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Counting Crows · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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  band. That's right, we've done all the
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  work for you and all you have to do is push play.
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  My name is Justin and you could call me band Curious because I
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  am indeed curious about bands and I like to have my friends on
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  to talk about said bands. And in the process of this
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  conversation, we'll come up with a top 10 starter kit list for
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  you in case you have never given these bands the time of day.
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  And round here we like to cover lots of different bands.
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  And sometimes it it, it, I don't want to say shocks you who makes
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  appearances on these, but you know, you've been doing a lot
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  better at this. Well, let me first say this.
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  We're talking about Counting Crows today.
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  But John, this one is you. You've kind of been constrained
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  to like the the punk wheelhouse thing.
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  You've done like a couple things in and out of it.
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  But you're the lead man on this. Like that, I think is what
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  shocks me about us doing Counting Crows today.
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  So talk to me about Counting Crows.
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  Yeah, like, I first of all, I was surprised that it hadn't
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  already been done. But then, yeah.
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  Secondly, like Counting Crows is something that I remember from
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  when I was like a young teenager, like even before I got
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  into punk rock, you know, that this came out in like, I think
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  the first stop was 1993. I was probably 14, maybe 15
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  years old and you know, at this had this hit song like MTV, the,
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  you know, the stereotypical thing that we all did in the
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  early 90s. So I had the CD August and
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  everything after and I remember liking it.
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  But then, you know, soon after I discovered Fugazi and punk rock
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  and all that other stuff was like thrown in the thrown to the
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  side like Counting Crows are lame.
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  Who cares? But then, you know, in the last
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  maybe 5, maybe 10 years, there's been like a resurgence of like,
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  hey, maybe this was better than we thought it was.
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  And you can look and like, there's been a like some pretty
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  respected names have been like, yeah, like Counting Crows were
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  were not bad. Like, you would have have seen
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  people. Oh, you know, you know, you
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  would categorize them as like, Americana or roots rock if they
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  came out now. And like, it came out that Adam
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  Duritz has, like, this condition where he, like, can't empathize
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  with people. I didn't actually look it up.
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  I probably should have. But he, like, detaches from his,
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  from himself and, like, sees himself in the third person.
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  Like, it gave some context to all these songs about loneliness
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  and, like, trying to find yourself and like growing up and
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  a lot of it. Yeah.
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  I think I, you know, you going back and revisiting it, a lot of
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  it was like better than I thought.
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  And I, you know, I dumped a bunch of stuff when we started
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  this in the in the discord, like a bunch of covers of people
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  like, you know, like respected people like Frank Turner loves
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  the Counting Crows, like toured with them.
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  Gaslight Anthem, Brian Fallon toured with them, like covered
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  their songs. There's a hardcore band called
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  Touché Amore that has a lyric like round here is an almost
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  perfect song, the whole steady covered long December and Jay
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  Lenderman, who's like a big right now in the underground
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  covered long December. So like they've gotten this
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  respect from a lot of like the underground community and like,
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  I can't even imagine like Adam Durst thought that this would
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  ever happen when they were playing state fairs 15 years
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  ago. But it's it's interesting and
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  like you compare them to like a band like Weezer, right?
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  And they came out around the same time.
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  They're from Los Angeles, from the same place on the same
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  record label. And they were both kind of like
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  out of time for the time period. Like this very heavy grunge,
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  Hard Rock, you know, music like Weezer playing this power pop,
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  Counting Crows doing this like very 70s, you know, Americana,
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  you know, thing. And like they, you know, Weezer
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  had their second album. They've both first albums were
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  huge, but Weezer had the second album that well, both both bands
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  had the second album, the tank. They tried to do something
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  different. But you know, Pinkerton had this
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  kind of critical resurgence shortly after it was released
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  and people were like, Oh, wait, this is actually kind of
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  brilliant. And Counting Crows never got
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  that. They, even though their second
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  album, I think is like it hits on a lot of the same themes and
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  it's a little more hard rocking. It's, I think they just, it just
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  never got that. I think it's interesting like
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  compare like their careers, you know, and Weezer has built this
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  career on. They can still sell out arenas
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  and whatever, but it's, it's interesting.
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  Counting Crows. Yeah.
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  Like going back on it. I, I was surprised.
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  I, I, you know, count myself and that and that crew of people,
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  that they gave them a second chance and realized it was
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  better than we thought it was. So this is we, we joke about
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  this all the time with you, Christian.
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  This, this kind of seems to be your place on deprogrammed of
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  kind of revisiting these 90s bands.
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  I mean, is this, is this band specifically purposeful or is
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  this just a band that was always with you and it just happens to
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  be we're revisiting them? Yeah, I was going to say it's
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  another band for the running joke of me doing bands that had
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  a massive album and then got had a massive critical backlash.
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  Yeah, no, same as John. I'm surprised that they hadn't
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  been done because they seemed to be for me.
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  They're, they're a very big name associated with the certainly
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  the early 90s. Yeah.
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  I've usually got like a quite a long, elaborate story about how
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  I got into the band, but there isn't 1 here really.
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  I I assumed that Mister Jones was the song that John was
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  referring to in terms of seeing it on MTV.
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  And that was like many people, probably the first foray in and
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  it hit a wheelhouse that I've talked about before on episodes
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  around, you know, around this time around the early 90s, I was
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  very much coming out of metal, but still into like grunge and
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  other punk rock and stuff. It was very, I was very heavy
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  orientated, but I had this kind of little compartment of my
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  musical brain that loved bands like Hootie and the Blowfish,
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  Jim Blossoms. I kind of, I, I sort of
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  categorized them in that kind of even even kind of R.E.M.
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  Because I got into like later R.E.M. first, I got into R.E.M.
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  around Out of Time and Automatic for the People and then went
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  back and got into sort of more of their sort of more kind of
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  punk adjacent stuff. But yeah, they just they just
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  hit that wheelhouse with me. As I say, love Mr. Jones somehow
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  got got hold of the album, can't remember how, loved the album.
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  And then my housemate in university got the second album
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  and used to play it Alex who I've mentioned it before and I
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  love that as well. And then I literally just
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  dropped off. I don't know what happened.
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  It was I loved the first album. I loved the second album.
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  And then as you often do, I just, I just moved on.
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  So it was good to, I, I think I bought hard candy on cassette
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  when I was travelling in Asia where cassettes were
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  ridiculously cheap at the time. And it was, it sort of sat in my
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  box and I, I never really don't think I ever took the cellophane
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  off and never got, never listened to it.
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  So yeah, it was good to just pick up and and and do do that
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  journey onwards from the first two albums that I kind of never
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  did back in the day. So, Gavin, I feel like we roped
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  you in this one after Husker do. But we didn't have to rope you
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  too hard, so there must have been something there with
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  Counting Crows. What?
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  What makes you go after us doing Husker do?
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  You going? Yeah, I'll do Counting Crows.
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  Yeah, thanks. It's good to be here.
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  This is AI like there's a good panel to be on with you guys.
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  Like this panel. Yeah, I guess like normally this
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  would be none of my business. You know, I'm not really like
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  into any kind of like mainstream rock or whatever.
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  I never have been. But there was a couple songs
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  early. So I was 23 when this came out.
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  When August came out, there was a few songs that got on my radar
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  that I really loved, but I just wasn't really like tracking this
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  band or paying attention to them.
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  And then I don't know, maybe what John was talking about.
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  Kind of like their name sort of coming back into the zeitgeist
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  and stuff. IA couple years ago I bought
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  August and everything after and I never listened to it and I
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  really loved it. I don't know, before I said I'd
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  do this, I didn't know any of the other records.
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  I do kind of like Christian really kind of have a like, I
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  really like to more in the 80s and new wave situation.
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  I really like to champion maligned bands that that people
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  misunderstand. And I'd like to say like, wait a
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  minute, there's more. There's more here than that one
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  goofy song they did or whatever, you know what I mean?
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  I think that there's something in their DNA like a sadness that
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  is in a lot of the music that I love.
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  So I think they share like a quality with some of the best
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  like alternative weird music. And so I wanted to explore that
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  more. So happy to be here.
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  That. Venn Diagram.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that is the thing that I
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  found doing this is there's this sadness that that permeates the
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  band and it, it doesn't like overtake like it doesn't it, it,
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  you don't feel necessarily just sad when you listen to this
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  band, but like there is a general feeling of there's,
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  there's something here and that does kind of conjoin it to, you
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  know, easiest, you know, correlation to me is Smashing
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  Pumpkins because there is something sad about the Pumpkins
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  that that draws me to them. And I, I have nothing with this
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  band other than I feel like probably somewhere around where
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  you guys are talking about where they're coming back into the
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  zeitgeist. A friend of mine whose most
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  recent episode was Lemon Twigs, James Duvall, used to joke about
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  how much I look like Adam, Like that was his big joke.
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  He would post these pictures of Counting Crows playing and go,
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  what are you doing playing for Counting Crows, Justin?
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  So that was his big joke. And so there was that.
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  And you know the obvious. I remember like a good handful
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  of the songs from the radio and I, I never disliked this band.
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  As a matter of fact, I, I liked all the singles, just never
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  enough to go. Yeah, man, I I'd love to, like,
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  figure out what the fuck's going on here with these albums.
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  You know, it just, it was never. I mean, I guess to be fair, when
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  Mr. Jones hit, I was too young to like be able to make that
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  conscious decision of, you know, I, I want that.
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  My parents were still kind of, I mean, I wasn't, but I here's
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  something I don't talk about a lot.
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  I didn't really start making my own musical decisions until
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  probably about 15 or 16 as opposed to like I started
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  separating at 13. And I guess this is a layer to
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  the kind of the same thing of Counting Crows seems like until
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  now, my mom's band, even though she was never really into them,
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  like they seem like they should have been my mom's man.
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  My mom was like way into the like those early 90s bands that
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  kind of live in that, you know, almost Americana type stuff,
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  like what Soul Asylum, you know, isn't quite that.
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  But like those kind of bands, you know, like those ones that
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  hit in in the early 90s that aren't, you know, Nirvana
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  Pumpkins, like so like, I think, you know, as I'm, as I'm saying
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  it into a microphone, I'm, I'm thinking that that is the tie or
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  that is the disconnect of as to why I never, I never made that
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  dive. And thank thank goodness for the
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  show, because, you know, now I know that the Counting Crows are
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  a good band. Like my instinct on their
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  singles was right. They're a good band.
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  I should have, I should have made the dive.
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  Like, are they a Justin band? You know, not necessarily.
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  Are they a band that I'm probably going to return to a
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  lot? Probably not.
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  But like it is nice to know that there's much more to them than
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  Mr. Jones. To that point.
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  What do we have here, like 60 songs, John, Like it.
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  It isn't like a ton of work that we had to parse through, but
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  like when you start putting together 20 songs for this, like
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  what are you looking at to to bring to the table?
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  Yeah, like this one would be really easy to front load,
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  right? Because it's it's one of those
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  where, you know, the first album is the one that that got all the
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  acclaim. But yeah, it's just a matter of
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  of, you know, going through recovering the satellites and
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  going through the the last one that we've included, I think the
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  the one that just came out last year.
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  Just, you know, listening to everything and comparing and
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  see, like for me it was like what can compare to the first
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  record and what holds up? Like what lyrically is is more,
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  you know, meaningful, more more deep something that something
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  that's not just, you know, like bands like this, they tend to
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  like, get real superficial with like you over.
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  We're singing about being rock stars and we're, you know, being
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  famous and all that stuff. I have no time for that.
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  But just, yeah, things like looking for the songs that were
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  a little like a little deeper, a little that hit a little harder
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  and more emotional. So was able to find a few of
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  them, still probably a little more front loaded than I would
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  have liked to have been, but that that was always going to
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  happen. Yeah, Christian, you and I were
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  kind of going back and forth because we were the last two to
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  finish our list, like about the last handful of cuts when when
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  you're putting it together and when you're getting to those
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  last little cuts, like what are you looking at?
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  What's kind of separating itself?
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  Yeah, same as John it was. And again, it's a natural kind
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  of consequence of I mentioned it, the old where I where I
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  jumped off, which was after the second record.
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  So it's exactly the same, a real conscious effort to try and not
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  be too front loaded. But I still am.
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  But I did find some other stuff. I think.
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  Yeah, I did find this particularly difficult to make
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  those last few cuts because I think I said in the chat, it's
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  like throwing away a favorite teddy bear or something with
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  some of the some of the songs and some of the songs that below
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  my lap, my cut line, I'm looking at going how are they not in?
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  But that just goes to the to the quality of quality of the band,
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  I think. So yeah, that that was kind of
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  like my tiebreaker at the end. So I I got to 25 and got really
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  stuck. And then what I did was put more
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  weight on cutting something from the 1st 2 records because
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  otherwise it would have been too, too, too skewed.
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  So yeah, I, I didn't, I didn't manage to bring something from
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  every album. I will say that now obviously I
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  won't say, I won't say which one, but there's one album that
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  I don't have anything from, but I do have something from 4 out
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  of the five there. You go, Gavin, you know, I kind
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  of briefly chatted about this like when we first started got
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  getting going and it sounds like familiar familiarly like the the
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  guys just said kind of what we're saying like the meat isn't
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  in them first too. So is is that where you kind of
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  primarily resided or how did you weigh it out?
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  Yeah, for me, I mean, I think that this is one of those bands
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  where just lightning really struck on that first record.
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  Like it's kind of supernaturally just this really special
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  confluence of talent and circumstances or something
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  desperation, hunger, maybe youth, whatever.
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  And like, it's just so you just can't deny.
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  Like there's something really magical and then a lot of bands
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  try to recapture that and they just can't, you know, I, I, John
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  put together a good list. So we did.
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  So we covered 5 records. We skipped their records from
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  2008, 2012, 2014. So for people that love those
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  records, we just don't. We skipped 3 records and then
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  John threw in a couple interesting rarities from 94 in
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  between the 1st 2 records. I, I, I did album
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  representation. I have stuff off all the records
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  but I'm super front loaded for sure.
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  I you know, the good news is that it sounds like we all kind
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  of had the same journey. I think it's going to make for
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  some messy gameplay, but we'll get to that.
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  I you can't escape to me like those first two are just they
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  are just head and shoulders above the rest.
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  Like I I was able to find stuff from the other ones that we
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  covered. So I had again, like Gavin was
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  saying, I have something from everything, you know, I figured
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  out ways to to get it. But like, there were undeniable
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  songs that got denied by me. Like, yeah.
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  Like I had to deny undeniable songs because, well, because
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  like the the spirit of the show, like kind of trying to.
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  Tell people that this is also that.
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  So you're not just thinking of that.
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  You know, maybe I'm kind of tipping my hand a little bit,
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  but we'll get to that part again.
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  But like, I, I this, this band is way better than than I
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  thought they were going to be. And you know, as you're
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  listening to that first record, like there's songs that that
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  make it like initially. And then when you're coming back
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  around, it's like, Oh my God, am I cutting that?
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  Yeah. Oh, I get.
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  I guess. So like, and I felt the same way
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  about the second record. I was like, I'm cutting some
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  songs that I feel like at least the belong in this conversation.
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  So that's that's wild. And that was like the real,
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  again, kind of mirroring what Christian said.
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  That was like the real heavy part of my last handful of cuts
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  of just what are they like, you know, which which of these songs
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  are going to have to, you know, go.
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  I feel like this could easily, we could between the four of us
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  cover all 60 songs or close to it and it it wouldn't shock me.
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  I doubt that happens. But I for sure could see us
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  emptying out the 1st 2 records between the four of us.
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  So to that point, John, the math, I mean the math works to
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  something high, but it it feels like it could easily just get
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  away from us. What do you think for the final
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  say? Oh yeah.
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  Well, like I think, you know, I mentioned this last time Gavin
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  and I did one that we like a lot of the same things, but we come
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  at it from different angles. So a lot of times we don't meet
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  up. So I'm not.
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  And with four people, I'm, I don't think there's going to be,
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  I'm only going to say 3. OK, Yeah, that that sounds about
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  right. What do you think, Christian?
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  Can we beat 3? Yeah, I I get where you're
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  coming from because it sounds like we'll all be fishing in the
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  same pond. But there's there's every chance
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  that the ones that that it's that the handful of songs from
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  the first record, the handful of songs for the second record that
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  we've left left off, none of that overlaps very much.
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  So it could go either way. But I came into this with a
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  positive mindset. So I think I'm going to go the
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  highest I've ever gone and I'm going to go 8.
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  Oh I fucking love. That we could hit it, you never
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  know. Well, yeah, this this really
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  could go either way because like, we may have attacked the
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  first record with the same mindset and end up with with a
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  lot of the same songs. Who knows?
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  Well we we we hit 10 I think on Hootie and the Blowfish, so why
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  not? Yeah, that's true.
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  What do you think, Gavin? We've got like quite the quite
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  the part there, 3:00 and 8:00. Yeah, yeah, I I think that we're
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  going to hit a lot off the 1st 2, so I'm going to go one under
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  Christian and take 7 Christian. Sometimes it can be a spoiler,
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  though. And like the big singles, he
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  he'll, he'll just say like no, like we're not taking that.
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  So we'll see. Yeah, I mean, hint, hint.
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  I might be that this time. Who knows?
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  We'll see. I'm going to go.
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  It's it's available. I'm going to take right down the
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  middle. I'm going to take 5 just because
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  it's right there in the middle and it's available and it rarely
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  ever is. So I'm going to take it.
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  And I think there might be songs that I feel like I could
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  actually stump 4 for number 10 if if I do happen to win it.
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  So we're going to take a quick pause.
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  And on the other side of it, we're going to play the game.
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  It's the program, Jack. And with that, the name of the
• 23:58
  game is deprogrammed. The four of us have come through
• 24:01
  a selection of the Counting Crows discography and plucked
• 24:04
  out 20 songs that are now going to mash together in an attempt
• 24:06
  to create a top ten circuit for you.
• 24:08
  In case you have never given Counting Crows the time of day,
• 24:14
  I don't know where I want to go to start.
• 24:18
  Do I go with the the moment I realized that there is something
• 24:24
  very Justin about this band. Like they they kind of hit on a
• 24:28
  really Justin sound. Do I go with a song that I
• 24:31
  completely forgot about? Do I go deep into the first
• 24:35
  record? I think I'm going to go with the
• 24:38
  one that I that has lived in the very back of my brain forever.
• 24:45
  And when it came up, I was shocked.
• 24:48
  And this is how, you know, I have no game plan today.
• 24:52
  I'm going to go with Einstein on the Beach.
• 24:57
  Yeah. No, I don't have it.
• 25:02
  OK. So I was going to play this one
• 25:07
  first that you just stole it from.
• 25:09
  Me. I want to talk about the the 90s
• 25:12
  as like the greatest time for compilation CDs.
• 25:16
  The song was on DGC Rarities Volume 1, which then there never
• 25:21
  was a volume to, not that I know of, but it was like unreleased
• 25:24
  songs from like Nirvana, Sonic Youth, Beck, like that dog was
• 25:30
  on there. That dog's amazing.
• 25:31
  We should do them at some point. But then it also had, which I
• 25:35
  talked about earlier, Weezer doing maybe their Best Song,
• 25:38
  Jamie, and it had this song by Counting Crows, which is maybe
• 25:41
  the best Counting Crows song. And you're like, I think I've
• 25:45
  someone some reviews was like, how did they not have room to
• 25:48
  fit their Best Song on the on the record?
• 25:51
  Like this is an outtake from are you kidding me?
• 25:54
  Like, yeah, absolutely. It's their it's their Best Song.
• 25:57
  I I feel like it got radio play here.
• 26:01
  Like I remember hearing it on the radio and then it just
• 26:05
  disappeared off the face of the planet.
• 26:07
  And I never thought about digging it up and, and
• 26:11
  scratching that itch. In the second it came on, I was
• 26:15
  like, oh, this fucking song. And I was like, Oh my God, I
• 26:21
  love it. Oh my God, I forgot how much I
• 26:24
  love it. And then like, as I kept going
• 26:26
  around for cuts, I'm like, yeah, Nah, man, I I need to have this
• 26:31
  one. So all right, hit on something
• 26:34
  there. We'll take a three there again.
• 26:36
  You know it. It feels like threes are going
• 26:39
  to be pretty golden here, so we'll see.
• 26:42
  John All. Right.
• 26:45
  I'm going to do maybe a barometer check here.
• 26:49
  I'm going to go for one that I don't expect to to get a high
• 26:52
  number, but it has a good story. When I kind of rediscover this
• 26:56
  album a few years ago, I unlocked a memory of, you know,
• 27:01
  being 14 years old and listening to this song and it being like
• 27:07
  01 of the first songs I remember being like, oh, this is
• 27:10
  something very adult. Like there's something like very
• 27:13
  grown up about this. Like, cause a lot of the songs
• 27:16
  you listen to when you're, when you're a kid, when you're like
• 27:18
  an adolescent, you're like, there's songs about angst and
• 27:22
  like, you know, first love and crushes and all that stuff.
• 27:25
  But this song, I remember thinking like, oh, there's
• 27:29
  there's something very grown up about the song.
• 27:31
  And like the other one was Black by by Pearl Jam.
• 27:34
  Which I think I. Love another song that I like.
• 27:36
  Like, you listen to that and you're like, oh, there's
• 27:38
  something very adult happening here.
• 27:39
  Like, I don't really understand what's going on, but think some
• 27:44
  like, these are very adult problems that this person is
• 27:46
  thinking about. And the song is raining in
• 27:50
  Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, totally.
• 27:55
  I got it. That wasn't one of my teddy
• 27:59
  bears. I threw away.
• 28:04
  I completely honestly, it hurts so badly that that went I
• 28:09
  completely get you, but it slipped out.
• 28:13
  That that right there is going to be the crux of everything
• 28:16
  that happens today, I feel like. That goes my.
• 28:23
  Everybody's going to have that reaction.
• 28:25
  Yeah. Did we get 3 on that one?
• 28:27
  Yeah, that's a three. OK.
• 28:30
  Cool. All right, Christian.
• 28:34
  Been so Gavin called it right. I've been the spoiler on the 1st
• 28:37
  2 for two on spoilers. All right, OK, yeah, I don't
• 28:43
  want to play anything obvious either, but I'm going to stay
• 28:47
  within my comfort zone and play something from the second
• 28:51
  record. And I think John alluded to
• 28:57
  earlier on that they have a a rocky aside and this is a proper
• 29:02
  rocker, a real banger in the conversation for my favorite
• 29:06
  Counting Crows song, Angels of the Silences.
• 29:09
  Yeah, man. Yeah.
• 29:16
  That was actually the other one I was I was considering leading
• 29:18
  off with the one that kind of lives in the the Justin zone.
• 29:24
  Hold on. Yeah, it's awesome.
• 29:26
  It's up. It's it's up tempo.
• 29:27
  It's a rocker, but it's melodic as well.
• 29:30
  It's Yeah. As I say, it's in the
• 29:31
  conversation for my favorite. Boom, love that, but it again,
• 29:37
  like it. It's interesting that like I
• 29:39
  never discredited. I never got into Gin Blossoms,
• 29:43
  but I never discredited them. And yet Counting Crows has that
• 29:48
  right here with this song that kind of lives in that same
• 29:51
  space. And I didn't, not only did I not
• 29:55
  know, but I completely discredited this band.
• 29:57
  And it's like, it is interesting, like what your
• 30:00
  brain does with what information you have, so.
• 30:06
  Boom, it's like, and this was like the lead single and people
• 30:08
  were like, Nope, that's not what we want from you.
• 30:10
  Go away. Yeah.
• 30:12
  It's the same thing that happened to Weezer, yeah.
• 30:14
  What's crazy is I didn't even, I don't recall that at all.
• 30:17
  I don't recall it ever hitting the airwaves so.
• 30:21
  Yeah, I, I, it didn't stick out to me.
• 30:23
  When I first heard the album, I I saw.
• 30:25
  Do you guys know Jules Holland? Yeah, definitely.
• 30:29
  Yeah, so he has a show on on the BBC here, and it's a music show,
• 30:36
  and he gets around six or seven artists in a studio and they're
• 30:39
  all set up in the round. They're all in a big circle and
• 30:42
  he just moves from one to the other.
• 30:43
  And the artist that he has on there are really, really, really
• 30:46
  diverse. It's a really good show to watch
• 30:48
  to kind of get into new up your street, just in get into new
• 30:52
  artists and new bands. And I saw a performance of
• 30:57
  angels of the silences on here and seeing them play it live and
• 31:00
  the and the energy that the live performance brought, it really
• 31:03
  kind of went, whoa, this is a a banger of a song and I
• 31:07
  appreciated it more from from then on.
• 31:09
  I really. It's it's I'm not shocked that
• 31:12
  this got in, but I am kind of shocked that it's like the first
• 31:15
  one. I mean, clearly I can't be but
• 31:18
  so shocked because I was think thinking about leading off with
• 31:22
  it. But but it I guess not knowing
• 31:26
  that it was a single probably helps helps my shock as well.
• 31:29
  So all right, boom. Just like that one's in Gavin.
• 31:35
  OK, I think this song is their most popular song on Spotify
• 31:38
  now. I think I don't love it as much
• 31:41
  as everybody else, but it's it's a good song and it was really
• 31:44
  fun to listen to this last sort of holiday season.
• 31:50
  You guys have a long December. I do, yes.
• 31:55
  Yeah, I have it. Yep, There you go.
• 32:00
  There we go. That one, that one felt like
• 32:04
  like you have to, I mean, like I there's there was no way around.
• 32:12
  Like it never worked its way out.
• 32:16
  Like it was never going to get cut.
• 32:18
  It it made my first pass without me listening to it.
• 32:21
  I'll say that like I just kind of was like, yeah, that's, you
• 32:25
  know, at least making my first pass.
• 32:27
  And then when I'm going to cut songs like, oh, no, not only is
• 32:30
  it, is it on my first pass, it's in it's I, I fucking love this
• 32:36
  song. So boom.
• 32:38
  Hell yeah. It could be could be an R.E.M.
• 32:41
  Song, yeah, I always think I always hear Stipe singing it
• 32:46
  potentially in my in my head. Boom, boom and boom.
• 32:50
  All right, well, a couple my that.
• 32:57
  So now the next two that I was looking at to play are off the
• 33:01
  books. So let's see.
• 33:06
  I'll go back to the first record.
• 33:09
  How about Anna? Begins.
• 33:12
  Yeah. Yep.
• 33:18
  Absolutely. Hey, hey, hey, All right, one.
• 33:23
  Of my top favorite songs, that was the song.
• 33:28
  When I got together with Jen, my partner, like 17 years ago, she
• 33:32
  put that on a mix for me, the first mix she made for me.
• 33:36
  And that was where I was like, oh, like I didn't know anything
• 33:40
  except Mr. Jones. And that was where I was like,
• 33:42
  oh, this is really fucking great.
• 33:44
  You know, it's, it's kind of like showed me there was more to
• 33:49
  them than one song. Yeah, so it was one of my best
• 33:53
  friends garb. It was his wedding song.
• 33:57
  It was his first dance at his wedding.
• 33:59
  And I remember thinking, oh, that's a that's a deep cut for
• 34:02
  a, for a, for a first dance. But you know, but pretty but
• 34:06
  pretty cool. There's there's a bit in the
• 34:09
  song as well, right, that I don't there's there's like a
• 34:14
  little inflection that he that he does in one line and it, it
• 34:17
  always reminds me of Tracy Chapman, you know, like fast
• 34:20
  car. There's a bit.
• 34:23
  It's the bit that goes and can as falls like rain.
• 34:27
  The way he sings it, it's almost like Tracy Chapman would say,
• 34:29
  yeah, I have no idea why that connection happens in my weird
• 34:33
  brain. But whenever I think of this
• 34:35
  song, it's always that that line and the Tracy Chapman like in my
• 34:39
  head that I think of. Listen to it, see if you can.
• 34:43
  See what I got? Well, you know that what's crazy
• 34:46
  is like, I'm not thinking that you're crazy.
• 34:48
  Like that actually tracks. Like it's the same reason like
• 34:53
  we dismissed them is the same reason it's actually great.
• 34:56
  Like it's because Tracy Chapman's fucking great.
• 35:00
  Like, you know, why would why would that be a bad thing?
• 35:03
  But there was a time in my life where where that would be an
• 35:07
  immediate dismissal. Like it's stupid and I can't do
• 35:11
  anything about 20 year old Justin, you know, his dumb ass.
• 35:15
  But like 46 year old Justin can go, Nah, man, that's fucking
• 35:19
  cool and I love that and I totally get what you're saying.
• 35:22
  So all right, boom, just like that at John's three this early
• 35:28
  in the game. So, John, right where you want
• 35:31
  to go? All right, I'm going to go back
• 35:35
  to August and everything after and this song, I always kind of
• 35:39
  dismissed it because the way the album flows, I always thought
• 35:43
  that like Raining in Baltimore would be the perfect closer and
• 35:46
  that they were dumb not to make that the closer.
• 35:50
  But then this song was on. It was used on The Bear, which
• 35:55
  has a great soundtrack. I forget if it was maybe season
• 35:59
  2 or season 3, I can't remember exactly.
• 36:01
  But when it came on, I was like, oh shit, like this song's pretty
• 36:06
  good. And like, the more I listen to
• 36:09
  it, probably it's like, maybe it's one of my favorites on the
• 36:12
  album right now. How about a murder of 1?
• 36:14
  Yes, great song. Yes, absolutely.
• 36:20
  Oh well, now I feel bad. To be fair, like that is also an
• 36:25
  answer that we got on on threads.
• 36:30
  Somebody actually said that that that should be, you know, who
• 36:35
  wants to go back and, and make more work for themselves.
• 36:38
  In this case, it was for sure on my first pass, it was one of
• 36:41
  those like probably last 7 danglers that I, you know, you
• 36:46
  don't got to push me on a, on anything off of that first
• 36:49
  record. So.
• 36:51
  The baseline is, is awesome. Like it's I, I always kind of
• 36:54
  imagine, I don't know whether she'd use this phrase, but I
• 36:57
  imagine Jenny saying it's a bop. It's like the baseline kind of
• 37:01
  goes boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 37:06
  It's got a real kind of groove to it.
• 37:09
  And of course it says it it it brings in the the name of the
• 37:13
  band, which is always, always quite cool.
• 37:16
  This on on Bleach by Nirvana. I'm sure there's a song where he
• 37:20
  goes Nirvana. I like it when that happens so.
• 37:26
  All right, it grabs A3, gets to hang around Christian.
• 37:34
  OK, OK, We when we were prepping for this and apologies, I'm
• 37:43
  going to August and everything after again, when we were
• 37:47
  prepping for this, a few of us mentioned that we watched the
• 37:50
  documentary that they just brought out, which was quite
• 37:54
  cool. I think it was made quite
• 37:55
  recently. It didn't come out that long
• 37:57
  ago. And John mentioned a couple of
• 38:01
  people who in not necessarily influenced by the band, but but
• 38:04
  love the band, Frank Turner, etcetera and pop somebody on the
• 38:09
  documentary who I don't not a huge fan of their music, but the
• 38:15
  way he spoke about the band kind of resonated with how I saw
• 38:18
  them. And maybe it's because we're
• 38:19
  both British. So that person was Chris Martin
• 38:23
  and he said that they had this kind of quality that their that
• 38:28
  their music kind of took you to like a desert place and it was
• 38:31
  that kind of exotic Americana that that kind of is intriguing
• 38:38
  to to to Brits that do you know what I mean?
• 38:44
  The song is Omaha. No, no.
• 38:51
  No, can't save you. Wow OK, I didn't think it'd be a
• 38:54
  trash. Yeah, that's surprising.
• 38:57
  Yeah. But the other thing is, again,
• 39:01
  little, little quirk in that song for me.
• 39:03
  There's a line that I just had to look up now because I've.
• 39:06
  It probably happens all the time with you guys.
• 39:08
  There's the whole thing about misheared lyrics.
• 39:11
  There's like a comedian here called Peter K who does a whole
• 39:14
  routine on it about misheared lyrics.
• 39:16
  It's really funny. There's a line that says in the
• 39:20
  middle of the night, there's an old man.
• 39:22
  And I thought it said there's an old man threading his toast
• 39:26
  through a buttering ring. And I was like, what is this
• 39:31
  invention that you could, you somehow don't have to butter
• 39:34
  your toast by hand. There's an there's a machine
• 39:37
  that you can put your toast in and it's, it's a, it's a
• 39:41
  circular shaped machine and it will apply the butter evenly
• 39:44
  across your toast. So you can effortlessly enjoy
• 39:46
  your toast while you're sitting in the desert in Omaha.
• 39:48
  But no, sadly enough, it is actually.
• 39:50
  Actually there's an old man threading his toes through a
• 39:53
  bucket of rain, which is a bit more boring, but I, I I.
• 39:57
  So now I know there's no such thing as a buttering ring.
• 39:59
  I am going to invent 1 and become a millionaire.
• 40:01
  Yeah, there you go. So there.
• 40:03
  So there we go. Ingenuity.
• 40:06
  I can't wait for Christian's buttering ring.
• 40:10
  All right, Gavin. OK, we're going to put this one
• 40:14
  to the Christian test. Here we go.
• 40:17
  You guys have hanging around off this desert life.
• 40:21
  No, I don't. No.
• 40:23
  No, no, it wasn't keen. Yeah.
• 40:27
  I had it on. My first pass, right?
• 40:29
  Yeah, actually. That's that's go ahead.
• 40:32
  I was just going to say I, I mean, I actually really, you
• 40:35
  know, enjoyed it. It is a song that I had heard
• 40:37
  before and I dumped it in favor of keeping more shit from the
• 40:43
  front front half. You know, like that's, that's
• 40:46
  really all I can say about it. I thought like I I thought about
• 40:50
  it's just so catchy, like it's a earworm, but John, it's like
• 40:57
  it's their box elder dude. It's like.
• 40:59
  No, it's No it's not. It's everybody has to have that.
• 41:03
  I got to get the fuck out of this town.
• 41:04
  So I'm not saying it's even close to as good as Box Elder.
• 41:07
  I'm just saying the theme of right, it's like, I mean, I
• 41:11
  prefer still in Hollywood by fucking Concrete Blonde.
• 41:14
  There's a lot of songs like that, like I have to get out of
• 41:16
  this town. I've been hanging around here
• 41:18
  for too long, but so I like the sentiment of it coming from kind
• 41:22
  of a small town. But yeah.
• 41:24
  Anyway, cool song. Into the bin.
• 41:28
  Unfortunately we brought up the documentary, so I'm going to do
• 41:33
  it. How about Have you seen me
• 41:35
  lately? No.
• 41:40
  Yes, I have seen you lately. All right, I take a two there, a
• 41:47
  2 is all right. Boom and boom.
• 41:51
  All right, John. All right, I'm going to go to
• 41:56
  the new record and I'm going to live up to my reputation of
• 42:00
  being a last track guy. How about Bobby and the Rat
• 42:03
  Kings? Very good, no?
• 42:08
  No, it was like too Springsteen karaoke for me.
• 42:15
  Yeah, I've got, I've got written down a little bit Elton John, a
• 42:19
  little bit of The Who, a little bit Bruce Springsteen and a
• 42:22
  little bit meatloaf and all of that adds up to a no for me.
• 42:30
  I thought it was one of the best ones on the new record, so yeah.
• 42:34
  Funnily enough, the name of that record?
• 42:36
  Butter Miracle. So first it's butter rings, and
• 42:39
  now it's butter miracles. All right, Christian.
• 42:44
  Was that was that trash or did somebody else have that?
• 42:48
  Oh, OK, OK, OK, right. I'll take one more from August
• 42:54
  because I want to do a thing and then I promise I'll move away.
• 42:58
  I'm going to play the Rain King. Yeah, I got it.
• 43:07
  Yeah, I do too. Yeah.
• 43:09
  Yeah, great song. Boom.
• 43:13
  It feels like it should be to me, the first song.
• 43:18
  Yeah. It just has that first song
• 43:19
  energy, but there we go. Yeah, that's great.
• 43:24
  All right, kind of really like really scratches that itch of
• 43:29
  like that time frame while being simultaneously timeless.
• 43:34
  Like it's interesting like that. You can, which is why like we'll
• 43:39
  cross those bridges when we get there.
• 43:41
  But yeah, rank King is in. Let me check that off and then
• 43:47
  we will move on to Gavin. All right, Justin, track 1
• 43:53
  coming at you. I got the I took the title track
• 43:57
  off hard candy. Hard candy.
• 44:01
  No, surprisingly, no. No.
• 44:06
  Yeah, I have it. Hey.
• 44:08
  Go ask her. Yeah.
• 44:13
  I think it was on my first pass. My first pass is like a long
• 44:19
  time ago. It feels like like I feel like a
• 44:21
  lot has happened since my first pass on this band.
• 44:27
  You take a two there, all right, Everybody's making the foray
• 44:33
  into other stuff, so I'll make the a foray into other stuff.
• 44:43
  You know what? I'll go into this desert life
• 44:45
  and this wasn't one I got like two or three times as an answer.
• 44:49
  How about color blind? No.
• 44:55
  No. No.
• 44:57
  No. All right, Bend, all right.
• 45:03
  Going to have a hard time finding you guys.
• 45:05
  That feels all right, John all. Right, let me see what I've got
• 45:12
  here. I'll stick on that record.
• 45:14
  How about high life? No.
• 45:18
  No. Almost made it.
• 45:22
  It was on my, it was on my 25, but it was a, it was a lick,
• 45:26
  Yeah, one of my favourites off that record, but it didn't make
• 45:29
  it. All right, Christian.
• 45:34
  OK, I promised I'd move away. Gavin's ripped the cellophane
• 45:39
  off hard candy. Even if even if I didn't all
• 45:41
  those years ago, but haven't, haven't done so.
• 45:45
  I really liked it. Actually, I really, really
• 45:47
  enjoyed it, and I wish I had. This isn't the only song that I
• 45:53
  have so spoiler alert where Adam harmonizes really well with a
• 46:00
  female vocalist. I believe it's with Leona Ness,
• 46:06
  who I'm I've heard of but I'm not familiar with her work.
• 46:11
  It's black and blue. No, I got it.
• 46:16
  No, we'll. Take that too.
• 46:20
  Sure, a really nice song. Really beautiful song all.
• 46:24
  Right. Boom, Gavin.
• 46:28
  I took I'm not sleeping off recovering the satellite.
• 46:37
  I got it. No.
• 46:39
  No, I don't. Boom and boom, another two.
• 46:48
  All right, let me shift this around and see what I got left
• 46:51
  here. I mean, I've got plenty left,
• 46:54
  but come on. OK, let's stay with the songs
• 47:06
  that other people have said. How about Speedway?
• 47:10
  No. No.
• 47:14
  That was #21. OK, all right.
• 47:20
  Boom and boom, John. All right, let's try to hit on
• 47:27
  one. How about around here?
• 47:28
  Fuck. Yes.
• 47:32
  Yeah, yeah. OK, great.
• 47:36
  I was hoping this would happen, that you all would have it and
• 47:39
  I'd I'd be covered because yes, this absolutely should be a
• 47:45
  unanimous. I being new to the band and
• 47:51
  well, and also like being new to the band and that first record,
• 47:55
  like kind of really having never heard it, like I, you know, I
• 48:03
  wanted to bring other stuff to the table in case people had
• 48:08
  heard around here and it didn't didn't do the job for them.
• 48:11
  That said, this absolutely should have been a unanimous and
• 48:15
  will be the first one I say should be in when we get there,
• 48:18
  so. It might, it might be my
• 48:20
  favorite song, but I think it's a song that crosses over in
• 48:24
  spirit the most into like the kind of music I like.
• 48:27
  And it was my favorite part of the documentary where they're
• 48:29
  talking about their Saturday night, Saturday Night Live
• 48:32
  appearance and how that was so great and how SNL was really
• 48:36
  pushing for them to open with Mr. Jones.
• 48:38
  And he just fucking threw down and was like, we're opening with
• 48:42
  round here, which was so, you know, not uplifting like banger
• 48:47
  to like get the show's energy up and stuff.
• 48:49
  And like that footage of them fucking playing that on SNL,
• 48:54
  it's so amazing. It's like what?
• 48:58
  How much would you pay for like a complete Saturday Night Live
• 49:00
  performance DVD? Yeah.
• 49:03
  So much crazy stuff on there. Yeah.
• 49:06
  And like, yeah, that whole thing about they wanted him to edit
• 49:08
  the song down by like a minute and 1/2.
• 49:10
  He's like, yeah. He's like, no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 49:15
  yeah. And just what, what a fucking
• 49:16
  band in that moment, you know what I mean?
• 49:18
  Like, that's their moment right there.
• 49:20
  Like, I think it just captures what what was really beautiful
• 49:25
  about them. Amazing.
• 49:28
  And the, the lyrics, the lyrics are, are awesome as well.
• 49:31
  There's like there's so many, there's so many lyrics I could
• 49:33
  lift from it. But like she walks, she walks
• 49:36
  along the edge where the ocean meets the sand, like she's
• 49:38
  walking on a wire in a circus. I mean, the image, the imagery
• 49:42
  that it kind of conjures up so good.
• 49:46
  I also want to reiterate I admittedly I did this on
• 49:52
  purpose. Like it for sure.
• 49:56
  It's going to turn out to cost you the final say maybe.
• 50:00
  Maybe we'll see. I forget where we are.
• 50:04
  Who put round here out there? I did.
• 50:08
  OK, all right, so Christian. Hey, I really like this song
• 50:16
  when I first heard it back in the day.
• 50:19
  So it is one of again, go back to the first two.
• 50:24
  I was I liked it when bands not only name checked themselves, as
• 50:30
  I mentioned earlier on, but name checked other artists around at
• 50:33
  the time, which was really cool because it basically go I like I
• 50:36
  like that artist as well. So there's a line.
• 50:39
  Got nowhere but home to go but got Ben Folds on my radio right
• 50:43
  now which I was like, oh cool, 'cause I like Ben Folds at the
• 50:45
  time. And then recently when I watched
• 50:48
  the documentary, I didn't realise until I saw the
• 50:50
  documentary that the song was about one of the most famous
• 50:56
  women in the world in 1994, which Adam Durrett happened to
• 51:00
  date both of them. Apparently this song is about
• 51:03
  Courtney Cox. It's Monkey.
• 51:07
  Oh, did not know any of that. But no, I I cannot save you.
• 51:12
  Yeah, no. OK, I it's kind of AII brought
• 51:19
  it to bring it because I can see it's it feels a little bit throw
• 51:23
  away, no pun intended, because it's in the trash.
• 51:26
  But it's just one that always kind of stuck with me and
• 51:31
  resonated me. So never mind, never mind.
• 51:35
  No, that's Nirvana Christian. Sorry.
• 51:37
  Yeah. All right, Gavin.
• 51:42
  I took Miami off hard candy. Oh no.
• 51:48
  Oh, I almost took it, but I didn't.
• 51:51
  A lot of these I can't recall. I can't give you a story of the
• 51:54
  the when it came off or why. Obviously I never have the why.
• 52:00
  I never know the why. All right, I'll still play.
• 52:06
  I'll play in the the deep or the the back records here.
• 52:12
  How about goodnight LA? No.
• 52:18
  No. Nope.
• 52:21
  All right, we're at that part of the game.
• 52:23
  I see. All right, John.
• 52:27
  All right, I'll how about goodnight Elizabeth then?
• 52:32
  No. Exactly the same as raining in
• 52:37
  Baltimore. It was like the last cut all.
• 52:43
  Right, Christian. OK, Whenever we play like we
• 52:54
  have playlists which include like recent albums from bands
• 52:58
  from the 90s, I'm always a bit kind of skeptical about it.
• 53:03
  But I actually did manage to find 2 off but a miracle that I
• 53:06
  actually really liked. So I'm going to play something
• 53:09
  off that I will play. Could we leave a light on Angel
• 53:17
  of 14th St. No.
• 53:20
  No. No.
• 53:24
  I was hoping for you, John. I know you're the one who kind
• 53:26
  of wanted to put the the newer record on, but.
• 53:29
  Yeah, I went with. I went with the the next one
• 53:32
  instead. Yeah, that's true.
• 53:34
  Yeah, Penultimate 1. All right, Gavin.
• 53:40
  So I'm going to just, I'll take the bullet on this one.
• 53:45
  So I think Mr. Jones is like, I mean, it's not a novel, you
• 53:53
  know, idea here, but for me that's not interested in kind of
• 53:56
  like radio music and stuff. I think it's a fucking perfect
• 54:02
  song. Like from the first time I heard
• 54:05
  it when it came out, I was like down and out in San Francisco
• 54:10
  and like every time it came on the radio, which was a lot, it
• 54:14
  just like made me so fucking happy.
• 54:16
  And it still does. Every time I hear it, I think
• 54:19
  it's like kind of like common people when we were doing the
• 54:23
  Pulp episode. I think that it's a really
• 54:27
  stupendous beat that they pull off in that song where I always
• 54:32
  get this image of like a deck of cards, like face cards.
• 54:35
  And every line of that song, he just keeps dealing you in new
• 54:40
  like fucking stunning face card. And they don't like 1 after the
• 54:44
  other dealing. Here you go boom, boom, boom.
• 54:47
  And it's like the structure of it, like how did you play those
• 54:51
  cards in sequence? You know, like show me, show me,
• 54:54
  show me how you do that trick. The one that makes me scream,
• 54:57
  she said. It's like, really?
• 55:01
  It also just captures like a mood for me when you're in your
• 55:06
  early 20s and your fucking ass out and you're like with your
• 55:10
  trouble buddy, like going down the street.
• 55:12
  It's too early to be drinking, but you got a bottle and like
• 55:16
  all you have is like low self esteem and like charisma on your
• 55:19
  side, you know, and like you don't know where the day is
• 55:22
  going to take you. It like really captures that.
• 55:24
  And I just think it's a fucking beautiful song.
• 55:29
  I'm. Going to I'll say no and I'll
• 55:34
  say more after every we get everybody else's answers.
• 55:41
  It's one of the greatest songs of the 90s, absolutely.
• 55:44
  Oh, OK, Good, good, good, good. No, and the reason is, I mean,
• 55:50
  I, I agree with everything that Gavin said.
• 55:53
  I I do like it when it comes on. I think it's one of the better
• 55:56
  radio songs from that era, but I just don't think it's needed
• 56:00
  here. I think there's probably for me
• 56:02
  there there was. There were better songs to
• 56:04
  choose from. Yeah, I think that it's one of
• 56:06
  those songs where you have to do that deprogrammed brick where
• 56:11
  you have to like, how do you, like step out of yourself and
• 56:19
  get in a time machine and and put yourself back for the
• 56:23
  context of the time where it came out and when you heard it
• 56:27
  for the first time. And like, really try to like,
• 56:30
  you know, you have to do that. Like, John, when we were talking
• 56:32
  about like, it's the end of the world as we know it.
• 56:35
  Or like, there's a lot of songs like that where you're like, OK,
• 56:38
  like, yeah. But to look at it in its purest
• 56:41
  sense, to be able to really, like, step out and just look at
• 56:44
  it like a like a sculpture on pedestal.
• 56:47
  It's really a piece of art that's really beautiful.
• 56:50
  I much like John IA 1000% actually agree with you.
• 56:56
  I I love this song. I, you know, I, I think, I think
• 57:01
  part of it is what you're saying is not being able to step away
• 57:05
  from far enough from it to to be able to go.
• 57:10
  Yeah. But like I did twofold here.
• 57:13
  Number one, I think maybe had I heard this record beforehand,
• 57:20
  like maybe I could have done that a little better.
• 57:22
  Like I, I would have been able to separate myself from kind of
• 57:25
  the overplayment playing of it and like be able to just look at
• 57:29
  it as just, you know, Mr. Jones and thinking about it like from
• 57:34
  the first time I heard it, I think had I had heard the record
• 57:37
  before this, I think I could have done that more firstly.
• 57:41
  And then the second thing I thought of is kind of in
• 57:44
  conjunction with that thought is that if, if I heard, I heard Mr.
• 57:51
  Jones, I lived that I lived when it came out and it didn't make
• 57:54
  me listen to the record. So like I kind of I kind of
• 57:58
  projected that on to my list and the projected that on to, you
• 58:02
  know, who am I if I pass this on to somebody else, are they going
• 58:07
  to look at it the same way I did?
• 58:08
  Is like, it wasn't enough then, why would it be enough now?
• 58:12
  And that doesn't to me, doesn't this, it absolutely 1000%
• 58:17
  belongs in this conversation. And I'm glad that it got more
• 58:21
  than one of us as as opposed to just, you know, one person as
• 58:25
  you put it, taking the bullet on it.
• 58:27
  Yeah. So I mean, it gets a 2, so it
• 58:33
  gets to hang around. We'll we'll see how it does in
• 58:35
  the next round. I think I'm going to go back to
• 58:39
  my ones that somebody brought up.
• 58:43
  I don't think I landed on any of those yet.
• 58:45
  No, that's not true. And it begins got in.
• 58:49
  How about How about Catapult? No.
• 58:56
  No. I've won.
• 58:58
  Yes, I'll save you. Yeah, right.
• 59:01
  I'll take a two there, take A2. All right, John all.
• 59:07
  Right. I like a good sequel song.
• 59:11
  They have a song that was a an outtake from the first record
• 59:14
  that we added on here, a song about some horses, which may or
• 59:21
  may not be named later, but they they put a sequel to an
• 59:25
  unreleased song on their second record and I took that one
• 59:28
  another horse streamers Blues. I like the like the the
• 59:32
  obscurity of that. That's cool, I'll have it.
• 59:35
  That's cool though, I like. That yeah, same I I don't have
• 59:38
  it, but that's I like I like having a story I.
• 59:43
  Like horse racing and I like this song so I have it cool.
• 59:50
  Boom, too. All right, Christian.
• 59:56
  OK, I mentioned earlier on about liking duets.
• 1:00:04
  Not quite duets, I suppose, but songs with female backing
• 1:00:08
  singers. So I'll play another one of
• 1:00:12
  those, I believe this time. And I think it was a single.
• 1:00:17
  I'll think this time it was Sheryl Crow.
• 1:00:20
  American Girls. No.
• 1:00:23
  No, no, no reason. I just don't have it.
• 1:00:31
  All right, Kevin. I took Missus Potter's lullaby
• 1:00:37
  off this desert life. I want to be clear, this was one
• 1:00:43
  that I was going to go make space for it because it was an
• 1:00:46
  answer. I got it.
• 1:00:48
  I want to say it was one of my later cuts and again, who wants
• 1:00:51
  to do the work that late in the game?
• 1:00:53
  So I just was too lazy to to find space for it.
• 1:01:00
  Yeah, this, this troubled me because it felt like I should
• 1:01:03
  take it and it was catchy and I think it was a single, but I
• 1:01:07
  just like it bugged me because it was it felt like it was too
• 1:01:11
  long. So I kind I kind of went, you
• 1:01:13
  know what is a little bit a little bit of gameplay here?
• 1:01:17
  I thought similar to you, I think Justin on the big singles
• 1:01:21
  from the first record. I thought I'll I won't take it.
• 1:01:24
  And if it's important enough, other people will bring it.
• 1:01:28
  So I don't have it. So this is the one that I took
• 1:01:32
  instead of Mr. Jones. Hey, there you go.
• 1:01:36
  Yeah. There you go.
• 1:01:37
  We'll get to there. Boom, boom, boom.
• 1:01:40
  Let me count what I got left and then we can figure out how many
• 1:01:44
  more rounds we need to do here. 12345678 I think we got another
• 1:01:52
  two rounds. Oh wow.
• 1:01:52
  Yeah, I only got only got 5. All right, So yeah, that let's
• 1:01:56
  we'll do 2 two more rounds then that sounds actually perfect.
• 1:02:01
  Let me shift this around and then.
• 1:02:11
  All right, this is the last one that I have that somebody else
• 1:02:14
  said. So how about daylight fading?
• 1:02:18
  Oh. Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Hey. Yes.
• 1:02:24
  Hey, I'll take a three there. Boom and boom.
• 1:02:33
  All right, John. OK, feels like we haven't played
• 1:02:39
  anything from August and everything after in a while, so
• 1:02:41
  how about time and time again? No, no.
• 1:02:46
  No. Really.
• 1:02:49
  Wow. OK.
• 1:02:50
  We're all too cool. For that, I guess, yeah, all.
• 1:02:55
  Right. Let me get to that, man.
• 1:02:58
  We're covering a lot here. All right, Christian.
• 1:03:05
  I'm not too cool for Sullivan's, for Sullivan St. from org's and
• 1:03:10
  everything after. So I gave it away then.
• 1:03:11
  So this is the this is the third of my trilogy of female backing
• 1:03:18
  singers. I believe it's Maria McKee who
• 1:03:21
  had the Days of Thunder soundtrack.
• 1:03:24
  Show me heaven. I think it's her.
• 1:03:27
  So the song builds and by the end the harmonies are stunning
• 1:03:31
  and they kind of crescendo on a line it goes.
• 1:03:34
  It's almost everything I see. So yeah, Sullivan St.
• 1:03:40
  I. Got it.
• 1:03:41
  Great song. Got it.
• 1:03:42
  Yeah. Hey.
• 1:03:44
  Yeah, this is pure R.E.M. like you talk about mid period R.E.M.
• 1:03:49
  It could totally be an R.E.M. song.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah, I have it. Hey, uh oh, does that just did
• 1:03:56
  that just put me squarely in the because I think that's 50.
• 1:04:00
  Oh, is that unanimous? Yeah.
• 1:04:02
  Oh cool. Let me scroll on up here.
• 1:04:07
  You, Justin. Yeah, now it's now the heat is
• 1:04:10
  on me. All right, Sullivan St. gets a
• 1:04:17
  all the way through. And Gavin?
• 1:04:21
  The perfect blue buildings off the first record.
• 1:04:29
  No. Nah, near miss.
• 1:04:32
  Couldn't take all of them. That it bums me out that it's
• 1:04:35
  bend. That's great, I'll tell you.
• 1:04:38
  Like that was the moment I knew I was in trouble.
• 1:04:40
  Was that song. Because like, I think I had
• 1:04:43
  everything up until that point. I mean, I think it's only like
• 1:04:46
  track three maybe. But still, I was like, I'm
• 1:04:49
  taking everything right now. And I thought that to me, went
• 1:04:54
  on my first pass felt like the first sure thing.
• 1:04:57
  Like it. It felt like it was the first
• 1:04:59
  one, yeah. And then like, and somehow I, it
• 1:05:05
  got clipped off and I was like, oh boy, like.
• 1:05:09
  Yeah. They talk about it a bit in the
• 1:05:13
  documentary, don't they? Because they he talks about
• 1:05:15
  wanting to get the production right or the delivery right that
• 1:05:18
  he he's having a breakdown or something.
• 1:05:22
  You said he's saying like they they did a lot of takes because
• 1:05:24
  he's like, no, no, I don't sound desperate.
• 1:05:26
  And I don't know, that's desperate and depressed enough.
• 1:05:30
  He kind of wants to feel like broken in his delivery.
• 1:05:33
  He was really surprised. It feels like a deep cut, but it
• 1:05:35
  got quite a bit of focus in the documentary.
• 1:05:40
  Let's see. All right, so where should I go
• 1:05:46
  for my last play before the dump out?
• 1:05:51
  How about if I could give all my love or Rich Emmanuel is dead?
• 1:05:56
  No. No.
• 1:06:01
  No, but this one made me laugh because the opening ref sounds
• 1:06:05
  like the theme from Friends, which is ironic given Adam's Day
• 1:06:09
  in History. I can't exactly, I can't exactly
• 1:06:12
  remember how it goes, but it's very like no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:06:15
  no, no, no, no. All right, into the bin it goes,
• 1:06:20
  and John. All right, I will stay on that
• 1:06:25
  record and pick the last track holiday in Spain.
• 1:06:31
  I almost took that. That was a really late cut.
• 1:06:34
  Good song. No, not for me all.
• 1:06:40
  Right, Christian. OK I only have 3 left, I said.
• 1:06:49
  I like Todd Candy. That was the biggest positive
• 1:06:52
  surprise for me from the rest of the catalog, so I'll empty out
• 1:06:55
  my heart Candy up all night. I almost took that too.
• 1:07:01
  That's a good song. I don't have it.
• 1:07:03
  No, I don't have it. Yeah.
• 1:07:06
  All right, Gavin. I took the title track off
• 1:07:10
  recovering the satellites. Oh, no.
• 1:07:15
  Yes, Sir. Maybe.
• 1:07:17
  That's my last one, yeah. All right, well, Dang.
• 1:07:23
  So that gives us a three and also closes us on the
• 1:07:27
  possibility. Closes our a possibility on any
• 1:07:30
  more unanimous. So that means I'm going to win
• 1:07:33
  at 5 no matter what we do from here.
• 1:07:37
  Nice. All right, let me clear out
• 1:07:39
  then, because John's done it sounds like Christian.
• 1:07:43
  You only have one now, I guess, right?
• 1:07:45
  Because. Yeah.
• 1:07:46
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:07:47
  All right, so I'll start at the top ghost train.
• 1:07:52
  No. No all.
• 1:07:54
  Right, four days. No.
• 1:08:00
  Nope. OK.
• 1:08:02
  And then all the rest of these are the butter record.
• 1:08:11
  All right, with love from A-Z. No.
• 1:08:16
  Nope. Box Cars.
• 1:08:20
  No. That's my one.
• 1:08:23
  Really. All right, Yeah.
• 1:08:25
  Nice. That's an interesting way to
• 1:08:28
  close out for Christian box cars and last but not least under the
• 1:08:33
  Aurora. No.
• 1:08:35
  OK, so I'm out. John's out.
• 1:08:38
  Christian's out. You should be dwindling down
• 1:08:41
  there, Gavin. What?
• 1:08:42
  What do you got left? I had two songs off Butter
• 1:08:45
  Miracle Spaceman in Tulsa. Very good.
• 1:08:49
  And Virginia through the rain and I had walk aways from
• 1:08:53
  recovering satellites, which I really like those clothes.
• 1:08:57
  Yeah, the closer, the closer off that record.
• 1:08:59
  I want to point out that Spaceman in Tulsa was like a
• 1:09:03
  really rough cut for me. Good song.
• 1:09:06
  And that Virginia through the rain actually got an answer when
• 1:09:09
  I asked. Oh, interesting.
• 1:09:11
  That's another good song. Yeah.
• 1:09:13
  What were you? I want to, I want to say
• 1:09:15
  something about. Yeah.
• 1:09:15
  I want to say something about Virginia Through the Rain.
• 1:09:19
  I would never have believed you back in the 90s if you told me
• 1:09:23
  this would ever happen. But on Virginia Through the
• 1:09:25
  Rain, Adam Duritz sounds a lot like Eddie Vedder.
• 1:09:34
  Like, like as in. As in as in now.
• 1:09:36
  Eddie Vedder. Yeah.
• 1:09:37
  Yeah. I don't.
• 1:09:40
  Again, it's one of those you'd have to go back and and have a
• 1:09:43
  listen to, but there's there's lots of kind of inflections and
• 1:09:45
  tone that I think, yeah, that there's definite similarities
• 1:09:49
  for me all. Right, I put the wrong a number
• 1:09:53
  in the machine. So we've got 5 through Angels of
• 1:09:58
  the Silences along December, Anna begins rain King Sullivan
• 1:10:02
  St. Not a surprise. 5 through from
• 1:10:05
  the 1st 2 records to get us started. 12123456 threes.
• 1:10:13
  Let's run those down real quick. Einstein on the Beach, raining
• 1:10:17
  in Baltimore, murder of one round here, daylight fading and
• 1:10:23
  recovering the satellites. I mean, I already mentioned
• 1:10:28
  round here, like let me go ahead and get out of the way of that
• 1:10:31
  one, grab that. But I mean, we I think the next
• 1:10:39
  one to tackle is Einstein on the Beach, right, John, based on
• 1:10:42
  kind of what what you were talking about when it came up.
• 1:10:45
  I think the the first three that we put up Einstein on the beach
• 1:10:50
  rainy in Baltimore and Amur one, I think those are clear and
• 1:10:54
  above the the the top level here and they they all three deserve
• 1:10:59
  to be in. So I mean, if that's the case,
• 1:11:02
  does that mean we're we're hoping that I'm going to use my
• 1:11:06
  pick for round here? I you can do whatever you want,
• 1:11:10
  but I'd are above round here. Sorry what I'm saying is like I
• 1:11:15
  guess my math is off. So cuz 5 + 3 is 8 Justin you can
• 1:11:20
  do math. So does anybody disagree with
• 1:11:26
  that sentiment? Einstein murder of 1 reigning in
• 1:11:29
  Baltimore being the next three. No, those are great songs.
• 1:11:34
  They should all be in. Yeah, Einstein.
• 1:11:41
  I mean, I missed something on Einstein.
• 1:11:43
  Clearly you guys had all heard it from some compilation of or
• 1:11:46
  some show or something. I'd never heard of it or heard
• 1:11:49
  or heard the song. It didn't really strike with me.
• 1:11:53
  But it, as I say, there's clearly like a a difference in
• 1:11:56
  terms of how prominent it was in the States versus the UK.
• 1:12:00
  So I'm not going to, I'm not going to fight you on it.
• 1:12:05
  And raining in Baltimore was it was a teddy bear that I threw
• 1:12:07
  away. And murder of 1 is a bop.
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  Yeah, and I was the only one out on that and you know, no good
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  reason, just reasons. You know, sometimes you that
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  first record did just didn't have, didn't, couldn't take them
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  all. So all right, so that brings us
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  up to 8. And I guess this is the
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  conversation where we, we talk about is it round here at #9
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  John, like, or are we looking at one of these threes or are we
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  digging into these twos like? Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know.
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  I mean, I, I think there's a there's something to be said for
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  maybe another horse streamers Blues or misses Potter's
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  lullaby. But I'm I'm looking at this like
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  maybe maybe it is around here. I mean, it's, it's the that and,
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  and Mr. Jones, you're just sitting there.
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  I don't think we need both. I don't think we need Mr. Jones
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  at all. But round here maybe.
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  I mean, I could be convinced. We think Christian.
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  But again, I don't think I don't think we need it.
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  We already got 5 from that record.
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  Yeah. See, that's where this this
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  starts coming, where it starts coming down to this.
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  I was going to I'll, I'll, I'll park album representation for a
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  second, but I, you know, I've kind of tied myself to something
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  here because I did say about Mr. Jones that I think is one of the
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  greatest songs of the 90s. So it's it's on merit.
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  It absolutely has to be in. But from a purpose of the list
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  around getting you into a band, I mean, if you like music and
• 1:13:56
  you haven't heard Mr. Jones, like where have you been?
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  So I'm not going to, you know, if it ends up not being I'd be
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  shocked if neither Mr. Jones or around here were in there.
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  So. Yeah.
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  But and then so, yeah, coming back to album representation, we
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  we talked about everybody being slightly uncomfortable about
• 1:14:18
  being so front loaded. And yet here we are at 8 and
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  seven of those eight are from the 1st 2 records.
• 1:14:26
  But then look looking at our options, we've got nothing
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  that's got any bigger than A2 from anything after those first
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  two records. So how do we, if we were to do
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  that, how would we do it? So, you know, Mrs. Potter is
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  there, but like I said, I had reservations about about that.
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  I mean, what what we got from other records that that we could
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  put in black and blue box cars, hard candy or Mrs. Potter's.
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  I mean, it's not exactly. There's nothing in there that
• 1:15:05
  would be groundbreaking if you know, or that that that would be
• 1:15:09
  awful if we left it off. So I don't know.
• 1:15:12
  Do we need it? I don't have the answer.
• 1:15:16
  What do you think, Gavin? Where?
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  Where's your head at? I think Mr. Jones and Round Here
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  are their two best songs. Yeah, Yeah.
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  So I think both those should be in.
• 1:15:30
  But if we're talking about Round here right now, then let's put
• 1:15:34
  that in for sure. All right, so that if we do
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  that, then we're we're up to #9 and then we're leaving it up to
• 1:15:41
  this guy to pick #10 All right, let's grab.
• 1:15:48
  I mean again, like when I didn't pick round here, it was because
• 1:15:53
  I thought for sure you got you all would have it and that it it
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  belongs like it's it's not like it doesn't belong like it
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  belongs. So so now this brings me to my
• 1:16:07
  10 in ultimately, I I agree on the idea that it it should be a
• 1:16:14
  no brainer that it's Mr. Jones here.
• 1:16:16
  But like I keep coming back to Mr. Jones didn't do it for me in
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  that I loved it, but it didn't do it.
• 1:16:26
  It didn't do the trick for me. Like it didn't.
• 1:16:29
  My worry is that people roll their eyes when we show them a
• 1:16:33
  list and they go, Mr. Jones, even though we all know it is an
• 1:16:38
  excellent song. Like we're trying to break
• 1:16:43
  people of that. And as much as I would love to
• 1:16:49
  just take the easy way out, I think I'm going to scroll past
• 1:16:53
  that. My inclination here is to do
• 1:16:57
  album representation, even though we have, like, not taken
• 1:17:01
  that into account at all in this.
• 1:17:05
  And I think our list is almost all, Yeah, those first two
• 1:17:08
  records. And that's where the meat is.
• 1:17:11
  And if you're going to turn turn somebody from where they are on
• 1:17:15
  this band, that is my absolute recommendation.
• 1:17:18
  Those first two records, you will enjoy the rest of them if
• 1:17:22
  you just take the time to digest those first two.
• 1:17:26
  So now my second inclination was, have you seen me lately?
• 1:17:33
  What is that one about? Like I feel like I feel like
• 1:17:38
  there's like a video or something.
• 1:17:40
  And that's what they named. Yeah, it's, it's about them
• 1:17:42
  disappearing from the radio, I think.
• 1:17:47
  Yeah, it was the title of the. It's the title of the
• 1:17:49
  documentary, isn't it? And isn't it about him, like
• 1:17:51
  going back to work if there's a funny bit in the documentary?
• 1:17:55
  Because again, it's when Chris Martin's talking and they get
• 1:17:57
  and he goes, oh, I heard the story that Adam kind of like
• 1:18:00
  after the first record and all the fuss around him kind of
• 1:18:03
  disappeared and went off to be a barman or something.
• 1:18:06
  And the interview interviewer goes, yeah, in the Viper Room.
• 1:18:10
  And Chris Martin goes, oh, in the Viper Room.
• 1:18:12
  OK, well that doesn't count then.
• 1:18:17
  So I think it, yeah, it's about that kind of like going off and
• 1:18:23
  shying away from the all the fuss that was around them after
• 1:18:27
  the first record. And the line is like AI was
• 1:18:32
  there when the radio started to change or something, something
• 1:18:34
  like that. I mean, I know nobody send this,
• 1:18:40
  but this is my choice. So like, like that's the one
• 1:18:43
  that's really jumping out at me. So I'm taking have you seen me
• 1:18:46
  lately as our number 10 and boom and boom.
• 1:18:52
  And let's shift this around. And I mean, if nothing else, it
• 1:18:56
  might get somebody to watch said documentary that we're talking
• 1:19:00
  about, which they should. And I'm saying that to myself as
• 1:19:03
  well. I should watch that.
• 1:19:04
  I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
• 1:19:07
  All right, so let's run this down.
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  Angels of the Silences along December, Anna begins rain.
• 1:19:12
  King Sullivan, St. Einstein on the beach, raining
• 1:19:15
  in Baltimore, A murder of one round here.
• 1:19:18
  Have you seen me lately rounding at our 10?
• 1:19:22
  And I mean that literally is basically the the 1st 2 records.
• 1:19:26
  Good on us John. When I read those 10 down, which
• 1:19:30
  one do you think is the one? Yeah, for me, it's Anna begins.
• 1:19:37
  I think that's maybe the best showcase of them at their best.
• 1:19:44
  We think Christian. I don't disagree with John
• 1:19:55
  because it's representative of a lot of stuff they do.
• 1:19:56
  But for me, what's standing out is Angels of the Silences
• 1:20:03
  because it's got a bit of it's got a bit of everything.
• 1:20:05
  It's got the rock, but it's also got the the melody.
• 1:20:10
  All right. Gavin, do you agree with either
• 1:20:12
  of those or something else on your radar?
• 1:20:15
  I'd take round here and Anna Begins would be my second.
• 1:20:21
  OK, hi boy. It's hard to ignore.
• 1:20:27
  It really is hard to ignore round here, isn't it?
• 1:20:29
  Like it's my again leaning towards my inclination, but my
• 1:20:37
  inclination is wrong because Christian doesn't remember the
• 1:20:41
  song but my my inclination is Einstein on the Beach because it
• 1:20:44
  did the thing to both Gavin and I of holy shit this song.
• 1:20:49
  But if? That was going to be my number
• 1:20:51
  two, yeah. If people don't have that click,
• 1:20:54
  like if they don't have that switch to go Oh yeah, that then
• 1:20:57
  I don't, I don't know that it does us any good, but it it, it
• 1:21:01
  flipped the switch. But for both Gavin and I and I,
• 1:21:04
  I feel like it's worth, you know, exploring that I don't
• 1:21:11
  know that I I mean angels, angels of the silence is really
• 1:21:14
  scratches a just an itch. I don't know if we want to bring
• 1:21:16
  that into this conversation at all.
• 1:21:20
  As far as like that being a reason, I could go to bat for
• 1:21:23
  it. I was I was like to think I was,
• 1:21:28
  I was like to try and just in terms of like the best of which
• 1:21:32
  we always reference like, oh, that's going to get slammed or
• 1:21:34
  it's never going to make it in or that kind of thing.
• 1:21:36
  I always like to try and move away from the obvious for the
• 1:21:39
  for that choice. So although I think round here
• 1:21:43
  is an epic, it seems like if people see that on on the best
• 1:21:52
  of Oh really, you know, it's it's an easy one.
• 1:21:54
  It's too obvious. It was single one of them.
• 1:21:56
  It would get. It would get lost in the
• 1:21:58
  shuffle. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:22:00
  So something that's gonna something that would make people
• 1:22:04
  go oh, that you know, so and and I think yeah, I mean, again, I I
• 1:22:12
  can't get involved in the Einstein on the beach
• 1:22:14
  conversation because I I literally have have nothing to
• 1:22:16
  give on the on that. But that's that was my thinking
• 1:22:19
  around angels or sciences. That it that it it from the get
• 1:22:22
  go. There's, you know, the feedback
• 1:22:24
  and then it's straight into the the ref.
• 1:22:28
  So yeah. So I think I think it's a coin
• 1:22:32
  flip between silences and and it begins, it sounds like because I
• 1:22:36
  feel like, see, I don't recall angels of the silences at all on
• 1:22:44
  the radio. I don't so like.
• 1:22:48
  It had. It had a blip and then it was
• 1:22:49
  gone. Yeah.
• 1:22:50
  So I wonder if I wonder if it could kind of do the same thing
• 1:22:54
  that we were talking about with Einstein on the OR that Einstein
• 1:22:57
  did for Gavin. And I like if it could go, you
• 1:22:59
  know, click something for somebody else.
• 1:23:01
  Like it got on my list based on the merit of it just being a
• 1:23:05
  good song. And now, you know, when you look
• 1:23:10
  at something like Anna Begins, that is off the first record and
• 1:23:15
  it's not the two songs you would think if you were not a Counting
• 1:23:20
  Crows fan, right? So like, it it goes, it's a
• 1:23:25
  deeper cut. It's, you know, Counting Crows
• 1:23:29
  fans would probably say, as a matter of fact, I did get, like
• 1:23:31
  I said, somebody did answer that.
• 1:23:35
  But like, if you're not one, if we give them Anna Begins, there
• 1:23:40
  is no chance of that switch. They can just take the song as
• 1:23:47
  it as it is. So I don't know, like I'm
• 1:23:49
  walking myself around in circles like the I think it's between
• 1:23:52
  these two, though. I don't know if anybody has had
• 1:23:55
  a change of heart on on which one they're feeling more, but.
• 1:24:00
  No, for me, for me it's Andy begins by by far over rage.
• 1:24:03
  So the silences. I think that would really stand
• 1:24:06
  out in the in the best of and it it really like the songwriting
• 1:24:11
  there is is probably at their best.
• 1:24:15
  I can throw in for Anna Begins. I mean, I think it's got that
• 1:24:18
  the sad heart of the band. Like I think it, I think it has
• 1:24:22
  an essential quality of this band in that song.
• 1:24:24
  What? Do you think, Christian, now we
• 1:24:28
  got two kind of going, going to bat for Anna, begins like does
• 1:24:32
  this. I've I've got nothing, I've got
• 1:24:34
  nothing bad to say about Anna, begins.
• 1:24:36
  I love the song so. Let's lock that in then as our
• 1:24:40
  number one and I will get that queued U and we will let me
• 1:24:45
  scroll that to the top and we will run this down one last go
• 1:24:51
  and wraer on U and it begins is our number one angels of this.
• 1:24:58
  Let me switch to this where I can see everything.
• 1:25:00
  Anna begins is our #1 angels of the silences along December
• 1:25:05
  rain. King Sullivan, St.
• 1:25:06
  Einstein on the beach for an egg man reigning in Baltimore.
• 1:25:10
  A murder of one round here. Have you seen me lately?
• 1:25:12
  Rounds out our ten. With that, let's let Anna begins
• 1:25:15
  get a moment in the sun. For one time only make an
• 1:25:23
  exception I am not worth. You know, yeah, I think we, we
• 1:25:32
  did the right call there. I it's, it's like Gavin said, it
• 1:25:39
  has that sad thing to it. It's kind of cold, like early
• 1:25:47
  bonaver. I know we were talking about
• 1:25:48
  that last night with. You know when when the
• 1:25:50
  background vocals come in at the end it's so good though.
• 1:25:53
  Yeah. So I I think we.
• 1:25:54
  The warmth comes in at the end. Yeah, I think we, I think we
• 1:25:56
  did. I think we did right here.
• 1:25:59
  It's it's always hard to tell until you until I hit play and
• 1:26:02
  go, Oh, yeah. OK.
• 1:26:04
  All right. So we've done it.
• 1:26:05
  We have turned you on to counting Cross fans, hopefully.
• 1:26:08
  And you know, again, the inclusion of Have You Seen Me
• 1:26:10
  Lately doesn't necessarily disparage other songs, but it
• 1:26:15
  really is primarily go watch the documentary.
• 1:26:17
  Like you might learn something about it about this band.
• 1:26:19
  And it's awesome that they're kind of getting getting a new
• 1:26:24
  moment in the sun, like getting getting revisited by people.
• 1:26:27
  And hopefully we can help you listen to our ten and as
• 1:26:31
  mentioned, I think it is well worth your time.
• 1:26:34
  Listen to the 1st 2 records. And I think it's easy to expand
• 1:26:37
  from there and really just kind of enjoy this band for for what
• 1:26:40
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• 1:26:42
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• 1:26:45
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• 1:26:50
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