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LIVE: Did Oklahoma get some GREAT NEWS? Sooner's Recruiting Struggles Continue (S3 E17) · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: What the heck is going on. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: that and a lot of other stuff here on the
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  Speaker 1: Sooner or Later Sport Show. Thank y'all for pulling up
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  Speaker 1: of course, that is Coop. I am Jay. Thanks pulling
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  Speaker 1: feet like subscribe, rate review, give us five stars. You know,
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  Speaker 1: people deserve it. I ain't give us five anyway, and
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  Speaker 1: gifted so own today's episode of The Sooner or Later
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  Speaker 1: Sport Show. Me and Coop got a few things we
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  Speaker 1: need to dive into, like the latest recruiting whiffs, and
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  Speaker 1: there is potential for some great news right behind it.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the strategy as well as who
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  Speaker 1: do we see still on the list, and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: wrap things up. It is sec media days. That's why
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  Speaker 1: you see me traveling and Coop has a vendetta again
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  Speaker 1: Superman and I don't understand why we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: all of that here, Coop. Happy Sunday, my man? How
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  Speaker 1: are you?
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  Speaker 2: Jay? I'm fighting off a food coma. I know this.
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  Speaker 2: This ain't Facebook and nobody needs to see no pictures
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that. But uh, man, you know it's
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  Speaker 2: the weather has been crazy. But with crazy weather comes
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  Speaker 2: like a great garden, right, and my wife loves loves
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  Speaker 2: gardening it up. And so I get to use get
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  Speaker 2: to use the Blackstone pretty much, pretty much four or
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  Speaker 2: five times a week. Uh, to you know, get some
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  Speaker 2: garden veggies. And so uh we pushed the pushed the
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  Speaker 2: show back a little bit for a couple of different reasons.
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  Speaker 2: And uh and man, I just I decided I would
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  Speaker 2: eat myself without any hesitation, not eat myself, but eat
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  Speaker 2: my fill. And yeah, cannibalism is I I went to
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  Speaker 2: therapy for self cannibalism and it's over. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: to mess with that anymore. But self can just trying
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  Speaker 2: to trying to trying to stay awake, but kind of
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  Speaker 2: excited now because we got it. We got some fun topics.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some fun topics. And I think the
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  Speaker 1: self cannibalism piece is a little bit on the weird side.
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  Speaker 1: We won't go too far into that, even though I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually kind of intrigued by the idea that you are
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  Speaker 1: here to self cannibalize. Said, that's funny our yet Wow,
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  Speaker 1: everybody that is coming out here to where I'm at.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here in Atlanta at SEC Media Days. As you
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  Speaker 1: can see behind me another hotel room. Your boy's always
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  Speaker 1: going to go. And it was hell getting here. It
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  Speaker 1: was hell getting here too hot Atlanta. I'm seeing online
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  Speaker 1: now that Cole Kublick is dealing with traffic like crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Alyssa Lange says she just got here after five hours
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  Speaker 1: of traffic from Charlotte Commissioner Paul Paul. Greg Sankey's white
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  Speaker 1: has been delayed, and yeah, he's gonna be like a
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  Speaker 1: super late. So he's on the list of what we're
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  Speaker 1: all dealing with, which is very fascinating. But me mine,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I'm gonna tell you all my quick story
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  Speaker 1: of how bad it is, and this is why I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of looking kind of glossy here. But thank y'all
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  Speaker 1: for pulling up. We appreciate y'all always joining us for
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  Speaker 1: the evenings. The rooms are filling up. We've got about
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  Speaker 1: eighty people populating in here on this stream. Thank you'll
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  Speaker 1: for joining. So Coop, I was scheduled to get here
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  Speaker 1: today at two thirty three o'clock I think Christern time.
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  Speaker 1: So I was pretty excited about that. That meant because
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  Speaker 1: it was a direct flight from Oklahoma City on Delta,
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  Speaker 1: so that means I was not gonna be here until
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  Speaker 1: I had to leave until eleven fifty was my flight time,
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  Speaker 1: So perfect. Saturday night, got stuff together, started packing, verifying
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  Speaker 1: I had all my equipment, my extends, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: I got my big mic stuff so I can record
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  Speaker 1: some shows and locked on sooners here while we're here,
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  Speaker 1: and all of that. So I'm getting all this stuff
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  Speaker 1: packed up, put it together, put in the back. It's
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  Speaker 1: about eleven o'clock. I'm like all right, showered up, climbed
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  Speaker 1: in the bed, decided to go ahead and fall asleep.
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  Speaker 1: Around twelve thirty, twelve forty five, I woke up. I
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  Speaker 1: have a tendency of doing that. I'm getting old, so
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  Speaker 1: I wake up random for no reason. So I'm pissed, like,
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  Speaker 1: what is this? Why am I awake? This is dumb?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let me go get up and get some benadryl.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my butts asleep somehow, so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get about to get up. So I said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: of course, the thing we all do. We start doom scrolling.
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  Speaker 1: I grabbed my phone see if any news is populated.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I noticed there was the during the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: stuff that's going on the House and the Score Act
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  Speaker 1: and those nil deals that have been declined. The opposing
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  Speaker 1: attorneys just filed and said that's violating the settlement. So
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  Speaker 1: that's about to get interesting again. And so I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to see if there was another like Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: news dump something that I may have missed. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking and I get a notification my phone. I got
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  Speaker 1: an email Delta just told me my flight was canceled.
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  Speaker 1: What how is my flight canceled? Coop? What am I
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  Speaker 1: supposed to do here? So I get up, go to
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  Speaker 1: my computer, hop on there, do my research, do my digging,
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  Speaker 1: and they couldn't move me to another flight. The reason
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't move me to another flight automatically was because
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  Speaker 1: the only flights available were seven am. My alarm was
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  Speaker 1: set to wake up at eight. I was gonna sleep
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  Speaker 1: right through a flight going through. So I schedule it, finally,
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  Speaker 1: get everything settled, have a seven o'clock flight to New
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  Speaker 1: York that connects there and brings it back to Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Because all of the direct flights are full and I
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  Speaker 1: got two hours of sleep. So your boy is here
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  Speaker 1: on mumes, but excited to talk to you all and
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  Speaker 1: to answer the question that's in here. Oklahoma Day is
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, So I'm gonna pull out my handy dandy
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  Speaker 1: pamphlet from here, and I'm gonna tell y'all the dates
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  Speaker 1: real quick, so y'all have them, and then we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about recruiting and why we actually push this stream back.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, Coop, I am on these yumes and hopefully
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  Speaker 1: bad things don't happen me today. Well I'm stous just
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  Speaker 1: say that.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, you look good. I mean, some people, they
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  Speaker 2: they're they're just zombies on the airplane. They're they're walking
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  Speaker 2: around and you're just like, how's this person a functioning
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  Speaker 2: human being? Listen, I've been on I've been on the
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  Speaker 2: Red Eyes. I have gotten in from a night with
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  Speaker 2: a client at like two thirty am and then ordered
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  Speaker 2: the uber to arrive at five. You know I've done
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  Speaker 2: all those. So you look better than I do. So
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  Speaker 2: then so I'll give you. I'll give you, I'll give
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  Speaker 2: you credit to that.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that, you know, I did a really good
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  Speaker 1: job of pampering my face live. I just I have
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  Speaker 1: I've had a few beers and I have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of water, so and I just ate and so I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be good for about two more hours and then
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just, you know, pass out. And so
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  Speaker 1: you guys get to have a fun episode of me
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  Speaker 1: probably rambling in a lot of capacities. But let's get
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  Speaker 1: off of that. Let's talk about what we're here for.
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  Speaker 1: First and foremost. We pushed the show back because rumor
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  Speaker 1: has had it that we might get some news on
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  Speaker 1: the recruiting trail, potentially a commitment, potentially a top teams.
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  Speaker 1: Something may come tonight, but we don't know who and what,
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  Speaker 1: which is the most annoying part. So it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if it's good stuff, we're gonna wait. We're gonna push
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  Speaker 1: it back and push it back and hopefully we can
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  Speaker 1: talk about it and it happens while we're here live,
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  Speaker 1: and it appears that we're probably not gonna get that lucky.
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  Speaker 1: So guess what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna like
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  Speaker 1: pretend like it's not gonna happen, but we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about all the bad stuff. As Robert here has posted
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  Speaker 1: in here. Over the last couple of weeks, Oklahoma has
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  Speaker 1: lost recuse to Wisconsin, Illinois, Kentucky. Bayley b why you
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  Speaker 1: okaham mistake and a big problem or big question is
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  Speaker 1: why I'm gonna be honest. I don't see it as
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  Speaker 1: a big problem, but it is interesting on how these
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote struggles have gone, especially past July one, all
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  Speaker 1: the ones before July one, Coop I did I saw
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  Speaker 1: as oh, y'all just gonna f low people money. And
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  Speaker 1: if there's one thing I'm gonna be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: are Oklahoma is not just gonna toss people money before.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't gonna toss people money before July one, that
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  Speaker 1: they didn't feel like it was worth it. That's why
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  Speaker 1: you've got a Bopentley. You've gotta select group of people
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna pay early. You ain't paying everybody because you
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  Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get out of that as
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  Speaker 1: a right now. But to me, it was more of
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  Speaker 1: a schools are desperate and you're seeing as from the
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  Speaker 1: smaller schools doing that. What you think about all of that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, other people, it's I tell my kids,
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  Speaker 2: this is you don't change who you are because of
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  Speaker 2: what other people are doing. Correct, And I think that
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  Speaker 2: you've seen a lot of schools go out and just
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  Speaker 2: spend massive bankroll over the past couple of years and
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  Speaker 2: it didn't produce the way that they envisioned it to do.
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  Speaker 2: And if we're being honest and we keep it abuck,
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  Speaker 2: like we all want every single top rated guy, we
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  Speaker 2: all want every single you know, every single recruiting win.
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  Speaker 2: You only can take so many people. And so you
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  Speaker 2: know this this new staff led by Jim Nagy is
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  Speaker 2: it is one that is going to do things from
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  Speaker 2: a from a perspective of this is his first time through.
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  Speaker 2: He goes and he looks at some of these grades
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  Speaker 2: such as you know in the NFL, it is, hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's you know, we may see a guy you know,
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  Speaker 2: at the mid to late round one and we really
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  Speaker 2: really like him. But there's more, you know, more pressing
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  Speaker 2: need that we should maybe do where you look at
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  Speaker 2: your draft from a macro standpoint, you want to maybe
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  Speaker 2: back off of that pick and see if you can
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  Speaker 2: get guys similar to that, because you know, in football,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like basketball to where like one guy comes
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  Speaker 2: in and can you pretty much change the franchise. You're
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  Speaker 2: going to need a lot of different positions, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that some of these losses that we're seeing are
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  Speaker 2: in positions that we can afford them. You know, like
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: let's just go from the most recent with Jake Beverheart.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we'll put We'll get into him deeper here in
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  Speaker 2: a few minutes, but right now, the safety room looks
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  Speaker 2: pretty good, and your path to play is quite difficult
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  Speaker 2: at this point. Brandon Hall has done a great job.
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  Speaker 2: You know a lot of people don't even bring up Hardy,
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: but you know, you have Boganowski, you have powers. You
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  Speaker 2: still have Robert Spiars Jennings, you still have Peyton Bowen,
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  Speaker 2: and then you have a Murray Robinson and Marcus Wimberley
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  Speaker 2: in there too. And so if there's a space where
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  Speaker 2: you can maybe take in l and maybe not bump
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  Speaker 2: up and come out of what you want in what
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  Speaker 2: you're slotted to do, it's there where the places that
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  Speaker 2: we have, you know, really taken it to where we
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  Speaker 2: wanted to is you know, on the offensive line. You
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  Speaker 2: know with Deacon Schmidt, Deacon Schmidt was a guy that
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  Speaker 2: we really really wanted. So you know, when those when
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  Speaker 2: those requests went a certain way. We met them quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: same place, you know, on the defensive line. The guys
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  Speaker 2: that we really you know, thought that we were in on.
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  Speaker 2: It was the same thing with their I think, Jay,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'll pass it to you. The other point
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  Speaker 2: is there's a lot of guys who are going to
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  Speaker 2: come in and want to make you know, the top
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  Speaker 2: capability of their nil and money, you know, from now
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  Speaker 2: the collective slash university. And I'll just point out one
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  Speaker 2: guy who, you know, a defensive lineman, Taj Overton. Taj Overton.
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  Speaker 2: It was a situation where he kind of got quiet
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  Speaker 2: over you know, maybe mars Ish things started quieting down.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a lot of buzz. There wasn't a lot
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  Speaker 2: of talk out there, and that guy was not going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to come in and really see the
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  Speaker 2: field anytime soon. He had a lot in front of him.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think that he is rated or envisioned
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  Speaker 2: as a guy who's going to come in, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at the around the two hundred and eighty pound mark
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  Speaker 2: and make it a make an immedia impact and get
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  Speaker 2: the you know that high four star money, come in
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  Speaker 2: and do some production on the field. It was when
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  Speaker 2: we were going to see itself with another David's oone
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  Speaker 2: situation where you have a high rate for CRUW who
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  Speaker 2: doesn't get a lot of field time because the guy's
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  Speaker 2: out in front of them, and then you have to
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  Speaker 2: have that awkward conversation, you know, after year one on
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  Speaker 2: bumping down the NIL money. So you've got so much
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  Speaker 2: money that you can spend, and if you think that
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  Speaker 2: a guy is not going to come in and really
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  Speaker 2: put it up right from the get, you know that
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  Speaker 2: you don't bend on what you're what you're willing to do.
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  Speaker 2: In Oklahoma State, we all heard Mike Gundy this past week.
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  Speaker 2: Mike decided that Nil was not going away apparently, So
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  Speaker 2: congratulations for Mike for coming around to Nil sticking around finally.
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  Speaker 2: But you know the university, they they up their offer
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  Speaker 2: for him, and they went after him, and they made
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  Speaker 2: him a good pitch. And so I think that it's
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  Speaker 2: not just playing it simple. That recruit comes and says, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I want this amount of money, and and OU says
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  Speaker 2: can we afford it? Cannot afford it. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: that goes into it, and what the staff doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to do is we don't want. We don't want to
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  Speaker 2: get to an emergency or get to a spot to
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  Speaker 2: where we need to spend some money. We already spent
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  Speaker 2: it all. And I think that it is a more
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  Speaker 2: I guess you'd say cautious point of action for this
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  Speaker 2: team and uh for this for this recruiting, uh, this
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  Speaker 2: recruiting staff at this point, and uh, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: won't see really right now if if it if it's good,
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  Speaker 2: or if it's bad. But I do think that the
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  Speaker 2: recruiting trail, you know, there's a lot of negative recruiting too.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that this team comes out and plays
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  Speaker 2: how you and I both think that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: play this year, all of a sudden, some of these
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  Speaker 2: conversations are gonna go a little bit different.
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  Speaker 1: That's where you'll see an adjustment to go with that.
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  Speaker 1: First off, remember Naggi's only been here so many months.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of refreshing and everything. I'm gonna address
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  Speaker 1: the video that Naggi had because we talked about it
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  Speaker 1: on here last show, So I decided to go back
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  Speaker 1: and watch the actual Triple Option show that that that
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  Speaker 1: show which is with mark Ingram, rob Stone as well
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  Speaker 1: as Urban Meyer. A lot of people didn't watch it,
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  Speaker 1: like watch the entire thing. Now, that quote comes from
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  Speaker 1: a question that was specifically asked by urban Meyer about value,
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  Speaker 1: because they were talking about the salary cap and how
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  Speaker 1: the cap exist and what do you do because you
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: can't pay a whole bunch of people on that cap,
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  Speaker 1: because you got to have space to also pay the
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  Speaker 1: current players on your roster, especially the good ones. Like
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned, retention is just an important as acquisition, and
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  Speaker 1: Naggi talked about that, and that's where it came from.
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  Speaker 1: It was all from a salary cap conversation about current
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  Speaker 1: players and getting new players and how do you find value.
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  Speaker 1: I'll explain that in a second. But from there though, Coop,
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  Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, you gotta have the money to
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  Speaker 1: be able to do stuff. This is why I don't
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  Speaker 1: take any and no shade to any of you here
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  Speaker 1: in the conversation. I love you all a lot, right,
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  Speaker 1: I love you all. Don't remind you this real quick, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: Oh you might thank you so much for the ten bucks.
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  Speaker 1: We greatly appreciate it. Ten dollars stories. That's champonship. Jay
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  Speaker 1: is promising this year Oka ten wins. I'm here for
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  Speaker 1: ten wins as well. It's in my brain. A few
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  Speaker 1: people have said that, and Green Arrow pointed this out
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  Speaker 1: that Texas. What's funny is Texas recruiting stategy is coming
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  Speaker 1: to sound pretty much exactly what Naggie is saying, because
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  Speaker 1: it is literally the on War Richardson post that Orange
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  Speaker 1: Bloods did is that Texas said they're not gonna pay
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  Speaker 1: these high school kids all this money they're gonna do focus.
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  Speaker 2: On yeahur hours after hours, everybody started blowing up Naggie.
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  Speaker 1: For his quote exactly. They basically said, hey man, these
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  Speaker 1: kids asked for ridiculous money. That's why Texas taking them
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  Speaker 1: are winning people from them. And Robert to kind of
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: point out your statement, let me remind you guys this
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  Speaker 1: You ready, y'all ain't the only fan base feel like
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  Speaker 1: y'all suck at recruiting. You know who things they suck
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  Speaker 1: at recruiting. Coupe Texas, Texas things they suck at recruiting.
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  Speaker 1: Look at this, Texas fans are losing their minds saying
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  Speaker 1: that they suck at recruiting and they don't understand how
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  Speaker 1: they went to the playoffs back to back years and
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  Speaker 1: for some reason, recruits don't want to go to their school. People.
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  Speaker 1: Explain that to me. Explain to me. Look at these
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  Speaker 1: message board posts. Man, they are losing their minds about
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they can't get a recruit to commit
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  Speaker 1: to them because and they went to the playoffs. They're
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: getting outbitted by Baylor guys. This is why I'm pointing
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  Speaker 1: this out to y'all for this reason. It's not happening
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  Speaker 1: to just us. This is happening around college football. Smaller
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  Speaker 1: schools are coming in and throwing the largest amount they
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: can because they're trying to get that parody game going.
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's just not gonna play it. We have a different strategy.
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  Speaker 1: One of our biggest strategies is we're just gonna go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and find not only someone there that's probably potentially
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  Speaker 1: better fit for us, or at least a comparable fit,
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  Speaker 1: or we're just gonna go to the portal. Kids are
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: gonna bounce after a year at some of these schools
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: when they're gonna be like, you know what, We're gonna
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: slash your pay because you just didn't produce the way
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: we needed you to, so we don't cut you pay,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be like, you know what, We'll circle
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: back to you. We ain't gonna pay you what you
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: were making before. We'll pay you a fraction of it
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: because we actually liked you and we liked your tape.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of that, a lot of that,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I promise you that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: And and Jay, let me let me just ask you
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: a rhetorical question.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Here, fair rhetorical how much Oregon?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Oregon has some money? Right? Oregon has money? Right? Okay,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: let's see here. You've got Notre Dame who is you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: they're number four in the rankings right now. And yes,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: kJ Arsenal, you are right, my buddy. We're talk talk
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: a little soccer here half second. But but you've got
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: teams like Florida State. They got a lot of money
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: out there. Florida Miami in twelve to thirteen. Texas right
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: now is at ranked number fifteen. There is a lot
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: of money available at Texas ole miss. We've seen them, Hey, hey, hey,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: SMU with all of the money that SMU has and
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: all these wins that they've had recently, there are four
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: slots ahead of us. So it is we brought it
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: up the last the last show is you've got guys
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like with Georgia Tech pulling the big five star offensive
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: lineman last year, got the big wide receiver going to Syracuse.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I can promise you this I taught you know, I
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: work nationwide. I have a lot of people that are
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: up in New York and there's not a lot of
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: ball knowledge or college football excitement up there at all.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: So some of these guys, and it's not I will
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: say this, it's now a deal that you have to
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: go out and you get yourself an agent. You've got
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to get an agent. You've got to get somebody who's
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: going to go out there and have these conversations. A
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: lot of these Why is the decisions aren't being made
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: by the kids. They're saying, hey, listen, you signed with me, junior,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: and we will take care of everything. You just go
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: out and produce and we'll do everything for you. Right,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: You don't see a lot. I mean, there's the here
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and there with a guy like a Felix Ojo who
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: is out in the middle of every single conversation socially possible.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: But most of these guys, there's a lot less out there.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It's not so much about it's not so much about
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, like even look at Deuce Jeralds. Deuce Jeralds
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: is filming YouTube videos of him doing campus visits on
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: these things, and now he is pretty quiet. So all
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of these guys like David Stone, when during his recruitment,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: always out there, always talking, always kind of you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: getting the the what was David Stone was supposed to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: go to what was it? A school up north that
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: just absolutely blows I mean, Michigan State, Michigan State thought
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: that that he was going to be going up there.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: He rolled up the Miami crowd, he rolled up the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: O U crowd, and he got all these things going on.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: It's not you don't see a lot of that anymore.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And we follow a lot of these guys quite a bit.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So what happens is you got schools like Syrakese, you
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: got schools like Houston. Now you know today with the
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: wide receiver, you got a lot of the schools who say,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: we need to make a big splash here because our
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: name has to be mentioned at some point in all
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: this stuff to show that we belong in here too,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: because there's still the whole super Conference thing going on too.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Outside of the NIL piece.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of components that's coming through.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: But The other piece to add to that, truly is
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: that a lot of schools, a lot of the bigger schools,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: are getting wise to this. They're like, no, we're not
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: we have And this is what Naggie said when he
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: was on the Triple Option podcast. He basically as a
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Cliffs knows for you all, is that they asked him
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: about value because you've got a salary, you got a revenue,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you know, redshare cap, but salary cap, and you can't spend.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You're not supposed to go over what are you doing?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: He's like, you know, yeah, what we do. And this
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: is a question that was actually in the comment section,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So let me answer this for you as well. You're
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: asking about I'm not sure who the name was, I'll
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: get there in a second, but you're asking about the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: coaches butting heads ah h care Jarson jarsonal eight, Yes,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: wondering if there's headbutting at the top when it comes
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to the recruits and no, Naggie addressed that part and
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: this this Pobb came out July beginning of this month,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and he addressed that he said, no, he listens to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the coaches. He doesn't force players down their throat, but
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: what they did was to simplify things for everybody is
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: they created a color coded system as far as value go.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: So basically, instead of the coaches having to sit there
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and watch film and figure out these recruits, we've got
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: eight dudes on staff that watch film NonStop, that are
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: trained and have experience doing this, and so they do
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that and then they rank them based upon what they think.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: The value upset player truly is if it's a five
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: star and they feel like they're five star status. Akaj
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Crill in which we're seeing predictions going for Oklahoma, sounds
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like he's mostly he's a very heavy Oklahoma Lean. We'll
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: wait and see, but he's at the top of the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: list of someone they're gonna pay. So so if and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: or when he commits and we give him a bunch
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of money, do not be surprised because he's won. Bo
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Bentley was high on that list, hence why he's committed
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and we paid him. So they did the color coding
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: thing with the coaches and so now they understand, Okay,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: do you want to spend that much on to do
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: because the other thing, and this is why I keep
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: emphasizing this to a lot of people where we're missing
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the force for the trees. You gotta pay your current
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: players too. So when Reggie Powers shows out, when Michael
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Bobanowski shows out, when Isaiah Satanna or a coop Josiah
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Martin and Zion Currenty shows out at wide Receiver, guess
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. You gotta pay if you want to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: keep them, because then of course the opportunity to leave
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and go get make more money is there. That's where
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you gotta balance that out. Is a balance I'm not saying,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and they're not gonna pay. And that's even what even
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: with like Jake Rosenberg was jumping in the comments on
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Folks was saying that nag he wasn't saying he's not
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: gonna spend on top players, but he's got to figure
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it out because he's got to also retain the current roster.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: It's just like in the NFL. But the big difference,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and Naggie mentioned this on the show as well, is
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that you only got so many years with these kids.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So you're balancing three, four years maybe five with some
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: kids with bringing in the new ones and balancing that number. Man,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it's gonna get It's a very interesting setup. It's more
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of a challenge to figure out how because this is new.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You remember, this is brand new for everybody, and so
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you've got certain schools like a Texas Tech throwing these
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: big bags around and it's cool and all, but go
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: look the rest of the players they have. They have one,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: two Tier one players, and then they just fill it
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: up with everything else and then they figure it out
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and go from there. What they're trying to do is
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: drum up attention. If they drum up enough tension to
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: their name, guess what happens. Maybe they can get themselves
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: some more recruits. The good thing for Oklahoma is we
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: already got that. Now, we just got to decide what
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: players we want to go deep into. And so if
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: this player does populate over the we get a top
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: ten or something over the next twenty four hours from somebody,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: y'all gonna have a reason to get excited because it'll
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: be a player that is a top one hundred player
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that y'all been hoping for. Let's put it that way.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: And I saw somebody make a comment and it was
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: really really an intelligent comment after the Everheart commitment yesterday
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that didn't go the Sooner's way, and he said remind it,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: remind me of yes, remind me again why we're freaking
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: out over the two hundred and sixty seventh player in
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the recruiting rankings. And I think that like you got
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: to step back because when when you when you hear
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: things like we're in the top for this guy, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: this guy could have been a silent commitment because I
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: fully believe that Everhart gave the coaches the nod at
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: one point, and so it feels like it when you
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: have situations like this, there's a lot of things. I
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: don't think Everhart was necessarily an il pece And if
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: you guys don't know, his dad recently passed away, he
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: played there, and there is there is a component of
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that in that decision. You saw him crying, You saw
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: him if you read a lot of the notes on
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: like how he what he said about the OU staff,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: like it was almost like he was apologizing to the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: OU staff. And I'm just going to say, if, if,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: if I if we got a guy and he sat
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: there on the you know, during his commitment day and
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: apologized to hell, let's just say Miami and the Miami
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: staff over and over and over again. I don't know
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: how comfortable I feel in that scenario, but you understand
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it because of the heartstream portion of it. But I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: go back to this, Jay, is you've got what do
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: you say, a healthy twenty million dollar budget, right, a
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: healthy twenty million dollar budget for a for a recruiting class,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and you've got how many players are their own rosters now?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Two hundred five ten, one hundred and five, one hundred
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: and five total players. So you've got to divide all
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that money up and then hope to God that you're
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: paying the right people the right amount of money. Because
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you watch in the NFL and a quarterback will have
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty four percent of cap space. You
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: still need five dudes to protect his ass. You still
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: need three or four dudes to throw the ball to,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: You need somebody to tote the rock. And that's on offense, right.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: It even got the defense right to add today.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Like taking consideration that you know, we've got a lot
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: of young players right now too, and a lot of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: young players that you really like that we're gonna have
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to you know, we're gonna have to pay. And that's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: where that's where your struggle comes in.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And it's nothing like I said, I'm not saying that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: we're not and there are some struggles here and there,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and that that we need to improve some things. That's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: not what We're not just disputing a lot of that,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: but we're trying to add some additional context for you
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: guys to understand what you have to do if you're
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: gonna survive this game. Because remember, NIL is also going
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to be a component. Now, if the NCAA would stop,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: well not the NCAAA, the College Sports Commission, the CSC,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: if they would stop being stupid and denying in IL deals,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: basically every anything is coming from a collective, they're basically
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: denying it, which is dumb because there's there's a great
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: argument that a lawyer just made. Then this transitions perfectly
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: into you know where things are gonna get very very
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: squirrely over the next few months. Basically this here you go, coop.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: This lawyer pointed that out, and I thought it was
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: basically genius. The collectives, they have agreed that the collectives
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: are allowed to basically help facilitate deals for the players
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: when it comes to NIL, which at that point makes
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the collective a legitimate business entity that in turn can
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: go into an NIL deal that is a fair market
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: value number to help these kids facilitate deals with bigger
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: NIL deals down the line. This commission and the accounting
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: firm that's a part of this. With this clearing house crap,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: they're basically denying two thousand dollars NIO deals for them
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: to do marketing stuff, social media posts and all of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: this stuff, which is basically them drumming up more business
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: for themselves or the collectives to be able to help
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: facilitate more stuff for players. That doesn't make any sense.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: You're just basically like cutting off your nose to spite
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: your face in this situation. This is where things are
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: getting ridiculous, and it's gonna become a pain in all
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: of our tush trying to figure out how it's gonna work.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I'm annoyed by it. I'm annoyed by it because all
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it does is slow up the process of doing these
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: quote unquote innel deals. That's why you see it. Like
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, they didn't do a nil deal. Their deal
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: was a rev share deal. They are going to give
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: these players the revenue share cut piece of the pie.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: And if you really think about it, if they're gonna
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: allot five percent of it to this player. What does
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that mean for the other players on the roster. They're
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: gonna start playing a whole bunch of freshmen. I know
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: none of y'all want us to play a whole bunch
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: of freshmen. We did that last year. What happened. They
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: usually aren't at the physical ability to play at the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: level y'all want them to. Y'all gonna be mad. I'm saying,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: y'all is y'all in the comment session, y'all gonna be mad.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be mad because I understand y'all gonna
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: be mad, Like, why are we playing these dudes? We
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: need to get some We need to get some veterans
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in there. Well, that's what I'm Oklahoma's doing right now.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: This staff is they like their picks, they like the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: players that they've recruited, and we started to up players
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: pay and it looks really good going forward.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Like it does.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: It looks and feels good. Like every parent I've talked
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to that's been at a practice and have watched it
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and watched film, they're like, oh, this is night and
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: day compared to what we saw last year. Last year,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: they were telling me, hey man, I'm worried about this
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and worried about that. We got to see if it
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: works out. Okay, cool, now I talk to y'all about it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I told y'all our hopes was this, this and this
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: working for us, and those things didn't work out for us.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: But now these parents are like, oh no, it's like
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: night and day. I watched the film of last year
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: what we were supposed to do. Oh, this looks completely different.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Like they're actually doing the stuff that they were supposed
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to do, and the playbook is dramatically different. Believe your boy.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Everybody is saying that. Everybody is. The parents are saying ay.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: And the parents that we have are ones that actually
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: watch film and actually coach on the side too, they're like, oh,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: believe me when I say this, you are to like
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: what you see out of this team. So we'll see
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: what happens.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Though, And I'll cap it off with one other thing
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: that Jay is my grandfather, Uh, greatest man I've ever known,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a person that I absolutely love. One of his biggest
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: things is, you know what, if you always tell the truth,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: you never have to remember what you said and what's
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: going to happen in all these conversations with all these
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: high school recruits. Is all these universities are gonna be
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: talking all this mess, all these all these promises, all
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: these lofty pieces, and then some of these guys are
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: gonna go elsewhere and they're going to see, well, well, damn,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: it didn't happen like they said it was going to happen.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Who do you think is the first university that they're
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: going to think about? Because I know that Josiah Martin
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: is one of the guys that we had a conversation with,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: we had a good cup of coffee with, and he
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: decided to go elsewhere. He plays a year and then
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: he says, come on back to you, and I think
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: he's a guy that nobody talks about. Now. Is he
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: going to be ceedee lamb? I don't really think so.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: But could he be a guy who catches passes on
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the regular? Could he be a clutch guy? Could he
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: be somebody that every single time that he catches a pass,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, damn, I forgot we had him. Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I think that that's the type of guy that you're
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: gonna want. Is somebody who says, you know what truth
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: does mean something to me? And if you have a
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: good relationship with these kids, and you just own up
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: and be what you say you're going to be, and
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: those guys start hitting the transfer portal. You have a
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: guy who comes in the star rating. Don't mean a
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: damn thing once you hit campus all nothing at all.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: And you know said that too, said that too, just
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you real quick. Somebody just said that recently. Michael Fassousi
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: just said that literally in an interview a couple of days.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Ago, exactly exactly. And so you got a guy like
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Michael Foussi. He has shown up on campus, and what
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: has he done. He has pushed, pushed, pushed every single
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: offensive line him and that is in the same room
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: with him. He has done what he is supposed to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: be doing. And so we've had guys, and I don't
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: want to throw dudes under the under the bus. We
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: had a very very very borderline five star offensive lineman
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: out of the state of Oklahoma here recently come onto
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the team. And we waited one year, we waited, two years,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: we waited three years. Nothing happened. Dude bounced and never
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: played a meaningful down, never gave us meaningful stabs. And
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: so you're going, you got that's the thing is is.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Now that you've got the money tied to it, it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: no longer well he's just a kid, leave him alone.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: He's just a kid. Now you get the money tied
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to it, every single one of us are going to go,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: why are we paying that guy money? Like why? Hold on? Why? Why?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Why did we give him that much money? How much
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: money do we give jack Sonrnle because we all feel
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: good about saying it when it's that way, or when
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: you got the guys who come out and produce and
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they're like, hey, hitting the
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: transferport autie and hold on, why can we not pay
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: him money? I would rather be in a spot to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: where we have money to bump a guy up, then
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: go to a spot to where we got to go
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: and deplete the depth in order to keep somebody because
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're threatening to leave because we don't
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: have enough money because we gave it to two other
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: guys who haven't done anything on the field. So there
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: is a long game in play right now. And I
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: would rather say, let's do a let's come together on
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: an idea based off of measurables, based off of statistical analysis,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: you know, instead of going well, hey, these three sites
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: say that he's a four star, so that means he's
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: definitely going to be an NFL guy, right, I mean
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: you've seen several I mean, I got the list here.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I keep on bringing up. I just don't throw it
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: away right now because there's so many guys that when
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you saw you're like, holy hell, this guy is going
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: to be an absolute stud.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And that's the point here too, exactly. That's the point here,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Karris Jay. You made this right there. We've got five
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: stars now and through show Up's five stars, it's gonna
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: take time. This is also the thing I want you
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to remember too, And this is this only reason why
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: this keeps getting rehashes for this particular reason, because I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: know that I've learned more and more as I've done
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: this over the last since Revnables has been here. This
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: is when we've really dubbed deep into the Oklahoma content
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and talking something to point out it is July. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: don't know if y'all realize this, but a lot of
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the kids that we recruited over the last couple of
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: years and they committed around July, their rankings went up
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: by the time we got to October. Why because now
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: people are paying attention to them. Just put it to
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you this way. I have no beef with the ranking
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: system like most do. A lot of people do. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: know Cooper voiced his distern with his his issue with it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I've heard others do it as well, and I totally
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: get it. I get it like you should have skepticism
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: mainly because it's humans making decisions. I get that computers
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: aren't any better because they are taking input from humans,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: so not everybody. That's why you have three different systems,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: well now three, because they're all Everybody has a different
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: point of view on why they value certain things. One
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: thing I have noticed though, is and this is another
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: example that came from that Triple Option podcast mark Ingram.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all knew this. When mark Ingram
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: was a three star prospect, he finished as a four
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: star prospect when and he said this on the show
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: when Alabama offered him. His status of stars went up
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: after Alabama and the commitment, but he was a three
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: star initially. He's like, yeah, I was a three star
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: coming out because days like mark you were a three
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: star from correct when you were in high school? And
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: mark Ingram replied back, yeah, I was. And then when
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you know at the off from Alabama and commit there,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: then I moved. That's when I urged my fourth start.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I say that because a lot of these evaluators too
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: it some of these sites. They look at the people
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that's evaluating the talent. If there's a dude that's known
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: for putting people into the pros, dudes that's known for
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: developing players like I mean, Todd Bates has a reputation,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: hence why so many jobs have come up for him,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: people try to get them. Bill beaton Bow has been
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: tried to people try to take him numerous times as well. Heck,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: even to Marco Murray. You've seen so many these coaches
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: people try to prime away. Those evaluators respect what they're
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: saying too. They're like, oh, okay, you offered them. There's
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the reason why you offer them.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Granted, not all players will move up quickly, because I
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: mean you can look at like the Gendro brothers. They've
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: got offers from just about all the large gauntlet of schools,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: but they have not moved up in the rankings. S Het.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: But again, it's July, give it some time. He was
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a three star when we offered him. He commits in August,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: he's flying up the charts into four and he becomes
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a five star plus at the end. We haven't seen
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: him break out yet because he's been injured, but he
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: will at some point. Jackson Arnold was the same. He
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: was in the four stars before he committee committed early
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, and then as he camped more, he flew
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: into five star plus. That You'll see that with players
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: quite often. Sometimes it's just you gotta wait until the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: evaluators see all these schools want this kid? Why does
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: all these schools want this kid? And sometimes they'll they'll
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: correct it. Sometimes they like, now, we'll leave it as
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And I would say that my beef with recruiting system
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: is an actual beef. It just it is an imperfect
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: system that's built off of you look at a lot
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of the time, you got guys who maybe show out
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: as a freshman or sophomore in high school and you
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: start going that guy's a future five star guy. He
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: is a future five star guy. We all don't like
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: the college football has rankings week one because something's always
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: tossed by week three.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I hate them so much.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: When you get some of these guys who are projected
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: as five stars as a sophomore. And I don't want
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: to get crude, but my uncle said, hey, until something drops,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: you ain't a man. And I'm just saying, you get
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: to a spots where guys were just massive. My little
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: brother not a massive athlete. Not he had trouble with
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: education portion of things too, But you know we were
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: we were in Bartlesville alum twenty five years boom right,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: But we get our asses kicked day in and day
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: out when we come up and play Jinks Broken Arrow,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: you know, Owasso. None of those things change. But as
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: a freshman, my little brother came to Jinks for the preseason,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of with the rotation with the three teams.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Dude had three sacks in about twelve snaps and guess what.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: We got calls and said miss ms Cooper, what do
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: you guys? Where are you working now? From schools up
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: here in Tulsa want to see and ajkj I one
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: hundred percent believe in that one too. But if he
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: would have been able to stay in stay out of
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: trouble and stay in school like that is a progression
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: where he would have probably gotten to his junior year,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and it would have been a downhill spike too, because
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: he didn't care for the game. He was just bigger
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and more athletic than kids his age at that moment.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: And so you get guys who with the recruiting systems
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: who are a high five star, you know, going into
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: their junior year and by their senior year. What do
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: you do as a recruiting system do you drop the
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: dude four hundred places and go we were wrong. No,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: you move guys up eventually, and maybe they're some sliding
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: but sometimes those are the things that happen too. Guys
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: also completely play. And et was the one where I
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: was going with this, okj Arsenal, I appreciate man Elijah
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Thomas plays. Yes, yes, yes, limit it is. We had
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: to go. We had to go get real beer up
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: in Kane. But I'll say this is with Elijah Thomas.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: This is a guy who plays in Chakota, Oklahoma. Right,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: not a lot of people are going to know who
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: he was. But if dude played in Duncanville, Hell, the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: guy played at Jenks he is It's different and and
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I hate to bring it over this way. Sometimes dudes
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: just get ranked because of weird ass situations. There is
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a fella that's going to be starting for a team
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: in our conference this year. Never threw for twenty six
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: hundred yards in a single season. His highest season was
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: his freshman season, like twenty five hundred yards. Because of
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: his name, he was number one recruiting in everything. His
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: final year, final game as a as a college as
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: a high school player, he went eight for twenty one
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: with under one hundred yards passing in two picks. Now,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: can you tell me how in the hell somebody can
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: say that is a five star recruit? Can he be
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: something different at this point? Sure, but that just shows
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: you that sometimes the ranking systems they there's something in
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: the mind and once it's there, it's hard to get
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: it out because there's a lot of craw fishing that
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: needs to happen at that point.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Courses, Yeah, Jay, you're right, it's weird. Like I said,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the evaluators have their own biases. If they look at
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and certain things, they traits they go after, and that's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: what they do. Our evaluators are front office staff that
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: will be doing the exact same thing, have their biases.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: The staff has their biases and all of that. Let
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: them figure out what they're gonna do. And I say
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that because I would like ow to at least give this.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Can we can we get it through the year? Can
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: we get of the season? Can get through the recruit
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: because remember, I mean we've got some good players. I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: mean I think Danny odom And what it sounds like
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: is Daniel Odum is not going anywhere, Like he's like, no,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: he's locked in with Emmitt Jones and it's like, oh,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: we thought that he was only gonna be there for Jadeen.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: They have a great relationship, but he really likes ej
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: So you've got him sticking around if you get some war.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Now let's talk about that. This is probably the segment
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: where we need to transition into it. But I want
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: to say one thing though, and we're going to talk
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: about the players that are left on the board. Trojan
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: fight jumps In says, my experience is when a guy
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: says we aren't going to get into a bidding war
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: for a five star, really means you don't have the money.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Said five stars, asking for that is always a possibility, yes,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: but that is not always the situation. And I can
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: tell you that from knowing people that I've seen five
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: stars go to other schools and take less money because
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the school decided that they did not want to take them,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: say nope, you're not a take for us. Five star rate,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: five star rate to guy and they just said, nah,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you're not a take for us. And in a lot
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: of those situations, it's there's other components you look at, like,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: y'all don't want knuckleheads, but granted, you know Trojan and fight,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: no shade to you. But at the same time, y'all
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: did take Barr Alexander and he's a pan of youtse
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: toush the entire time. So, y'all, you typically don't want
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a pain, but you learn it. Once you get it,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, I see why this situation turned out
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: the way it turned out. You're like, yeah, we shouldn't
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: have gotten in a bed with this. You was hoping
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: for the best. It didn't work out. It didn't work out.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: We've done it. Oklahoma's other too, a lot of other
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: schools have done it. They're like, yeah, it just didn't
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: work out the way I thought it's gonna work out, unfortunately,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: So you give it a try, you throw a flyre,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and you go the way you go and that's just
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: what it is. But in some situations you run into
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that where it's not that. It's not always a pay thing.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's say, yeah, we're gonna move on now. I
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: do agree in some case it is paid, but coop
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: off that dead horse of beating it, because I know
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: we've been talking like crazy about and explaining to everybody,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and it's an explaining, Lucia, you explaining to do. We're
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: trying to do less explaining here. But no, we've got
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: to talk about what we've got left on the board
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: before we truly wrap up, and then we're gonna talk,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: you know, Superman, because I'm wide awake. Told you I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: am wired from no sleep and I'm going to crash
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: so hard tonight. Oh my god, I'm sleep so hard tonight,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: like it's gonna be Banana. I don't know, don't wake
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: up in the morning's gonna be sleep so hard. But anyway,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: all right, the Jacob Eberhart situation we talked about, that
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: was a he's gonna go honor his father where his
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: father's number and play at his Alma modum sucks. That
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: was the last minute decision. He even basically said it
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: in the interview of you know, after weirdly way and
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Getty decided to go the other way. Sucks, hurt, sucks.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I love Jacob's film. I was high on his film.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: He was one that I really liked. But I'm not
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: concerned about the safety room because Brandon Hall is there.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: He has been doing great. We got the Jan Joe brothers,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: and I think we've got a couple others that we're
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: gonna look at here. But I think for us right now,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the big question is because the biggest l's we've taken,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Zach Turner, just committed to SMU, which is fascinating because
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna Miami. Miami was gonna pay
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: him the most, is what I've been told, and SMU
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: somehow swooped didn't won it fascinating Who was at who
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: was at Miles the wide receiver that you had interviewed,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: He ended up getting yanked up by the same school
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: because of you know, they decided to offer up a
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: lot of money to get some of these kids. You know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: SMU is trying to find a way to bid in
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the Dallas Dickerson situation. Of course, that didn't work out
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: like we would have wanted. H ALZR. Miles, that's his name.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Kid's good. I really like him a lot. And Jaydon
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Pettitt who went to Wisconsin. So question is cool, who
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: are you looking at to replace him? Tell you Gross
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Diving Gross. Now, granted, diving Gross is a multi athlete guy.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: He does he is a top what Oh yeah, he's
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: top one hundred easily. Lord he's good.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: That boy good.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: We're we're we're in a very this one, I can
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: say from confirmed from it's funny. I actually had somebody
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: hit me up that covers one of the teams that
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: were battling for him with and they were like, hey, man, congrats,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I've actually heard that. I think I got him. He
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: is my word that.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: According to ON three and H again going back to
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the rating systems on the different places, sometimes you're on
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a rivals board and everybody says Rivals hates O you,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and sometimes you're on the on three board that says
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: ON three hates ou. ESPN. I think they've always pretty
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: much hated OU. It seems like the only time they
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: have somebody rated higher than the other are the guys
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: that like, we're not super excited about but.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: They loved him. They love they love that's a rare one,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: but you're right.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: But David Gross is the number six receiver in this class.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: And he is a dude who a lot of people
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: are throwing around, you know, some some some really interesting
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: names as far as the comps go. And you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: so you look in front of him, You've got Booby Feaster,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: who as at one point a lot of people thought
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: was potentially the number one receiver in the whole entire class.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: But he is right in front of him, Calvin Russell,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: who is the five star kid who committed to Syracuse
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Chris Henry or Chris Henry Junior at a model day,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: committed to Ohio State, Ohio State getting five star receivers
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: just like uh, you know, hot hot, hot weather in July.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: And then like a tradition as old as the game itself,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and like what they're saying.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: And then you got C. D. Morgan, Uh, and that's
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: a dude who is uh that that's one that you
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: guys might want to watch out where he's an Alabama
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: kid committed to Alabama six four two twenty. And then
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Tristan Keys uh just committed to LSU two. So I mean,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: these guys are all I mean, very very high, highly
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: sought after guys. David Gross is a kid who his
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: family are OU fans. They've been OU fans for a
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: very long time, and again, until things are public, they
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: still can change one hundred percent. It's always going to
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: be that way. But as of right now, I think
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: that's your next commitment coming here, I would not I
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: would not be too surprised if it's very very soon.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: He is a dude who is going to going to
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: come in here and he is going to compete. He's
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I really really think that he is kind
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: of like the Elijah Thomas. That's the that's the receiver
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: that does really really well in this system that we're running.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: You don't want the five six and thirty seven pound dude.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: You definitely don't want the is he a tied end
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: or is he a wide receiver body type? But that
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: six to one round two hundred guys who can move,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: you know, with the ball in their hands prior to injury,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: you know, the last guy that's uh uh that that
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: you know we had come in and really just you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: really really do a lot from that body type. You know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Sterling Shepherd. A lot of people don't remember how good
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Sterling Shepherd is. Most of you guys probably do, but
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of people forget about him because his body
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: type was just it was phenomenal. He had. He had
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: an absolute, you know, great body control, great ability to
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: catch the ball in traffic. You know, he did not
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: hear footsteps. Those were things that made him great. And
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: and so you know, I'm very excited if you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: if people's that pulls the trigger and you know, does
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: commit to OU. I think that it's a lockdown situation.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: And you know, I don't want to steal any of the kids,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: any of the kids glory for what he's doing. But
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: there is a you know, for the same amount of
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: for the Jacob Eberhart situation. You know, OU is a
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: very very important thing to his family. And I saw
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: a comment that somebody said, you know, these kids are
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: all divas. Again, I very much want to let you
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: guys know that it is a very hard situation right
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: now to be a sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old kid
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and have the entire family basically coming to help you
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: out right, coming to help you out and to the middle, yes,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: because all of a sudden you have a potential before
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: you play a snap in college football, to offer a
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: wealth that your family has never experienced, and to help
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: out people up and down the family, and there's a
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: lot of pressure. There is a lot of pressure. We
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: saw a situation with that in the transfer portal season
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: earlier this year with one of our guys. And so
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: family is a very very big, big thing to him.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: His family are big, o you people. You're starting to
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: see a couple of the couple of the crystal balls
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: dropping for him too. So you know that will when
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: we get that. He didn't take a small bag. That's
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: not the case. He's not a diva, that's not the case.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: But he voiced his opinion, and his opinion was it
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: was going to be helped.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: No, you're right, and we that crystal ball came in.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Was that yesterday from the Josh mcchustan dropped one. You
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: also had the Spiegelman Spegelman Uh, he had just dropped
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: an article about the three way battle. And then and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: then Gross mentioned that Houston was in the mix because
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: they just got did a Houston visit. And he's like, nah, okay,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna win this one. Ohkame, I got this one.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: So so that's the case, I'm like, yeah, I think
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: that that's that that out again, I am also in
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the the the mind framed up. I just wait and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: see when it happens.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Because things happen. Yeah, I think things happen, and it ain't.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: It ain't always the kid's fault. A lot of the time.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure there. And just remember, I mean,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just gonna rewind when I was seventeen
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: years old. I was not I did not have years old.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: I was three or four years ago, but I just
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: turned twenty.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: But and although you were a baby.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna end it with something, so don't don't
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: take the mic right after I finished the sentence. But
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: you know, when you're seventeen, like I said, with all
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: these these pressures on you and of what can happen,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: and it's hard to say like, hey, listen, man, you
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: can really take care of you know, we can take
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: care of mom and pops. We can put you on
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: the right path, we can take care of your grandparents
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. If you go to Oklahoma and
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: then somebody comes and drop says, oh, hey, if you
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: take that money, we could all submit your you know,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: your uncle, your aunt. She's been having some issues with
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: her health, and you know, they they're their kids. You know,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: they got really bright futures and they just don't have
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: the money to do things. A lot of those conversations happen,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: and it's not malicious, it's not nefarious. It's sometimes it's
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: just real life. And it's hard for these kids at
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: seventeen to go, yeah, but what about when I'm thirty.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Right, that's always the one. So what happens when I'm
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: thirty years old? And it's like, oh, you know about that?
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not really talking about that component of but again,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: that's you know, you're one hundred percent right that they're
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: looking at they're missing the force for the trees. I
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: make that statement for that specific reason because that's really
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: what's happening. A lot of people are missing the force
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: for the trees. You're looking at right in front of you,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: not looking at the long term. Some players are starting
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: to recognize that others are not. They got pulling up
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: at the light button. New to the channel, subscribe rate review,
• 56:31
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• 56:40
  Speaker 1: of August, you guys will be pleasantly surprised at what
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's doing and you may actually have some smiles on
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: your face. And if another five star populates, like I'm
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: sensing could happen, if things are tracking properly, you're gonna
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: be like, where did this come from? And i'mber, like
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I told you, I just I don't want to take
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: away the kids thunder, but I've heard some things anyway.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: There are some things out there. But hey, I just
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: want to say, I did mention that I just turned
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: twenty last week. But James's birthday tomorrow is your birthday
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: and you're doing Lord's work out there sec media day,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: So guys hit up up in the chat say happy
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: birthday to Jay. I find it funny. My birthday is
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: July seventh, JP over with JP and Trav July eleventh,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: and then you the fourteenth. So if you got a
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: July birthday, hop in here too and let us know
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: about your birthday. But man, happy birthday and fun story time.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And then I want to I want to I want
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: to disagree with everything that you think about life after that.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: But last year, if you guys were on the watching
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: the show last year at this time, who did I
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I had? Man? I can Jake, I can't remember Jake's
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: last name. One of the Alabama guys I had him on,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: You were Jack Marling, Jake Marry, Yeah, you were. You
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: were gone traveling at that point too. So Jay and
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: my wife and my friends all scheme behind my back,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: scheme to get me out and get my irish on
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: as soon as the show was over, and they wanted
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: it to be a surprise. And if you want to
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: surprise me, it don't It don't take much. I am
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: a very very narrow focused person, but which is funny
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: because I can't stay on track when I'm talking. But
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: you know you can, you can. You can surprise me
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: pretty easily. So Jay tells me that he forgot to
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: renew the podcast uh database, the the streaming service that
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: we used, and that we had to cut the show
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: off at at an hour exactly, and if we did not,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: it was going to just shut off and it's gonna
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: be a bad experience and it could hurt the podcast,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: hurt our everything. And so Jake, with fifty nine minutes
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: like twenty six seconds, says, well, I got three things
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: to say about that. It was something to that extent,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: and I was panicking, panicking, panicking, panicking. I don't think
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: it was the first time that I ever rant it
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: by myself, but I was. I was so stressed out,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: and I remember at like forty eight seconds, I was like, hey,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Jake Man, I love you, Jay actually say, and I
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: kind of brought it up. I didn't know what else
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: to do. I had no lying, no way out of it,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: no way to polish that turn, and so I was like,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: you know, thanks for tuning in. Make sure you like
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: subscribe until next week. I'm out, and I had we
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: had a balance. And I still I still think about that,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: and I get like this stress tingles up my spine
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: because even though I know it wasn't true, it's still
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: it still stressed me out because I did not want
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: to bomb the show while you were out. So kudos
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: to you for hooking me up.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when the cole hit me up about that, I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, don't worry, I got something perfect. I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: know Coop's brain well enough to know a very good
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: way to stress them smoothly out where he's going to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: get off there in exactly an hour, so just give
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: me a minute. And she's like okay, okay, And then
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: when it went down, she messages She's like, lol, he
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: was freaking out. I was like, I do it.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I can, man, Man, I I can so bad my flight,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: my flights. I can say it'll take me twenty minutes
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: to get to the airport, get a couple of minutes
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: to get checked in, and all this stuff. I do
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: all of those things and not stress out a single bit.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: And you're gonna be an asteroid coming down a tornado
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: in the area. And I'm like, all right, guys, done,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: you don't run, just you know, just get there. We'll
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: get there. But man, messing up the podcast.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: So and that's the that's the great appreciation I have
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: that you have the love for like that. So Coop,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: thank you. That's fun. That's good stuff. Yeah, thank you
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: all for the birthday wishes. Yes, tomorrow your boy turns
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a ripe twenty two years old. So I'm feeling good,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: feeling spry and excited, even though, like I said, I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: am busted and exhausted. The board is big. I need
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: to do a full breakdown of all the players available.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Me and Coop will probably do that very soon. We're
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: gonna go through and look. Hopefully something good happens to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: where it makes it even easier to really dive into that.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: But anyway, Uh, let's talk about it.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Get his spoiler alert.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Spoiler alert if you have not seen the New Superman movie.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: As you all know, we're both Marvel nerds, we're both
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: DC nerds, we're both comic book nerds. That's the things
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: that we get into. To the point of Coop gets
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: into spats with Gerald mccor on X on a regular
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: basis about the movies, like on a regular basis, And
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: I see your kind of questions in the comments. We'll
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: address those here on in the end real soon. I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: got a few of these questions I see in here,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: like Robert, I see yours around juco players. Believe me,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: they're hunting Juco's. Uh, we're making attempts at some what
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: we are making attempts at Juco's, Like we're looking for
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: another kend Adobe. I'll put it to you that way.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Remember kend Adobe was a Juco player, So we are
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: looking at that. But we'll talk about that again in
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: just second. But Coop was in therd, you know, nerding out.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: He's been nerding out and he's been going off in
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: the social media is for like the last day and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: some change because he just did not like the movie.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: So Coop, I'm gonna let you open it up. What
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: was your beef with a James Gunn produced Superman.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, I will yes spoiler to everybody, So again,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: if you have not seen the movie yet, turn off.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I'll do my do my best. But I might be
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: doing you a favor by by talking to some of
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: this stuff. So you know, I'm not gonna lie when
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I hit and I go nerd out to YouTube. I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: typically I think that the conversations that you know, you
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: and I have off screen does not allow you know,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't. We don't watch podcasts to get
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: to get content because I mean, most of the stuff
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: that we know they know the same, same type of things,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: and you know, we're we're not We're not going to
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: be breaking news at any point or anything like that.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: So I you know, I I do support Gave and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Teddy a lot more during the season, just because I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: want to hear schemes. I want to hear breakdowns from
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: when it comes, you know, stuff like that. But most
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: of the time I watch Marvel stuff, comic book guys. Uh,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: you know, Cosmic under You know, there's a lot of
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: emergency awesome, nerd alert, yes, nerd alert right, and not
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: even just that, you know, they watched stuff like Stranger Things,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: et cetera. So you know, obviously, when James Gunn did
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Guardians of the Galaxy, I absolutely love Guardians and the Galaxy.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I thought it was terrific. I think that James Gunn
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: did a lot with Guardians of Galaxy that broke the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: paradigm around the superhero movies, kind of making a slapstick
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: group of guys, you know people, you know, a freaking
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: badass soundtrack. I mean, I would say that if you
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: pick movie soundtracks, you can go with you know, Forrest
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Gump is a great movie soundtrack. You know, most of
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: the you know, the Guardians movies had terrific soundtrack. I mean,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: I just download them and I just play them on
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: fourth of July that I know that everybody is gonna, yeah,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: everybody's gonna dig these songs. And so but a lot
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: of the reviews going into it were that the the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: CGI was was tough, not spectacular. That as as more
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: and more content came out around it, you had you
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: had Superman go John Wick and throw a desk in
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: front of a Lex Luthor and scream where's my puppy?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: And all I could think of was, you know, it's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: just an effing dog, you know, with from from from
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: you know, multiple people throughout the John Wick series, I
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: will say the good the good is I felt myself
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: that at the end of the movie, I feel like
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: the last fifteen to twenty minutes. Maybe not hate the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: movie in its entirety, but one of my brothers got
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: up and left right after the President got dropped by
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: hot girl and to go get another beer and just
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: didn't come back. My other brother noted off I felt myself,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: and I says, I'll disclaim it with this is when
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I'm watching movie with people, I almost feel like I'm
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: entertaining them, even though that you know, my friends and
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I I'm part of the cinema club, so you know,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: it's I stacked those free movie tickets for the big Dogs,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: you know, or for when I'm gonna go see the kids.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: So I feel like that. I feel like the movie
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: was so hard, set up so much in such short
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: amount of time that it felt like no character got
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: the appropriate amount of I don't know the appropriate amount
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: of attention that they needed. I thought in Black Adam
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: the Justice Society was pretty weak, and I thought this
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: one was even worse. I think I think mister Terrific
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: might have been one of my favorite characters in the movie.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: But I felt like I was watching Shaft a little
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: bit like he kind of felt a little Shafty.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Can you dig it?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Like? No, I just I would rather have Doug Shaft.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: But no, I like what David Cordy Sweat did with
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: the character. He owned the character, absolutely dominated the character.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: I just think he was shitty writing. And Okay, that's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: that's where all start.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: All right, it's complete opposite. Loved it. I loved it
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: because it felt like a comic book movie. Here's the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: thing that I feel like a lot of us have compared.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: And this is kind of, I think one of the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: bigger issues when it comes to a lot of these movies.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan has created a world that is not real, realistic.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan created the perfect trilogy of a comic book
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: that he knew had an ending that he could kill.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: This is to open up a whole universe. And this
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: is why I apprehate the way gun with with it
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: is because it reminded me of how he did Guardians
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Guardians was able to transcend multiple additional movies to keep
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: it going. Plus, this is the one thing that I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: appreciated most about the Superman movies that it's not an
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: origin story. So, like I said, spoiler, lord say the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: origin story. He's already been doing this for a while.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: He's existed for a while, he's been being around for
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: a while. So now we're not dealing with the situation
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: where we've got a dude that we're now learning about
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: him first showing up, going through school, going through small Villa,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. We ain't dealing with all
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: of that. He's he's walking in into action. And that
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: is the thing I appreciate the most about the way
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Gun did it. Now, granted it wasn't perfect. I give
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: it about a seven and a half or eight out
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: of ten. There's things I would have adjusted in it
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: or whatnot. When you get to the end of the movie,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: you understand the value of the dog in which I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: think that's gonna actually lead to something bigger and then
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be like, Oh, that's why y'all played it
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: this way, Go digress. It felt like a comic book.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: It didn't feel like a Christopher Nolan spinoff. That's how
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: I felt about Man of Steel. That's how I felt
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: about BBS right justin it felt like Snyder was trying
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: too hard to be like Nolan while at the same
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: time being like Snyder and full of action. That's where
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I was feeling like, there's too much of a disconnect,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: and it was very dry. This felt like it had
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: more personality. But I feel like this film, and this
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: is why I gave it a little bit more of grace.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: It's because I feel like this movie, this version this
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Superman is gonna be like how a lot of us
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: probably felt about Batman Begins, because I hated Batman Begins
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: when I first saw it. Then I watched The Dark Night,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: and then I went back and watch Batman Begins. I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this is actually pretty well done. This
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: is placed very well. I hated Batman Begins when it
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: first came out, but that's what it was. It took
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: me the next one. So he's playing similar to the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: way Marvel did with his first ten years of building
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: building building back reference. Now you see why this played
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: this way. You're like, oh, the big picture, so it's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of work. It's gonna be a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: bit too like, so I don't expect everybody to like
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: it like I did. That's what I saw out of it.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Now I'm searching for Easter eggs because I know something
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: else is gonna pop up in the next movie.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I would say this, there's too many parallels to really
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: really terrible, terrible terrible things, and I'll go in reverse order.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Then we can answer questions and wrap it up so
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: that you guys right, don't have to pay taxes on
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: this job.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we got to talk about a dings. It's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: some questions there.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, so I think, you know, obviously, I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: like million Acock, who's going to be playing Supergirl. I
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: think that when she comes crashing in at the end
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: and Crypto starts going crazy, it felt like in the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: movie Boondocks Saints, where Roco's drunk, druggy girlfriend came in
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: and from partying, and I saw that parallel. I think
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: the Pocket universe. I kept on expecting Jack Black to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: jump up from the Plasma river because it looked Minecraft.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Tell me, it didn't look very Minecraft. If you saw
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: the Kingsman Golden Circle where they put all the people
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: infected with the infected drugs into the stadium in little boxes.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: That kind of that's what I felt like in the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Little Pocket Universe. I felt that it also kind of
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: felt like in what was it the second Guardians movie,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: when oh goodness, gracious, his dad has got the little
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: platform and they're flying on the world. Egos World, Yeah,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: and Egos World. You know, so he likes the flying platforms.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: But I will say this, Like I said, I think
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: there was some geopolitical crap in there that I don't
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: know if it really added anything, because you know, there
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: was the there was that stuff making the president kind
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: of look a little bit like a psycho Albert Einstein, uh,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: you know. And I think that with his with James
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Gunn's history around that, I feel like he could easily
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: just maybe punted that one and somebody around him would
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: have done it. But here's the one thing that I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: will I will concede. We had Christopher Reeves, we had
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: a Superman before that. Christopher Reeves taught everybody what Superman was,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: and then you get stuff with Dean Kine and you know,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: in Lewis and Clark, you've had so many iterations of Superman,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: and to do it again that didn't maybe fit one
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: of those past ones. Because Jay, you just said it
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: about the Dark Knight. There were people ready to string
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: up Snyder, like you know after Batman versus Superman and
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: now people want you know, every thing back. Uh. It
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: just did not work out for Cavil to continue. That
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: was a new universe.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: He was the Superman.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: He was he was. Now I will say this, there
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: are now here's where the real nerd stuff happens here,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: right how Gardner, John John Stewart, Those are other iterations
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: of green Lantern, but the Guy Gardner iteration of that,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: it's it's spot on. It's absolutely freaking phenomenal.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Like he is a so disgusting, it is so disgusting.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: The haircut is the Mark Johnson Mark Davis look is
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the Mark Davis look. Just the Mark Davis look just
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: gets me redhead, ugly hair. How he needed was like yes,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: it was, oh my god.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: And you know again, I think I think the panther too.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: It is you need You don't need forty five year
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: olds to really be the leading charge for this movie.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: You need people like sixteen to twenty eight because this
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: is an you know, this is a universe. You're gonna
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: have over the next couple dacades and that, and so
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: then you saw in the preview of Kitty doing the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: selfies and I didn't realize I was Kitty in the preview,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: but you know, she's doing the selfies, and that kind
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: of leads to the rest of the movie as oh,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: that's how you know, right, But I loved the accountant
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: to where chicks taking a selfie and they hack into
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: her phone and and and you know, get the girl's picture.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: So like I I can respect that. I'm taking my
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: kids again here in a couple of days, we're gonna
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: go watch it at least, you know, to all kind
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: of feel different. I did feel like it. It felt
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: like it was like a long form documentary that came
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: from the free form channel. But maybe maybe second time
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: through it'll be better. But no, I I did. I
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: have ripped it, ripped it apart. I can't talk politics
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: on any social media due to my job, but I
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: can definitely blast blast stuff like that.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: No, no fair point, fair point. But and I get
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: your take, Like I said, I don't. I am in
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: the mindset of I'm waiting until the next set of
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: movies and how he brings them all together before I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: can really lose my mind on it. So that was fun.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: All Right, We'll take a few questions and then I'm
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: gonna let get him some rest and get it off
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: his system. Jonathan asked an interesting one. Yeah, you need
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: some rest. I need rest, but you need rest too.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: You had up, You're about going to food coming. How
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: much of this is nagging out alocate enough money for
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: high school recruits and then picking the highest bidder versus
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: recruiting staff not doing a good enough job at attracting talent.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's more so a staff agreement that some
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: of these players aren't worth their asking price. But at
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: the same time, like the Eberhart one, I think they
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: were willing to pay. That one was a heartstrings pool.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Can't do much about that. That was a family dynamic.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: That's like it at so can't that literally was last minute.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: You can't do much about that. But in some of
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: the other ones, I think it was a they agree
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: to something with the player things look good, player comes back, Hey,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I want to get more because this school's offering that,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: and they're probably like, okay, go to that school. Let
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: the school pay you that additional I do think that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of situations where schools are where players
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: are using us as a measuring stick of getting more money,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: and sometimes they're taking just a little bit more. But
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: then you start learning that some of these kids, some
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: people will take a little bit extra and they'll realize, yeah,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: I probably should have just went for the money that
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I was offered before, because this little extra is not
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: putting me in a better situation. That's my thought.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: And I'll combo my answer with one that Chuck has
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: kind of put in here a dual question. Why do
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: some of the content creators get, you know, get pretty
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: hyped about dudes when it feels like they're coming here.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: But then listen, there's a lot of stuff that Parker
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Thune knows. There's a lot of stuff that Josh mccut
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: uh you know over at two four seven that they know, uh,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these guys also get absolutely burned.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: If you know Josh mcchust, he can tell you the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: story about Jacob Phillips where he is sending everybody the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: linebacker wo ended up committed to LSU was in the bag.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Another guy and I don't even want to bring up
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: his name. Just for PTS David Hicks.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: We literally just said not to say like for real,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: like we we GOTTSD.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: We we got the number one defensive line going into
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: this year. So I think that my PTSD has been
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: over for a while, especially when he hasn't done anything.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: But these guys put their actual physical money. It's not
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: just like excitement so they can go hey Texas fans,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: screw you, we got him. Like it is. These guys
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: put money into their staff to go do these things
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: based off of hey, listen, this is going to happen. Right,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: this is going to happen. And I think that a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: lot of us get really really excited him. I think
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: it is a detraction if somebody's like, yeah, well he's
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: not that that good. You bring up Algira Miles. I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: still want Aldri Miles here. I absolutely want Algra Miles.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Because Algra Miles lists his pancakes, not his touchdown catches,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: not his receiving yards.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that got Koop's attention. This dude will
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: actually say the pancake.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: He he absolutely one. You know. I think that sometimes
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't make great content to be like you
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: can't go out and bash the kid. That's just not kosher,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: and anytime that that has happened, where you know, people
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: have made mistakes, and believe me, I know that there
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: is an instance where Parker, you know, showed his frustration
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: and he knows that was a mistake. There's times that
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: those things happen and it's just not good. So the
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: best way to do it, I think a lot of
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: the time is just human nature is just well, we
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: can get somebody else to Gabe Brunlow. Dandy another one.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Marvin Jones junior. Marvin Jones junior was Lincoln Riley being
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: here for two or three more weeks from being committed
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: to the Sooners at that point and he came back.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Dandy was another one. So there's a lot of times
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: where do you know, guys like those guys ourselves, we
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: hear these things and we know what's about to happen,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: and you're excited about it, and then something goes south
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: and you want to be able to be like this
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: effing sucks. It's just not great content.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, So thanks a bunch for that, Jonathan.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: And the question Robert asked about the junior college t
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: you go players, I know that we still have a
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: good relationship with some of the Kansas schools. I mean,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: we were looking at Josiah Jefferson and I believe that
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Utah was willing to offer him a lot more in
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: comparison to us, and we were just kind of like,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: we got like nine tight ends on roster, we have
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: to get rid of somebody. And I think they're actually again,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: I think they're actually really high on Trenday Washington, the
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: true freshmen that they're just like, I think we'll stick
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: to that one instead of adding another freshman and all
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: the others. You can't just they're gonna start cutting people.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Probably they're gonna start pushing people into the portal or
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: forcing some retirements at the end of the season. And
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I'm being honest, at that point you may actually hear
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Josiah Jefferson's name populate back up to just keep your
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: eyes open on that. But I do expect them to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: continue to look for another kend Adobe type, right, another
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: set of juco players that are really good. That could
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: be something. So we haven't abandoned it. It is something
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: we're looking at. Mike, what's going on? So the legends
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: he asked about a d I'm gonna be honest, with you.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: I don't expect us to hear nothing about ad until
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: next year. So based upon the actual presser or whatnot,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get his thirty So since Joe's gonna Joe,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Ce's gonna get his thirty years, which is in two years,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think that, Yeah, yeah, I don't expect them
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: to actually have anybody picked until the twenty seventh season
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: to start the twenty eighth season. That's it.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: And I think that these things can also change a
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: lot in the in the meantime, because I think where
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: you get excited about getting somebody in here, you know,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: the Sellman name gets thrown around. There's guys in other schools.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that are riding this new
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: wave of everything going on. You kind of need to
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: let the wave continue to roll because there's a lot
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: of changes that will continue to happen. And I promise
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: you this that Joe's he's probably going to have, you know,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: a role with this university as long as he wants to.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: But I do think that there is there's a very
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: very real chance that the a D and people who
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: manage the football are not the same people, and and
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of that is because this is the bread winner. Right.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: It's if you are you know you work for Jeep Chrysler, Uh,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: you know, the guys running the you know the the Avenger, uh,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: you know for Dodge are not the same people in
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: charge of you know, guys making the new Wranglers and
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: new Gladiators and stuff like that. There, it's different entities,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: different people. You're gonna you're gonna see stuff like that
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: happened where football just is the the above all end
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: all when it comes time for the revenue.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: No, that's unpseate it. And that's that's the thing to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: get to keep in consideration English. Good question here, Uh
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: some Sooner fans that's trying to sell a and four
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: whoill set us back five years into mediocrity?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna be honest with this schedule.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's why people are trying to sell eight
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: and four. But I'm gonna say this, and this is
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be an extremely controversial statement. I don't think our
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: schedule is gonna be as hard as people think. It
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: looks very hard on paper. I don't think it's gonna
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: be in a lot of those games as competitive as
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: you think. I just I'm just how I feel about
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: it is how I feel about this team going into
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: this year based upon all the rumbles I've heard from
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: people in practices, this feels like twenty three, but with
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: a lot more complimentary football in comparison and multiple leaders. Right,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: you had Stutsman being, you know, second year in the system,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: being the dude that led everything him and Billy, and
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: those minutes you lost Stutsman, things kind of got squirrelly
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: because people were still trying to figure things out. We're
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: not in that situation offense. Of course, everybody's learning the system,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: but it's a lot easier for them in comparison. I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: know Bill beat and bow has got these boys whipped
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: in the shape on the line. So to me, A
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: and four won't set us back, but we need to
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: go ten in two. We need to go ten and two.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: It puts you back on schedule. Let's put it that way,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: because the schedule gets easier going forward.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: And I I would say that there's being and trying
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: to keep my head about myself. Right now. We need
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: to see the season start, we need to see what
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: the other teams look like. But there's not a team
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: on our schedule. That is, I mean head and shoulders
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: better than so Oklahoma team is going to be from
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: the things that we have heard, not only from you know,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: inside folks, players, parents, things like that, this team is
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: different and it's not hope, it is you know. I
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: think Matier brings so much more to this to this team.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: I think the offensive line, you're not looking for the
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: for five that can play. You're you're trying to figure
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: out which five is going to be the best, because
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: I think that you've got I think that you run
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: ten deep on the offensive line and ten deep team,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: ten good, deep good. I think these wide receivers where
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: I don't see a ceede lamb out there. I see
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys like in the two thousands when
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: you had Mackie Fagan, uh you know, wolf Folk Savage.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Like when you had those guys, there was solid. Every
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: every time that you locked down Josh Norman, every time
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: that you locked down one dude, some of the somebody
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: else popped open. And that's what's going to happen this year. Plus,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: if anybody is confused about Jometier and what he is
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: going to be physically, he's gonna be six one two
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: twenty five. He is going to win a truck and
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: he is not going to have to kill you.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want him to be that, but he will.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be running around trying to try to truck folks.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: But y'all gonna be excited about that. Y'all gonna like
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: the fact that he's gonna be willing to run and
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: be physical all the time. Now, the other thing to
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: go with that too is coop and I love that
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: you point that out. I want to make sure I
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: clarify this too with all the peoples. My people want
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: you to hear me on this. You know, we're going
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: along a little bit. The numbers are rolling up, so
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: I obviously y'all appreciate us interjecting with the little break
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: on supermand now back into football talk. So thank y'all
• 1:26:29
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• 1:26:31
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• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: be required to do everything. Jeo Matier will have moments
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: where he's going to try to do everything. But this
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: is not the year that I'm going to fully judge
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Jo Matier overall in his his tenure at Oklahoma, because
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: if he does go out there and balls out at
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: a ridiculous rate to where we're talking potential Heisman conversation,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: listening to the hypotheticals. Lose your mind yet, But if
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: we're at that point where you have that conversation, then again,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: of course you're gonna judge it and he's gonna be
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: bounced out. You can be like, dude, he produced some
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: absurdity here.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: See him going. Even though I'm betting on him to
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: win the Heisman, I don't see him winning the Heisman.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't mind putting a little dollars on it just
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: to say it, mainly because I think that they're going
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: to make sure that the defense does. The defense is
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: gonna put him in so many good positions that he
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: may not be able to do much do as much
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: as you would like. Just put it that way. The
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: yards may not come as many as often or whatnot,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: because the defense is getting stops or interceptions to turn
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: because they're gonna be costing a ton of turnovers. The
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  Speaker 1: one thing that every school we play against this season
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: is gonna do is test our secondary. And if Gentry
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: and Eli comes back healthy, with kendlede Be coming back
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  Speaker 1: healthy and these young boys get out there them safe.
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  Speaker 1: That safety room does what we expect them to do
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  Speaker 1: with Robert Spiars, Jennings, Peyton Bowen and then Boganowski Hardy
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: as well as Powers. But I'm talking and then you're
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: throwing Kenda Daniel, who's gonna mix in it too. People
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: are gonna test our secondary more than they're going to
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: test the run because they're gonna be afraid to run
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: against us. And if the secondary goes out there and
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: breaks up pass it on a regular basis, or and
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: or light tips passes and gets picks and stuff, guess
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: what y'all gonna be like, Oh, dang, our offense is
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: not playing on very large yards. It's gonna be half
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: the field all the time on a regular basis. It's
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be a dang well geometur finished game. One hundred
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: fifty yards passing in this game and sixty five yards rushing.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: It's a great It's a really good game. If you
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: think of the fact that the starting starting yardage was
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: forty yards. I think that this team has the capability
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: to do that because they did it last year and
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: didn't have an offense. I think the defense is gonna
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: look better this year because the offense is gonna do
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: enough to keep them off the field when they get
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: the ball to them, you're gonna hand the battle of
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Jay and Odd, Xavier Robertson, Taylor Tatum, Javonte Barnes, and
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: then Materier's gonna throw and run. It's gonna be such
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: a mix that you're gonna be like, Oh, this team
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: is not as dependent as we were used to like
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: that twenty twenty three team was dependent on Dylan Gabriel.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: It was the DG's show, and I understand a lot
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: of y'all just wouldn't as fun now. Granted, if we
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: had him last season, we probably win eight games. Dylan
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: DG gets you two more wins because he's gonna actually
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: throw the ball and move the ball. Even with young receivers,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: he's gonna find ways to get them the ball, or
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: he's gonna tuck and run. Right, He's gonna make decisions
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: something that's the toughest part. Materi's gonna be similar. The
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: question is how effective will he be. He's gonna be
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: good enough. It's how effective will he be in putting
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: up actual numbers. I don't know that yet. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know how the what type of positions
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: defense is going to put him into where he takes
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: his time. Do this if you're a gamer, if you
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: decide to pick up college football twenty six, go play
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: with Oklahoma. Everyone I've talked to, let's play with Oklahoma
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: said this is the this is probably the most fun
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: team on the game. And there's a reason why.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: And I'll and I'll also say this too. The reason
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: why Kyler and Baker won Heisman's because their defense was
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: ass and they had to do it all They had
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: long fields all the time. The defense was judged on
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: can we just keep him to a field goal attempt?
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Can we you know? Anytime you guys, I mean a
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: lot of us don't remember you got you got the
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: ball up on the goal line. You knew it was
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. We knew it was going to be a touchdown.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: And so that's the one thing I will say this
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: is get your get your arguments for Twitter ready, because
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling that late November there's gonna be
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of people complaining why jo Matier should be
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: higher up than the Heisman ratings. But I don't think that,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: I j I'm with you. I don't think the stats
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: are going to be there. There's gonna be a lot
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: of people saying, oh, well, look he only went you know,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: fifteen for twenty one for one hundred and eighty five
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: yards and three touchdowns. Well, most of the most likely
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: he probably also had a rushing touchdown. We probably had
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: two other rushing touchdowns in a defensive touchdown. Like it's
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: going to be those types of games. Now, we could
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: be wrong and it could be him with a lot
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: of low key yardage and you know in the forties
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: on touchdowns. I promise you this. So if joh Matier
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: has thirty eight plus touchdowns, he'll be in New York yep.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: And there's a possibility. Now, granted, if somebody does some
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: absurd numbers in the big team or even in the SEC,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: if like Garrett Nusmyerlin north Seles throw ups some just
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: dumb numbers, or somebody doesn't in a big twelve, you
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: may unfortunately not make that trip. But there's a possibility
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: he'll be in set those conversations because you know, all
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: all he needs to do is manage the team properly.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: He's gonna take risks. Please believe he's gonna have turnovers.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: Like if there's anything I've said I've personally calculated. I'm
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: gonna give y'all my final predictions as soon as a
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: fall camp starts here in August, but i'm gonna tell
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: y'all right now a little preview on that. I expect
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: him to have at least twelve interceptions this season. And
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: I say twelve because I think he's going to toss
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: it into some tight spots and some of those moments
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: he's gonna win, and other moments he's gonna lose. I'm
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: not gonna lose my mind on it because he's gonna
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: take risk like our other I mean Hawkins as well
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: as I mean Hawkins had his game in South Carolina
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: and that was a lot of him getting hit. But
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: besides that, he wasn't really throwing the ball into like trouble.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: He was making sure they were borderline wide, wide open.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: But that's what happens with true freshman. There's nothing against him.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: It's more of a true freshman thing. You wanna make
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: sure it's perfect before you do it. Nah, Materia ain't
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: go side arm and fling it and you're gonna be like, no, Yes,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do that a lot. Just just brace yourself
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: for that conversation that that's what's gonna happen. But from there,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the next question comes in, which I think is perfect
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: for this to go into it, and this from English
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: as well, asking a question about what was the expectation
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: would be V the first year. I'm gonna be honest,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: I thought the roster could win eight games. Now when
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: I found out his portal strategy taper my expectations down
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: to six. I thought six and six. And I say
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: that because instead of cleaning up clearing house basically all
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: the players, we probably should have cleared house with cleared
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: house before the twenty four season. For last season, that's
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: when you start to see a lot of those bodies
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: shifting and you're like, eh, that's when you probably should
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: have been bringing in dues to groom up to prepare
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: for twenty four. And I don't see yah. I've heard
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: me say this. I've been vocal about this part when
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: I've taught to BV. And I'm actually, you know what,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually ask him this question at media days.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna notate this now to remind myself of asking
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: this question how does he feel about the way they
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: did things when he first got here in twenty two?
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Does he feel like that prepared him enough for the
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: SEC And I say that because I don't think it did.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: I think the problem was is that he was giving
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: too much grace in an industry that's too cutthroat for
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: you to do that. Like I said, is that a
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: bad thing? Because that's actually a very noble thing for
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: him to to say, because he said it, I'm not
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be like coach prom I'm not gonna send everybody
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: out and bring in fifty more people than you know.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. I get it. But Coop, that
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: was the thing that got me is that, Yeah, man,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: you probably should have did that. Yep. Probably should be
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: cleaned downs on defensive side of the ball and winged
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: it from there. But he didn't. He gave grace, He
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: let people try to figure it out. It didn't work out,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: then you start to see shifts. That's why I felt
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: like the first year was probably not gonna be that great.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: The good thing is is that it proved me right,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: because the second year was a hell of a lot better.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, again, going into twenty three,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: we saw no real clear path. Gee freakeyat was the
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: most exciting thing that we were hearing in the in
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: the offseason, right. Jalil Farouk was really the only guy
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: that we, you know, had hope around Andrea Anthony, you're
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: banking on his eight catches at Michigan and that team.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: That team showed out because they were I mean, they
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: were talented. And so I will just say this is
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: I think that Brent fennibles this year. He has taken
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: over the defense because he wants that to go. He
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: wants to at least have that part just done. He
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: has given the ability. You know, I think that the
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: zach Ally departure, I think with time things will come
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: out on that one. But I think that forced him
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: just to kind of take over and be in charge
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: of that stuff. I think that, you know, he has
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: handed the offense over to our buckle. And you know,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: some of the some of the conversations that we've heard
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: here since since the departure of Latrelle, and now that
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: people are a little bit more willing to have that conversation,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: it sounds like everything that we saw with our eyes
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: was exactly true. That it was a mess. It was
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: a mess. It wasn't just a mess between him and EJ.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just a mess with him and him and DeMarco.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: It was it was every single coach. There was no uniformity,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: there was no agreement. And yeah, I will say this,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: you have a very very good opportunity at this point
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: going forward for this team to come in. You know
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: this is so this is kind of my wrap up
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: for the w n L. Man I I'm sticking with
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: my ten and two pick right now. I really you
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: have an easier schedule versus what you had last year.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: It's going to be easier because I think Tennessee drops
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: back or miss drops back. South Carolina is South Carolina,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: and I think that there's just going to be a
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: tough out no matter what happens. Texas is starting a
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: bunch of brand new a bunch of a bunch of
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: bunch of newness there. So the schedule is easier. But
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: now you have a pulse quarterback and so Jeo Matier
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: knows how to make plays. He's like you said, Jay,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna be asked to do everything. But if
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: you gave the defense an offensive, you know, hope that
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: defense would have been you know, ten even ten times
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: better than you know even what and and this this listen,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: you can say whatever you want. You know, I see
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: a guy in here. I don't know if if it's
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: drugs or if you're just strolling. But the players are
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: speaking differently about Jo Matier than they were last year.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: You know, it was don't hurt Jackson's feelings, ensure point
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: on like the potential. It's different with Matier. It's it's
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: they They now know that there's bullets in the in
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: the chamber and it's ready. It's time to go.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. So we'll get to that point. It's a
• 1:38:56
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• 1:39:03
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• 1:39:08
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• 1:39:13
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• 1:39:19
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• 1:39:24
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• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: probably the week before as we preview the actually the
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: week of we'll preview the Illinois State game, which is
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be a really weird game. To preview, but you know,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: we'll preview it, we'll talk about who they got, get
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: y'all prepared for it, and we'll we'll we'll we'll do
• 1:39:41
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• 1:39:46
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• 1:39:50
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• 1:39:56
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