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- 0:08Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three
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- 0:15Speaker 1: I am Chad Molement of the Action Network. I'm live
- 0:18Speaker 1: from my Tommy John home studio and I'm joined as
- 0:23Speaker 1: always by my co host, my companion, Mi Compadre, and
- 0:26Speaker 1: my bff Professional Better Simon and Hunter Etro. Simon, Chad,
- 0:31Speaker 1: how are we doing, dude? I got to share with
- 0:34Speaker 1: you my past seventeen eighteen twenty hours, uh, because it's
- 0:42Speaker 1: truly insane. I got a buddy. His name is Kenny Dictor.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Kenny is a serial, brilliant, enthusiastic, force of nature entrepreneur
- 0:55Speaker 1: who is hyper connected in sports media business. He started
- 1:00Speaker 1: a company called Wheels Up, the private jet company. Right, So,
- 1:04Speaker 1: I've gotten to know Kenny a little bit over the
- 1:07Speaker 1: past couple of years. He's starting a new business called
- 1:09Speaker 1: Real SLX, and it's all about taking his superpower, which
- 1:13Speaker 1: is creating experiences and getting people involved in these once
- 1:20Speaker 1: in a lifetime experience at really big events. The best
- 1:23Speaker 1: experiences are the best experiences, and so you know, he
- 1:26Speaker 1: did something at the Super Bowl last year with Reyo's
- 1:28Speaker 1: probably one of the best Super Bowl events I've ever
- 1:32Speaker 1: been to Simon, You and I are going to be
- 1:33Speaker 1: doing stuff there this year at the Super Bowl. So
- 1:36Speaker 1: he called me on Monday and he says, I got
- 1:41Speaker 1: tickets to the Auburn duke game Wednesday night, Auburn number two,
- 1:46Speaker 1: duke number nine, Cooper Flag all that We're going to
- 1:51Speaker 1: fly down private Wednesday afternoon. We're going to have dinner,
- 1:57Speaker 1: we're going to go to the game. We'll fly back
- 1:59Speaker 1: that night. How do you say no to that?
- 2:02Speaker 2: Right?
- 2:02Speaker 1: Like in a million years, when would I be like, Yeah,
- 2:06Speaker 1: I'm going to go down to Durham, North Carolina the
- 2:09Speaker 1: day before show and I'm gonna, you know, fly private,
- 2:15Speaker 1: go to dinner, and come back that night. But of
- 2:18Speaker 1: course I said yes, you can't not say yes to that. Dude,
- 2:23Speaker 1: flew down we land, we go to go to dinner,
- 2:26Speaker 1: go to this place called Nana's in Durham, which was ridiculous,
- 2:32Speaker 1: and then we're at the game. They were about eight
- 2:33Speaker 1: of us. Kenny had a bunch of tickets and a
- 2:35Speaker 1: bunch of guys that I know and like a lot
- 2:37Speaker 1: some guys who I've met through Kenny who worked with Kenny,
- 2:40Speaker 1: a buddy of mine, namely Fitting who I used to
- 2:42Speaker 1: work with the ESPN. Now everyone's content at WWE. The
- 2:46Speaker 1: tickets were no joke. First row, baseline, under the basket,
- 2:53Speaker 1: like feet on the floor, talking to the ref during
- 2:57Speaker 1: the breaks. My kids sending me pictures of him seeing
- 3:03Speaker 1: me on TV because every time a team is scoring,
- 3:08Speaker 1: the camera crosses my face. It was truly insane and
- 3:14Speaker 1: the game was off the hook. Like I've been to
- 3:17Speaker 1: Cameron before, it's an incredible experience. I went to Duke
- 3:21Speaker 1: UNC a couple of years ago with my younger son
- 3:25Speaker 1: and it was loud and crazy, and the Cameron crazies
- 3:28Speaker 1: really are truly insane, and it's a must do experience
- 3:34Speaker 1: for sports fans. I was sitting next to this guy
- 3:37Speaker 1: who's had these tickets for thirty years. He's a beer
- 3:40Speaker 1: distributor who supplies Cameron and the football stadium. He was
- 3:46Speaker 1: saying that that game last night was the loudest game
- 3:48Speaker 1: he's ever heard. It was ear splitting, how insane it was.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Duke Winn's great game. Get back on the plane at midnight, No,
- 3:58Speaker 1: get back on the plane at twelve forty five. I've
- 4:01Speaker 1: land in Westchester to get home at four am. Now
- 4:04Speaker 1: we're doing the show it was. It was once in
- 4:08Speaker 1: a lifetime amazing. Chad Millman is proud of himself.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Yeah, great game, cool night. I'm going to tell of
- 4:15Speaker 2: a story.
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- 5:16Speaker 1: We do like to hear are the wise guys are
- 5:18Speaker 1: responding to our Tuesday conversation. That's how influential we are
- 5:23Speaker 1: the Lanser movement. Based in our conversations, the pros feel
- 5:27Speaker 1: compelled to weigh in on our opinions. Simon, let's do
- 5:32Speaker 1: shark calls.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Hello, who's there? I'm talking Rain.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Rain telephone range. Somebody said, maybe.
- 5:42Speaker 3: What you do man?
- 5:45Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start off with a Thursday game shocked to No.
- 5:48Speaker 2: One professionals like Green Bay. We've seen now that a
- 5:51Speaker 2: couple books have moved into three. Then they get hit
- 5:53Speaker 2: by other professionals. You bump it right back up to
- 5:55Speaker 2: three and a half. So it's obviously a game that's split,
- 5:59Speaker 2: but so far, to me, it seems like it's more
- 6:01Speaker 2: so every probably talked to likexus green Bay side for
- 6:04Speaker 2: exactly what we've talked about. So so unfortunately, it's another
- 6:07Speaker 2: Thursday we love and I feel like we're gonna nail.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Can't put in the contest, So just just another good line.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Though it's a three and a half, I still think
- 6:15Speaker 2: that's the key there. Let's go to a game that
- 6:18Speaker 2: you loved. I loved, and now we've seen this number
- 6:20Speaker 2: move a ton, right this Minnesota game. Every guy I
- 6:23Speaker 2: talked to for good reason likes the Vikings for what
- 6:26Speaker 2: we really talked about, right, it's it's a bad match
- 6:29Speaker 2: up for Kirk in that offense. We've seen now too.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Sam Darnold as bad as he was right for those
- 6:37Speaker 2: couple of weeks stretches, he's kind of go into a
- 6:39Speaker 2: little bit of a groove. Yeah, I mean he seems
- 6:41Speaker 2: like he's comfortable again. So not shocking that that number
- 6:44Speaker 2: util I gave it out. I think at five. It's
- 6:46Speaker 2: not the six at a lot of books. So, uh,
- 6:48Speaker 2: that's a game we'll definitely most likely end up with
- 6:50Speaker 2: the contest. Yeah. The the game that really jumped out
- 6:54Speaker 2: to me was just because we were at the time
- 6:56Speaker 2: on the other side was that Chiefs game. Every probably
- 6:58Speaker 2: talked to you right now really likes the chief side. It's
- 7:01Speaker 2: looking more and more like the Chargers is kind of
- 7:03Speaker 2: the Joe public side, Which isn't that shocking right now?
- 7:06Speaker 2: Mean you are on the public side on that Bear side.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Most pros I talk to have our view of it
- 7:10Speaker 2: where this is a spot to take this forty nine
- 7:13Speaker 2: Ers team. So interesting here you're reviewing this game now,
- 7:16Speaker 2: there were a couple of days later another one that
- 7:18Speaker 2: we knew that pros would beyond the Jets, mean chat,
- 7:21Speaker 2: I don't think it changes my opinion. I still like Miami.
- 7:23Speaker 2: I think they're just just keep on chasing that same
- 7:26Speaker 2: thing with this Jets team every week.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Dude, I got so many I can't wait to talk
- 7:31Speaker 1: about that game.
- 7:32Speaker 2: And then obviously a game I love. The professionals, though,
- 7:35Speaker 2: were pretty split on it. That Cleveland Brown Pittsburgh game.
- 7:38Speaker 2: All right, hit that horn, babe, let's dance. There's still
- 7:42Speaker 2: a one book in Jersey or that has a seven,
- 7:44Speaker 2: which is pretty shocking. I really thought this would be
- 7:46Speaker 2: six by today. But we get why they like Pittsburgh.
- 7:49Speaker 2: No one's denying Pittsburgh is a much better team, and
- 7:52Speaker 2: they are at home against that Cleveland team with an
- 7:53Speaker 2: inconsistent quarterback. But my argument to them is just this
- 7:56Speaker 2: number is way too big for this type of divisional matchup.
- 7:59Speaker 2: But I don't know, if you watch that AFC Hard Knocks,
- 8:01Speaker 2: this is like the perfect division to do the hard
- 8:03Speaker 2: knocks on, Like it's just all of it was just
- 8:05Speaker 2: it's just so football, like everything about it was so football,
- 8:09Speaker 2: just talking about how you kind of throw the records
- 8:10Speaker 2: out in these teams and just are so familiar with
- 8:12Speaker 2: each other. So yeah, it's been a good year to
- 8:14Speaker 2: back the dog in this division. I think the pros
- 8:17Speaker 2: are looking at this one are saying, well, it's got
- 8:19Speaker 2: to go the other way at some point. The favorites
- 8:21Speaker 2: can't all not cover in this division this whole year.
- 8:23Speaker 2: So a pretty interesting game there. And the last one aside,
- 8:28Speaker 2: I like, I like the Bills that we knew that
- 8:30Speaker 2: was gonna be heavy public side. It's interesting to hear
- 8:32Speaker 2: how many pros like the Rams here and you know,
- 8:36Speaker 2: talk to a couple of guys I really respect. They
- 8:38Speaker 2: went pretty heavy on the Rams of four and a half.
- 8:41Speaker 2: The books that took that money moved it to three
- 8:43Speaker 2: and a half. Now some other you know, Bills money
- 8:46Speaker 2: has come back in a couple of those books went
- 8:47Speaker 2: back to forth. So uh yeah, really really split weeked
- 8:50Speaker 2: with a couple of these games. Chat what some pros
- 8:53Speaker 2: just are betting the numbers here and other ones are
- 8:54Speaker 2: just taking the value and they can on certain dogs.
- 8:57Speaker 1: All right, Well, good, I'm glad because all these games
- 8:59Speaker 1: are the ones that we want to touch on, and
- 9:04Speaker 1: you know when we get for me, especially when we
- 9:06Speaker 1: get into Wednesdays and do a little more research. The
- 9:09Speaker 1: Bills Rams game definitely stuck out, Chiefs Chargers definitely stuck
- 9:15Speaker 1: out on second thoughts, especially deep into some research yesterday
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- 10:22Speaker 2: Don't delay, sharpen our sword for the battle.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Let's get Roland Simon. I'm calling it right now, Miami
- 10:30Speaker 1: minus six. We're in the foxhole.
- 10:32Speaker 2: You know me, regardless of what's going on. I'm a
- 10:34Speaker 2: foxhole guy. I commit to a team, I commit to
- 10:37Speaker 2: a city. I'm a foxhole guy.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Clearly we're in the foxhole. Taking the Dolphins as six
- 10:42Speaker 1: point favorites. This is the first time that the Jets
- 10:46Speaker 1: have been underdogs since they played the Bills. I think
- 10:50Speaker 1: it was Week six in the middle of October that
- 10:54Speaker 1: included closing his favorites against Houston, Arizona, Pittsburgh. That game
- 11:01Speaker 1: against Buffalo, they the money was pouring in on the Jets.
- 11:04Speaker 1: They had closed as only one and a half point
- 11:07Speaker 1: dogs against the Bills. I don't get it, like it's
- 11:13Speaker 1: a bad team with an old quarterback who's a mobile
- 11:16Speaker 1: who now is going on you know McAfee and saying
- 11:19Speaker 1: we don't have anything to prove, as if to say
- 11:22Speaker 1: I can't be held accountable for the losses. I'm not
- 11:24Speaker 1: doing it for you guys, you're a professional better. What
- 11:30Speaker 1: is wrong with your brethren?
- 11:33Speaker 2: Well, it is also model based, so it's the model
- 11:36Speaker 2: is not taken account that, like you just said, everything
- 11:39Speaker 2: is just so negative in that building right now, and
- 11:42Speaker 2: it shows up in the games, right A lot of
- 11:44Speaker 2: those games, you know, even when they have a lead,
- 11:46Speaker 2: they've been falling apart. And it's just not the Rogers
- 11:49Speaker 2: of old, like we talked about, just he's incredibly inconsistent,
- 11:53Speaker 2: and I think their view of it is just that
- 11:57Speaker 2: this team every week is undervalued because of that their model,
- 12:00Speaker 2: and that you know, I'll be in first to a minute,
- 12:03Speaker 2: I got burned by this team coming into the season.
- 12:05Speaker 2: I overrated them simply because of the model, Like I
- 12:09Speaker 2: had a high grade on them. And you know, it
- 12:12Speaker 2: also screwed me with the forty nine ers because the
- 12:14Speaker 2: forty niners just rolled them week one. It made me
- 12:16Speaker 2: in turn overright the forty nine ers and think, well,
- 12:20Speaker 2: this team and the Jets, they'll bounce back against these
- 12:23Speaker 2: bad teams, and they kind of did, and it made
- 12:25Speaker 2: me think, Okay, this is who I thought they were
- 12:26Speaker 2: going to be. And then they fell off a total cliff, right.
- 12:29Speaker 2: I mean they literally have three wins at this point,
- 12:30Speaker 2: like you just said. So I think that's the issue,
- 12:33Speaker 2: chat is that, you know, the professionals have loved them
- 12:36Speaker 2: all year, They've lost a ton of money, and they're
- 12:38Speaker 2: kind of chasing that money. It seems like to me.
- 12:40Speaker 2: That's that's my view of it, because I'm with you.
- 12:42Speaker 2: I don't really understand the betting here and the market,
- 12:45Speaker 2: but it's unfortunate that the books haven't shifted. Like I said,
- 12:48Speaker 2: five and a half would have been amazing if they
- 12:51Speaker 2: would just would have gave us that number. But it
- 12:52Speaker 2: seems like they're just gonna hold you at this six
- 12:55Speaker 2: right now with Miami. So I'm with you. I love
- 12:58Speaker 2: this match of Miami to an at home in this
- 13:00Speaker 2: matchup against a defense that has struggle against the pass,
- 13:04Speaker 2: and they've struggled against the run. That's what Miami wants
- 13:06Speaker 2: to do as well. They love to run the ball.
- 13:07Speaker 2: That just opens up everything obviously downfield for the pass.
- 13:10Speaker 2: And we've talked about we've seen Miami now since two
- 13:12Speaker 2: has been back, just beat up on these bad teams
- 13:14Speaker 2: and even good teams. Right, They've held into some games
- 13:17Speaker 2: like that. I wish I had taken more from that
- 13:19Speaker 2: Bills game. When Tua drove down the field, it was
- 13:21Speaker 2: like that was a big moment for him on the
- 13:23Speaker 2: road against that Bills team that didn't get enough credit
- 13:25Speaker 2: for it. And I mean we've seen they're just a
- 13:28Speaker 2: different team they were earlier in the year. So I'm
- 13:31Speaker 2: loving this as a Fox. So I just like to
- 13:33Speaker 2: be on the Jets in the spot, I mean the Miami.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Yeah, so since firing Robert Sala, the Jests are thirty
- 13:38Speaker 1: first in points allowed per possession their last and EPA
- 13:43Speaker 1: per play. Sauce Gardner might not play this weekend, not
- 13:48Speaker 1: like he tackles when he does play. That team is
- 13:52Speaker 1: in such disarraying. Look, we're talking about it so much
- 13:54Speaker 1: we just may get burned. But too in this spot,
- 13:59Speaker 1: I mentioned this on Tuesday, Miami and Tua beat up
- 14:03Speaker 1: on bad teams as favorites at home seven and one.
- 14:07Speaker 1: The Jets are a bad team, folks, There's just no
- 14:10Speaker 1: two ways about it. So the big money will pour
- 14:13Speaker 1: in on the Jets on Sunday. We've seen it every
- 14:17Speaker 1: single Sunday for the reasons. Someone just said, you make
- 14:20Speaker 1: a great point. We've talked about this a lot on
- 14:22Speaker 1: the show, like rankings are hard to completely change in
- 14:29Speaker 1: the middle of a season, right, it's gonna happen. It's
- 14:33Speaker 1: like you tightrate off of drugs, right, Like you can't
- 14:35Speaker 1: just go from fifty milligrams to zero milligrams. You gotta
- 14:38Speaker 1: go from fifty to forty to thirty to twenty to ten.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Like that's what happens with these rankings, and no one
- 14:46Speaker 1: can go fast enough to catch up with how bad
- 14:49Speaker 1: and sort of discombobulated the New York Jets are so.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Well, the fear is you overadjust Like obviously we talked
- 14:56Speaker 2: about that when we took a beating back in the
- 15:00Speaker 2: Panthers early in the year. But you're seeing why because
- 15:04Speaker 2: of what this team can be when Bryce Young is
- 15:06Speaker 2: what I thought he was going to be coming out
- 15:08Speaker 2: of the season, which is an open offense that had
- 15:10Speaker 2: been a much better team that The biggest issue I've
- 15:13Speaker 2: had definitely personally this season has just been the adjustments
- 15:17Speaker 2: to these bad teams are really bad. Right. There's just
- 15:20Speaker 2: some really poor coaching right now in the NFL, and
- 15:23Speaker 2: not just enough to injuries. Right, This Carolina team we
- 15:26Speaker 2: should have justin were in the year when they lost
- 15:28Speaker 2: a lot of their defense, Like they had major injuries
- 15:30Speaker 2: to their defense and I hadn't adjust to it. So
- 15:32Speaker 2: there are things like that. But like I said, you
- 15:34Speaker 2: don't want to overadjust because we would have missed these
- 15:36Speaker 2: last three weeks on this Panthers team, right, we would
- 15:38Speaker 2: have totally been out on them if I had over
- 15:40Speaker 2: adjusted their number and underrated the value. So the same
- 15:43Speaker 2: thing is going to hear with this Jets team. I
- 15:44Speaker 2: just think guys are stubborn dug in on the exact
- 15:47Speaker 2: number they have with this team.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned Carolina. Carolina is a twelve and a
- 15:51Speaker 1: half point dog at Philly. Like it's an interesting week
- 15:56Speaker 1: for us. I feel like there are a couple of
- 15:57Speaker 1: games and we're going to talk about the other ones
- 16:01Speaker 1: in years past. They are auto plays, big number against
- 16:06Speaker 1: a super hype team, a team that we've been loving
- 16:09Speaker 1: all year. Caroline is twelve and a half at Philly,
- 16:12Speaker 1: And on Tuesday we talked about it, and we liked Philly,
- 16:15Speaker 1: we liked Carolina like or at least we're leaning that way,
- 16:19Speaker 1: but we didn't go all in. We didn't like immediately
- 16:22Speaker 1: bet it. You didn't call it assigmon says the number
- 16:24Speaker 1: had come down a little bit. There are some trends
- 16:27Speaker 1: that's sort of backfading the hot team here, but I
- 16:34Speaker 1: can't get there. Like as much as we love how
- 16:37Speaker 1: Bryce Young has improved, like this is not the Saints
- 16:41Speaker 1: or the Boxer, even the Chiefs, Like with an underperforming secondary,
- 16:45Speaker 1: an undermanned offense, and a terrible right tackle and left tackle,
- 16:51Speaker 1: like namely a defense you'd like to face less than
- 16:55Speaker 1: the Eagles right now. Jalen Carter and Milton Williams are
- 16:58Speaker 1: Pro Football focuses third and fourth rated defensive tackles rushing
- 17:02Speaker 1: the passer. Zach Bond the linebacker. He's the fifth highest
- 17:07Speaker 1: rated player in coverage, not amongst the linebackers, amongst all players,
- 17:15Speaker 1: and he's a freaking linebacker. Like the Eagles are given
- 17:18Speaker 1: up six point one eight yards per pass attempt, and
- 17:24Speaker 1: then the Panthers defense, while it's getting healthier, it's really
- 17:27Speaker 1: just terrible against the run, you know, basically bottom three.
- 17:32Speaker 1: And that's being generous. Like if you average every overall number,
- 17:35Speaker 1: Saquon could get two thousand yards for the season. By
- 17:39Speaker 1: the end of this game, he could have five hundred yards.
- 17:41Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think we want to bet
- 17:44Speaker 1: the Panthers based on the number, but I feel like
- 17:48Speaker 1: we're going to eat it.
- 17:50Speaker 2: That's very like just the off the field stuff though,
- 17:55Speaker 2: like the human side of it, or where this is
- 17:57Speaker 2: a game where they just played the Ravens. Now they're
- 18:00Speaker 2: playing against a three and nine Panthers team at home
- 18:02Speaker 2: a week before they go and play a Pittsburgh team,
- 18:06Speaker 2: Like this is such an in between game where it's
- 18:08Speaker 2: like spot it really is. It doesn't get more trapped
- 18:11Speaker 2: than this. That's another really glaring spot where I like it.
- 18:15Speaker 2: The reason I didn't really bang your head about this one,
- 18:17Speaker 2: it's just because I wanted the thirteen and I've been
- 18:20Speaker 2: pissed off, where like the professionals have kind of held
- 18:22Speaker 2: it under the thirteen, Like the highest we're getting right
- 18:24Speaker 2: now and most books is twelve and a half. Where
- 18:26Speaker 2: it's like, you know, no one's taking like you just said,
- 18:29Speaker 2: no one's taking Carolina. You think everyone in the world
- 18:32Speaker 2: doesn't feel the same as you. The only people I
- 18:33Speaker 2: know are obviously professionals taking this Carolina spot. It's just
- 18:37Speaker 2: it's such a spot to take them because of the
- 18:39Speaker 2: in between and the fact that this offense, like you
- 18:42Speaker 2: just said, Okay, they're not the best team obviously defensively,
- 18:48Speaker 2: but we've seen it change offensively with the passing game.
- 18:51Speaker 2: And you know, as much as I say out great,
- 18:53Speaker 2: this Seagos defense is they're young. I mean they had
- 18:56Speaker 2: you know, they've had a couple injuries as well to
- 18:58Speaker 2: this defenses as well, Iklan Ship, Brandon Graham and a
- 19:03Speaker 2: young defense that's feeling themselves right now. Where there were
- 19:06Speaker 2: guys open. I don't want to say Lamar lost that
- 19:08Speaker 2: game last week, but he did miss open receivers and
- 19:12Speaker 2: their kicker. If he had made those kicks, it's a
- 19:14Speaker 2: much different game right towards end there, Like the Eagles,
- 19:16Speaker 2: you know, they're up fourteen to twelve, and then Justin
- 19:18Speaker 2: Tucker missed that field goal the when they should ed
- 19:20Speaker 2: up fifteen twelve, and then because you missed it, bank
- 19:23Speaker 2: Eagles were down the red zone. Saquon ran it in
- 19:24Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, totally different game now, right it
- 19:27Speaker 2: was twenty one to twelve at that point. So I
- 19:30Speaker 2: do think this Eagles team is just a little overrated
- 19:32Speaker 2: right now, where it's like, yeah, are they very good?
- 19:35Speaker 2: Are they should they be said to be the best
- 19:37Speaker 2: team in NFC? Right now. Yeah, because they're healthy, right,
- 19:39Speaker 2: Detroit had so many injuries. I get the respect to him.
- 19:42Speaker 2: I just think it's gone through far at this point.
- 19:43Speaker 2: That's the whole point for me with this one, where
- 19:45Speaker 2: it's like the Stummer should be closer to ten. It's
- 19:47Speaker 2: a nice in between spot where you expect them not
- 19:50Speaker 2: to overlook this Panthers team, but how can they not? Right,
- 19:53Speaker 2: It's the human element of it, where it's like you
- 19:55Speaker 2: just took down the big bad wolf of the Ravens,
- 19:58Speaker 2: like a team that Lamar only in his whole career,
- 20:01Speaker 2: only lost one time to an NFC team, and you
- 20:03Speaker 2: smacked them. You're feeling good all week, you're home now
- 20:06Speaker 2: against the Panthers. You're not gonna look ahead to Pittsburgh
- 20:09Speaker 2: when you know that's literally the last tough game when
- 20:11Speaker 2: they're s I mean watching it's tough, obviously, but that
- 20:14Speaker 2: really is going to decide their one seed because Detroit here,
- 20:17Speaker 2: if they dropped us to Green Ben and they got
- 20:18Speaker 2: Buffalo next week really quickly, the Eagles could become this
- 20:21Speaker 2: one seed. So I feel like it's a lot to
- 20:24Speaker 2: weigh on this young team of this Philadelphia. So for
- 20:27Speaker 2: all that chat, that's the only reason I'm like, Okay,
- 20:29Speaker 2: maybe I'll commitch you comes Sunday they take this Panthers team.
- 20:32Speaker 2: But it's really it's about the number. It's like, if
- 20:35Speaker 2: I'm not getting a great number here, Okay, we want
- 20:37Speaker 2: we don't have to put it in. But if this
- 20:39Speaker 2: is up to thirteen and a half contest Sunday, Chad,
- 20:41Speaker 2: I'm gonna probably be an asshole and be like, we
- 20:43Speaker 2: got to put this in, blah blah blah. Yeah.
- 20:45Speaker 1: But by the way, I feel like the thirteen was
- 20:49Speaker 1: the line of demarcation for me, and I'm trying to
- 20:51Speaker 1: be really disciplined as we head into the end of
- 20:54Speaker 1: the year and not not chase feelings and put them
- 21:01Speaker 1: into numbers. Right, we missed the best of the number. Thirteen
- 21:06Speaker 1: feels better to me.
- 21:07Speaker 2: And we talked about so the number has not burned
- 21:09Speaker 2: us this year. The only US are three and Two's. Look,
- 21:13Speaker 2: it's been a really weird year where these big numbers
- 21:15Speaker 2: have not mattered.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Old habits die hard and for.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Justin for this season, I agree with you. But for
- 21:21Speaker 2: this season it's just been twos and threes that have
- 21:23Speaker 2: really matter. Everything else not so much.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Look, it's it's funny you say that, Like you can
- 21:29Speaker 1: look in the Action app and there's a really cool
- 21:30Speaker 1: feature that tells you your sort of performance against the
- 21:33Speaker 1: closing line value and your ROI against the closing line value,
- 21:37Speaker 1: and like it's it comes into play so infrequently, but
- 21:42Speaker 1: you still want it, Like, yeah, you don't want to
- 21:45Speaker 1: buy high and sell low. You want to get the
- 21:47Speaker 1: best of the number. You want to feel better on
- 21:48Speaker 1: Sunday morning. I want to see in the app that
- 21:50Speaker 1: I've got it at thirteen and a half and now
- 21:51Speaker 1: it's at twelve and a half and all those kinds
- 21:54Speaker 1: of things I.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Told you, stuper gamling of ass. When you lose a
- 21:56Speaker 2: Betty go, well, at least I had the best of
- 21:57Speaker 2: the number. It's that's that's the main part of it.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, I've never said that in my life.
- 22:03Speaker 1: When I lose a game, I'm like, are you fucking
- 22:06Speaker 1: kidding me? Why did I even care about this number?
- 22:08Speaker 1: Why did I like race to bet this to beat
- 22:11Speaker 1: the move when it didn't even matter. I don't disagree
- 22:15Speaker 1: with anything you're saying. I feel skittish about I think
- 22:20Speaker 1: this Eagles team, and I felt this way last week.
- 22:23Speaker 1: I think it's on an upward trajectory. I think the
- 22:25Speaker 1: way they're playing minimizes their weaknesses, which is really Jalen
- 22:29Speaker 1: Hurts as a passer. I think their defensive line is
- 22:32Speaker 1: so good that that minimizes the emotional up and down
- 22:37Speaker 1: because when you're playing physical, you're playing physical, right, That's
- 22:39Speaker 1: not about what happens on the edge. And I think
- 22:42Speaker 1: I think skilled players, to me are more inclined to
- 22:46Speaker 1: be prone to emotional roller coaster mistakes than players are
- 22:51Speaker 1: the defensive line, and their defensive line is just so good.
- 22:53Speaker 1: So that's my fear. But look, we'll talk about it
- 22:56Speaker 1: on Sunday. We'll see where we land. Atlanta at Minnesota.
- 23:00Speaker 1: My exec decision. I did it with clarity and confidence.
- 23:04Speaker 1: If I recall, and as you know, as you've said,
- 23:07Speaker 1: the wise guys are with me. It's moved up since
- 23:09Speaker 1: the show, in fact, as the show is happening at
- 23:12Speaker 1: moved from five to five and a half. It is
- 23:14Speaker 1: a pros Joe split tickets on the Falcons money on Minnesota.
- 23:18Speaker 1: I guess, as you've noted, the public is buying into
- 23:21Speaker 1: the very lazy, fascile Kirk Cousins revenge narrative. We disagree, Yeah,
- 23:31Speaker 1: we know that it would.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Though, it's just it's the lowest of hanging fruit and
- 23:34Speaker 2: that's the easiest fruit to grab. So yeah, yeah, this
- 23:38Speaker 2: one's shocking to me because I really didn't think it
- 23:40Speaker 2: would get back to six, especially where you know you're
- 23:42Speaker 2: able to get four and a half when you were
- 23:44Speaker 2: talking about on Tuesday, like that's that's a great number now,
- 23:46Speaker 2: especially now that it is touching six and a lot
- 23:48Speaker 2: of books, and you know, for me, this matchup, it's
- 23:53Speaker 2: it's really all about, like we just said, the defense
- 23:56Speaker 2: here where I do have faith now in this Viking offenses.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Sam Darnold's got more comfortable, but this defense I just
- 24:04Speaker 2: can't get it out of my head where it's like,
- 24:05Speaker 2: isn't this the perfect matchup for them against Kirk, I
- 24:08Speaker 2: guy they know in their style is what gives him fits.
- 24:12Speaker 2: It just feels like it's that's the fear is it
- 24:14Speaker 2: feels too easy chat because it's like five and a
- 24:17Speaker 2: half stilled a lot of books. It feels like a
- 24:19Speaker 2: gift like we always talk about where it's like it's
- 24:21Speaker 2: still blow this key number of six, you know, them
- 24:25Speaker 2: rolling them, blowing them out, or this coming down to
- 24:29Speaker 2: they're up fourteen and Kirk gets the late touchdown and
- 24:32Speaker 2: they get the two pointer and it Land's right on six.
- 24:35Speaker 2: That sounds about right. So that's why I think the
- 24:37Speaker 2: number should be six. It's like, that's that's where this
- 24:39Speaker 2: game's gonna go. So yeah, if you if you took
- 24:44Speaker 2: like I threw a little in Atlanto. I mean there
- 24:46Speaker 2: was one book that had the six last Sunday when
- 24:49Speaker 2: we talked about it. Obviously my bets have dwarfed that
- 24:52Speaker 2: for this Minnesota side. If you were stubborn you do,
- 24:56Speaker 2: like Atlanta, I would just wait like every product talk
- 24:59Speaker 2: was coming in on this Viking side for the most part.
- 25:02Speaker 2: So it's like if they're gonna keep taking respected money,
- 25:04Speaker 2: they'll keep bumping it up, and you know the public,
- 25:08Speaker 2: they'll come in on their teasers. Right, this is like
- 25:11Speaker 2: this in Miami. It's gonna be a big tease team.
- 25:13Speaker 2: They're both at six. Everyone's gonna take it down to
- 25:15Speaker 2: a pick. That's just what people like to do on
- 25:17Speaker 2: their teasers. So this could easily keep going up. So
- 25:20Speaker 2: if you're like me and chatty, like Minnesota, grab the
- 25:23Speaker 2: five and a half while you still can, if you
- 25:24Speaker 2: haven't already.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Yeah, the things that Kirk cousins struggles against the most
- 25:30Speaker 1: pressure in the pocket are what the Vikings excel at.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Right He's facing a defense that is fourth in sacks,
- 25:37Speaker 1: third in QB pressures, second in blitz rate, also the
- 25:42Speaker 1: top ranked defense for rushing efficiency defending rushers inside the tackles,
- 25:47Speaker 1: number two outside the tackles. The most effective weapon the
- 25:52Speaker 1: Falcons actually have right now isn't Kirk Cousins, isn't Drake London.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Definitely isn't Kyle Pitts. It's John Robinson playing like a
- 26:01Speaker 1: pro bowler. But that also plays with the Viking strengths.
- 26:04Speaker 1: And I think that the wise guy. See what we
- 26:06Speaker 1: see about Kirk is how terrible he was against the
- 26:10Speaker 1: Chargers when they really weren't getting any pressure, and that
- 26:15Speaker 1: unless he's playing the Bucks, he's kind of having a
- 26:18Speaker 1: terrible year. And so this is a I am a
- 26:21Speaker 1: little bit worried. It's funny, you know, I said, I'm
- 26:24Speaker 1: trying to be more disciplined. I'm also trying to be
- 26:29Speaker 1: more disciplined with the bank roll. And I got this
- 26:32Speaker 1: at five, but I didn't put I know, I got
- 26:35Speaker 1: it a five and a half. I didn't put a
- 26:37Speaker 1: ton on because I was kind of hoping it would
- 26:38Speaker 1: come down to five. And now I got to make
- 26:41Speaker 1: a decision. Do I just increase the amount of money
- 26:44Speaker 1: I'm putting on at a five and a half, which
- 26:45Speaker 1: I'm going to because I wanted to get a little
- 26:48Speaker 1: bit better number. I'm not going to get it. I'm
- 26:51Speaker 1: going to have to live with the five and a half.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Yeah, And with Kirk, I'll just say whatever's gone along.
- 26:58Speaker 2: He has been awful the last three weeks, even after
- 27:01Speaker 2: coming out of that bio. I mean he you know,
- 27:04Speaker 2: no touchdowns, no touchdowns, six picks, six picks, just been
- 27:10Speaker 2: a disaster. And you know, you think only it's only
- 27:14Speaker 2: the people in media saying Michael Pennox's name, Like there's
- 27:17Speaker 2: obviously gonna be whispers in that locker room. That's someone
- 27:19Speaker 2: they see every day in practice, that apparently has looked
- 27:22Speaker 2: pretty good all year in practice and even coming to
- 27:24Speaker 2: the year. Remember they sat him, Yeah, it was the
- 27:27Speaker 2: second week of August because there was obviously a fear
- 27:30Speaker 2: even then with Kirk coming back from this injury, and
- 27:33Speaker 2: it's just different, like he just does not have the step,
- 27:36Speaker 2: he doesn't step in the throw the same zip on
- 27:38Speaker 2: the ball, with everything that goes into it. So, yeah, Chad,
- 27:41Speaker 2: this is one I can guarantee people is gonna be
- 27:43Speaker 2: in our contestespecially a five and a half.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Well, look, if you're also watching Caleb Williams the last
- 27:48Speaker 1: three games really developing, if you've seen Jayden Daniels playing well,
- 27:53Speaker 1: if you've seen Drake may ballin, if you've seen bo
- 27:57Speaker 1: Nicks playing like a pro like truly developing, You're gonna
- 28:03Speaker 1: be like, if the rookie quarterbacks are this developed and
- 28:05Speaker 1: Michael Pennix is on that plane, we want to know,
- 28:09Speaker 1: we want to see it, we want to take advantage
- 28:10Speaker 1: of it. And by the way, the next offensive coordinator,
- 28:14Speaker 1: head coach at quarterback who can figure out how to
- 28:16Speaker 1: use Kyle Pitts might go into the Hall of Fame
- 28:18Speaker 1: because he's now going through multiple levels of coaches, quarterbacks
- 28:22Speaker 1: and coordinators who cannot figure out how to get him
- 28:24Speaker 1: involved in the offense.
- 28:26Speaker 2: So do you think we ever see any teams ever
- 28:29Speaker 2: after Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins coming back from their
- 28:32Speaker 2: achilles ever give money to a quarterback after the edge
- 28:34Speaker 2: of what thirty five thirty six with a coming off
- 28:37Speaker 2: an achilles?
- 28:38Speaker 1: Of course we will, we one hundred percent will because
- 28:41Speaker 1: everyone believes they can be the one to turn it around.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Everyone's got a god complex, everyone is hoping, everyone is
- 28:50Speaker 1: looking for the handrail on the roller coaster. Of course
- 28:52Speaker 1: we're going to do it. There's not a question in
- 28:54Speaker 1: my mind. Past glory will always remain Chicago, San Francisco.
- 29:00Speaker 1: It's interesting you say the Bears are four point dogs
- 29:04Speaker 1: here and better number than we got on Tuesday. So
- 29:08Speaker 1: the wise gun money has come in on the Niners.
- 29:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:10Speaker 1: We actually asked on Tuesday is the value on the Niners?
- 29:14Speaker 1: And you said that it's feeling very public. The Bears
- 29:18Speaker 1: and the Seahawks are shaping up to be the biggest
- 29:20Speaker 1: public dogs of the week. If you're looking at the splits,
- 29:23Speaker 1: seventy three percent of the tickets on the Bears, sixty
- 29:27Speaker 1: percent of the money on the Niners. Like, I think
- 29:33Speaker 1: the Niners are in real trouble physically, and I still
- 29:39Speaker 1: think I like the Bears.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm letting you kind of drive this boney
- 29:43Speaker 2: where I was just happy to sit this on out
- 29:46Speaker 2: because it's like, I want to be with you on
- 29:47Speaker 2: the Bears. But when I'm talking to every guy who's
- 29:50Speaker 2: saying exactly what I said, which is in my lifetime.
- 29:53Speaker 2: This is a spot I hammer this forty nine ers
- 29:56Speaker 2: team like this is always a spot I take this team,
- 29:58Speaker 2: especially at this number. But my pause is what we
- 30:03Speaker 2: talked about. The Foyners have so much bullshit going on
- 30:05Speaker 2: off the field outside their injuries. You know, this the
- 30:09Speaker 2: turmoil of the drama right now. I mean their media
- 30:12Speaker 2: falling along and seeing everything going on, the conversations being had,
- 30:16Speaker 2: even Kyle Shannon's demeanor. It's like, this is the team
- 30:19Speaker 2: that went to the super Bowl last year. They just
- 30:20Speaker 2: feel like everything's totally different this year. Confidence is totally
- 30:24Speaker 2: gone by Shanahan m Purdy. The biggest one to me
- 30:28Speaker 2: is what me and you talked about, which just this
- 30:30Speaker 2: Barriers team. It feels like they really fucking hated eber
- 30:33Speaker 2: Through like he's gone, like the ding Dong the Witch
- 30:37Speaker 2: is dead. It seems like that to me is the
- 30:39Speaker 2: biggest thing where it's like, are we reading too much
- 30:42Speaker 2: into it, betting too much on a team that we
- 30:45Speaker 2: expect will come out here and play hard together as
- 30:48Speaker 2: a unit and play for something where I still don't
- 30:51Speaker 2: know what the Foyers are playing for. People are like, well,
- 30:52Speaker 2: they're playing for a playoff spot. They've been playing for
- 30:55Speaker 2: that all season. Like I hate that where it's like
- 30:59Speaker 2: I don't think they have it in them, Like they
- 31:00Speaker 2: just don't seem like they have a dog in the fight.
- 31:02Speaker 2: But yeah, obviously we expect this is their last ditch effort.
- 31:06Speaker 2: This is gonna be their everything game. I get why
- 31:09Speaker 2: the professionals are coming on the forty niner side, but
- 31:11Speaker 2: I just can't get out of what we talked about
- 31:13Speaker 2: how much it seemed like that Bears team hated their
- 31:15Speaker 2: head coach. He's gone. We've seen it before in these
- 31:18Speaker 2: exact spots where teams just play hard for their interim coach.
- 31:21Speaker 2: And I just don't think the Bears are that bad,
- 31:24Speaker 2: Like I feel like, no, no, like they really aren't.
- 31:27Speaker 2: Like they have talent on both sides of the ball,
- 31:29Speaker 2: and we've kind of seen that play out this year
- 31:31Speaker 2: where you know they have covered in what three four
- 31:33Speaker 2: straight weeks and crazy back door you could say, flukey covers.
- 31:38Speaker 2: But it's what we talked about. Kayleb Williams, He's a
- 31:41Speaker 2: guy that never gives up, could push the ball downfield,
- 31:43Speaker 2: and you've seen that now after the Minnesota game where
- 31:46Speaker 2: he came back and that game against Green Bay, Ree
- 31:48Speaker 2: came back in that game against Detroit. At the end
- 31:51Speaker 2: of the day, those games they probably should have won,
- 31:53Speaker 2: maybe came down to the coaching. They've just been playing
- 31:56Speaker 2: so much better these last couple of weeks since Fort
- 31:58Speaker 2: n iras team. So not go bullyis Chad, I'll stick
- 32:01Speaker 2: with you. I'll grab the plus four with Chicago.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess at the end of the day, if
- 32:06Speaker 1: we're talking about we always like playing teams when they're
- 32:11Speaker 1: dogs and they have a new coach, and that we've
- 32:15Speaker 1: we've seen that win consistently. We saw it happen again
- 32:18Speaker 1: this year with New Orleans, right, and New Orleans has
- 32:20Speaker 1: less talent than the Bears. I think there's a lightness
- 32:27Speaker 1: in that locker room and relief for that team and joy.
- 32:33Speaker 1: They'll just play with, you know, unabandoned joy, knowing that
- 32:39Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about earber Fluse fucking it
- 32:42Speaker 1: up at the end of the game.
- 32:44Speaker 2: More than they probably want to show that he was
- 32:45Speaker 2: the problem. Right, Oh for sure. Yeah, also for that
- 32:50Speaker 2: hell Mary, and think how long ago that was?
- 32:52Speaker 1: Will they hold They've been they've been snatching losses from
- 32:56Speaker 1: the jaws of victory. For a month in the most crazy, awkward,
- 33:03Speaker 1: inane ways. So the Bills will be on the list.
- 33:06Speaker 1: I mean, what's scary right now, Simon, is We've got
- 33:10Speaker 1: on our list two you know, mid sized favorites in
- 33:16Speaker 1: Minnesota and Miami. So we're playing with fire a little
- 33:23Speaker 1: bit here, especially since one of the other games we
- 33:26Speaker 1: like the other day, Buffalo is a four point favorite
- 33:29Speaker 1: at the RAMS. I gotta tell you what. We talked
- 33:31Speaker 1: about it on Tuesday. I felt pretty confident. By the
- 33:36Speaker 1: time I closed my computer yesterday, much less confident. The
- 33:42Speaker 1: line had moved in the Rams direction all of a sudden.
- 33:47Speaker 1: I was just feeling like, are we at the peak
- 33:50Speaker 1: of the Bills market. I know we'd like them to
- 33:52Speaker 1: win in these spots, and that they do tend to
- 33:54Speaker 1: cover in these spots, but they just came off a
- 33:57Speaker 1: stretch where they had like statement wins against the teams
- 34:00Speaker 1: they have to be in the Niners and the Chiefs
- 34:04Speaker 1: and the Rams are in a knife fight to win
- 34:07Speaker 1: their division and still think they can do it. The
- 34:11Speaker 1: move is on the Rams right now. And you even
- 34:14Speaker 1: said it in sort of sharp calls.
- 34:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I was shocked to talk to a lot of
- 34:18Speaker 2: guys like even yesterday, I'm in the book and talking
- 34:22Speaker 2: a couple of guys who I really respect, and they're
- 34:24Speaker 2: both like, this is our favorite bets of the week
- 34:26Speaker 2: is Rams, And all I could say was like, I've
- 34:28Speaker 2: been there, been there this season where I love the
- 34:31Speaker 2: Rams in this exact spot too, and it's just been
- 34:33Speaker 2: burning me. So they could be right, like you could
- 34:36Speaker 2: be right as well, where it's like, isn't this the
- 34:38Speaker 2: spot to sell this Bills team, especially you know, huge
- 34:41Speaker 2: win last week and they're heading to Detroit after this
- 34:44Speaker 2: game like this, yeah, there, this is the brutal stretcher.
- 34:48Speaker 2: But I can't get out of my mind, Chad, just
- 34:50Speaker 2: that this is Josh Allen's world and we're living in
- 34:54Speaker 2: it right now, and he's kind of broken a lot
- 34:57Speaker 2: of the rules this season. And he was someone where,
- 35:01Speaker 2: you know, I'll be the first to admit it, I
- 35:03Speaker 2: thought we had a pattern growing with him where he
- 35:04Speaker 2: was just going to be the team that beats up
- 35:08Speaker 2: on bad teams and then struggles against the playoff teams.
- 35:11Speaker 2: But that Chiefs game really changed my mind with that
- 35:14Speaker 2: where like, you know, no one beats my homes by
- 35:18Speaker 2: more than seven points, Like they really beat the hell
- 35:20Speaker 2: out of that Chiefs team. And even when I say
- 35:22Speaker 2: the Chiefs teams is not that good, this is a
- 35:24Speaker 2: Bills team that lost twenty to twenty three to that
- 35:27Speaker 2: Houston team. Right, they were down twenty to three at
- 35:29Speaker 2: one point in that game, and the week before that
- 35:31Speaker 2: they got demolished by that Ravens team thirty five to ten.
- 35:34Speaker 2: So it was like we had reasons to question this
- 35:37Speaker 2: Bills team since then. I mean, like you just talked about,
- 35:40Speaker 2: they've been one of the best best teams all football. Mean,
- 35:42Speaker 2: their only close game really was that Miami game, right,
- 35:44Speaker 2: they won what was it thirty to twenty seven something
- 35:48Speaker 2: like that, where it was like Tool had the Miami
- 35:50Speaker 2: in that game. So okay, maybe they still aren't the
- 35:54Speaker 2: best team against playoff teams. This Rams team is not
- 35:57Speaker 2: a playoff team. I mean we can both agree with that.
- 35:59Speaker 2: They're they are just lucky to be at six and
- 36:01Speaker 2: six right now. And yeah, okay, you don't want to
- 36:04Speaker 2: put this one in because it is it does feel
- 36:05Speaker 2: a little trappy. How am I not gonna agree with
- 36:07Speaker 2: you my whole life. I'm always on this other side
- 36:10Speaker 2: with this Rams team. I do just think it's just
- 36:13Speaker 2: Josh Allen's different. I'm confident in them, believe in them,
- 36:17Speaker 2: love the matchup for the run game though. That's the
- 36:19Speaker 2: biggest thing for me is this Rams team. We've seen
- 36:21Speaker 2: it now. You know, if Taysom Hill didn't go buy
- 36:23Speaker 2: of that game, I don't know if they're gonna come
- 36:25Speaker 2: back against that Saints team. Like it feels like the
- 36:27Speaker 2: Saints are kind of finding a groove there moving the ball.
- 36:30Speaker 2: Same with this Bills team. It's like, how do the
- 36:32Speaker 2: Bills not just run for one point fifty against this
- 36:34Speaker 2: Rams defense? I literally cannot stop the run, Like they
- 36:37Speaker 2: have no guys up front that can plug gaps and
- 36:40Speaker 2: really stop stuff. So all right, Chad, if youn't want
- 36:44Speaker 2: to put it in, I totally get it because it
- 36:45Speaker 2: is not a spot we usually take. But it's it's
- 36:48Speaker 2: all right, give me three and a half what the
- 36:49Speaker 2: professionals bet. I'll be the sucker. I'll be like the
- 36:52Speaker 2: Joe public here and I'll take the three and watching
- 36:55Speaker 2: Land right on three and me losing my three and
- 36:56Speaker 2: a half. But I can't help myself here. I'm just
- 36:58Speaker 2: I just love this Bills team and how are playing
- 37:00Speaker 2: right now?
- 37:01Speaker 1: Well, look, we can keep it on the list. It's
- 37:02Speaker 1: not like we have fifteen games.
- 37:05Speaker 2: You're like, am I really gonna make chap of four
- 37:07Speaker 2: favorites in? Look, here's I get it. I get it.
- 37:11Speaker 1: And not just that we're the next game we're going
- 37:15Speaker 1: to talk about which is our big balls. So we
- 37:16Speaker 1: know it's going to go in will be the third
- 37:20Speaker 1: game in a row that is going completely against what
- 37:23Speaker 1: we normally do. So let's let's talk about these as
- 37:26Speaker 1: a package instead of sort of trying to talk about
- 37:30Speaker 1: them individually. But it is time to talk about our
- 37:35Speaker 1: big balls better than we presented by Tommy Jo. If
- 37:41Speaker 1: you've got the balls, Tommy John has the support. Great
- 37:45Speaker 1: games start with great underwear. Tommy John makes the greatest
- 37:51Speaker 1: okay La Chargers four point dogs at Kansas City. Simon,
- 37:59Speaker 1: this is a game that is testing us, testing our faith,
- 38:04Speaker 1: it's testing our fidelity, it's testing our biases because at
- 38:09Speaker 1: first glance, we should love the Chargers, love them physical team,
- 38:16Speaker 1: a good coach, an elite quarterback who doesn't make mistakes.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Since Justin Herbert got healthy, they have been running more
- 38:26Speaker 1: play action, which is getting him much more many more
- 38:30Speaker 1: windows to throw downfield against the Blicks. His QBR has
- 38:34Speaker 1: improved from sixty three to eighty six. But then on Tuesday,
- 38:39Speaker 1: like during the show again in a conversation you and
- 38:43Speaker 1: I had like before the air, before we came on
- 38:47Speaker 1: the air, we couldn't get there. And like for me,
- 38:50Speaker 1: we talked about it on Tuesday. It's really about the injuries.
- 38:53Speaker 1: This team could not move the ball on the ground
- 38:55Speaker 1: after JK. Dobbins went out against the Ravens a couple
- 38:58Speaker 1: weeks ago, and they weren't any better against the Falcons,
- 39:02Speaker 1: like gaining only fifty six yards rushing. Ladd McConkie is
- 39:06Speaker 1: the only receiver who's been doing anything. He's been banged up,
- 39:09Speaker 1: limited in practice, has had shoulder issues all season. Now
- 39:13Speaker 1: he's got a knee injury that's newly diagnosed. We got
- 39:17Speaker 1: to go with the Chiefs.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it really is. The thing we talked
- 39:22Speaker 2: about the Chargers team was really me and you having
- 39:24Speaker 2: a little bit of like we always backed the Chargers
- 39:27Speaker 2: at this number, even earlier this year we took the
- 39:29Speaker 2: seven and a half where.
- 39:29Speaker 1: And always fade the Chiefs at this number.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Right, And it's because it's been good to us, Right,
- 39:33Speaker 2: you're going back. I'm in the action app right, now
- 39:35Speaker 2: you look back in twenty two, they had two matchups.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Both times the Chiefs were favorites greater than three and
- 39:41Speaker 2: a half both times. Herbert Backdoor that covered like he
- 39:45Speaker 2: covered it both times, and that was obviously really good
- 39:48Speaker 2: to us. Now last year you kind of can throw
- 39:50Speaker 2: it out, right, the Chargers had a bunch of injuries
- 39:53Speaker 2: and then the final game of the year. I think
- 39:54Speaker 2: it was the backup playing for the Chiefs and same
- 39:57Speaker 2: for the Chargers, so you know, don't have much go
- 40:01Speaker 2: off that. But this year we've seen it now where
- 40:05Speaker 2: this this Chief's team. Chat to me, they looked burned out.
- 40:08Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I felt like they
- 40:10Speaker 2: were burned out. And I read a really interesting article
- 40:13Speaker 2: the other day about Andy re giving them a little
- 40:16Speaker 2: mini bye week. Right, they had the Friday game and
- 40:19Speaker 2: they gave him off the weekend, had a couple of
- 40:21Speaker 2: guys come in Monday, obviously, but like overall, it seemed
- 40:24Speaker 2: like it was a nice thing to let that team
- 40:26Speaker 2: get away from it because they just look, you know,
- 40:28Speaker 2: beat like that defense getting rolled. It's just not something
- 40:31Speaker 2: we're used to with Spags And like you talked about,
- 40:35Speaker 2: the big thing to me, this Chargers team is out
- 40:37Speaker 2: loss of JK. Dobbins, they had no run game, and
- 40:39Speaker 2: I felt like they had no like I don't know,
- 40:43Speaker 2: not that they've been lucky this year, but they've been
- 40:46Speaker 2: a team that this year have just been able to
- 40:47Speaker 2: run the ball. Like you say, after they can run
- 40:50Speaker 2: it justin Herbert gets the open easy reads because of
- 40:53Speaker 2: the play action pass, and when you take that away,
- 40:55Speaker 2: it just looks so complicated and just awful, and he
- 41:00Speaker 2: looked uncomfortable. And again, this is against a Atlanta team
- 41:02Speaker 2: that's not that great at anything defensively, where this Chiefs
- 41:06Speaker 2: team we've seen as bad as they looked, you know
- 41:09Speaker 2: before that before they started playing bad these last couple weeks,
- 41:11Speaker 2: this is a defense that is really tough to run
- 41:14Speaker 2: on and has a pretty good secondary overall. So yeah,
- 41:18Speaker 2: this really is about playing this matchup and trying not
- 41:20Speaker 2: to overthinking where it's like, Okay, is this the lowest
- 41:24Speaker 2: we can buy right now? In the Chiefs this season,
- 41:25Speaker 2: it kind of feels like it would have been great
- 41:28Speaker 2: if this number got the three. Thought the professionals were
- 41:31Speaker 2: coming on the Chargers, but I told you each other
- 41:33Speaker 2: way most pros I've talked to you at this point
- 41:35Speaker 2: of coming on this Chiefs team. I get their viewpoint,
- 41:37Speaker 2: I get where they're coming from, and it I feel
- 41:39Speaker 2: like in agreeance with them that, Okay, the number moved
- 41:42Speaker 2: too much. If if it isn't three and a half
- 41:44Speaker 2: in contest chat and you don't want to put in
- 41:45Speaker 2: it because it's not three and a half, I get it,
- 41:47Speaker 2: because it's four and a half, it's obviously not ideal.
- 41:49Speaker 2: But I feel like at three and a half, we
- 41:51Speaker 2: might have to put this one in another favor. I
- 41:53Speaker 2: know it's crazy, but it's really all about buying in
- 41:56Speaker 2: these spots on these teams that I feel like the
- 41:57Speaker 2: public is underrating a little bit.
- 42:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, and I think if you
- 42:02Speaker 1: look at the Chief's injury report for the week, which
- 42:05Speaker 1: I did this morning, there's three guys on it. All
- 42:09Speaker 1: three of them were full participants in practice yesterday. Isaiah
- 42:14Speaker 1: Pacheco's not even on it. You know, he came back.
- 42:16Speaker 1: And expectation. Andy Reid is teasing that DJ Humphrey is
- 42:23Speaker 1: going to be starting at tackle left tackle for the
- 42:26Speaker 1: Chiefs and their biggest issue, and we could see it
- 42:29Speaker 1: in the game the other day, even on the touchdown
- 42:32Speaker 1: pass that Patrick Mahomes threw in the second quarter that
- 42:35Speaker 1: sort of awkward pass where he got hit and bent
- 42:38Speaker 1: over like he was yelling at the offensive line about
- 42:43Speaker 1: protecting him on a touchdown pass and yelling at Andy
- 42:47Speaker 1: Reid to get some of these guys to get that
- 42:50Speaker 1: right tackle out of the game. So and Juwan Taylor
- 42:54Speaker 1: constantly getting the same penalty over and over and over again.
- 42:59Speaker 1: So I think they're between the rest between DJ Humphrey
- 43:03Speaker 1: playing Andy Reid has been teasing it, the injuries dissipating.
- 43:08Speaker 1: I think it's the exact right spot. So I'm excited
- 43:12Speaker 1: that we kind of agreed on it. When we were
- 43:13Speaker 1: slacking this morning, I'm like, is he telling me he
- 43:15Speaker 1: doesn't like the Chiefs? Because now I'm in love with
- 43:17Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So I'm glad we could find a mind meld.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Offered up the Chiefs and the Panthers, and you were like,
- 43:24Speaker 2: do you like the Chiefs? Here he goes, yeah, why
- 43:25Speaker 2: would I say them? I didn't know what helly you
- 43:27Speaker 2: were even talking about.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Well, I just got confused because I'm like, I don't know.
- 43:32Speaker 2: Listen, dude, I'm like, I get it, I get it.
- 43:36Speaker 1: I'm want three hours asleep. Yeah, I'm trying to do
- 43:39Speaker 1: the job. I'm trying to do it well, but I
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- 44:55Speaker 1: The last game I want to talk about before we
- 44:57Speaker 1: dig into some round robins and get to evan Is,
- 45:01Speaker 1: Cleveland and Pittsburgh. So this was Simon says, very much
- 45:05Speaker 1: a cell high on Pittsburgh, right. We would do that
- 45:07Speaker 1: even if the other divisional and Tomlin factors didn't exist.
- 45:12Speaker 2: We're gonna go in a tack mode. We will not
- 45:14Speaker 2: go gently. We're gonna unleash he out here in December
- 45:16Speaker 2: because we have to, because that's what's required.
- 45:19Speaker 1: But teams in the Steelers current position, like the Eagles,
- 45:23Speaker 1: who are covering by five points per game, just forty
- 45:25Speaker 1: four percent against the spread against teams with winning percentages
- 45:29Speaker 1: of sixty percent or less, which is what thet with
- 45:32Speaker 1: the Browns have. And then there are Tomlin spots Is
- 45:36Speaker 1: a favorite, you know, in a variety of categories, all
- 45:41Speaker 1: of which have him covering less than forty five percent.
- 45:45Speaker 1: You know, we don't want to back Jamis after he wins.
- 45:48Speaker 1: We do want to back Jamis after he loses. Anything
- 45:51Speaker 1: change for you here.
- 45:52Speaker 2: No, And even if Jamis had won last week and
- 45:55Speaker 2: this was still the number, I still think I'd be
- 45:57Speaker 2: able to talk abutself, you know, just because how can
- 45:59Speaker 2: you make a number this big in this division? It's
- 46:02Speaker 2: it's so rare in the AFC North, the blow teams out,
- 46:05Speaker 2: like you really have to be a really good team
- 46:08Speaker 2: playing against a team that simply gives up midway through
- 46:10Speaker 2: the game, Like could that happen here with Cleveland? Check?
- 46:12Speaker 2: Can we get caught? Sure? Right, that's always possibility. But
- 46:16Speaker 2: it feels like James has brought something to this team
- 46:18Speaker 2: that they were lacking. And you've seen in the plane
- 46:22Speaker 2: right the offense looks so much more open and fast,
- 46:24Speaker 2: and they just need the defense to catch up to them.
- 46:27Speaker 2: We know the defense has not been good this year,
- 46:29Speaker 2: and we talked coming in the year that defense from
- 46:31Speaker 2: you hear does not translating Jim Schwartz. I mean we
- 46:34Speaker 2: have history now data back it up. His splits from
- 46:37Speaker 2: year to year are incredible, like he either has a
- 46:39Speaker 2: top two, top three defense or a bottom ten, bottom
- 46:42Speaker 2: five defense. Even last week I was shocking. They talked
- 46:45Speaker 2: about they only had two interceptions or two takeaways on
- 46:47Speaker 2: defense all year before Bonnicks kind of threw a couple up.
- 46:51Speaker 2: So this is a Browns team that I understand why
- 46:54Speaker 2: no one's betting them, right, I think in the action
- 46:56Speaker 2: app right now, with all the money, all the tickets
- 46:58Speaker 2: right now ron Pittsburgh, I expect them to be the
- 47:01Speaker 2: biggest public side. No one's gonna believe that Cleveland's gonna
- 47:03Speaker 2: beat this team twice. That's how this division is. Though.
- 47:06Speaker 2: Pittsburgh could easily win this division and sweep the Ravens
- 47:09Speaker 2: Cincinnati and then somehow gets swept by Cleveland, who maybe
- 47:13Speaker 2: only has four or five wins come to the season.
- 47:14Speaker 2: Like that happens all the time this division. It's just
- 47:17Speaker 2: a very weird, wonky way that it plays out. So
- 47:20Speaker 2: I'm I can't help it. Like I love this number
- 47:23Speaker 2: six and a half. Like I said, there's still a
- 47:25Speaker 2: book in Jersey, where as a seven, which is incredible.
- 47:27Speaker 2: So this is another number that I think professional money
- 47:31Speaker 2: will come in. I think I'll be driven down. I
- 47:33Speaker 2: could easily see this being six being one of the
- 47:35Speaker 2: bigger sides when of the bigger parlays. And I can't
- 47:38Speaker 2: wait to put an arm money line on a Robin.
- 47:39Speaker 2: I just love this for an upset for this Cleveland team,
- 47:41Speaker 2: especially like we just talked about, like this Pittsburgh team,
- 47:45Speaker 2: you know, not that we're trying to sell high on them.
- 47:49Speaker 2: But it's just like I talked about it last week,
- 47:51Speaker 2: how many of these fifty fifty balls is Russell's gonna
- 47:53Speaker 2: keep getting away with It's been incredible. They just keep
- 47:56Speaker 2: all connecting. It's gonna catch up to them. It's just
- 47:58Speaker 2: a matter of the very So yeah, Chad, I love
- 48:02Speaker 2: the Browns as you can tell.
- 48:03Speaker 1: Look AFC, north Hatfield, McCoy's, MONTAGUESE and Capulets like it.
- 48:09Speaker 1: Just it's going to be close. We're on the Browns.
- 48:12Speaker 1: I feel better because at least now we know we're
- 48:14Speaker 1: gonna have a couple of a couple of underdogs potentially
- 48:20Speaker 1: in five.
- 48:21Speaker 2: I had written down before it came on. Obviously I
- 48:23Speaker 2: get where you're coming on the Panthers. Was Cleveland and
- 48:25Speaker 2: the Panthers, and then the three favorites we like. I
- 48:27Speaker 2: like Miami, Vikings and the Chiefs. So if people don't
- 48:31Speaker 2: be shocked, if that's our five, if Chad somehow knocks
- 48:34Speaker 2: me out and I wake up in Chicago's in there
- 48:36Speaker 2: or the Seahawks are in there, also want to be
- 48:38Speaker 2: shocked either, because I get what you're saying. Those are
- 48:40Speaker 2: the more public sides. But obviously. I like those numbers.
- 48:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're exactly aligned. I had Minnesota, I
- 48:50Speaker 1: had Miami, I had Kansas City, I had Cleveland, and
- 48:53Speaker 1: my next in was between actually the Rams, the Panther
- 49:00Speaker 1: and the Bears. So we'll, you know, we'll hash it out,
- 49:03Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, and we'll do something today and
- 49:05Speaker 1: it could change on Sunday as it did last week,
- 49:07Speaker 1: and you know, and it might not even matter because
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- 52:07Speaker 2: We unfortunately we don't do the Thursdays for our best
- 52:10Speaker 2: three sixty five money lamb parlay because we want as
- 52:12Speaker 2: many people have to get in on it. If you
- 52:14Speaker 2: want to do a parlay with like green Bay and
- 52:17Speaker 2: Cleveland or something like that, I also love that moneylam parlay.
- 52:21Speaker 2: I know we don't get the boost of dodds, but
- 52:24Speaker 2: I just I mean, I think Chadzy agreens me. I
- 52:26Speaker 2: do think Green Bay is a Live Dog tonight to
- 52:28Speaker 2: pull the off set up on money Line around Robin Chad.
- 52:31Speaker 2: We went with Seattle, Chicago, Cleveland. Chad got the l
- 52:35Speaker 2: A Rams in there, you sick go and the sickest
- 52:39Speaker 2: one of all can't quit it going the Giants at
- 52:43Speaker 2: the finish it off.
- 52:44Speaker 1: Here's my thing. I think I'm on the right side here.
- 52:47Speaker 1: I know you don't agree with me, but the money
- 52:50Speaker 1: has come in on the Giants, I.
- 52:52Speaker 2: Know, just scare the dexter Lawrence think scares the shit
- 52:54Speaker 2: out of me.
- 52:54Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm a believer. I think the Saints shouldn't
- 52:58Speaker 1: be five and a half five. It's favorites against anybody.
- 53:01Speaker 1: Agree Wise, guys agree with me. They've moved the number
- 53:04Speaker 1: down from five to four and a half. So I'm
- 53:06Speaker 1: putting them in there because you gotta believe in the
- 53:10Speaker 1: New York pretending to play football Giants hashtag haptip. Thank you,
- 53:15Speaker 1: Chris Raybaum.
- 53:19Speaker 2: I just want to say, but people understand what I'm
- 53:20Speaker 2: working with the I'm looking at our text, Shane exactly
- 53:22Speaker 2: this Chad under saying if I liked the Chiefs, my
- 53:25Speaker 2: text was Panthers or Chiefs for big balls. How could
- 53:30Speaker 2: I be more clear you're a crazy person, because I
- 53:36Speaker 2: was like, maybe I worried weird. Now I'm looking at
- 53:38Speaker 2: I'm like, how did he not? How could I?
- 53:39Speaker 1: Do you want a question mark? Was there a question
- 53:41Speaker 1: mark at all?
- 53:43Speaker 2: You're hilarious.
- 53:44Speaker 1: I like, you know what, that's so funny? Oh you
- 53:47Speaker 1: said you did Panthers or Chiefs for big balls question mark.
- 53:53Speaker 1: I don't know why I interpreted that as you thinking
- 53:56Speaker 1: you know what it was because you were so on
- 53:57Speaker 1: the Chargers on Tuesday and I was too, and now
- 54:02Speaker 1: I'm on the Chiefs. I'm like, did we come to
- 54:05Speaker 1: a mind meld? So I was just that that's really
- 54:08Speaker 1: what it was, and I was so excited, Simon, what
- 54:10Speaker 1: are your biggest bets right now?
- 54:12Speaker 2: Minnesota, Miami? Right now? Jump off the top? You know,
- 54:16Speaker 2: if you could get the plus seven with Cleveland with me,
- 54:18Speaker 2: like I've just been hammering that. As soon as we
- 54:20Speaker 2: get done this call, I'm literally going to Pa with
- 54:23Speaker 2: my aunt from England. We're making a quick stop at
- 54:25Speaker 2: a sports book, giving her the whole experience. When I'm
- 54:27Speaker 2: carting around a book bag full of cash and I'm
- 54:29Speaker 2: hitting that last book that stills a seven over in Pa.
- 54:32Speaker 2: So yeah, heavy right now at Cleveland, Minnesota, Miami.
- 54:37Speaker 1: Listen, the family the bets together. I want you to
- 54:42Speaker 1: give your aunt a very hearty English hello. Hello, Auntie,
- 54:46Speaker 1: Scoots Roulette. Who is your Scoot Roulette?
- 54:49Speaker 2: Pick?
- 54:49Speaker 1: This week?
- 54:51Speaker 3: When all hope is lost, all this left is relief,
- 54:56Speaker 3: Let's play Scoots Roulette.
- 55:00Speaker 2: Did you not win last week?
- 55:02Speaker 1: I had Denver and I think you go first, but
- 55:06Speaker 1: I think you had Green Bay.
- 55:07Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you're coming off you had won the
- 55:10Speaker 2: week before. All right, I'm just trying to keep it fair.
- 55:12Speaker 1: I appreciate that I'm going to Cleveland.
- 55:14Speaker 2: You show a bitch. Yeah. As soon as I said, sorry,
- 55:18Speaker 2: well let's flip it, then I'll go. I'll take your Vikings.
- 55:20Speaker 2: I'll go five and a half vikings.
- 55:23Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what exactly is he
- 55:25Speaker 1: going to say when I say I'm going with Cleveland.
- 55:27Speaker 1: I thought you'd say it like you Listen. Before we
- 55:30Speaker 1: get out of here, we got to bring in director
- 55:32Speaker 1: of Research, Evan Abrams, for the final word. You better
- 55:36Speaker 1: make us feel good, Evan.
- 55:37Speaker 2: The last word with Evan Abrams, we're finished talking.
- 55:43Speaker 3: We're going to start off talking about mister Enigma. That's
- 55:46Speaker 3: where we're going to start off talking about if you
- 55:48Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about, then you know if you've
- 55:49Speaker 3: seen the Netflix documentary. Of course, I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers.
- 55:53Speaker 3: He had said this week that he is reinventing redoing
- 55:57Speaker 3: his home in New Jersey. So it sounds like he's
- 55:59Speaker 3: very comfortable and and he's not comfortable in the road.
- 56:02Speaker 3: And that's actually showed up in his status this year.
- 56:04Speaker 3: So at home, his passer rating twenty points higher than
- 56:07Speaker 3: the road, his completion percentage seven points higher home versus road.
- 56:12Speaker 3: He has ten more twenty plus yard plays at home
- 56:15Speaker 3: than he does on the road. On the road this year,
- 56:17Speaker 3: rodgers Is completion percentage over expected is the worst of
- 56:20Speaker 3: any quarterback in the NFL any quarterback hole. And Rogers's
- 56:25Speaker 3: three total covers this year, opponents have only scored thirty
- 56:28Speaker 3: three total combined points in those games. So if Miami
- 56:32Speaker 3: can put points on the board, I'm not exactly sure
- 56:35Speaker 3: how the Jets are going to stay there. Now, I'll
- 56:37Speaker 3: give you this as well. So Sunday night Miami was
- 56:39Speaker 3: minus seven. Of course, now it's down to five and
- 56:42Speaker 3: a half. Here we go again. Every single week the
- 56:45Speaker 3: Jets are getting action. Only two games have seen action
- 56:48Speaker 3: on the board. As of this morning, the Jets and
- 56:53Speaker 3: the Rams Bills are down to three and a half.
- 56:55Speaker 3: Jets are getting money again.
- 56:57Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, but.
- 56:58Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.
- 57:00Speaker 3: It seems like we're just going through the same thing.
- 57:01Speaker 3: And I got one more for you. And this is
- 57:04Speaker 3: this is right up your alley. You're gonna love it
- 57:06Speaker 3: because I knew what you guys were gonna take today.
- 57:08Speaker 3: We looked back at the Tuesday rundown. I was like,
- 57:10Speaker 3: this one's a hammer trivia time. Guess the quarterback with
- 57:13Speaker 3: the most turnover worthy throws this season, and he guesses.
- 57:18Speaker 3: Cousins nailed it. Cousins with no way two more than
- 57:23Speaker 3: any other quarterback. The next closest would be Gina Smith.
- 57:26Speaker 3: Now he doesn't just have bad bros. He's also really
- 57:30Speaker 3: crappy with pressure too. Cousins has faced four teams with
- 57:34Speaker 3: a four plus percent sack percentage. Now that is opponent
- 57:38Speaker 3: percentage of plays that ends in a sack, very simple.
- 57:41Speaker 3: In those games, zero to four against the spread this
- 57:44Speaker 3: year the worst of his entire career. So off the surgery,
- 57:48Speaker 3: off the injury, with the offensive line just not dealing
- 57:52Speaker 3: well with pressure and he's throwing the ball at the
- 57:55Speaker 3: other team. I don't know what to say other than
- 57:57Speaker 3: you know he's facing Minnesota, which you know, not only
- 57:59Speaker 3: the best Stephens in the league, but also a team
- 58:02Speaker 3: with best blitz percentage, Like second most pressures should be
- 58:05Speaker 3: a fun day.
- 58:07Speaker 1: I don't know how we got to this place that
- 58:08Speaker 1: we love too six to five and a half to
- 58:12Speaker 1: six and a half point favorites, But here we are.
- 58:15Speaker 1: We're betting what we see, which is fading Kirk Cousins
- 58:19Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers and aged quarterbacks who come off Achilles injuries.
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