Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / Sen. Rand Paul DODGES question on Trump Covid criticism, pivots to Fauci 'ARROGANCE'
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Senator certainly, though there were many Walter journal boards were
- 0:02Speaker 1: included who thought that was an opportunity that hearing to
- 0:04Speaker 1: get more answers in it instead devolved into what it was.
- 0:08Speaker 1: But one of your criticisms of doctor Fauci is that,
- 0:10Speaker 1: in your estimation he said one thing publicly where he
- 0:14Speaker 1: sort of downplayed the virus, and one thing privately where
- 0:16Speaker 1: he acknowledged, you know, its seriousness. Well, President Trump did
- 0:20Speaker 1: the exact same thing that he told the American people
- 0:23Speaker 1: there January February March twenty twenty, that this was something
- 0:26Speaker 1: that would blow over while we know because he had
- 0:28Speaker 1: transcripts and audio recordings with calls with Bob Woodward, the journalist,
- 0:32Speaker 1: where he said to mister Woodward, this is far more serious.
- 0:35Speaker 1: So does President Trump deserve that same level of scrutiny
- 0:37Speaker 1: as you want doctor Fauchi to face.
- 0:40Speaker 2: You know, I think the main culpability of doctor Fauci
- 0:43Speaker 2: is that he advocated for a decade before this the
- 0:47Speaker 2: funding of these labs. He funded a lab in the
- 0:49Speaker 2: Netherlands that mutated the Avian flu and made it more dangerous.
- 0:53Speaker 2: The whole scientific community, led by a scientist at MIT,
- 0:57Speaker 2: set up this Cambridge Working Group and we're very very
- 0:59Speaker 2: critic said it shouldn't have been funded and it shouldn't
- 1:02Speaker 2: have been published. There are people who are non partisan.
- 1:05Speaker 2: There's a Stanford professor by the name of David Relman
- 1:08Speaker 2: who advises government, is very knowledgeable in these affairs and
- 1:13Speaker 2: said that the research in the Netherlands on the Avian
- 1:15Speaker 2: involution should have never occurred. So he has made mistake
- 1:18Speaker 2: after a mistake, and the idea or the decision to
- 1:22Speaker 2: fund this dangerous research in China I think maybe one
- 1:25Speaker 2: of the worst, if not the worst medical public health
- 1:28Speaker 2: decision in a lifetime.
- 1:30Speaker 1: We'll say there along that line. Then, in your argument,
- 1:32Speaker 1: should everyone involved with this sort of research, of s
- 1:34Speaker 1: gain of function research? Should they all all these people
- 1:38Speaker 1: face potential criminal investigation.
- 1:41Speaker 2: I think they should all apologize, and I think they
- 1:45Speaker 2: all are culpable in many ways, maybe not legally. For example,
- 1:50Speaker 2: the research project from twenty eighteen called Defuse. Deef Use
- 1:55Speaker 2: was to take a coronavirus and insert a fear in
- 1:58Speaker 2: cleavage site that is very similar to what COVID looks like.
- 2:02Speaker 2: That was to be funded by our government.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Never was.
- 2:05Speaker 2: But when COVID came out and they saw the structure
- 2:07Speaker 2: of COVID. They should have said, oh my goodness, this
- 2:10Speaker 2: is just like the research project that we looked at
- 2:13Speaker 2: and rejected because it was too dangerous two years ago.
- 2:15Speaker 2: No one said a word. There's got to be one
- 2:18Speaker 2: hundred and fifty people that were in different meetings that
- 2:21Speaker 2: knew about this. Ralph Barrett knew about it. He was
- 2:24Speaker 2: a lead investigator. He says he never told Fauci. Fauci
- 2:28Speaker 2: says he never received this. They all had to know.
- 2:31Speaker 2: But Fauci also knew that he had been funding the lab.
- 2:34Speaker 2: One of the first emails he gets from his assistant
- 2:36Speaker 2: in January twenty twenty is an email that says gain
- 2:39Speaker 2: to Function research in Wuhan. They were labeling it that way.
- 2:43Speaker 2: EcoHealth that was getting the money from nih and sending
- 2:46Speaker 2: it to Wuhan. They put in one of their letters
- 2:49Speaker 2: when their funding started up again, thank you for restarting
- 2:52Speaker 2: our gain of function research. They were all calling at that.
- 2:56Speaker 2: So the level of dishonesty here is astonishing, but it was.
- 3:00Speaker 2: There's a mistake. It was because Fauci had a conflict
- 3:03Speaker 2: of interest. His conflict of interest is he knew he
- 3:05Speaker 2: funded this, and he knew if it came from the lab,
- 3:08Speaker 2: that there would be a culpability attached. So he argued
- 3:10Speaker 2: for the natural origin, not because he objectively thought so,
- 3:14Speaker 2: but it was better for him the cent.
- 3:17Speaker 3: I guess the bigger question a lot of people have
- 3:18Speaker 3: as they listen to this debate, in this conversation, is
- 3:20Speaker 3: are you suggesting something nefarious from doctor Anthony Fauci. There
- 3:25Speaker 3: were things that made a lot of us mad and
- 3:27Speaker 3: in hindsight make us even more mad. That schools were
- 3:30Speaker 3: closed too long, that six feet apart may have been
- 3:33Speaker 3: some kind of arbitrary number. That little kids didn't need
- 3:35Speaker 3: to wear two masks to go to the playground. But
- 3:38Speaker 3: all of that is after the fact, in the fog
- 3:40Speaker 3: of war. Are you suggesting that doctor Fauci made mistakes,
- 3:44Speaker 3: which I'm sure he would concede he did, or that
- 3:46Speaker 3: there's something nefarious behind his actions.
- 3:50Speaker 1: I would say it's wrong headed.
- 3:51Speaker 2: I'm not sure I would use the words nefarious. I
- 3:53Speaker 2: would say that he is of the belief that the
- 3:56Speaker 2: common man can't handle the truth and that people like
- 3:59Speaker 2: him who are the science, the elite, and the experts,
- 4:02Speaker 2: should make decisions. So many of his decisions about mask
- 4:06Speaker 2: he originally said you didn't need to wear them, which
- 4:08Speaker 2: is probably the bulk of the truth from most of
- 4:10Speaker 2: the studies. Cochran Analysis looked at seventy eight different studies
- 4:14Speaker 2: in a meta study and that's what their conclusion was.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But when he told us that, he also then explained
- 4:19Speaker 2: why he said mask don't work. So there was a shortage,
- 4:22Speaker 2: and I was just telling people that because it was
- 4:24Speaker 2: a practical way of saving them for the doctors. So
- 4:27Speaker 2: he was telling us nobles platonic lives because he's one
- 4:31Speaker 2: of the philosopher kings. So it really is about an attitude.
- 4:34Speaker 2: But it isn't arrogance, and it isn't arrogance that shouldn't
- 4:37Speaker 2: go unchallenged.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Surely, though there are many who filled doctor Fraucci to
- 4:41Speaker 1: vote in decades of his life's public service and public
- 4:45Speaker 1: health
- 5:00Speaker 2: S