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Chuck & Buck 4-29 Hour 4: Ryon Healy, Russ and Geno reunited and one last thing. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Oh. I do love the fact that Ashley decided that
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Speaker 1: one of our favorite campers could have a role on
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Speaker 1: our radio program and recruited him. And it turns out,
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Speaker 1: just turns out, just happenstance that he was a former Mariner. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Like there's one of these, like, Hey, I haven't seen
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Speaker 1: you since we rubbed calamine lotion on. What have you
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Speaker 1: done with your life?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: You played baseball for the Mariners. Oh wow, would you
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Speaker 1: like to come on our radio show?
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Speaker 3: We could use you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So that's how we got to know Ryan
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Speaker 1: Healey a little bit better former Mariner who joins us
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Speaker 1: every week on the show. We couldn't be more happy
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Speaker 1: about that. And here he is with this on Chuck
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Speaker 1: and Buck. How are you, sir? I'm doing a wonderful
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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you guys. Hey, same to you as well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: nice to have you here on a Wednesday. So how
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Speaker 1: much has your life changed since you got a few
1:03
Speaker 1: games under your belt doing color analysis during Mariners TV broadcast?
1:08
Speaker 1: I thought you were fantastic. By the way, I've seen
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Speaker 1: mostly positive reviews that, if not all positive reviews. We
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Speaker 1: don't get a lot of all positive reviews up here
1:17
Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest is a really finicky audience up here,
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Speaker 1: So so, what's what's been the reaction since you got
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Speaker 1: a few games under your belt.
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Speaker 4: When I was up there, I got a lot of
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Speaker 4: positive feedback. I was very grateful for that, because obviously
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Speaker 4: I don't really have a baseline of what good is
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Speaker 4: at this point. You listen to some of the best
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Speaker 4: in the world and you try to take some nuggets
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Speaker 4: from them and apply them.
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Speaker 1: But man, the game goes fast. It was.
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Speaker 4: Everyone kept asking me, was I more nervous for my
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Speaker 4: debut in the booth or on the field? And hands
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Speaker 4: down on the field, like there's way more things that
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Speaker 4: can go wrong on the on the baseball field. But
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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it, and I felt like by the
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Speaker 4: end of that first home stint, I had an opportunity
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Speaker 4: to settle in and about understanding and feeling very thankful
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Speaker 4: for Aaron Goldsmith for kind of holding my hand and
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Speaker 4: walking me through the initial transition there with the training
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Speaker 4: wheels on.
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Speaker 1: You're sick of brad Adam by now, though, right, No.
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Speaker 1: I love brad Adam.
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Speaker 4: The energy that he brings to the yard every single
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Speaker 4: day is special. Like that's the clubhouse guy that the
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Speaker 4: team keeps signing year after year regardless of what his
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Speaker 4: batting average is because he brings so much value.
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Speaker 1: You hear that, Adam, You are the glue that holds
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Speaker 1: it on together, you and your two fifteen batting average. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's about it. He's about impossible not to like that guy.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Heally is with us. Yes, not just Alma, Chuck
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Speaker 1: and Buck, but you're gonna him do a lot of
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Speaker 1: Mariners broadcast this year, so we're excited about that. And
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Speaker 1: he's off to a great start there. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about this team. They got a chance to get
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Speaker 1: back to five one hundred here today with a win
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Speaker 1: over the Minnesota Twins. More on that in a moment.
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Speaker 1: But last night's game I mentioned this, Ashley and I
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Speaker 1: have discussed it a couple of times today. Want to
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Speaker 1: get your thought. That bat flip from Josh Naylor on
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Speaker 1: the three round homer last night, to me, that was
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Speaker 1: him announcing to the world I am done with that
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Speaker 1: damn slump. I am no longer ice cold. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: even I got it all. It wasn't like we're gonna
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Speaker 1: win this game. That was I went the opposite field
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Speaker 1: earlier for a clutch, two out RBI single, and now
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Speaker 1: I just pulled to right center field an upper deck shot.
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Speaker 1: I am done with that damn slump. What did you
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Speaker 1: think it meant?
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Speaker 4: I like that It's one of those moments that as
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Speaker 4: a baseball player and even as a human being in life,
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Speaker 4: you're dealing with so much diversity, so much failure, and
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Speaker 4: you have that moment where you're.
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Speaker 1: Like it was all worth it.
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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I understand why the baseball gods
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Speaker 4: wanted me to hit a buck ten for as many
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Speaker 4: weeks as they did. Like this was the moment, this
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Speaker 4: was the road trip, and I felt like that capped
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Speaker 4: it off to really be able to, you know, put
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Speaker 4: that game out of reach for the Twins, for the
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Speaker 4: opportunity for the Mariners to just extend and score latent games.
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Speaker 1: You've seen that a lot on.
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Speaker 4: This road trip is the Mariner's ability to continue to
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Speaker 4: add on and take better advantage of teams bullpens that
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Speaker 4: aren't established or tremendous. That was the biggest complaint that
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Speaker 4: I heard for that Rangers in that a series. When
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Speaker 4: I was in town in Seattle, the lineup for the
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Speaker 4: Mariners was not taking advantage of the bullpens and also
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Speaker 4: some of the lesser starting pitching more on the A
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Speaker 4: side than the Rangers side. The Rangers tremendous starting pitching.
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Speaker 4: But that was a moment for Josh Snander to say, oh, man,
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Speaker 4: baseball's fun again. I'm gonna celebrate and enjoy this moment
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Speaker 4: and do a full three sixty turn at batfloot to
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Speaker 4: the moon and take my sweet time.
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Speaker 1: Sired in this, I think the same. I mean, they
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Speaker 1: are different personalities, but the way that Julio's playing again
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Speaker 1: with joy, you can tell. I mean, this is somebody
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Speaker 1: that's for ever since he became a Mariner, as great,
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Speaker 1: as good as he's been, as great as he been,
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Speaker 1: you might go as far as describing him as great
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Speaker 1: as a Mariner to this point in his season. He's
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Speaker 1: never gotten off to a good start. This is about
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Speaker 1: as good a start as he's ever gotten off to.
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Speaker 1: And even though he was showing some frustration like everybody
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Speaker 1: else in the first couple of weeks, man, he just
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Speaker 1: he looks different at this time of the year than
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Speaker 1: he's looked heading into May at any point during his
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Speaker 1: young career. What are you seeing out of him? He's
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Speaker 1: not hit home runs, but he's he's he's as close
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Speaker 1: to looking locked in as we've seen him this early
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Speaker 1: in the season ever.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he visited Big back Land with he was
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Speaker 4: when he was in Saint Louis and that was the
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Speaker 4: first home run that he's hit since the Astros series
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Speaker 4: on that four game sweep in Seattle, So that was
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Speaker 4: a good sign. There was a stretch where I think
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Speaker 4: he was on base for ten, twelve, fourteen games in
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Speaker 4: a row. Like there was a lot of walks, there
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Speaker 4: was a lot of hits. He was consistently on the barrels,
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Speaker 4: you know, the even the outs were loud, and obviously
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Speaker 4: to see him have three doubles last night, one going
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Speaker 4: to right center, two going down the left field line,
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Speaker 4: you can just tell he's getting more comfortable, and traditionally,
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Speaker 4: for hitters that have more power, the power is the
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Speaker 4: last thing to show up. He even really impressed with
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Speaker 4: Cal Rowley with how many home runs he's hit so
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Speaker 4: far this season.
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Speaker 1: I think he has seven now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that he's been able to leave the
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Speaker 4: yard as often as he had with the strikeouts, with
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Speaker 4: the jam shots just having a hard time finding the
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Speaker 4: barrel consistently He've been surprised how many he's run into.
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Speaker 1: Julio's a guy like I.
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Speaker 4: Put cal Julio in a special category where they all
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Speaker 4: have months with them they're gonna hit ten like they'll
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Speaker 4: hit ten eleven home runs and kind of get that
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Speaker 4: bunches of power that show up. I care way more
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Speaker 4: about the type of the bat that Julio's putting together.
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Speaker 4: He's gone through a couple of adjustments where the barrel
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Speaker 4: was really vertical and dancing around a lot, couldn't find
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Speaker 4: his timing, put it on his shoulder, soften his self
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Speaker 4: in the batter's box, and got his timing down. But
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Speaker 4: then we'll struggle to get the ball in the air.
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Speaker 4: And if you look him now, he's kind of on
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Speaker 4: the third tier of progression for the adjustment of figuring
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Speaker 4: out where does his barrel need to be to be
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Speaker 4: able to actually get the baseball in the air, because
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Speaker 4: now he's on time and it's in the zone. But
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Speaker 4: hitters are not satisfied with just hitting really hard ground
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Speaker 4: balls because defenders and the big leagues are really good.
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Speaker 1: Just a quick baseball question, just the game of baseball,
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Speaker 1: and I know it's about Julio, but what is it
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Speaker 1: about those shots the center field? What's happening on those
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Speaker 1: flyballs that he's having to contort himself in mid air
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Speaker 1: or like some circasile acrobat to catch. I mean, we've
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Speaker 1: usually are used to seeing him glide in center field,
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Speaker 1: and he's having to pull off some last second heroics
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Speaker 1: because there's obviously some sort of misplay going on there.
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Speaker 4: Well, are you talking about the one that was up
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Speaker 4: against the wall in Minnesota?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: More like last night. A couple of times he's had
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Speaker 1: to like twist like a fish being pulled from a
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Speaker 1: lake to try to snare flyballs that off the bat
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Speaker 1: look like I mean, you saw one when Nick Kurtz
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Speaker 1: when you were doing the broadcast. Yeah, and I know
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Speaker 1: that one was knuckling. But I was just trying to
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Speaker 1: give you the opportunity to explain that he's not doing
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Speaker 1: anything terribly wrong. It's just sometimes balls are hit strangely.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you get really interesting ballflight from these hitters, especially
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Speaker 4: when they're hit one hundred and five plus. The spin
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Speaker 4: that comes off that bat can go multiple directions. We'll
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Speaker 4: call it four directions, the backspun, topspun, and side spun,
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Speaker 4: either way depending on the type of hitter, and those
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Speaker 4: balls will just dance on you. As an outfielder, I
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Speaker 4: didn't play a ton of outfield, especially at the higher
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Speaker 4: levels where guys are hitting the baseball much harder than
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Speaker 4: anyone else. There's such a different jump, especially the last
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Speaker 4: twenty five feet, where if you can get a good
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Speaker 4: read off the bat, you're able to beat the ball
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Speaker 4: to the spot. And it seems like Julio struggling to
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Speaker 4: beat the ball like a good line drive, beat it
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Speaker 4: to the spot, anticipate where it's going to.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that something he's doing wrong.
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Speaker 4: I think that's just a feel thing that comes with time,
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Speaker 4: just kind of like timing in the batters box, that
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Speaker 4: comes together in the outfield position. And he's tremendous out there.
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Speaker 4: But he did have a funky play in Seattle. I
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Speaker 4: was there where him and Cole Young were about to
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Speaker 4: collide on a pop fly kind of thing that burn
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Speaker 4: you to triangle in front of center field, and he
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Speaker 4: slid really early and missed it and was frustrated. But
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Speaker 4: I don't ever worry about his defensive playing all right.
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Speaker 4: Ryan Heally is with us a former Mariner now Mariner broadcaster,
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Speaker 4: and with us every week here on Chuck and Buck
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Speaker 4: in the Morning. You brought up Cole Young.
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Speaker 1: Now that we've got to see him a little bit
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Speaker 1: kind of get comfortable in the major league settle in
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Speaker 1: still very young man. Were talking about high floor? Are
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Speaker 1: we talking about high ceiling? I mean, is this guy
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Speaker 1: just a regular starter? Is that what you see coming together?
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Speaker 1: Do you see a star? Do you see a superstar?
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Speaker 1: How are we evaluating? Just how much better Cole Young
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Speaker 1: looks in a very short period of time. I see
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Speaker 1: a high floor. I like that that statement. For right now,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what his ceiling is. We have seen
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Speaker 1: some tremendous power as fans of what Cole Young is
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Speaker 1: capable of.
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Speaker 4: The Bali hit in twenty twenty five off of Kumar
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Speaker 4: Rocker of the Rangers that I think went in that
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Speaker 4: upper deck the restaurant there in right field. You know,
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Speaker 4: four seventy four sixty plus ridiculous power potential and not
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Speaker 4: a massive human being either, but just creates so much
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Speaker 4: power and torque with the swing. The biggest thing that
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Speaker 4: stands out for me with Cole Young is his ability
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Speaker 4: to command the strike zone, whether it's a right handed
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Speaker 4: a left handed pitcher, a starter or reliever. He steps
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Speaker 4: in there with the plan, he knows what he's looking for,
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Speaker 4: and he's able to use the entire field. And there's
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Speaker 4: not many bats this season where I've seen him look
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Speaker 4: overmatched because he's able to make adjustments within the bat
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Speaker 4: from pitch to pitch. If he's beat on a fastball,
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Speaker 4: he can start his timing a little bit earlier. He's
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Speaker 4: able to adjust to off speed. And that Bay City
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Speaker 4: had last night was a fastball that beat him and
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Speaker 4: didn't hit it terribly hard to left field, but his
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Speaker 4: barrels in the zone. He's turning behind the baseball and
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Speaker 4: is able to just kind of clip it to left
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Speaker 4: for a late inning RBI. That is massive to keep
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Speaker 4: this Mariner's bullpen rested.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. I said this earlier in
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Speaker 1: the show. We've already given the contract to Emerson. If
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Speaker 1: he gave a nine year contract to Cole Young tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know what the money would be, but
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Speaker 1: I would sign up right now today for Emerson and
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Speaker 1: Young shortstop second base for the next nine years. Sign
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Speaker 1: up for it.
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Speaker 4: Today, and I think there's a lot of people that
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Speaker 4: would agree with that of anchoring down that middle infield
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Speaker 4: for the foreseeable future. But I think there's also some
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Speaker 4: fans out there that I'd like to see someone in
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Speaker 4: this starting rotation get locked up as well.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk about the starting rotation. Ryan
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Speaker 1: Healy is with us. Luis Castillo continues to struggle. How
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Speaker 1: worried should we be about this?
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Speaker 4: The velocity concerned me, especially in the other in the
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Speaker 4: start the other night in Minnesota. I know it was
11:31
Speaker 4: cold and it was rainy, and as a as a
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Speaker 4: baseball player, that's not the weather you want to play
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Speaker 4: In Seattle.
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Speaker 1: You got the roof.
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Speaker 4: Even though it's cold, you're not wet. But when you're
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Speaker 4: cold and wet, it's tough. But when you see the
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Speaker 4: velocity take a tip down like that, like I saw
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Speaker 4: a lot of ninety twos, ninety threes out of him,
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Speaker 4: that's not normal. It really eliminates the four seamer at
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Speaker 4: the top of the zone, which he's been so good
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Speaker 4: at the last few years. The bigger issue right now
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Speaker 4: is the slider. The slider is it's no longer a
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Speaker 4: get me over pitch plus a put away a pitch.
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Speaker 4: It's turned into I don't know what it's going to
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Speaker 4: be out of my hand, and we saw Andres Munioz
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Speaker 4: lose the feel of a slider recently too, and it
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Speaker 4: looks to be coming back around. But when pitchers lose
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Speaker 4: their main secondary, it's really hard to have that confidence
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Speaker 4: to fill the strikes on up early. And Luis Castillo
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Speaker 4: has the highest walker round on the starting rotation by
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Speaker 4: a lot over eight percent walker and that's not the
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Speaker 4: Mariner's pitching staff identity. So if he's giving up free
12:24
Speaker 4: passes and then also giving up the big hits, it's
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Speaker 4: a recipe for disaster. And I know how good Louise
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Speaker 4: has been is in his big league career, and he
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Speaker 4: can turn this around. The question is what direction does
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Speaker 4: him and the pitching staff go in the short term
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Speaker 4: to get him right, because otherwise it makes the Mariner's
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Speaker 4: decision that much easier when Bryce Miller does come back.
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Speaker 1: Do is that the easy decision at this point? Let's
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Speaker 1: say Bryce Miller's activated tomorrow, Is it as easy as hey?
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Speaker 1: Luis is clearly the guy struggling the most. He's out
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Speaker 1: of the rotation. I liked your take that you had
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Speaker 1: the other day.
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Speaker 4: I thought it was an interesting perspective on a team
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Speaker 4: that has World Series expectations. There can't be emotional decisions
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Speaker 4: that are made. Like everyone knows that Luis castillo Is
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Speaker 4: is the leader of that pitching staff and he is
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Speaker 4: the big brother, and someone might call him unk on
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Speaker 4: that rotation the way that the guys look up to him.
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Speaker 4: But I do know that Louis would do whatever's best
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Speaker 4: of the team. I don't believe that they would rush
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Speaker 4: him out of the starting rotation because they're gonna need
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Speaker 4: all six of these arms for the entirety of the
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Speaker 4: season to be successful. I would envision them running a
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Speaker 4: six man rotation before they bump Luise to the bullpen,
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Speaker 4: just because you don't know what that does to his
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Speaker 4: confidence and his identity as a ten plus year big leaguer.
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Speaker 4: How does he handle that transition. What does his role
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Speaker 4: end up being, you know, in the middle relief or
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Speaker 4: even back into the bullpens. That's more of an end
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Speaker 4: of the year decision of where you might slide him in.
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if they continue with the six
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Speaker 4: man and try to keep these arms as healthy as
13:49
Speaker 4: they possibly could for the rest of the year.
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Speaker 1: Uh. You mentioned the let's extend a starting pitcher next
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Speaker 1: would it be Gilbert or Kirby for you? Well, that's
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Speaker 1: a hard one. That's a hard one. What about Wu, Well,
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Speaker 1: you got a little more time with him, been a
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Speaker 1: little more time. Gilbert's up in the year, Kirby's up
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Speaker 1: in two, Woo's up, and I think four.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're going by that that thought process,
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Speaker 4: Gilbert is probably gonna be the most expensive because he
14:15
Speaker 4: is closest to free agency. My guess is they've thrown
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Speaker 4: offers in front of all three of them, and clearly
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Speaker 4: nothing that is close enough to what they want to see,
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Speaker 4: meaning the pitchers. I don't have a preference. I would
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Speaker 4: like any of the three personally, I would like to
14:31
Speaker 4: skip all. But it is It is really reassuring as
14:36
Speaker 4: well for Mariners fans to see the pipeline of minor
14:39
Speaker 4: leaguers that are having a ton of success and dominating,
14:42
Speaker 4: you know, the Double A level. I think it's the
14:45
Speaker 4: chance that you see Kate Anderson and Sloan kind of
14:48
Speaker 4: come up to Triple A at some point towards the
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Speaker 4: second half of the season and test their their abilities
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Speaker 4: there against the more advanced hitters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, anders A just dominating, dominating. It's ugly.
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Speaker 4: It's ugly for Texas League when you run into a
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Speaker 4: legitimate arm like that that can pitch with velocity and
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Speaker 4: plus secondary, it's a nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Abs challenge system. We're all getting used to it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody, I don't know if the
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Speaker 1: most seasoned manager still knows exactly what their strategy is
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Speaker 1: going to be. Did we learn anything from Rob Reschneier
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Speaker 1: Sunday where he had two opportunities to call out an
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Speaker 1: umpire who was having a really bad day, but with
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Speaker 1: the count O and O, he let that one go.
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Speaker 1: But then when it was one and two, like, no,
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Speaker 1: and you're not going to send me back to the
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Speaker 1: bench on that, So I'm going to go ahead and
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Speaker 1: challenge this one. And then he hits the home run
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Speaker 1: which changes the game. So I guess my question is
15:44
Speaker 1: number one, now that we've had a month with this,
15:48
Speaker 1: isn't it incredible how much it can impact a baseball game?
15:52
Speaker 1: And then number two, do you think that baseball teams
15:55
Speaker 1: have figured out how they want to use it? Or
15:58
Speaker 1: is this going to take a little while longer.
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Speaker 4: I've always said the second half is going to bring
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Speaker 4: more clarity for exactly what the ABS system should be
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Speaker 4: utilized for and it seems like teams and specific players
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Speaker 4: are already getting more specific with the situations that they're
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Speaker 4: deploying that challenge. They don't want to use it ano
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Speaker 4: unless it's blatant. They do want to trust the catcher
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Speaker 4: behind the plate to use those challenges and big situations,
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Speaker 4: and then when they're at bat altering calls like JP
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Speaker 4: has had to bite his tongue. JP Crawfords had to
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Speaker 4: bite his tongue on multiple ones that I know he's
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Speaker 4: wanted the challenge but hasn't. And then it's also deployed
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Speaker 4: in different situations like in one to one counts or
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Speaker 4: a two strike count. I've also seen JP get absolutely
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Speaker 4: hosed on a couple of calls that were the ABS
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Speaker 4: call of just kind of nick in the corner man.
16:46
Speaker 1: That's tough.
16:48
Speaker 4: I do think cal Rawley's gotten a lot more comfortable
16:51
Speaker 4: with it. Mitch Garver was like.
16:52
Speaker 1: Eight for eight with it. Yeah, weird.
16:54
Speaker 4: I think we've seen we've seen one Mariner picture deploy
16:56
Speaker 4: a challenge so far this year, for one and only.
16:58
Speaker 1: George Kirby a tongue.
17:04
Speaker 4: I understand why he did it, though, and I actually
17:06
Speaker 4: respected it. He was very passionate and was convicted and
17:09
Speaker 4: unfortunately wrong. But if he was right, then you know,
17:12
Speaker 4: a whole different story. But I like the ABS. It's
17:15
Speaker 4: an interesting moment. Yeah, a thrilling moment. And did you
17:19
Speaker 4: see the Reds the Reds game last night where the
17:21
Speaker 4: eleventh striker of the game was on an ABS challenge
17:24
Speaker 4: and when the red strikeout eleven at home, the entire
17:27
Speaker 4: stadium gets free pizza.
17:29
Speaker 1: I didn't see this.
17:30
Speaker 4: You need to go find that because the energy in
17:32
Speaker 4: that building erupted the minute that the ABS challenge was overtured.
17:36
Speaker 1: It was awesome. Now I love it. I just say, yeah,
17:39
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't know if any manager, no
17:42
Speaker 1: matter how skilled they are, still has any clue how
17:46
Speaker 1: they're going to be managing ABS by the end of
17:48
Speaker 1: the season. But maybe we did learn a little bit
17:51
Speaker 1: of a lesson from Rev Snighter on Sunday, a little
17:53
Speaker 1: piece of information. I want to ask you about today's
17:56
Speaker 1: game because it is just game number thirty two of
17:59
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two game season and like that.
18:04
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, but I mean we're very early in
18:06
Speaker 1: the process and it's just one of many, right, And
18:09
Speaker 1: yet Ashley and I were discussing this a little bit earlier.
18:12
Speaker 1: I really want this game, like more so than any
18:15
Speaker 1: of the previous thirty one games. The idea, seriously, the
18:21
Speaker 1: idea that you could dig out of this hole officially
18:24
Speaker 1: get back to the five hundred mark, have an essence
18:27
Speaker 1: two days off because you won't play again until Friday night,
18:30
Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan possibly waiting for you here at home to
18:34
Speaker 1: re enter the lineup. You get two days to enjoy
18:38
Speaker 1: the reset. Okay, we created a hole we didn't want
18:41
Speaker 1: to create for ourselves, but we got back to five hundred.
18:44
Speaker 1: We can hit the reset button out of one hundred
18:47
Speaker 1: and thirty games to play yet this year. So this
18:51
Speaker 1: to me feels like to get this win today and
18:55
Speaker 1: get back to five hundred. I'm not saying if you
18:58
Speaker 1: lose it, it's a big d. But I'm saying if you
19:01
Speaker 1: win it, it feels like the perfect opportunity to just
19:05
Speaker 1: hit that reset button, take a deep breath, and say,
19:08
Speaker 1: all right, here we go, let's go win the damn West.
19:12
Speaker 4: I think I think I'm gonna try and bite my
19:16
Speaker 4: tongue here out of respect for the passion that you
19:18
Speaker 4: were demonstrating, because I want you. I want you to
19:21
Speaker 4: make this Wednesday day game that's gonna be on at
19:24
Speaker 4: around ten am our time. I want that. I want
19:28
Speaker 4: that to feel big for you. So I'm gonna let
19:30
Speaker 4: you have that. I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and
19:33
Speaker 4: say that the Cardinals series has already cemented a lot
19:36
Speaker 4: of progress. The win last night, bouncing back after the
19:39
Speaker 4: tough loss on Monday, cemented a lot of things for
19:42
Speaker 4: this team and what their identity is. Yes, would a
19:45
Speaker 4: win today cap it off and make it special? Yeah,
19:48
Speaker 4: for sure, to overcome some of the road adversities they
19:52
Speaker 4: dealt with early in the season to win this series.
19:55
Speaker 4: Because that's the most important thing right now for the
19:56
Speaker 4: Mariners is win every series.
19:59
Speaker 1: Sure, this is this is the world Series, Chuck, this
20:02
Speaker 1: is it. This is the moment you were doing Game seven,
20:04
Speaker 1: let's go. You know what, I don't appreciate your sarcasm,
20:09
Speaker 1: and you were laying on really thick there. Heally. I like,
20:13
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pitching everybody today. Everybody's available, not starters obviously,
20:17
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm with you. I'm pitching everybody today. I'm
20:19
Speaker 1: making sure Munos gets in the game today. I'm I'm
20:22
Speaker 1: winning this game. That's my approach. Dan Wilson will never
20:26
Speaker 1: be able to show his face in Minneapolis again if
20:28
Speaker 1: he doesn't win this game today.
20:30
Speaker 4: Wow, I don't think that's how I don't think that's
20:32
Speaker 4: how it works. If you lose the game, they actually
20:34
Speaker 4: would welcome him back. That's a little.
20:35
Speaker 1: Bit of yeh. But he's from Minnesota, so I think
20:38
Speaker 1: he would embarrass himself. He's actually from Illinois, Barrington, Illinois
20:42
Speaker 1: where well I'm not going to tell a personal story,
20:45
Speaker 1: all right. Uh, well man, thank you very much. Enjoy
20:48
Speaker 1: this crucial game today and let's go. We'll talk to
20:55
Speaker 1: you again next week. What are you back on? By
20:57
Speaker 1: the way, when's your next Mariners game? Actually, we love
21:00
Speaker 1: tell the listeners what the plan is move forward.
21:02
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know he's talking about marriage's game. But yeah,
21:04
Speaker 3: we can tell them that too. You'll be back on
21:06
Speaker 3: starting Tuesdays, Okay, Tuesday nine.
21:09
Speaker 4: A little pitvot in the Healey households so instead of
21:11
Speaker 4: Mondays at nine, we're gonna be Tuesdays at night and
21:12
Speaker 4: moving forward.
21:13
Speaker 1: So I look forward to that. Okay.
21:14
Speaker 4: I will be at be back up in Seattle the
21:17
Speaker 4: twenty eighth of May, so about a month away.
21:19
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, well we look forward to it,
21:22
Speaker 1: all right, man, thank you, great stuff as always, great
21:25
Speaker 1: seeing you guys, all right, grace today Ryan Haley Healey
21:28
Speaker 1: joining us right here on Chuck and Buck in the
21:30
Speaker 1: Morning's the former Mariner turned Mariner broadcaster right before our eyes.
21:35
Speaker 1: And now he's going to be joining us every Tuesday
21:38
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock as opposed to Mondays. And today was
21:42
Speaker 1: different too, obviously it's Wednesday.
21:44
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because on Monday we had to go all draft.
21:46
Speaker 1: Yeah. Aye, that's true. That's true. That's true. Yeah. So yeah,
21:50
Speaker 1: good stuff from him today, and I don't appreciate him
21:54
Speaker 1: treating me that way. Listen up, Chucky at the end
21:58
Speaker 1: of the interview, Yeah sure, sure, it's huge. It's the
22:01
Speaker 1: World Series.
22:03
Speaker 3: I think we're you guys are in a fight. You're
22:06
Speaker 3: having your first fight.
22:07
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal if we lose today.
22:09
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this would be a really nice winding.
22:13
Speaker 3: Well, all you're saying is that of the games we've
22:15
Speaker 3: had so far the season, this is the one that
22:18
Speaker 3: I want you most want to win. And I completely
22:20
Speaker 3: understand that, because, as we pointed out earlier, you get
22:23
Speaker 3: to come home at five hundred. You have a nice
22:26
Speaker 3: sunny weekend, You've got a good home stand.
22:29
Speaker 1: Yep.
22:29
Speaker 3: It's a great way to start things off.
22:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a we now we can officially flush
22:35
Speaker 1: that bad start. We dug out of that hole. Yeah,
22:38
Speaker 1: we had one hundred and thirty games to go. We
22:41
Speaker 1: are at worse a game out of first place. Yeah,
22:44
Speaker 1: because if you win today, can't lose any ground. You're
22:47
Speaker 1: at worse a game out of first place in the
22:49
Speaker 1: American League West. And then you just get to go
22:52
Speaker 1: home to some home cooking, you know, your own bed.
22:55
Speaker 1: You have almost two full days off. It'll feel like
22:59
Speaker 1: you're reborn.
23:00
Speaker 3: And also, yeah, well you had a crappy game like
23:02
Speaker 3: you had on Monday, and then a good game like
23:04
Speaker 3: you had on Tuesday. You don't want to go back
23:05
Speaker 3: to the crap on Monday. You want to go You
23:07
Speaker 3: want to move forward. So a win today.
23:09
Speaker 1: Hee. He's just not as deep a thinker as I is.
23:11
Speaker 3: That what it is. Yeah, it's got all that hair
23:15
Speaker 3: that's blocking.
23:16
Speaker 1: You know what, Age comes wisdom, young man, And someday
23:21
Speaker 1: he'll be enlightened like I am.
23:23
Speaker 3: He'll get there.
23:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll see the light you'll understand how it works.
23:26
Speaker 1: Things will become clearer for you. Okay, So just now,
23:31
Speaker 1: maybe just listen, maybe be a good listener, you know,
23:35
Speaker 1: and then that will serve you better. To be a talker, yes, okay, yes,
23:41
Speaker 1: and talk your smack, but maybe maybe listen a little bit,
23:44
Speaker 1: maybe maybe perk up a little bit when the enlightened
23:47
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24:14
Speaker 1: I've heard people say this a lot. That's the greatest
24:16
Speaker 1: reality television that there is, and it always has been
24:19
Speaker 1: and it always will be, and it's remarkable. Like you know,
24:25
Speaker 1: Bucky always says people that don't like sports are weird. Yeah,
24:29
Speaker 1: he might say dumb, is it weird? Is it dumb
24:31
Speaker 1: or weird or both? I think it's weird, weird he says,
24:35
Speaker 1: they're weird, and yeah, if you don't get into this,
24:39
Speaker 1: I mean there is something wrong with you, because when
24:42
Speaker 1: this can happen, gosh, what a great sports radio magic
24:47
Speaker 1: this is. But if you have not heard, there was
24:49
Speaker 1: a story that broke yesterday that maybe Russell Wilson's not
24:53
Speaker 1: done just yet with the National Football League, and of
24:56
Speaker 1: all teams to be interested in Russell as a backup
25:00
Speaker 1: to Geno Smith, oh man, it's the New York Jets
25:04
Speaker 1: that might be interested in reuniting Russ and Gino, just
25:08
Speaker 1: in a different order on the depth chart heading into
25:12
Speaker 1: the new season. You just can't make this stuff up.
25:15
Speaker 3: I mean you really can't. That is some I mean,
25:17
Speaker 3: if anyone ever thought Russell hadn't gotten enough humble pie
25:21
Speaker 3: in the past couple of years to then come in
25:25
Speaker 3: to be the backup to his backup, that that would
25:29
Speaker 3: take that you'd take a tumble down the humble hill.
25:32
Speaker 1: But how would you if he signed up for it?
25:36
Speaker 1: How would you feel about him? Because I mean, maybe
25:41
Speaker 1: he's impervious to that sort of thing. Maybe he doesn't
25:43
Speaker 1: get embarrassed. Maybe he I mean he gets let go
25:47
Speaker 1: in Denver and it's just like I still think I'm
25:49
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the National Football League. And then
25:53
Speaker 1: he has his ups and downs in Pittsburgh. Actually had
25:55
Speaker 1: a couple of nice moments in Pittsburgh and but couldn't
25:59
Speaker 1: capitalized on it and ended up getting benched. And then
26:02
Speaker 1: he ends up with the Giants and he acts like, no,
26:05
Speaker 1: it was the Giants first. And when he went to
26:07
Speaker 1: New York, he's going to Knicks games like he's a
26:10
Speaker 1: big superstar in New York now, and people are like, dude,
26:13
Speaker 1: you got a battle for your job. Yeah, like you aren't.
26:16
Speaker 1: I mean, if your QB one, it's in pencil. And
26:20
Speaker 1: yet he just is like, oh, that's great. Just want
26:23
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback, Just want to be in the
26:25
Speaker 1: NFL's no big deal. So if he were to take this,
26:29
Speaker 1: we would look at his like, oh man, if that's
26:33
Speaker 1: not a lesson in humility, I don't know what is.
26:36
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't look at it.
26:37
Speaker 3: He's like, I still got it. He definitely doesn't get embarrassed.
26:41
Speaker 1: To wait to win this job if he got to
26:43
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback in the league.
26:45
Speaker 3: Again, if he ever got embarrassed, he never would have
26:47
Speaker 3: posted a video saying, hey, Seattle, we got a deal
26:49
Speaker 3: at midnight in bed, and he never would have done
26:52
Speaker 3: those subway commercials. So clearly he has no like embarrassment
26:55
Speaker 3: is not a thing that he ever experiences.
26:58
Speaker 1: Oh do we have the day Andrew Witch him smacking
27:04
Speaker 1: his lip. They didn't even give him a script. They're
27:07
Speaker 1: just like, no ad lib. You're so talented.
27:10
Speaker 3: God, I swear I have it somewhere.
27:15
Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, if you've seen him recently.
27:20
Speaker 3: That's all I have from it, unfortunately.
27:22
Speaker 1: But for Russ well, he was a great seahawk. He
27:28
Speaker 1: was He was a great seahawk. And I don't think
27:31
Speaker 1: he's a bad guy whatsoever. I think he's actually probably
27:34
Speaker 1: got a really good heart.
27:36
Speaker 3: Yes, really good heart, kind heart listens to he has
27:40
Speaker 3: too many yes people around him, and he listens to
27:42
Speaker 3: people who have terrible suggestions.
27:44
Speaker 1: Yes, and and I mean, I thought we hadn't heard
27:49
Speaker 1: anything about Russell this entire offseason, And in my head,
27:53
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe maybe he did finally just look in
27:55
Speaker 1: the mirror and just say, you know what, I pulled
27:58
Speaker 1: off some pretty great things a super Bowl. People were
28:02
Speaker 1: thought I was going to be a Hall of Famer
28:04
Speaker 1: at one point. Maybe I've got an outside chance at
28:07
Speaker 1: getting there. I don't know, but I've made a lot
28:10
Speaker 1: of money. I got a beautiful family out of the
28:14
Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah, I think my wife's in it
28:17
Speaker 1: for the right reasons. Yeah, but maybe it is time
28:22
Speaker 1: to just step away. And then all of a sudden,
28:26
Speaker 1: I see him. He's at a Savannah Bananas game. And
28:32
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. A lot of former athletes have
28:35
Speaker 1: played in those Savannah Banana games. They're very popular, they
28:38
Speaker 1: have they have made their imprint, they made their impact.
28:40
Speaker 1: They sell out that stadium for days, they sell out cities.
28:44
Speaker 1: I mean, so yeah, there is nothing wrong at all
28:48
Speaker 1: with an athlete choosing to suit up for a game
28:52
Speaker 1: and being the you know, the celebrity athlete at the
28:56
Speaker 1: Savannah Bananas game. A lot of people have done that.
28:58
Speaker 1: But when I saw him, and I think you saw
29:00
Speaker 1: the same thing, Ashley, I'm like, oh my gosh, look
29:03
Speaker 1: how heavy he has gotten since the end of the season.
29:07
Speaker 1: I mean, he is going to banana split his pants.
29:10
Speaker 1: He's so big and and yet and he hits a
29:16
Speaker 1: grounder and he waddles down to first And my thought,
29:19
Speaker 1: honestly was good. Russell has accepted it. Career is over.
29:25
Speaker 1: He's not going to try to convince this he's still
29:27
Speaker 1: the world's greatest quarterback. He's just he saw the riding
29:31
Speaker 1: on the wall. This offseason, he had conversations with good
29:35
Speaker 1: football people and he's like, you know what, it's been
29:37
Speaker 1: a good run. I'm done. I'm gonna move aside. And
29:40
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden there's thoughts and bringing him
29:44
Speaker 1: aboard at the Jets, very mixed messages. I'm receiving right now.
29:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well, and then it's yeah.
29:50
Speaker 1: Especially behind Geno, Yeah.
29:51
Speaker 3: Behind Geno, and again, as you said, yeah, with the
29:54
Speaker 3: Savanna Bana's you're thinking, Okay, he's going to go enjoy
29:56
Speaker 3: his retirement. Like he's a former baseball player. This is
29:59
Speaker 3: a great fit. You know, he's gonna just go have
30:01
Speaker 3: fun with the audience because he is a ham like
30:03
Speaker 3: he has a chief ballure. He's going to live it up.
30:06
Speaker 3: He's gonna think it's the best and and he's gonna
30:09
Speaker 3: do more stuff like this, And that makes sense why
30:12
Speaker 3: he's gained weight and things. Oh wait, his career is
30:17
Speaker 3: not over and he.
30:18
Speaker 1: Is Hey, if the Jets are interested, the Jets are interested.
30:23
Speaker 1: But I would like to think that Russ was like,
30:25
Speaker 1: you know what, I I don't think I can. I
30:28
Speaker 1: think I think I don't think I can swallow that.
30:30
Speaker 1: I think I'm done. Yeah, right, what am I going
30:32
Speaker 1: to get out of that? Yeah?
30:33
Speaker 3: It was just the is it dichotomy? Is that the
30:36
Speaker 3: right word? Of seeing him in the Savannah Bana's uniform, yes,
30:39
Speaker 3: and seeing that he had beefed up a bit, we'll say,
30:43
Speaker 3: and I thought.
30:43
Speaker 1: He had just I'm you know, I looked in the
30:46
Speaker 1: mirror and I saw somebody that had a good career
30:49
Speaker 1: and it's.
30:49
Speaker 3: Over, Yes, exactly. And then all of a sudden hearing that,
30:52
Speaker 3: and you're like, well, those two things are not the same.
30:57
Speaker 1: I have a feeling if they want him, if it's true.
31:00
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody was just making it up, because there was
31:02
Speaker 1: also this joke about they have to hire Pete Carroll
31:06
Speaker 1: as an advisor, if nothing else, just an advisor, so
31:10
Speaker 1: that we can have that at training camp. You know,
31:13
Speaker 1: you don't want to hire them as a coach, fine,
31:15
Speaker 1: but bring them aboard so we can have Geno, Russ
31:19
Speaker 1: and Pete back together again in a very strange way.
31:23
Speaker 1: But man, that is crazy. That is crazy how sports works,
31:27
Speaker 1: that this is what could end up legitimately happening before
31:31
Speaker 1: training camp. Yeah, that Russell could sign with the Jets
31:34
Speaker 1: to be Geno Smith's backup quarterback.
31:36
Speaker 3: It is I I ow, that's fun. Fun? Is that
31:41
Speaker 3: the Yeah, it's fun.
31:42
Speaker 1: You're right, that's fun. That's fantastic is what it is.
31:47
Speaker 1: All Right. Coming up next on the radio show, we
31:49
Speaker 1: got one last thing to close out this Wednesday edition
31:52
Speaker 1: of Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
32:04
Speaker 1: All right, one last thing to close out our show.
32:07
Speaker 1: I do have a little bit of breaking news. This
32:09
Speaker 1: is very interesting. Oh, Jared Kelnick's back in the major leagues.
32:14
Speaker 1: Just got called up this morning by the Chicago White Sox.
32:18
Speaker 1: He had a terrible spring and even worse start to
32:22
Speaker 1: the minor league season with the White Sox, but lately
32:26
Speaker 1: he's been tearing up the ball and so the White
32:29
Speaker 1: Sox had an injured player and decided we've seen enough,
32:32
Speaker 1: so they've activated him. So Jared Kelnick is back in
32:35
Speaker 1: the majors with the Chicago White Sox. Good for him, Yeah,
32:39
Speaker 1: good for him. I mean, he's such a talent, and
32:41
Speaker 1: yet I don't know if the game's just between the
32:45
Speaker 1: year is going to be too much for him to overcome,
32:48
Speaker 1: And that has nothing to do with intelligence and has
32:50
Speaker 1: everything to do with the way that you sort of
32:53
Speaker 1: have to accept the highs and lows, yeah, in the
32:55
Speaker 1: sport of baseball, and the many, many lows, and how
32:58
Speaker 1: you have to deal with that. I don't know if
33:00
Speaker 1: he's equipped. And there have been a lot of guys
33:02
Speaker 1: throughout baseball history that had what are you talent to
33:05
Speaker 1: soar not just be in the major leagues, but to
33:08
Speaker 1: be superstars in the major leagues that couldn't overcome that.
33:12
Speaker 1: And maybe he's going to be that type of casualty.
33:15
Speaker 1: But he's going to get one more crack, and it
33:17
Speaker 1: probably is. It's probably it. This probably is last crack.
33:20
Speaker 1: I mean, the White Sox aren't exactly one of the
33:22
Speaker 1: best teams in the sport right now. This might be
33:25
Speaker 1: his last chance to stick, to show that he belongs
33:29
Speaker 1: because he had a hard time finding a job this offseas.
33:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope this one works out.
33:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be nice. That'd be nice for him. I
33:34
Speaker 1: always liked him. I know he he has a different personality,
33:38
Speaker 1: but I don't think he ever had a bad one.
33:40
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a bad guy at all. He's
33:43
Speaker 1: just a different dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is, all right,
33:45
Speaker 1: what do you got for one last thing?
33:47
Speaker 3: Well, I do have one last thing, but I will
33:49
Speaker 3: say it's funny. All of a sudden, today's news on
33:51
Speaker 3: exit popped up. ESPN reporter Diana Rossini involved an affair
33:54
Speaker 3: with New England Patriots coach one hour ago. I'm like,
33:57
Speaker 3: oh wow, so my one last thing is what the
34:03
Speaker 3: heck is going on with Brandon Ayuk. I mean, it
34:07
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like he wants to play. The forty nine
34:08
Speaker 3: ers can't get a hold of him. They want to
34:10
Speaker 3: trade him. Who would want him? Who would want someone
34:12
Speaker 3: that just goes mia on a team when he's like
34:15
Speaker 3: done playing for him?
34:17
Speaker 1: Well, and the forty nine ers are going to have
34:18
Speaker 1: to accept the fact that they didn't have to at
34:21
Speaker 1: the end of the year announce needless to say, he's
34:25
Speaker 1: done as a forty nine er. Yeah, that's what their
34:27
Speaker 1: general manager did. So you have he already was going
34:30
Speaker 1: to have next to no trade value. And when you
34:33
Speaker 1: say that.
34:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hurt yourselves. You shut yourselves in the funt.
34:37
Speaker 1: So why are you still holding on? Why are you
34:39
Speaker 1: still trying to trade him? And trying to now convince
34:42
Speaker 1: everybody what a great hell audition, he'll be to your team.
34:45
Speaker 3: And you also don't need to get a hold of him,
34:46
Speaker 3: get ahold of his agent, trade him. You never have
34:48
Speaker 3: to have a conversation with him.
34:50
Speaker 1: You can't. You might not be able to trade him.
34:52
Speaker 1: That's my point.
34:54
Speaker 3: Just coach him, cut him and take the loss.
34:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, let go. You said he can never come back
34:59
Speaker 1: on your team last year, so just let him go. Yeah,
35:02
Speaker 1: it's you will find another team that way. Somebody will
35:05
Speaker 1: give him.
35:05
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to take his contract.
35:07
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to take his contract, and nobody's going to
35:09
Speaker 1: probably give up anything for him. I mean, it's been
35:11
Speaker 1: that was a major injury, and it's been a couple
35:13
Speaker 1: of years since he's even played, and they're obviously going
35:16
Speaker 1: to be taken on a headache, no matter if they
35:19
Speaker 1: provide for him greener pastures or new surroundings. He obviously's
35:23
Speaker 1: got an attitude about him. Yeah, so whatever, he got
35:27
Speaker 1: paid and he decided football wasn't that important to him. Yeah,
35:31
Speaker 1: and you rubbed him the wrong way at some point,
35:34
Speaker 1: but you declared at the end of last season that
35:37
Speaker 1: he obviously is not going to be on our team
35:39
Speaker 1: next year. So the only thing you can do is
35:41
Speaker 1: cut him. So cut him and be done with it.
35:42
Speaker 3: It just seems like they keep bungling the whole thing
35:44
Speaker 3: and making it worse and worse. I'm like, I don't
35:46
Speaker 3: get it. What are you trying to accomplish out of this?
35:48
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what they're trying to accomplish. They don't
35:50
Speaker 1: want him signing with the Rams. They don't want him signing.
35:53
Speaker 3: They want to be able to have the control over
35:54
Speaker 3: where he goes, right.
35:55
Speaker 1: If I mean, I don't think that they're sitting there
35:58
Speaker 1: thinking to themselves, No, we've got to get some thing
36:00
Speaker 1: for him. They don't want him ending up in their
36:03
Speaker 1: division and then coming back to haunt them. So I
36:07
Speaker 1: think that's why they're doing it. If you cut him,
36:10
Speaker 1: then the Ramseyhawks or Cardinals can sign.
36:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, yep, that makes sense.
36:13
Speaker 1: All right. I'm going to close with this. Ryan Healy
36:16
Speaker 1: uh being a real smart ass today, frankly.
36:20
Speaker 3: The best way.
36:23
Speaker 1: But I'm so I'm gonna be I'm gonna have to
36:25
Speaker 1: tell him, I'm gonna have to educate him a little bit. Now.
36:28
Speaker 3: I'm ready for this.
36:30
Speaker 1: Bryan Move's not a con candidate to be extended because
36:34
Speaker 1: he's a pitcher. I mean, Trek Scooble didn't even get
36:38
Speaker 1: extended because he had a Tommy John surgery in the
36:41
Speaker 1: middle of his first six years in the Major League. Right,
36:45
Speaker 1: this is just not a move you do with starting pitchers.
36:48
Speaker 1: You don't just I mean, you did it with Paul Skeens,
36:51
Speaker 1: but Skeens is a bit of an outlier.
36:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well yeah did that very early.
36:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's just not something that a lot of
36:58
Speaker 1: people do with pictures because of one day they can
37:03
Speaker 1: look into the dugout and say that pitch didn't feel
37:05
Speaker 1: right and the next thing you know, you've lost them
37:08
Speaker 1: for a year and a half. It's much more likely,
37:10
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they won't do it, but you're
37:13
Speaker 1: gonna wait until there's a year or two remaining on
37:16
Speaker 1: the deal with a pitcher. Yeah, schemes is different. Workhorse
37:20
Speaker 1: pirates want to make sure they keep him. But when
37:24
Speaker 1: it comes to starting pitchers, like I said, the Tigers
37:27
Speaker 1: didn't even do it for Trek's school bol for goodness sake,
37:30
Speaker 1: you're not going to extend Terrek school Bold, then what
37:32
Speaker 1: does that tell you? Teams just aren't as excited about
37:37
Speaker 1: extending someone nine years into the future because pitching injuries
37:42
Speaker 1: tend to preval well and they tend to have a
37:46
Speaker 1: much more dramatic effect on pitchers than what hitter injuries
37:50
Speaker 1: have on hitters.
37:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
37:52
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, So I think that they will work to
37:56
Speaker 1: try to extend Logan this season end season, and I
38:01
Speaker 1: think they'll try to keep him if they can't in
38:03
Speaker 1: the offseason. But as I've said before, I think one
38:07
Speaker 1: of here Kirby are going to be traded. I think
38:09
Speaker 1: it'll start with Gilbert and if he gives them the
38:12
Speaker 1: impression that he's moving on, then they'll try to re
38:15
Speaker 1: sign Kirby. But Brian Woo, who's gonna who already has
38:19
Speaker 1: a long injury history, even last year. Yeah, we lost
38:23
Speaker 1: him at a really important time. Yeah, and so they're
38:26
Speaker 1: gonna wait. I would say at the earliest would be
38:30
Speaker 1: two years left on his deal. That would be the earliest,
38:32
Speaker 1: And my guess is they'd wait till there's one year
38:35
Speaker 1: left on his deal.
38:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
38:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Cole Young to me, makes more sense, Like
38:40
Speaker 1: I said earlier in the show, if they announced today
38:43
Speaker 1: Cole Young has agreed to a similar deal to what
38:46
Speaker 1: Emerson signed. I'm in Yeah, let's lock those two up.
38:51
Speaker 1: I've seen enough.
38:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
38:53
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of Emerson, but I've seen enough
38:55
Speaker 1: of Cole Young to believe that I know the floor
38:57
Speaker 1: is high. I think the ceilings higher than what we thought,
39:02
Speaker 1: even going back to spring training. If you tell me
39:05
Speaker 1: right now that our second base shortstop combination for the
39:09
Speaker 1: next nine seasons of Mariner baseball is Cole Young and
39:12
Speaker 1: Cold Emerson, I'm in. Where do I sign Yeah, give
39:15
Speaker 1: me the contract. I'm in.
39:17
Speaker 3: I'll sign me up.
39:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially at a rate like Emerson's on, like a
39:22
Speaker 1: ten twelve million dollar deal. But I doubt we're going
39:25
Speaker 1: to hear that from them for a while. I don't
39:28
Speaker 1: think they're going to get crazy with all of these extensions,
39:33
Speaker 1: but I do believe it's on their radar. I think
39:35
Speaker 1: he's he's forcing the issue right now with how well
39:38
Speaker 1: he's playing in just a second.
39:40
Speaker 3: Seasons case scenario right there.
39:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. Great, And he's such a nice young such a
39:44
Speaker 1: nice lad. Yes. Yeah, And he is just stinging the ball.
39:48
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if it's a lefty or a righty.
39:51
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what count. What if it's O two
39:54
Speaker 1: or well, you know, two to Oh, he's just stinging
39:57
Speaker 1: the ball, and I think he'll get more consistent. He's
39:59
Speaker 1: still going to have lapses and slumps and things of
40:02
Speaker 1: that nature, but I think that he'll get more consistent.
40:06
Speaker 1: And you're now starting to see what he can do
40:09
Speaker 1: when he's on, and that includes hitting for power, which
40:13
Speaker 1: I did not realize was part of his scouting profile.
40:17
Speaker 1: But now that I've seen him hit like five balls
40:19
Speaker 1: four and fifty feet, I now know Cole Young has
40:22
Speaker 1: power in his game too. Exciting, very exciting, very exciting.
40:26
Speaker 1: He've done a hell of a job amassing a lot
40:29
Speaker 1: of young talent in this organization. There is no reason
40:32
Speaker 1: that the Mariners shouldn't be contenders for the next decade straight,
40:36
Speaker 1: every single year for the next decade. That's how good
40:39
Speaker 1: it's going. Yes, please, all right, that's going to do
40:41
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40:44
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40:54
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40:58
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