Latest / Ecosistemas / Ecosistema de la Soberanía Nacional - Invitado: Dr. Miguel Julio Rodríguez Villafañe
Transcript
- 0:11Ecosystems under the prism of polyhedron. How today' s world works, increasingly
- 0:17complex, more uncertain, changing, seemingly chaotic, a world of all against
- 0:22all or all for all. Not one thing or the other. The world
- 0:28operates in a delicate balance of interacting ecosystems. I propose that you think together
- 0:36about how these ecosystems work. A small pocket manual, perhaps just a bunch
- 0:41of thoughts and reflections that allow us to accommodate, order, orient, understand
- 0:47how we work in these hyper- informed and communicated societies, where it is
- 0:54hard for us to discover their senses and motives every day. I invite you
- 0:59to listen and discover together these ecosystems in which we are often inserted without wanting
- 1:07to be part of them and which, however, are part of our daily
- 1:11struggles and disappointments and under the prism of polyhedron, because every ecosystem is composed
- 1:19of different faces or sides, with its vertices and particularities. Unity in diversity,
- 1:26where the whole is superior to the parties, the agreement superior to the
- 1:30conflict, reality is imposed on the idea and time space. This will allow
- 1:37us to build a sustainable world in an environment full of humanity, in harmony
- 1:42with the unique nature, protective of our existence and of the generations to come
- 1:53welcome to ecosystems under the prism of polyhedrons. In these that we have to
- 2:49live, We invite one to be able to think together the idea of the
- 3:02Argentine institutionality and he with great eloquence and with that flavor, Cordobés told us
- 3:08that we live in an institutional immunodeficiency. And in truth we all suffer from
- 3:16this, some more, perhaps because they are more aware of how the institutions
- 3:23are moving at this time and how those who lead those institutions are put in
- 3:30a complex, almost inexplicable and inconceivable situation. That is why, today,
- 3:36in this ecosystem, I want to reconvene our friend Cordobés so that we can
- 3:44think together about what it means to be sovereign or what sovereignty would be in
- 3:51this globalized world and in this Argentina, where we are losing the helm and
- 3:59also going to a drift that we do not find destiny. It' s
- 4:04a pleasure to hear it again with us, Dr Miguel Julio Rodríguez, Villafañe
- 4:12Hello Dock How he goes, What you say, Luis. There' s
- 4:14always a pleasure chatting with you too how nice so many books, so many
- 4:20books there in your buonk. Yeah, and this is the place of the
- 4:24idea verration. I say to what you have well refreshed that I say to
- 4:29Ninmuno institutional deficiency. This is a serious violation of the Constitution, because it
- 4:36is not really a violation of two or three cases. You see, she
- 4:42doesn' t go with a girl. And this is not a conjunctural pamphlet,
- 4:46because we know that he already said in an interview that Italian television made
- 4:50him, that he would definitely become a member of a state that he considers
- 4:58to be a criminal state, a criminal state and that he would come in
- 5:04to destroy it. He' s definitely not wrong, he' s tearing
- 5:10it apart. The thing is, we don' t react as a society.
- 5:15I' m getting interesting what I' m going to say about sovereignty.
- 5:18Sovereignty has to do with the nation. A nation is its people,
- 5:24its territory and its government. And here we see first that the most important
- 5:30thing of a nation is its people, it is the greatest wealth. And
- 5:34yet, that wealth is being destroyed under the pretext that here there are other
- 5:39superior riches to see debt is in this kind of illicit internal nausuraria And in
- 5:46turn, as if they were more important here of gas, lithium, NAFTA
- 5:48than our own people, that is to say that people die because they have
- 5:56no life assistance, the increase of the prepaid because they are not given the
- 6:01oncological medicines, because they are not fed and here comes the immune deficiency to
- 6:05all these people. There' s a lot of them. Let' s
- 6:14say, we could call hypnotized, because I' m telling you, Luis
- 6:18Mira, your son tells you that he' s hungry today and you tell
- 6:24him not to worry, son of the inside twenty years, we' re
- 6:27going to see America and you forty- five as Ireland. You' re
- 6:30going to look, the son is carrying me today I' m hungry today
- 6:33today, so you have to wait twenty years to do like America and forty
- 6:38- five like Ireland, and society stays. As you say, well,
- 6:42it' s the necessary costs. In turn, they do not explain to
- 6:45us here, because that could still deserve another program and the unconstitutionality that means
- 6:48that the budget is not properly presented to Congress. All this effort is here
- 6:54We are told that this effort to generate employment never saw as much employment as
- 6:59there is and that it will come to stabilize the economy. There has never
- 7:04been inflation like what is happening at the moment to generate new possibilities. No
- 7:11way and to the pain of us, today a law of bases called Base
- 7:16is being tested because it is the long name, imitating it to Verdi,
- 7:23but it is a total surrender. We' re handing over our working class,
- 7:29we' re handing over our finesse, we' re handing over our
- 7:32industry, look at you. Rules are being adopted whereby new companies that theoretically
- 7:36come to invest Here can say import inputs without paying customs duties that are required
- 7:46of our industry. They even have the possibility of taking all their supposed profit
- 7:54abroad and not paying imposed. Here it is located on the outside. In
- 7:58turn, Observe already made clear not only how to provide the internal supply.
- 8:03Now that we have the possibility of having gas and good oil, which we
- 8:09are in a position to compete, it turns out that Acá cannot fix the
- 8:13price and, moreover, if they think about selling all the oil abroad,
- 8:18even if we do not have bad luck and they will put prices in international
- 8:22dollars. Now no one can tell you anything. I think we talked about
- 8:31it on the previous show. There was never a President with as much power
- 8:35and as the other two powers. Let' s say that' s why
- 8:41this crackling of institutions or this immunodeficiency to which it refers. Obviously, if
- 8:45we are in a system of law, because that is how Argentina decided after
- 8:52the military process that ended in one thousand nine hundred and eighty- three,
- 8:56the rule of law is at serious risk because, obviously, a man can
- 9:03from the chair of Rivadavia, submit to the other powers or some power,
- 9:07such as the judicial one, that does not even mark the court. Well,
- 9:13here, well, the issue is more serious, because the problem is
- 9:16not one thing that puts you down, other things that I let you submit,
- 9:20because here' s the problem. You feel the feeling for that Pegame
- 9:24that I like because you really see media political journalist who continue to say that
- 9:31the triumph of this government to the triumph of the country. I don'
- 9:35t know what' s left of the country. With this and I tell
- 9:37you and going to the subject sovereignty look, I want to read textually what
- 9:43our Constitution says in a paragraph that in general no one manages or knows that
- 9:50it is the constitutional reform of nineteen hundred and ninety- four. The Argentine
- 9:56Nation literally ratified its legitimate unspeakable sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands, South Georgia and
- 10:03South Sandwi and the corresponding island maritime areas as an integral part of the national
- 10:09territory. And this must be emphasized by the recovery of that territory and by
- 10:18the full exercise of the plenary session, which I insist on in full sovereignty,
- 10:24are a permanent and inalienable objective of the Argentine people. It' s
- 10:30transitional clause number one. Notice that in that sense President Millay, on April
- 10:3711, left in an almost vassal attitude to interview General Laura Richardson on Tierra
- 10:43el Fuego over even the Authority of Has Fire that had declared her people.
- 10:52We are pleased, because imagine it is an affront to the province of Tierra
- 10:58de Fuego that they see that they are resigning pieces of their integration, such
- 11:05as the Malvinas, the islands of the South Atlantic and the Antarctic sector.
- 11:09And yet this was the President and I repeat again in a colonial vassal attitude.
- 11:16A president does not have to go to the general will be the general
- 11:20to which he has to come to the president and it was to announce that
- 11:26there is going to be a port with the United States, port that,
- 11:31on the other hand, if we realize that our unfailing claims are the Falklands,
- 11:37island of the South Atlantic, is the usual ally of Great Britain,
- 11:43it is the United States and yet we are tending to them the sovereign management
- 11:50of a basic port on a day beyond fire to the front of what the
- 11:56English are doing. To the point that the English are authorizing us even things
- 12:00that do this defense, because the English have authorized the planes and that as
- 12:05bought, I do not know what they are for, because it has an
- 12:09obsolistic technology to the point, such, for example, that already giving of
- 12:11our planes has a range of fifty kilometers and the planes of NATO and England
- 12:18has reach one hundred and fifty kilometers. I mean, while they' re
- 12:22taking the plane off, they already put the big cold missile in you.
- 12:26What use it is to invest three hundred million talo in a moment where there
- 12:30is no money at all, to buy sixteen obsolite planes there, of course,
- 12:35with the approval of NATO, of England of the United States, when
- 12:39it is a moment it became clear and the George of Fresco Cinto always a
- 12:48saying that Economis, an English daily, had of the important participation of the
- 12:54United States in England in the Malvinas War, where our people, our youth,
- 13:01our military and without any power were killed we are giving directly to the
- 13:09English and to whom they are having the sovereignty of our Malvinas, our islands,
- 13:15nothing less than the management of that entire area. Note that the issue
- 13:18is not minor, because now it is not only the Malvinas, but there
- 13:22we have the hanged island, Georgia, Sandwich and the Antarctic sector, because,
- 13:28on the basis that England has consolidated this criterion of remaining in the Malvinas,
- 13:35it has a projection on the Antarctic sector that overlaps with ours. That
- 13:39is, they are now claiming the same territory that we claim. We have
- 13:48to know in turn that the south pole is not equal to the north pole.
- 13:52Why it' s not the same north pole. It' s just
- 13:54ice to the touch point. A submarine passed it down. Ours below has
- 13:58the s s out of gicticultural riches. And also, now that place became
- 14:05a strategic place in a multipolar world, because we know that by chance the
- 14:11poles are now looking for all countries to have presence, because in the face
- 14:18of the eventuality of a war, today, with a missile on the Panama
- 14:22Canal, it ended and crossed the Panama Canal. Sure, that' s
- 14:26why you' re looking for alternatives. Sure the global singing see if you
- 14:33can go through the north, but it is always seasonally dependent for the only
- 14:37step that you have all year and is central is ours for the south of
- 14:41Argentina out of Horn. And all those things here are tremendous strategic criteria in
- 14:48turn. On the other hand, our President, as if it were not
- 14:52enough, intends to associate our country with full association, it is already a
- 14:58moment that tried something, but it does not associate full section with NATO,
- 15:03which, on the other hand, Lautn is now an alliance of the North
- 15:07Atlantic, as I know. We are in the south, no no,
- 15:11but it has full associates like Japan, which we would do outside. But
- 15:16the problem is that being a full associate means that if they go to war,
- 15:22it' s us. At this point, no one is talking about
- 15:26the fact that this President has put us into three wars, the war in
- 15:31Ukraine, in which it would have been one thing to send humanitarian food medicines.
- 15:39And another thing is the attitude of the President, who even opens up
- 15:43is going to be an international congress in favor of the views of the present
- 15:50government of Ukraine. Another, the Middle East Presence against our traditional peace proposal
- 15:56and even against a decision that Mila and as a national deputy co- signed,
- 16:03when last November, last year, he issued a statement saying that,
- 16:07of course, terrorist acts and Israel' s right to defence cannot be assessed,
- 16:12but it is made clear that Israel will be able to defend itself while
- 16:21respecting international humanitarian law. What Israel is not doing, with a real genocide
- 16:26against the Palestinian people and our President directly, recently there was a decision at
- 16:33the United Nations where that Israeli action was casually criticized, and our country voted
- 16:41against things that always run into. Go had always been propitiating peace and the
- 16:48Third War and with China and Taiwan, China has always maintained a view that
- 16:56Taiwan is part of its territory. That is why it does not allow Taiwan
- 17:03to be recognized as an independent country. The only country that recognized it in
- 17:06Latin America is Paraguay. But because Taiwan came and made it all Congress,
- 17:11the Paraguayan Congress building free turnkey, but we notice that on the one hand
- 17:17it goes to Mondino and obviously nothing happens other than what was going to happen,
- 17:22which failed in its mission with China. Meanwhile, there have been two
- 17:26MEPs from the Miley Group invited by Taiwan to go to Taiwan. Now all
- 17:34that in turn, no one analyzes the costs. Here it is said that
- 17:40savings are made because the ordinance that serves coffee in Congress is not now given
- 17:45as it was made to change life. Now who takes care of the costs
- 17:48it has in Argentina that now the Chinese Sua do not allow us to use
- 17:53it that now China has said that it will buy soy Brazil and cane from
- 17:56Australia. How much we do and who takes care of that cost of eccentricity
- 18:03and stupidity that Ofecina did. What a vocation to put your fingers in the
- 18:08plug. We' re with Dr Miguel Rodríguez Villazañez and we' re going
- 18:15to pause, because it' s so much we have to think adage in
- 18:44my country I quote pink how sad poverty or she doesn' t earn b
- 19:04the little bit of time. Another one who went and tells me that they
- 19:10are shining over a town that he dreams farmer opposed poor or pen mother wants
- 20:07s my father is only a traitor. I will be with a thousand braves
- 20:22the one hundred deyuse immense pain. Today series the baby declares pain or obte.
- 20:41The father wants my country. We are the devil' s future a
- 21:32song of parfs of the fetá my people and no one will be able to
- 21:42silence their song and bathe so well sing my country. There are two of
- 21:59us in the future fighting my country that lukewarms when I see dawn I dissembled
- 22:48my people that can his hand work the fate and that there is no dividing
- 22:56king, that can give him the road to retie how much my father loves,
- 23:36we rites sun of the people from where two we go We continue in
- 23:49this ecosystem of national sovereignty with Dr Miguel Rodríguez Villafañe, with our dear friend
- 23:55Cordobés. I thought the concept of sovereignty since nations were created. At this
- 24:02time, it has obviously changed. Globalization leads us to rethink the concept of
- 24:08sovereignty. It is enough for us to have a cell phone to know how
- 24:15much there is sovereign in all the processes of digital communication, How it is
- 24:25commercialized today in a globalized world, how it comes to invest now with these
- 24:29new laws that allow, as the doctor said, that come capital, even
- 24:33without knowing the origin of those capitals, to invest to Argentina. How much
- 24:37of that original concept of sovereignty has changed. But at the same time,
- 24:42how I think there is a free movement of money, there is free movement
- 24:51of services and products. Now what is still being argued is that there is
- 24:56no free movement of people. No. People cannot move freely around the world
- 25:00and borders are still intransigent as to the possibility of one person crossing from one
- 25:07place to another. Just think about what happens in Mexico or what happens in
- 25:11Gasa. However, trafficking in persons is one of the most formidable crimes in
- 25:18the world. After weapons and drugs, human trafficking comes. In this I
- 25:26want us to think together about what a sovereign country should be today. First,
- 25:32you ate this detail. When we see them under my law, we
- 25:36have to learn to play Tate IT three to mention. We have been a
- 25:41generation that I have learned in one plane to play the TATETI, but now
- 25:45we have a plane, two planes and three planes we live a reality overlapping
- 25:52simultaneously and between crusaders. Wow, what does it mean that there can already
- 25:56be conditioning plane two, plane one and plane three and to be roughed this
- 26:02to what comes the concept of this interesting. Now it' s Miley'
- 26:08s Internet plan and Miley' s plan is being clear. Let' s
- 26:14imagine a three- layer buttonhole cake. Don' t let go of the
- 26:18sweet milk we' re fascinated by. The first layer we are now seeing
- 26:22is certain to destroy the power of the State as an organizational structure. Then
- 26:32comes the second layer, which is not minor and has to do with sovereignty.
- 26:36It' s the kind of education and information. If we know that
- 26:41in another country it was what it was and what I intend not to disarm
- 26:47was thanks to free and quality public education that allowed it, social permeability integrated
- 26:55those who came to populate the Argentine soil for so many immigrants. And that
- 27:02has been and is key for us in turn to have a hidden people with
- 27:07capacity. Now science, culture, art and the other subject that one is
- 27:14less and has to do with sovereignty, for example, with the purported elimination
- 27:15of Telan, for example, Tailan is a news agency in this world that
- 27:22gives us personality to the world because it presents us for what we are,
- 27:29because what they say we are, because as we go to the news of
- 27:33Argentina, we are, namely, by CNN based in Atlanta. But the
- 27:38third layer is the world that is intended to come, which is being delivered,
- 27:45which is the world of managing Internet multinationals. Over the states. That
- 27:52' s why Miley' s with him, or more with Larry Frink Slink,
- 27:57because that makes us appear in decision- making. If a world comes
- 28:02at least with that criterion that Milay is taking us, where political decisions are
- 28:06going to take them away and governments are going to be less administrations of the
- 28:10decisions they make elsewhere, for which we have to be aware that I have
- 28:14also changed a concept, which is what worries me the most or two concepts.
- 28:19One. You cannot imagine a country without territory or people living in that
- 28:26territory. Now, if I ask you, Louis, your address, you
- 28:32look good place x yes, but that' s how long ago I received
- 28:37a letter from us Only intimations from Wales or taxes. Your domicide, like
- 28:41anyone who wants to be in the world, is virtual, it' s
- 28:45in the air completely, it doesn' t totally boss territory, the domicide.
- 28:49This email will already be verencia with none today, even from the field
- 28:56of justice, to be in any one lawsuit if it requires having an email
- 29:02where it is notified already and the new regulations lead to that actually in the
- 29:08addresses of each of us were digital domain. That' s not why we
- 29:15let raio have it first. Then something else comes, which is to kill
- 29:19us rites. What' s this got to do with anything? Note that
- 29:22in the previous basic law in this one is not repeated previewed that a student
- 29:30at nine years of age can decide is more, not go to the classroom
- 29:33anymore. And that is extremely serious the law currently demands that it be face
- 29:41- to- face, except for situations such as the pandemic. But how
- 29:42important the school is not only to inform, but to train. And it
- 29:48wasn' t just a pun, because maybe the teacher doesn' t have
- 29:52as much stuff as an Internet tutorial. But reading to school means you first
- 29:56start living the atmosphere of a democratic community, because there found the best friends,
- 30:03friends maybe what didn' t match, etcetera. But a beautiful coexistence
- 30:10at that stage and there are generated the rites that make to nationality. I
- 30:15always heard the example. I' m a sluggard grandfather who goes to my
- 30:19grandkids' school and I' m excited to sing the aurora when they raise
- 30:25the flag. Those rites don' t unify in common stories. That is
- 30:30to say, I am almost seventy- three years old with my grandson,
- 30:33who is six years old, I explain to myself those cries that make nationality,
- 30:38which make our raison d'être at a time when there are sectors
- 30:44that have come to break that. When Macrip told the two hundred years of
- 30:48Argentina, to the king of Spain, the truth was that we suffered a
- 30:52lot from breaking away from you by breaking the historical logic of what happened well,
- 30:57but he did not break that and not breaking with the ideas of the
- 31:00monarchies. Let' s say how we are pre- existed as pre-
- 31:07existing and valuable in themselves. No, well, of course all that to
- 31:10those humals, there' s a tendency here to give priority. And the
- 31:14Internet. I' m not a person. I think we need to get
- 31:17her out, because I think it' s an advance of society, et
- 31:18cetera. But if our youth is formed only on the Internet, it is
- 31:22not going to be prepared to move forward a homeland with common interests, because
- 31:30on the Internet, first of all, that you don' t like it
- 31:33you cancel, then you don' t feel compelled to respect the other,
- 31:36to integrate. It is essential that we relive and breathe something common, which
- 31:41is what it does to a community, to a territory and to a common
- 31:45government. Now that I hear it, now that I hear it, I
- 31:49' m seeing how the worlds are either individual of the person in front of
- 31:56the apparatus or global in terms of the corporations, which are the ones that
- 32:01lead that relationship process. But the intermediate, that is, the social,
- 32:06the communitarian, what it does to the bodies and to the people is as
- 32:09attacked, not as clear nullified is not only isolated, but now appear what
- 32:15I call transversal homelands. Now how much the pandemic helped turn that phenomenon into
- 32:23hegemonic. Not locking everything up, and that also forces us to rethink.
- 32:30There are no things that need to be thought of according to the nine realities.
- 32:36We have a system. For example, the ninety- four construction reform
- 32:38fell short, for example, in detail. It is inconceivable to be there
- 32:44keeping in the claus in the construction that says that Congress ceases to function on
- 32:47December 1st and returns to function on March 1st only unless the President convened extraordinary
- 32:52that. In the year one thousand eight hundred and fifty- three it was
- 32:59logical for you because a representative of Juju and had a month in cart until
- 33:02going to Googy and another month in carfeta to return. So how would I
- 33:05represent Juice And if I wasn' t at least a month away, I
- 33:07would hear what they thought, what those people felt. But now it happens
- 33:10sometimes. I say, a deputy from Corba has the possibility of arriving before
- 33:15Congress that, perhaps disputed the province of Buenos Aires, that comes from the
- 33:17silver, that grabs a congestion, a series of costs. We can vary
- 33:22three hours of silver, Buenos Aires sees that here an hour of plane and
- 33:24airplane there is congress or twenty minutes, thirty minutes it is easier to arrive
- 33:30from Cordoba and that, perhaps, a deputy from the silver in proviche of
- 33:34Buenos Aires. That forces us to sit down and see, but it is
- 33:38true that this also has to do with many sectors that accompanied thousands and especially
- 33:44young people. We have to buzz. What I say walls build bridges,
- 33:50but to find the roads, because look here. We' re not reacting.
- 33:55And recently, very recently, they laughed at Argentine in Malvina Ahumar recently
- 34:02a cruise that carried Argentines on those cruises by the South fjords. He wanted
- 34:13to go down Malvina to improve the crossings and visit his debtors, and there
- 34:17were one hundred and seventy Argentines and they were not allowed to go down in
- 34:23the Malvinas Islands by the Falklands Authority. Meanwhile, our minist, Foreign Minister
- 34:30Mondino, merely casually told the English Chancellor the next time he came to visit
- 34:38Buenos Aires, a thing that did not fit and she defended herself by saying
- 34:45and if the English hurt the irony more than the frontal things, here would
- 34:50have deserved a formal answer of not accepting that chancellor. But the Chancellor came
- 34:58a month after having been talking to Miley, after the seven digits and now
- 35:02comes the other subject, which is not minor, because it is not only
- 35:05our south and our sea anymore. We recall that now it has entered if
- 35:08in the use of the Congress an American frigate that is supposed to be such
- 35:15wal tam analyzing a lot of things for the control of the Argentine South Sea,
- 35:20but that the General Room of Port and together with Brigadier General of Army
- 35:25Command of the United States, Daniel Ibner, have signed a memorandum for engineers
- 35:34of the American army, as he manages it, and intervene in those that
- 35:42they call the water way or what we could call the waterway for the companion,
- 35:47for the companion. That' s what I want to take care of.
- 35:50But we are going to make a step for Don Cita Rosa Don Alfredo
- 35:55who, regarding that you are Córdoba is Alfredo, lived a long time in
- 36:00Córdoba and was a radio announcer There, in Córdoba and makes these tenths for
- 36:06the Argentine people, There in my pagua there is a town that is called
- 36:24do not forget me, who does not know that I take care of your
- 36:32memory as a gem, because there are forgetfulness that Mary, there are memories
- 36:38that magnify, things that do not seem like floating temanos or below us.
- 36:40They' re submerged giants that shudder my people. It' s a low
- 36:57serene sea, a stormy sky to have it in your life. He slows
- 37:01the thunderstorms, he was able to breed in his bosom the heap of other
- 37:08hours and when the time arrives tomorrow he will also be able to nail a
- 37:15thousand stars to his will in the aurora. There is nothing more inapure than
- 37:29a people doing history, it is not seduced by glory or imagined by the
- 37:35future. He marches safely, calculating every step and what seems to be backward
- 37:42is often soon transformed into things that for the fool are the cause of his
- 37:47failure. My people are not Argentine, Paraguayan or Southern It is called the
- 37:52Oriental people because of their destiny, but it travels the path of their beloved
- 37:59brothers, that of so many sumito, that of Morena America, the blood
- 38:04of whose veins also beats on their side. My people were far from being
- 38:19absent from the tragic and bitter history of the continent. We went on a
- 38:28balcony in front of a ruined tenant, that of Latin America frustrated in bad
- 38:35loves, cultivating some flowers between Brazil and Argentina, but much did not last
- 38:51the flowers on the balcony. The rocker and his reckless ambition cut them off
- 38:58and they were the same hands that ruined him. He verges the ones that
- 39:02killed him, the ones that today show greedy. Instead of the rose bouquet,
- 39:07some paper flowers. There is no lack of the nostalgic bobalicón of the
- 39:25garden, but among all the crook is the one who brought the thief.
- 39:29That one has no forgiveness. If they protect their profits. The decency and
- 39:34ignorance of the people are their loves. He doesn' t find any better
- 39:38causes to buy himself. Another stay is oriental, neither gringo nor brazilero.
- 39:44His passion is money, because he' s a global multinational liar. Ever
- 39:50since she came here, she' s been thinking about her bank accounts,
- 39:55pondering the poets who make it out of clumsy recipes, extrapalal songs. So
- 40:10there will be no way that we do not walk. Together. We'
- 40:15re dealing with the same thing. Orientals and Argentines, Ecuadorians, Bueino,
- 40:22Venezuelans, Cuzqueños, Whites, Blacks and Trigueños forged at work, we were
- 40:29born of the same expense of the tree of our dreams. And now,
- 40:44gentlemen, receive a fraternal greeting. Says my eastern people. Better numbers of
- 40:51our loves will come. I put my homeland in the fright of my people
- 40:58and their blights. I can' t talk to them I just wanted to
- 41:04give them their heart. After Don Alfredo quotes pink this of crossing a Cordobes
- 41:15with a Uruguayan. Well, here we are in the ecosystem of national sovereignty,
- 41:20along with Dr Miguel Rodríguez and Villafañe, who let you see something that
- 41:25I wanted to ask you clearly that yes, that is the administration of the
- 41:31Paraná River and this memorandum of understanding that allows you to water it, as
- 41:36they say, in truth, the river itself, that is not only ours,
- 41:42but that it is part of a basin, that is the silver basin,
- 41:45that controls four countries, that is Bolivia, that is Paraguay, that
- 41:50is Brazil, that is Uruguay. And yet we now allow the engineers of
- 41:55the American army to promote in some way control or develop some kind of activity
- 42:06that has to do with the draught, with the entry and exit of our
- 42:08ships. Not clear and even look, resigning it this sovereignty, our sovereignty.
- 42:16I tell you things like that. Much of the Argentine products come out
- 42:22on their own or stop. That' s why it' s called hydrovia
- 42:25to say nothing, because they don' t do anything to you at all.
- 42:28That makes me run. The casinos. You saw the casinos the word
- 42:31swallows currency, they' re not used. No. It' s true
- 42:35he' s eating you coins all the way. They say scrots, they
- 42:37say slots no. And besides, casino propaganda tells us they' re casinos.
- 42:43Look at the football t- shirts and many propagandas on television tell us
- 42:49the word casino. That' s what I' m telling you at the
- 42:55casino. They don' t tell you to swallow coins, because you'
- 42:58re going to feel the feeling that lotus money is being taken and here they
- 43:05' re also stealing the Paraná River and telling you hydrovia. But look,
- 43:07I' m very important, the strategic, because that' s where a
- 43:13lot comes out, not to say eighty percent of our wealth that to vary
- 43:17notice, we have no port of ours, unfortunately, because they are of
- 43:24great multinationals. They have been privatized, privatized in the 1990s. Well,
- 43:30look, one of the things we let go of was insantine Byzantine. I
- 43:34' m going to make an opportunity to really already vindicate an Argentine port.
- 43:38But the issue is this problem no longer only the Argentine port, but there
- 43:42is no control and the new laws try to eliminate controls. You know that
- 43:46the mining companies pay taxes by affidavit look and I would like to know if
- 43:53on board the electrics they would let you pay the electricity consumption by affidavit and
- 43:59don' t turn red. Don' t listen to the pimples or surprise.
- 44:05The port scales are always broken. Then just make a good calculation of
- 44:10how much the ship goes down and, depending on that, determine the load.
- 44:15It' s not serious here that it' s the big part.
- 44:19It' s not harvested. He' s coming to Paraguay. It'
- 44:22s not controlled because you remember it' s not a bag with a kilo
- 44:28of sorro. Trucks pass, because if you think about how many Paraguayan barges
- 44:31they carry from Paraguay soy, Paraguay would have to have the harvest equivalent to
- 44:37four crops, five crops from all over the country are channeling much of the
- 44:44elevation around there. Also Argentina, of course, but this is not the
- 44:47policy of retentions has not led to a distortion of this process to the extent
- 44:52that, as it rightly says, Paraguay is not greater producer than Argentina.
- 44:59Via Villa Palma, my new Palmira, which is the port of Uruguay.
- 45:02Not like this. It is therefore important to note that in this sense too,
- 45:08I do not need to tell you that drugs and so many other things
- 45:13are going on there too, and indubitably, he wants control. And now
- 45:15it would seem that if we don' t have American search, our prefecture
- 45:23is useless, our gendarmerie is useless. Of course, we' re underestimating
- 45:30our own organizations to depend on the United States, which doesn' t call
- 45:32you in. Sometimes you know if the U S controls the drug or controls
- 45:38the drug money so it doesn' t go into your hands. There is
- 45:40a very good film called the messenger, where it appeared that the U S
- 45:45government imports a lot of drugs because it needed to make money to give it
- 45:50Nicaragua' s cons, because with that it had not authorized more money for
- 45:54that. I mean, here we are in a rather hypocritical, but fundamental
- 45:59thing. The whole construction is being violated, because it is the faculty and
- 46:04congress of the nation to authorize the entry and departure of troops, not to
- 46:09mention this aspect that makes national security. Note that law 23 500 fifty-
- 46:13four specifically states that the sovereignty and independence of the Argentine nation, its territorial
- 46:19integrity and the capacity for self- determination must be guaranteed on a permanent basis.
- 46:28That' s the law of national defcance. Not clear and adds you
- 46:30and this touches all of us. National defence is a right and a duty
- 46:35for all Argentines. That is why there is unacceptable here, even in violation
- 46:40of the Penal Code, which casually says that serious criminal acts can be committed
- 46:47in the chay a fact aimed at totado, partially subjecting the nation to a
- 46:52foreign domain or less to see its independence and integrity. The truth is that
- 46:58you are already going to be like a rich port, which is called a
- 47:00protectorate, where the United States does the external defense and good everything with all
- 47:07these violations or with these demonstrations about the construction of the naval base joint with
- 47:13the United States. There, in Patagonia, the Rio Administration stops with the
- 47:20memorandum an understanding with the United States that implies, as it rightly says,
- 47:23constitutional violations that lead to the President being infamous traitor to the homeland no twenty
- 47:30- nine and thirty- six of the Constitution. Yes, several constitutionalists have
- 47:37been working to develop a measure or to request a judicial measure in the face
- 47:44of this assault. Tell me a little bit about that learned. That is
- 47:46why, with Dr Eduardo Barcésar, Dr Daniel Leva Palmaya and I prepared a
- 47:55pasture in representation of the Interaction Foundation for the Culture of Water and the Group
- 48:01for the sovereignty that it is processing in the civil and commercial court and containment
- 48:08its Federal Administative of the Silver number two. And here was another topic to
- 48:13point out as well. In our institutional crisis, we do so as an
- 48:17Argentine and valuable to these institutions that also want to take these approaches. But
- 48:24here it must mean that we are missing a lot of years to do more
- 48:31accurate fourteen years, that the Congress assigns the defense of the people of the
- 48:36Nation, that would be the concrete representative to make these arguments, a justice
- 48:42that sometimes one does not know if they go out with stupidity and as the
- 48:45Court has lately come out in so many things that we do not have a
- 48:50personhood that this cannot be done if there is not a concrete fact or things
- 48:53like that, as happened with the Rigio as happened with the or and many
- 48:59cases of thattino, not only with that of the OAS, but the FISI
- 49:02approach, the Gil Gill Dominguez approach. The Supreme Court came up with that
- 49:07there' s no concrete case, etcetera. That is very interesting what he
- 49:10says, because it implies that he has a conservative criterion. The Court is
- 49:15not as if it were repelled not to intervene. Let' s say something
- 49:22worse. Look, I did this, maybe it' ll be another test.
- 49:25But here is a strategy that needs to be denounced that we are experiencing,
- 49:30a situation that is dealt with very few by the newspapers of the Chief
- 49:32of Staff. At this moment the President has proposed two ministers of the Court,
- 49:38the son and García Mansilla, who are already publishing their antecedent and there
- 49:43are fifteen days to challenge it. First and foremost, one wonders about a
- 49:47five- member court. It' s gonna be five men. There is
- 49:51no presence of the woman and one of the vacancies in the archive was a
- 49:53woman, but what about these of this notice. The court is four at
- 49:59this time He is retired by the end of the year. Twenty- nine
- 50:05of December leaves Loren Cetti Rossatti Rossen. Of course, Rosen Crack is the
- 50:09essence of this project, because the Rosen studio is one of all the companies
- 50:15that are interested in the things that are coming out of the base law and
- 50:19at the time they pretended to be tenebucete. I want you to make milaye
- 50:23notice, they' re appointing a court minister before it becomes the vacancy.
- 50:27Of course, to tell the international powers. Look, I' ve got
- 50:30that guaranteed three votes out of five. García, Mancilla and Rossen Crack said,
- 50:36because Fosati has already said it would be unconstitutional to dollarize. Loren Cetti
- 50:43has managed to accommodate himself from one side to the other. With those three
- 50:45he goes to international powers, says Seen no longer worry. I can make
- 50:49the atrocity bigger than here in Nobody' s gonna stop me and I have
- 50:52the guarantee that the Court and it' s going to validate mine now somehow.
- 50:57Yeah, somehow. This is also happening with the basic law not as
- 51:01they need to give signals to the outside to prove I do not know the
- 51:09possibility that they will come to rescue with the money that is needed to be
- 51:15able to consolidate this that is happening and to propose that there is legal certainty
- 51:21so that they can bring the money. What happens is that the other party
- 51:22that NADI here says legal certainty for what. That is, in the last
- 51:29instance, all this effort for what. I sometimes feel the feeling that my
- 51:32law is like a dietitian trucho not to come I' m going to make
- 51:38it thin in a week at least twelve thirteen kilos serious. A week without
- 51:44the Internet, that chao 13 kilos a week weighs 13 kilos less, but
- 51:50a stone was cut, a pine tree was cut. They' re cutting
- 51:54our legs here, arms hands, so underestimating our ps. They' re
- 52:00handing over our wealth Look at you. What is the counterpart for what we
- 52:05make this effort, a thing that you at home say. We' re
- 52:07going to make an effort because we have to raise money, propordate it to
- 52:10Grandpa. There' s a reason to be out here that the jubilants are
- 52:14getting worse and worse. They say that one of the objectives of government is
- 52:17to preserve property. I ask you the salary of a worker or worker or
- 52:24retirement is not property. She doesn' t deserve to be preserved. Like
- 52:30he' s never attacked. Then they clarify what property. The one we
- 52:32are defending, the usury property, that of great international interests, delivering wealth
- 52:38to our homeland or the real riches that are our people and our country,
- 52:45with a national sense, not pejorative. I hope we will join Latin America
- 52:50again, which awaits us. But this does not lead us anywhere and I
- 52:53would like to know this sacrifice but goes once again into pockets of financial speculator.
- 53:00In conclusion, what do you expect from this amparo, what could happen
- 53:05with the amparo they presented, which, as you say, is in silver,
- 53:08in Tribunal de la Plata. So that' s where he showed up.
- 53:15Well, for the moment, see that justice gives a signal, because
- 53:21we don' t have a Ombudsman here. No one deals with those issues.
- 53:24On the other hand, political sectors are looking the other way. That
- 53:30' s how we get attention. We' re not a pamphletist. We
- 53:34' re showing them with concrete things. You saw what happened. I repeat
- 53:38again. There are means and I always recognize your courage. Luis and many
- 53:44other journalists who are talking about so many necessary things. But it' s
- 53:49true Look, no one here is saying what' s behind this. No
- 53:52one is saying the damage that is being done. And, on the other
- 53:57hand, it would seem that the homeland is enemies, whatever it stays,
- 54:00what it leaves, what it makes a march, what it defends the universities,
- 54:05what it says it defends property and self- determination. Indeed, there
- 54:08are trade unions that have made a collective bargaining agreement and they have agreed to
- 54:13a wage break and are not approved. The plot ministry doesn' t remember
- 54:15things from us either. Sure, he' s not here either. They
- 54:19' re not libertarians for that. Sure, there' s no freedom for
- 54:22that. I mean, there' s no property for workers and retirees.
- 54:28There is no property for workers who want to have their salary properly. That
- 54:32' s right. Now taxes are being lowered on personal goods, on sectors
- 54:37that have the most power and an unjust tax is being put again, which
- 54:42is evil Yam has imposed on profits on the working sectors, so they have
- 54:45no coherence, unless they are stealing the country from us. And I'
- 54:51m telling you, for my pain, they' re stealing our country.
- 54:52We have to section. Thank you very much for this time and I commit
- 54:58you to a third programme where we are going to speak exclusively of the Court,
- 55:02because I believe that the Court deserves an entire ecosystem to go thinking of
- 55:09that third power that today shines by its strategic absence shines by its absence and
- 55:15by a political class that, as it well says, it does not know
- 55:22for which side to shoot or vote with the middle hand that is not seen
- 55:28or mourns when voting, as has happened to some Members who say everything yes
- 55:36but no, or say everyone no, but yes, better said no.
- 55:37Like this. Good morning. Everything, thank you very much and very kind,
- 55:44as always in this time, to help us think these things that are
- 55:47important. I' ll send you a special hug. Thank you for all
- 55:51that Dr Miguel Julio Rodríguez Villafañe does in this ecosystem of sovereignty, a sovereignty
- 55:55that is plenques we did not already see. It is in clen and,
- 56:00however, there are defenders like him and other constitutionalists who continue to claim in
- 56:07this case through an amparo trying to show specifically in what concrete and real facts
- 56:15Argentina is today losing its own sovereignty in the technical operation, as always says
- 56:21yellow equiel in the Melina Reboa production. My name is Luis del Giovannino.
- 56:24Thank you for being in ecosystems until all times. Buchas or are the jus