different.
- 7:55And it would be very rare for you to get a chance to see them in the wild.
- 7:59So this is a chance for people to see something really cool.
- 8:03They are the state butterfly,
- 8:06and we breed them both to provide
- 8:09butterflies for the exhibit and also for some of the work dlnR does.
- 8:13We have had butterflies released at various places on Oahu.
- 8:18And we also work
- 8:20with native Hawaiian snails.
- 8:24Now, most people do not think snails and go, whoa!
- 8:28I mean, if you're putting a fennec fox in front of me or a snail, I mean, that's.
- 8:33Yeah, I get it.
- 8:34And the ones that we have right now are not the beautifully colored snails.
- 8:41To be honest, the ones we're working with right now are small and brown,
- 8:45but they are probably the most endangered animals here at the Honolulu Zoo.
- 8:49They were considered extinct in the wild, several years ago.
- 8:54And dlnR has started a reintroduction program.
- 8:57So the snails that we breed at the zoo go to dlnR
- 9:00and are reintroduced back into the wild, which is really cool.
- 9:04Why are they important?
- 9:06This particular species of snail is important because it,
- 9:12it lives in the leaf litter.
- 9:14It lives on the ground.
- 9:15And all those little creepy crawly things that you see living in
- 9:18the leaf litter are important decomposers.
- 9:21So when leaves die on a tree and they fall to the ground,
- 9:26these little creepy crawlies will eat them.
- 9:29Digest the nutrients, poop out the nutrients,
- 9:32and that becomes part of the soil.
- 9:34So all the little things
- 9:35on the forest floor are both creating and enriching the soil.
- 9:39So that the trees can grow.
- 9:41It's a wonderful cycle.
- 9:42Becky mentioned some three decades and in this work, if not for this,
- 9:46what do you think you'd be doing?
- 9:50That is a really good, good question.
- 9:52I never pictured myself doing anything other than working with animals.
- 9:59If I wasn't here at the zoo,
- 10:02I might be working with fish at the aquarium,
- 10:06working in rescue with native birds.
- 10:11Or maybe I'd just be on my own ranch, riding horses
- 10:14and raising cattle and goats and things like that.
- 10:18Well, now that you are here, you mentioned that, you know,
- 10:20you loved it from the start, but what do you love most about this job?
- 10:25The ability to work with incredible creatures
- 10:28that most people don't even have a chance to see in person.
- 10:33Let alone interact with.
- 10:36One of my bucket list animals that we got by
- 10:40chance turned out to be a coconut crab.
- 10:44She was found in early December in 2014,
- 10:49in Salt Lake, stopping traffic on the road.
- 10:54People scooped her into a cooler.
- 10:56She was turned over to the Hawaii State Department of Agriculture.
- 11:00And when we saw that, we asked if we could have that animal
- 11:04as part of our collection.
- 11:06And they kindly said yes.
- 11:07We cooperate often with the Department of Agriculture.
- 11:11So she lived here with us for ten years, and our keiki zoo,
- 11:16she was 5 pounds of giant, amazing crab.
- 11:23It was not an animal that I ever thought I'd get to work with.
- 11:26It was not an animal that I ever expected to become attached to,
- 11:31but she was really an amazing and unique animal.
- 11:35Yeah, for someone that isn't familiar with this crab
- 11:38or animals that look like that in general, you know, usually when you say,
- 11:41oh, what's the one animal you want?
- 11:42You here, I know this two here is that red panda.
- 11:45Kids love sloths, the softer animals.
- 11:48But what was it that attracted you to this hard shell
- 11:53kind of ugly looking crab?
- 11:56She had personality. Okay.
- 11:59She had her own individual personality.
- 12:02And she also had two things called s.
- 12:04The tasks, which are sensory organs that are unique to crabs.
- 12:11They act as, sort of like a snake's tongue.
- 12:14They take chemicals out of the air.
- 12:17And when she was interested in something, these two little things,
- 12:20they looked like weird bent antenna would come out
- 12:24and they would start bouncing and and quivering.
- 12:28And they do this little dance.
- 12:29And it was just really fun to watch.
- 12:33So would you say that's your favorite animal or do you have a favorite animal?
- 12:36I don't have a favorite animal.
- 12:38My favorite animal is whatever animal is in front of me at the moment.
- 12:43Okay.
- 12:45And if, let's say
- 12:47George, if George could understand English for an hour,
- 12:51truly understand what you're telling him, what would you say and why?
- 12:57I would
- 12:57want to know about his life before he came to the zoo.
- 13:01We would talk story about that.
- 13:04So when somebody turns in an animal
- 13:06and it's an end to see turn in, we don't get any history on that animal.
- 13:10So one of the things the public often asks is, how old is this animal?
- 13:16And for the amnesty animals, we really don't know.
- 13:19We can make an educated guess, but we don't know for sure
- 13:23because we don't know where they came from or what their life was like before
- 13:27they came to us. That's what we would chat about.
- 13:29But to speak to your soft and fluffy animal question.
- 13:35I also supervised the Keiki Zoo, and one of my favorite,
- 13:40and some of my favorite animals in the Keiki Zoo are the goats
- 13:44and the goats are the unsung heroes at the Honolulu Zoo.
- 13:49It is the one exhibit where people can actually go in
- 13:52with the animals and have a chance to pet them and love them,
- 13:57and talk to them and tell them their secrets.
- 14:00And we do have that happen.
- 14:01Small children have their favorite goats,
- 14:04and they'll come in and they'll have whole conversations
- 14:06with their favorite goats telling them about what they did that week,
- 14:10or maybe even something that happened in school, either happy or sad.
- 14:16And sometimes
- 14:17if I'm having a rough day, I'll go in and I'll sit with the goats, too, and go.
- 14:21Therapy with them. Yeah.
- 14:22Yeah, it's a real thing.
- 14:24I know for me, you know, I kind of.
- 14:27I get prideful.
- 14:28I'm not sure what the feeling is when, dogs like me.
- 14:31So, like, if you go, you know, some someone else's dog comes up to you.
- 14:33It's kind of like,
- 14:34all right, you know, I'm a good person, and this dog likes me, and I'm.
- 14:38I kind of assume that, like, reptiles are the same way.
- 14:40They trust you.
- 14:41They let you hold them.
- 14:42They let you do whatever. Yes, absolutely.
- 14:45And that must make you feel like on top of the world like this.
- 14:49Yeah. Was there a problem with it. Didn't like you.
- 14:53I have had love hate relationships
- 14:56with several animals within the zoo over the years.
- 15:01We had way back when a miniature donkey
- 15:04she was, she was a difficult animal.
- 15:07I don't know that she really liked anybody.
- 15:10She had a tendency to bite.
- 15:14Sometimes it's the difficult ones and the spunky ones that you love the most.
- 15:19And then when you win them over, that must be like the ultimate feeling.
- 15:22Yes. Yeah.
- 15:23We've had a number of baby monitor lizards, so
- 15:27mammals are born needing their mother.
- 15:31They want to bond with another individual because it's important
- 15:34for their survival.
- 15:36Reptiles come out of the egg knowing that the entire world is against them,
- 15:40and they have to fight the entire world in order to survive.
- 15:44So whenever we have baby monitor lizards hatch,
- 15:49they come out wanting to take on the world.
- 15:53They tend to be very bitey.
- 15:54They can be very flighty and difficult to handle,
- 15:57but it really is something special when they start to get older and
- 16:01they start to trust you, and they realize that you're not going to hurt them
- 16:05and eventually get to the point where they'll hang out on your hand.
- 16:10And knowing that the reptiles act like that.
- 16:14What's the camaraderie like?
- 16:15You know, I've talked to Okie, who's who's often with the tortoises.
- 16:19I've talked to Carly, who's like, amazing with the butterflies.
- 16:22Now that you guys have all, you know, done this for a very long time together.
- 16:26Can you talk about that? The team here.
- 16:29We have a marvelous team.
- 16:31I am so happy and proud
- 16:34to be part of this team.
- 16:37We have a number of people who have been with the reptile.
- 16:39And Kiki's a section for many, many years.
- 16:42Like myself, like Carly, like Okie.
- 16:45And we have a number of bright, fresh faces who have come on recently
- 16:49after Covid.
- 16:51And, everybody is
- 16:54just doing a fantastic job.
- 16:56I could not be happier.
- 16:58Becky, you you mentioned the mannerisms of these reptiles.
- 17:02So have you gotten bit have you had any close calls?
- 17:09Many, many, many years ago.
- 17:11Many, many, many years ago.
- 17:13We had baby Komodo dragons, and I
- 17:16did get nipped by a baby Komodo dragon.
- 17:20There is a lot of talk nowadays about whether or not
- 17:23they're venomous, whether there's bacteria in their mouth.
- 17:27But for the most part, with babies,
- 17:30their mouths are tiny, their teeth are tiny,
- 17:32and they're not going to do too much damage.
- 17:35You just get a little nick.
- 17:37Kind of like being bitten by an unknown,
- 17:41if you know what that. I know what that is.
- 17:42What is that?
- 17:43Those are those, very feisty brown
- 17:46lizards that everybody has in their garden nowadays.
- 17:49Okay. They'll come right up to you.
- 17:50They've got to do lap, which is like a colored thing under their throat.
- 17:55They'll do push ups at you.
- 17:56They're they're very feisty.
- 17:57They'll bite if you grab them or get too close.
- 18:00Are there any other, you know, any stories you can think of?
- 18:03Like you said, you have many, many. We'd love to hear.
- 18:04Maybe 1 or 2 more. I'll go with
- 18:08our female Komodo
- 18:09dragon and doc, our male Komodo dragon.
- 18:13So we got this pair of Komodo dragons from the National Zoo.
- 18:16They arrived in 1992, and they were the parents of the six babies
- 18:21that we had here.
- 18:24As an animal keepers, starting off in 1994.
- 18:29I grew up with these animals.
- 18:31T.W., sadly, has since passed.
- 18:34But doc, the male Komodo dragon, is still with us.
- 18:39He is 32 years old.
- 18:40He is, to our knowledge, the oldest Komodo in captivity
- 18:44right now in North America.
- 18:47He is showing his age a little bit.
- 18:49He's got a little bit of arthritis, but we manage that.
- 18:52We work with the vets.
- 18:54And one thing that we have started to do with him, and this is really fun
- 18:58and really unique, and I love it when I get a chance to take part
- 19:02is do laser therapy for his arthritic joints.
- 19:08That's better than some humans.
- 19:09Yeah. Yeah.
- 19:11So we go in there.
- 19:13We have a net for safety, just in case.
- 19:16And, the vet and I will sit with him,
- 19:20and she will apply the laser, and,
- 19:23hopefully, it does seem to be helping with his arthritic joints.
- 19:27Yeah.
- 19:27When you see him out of pain like that, I know that there's a lot of hard days.
- 19:30You said you clean.
- 19:31You know, you have to clean exhibits.
- 19:33You have to do a lot of really tough, sometimes dirty work.
- 19:37But are there any good stories
- 19:39that you kind of fall back on on tough days like that?
- 19:42On tough days like that?
- 19:44I don't fall into the past.
- 19:46I look to the future.
- 19:48And if it's a really bad day, I pick out an animal
- 19:52that I want to just hang out with and I go and say hi.
- 19:56I make time and my schedule to just go and spend ten,
- 20:0115 minutes hanging out with that animal and unwinding a bit.
- 20:05Sometimes it's the goats.
- 20:07Sometimes it's George the snake.
- 20:09Sometimes it's the Komodo dragons.
- 20:12Sometimes it's Lonnie Moo, or the donkeys, or the cattle in Keiki Zoo.
- 20:18Or the giant tortoises.
- 20:21But yeah, that is that's what I do when I'm having a hard day.
- 20:25That brings everything full circle and helps me to remember why I'm here.
- 20:29It's all about the animals in the end.
- 20:31But what would you say is kind of the coolest thing you've seen here?
- 20:34You know?
- 20:34Is there like, I know reptiles don't always need.
- 20:37Do they always need a partner? Like, do we have.
- 20:38We had any that have, you know, like been able to miraculously,
- 20:41I guess not miraculous that nature does this sometimes, but like,
- 20:44you know, lay eggs on their own when we weren't expecting it
- 20:47or survive something that maybe we weren't expecting it or anything like that.
- 20:50Oh my goodness.
- 20:52I actually have video of a cat, a tortoise.
- 20:56She had laid eggs in the past.
- 20:57She had not laid eggs for 20 years,
- 21:01and all of a sudden she decided to start laying eggs again.
- 21:04Now she hasn't been with a male.
- 21:06So those eggs aren't fertile.
- 21:08But I was actually under the hunt
- 21:12monitoring her when she began to lay eggs.
- 21:16So I was right there, nose to tail with her as she was
- 21:20popping these eggs out.
- 21:21And I have some fantastic video.
- 21:24But seeing something like that is is really, truly amazing.
- 21:30Very few people get a chance to do that.
- 21:31Oh I. Bet.
- 21:33After all these years, some three decades, plus working with animals,
- 21:36what has that taught you about human nature?
- 21:39It's taught me that we are
- 21:40an amazingly adaptable species.
- 21:45We have adapted to so many environments and so many different things,
- 21:50and to leave the animals for a bit.
- 21:54I went through Covid working here at the zoo.
- 21:59There were adjustments and adaptations
- 22:02required every single day.
- 22:05Yeah.
- 22:06But we are strong and we are resilient.
- 22:10And as a species, we can come through anything.
- 22:14And as city and county employees, we are some of the toughest around.
- 22:19Well, so Vicki, you know, and then kind of,
- 22:21you know, flipping it around, you always look at the animals.
- 22:23But have you looked at the other animals,
- 22:25the kids that come to visit the zoo and kind of see their faces light up?
- 22:28And what is that experience like? Oh, yes.
- 22:31Especially in the Keiki zoo.
- 22:33But even with the reptiles, I still do a lot of encounters,
- 22:37both with the animals.
- 22:38Or I help the keepers who are doing the encounters.
- 22:42And we do
- 22:43encounters both for the general public and sometimes for special zoo events.
- 22:48Both are a lot of fun.
- 22:50But yes, getting to see the kids faces light up
- 22:53and getting to see people's opinions on the animals change.
- 22:58Especially when we have George out or bounce.
- 23:01Who's our smaller ball python?
- 23:03And you have somebody who is terrified of snakes
- 23:07and you talk to them and you coax them a little bit and eventually
- 23:11they'll come up and you see that fear melt away
- 23:14and be replaced by wonder.
- 23:17That's an amazing thing.
- 23:20Well, I've actually I used the word amazing a lot and.
- 23:23It is amazing.
- 23:24This is truly what you're doing is truly amazing.
- 23:27Well, Vicki, is there anything that we missed?
- 23:29Not that I can think of.
- 23:32Well, thank you so much for your time.
- 23:34You're welcome.
- 23:35Thanks for having me on the podcast.
- 23:37And it is a big week for us here in the City and County of Honolulu,
- 23:40specifically in the mayor's office
- 23:41as mayor, Blangiardi prepares to deliver his state of the city address.
- 23:44Following the mayor's speech,
- 23:46we'll be posting the full version right here on the One Oahu Podcast.
- 23:49So if you can't listen in, you can search for it right here.
- 23:52Mahalo for listening. And until next time, Aloha.