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  Speaker 1: Tonight, another politician grubbly exploiting the attack on MP Helen Haynes.
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  Speaker 2: Is the Prime Minister waiting for something like what happened
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  Speaker 2: to Dr Helen Haynes to occur to my office, to me,
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  Speaker 2: for him to take our request seriously?
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  Speaker 1: Why this Albanese government minister is the last person to
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  Speaker 1: now teach politicians to be nicer. Also tonight, the prime
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  Speaker 1: minister shows how hard it is to even get him
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  Speaker 1: to admit to what could be just an honest mistake,
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  Speaker 1: never mind admit to a lie. Plus Matt Canavan and
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  Speaker 1: lots more. But first, before I show you the latest
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  Speaker 1: Chris Bowen scandals that should really finish him as our
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  Speaker 1: climate change minister, First, an insight into how it's got
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  Speaker 1: away with it for so long. Our facts don't actually
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  Speaker 1: count with global warming, true believers. On Saturday in Sydney,
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  Speaker 1: leftist podcaster Hannah Ferguson addressed a crowd to demand more
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  Speaker 1: action to stop this alleged climate crisis. We are here today.
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  Speaker 3: And we have hundreds if not thousands of young people.
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  Speaker 4: Standing in the shade in October because we can't stand in.
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  Speaker 5: The sun because of the overwhelming heat.
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  Speaker 1: The bizarre thing that this overwhelming heat she was talking
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  Speaker 1: about was, as she spoke, somewhere between a beautiful 22
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  Speaker 1: degrees and a balmy 24. So that's about the long-term
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  Speaker 1: average for that time of day in that time of year.
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  Speaker 1: A normal spring day, in other words. But to a
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  Speaker 1: global warming believer, even normal is now climate hell. Which
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  Speaker 1: brings me to Chris Bowen. Now, Bowen is not just
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  Speaker 1: blind to facts, he's also incompetent. So even if you
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  Speaker 1: believe there is a climate crisis, which there's not, and
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  Speaker 1: even if you believe we could stop it, which we can't,
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  Speaker 1: surely even Labor MPs must now figure that Bowen's got
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  Speaker 1: to go. Now you just take for a start his
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  Speaker 1: extraordinary run this week of embarrassments. Remember its climate conference
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  Speaker 1: in Fiji and Tuvalu this month, which turned into such
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  Speaker 1: a farce and a snoozefest? Bowen invited world leaders but
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  Speaker 1: got just two to come from outside the Pacific, the
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  Speaker 1: leaders of mighty East Timor and world power, the Maldives. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Bowen told us three weeks ago the cost of this
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  Speaker 1: flop was about $ 20 million.
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  Speaker 6: Is it 20, as reported, 20 million, or is it more?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, that's... Yeah, no, no, that's in keeping with
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  Speaker 7: the estimates at this point, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, $ 20 million is already bad enough, but yesterday, Bowen's
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  Speaker 1: own department admitted in Senate estimates it actually cost much,
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  Speaker 1: much more.
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  Speaker 8: To date, we have contracted commitments associated with pre-cop delivery
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  Speaker 8: of $ 34. 6 million, $ 35 million?
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  Speaker 1: $ 35 million? Nearly? $ 35 million? No, look, it's true. It
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  Speaker 1: might turn out to be less than that because so
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  Speaker 1: few people turned up. Few of them were budgeted for.
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  Speaker 1: $ 35 million, though. And then there was a blowout to
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  Speaker 1: Bowen's plan to give billions of dollars in handouts to
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  Speaker 1: help people, mainly rich ones, buy home batteries. Another blunder.
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  Speaker 1: This scheme... had already blown out to triple the original
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  Speaker 1: budget of $ 2. 3 billion. Triple that. And Bowen's department admitted
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  Speaker 1: last night the scheme had been too generous and was
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  Speaker 1: already running again out of cash. It just goes on.
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  Speaker 1: Also today, news that almost a quarter of the wind,
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  Speaker 1: solar and battery projects that Bowen is back to replace
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  Speaker 1: the coal generators about to close have left his scheme.
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  Speaker 1: We need the power of some replacement. They're off. The
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  Speaker 1: cost is just too much, you see. And unbelievably, there
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  Speaker 1: was a fourth flop this week. You know, we now
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  Speaker 1: learn that Bone not only spent $ 2 million on broadcasting
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  Speaker 1: services for a stud climate summit, we knew that already,
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  Speaker 1: but his official YouTube channel attracted just 90 subscribers. Just
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  Speaker 1: 90 for Bone's taxpayer-funded... blog about how he's saving the planet,
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  Speaker 1: when even a vlog by a woman filming her pet
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  Speaker 1: rats got over 10 times more. So that's four Bowen
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  Speaker 1: flops just this week, and it's still only Tuesday. And
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  Speaker 1: this keeps happening with him, as you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: last week, Bowen admitted to the biggest blowout of all.
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  Speaker 1: The Snowy 2.0 scheme went from an estimated cost of
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  Speaker 1: $ 2 billion when Malcolm Turnbull first thought of it, the
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  Speaker 1: foolish man, and to now $ 25 billion, or really $ 50
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  Speaker 1: billion when you add the wires to hook it up.
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  Speaker 1: $ 50 billion. Now, this, of course, is kind of battery
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  Speaker 1: using wind and solar power to pump water uphill and
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  Speaker 1: let it fall again when you need hydro power. $ 50 billion. Now,
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  Speaker 1: add all these flops. To Bowen's many other disasters that
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  Speaker 1: have listed over the years, especially the $ 9 billion he
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  Speaker 1: committed to developing green hydrogen, a miracle green gas made
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  Speaker 1: from water with massive amounts of green energy. Bowen drank
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  Speaker 1: that Kool-Aid.
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  Speaker 6: Our green hydrogen future is fundamental to that clean energy future.
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  Speaker 1: But now even Andrew Forrest, the billionaire who helped persuade
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  Speaker 1: Bowen that green hydrogen is going to work and save us,
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  Speaker 1: save the planet... Even he has now scrapped his own project.
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  Speaker 1: So Bowen is trying to con you into thinking he
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  Speaker 1: was always a bit sceptical, always, despite throwing out $ 9
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  Speaker 1: billion at it.
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  Speaker 9: I never quite bought all the hype on green hydrogen.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. By now you're probably, you know, eyes
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  Speaker 1: are spinning or glazing over from all these billions, billions
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  Speaker 1: wasted on this, billions wasted on that. It's like fantasy money,
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  Speaker 1: what does it mean? So let me make it personal
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  Speaker 1: to help you relate to this unforgivable waste. Bowen is
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  Speaker 1: even spending your money to send people around the world
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  Speaker 1: to say that climate change is terrible and Bowen will
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  Speaker 1: help stop it. They're often unqualified people, but as long
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  Speaker 1: as they repeat his bull, they get all this international
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  Speaker 1: travel and why wouldn't they? Examples.
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  Speaker 10: One.
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  Speaker 1: Bowen paid for former Labor Prime Minister Julia Gillard to
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  Speaker 1: go to his climate conference to back him up. Julia Gillard. Two,
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  Speaker 1: Bowen paid for friendly union officials to go as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, union officials. Three, Bowen also has a climate
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  Speaker 1: change ambassador spending nearly $ 150, 000 of your money in just
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  Speaker 1: one year on travel around the world. Four, because it
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  Speaker 1: keeps going on, Bowen is giving $ 650, 000 of your money
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  Speaker 1: to send Aboriginal Australians and young Australians to go with
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  Speaker 1: him to next month's climate conference in Turkey and babble
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  Speaker 1: his lines, keep him company, look decorative at the Australian pavilion.
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  Speaker 1: $ 20, 000 each. And five, he's got this youth climate champion,
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  Speaker 1: another $ 50, 000 for her to say stuff like this.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Sally Higgins, the COP31 Presidency Youth Climate Champion.
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  Speaker 4: So we're seeing climate impacts all through our lives. And
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  Speaker 4: for example, even in our food systems, we see that
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  Speaker 4: climate change is impacting our ability to produce food and fibre.
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  Speaker 1: Even our food systems, she's wrong, of course, just like
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Ferguson was wrong at the top of the show.
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  Speaker 1: The facts show that the Australian Bureau of Agricultural Resources
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  Speaker 1: Economics and Sciences estimated that Australia's agricultural production value last
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  Speaker 1: financial year just ended. It would hit a record $ 101 billion.
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  Speaker 1: We are actually growing more, not less. Or we're earning
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  Speaker 1: more from it. There is no crisis there. But, of course,
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  Speaker 1: that's not a useful fact. So to climate crusaders in
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  Speaker 1: Bowen's taxpayer-funded army, it's not a fact at all. There
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  Speaker 1: has to be a climate crisis, whether the temperature is
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  Speaker 1: 24 degrees in spring or crops are setting new records
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  Speaker 1: or hurricanes are falling in numbers. There's got to be
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  Speaker 1: a crisis, otherwise they don't get money and they don't
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  Speaker 1: get the travel, et cetera, et cetera. And you know
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  Speaker 1: the ultimate madness? I'm sure you know it already. I've
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  Speaker 1: said it often enough. Nothing Australia does makes any noticeable
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  Speaker 1: difference to the climate anyway. Ask any of those crusaders.
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  Speaker 1: They can't tell you. Our emissions are too small. So
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  Speaker 1: Bowen is spending billions of dollars we don't have to
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  Speaker 1: make no difference that anyone can measure to a climate
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  Speaker 1: crisis we can't see. Why is he still there? Now,
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  Speaker 1: we do need a fact check on this madness from
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  Speaker 1: a real expert, and joining me is the former head
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  Speaker 1: of Australia's then National Climate Centre and a former consultant
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  Speaker 1: to the World Meteorological Organisation, William Kinnamith. William, great to
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  Speaker 1: see you again. There are three keys to the global
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  Speaker 1: warming scare, of course. Global warming is dangerous. Humans cause
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  Speaker 1: almost all of it and we can stop it. Let's
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  Speaker 1: tick them off. for viewers, drawing on a fascinating paper
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  Speaker 1: that you've just written for the Climate Intelligence Group. First,
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  Speaker 1: is global warming dangerous, or is there maybe a benefit
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  Speaker 1: or two that we should take into consideration?
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  Speaker 11: Andrew, there's very good benefits coming out of the global
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  Speaker 11: warming because what we're finding, we've got now 45 years
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  Speaker 11: of very good climate data, global climate data over the
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  Speaker 11: satellite period. And what that's showing is that in the
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  Speaker 11: northern hemisphere, in the agricultural areas, the spring thaw is
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  Speaker 11: arriving earlier and the autumn freeze is coming later. So
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  Speaker 11: you've got a much longer growing season. And that's part
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  Speaker 11: of the reason why... NASA satellites are showing a greening
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  Speaker 11: of the planet because the biosphere is reacting to this
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  Speaker 11: much longer growing season. And we're getting not only a
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  Speaker 11: much more vigorous environment, but we're also getting much more
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  Speaker 11: food production.
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  Speaker 1: And that is a very, very important consideration, of course.
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  Speaker 1: When the planet was colder in the Middle Ages, of course,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people were starving. Second, do humans cause
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  Speaker 1: almost all the warming we've seen? And here, of course,
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  Speaker 1: is where your paper is so interesting.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I'd suggest, Andrew, that carbon dioxide causes, changing carbon
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  Speaker 11: dioxide causes almost no influence on the climate at all.
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  Speaker 11: A couple of reasons for that. One is that the
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  Speaker 11: IPCC talks about annual global average temperature. And so what
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  Speaker 11: we're trying to do is to reduce the increase in
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  Speaker 11: that by 1.5 degrees. Every year, there's an annual cycle
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  Speaker 11: in the global temperature with a range of about three degrees.
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  Speaker 11: And that's much more than what we're actually trying to
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  Speaker 11: stop the.
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  Speaker 5: Rise.
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  Speaker 11: The other point about that is that the warmest time
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  Speaker 11: of the year for the globe is in the Northern
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  Speaker 11: Hemisphere summer. And that's the time when carbon dioxide is
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  Speaker 11: being taken up by the plants and so forth of
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  Speaker 11: the Northern Hemisphere and the concentration in the atmosphere is
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  Speaker 11: actually decreasing. So the temperature and carbon dioxide are actually
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  Speaker 11: out of phase. And so the third point, of course,
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  Speaker 11: is that the fastest warming pattern on the planet is,
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  Speaker 11: in fact, over the Arctic in winter, when there's almost
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  Speaker 11: no sunshine, there's no solar radiation coming in, so there's
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  Speaker 11: no greenhouse effect, and so you can't have an enhanced
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  Speaker 11: greenhouse effect. So carbon dioxide really has got no influence
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  Speaker 11: on our climate.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I know that there are a lot of experts,
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  Speaker 1: many of them pay to think that way, would disagree
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  Speaker 1: with you, but you're retired. You can say what the
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  Speaker 1: hell you like without fear of losing your job or
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  Speaker 1: your grant.
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  Speaker 11: The reason they disagree is because of these computer models
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  Speaker 11: and the way they put carbon dioxide into computer models
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  Speaker 11: is logically inconsistent. They say that carbon dioxide is going
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  Speaker 11: to warm the atmosphere, but in fact... the greenhouse gases
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  Speaker 11: of the atmosphere, mainly water vapour, they actually emit more
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  Speaker 11: radiation than they absorb. The greenhouse gases tend to cool
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  Speaker 11: the atmosphere. It doesn't cool, of course, because we're getting
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  Speaker 11: heat and latent energy coming from the surface, flowing from
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  Speaker 11: the surface all the time. So there's a basic problem
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  Speaker 11: with the computer models.
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  Speaker 1: And, of course, it's been long notorious that the computer
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  Speaker 1: models don't properly factor in the effect of cloud formation
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  Speaker 1: in them. Now, lastly... and this is related, of course,
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  Speaker 1: is it in our power to stop the warming, even
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  Speaker 1: if we did think it was dangerous? And I came
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  Speaker 1: across a really interesting graphic tracking carbon dioxide concentrations in
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  Speaker 1: the atmosphere, along with all the UN climate conferences over
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  Speaker 1: the years, and of course, Chris Bowens, President of Negotiations
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  Speaker 1: for the next one. I can't see any interruption in
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  Speaker 1: the steady growth of emissions as a result. There's a
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  Speaker 1: little blip when You know, the world went into lockdowns
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  Speaker 1: and all that with the COVID pandemic, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: see the conferences making any real difference to that.
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  Speaker 11: Well, carbon dioxide is just doing its normal thing and increasing,
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  Speaker 11: and it's increasing because the oceans are warming, and so
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  Speaker 11: there's much more carbon dioxide coming out of the oceans
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  Speaker 11: than what there previously was when the oceans were cooler, say,
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  Speaker 11: during the Little Ice Age period.
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  Speaker 10: And so.
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  Speaker 11: Carbon dioxide largely follows the temperature there.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the other way around. And, in fact, that
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  Speaker 1: was the lesson of the previous times that the world
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  Speaker 1: increased in temperature. I'm going back hundreds of thousands of years.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to point that out to Al Gore at
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  Speaker 1: a climate conference where I was foolishly asked to ask
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  Speaker 1: a question and he just went nuts. He didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to admit to it. Chris Bowen's approach then, what do
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  Speaker 1: you make of it?
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  Speaker 11: Well, I think this whole business of trying to reduce
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  Speaker 11: carbon or decarbonise our industries is actually just sending us
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  Speaker 11: all broke because essentially it's not going to make any
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  Speaker 11: difference at all. We're putting a lot of our money
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  Speaker 11: into these schemes to decarbonise the atmosphere and and industry
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  Speaker 11: and does not make any difference at all. It's just
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  Speaker 11: using money that could be done for much more beneficial
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  Speaker 11: purposes in this hope to try and change the climate,
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  Speaker 11: which it's not going to do.
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  Speaker 1: It is so foolish. Books will be written about this
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  Speaker 1: 100 years from now, about this madness. It would be
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  Speaker 1: put in equivalent to burning witches or something. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: William Kinnaman, thank you so much for your time. After
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  Speaker 1: the break, amazing footage showing just how hard it is
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  Speaker 1: for the Prime Minister to admit to even probably an
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  Speaker 1: honest mistake. Matt Canavan after this. Look, incredible proof today
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  Speaker 1: of how hard it is for Anthony Albanese to admit
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  Speaker 1: he was wrong, let alone that he lied, you know.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen, of course, how the Prime Minister has claimed
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  Speaker 1: he didn't fall off his stage and He didn't lie
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  Speaker 1: when he promised more than 50 times not to hit
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  Speaker 1: us with housing taxes. Just changed his mind. How he
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  Speaker 1: last week even claimed a dirt sheet that he put
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  Speaker 1: out on MP Helen Haynes was in fact actually praise
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  Speaker 1: for a woman of integrity. But in this case, all
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  Speaker 1: he needed to do was to own up what you
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  Speaker 1: could say was an innocent mistake or at worst, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just a very sloppy bit of excuse making. Last month,
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  Speaker 1: Albanese claimed the dodgy $ 6 million grant that he gave
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  Speaker 1: to the Marrickville Golf Club was for this reason.
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  Speaker 6: When it floods in Marrickville, raw sewage flows into the
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  Speaker 6: Cooks River.
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  Speaker 5: That is what the funding is for.
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  Speaker 1: Now, last night at Senate Estimates, his own department staff said, actually,
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  Speaker 1: that it didn't have anything to do with the sewage, so... Look,
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister had nowhere to go, caught short. The
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  Speaker 1: opposition today went for his throat. But Albanese still couldn't
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  Speaker 1: just straight off the bat, front up, I made a mistake,
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  Speaker 1: couldn't say that.
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  Speaker 12: The Prime Minister told this House his $ 6 million taxpayer-funded
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  Speaker 12: grant to Marrickville Golf Club was to fix sewerage flows into.
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  Speaker 1: The Cooks River.
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  Speaker 12: Last week, the Department of Infrastructure confirmed to a Senate
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  Speaker 12: inquiry sewerage works were not in the scope of the
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  Speaker 12: $ 6 million grant. This was confirmed again at Senate Estimates
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  Speaker 12: last night. Will the Prime Minister give Australians a straight answer,
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  Speaker 12: admit he misled the House and correct the record?
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  Speaker 6: Sewage issues are a long-standing concern on this site and
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  Speaker 6: I'm advised that in September 2025, that is after we
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  Speaker 6: had made the commitment, the New South Wales Government committed
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  Speaker 6: funding towards the sewage-related aspects of the club.
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  Speaker 1: He twisted, he turned, he obfuscated, and it took a long,
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  Speaker 1: long time, repeated questioning before Albanese finally coughed up the truth,
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  Speaker 1: or is it, that yes, I had been.
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  Speaker 5: Wrong.
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  Speaker 6: It was not correct to save. that the federal grant
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  Speaker 6: would deal with the Sewer Row, well, to quote the
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  Speaker 6: State Government media release of 17 September 2025, I assume
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  Speaker 6: it's from the State Government, putting an end to Sewer
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  Speaker 6: Row's marital golf course to get a whole lot better.
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  Speaker 6: After we made the commitment to the club, which included
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  Speaker 6: fixing this issue, which has been an issue since 1947,
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  Speaker 6: the State Government have stepped in.
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  Speaker 5: That is a good thing.
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  Speaker 6: I was not aware of the state government grant. Why
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  Speaker 6: would I be?
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  Speaker 1: Well, bottle that one for future posterity. I mean, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It made me wonder, you know, is it that it's
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  Speaker 1: got a bit of imposter syndrome, that he's not really
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  Speaker 1: cut out to be Prime Minister, that he doesn't dare?
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  Speaker 1: give any sign that he could be wrong or something?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what it is, the lying and the this
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  Speaker 1: and the that and the twisting? Is that really what
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  Speaker 1: it is? I mean, a really confident person would say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got it wrong, you know, and everyone's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: good on you, but he just can't do it. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: more to come on that story, I'm sure. Joining me
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  Speaker 1: a short while ago was our Tuesday regular commentator, Matt Canavan,
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  Speaker 1: the Nationals leader. Matt Canavan, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: joining me. What does this tell you, Anthony Albanese's unbelievable
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  Speaker 1: reluctance to simply say, I made a mistake?
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  Speaker 13: Well, look, it's a pattern of behaviour, Andrew, a pattern
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  Speaker 13: of behaviour from a Prime Minister where It seems easier
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  Speaker 13: for a dentist to pull out teeth than it is
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  Speaker 13: to pull out the truth from our Prime Minister. Time
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  Speaker 13: and time again, he has a hard relationship with the truth,
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  Speaker 13: whether it's not admitting to falling off stage, whether it's
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  Speaker 13: not admitting that he did say that his digital duty
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  Speaker 13: of care legislation is to deal with misinformation and disinformation.
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  Speaker 9: We have him on tape saying that. and then the
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  Speaker 9: very next.
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  Speaker 13: Day he denies it, and now this Grant debacle as well.
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  Speaker 13: Why can't the Prime Minister just admit a mistake when
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  Speaker 13: he makes it? And then, of course, the biggest mistake,
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  Speaker 13: which is at the origins of the second term of
• 20:43
  Speaker 13: the Anthony Albanese government, is the lies he told the
• 20:46
  Speaker 13: Australian people. He told the Australian people... 50 times at
• 20:49
  Speaker 13: the last election, he wouldn't raise taxes on a variety
• 20:52
  Speaker 13: of things like negative.
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: Gearing, on capital gains. And he did. He did.
• 20:58
  Speaker 13: And that lack of trust now is, I think, eroding
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: our social harmony. It's a lack of trust is contributing
• 21:07
  Speaker 13: to a lack of business confidence in our future. And
• 21:11
  Speaker 13: I think the government just has to be up front
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: with us. And the best thing they could do is
• 21:13
  Speaker 13: just have an election. get an election out of the
• 21:15
  Speaker 13: way and actually take their policies to the people and
• 21:18
  Speaker 13: be judged by that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I have been shocked, Matt, by politicians exploiting that terrible
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: attack on independent MP Helen Haynes to push their own
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: agenda when all we know so far is that she
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: was rammed, allegedly, by a mentally disturbed man who frightened
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: his neighbours with his erratic behaviour. He had ranted at
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: his father, who was actually a friend of Haynes's, Last
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: night I showed the Greens leader, David Shoebridge, somehow link
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: this to the war in Gaza and I thought that
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: was appalling. Now we've got this disgusting example from independent
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Senator Fatima Payman exploiting it to get more staff. Now,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the grab is long, but I tell you, it is
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: so damning. Have a look.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Has the Prime Minister refused to make a decision on
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: my request because unlike all the other defectors I defected
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: from the Labor Party....
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I will have to ask him.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Am I being made an example of?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I'll have to ask him that question.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, please do. And I'm glad this is on the record.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Please look into the fact that my staff are burning out.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: They can't take this any longer. And is the Prime
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Minister waiting for something like what happened to Dr Helen
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Haynes to occur to my office, to me, for him
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to take our request seriously?
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: Look, I personally think that's an outrageous suggestion, Senator Payman.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe that I'm saying that or making
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: that suggestion because it's been two years.
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: That was quite an outrageous statement.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I would ask you to withdraw it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: I appreciate your frustration.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that conflating those two issues.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Chair, with all due respect, I haven't made any accusation.
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: I think you just did.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: It wasn't... I've been waiting two years, Chair.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And I am tired of looking in my staff's eyes
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and saying, you just have to deal with this because
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister is petty.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: And we thought particularly on a day like today.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: We should all be better than that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: I agree.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: But you're not going to be. Matt, that is just
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: such an astonishing and shocking insight.
• 23:37
  Speaker 13: Look, Andrew, I mean, I have some sympathy for the
• 23:41
  Speaker 13: crossbench senators who are being used as political playthings by
• 23:44
  Speaker 13: the Prime Minister. If you look at the staffing allocations,
• 23:47
  Speaker 13: it's no doubt that favourites are being played and that
• 23:50
  Speaker 13: shouldn't happen.
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: It's not the right thing to do.
• 23:54
  Speaker 13: But I also agree with you, as we discussed last week, that, look,
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: I find it distasteful to use personal and family tragedy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: It's a horrific tragedy that's occurred. uh, to Dr.
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: Haynes, uh, uh, to pursue, uh, uh, things you were
• 24:09
  Speaker 13: doing anyway. And Fatima Payne has been, Panna Payne, sorry,
• 24:12
  Speaker 13: has been on this crusade, uh, for more staff for
• 24:15
  Speaker 13: some time, uh, I just think there's a time and
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: a place. Despite, I do think the Prime Minister is
• 24:23
  Speaker 13: weaponising the allocation of staff. I don't think he's doing
• 24:26
  Speaker 13: it to in any way put people at risk. I'm
• 24:30
  Speaker 13: not making that claim. But there is politics being played here.
• 24:34
  Speaker 13: There's a political way you could raise these issues without
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: seeking to do so off the platform of other people's grief.
• 24:41
  Speaker 13: I do think it's distasteful. I've tried to avoid it
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: and I'll continue to take that approach.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Well said. I think two things can be true at
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the same time, that the Prime Minister's behaving disgracefully with
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: playing politics with staff, particularly regarding One Nation, but to
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: use this tragedy to try to get him and morally
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: blackmail him into giving you more staff or her more staff,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: that is just out of bounds. That's not the only
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: thing that's come out of Senate estimates that's got you
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: stirred up, Matt.
• 25:14
  Speaker 13: No, we've had a number of issues come up, Andrew,
• 25:17
  Speaker 13: but one in particular is the government's just taking water
• 25:22
  Speaker 13: back from farmers with no consideration of the impact on
• 25:29
  Speaker 13: their livelihoods. Last night it was revealed that the government's
• 25:35
  Speaker 13: signed up or effectively letting the New South Wales government
• 25:38
  Speaker 13: put water over farmers' land without their consent.
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: New South Wales changed legislation last year to allow this
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: to happen.
• 25:45
  Speaker 13: The Commonwealth Government says that, oh, no, we don't use
• 25:48
  Speaker 13: our water to take over people's farms, to damage their
• 25:50
  Speaker 13: farm property.
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: But when I drill down, actually.
• 25:54
  Speaker 13: They are sitting back and washing their hands, quite literally,
• 25:59
  Speaker 13: while the New South Wales Government does this to our
• 26:00
  Speaker 13: farmers and our landowners. I think it's disgraceful. I think
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: we need to protect property rights. We particularly need to
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: help our farmers who are doing it very tough. potentially
• 26:08
  Speaker 13: facing going into dry conditions. They don't need a government
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: that makes their life so much harder.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Now, the seat of Capricorn is very interesting. Michelle Landry's
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: stepping aside. She's retiring. There's a lot of speculation that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: you're going to run for it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: Are you?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Because if you do, you'll probably be running against either
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: James Ashby or Pauline Hanson herself for that seat for
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: One Nation.
• 26:35
  Speaker 13: Look, I know what I'm going to do, Andrew, but
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: I'm not going to tell you here tonight, sorry. Like
• 26:40
  Speaker 13: Michelle's announcement last week, any announcement about the LNP's candidate
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: Capricornium will be made locally. We'll make it among our
• 26:47
  Speaker 13: people in central Queensland. So I'll wait till at the
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: very least I'm back there to say anything about my future.
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: I'm stuck down here in Canberra, unfortunately. I've got a
• 26:55
  Speaker 13: job to do here, but my job here is to
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: fight for those people back who I represent all through Queensland,
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: but I take special interest in central Queensland, given where
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: I'm from, and very proud of what we've achieved in
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: the area in getting the Adani mine going. I think
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: you might be able to see that in the background.
• 27:11
  Speaker 13: I think there's a pineapple in the background. We're trying
• 27:13
  Speaker 13: to protect our local pineapple industry right now from foreign imports,
• 27:17
  Speaker 13: and we've delivered massive amounts of infrastructure from dams to
• 27:21
  Speaker 13: roads for the region. I'm very passionate about that because
• 27:24
  Speaker 13: we need to open up new parts of our country
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: like central Queensland, especially to take the pressure off our
• 27:29
  Speaker 13: major cities.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. I think I got a steer there, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I don't dare say in case I'm wrong, but I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: think viewers will make up their own minds. Matt Canavan,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: looking forward to that announcement. Thank you so much for
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: your time.
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: Thanks, Andrew.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Just going back to the Prime Minister's $ 6 million grant
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to the golf club, which he argued was really... His
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: passion about it was for the surge works. That was
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a really important thing. If it turns out New South
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Wales ended up paying for it so the money wasn't
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: needed for that, Why did this grant still go ahead?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Why did they still get the six mil? After the break,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the viciously anti-Jewish ad for a Democrat candidate as Donald
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Trump faces defeat next week in America's midterm elections. That's true.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I've been critical of some of the things that Donald
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Trump has said and done lately, and Some people say, oh,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: what kind of conservative are you? You've gone woke, as if,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you know. Well, what they should consider is that what
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is doing with this crazy behaviour and some
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of this crazy talk is helping to elect Democrats in
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: next Tuesday's midterm elections. And bad as Trump is, some
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of those Democrats are worse than Now, one, for instance,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: is Abdullah El-Sayed. There's a virulently anti-Israel Muslim hardline and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: far-left agitator running for the Senate in Michigan. And if
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: he wins, the Democrats could take over the Senate from
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the Republicans and cripple Donald Trump's power. Now, for an
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: example of the people backing this bloke, here is an
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: ad in his support, put together by the viciously anti-Israel
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Young Turks group. and not condemned by Al-Sayed. And its
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: argument that Americans are paying more for eggs and bananas
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to help Jews murder Palestinians. What about the bananas?
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got them too.
• 29:33
  Speaker 14: But, honey.
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: What?
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: You're going to have to put those eggs back.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: They don't like eggs anymore?
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: No, they like.
• 29:40
  Speaker 14: eggs.
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: But we have to set that $ 7 aside.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: For killing Palestinians?
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: What?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, don't we give Israel $ 4 billion a year anyways?
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and now we're giving them another $ 26 billion.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Do you know how much that is per American taxpayer?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: By the way, the yearly aid to Israel for its
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: defence from terrorist attack, that is funding originally set up
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: by one of al-Sayed's fellow Democrats, then President Barack Obama.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Joining me is Donald Trump's first White House spokesman, Sean Spicer.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I spoke to him a short while ago. Sean Spicer,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. Al-Sayed's campaign says, no,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: this ad is not his ad. He hasn't condemned it,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: he just says it's not my ad. Do you buy that?
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: Well, technically, he might be right, but the reality is
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: that that's a group that's speaking on his behalf.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, what's so hard? Andrew, here's what I don't understand.
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: It's the same thing with the Muslim Brotherhood. Just say,
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: I condemn it. What's so hard about that? I don't
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: understand it. It's offensive, and it's anti-Semitic. All you have
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: to say is, yeah, I think it's offensive.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: It's not mine.
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: I condemn it. I wish the people would take it down,
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: put it up. And I understand where there's outrage.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: And you know what? The issue would go away in
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: two seconds.
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: And once again, he's doubling down because you've got to
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: think to yourself, if you don't condemn that, and this
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: is something that we on the right face all the time,
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: where everyone has to condemn every single thing that anybody says.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: But here on the left, he just gets dismissed it as, oh,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: it's not mine.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: You said anti-Semitic. I totally agree with you. It feeds
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: into an anti-Semitic trope that any trouble you have, you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: those Jews are behind it. What scares me about this
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: is that it's seen now, that kind of stuff, as
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: something you can do mainstream now and kind of get
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: away with, in fact, win an election with it, when
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you know, look, for a start, egg prices are actually
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: set almost entirely by domestic factors like, you know, avian
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: flu killing chickens or whatever, not by defending Jews in
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Israel from terrorist armies. How is it that this ad
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: could go to air as an election winner?
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: Well, the one thing I'll say that's fascinating today is
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: that a lot of Democrats, prominent Democrats, have come out
• 32:03
  Speaker 10: and said, no way. This is no matter where you
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: come down, including Haley Stevens, who is one of his
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: primary opponents in Michigan.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: So I will give at least.
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: Some elements of the Democratic Party credit for denouncing this
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: and saying he's got to do this. One of the
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: former chairs of the Democratic National Committee equally called and
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: condemned it. This is what baffles me. If you want
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: this issue to go away, if you're El Saeed, This
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: is not a good thing to have to deal with
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: eight days out from election. Just say, yeah, of course.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I condemn it, and the news cycle would end and
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: we'd move on.
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: The best thing for Republicans right now is that if
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: we can have the discussion about this ad for another
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: day or two or three, this just hurts him.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: And it's a reminder to.
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: The Jews that live in Michigan that have traditionally voted
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: Democrat about how crazy and out of touch this guy is.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: But you say this guy like it's a one-off, right?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: This is a one-off. Or, Sean, is this part of
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: a wider group within the Democrats... It's a.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Growing group, and you make a really good distinction. It's
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: not a one-off.
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: You look at some of the comments that Mayor Mandami
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: of New York has made, some of these other DSA
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: candidates in particular. This is becoming more of the mainstream position.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: And the reason you.
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: Know that is even the ones who may not agree
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: with it policy-wise or have been traditional friends of Israel—
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: rarely speak out now, right? Think of the silence of
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: a guy like Chuck Schumer, who should be on record saying, no, no, no,
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: this is offensive.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Bernie Sanders, he's Jewish as well.
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: These tropes that are being peddled in the Democratic Party
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: right now used to be things that would get called out. Now,
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: even if you probably don't entirely agree with that, you
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: have to be, you're silenced because you're afraid of stating
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: that position.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that Barack Obama has been
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: now addressing rallies too chipped at Donald Trump. Of all
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the things he said about Donald Trump, it seems that
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: this one is the one that got under his skin.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Have a listen.
• 34:02
  Speaker 15: I don't know if you've noticed, but he seems very
• 34:06
  Speaker 15: focused on home renovations. Guy's building a ballroom that's bigger
• 34:11
  Speaker 15: than the White House. Paved over the Rose Garden, put
• 34:14
  Speaker 15: a helicopter pad on the South Lawn, and there's gold everywhere.
• 34:19
  Speaker 15: What's up with the gold? Everything, more gold. He's got
• 34:24
  Speaker 15: the White House looking like Saddam Hussein opened a cheesecake factory.
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: I've taken care of the White House. I fixed it
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: with the finest artisans in the world. Guys like Obama,
• 34:36
  Speaker 14: they would pass the front door, they'd see the broken windows,
• 34:40
  Speaker 14: masonry that see the broken, the beautiful pilasters that were
• 34:44
  Speaker 14: all broken. For years they were broken and he wouldn't
• 34:48
  Speaker 14: notice because he doesn't notice that. He doesn't notice dirt
• 34:51
  Speaker 14: and filth.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Now, Sean, I've actually slept in one of Saddam Hussein's palaces.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't notice that much gold, to be honest, and
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I thought the workmanship was so shabby. So I think
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: that's a real insult if you think if you're likening
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: what Trump is doing to Saddam Hussein.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Well, you and I share that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: We both spent a night in one of Saddam's palaces,
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: and I'm with you.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: I don't think it was the nicest thing ever.
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: Now, maybe it was rated before I got in there,
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: but it certainly wasn't ornate.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: It wasn't nice.
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: It didn't have any gold in it, as a matter
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: of fact. I've got some pictures to prove it. But
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: the other thing is, and I don't know if the
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: Australian audience got this. But the idea that he was
• 35:28
  Speaker 10: trying to make a reference to the Cheesecake Factory is
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: such an elitist thing. This is where a lot of
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: families save up to spend a good family dinner.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: It's actually, I will.
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: Say that I do love a good Cheesecake Factory. The
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: meals are amazing. The desserts are fantastic. But it's so
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: insulting to hear President Obama snub his nose at that.
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: And the Cheesecake Factory, I don't know that there's a
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: single ounce of gold in the entire place. It was
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: sort of, it just showed and exposed how out of
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: touch these guys are.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. Versailles has got a lot of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: gold in it too. I don't see people knocking the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: design of that. Just quickly, Sean, just very close now
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to this election, how's it looking? You were a bit
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: depressed before. Any chance that the Republicans will hold on
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: to the Senate and the House?
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: So I do this every Tuesday and Wednesday night on
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: my show.
• 36:25
  Speaker 10: Tonight, I actually went through all the governor's races with
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: the chair of the Republican Governor's Association.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Let me start in reverse order. I don't feel great
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: about the House.
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: I'm not a doomsdayer, but I don't feel great about
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: where some of these races are.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: I'm feeling better and better about the Senate. Susan Collins'
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: main is now up in the polls there.
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: There's some very, very bright signs that some of the
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: rallies the president has done, the money is starting to
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: have an effect. So I feel better about the Senate.
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: I think there's a really decent chance We hold the
• 36:52
  Speaker 10: Senate there. And I will tell you one little piece
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: of a nugget for.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: You, Andrew, and your audience. The Democrats technically need four.
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: I believe that if they got to four, which I
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: don't think they'll do, if they did, John Fetterman would
• 37:05
  Speaker 10: become an independent and conference with the Republicans. So stop
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: that one there. And then I had the governor's chairman
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: on tonight. And I actually feel really good about a
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: lot of the governor's races.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: So it depends on where you look. The House doesn't
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: look fantastic. The Senate's OK. The governors look really good.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, John Fetterman's very interesting. He's been very bolshy about
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the direction of the Democrats and some of their policy positions.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: So if he defects, huge. Sean Spicer, thank you so
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: much for your time.
• 37:36
  Speaker 14: You bet.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Just had some news. You know, I said at the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: top of this segment, you know, people are now saying, oh,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Andrew Bolt, you're too woke, you know, something's changed. Well, no,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't changed. Have a look at the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 7: But.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: There's someone else, you know, parts of the right have
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: just splintered out to this conspiracy-minded, weird, tribal outfit. But anyway,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: one of the people also being attacked for being as
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: woke as Get Out is quite a savage campaign to
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  Speaker 1: get her is Chrissy Barrett, the AFP chief commissioner. And
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  Speaker 1: I've spent some time with her privately. She doesn't deserve
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it. I've criticised her to her face
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  Speaker 1: about a couple of mistakes she's made. But she's coming
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  Speaker 1: on the show in a week or so, and let's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: see whether she really is what she deserves. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've heard, you know, she won't go to the Royal
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  Speaker 1: Commission and say what she knows about, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: anti-Semitism and the shooting and all that. She wasn't invited.
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  Speaker 1: As Josh Frydenberg will tell you, if you're not invited,
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  Speaker 1: you can't come, which is supposed to do. A phalanx
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  Speaker 1: of AFP officers bang down the door. I want to
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  Speaker 1: give evidence. It doesn't work that way. That's just one thing.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's gone around in a big meme, but,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Gosh almighty. Anyway, we'll talk to her. Hard
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  Speaker 1: questions as well. And that'll be in the first week
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  Speaker 1: of next month. Coming up after the break, why this
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  Speaker 1: Albanese government minister is the last politician to tell us
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  Speaker 1: not to be mean to politicians. I tell you what,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the tributes in Parliament to
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  Speaker 1: Helen Haynes are moving. A lot of the promises to
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  Speaker 1: be nicer are very welcomed. particularly with Haynes in hospital
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  Speaker 1: having lost her legs in that brutal attack. But I
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  Speaker 1: have to say there are some politicians who, from sheer shame...
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  Speaker 1: should just shut up, especially Finance Minister Katie Gallagher, who's
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  Speaker 1: apparently now an angel of kindness.
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  Speaker 7: I think in the last two years, 18 months to
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  Speaker 7: two years, the political temperature has been significantly elevated, much
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  Speaker 7: hotter than I have ever experienced in my career.
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  Speaker 1: I don't forget. This is the same Katie Gallagher who
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  Speaker 1: the late Labor Senator Kimberley Kitchen called one of Labor's
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  Speaker 1: three mean girls and who bullied former Liberal Defence Minister
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  Speaker 1: Linda Reynolds, falsely suggesting she'd covered up the rape of
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  Speaker 1: Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins. Now, before Gallagher says another word,
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  Speaker 1: let her say sorry for this.
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  Speaker 7: Senator Gallagher, I did answer your questions to the point
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  Speaker 7: that you ground me to the ground and ended up
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  Speaker 7: in hospital.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm back here.
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  Speaker 9: I'm answering questions.
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  Speaker 7: Were you just alleged that we put you in hospital?
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  Speaker 7: That I put you in hospital, Senator Reynolds?
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  Speaker 1: Well, if.
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  Speaker 9: So you're the victim?
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  Speaker 5: Not Ms Higgins, is that what it is?
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  Speaker 2: Order.
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  Speaker 5: Senator Wong, that's not what I'm saying. Nobody takes pleasure
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  Speaker 5: in asking these questions.
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  Speaker 7: Senator Gallagher. Nobody takes pleasure in.
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  Speaker 9: Asking these questions. I'd like to respond to that.
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  Speaker 16: Having two senators yell at me at the same time.
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  Speaker 7: My final question, Senator Reynolds, was it your decision to
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  Speaker 7: send Ms Higgins to Perth for.
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  Speaker 5: The duration of the election campaign?
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  Speaker 8: Senator Gallagher.
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  Speaker 15: Again?
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  Speaker 7: That's also subject to police investigation.
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  Speaker 5: How handy. And that was your final question.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you. Senator Gallagher, that was beneath you.
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  Speaker 7: Well, don't give me a lesson in that.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me are Mia Schlicht, Executive Director of the Samuel
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  Speaker 1: Griffith Society, and Michael Damby, former Federal Labor politician and
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  Speaker 1: former Chairman of the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs,
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  Speaker 1: Defence and Trade... Michael Danby, when you see that, do
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  Speaker 1: you think Katie Gallagher is the kind of person who
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  Speaker 1: really should be lecturing everyone else now about being nicer?
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  Speaker 3: They're grim socialist laparachics, the both of them, Wong and Gallagher.
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  Speaker 9: If they didn't have their arm.
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  Speaker 3: In corner at the ABC and The Guardian to protect them,
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  Speaker 3: they might have been driven from public life by that
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  Speaker 3: Higgins saga, both over Reynolds and and particularly over what
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  Speaker 3: Wong did to Kitching. Imagine a man, Mia, had said
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  Speaker 3: to a woman, you can't speak on climate change because
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  Speaker 3: you don't have children. It was lucky for Wong, it
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  Speaker 3: was just before the election, because I believe even she
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  Speaker 3: and even the Labor Party would have launched an inquiry
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  Speaker 3: into her. As it is, she got away scot-free, but
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  Speaker 3: she contributed greatly to Kimberley's stress.
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  Speaker 9: As you know, Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that she contributed to the death. I
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  Speaker 1: do know that Kimberly... I didn't say to the death.
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  Speaker 1: I said to her stress. Oh, without a doubt. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, she was at my house a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days before her death and spoke of the stress
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  Speaker 1: she was under from... I won't go further. Let's all
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  Speaker 1: be nice. But, Mia, what did you make of this
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  Speaker 1: bracing lecture of niceness from Katie Gallagher?
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  Speaker 16: I find it really frustrating, Andrew. I cannot stand when
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  Speaker 16: a political tragedy like this occurs that we've seen with
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  Speaker 16: Helen Haynes and you've got individuals who use the opportunity
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  Speaker 16: to get up on a soapbox and start preaching a
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  Speaker 16: certain political issue, particularly when somebody like Katie Gallagher has
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  Speaker 16: remained so silent. in so many really critical times when
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  Speaker 16: many women across the political spectrum have been victims of violence.
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  Speaker 16: I find her silence remarkable when the ABC, the nationally
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  Speaker 16: funded broadcaster, produced that segment of Gina Reinhart threats about
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  Speaker 16: her being very violently assaulted. And of course, there was
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  Speaker 16: no commentary from Katie Gallagher then about violence against women.
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  Speaker 16: So I find it frustrating when an opportunity like this
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  Speaker 16: is used to then start talking about those issues when
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  Speaker 16: it's only some kind of women who are afforded that
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  Speaker 16: protection and other women who sit on another side of
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  Speaker 16: the political spectrum. Well, we're never spoken about needing to
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  Speaker 16: be protected from such violence.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I can't believe how few of those Labor women
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  Speaker 1: spoke up, when they should have, about that disgusting, filthy
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  Speaker 1: attack on the ABC on Gina Reinhart. That was a
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: moment where they just showed they're not for a principal,
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  Speaker 1: they're for a tribe, right? Talking about people who are
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  Speaker 1: giving lectures who shouldn't, and literally so, Michael, the University
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  Speaker 1: of Sydney had to apologise, as you know, for showing
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  Speaker 1: so little empathy to student... Jewish students being harassed. It's now, though,
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  Speaker 1: appointed former New Zealand Labor Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to
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  Speaker 1: lecture on, and I quote, empathetic leadership, as well as
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  Speaker 1: global health challenges and social cohesion. Now, seriously, Jacinda Ardern
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  Speaker 1: on empathetic leadership when she locked up New Zealanders during
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the COVID panic, and shouldn't it the university actually hire
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  Speaker 1: an expert for its students, not in empathetic leadership, but
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  Speaker 1: effective leadership, given Ardern left a party a wreck and
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  Speaker 1: a country an economic mess.
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  Speaker 3: Well, she had to flee to Australia because she's so
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  Speaker 3: unpopular in New Zealand. It all goes one way with
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  Speaker 3: Mark Scott, doesn't it? He's the man who presided over
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  Speaker 3: the ABC as it did its far-left turn. He's the
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  Speaker 3: man who presided over Q & A week after week
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  Speaker 3: after week having that incredible bias that it did. He's
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: the man who, as you pointed out just before, did
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  Speaker 3: so little during the three years with those engagements of
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  Speaker 3: the pro-Palestinian students barring Jewish students from going to lectures.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, really, all goes one way with Mark Scott.
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  Speaker 9: Who would be surprised?
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  Speaker 3: But the question the taxpayer should ask is, why does
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: he earn double what the Prime Minister earns?
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  Speaker 1: Yep, well, Mark Scott being the Vice-Chancellor there, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's got big questions to answer about the university under him,
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  Speaker 1: the atmosphere there. Mia, and also Jacinda Ardern, another left-wing politician, failed.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a university looking after its own.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's not surprising, Andrew, and we wonder why attendance
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  Speaker 16: at university is so low. Well, because students simply don't
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  Speaker 16: want to turn out to listen to leaders like this,
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  Speaker 16: particularly lecturing on things like empathetic leadership, when I'm not
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  Speaker 16: sure how empathetic it was for Jacinta Ardern to leave
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  Speaker 16: her country in absolute rubble and jump on the first
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  Speaker 16: plane out of there. or when she increased government spending
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  Speaker 16: so much that inflation increased and families had to make
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  Speaker 16: serious economic sacrifices. Or let's not forget the Royal Commission
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  Speaker 16: into how she dealt with COVID in the country and
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  Speaker 16: how it found that she didn't follow all measures accurately
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  Speaker 16: and there were better things she could have done. There
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  Speaker 16: was no apology that was made for that. But, of course,
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  Speaker 16: she jumps on the first flight out of there. But
• 46:20
  Speaker 16: let's not forget Jacinta Ardern is the darling of the
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  Speaker 16: globalist left, and this is what they do. They get
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  Speaker 16: out of their country's... at the first chance they can
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  Speaker 16: to try and head off to a job in the UN.
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  Speaker 16: And I'm sure that's what she's vowing for in the future.
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  Speaker 16: But for now, one of our universities here in Australia
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  Speaker 16: will do.
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  Speaker 1: And to the New Zealanders who so outrageously contacted me,
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  Speaker 1: demanding we say something about this, consider it said. Michael Danby,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the Israeli election tonight, what are you expecting?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I hope for the Israelis' sake that there is
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  Speaker 3: a national unity government between the moderate elements of Likud
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: and the moderate elements of the centre-left, that would be
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: much better for their international standing. But look for the success, Andrew,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: of the Russian party led by Avigdor Liberman and by
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Einat Wilf and the other centrists in the reservist party.
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  Speaker 3: If they do well, if they get above the quota,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: particularly the reservists, there'll be a swing factor in what
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: the new government is composed of.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Mia, what are you hoping for from Israel?
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  Speaker 16: I'll have to wait and see for the result, Andrew,
• 47:29
  Speaker 16: but I think, make no mistake, Netanyahu shouldn't be underestimated.
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  Speaker 16: He's somewhat of a political mastermind and has been able
• 47:34
  Speaker 16: to pull a rabbit out of a bag many times
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  Speaker 16: in the past. But I think, make no mistake, this
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  Speaker 16: is a referendum on Netanyahu's leadership. I think if he
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  Speaker 16: wins this election, this will be a vote of confidence
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  Speaker 16: for the way he has brought the country forward since
• 47:48
  Speaker 16: October 7th in 2023. And if he loses, then that
• 47:51
  Speaker 16: is a vote of no confidence in his leadership. But
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  Speaker 16: I think this election is all about Netanyahu.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, Michael, one of the factors is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when Mia talks about a referendum, it's also a referendum
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  Speaker 1: on the fact that October 7 happened on his watch. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And there are a lot of people who are good
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  Speaker 3: right-wingers who think that that is something that should have
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  Speaker 3: been a State Commission of Inquiry. And the other big issue,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: which I have to praise SBS, unlike the dolts at
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: the ABC, that looked into was the... that the orthodox,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: the ultra-orthodox should do military service like all of the others,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: particularly after three years with all of their children going
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: to the reserves and that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of Israeli mothers.
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  Speaker 3: And parents are very agitated about that.
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  Speaker 1: And so they should be. Mia Schlith, Michael Damby, thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much to you both. Up next, Shari Markson
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  Speaker 1: from me. Good night.