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Avenging The Fallen Down Under With JOACIM CANS From HAMMERFALL · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Versus joking cans from Hammerfall.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful. Thank you so much, And your hair is so
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  Speaker 2: much nicer than mine. It's not fair. I'm actually a
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  Speaker 2: bit jealous.
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  Speaker 1: I was complaining. I was about to complain about my
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  Speaker 1: bad hair day. I had a cap on before, but
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  Speaker 1: I looked like a buffoon, so I took that off now.
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  Speaker 1: But thank you, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: It's lovely. Don't worry. We're so excited to have you
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  Speaker 2: guys tour here in January. Is it for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: We've been Actually, we did a one off show back
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  Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen in Melbourne, but apart
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  Speaker 1: from that, no, this is the first time we do
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  Speaker 1: like a proper tour. Yeah, it's about time. It's about time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon. Is there anything in Australia that you're
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to saying in particular?
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  Speaker 1: Or since I am a certified so malier, I'm really
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to find some lines that I can't find
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  Speaker 1: over here and maybe have the opportunity to visit a
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  Speaker 1: vineyard if possible. Invitation actually to penfolds, so we'll see
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  Speaker 1: what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, no, you love that the area
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  Speaker 2: that I live in I actually live a few hours
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  Speaker 2: out of Sydney and it's known as wine country here,
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  Speaker 2: so there's plenty. There's plenty around Australia. Yeah, you'll get
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  Speaker 2: some good ones.
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  Speaker 1: I mean. The problem is we have to do shows too,
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  Speaker 1: so I mean I checked the schedule, so it might
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  Speaker 1: be a little hard to find the time unless we
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  Speaker 1: cut some songs or just hauncil the show because the
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  Speaker 1: singer is too drunk.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds it does. What can we expect sonically on
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  Speaker 2: this tour? Are you guys going to play some of
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  Speaker 2: your older stuff or is it going to be more newer,
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  Speaker 2: newer stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this tour is part of the tour of
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  Speaker 1: the latest album, eventually Fallen, and since this is the
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  Speaker 1: thirteenth album, but still an album that will make a
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  Speaker 1: difference in the you know, in the history of hammer Fall,
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  Speaker 1: the hardest nowadays thirtain albums down the road. How do
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  Speaker 1: you put together the perfect setlist? It's so hard. But
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  Speaker 1: of course we need to play some songs off the
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  Speaker 1: new album. Of course we need to play the songs
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  Speaker 1: that the fans want to hear. We also need to
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  Speaker 1: play the songs that we want to play. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: you know it really make you know, makes me going
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  Speaker 1: and you know on stage, like you know, I love
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  Speaker 1: playing this song because it's so personal to me. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we need to put that song in as well, and
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  Speaker 1: then maybe you add one or two like underdogs so
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  Speaker 1: to speak, like surprise songs like oh my God, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't expect them to play that song. So if you
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  Speaker 1: take all this into consideration, I think this is the
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  Speaker 1: equation for the perfect setlist. So we've been touring, now
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  Speaker 1: we part. We did this special, very special guest tour
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  Speaker 1: with power Rolls in Europe, so we you know, the
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  Speaker 1: new songs are working really well live. So now I'm
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  Speaker 1: just going to add some more songs so we have
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  Speaker 1: the perfect length for a headline show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh brilliant. What a good answer. Do you have
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  Speaker 2: to before you go on stage? Do you do lots
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  Speaker 2: of vocal warming up or does that kind of come
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  Speaker 2: naturally to you?
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  Speaker 1: No, I need to be ready when I hit the stage,
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  Speaker 1: since this type of singing is not meant for men
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  Speaker 1: sometimes because it's so high pitched, you need to be ready.
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  Speaker 1: You really, I have my I mean, I have my ritual.
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing the same things for thirty years now.
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  Speaker 1: And it works for me, So I would never change anything.
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  Speaker 1: Like exactly one hour before the intro starts, I will
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  Speaker 1: go away for like ten minutes to find like a
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  Speaker 1: room with a nice reverb, like a shower. In worst case,
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  Speaker 1: I have to go to a bathroom. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you have to do what you gotta do what you
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  Speaker 1: gotta do. So I'm starting up with my warm ups.
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  Speaker 1: Then when I'm done with that, I get dressed, I
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  Speaker 1: maybe have half a kind of coke, and half an
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  Speaker 1: hour twenty minutes before the show, I go back into
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  Speaker 1: the warm up room, and then I starting to test
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  Speaker 1: my like the high pitch, and see if I woke
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  Speaker 1: that up by doing the lower parts before. So you
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  Speaker 1: need to be ready. If you're not ready, you will
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  Speaker 1: probably lose your voice within a couple of songs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I could imagine. And do you have any
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  Speaker 2: special sort of You mentioned Coca cola, but do you
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  Speaker 2: have any sort of take concoctions or anything that helps or.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you just need to whatever you do the
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  Speaker 1: day before or the days before, the week before, the
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  Speaker 1: night before will affect your voice. So just add fluids.
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  Speaker 1: And with fluids, i'm referring to water, I'm referring to
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  Speaker 1: like this electrolytes that you need, you know, because we're
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  Speaker 1: sweating so much on stage. If you want to drink beer,
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  Speaker 1: drink wine, maybe you know, do that after the show. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I have half a beer before the show if
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I just need to have a little kickstart.
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  Speaker 1: That's half a beer. But that's it, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it makes sense. That leads me to my
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  Speaker 2: next question as well. You guys are so high energy
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  Speaker 2: on stage. Is it exhausting?
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  Speaker 1: It is exhausting, but you also you need to be
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  Speaker 1: prepared for it. You can't really sit on you can't
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  Speaker 1: be a couch potato and expect to be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: deliver ninety plus minutes on stage. So you know, personally,
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  Speaker 1: I'm out running three times a week. I'm doing approximately
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  Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty k in a week, and that
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  Speaker 1: is to have to get my pulse down as quick
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  Speaker 1: as possible. See if I run from one side to
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  Speaker 1: the other on stage, my pulse is going down like
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  Speaker 1: like that. So I can sing without sounding like this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of singers they just stand still because
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  Speaker 1: they can't move because if they move, they get exhausted.
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  Speaker 1: They need to catch their breath. They can't sing. I
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  Speaker 1: can actually headbang and sing at the same time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because my resting pulse is so low. There you go, geez.
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  Speaker 2: It takes a lot more than we think sometimes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, if you're twenty years old, it's different. But I
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  Speaker 1: still this is what I do. I've been doing this
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  Speaker 1: for thirty years, and I really hope to be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: be able to do this for another ten years. And
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  Speaker 1: now it's up to me. It's not up to up
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  Speaker 1: to anyone else. It's up to me if I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: you know, stay in shape to be able to perform
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  Speaker 1: and deliver. I don't want to end up like many
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  Speaker 1: of my vocal heroes like that. They can't sing anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but they still go on tour and it sounds I
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  Speaker 1: can't really find a word for it. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it must be so shameful for them. They
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  Speaker 1: must feel so bad on stage, but they cannot They
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  Speaker 1: can't quit because they don't know anything else.
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  Speaker 2: So that's right, and you've yeah, you've nailed it on
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  Speaker 2: the head. It's like, if you want the best out
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  Speaker 2: of yourself, you have to put in the work for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, That's that's really fun.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, your body is like your race car. You
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  Speaker 1: need to change the you know, oil change, you need
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  Speaker 1: to you know, fix things, you need to get new
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  Speaker 1: tires you otherwise it breaks down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and next question, what does hammer Fall mean for you?
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  Speaker 1: Mean? To you?
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  Speaker 3: This is sometimes I don't know who the private Joechem
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  Speaker 3: is and the stage Joakim.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, what is the difference like now? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: of course on stage I can do things and say
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  Speaker 1: things I would not do at the dining table, of course.
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  Speaker 1: But somehow I'm so connected. These two persons are so connected,
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  Speaker 1: so they become one. So hammerful to me, that is
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  Speaker 1: a big part of my life. And that's also a band.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, hammerful maybe who I am in a certain way.
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  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't change this for anything else. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: just so happening, so proud that we managed to to
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  Speaker 1: to create something that will hopefully go down in heavy
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  Speaker 1: metal history, as you know, a band that you could
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  Speaker 1: rely on, a band that made a difference.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So it's definitely part ingrained in part
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  Speaker 2: of your identity obviously as well.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, sometimes maybe a little bit too much, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to separate the two worlds now, but it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And can you talk to us a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about Avenge the Fallen.
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  Speaker 1: I can talk to you about the Fallen. What do
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  Speaker 1: you want to know? I think that is a better
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  Speaker 1: if you have certain because otherwise, you know, it's so
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's ten songs, it's every song is individual,
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  Speaker 1: it's the whole process. But what I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: is that, well, first of all, it's not a concept album,
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  Speaker 1: but there is a concept in my way of thinking
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  Speaker 1: in regard to the lyrics, that everything has like a freedom.
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  Speaker 1: The word freedom is in there, and the right to
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  Speaker 1: live the life that you want to live and be
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  Speaker 1: the person that you want to be. An album that
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  Speaker 1: might need some contemplation, contemplation and might raise some existential
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  Speaker 1: questions to the listener if they are open for it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is kind of the most important thing.
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  Speaker 1: And if you have this, if you take this into
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  Speaker 1: consideration and take this with you, when you listen to
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  Speaker 1: the album, you'll be like, ah, okay, yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you I've noticed on a lot of your albums.
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  Speaker 2: I think every album lyrically you weave in metaphors that
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  Speaker 2: have lots of layers of depth and even meaning, not
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  Speaker 2: just metaphors, but the meaning of the lyrics as well.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you get the inspiration for such lyrics?
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  Speaker 1: I think mainly the inspiration is in here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's I'm creating everything from from from from scratch. In
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the career, of course, it was love
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  Speaker 1: of the fantasy influenced lyrics, but I never read a
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  Speaker 1: fantasy books in my whole life, because, I mean, someone
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  Speaker 1: wrote Game of Thrones from nothing. Someone wrote Lord of
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  Speaker 1: the Rings from nothing from it. It was like a
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  Speaker 1: blank piece of paper. So I think that you know
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  Speaker 1: your own imagination, that that is the only limit limits
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  Speaker 1: I have. Yes, I mean my inspiration now, I think
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  Speaker 1: the inspiration for this album as funny as it sounds
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  Speaker 1: not funny. But I'm very into drag race, but not
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  Speaker 1: the cards. I'm talking about RuPaul's drag Race. I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of the lyrics on this album comes
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  Speaker 1: from the mentality of their their struggle to be respected
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  Speaker 1: for what they are and what they want to do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I was at rup Paul drag convention in
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles years ago. You know, I'm friends with the
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  Speaker 1: It was a rag Drag race Sweden last year, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm close friends with most of those those Oh my
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  Speaker 1: gosh queens. Yes, I'm getting a lot of inspiration from
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  Speaker 1: from that. And and I think it's it's like I said,
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  Speaker 1: and be the person that you want to be and
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  Speaker 1: live the life that you want to live. Because for
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  Speaker 1: for heavy as a heavy metal singer and musician and
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  Speaker 1: a listener growing up in the early eighties, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of witch hunt for like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the metal bands, like, hey, you know this is
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  Speaker 1: not cool. You can't dress like this, you can't listen
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  Speaker 1: to this music. Well, I want to listen to that music.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is you know, this is me. And
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  Speaker 1: when when when grunge came and I had my my
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  Speaker 1: heavy metal band, my friend said, why don't you play
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  Speaker 1: music that people want to hear? Well, because I play
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  Speaker 1: music that I want to play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that's so amazing. And I had
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  Speaker 2: no idea that you were into grace as well. And
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  Speaker 2: what I love about that is that, if anything, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the queer community in particular really needs representation and from
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  Speaker 2: metal bands, as you was sort of alluding to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: those that crowd hasn't always been accepting of queer people
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  Speaker 2: or people that are on the outside. So it's wonderful
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  Speaker 2: to see that you're saying, no, everyone needs to be
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  Speaker 2: who they are and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely So we're doing drag bingal on Wednesdays so
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  Speaker 1: that's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we would be best friends. I love
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  Speaker 2: drag Grace. That's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen every every I've seen every season, rewatching
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  Speaker 1: what is now All Star seven with my absolute favorite
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  Speaker 1: Jinks Monsoon.
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  Speaker 2: I was just going to ask who's your favorite, but
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  Speaker 2: you named it. My favorites Tricksy or Katia I love Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I love them.
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  Speaker 1: They're good too, but not a Jinks so diverse.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you'll be touring Australia with Silent Night. What
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  Speaker 2: made you choose them as support acts?
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  Speaker 1: This is more something about the local promoter, like the
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  Speaker 1: Australian promoter that wanted to put something together. So we
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  Speaker 1: didn't really have a say in that because we really
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  Speaker 1: put trust in the local promoter that they know what
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  Speaker 1: type of band would add something to the bill and
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  Speaker 1: also I would attract some extra people.
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  Speaker 2: Ah that makes sense because it does go really well
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, how did you guys hear about them?
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, promoter, what's the key to keeping a successful
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  Speaker 2: band together for all these years?
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  Speaker 1: Having fun together? I think fun is the word, the
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  Speaker 1: keyword for for everything. I often get the question like,
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  Speaker 1: so how long are you you're going to you know,
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  Speaker 1: stay in the band, or how long are you going
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  Speaker 1: to tour? Well, as long as as fun, you also
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  Speaker 1: need to respect each other, and I mean when we
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  Speaker 1: were younger. It's only me in Oscar that's been in
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  Speaker 1: the band since the first album. And I mean like
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  Speaker 1: small like oddities.
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  Speaker 4: Is that if you have some let's say I have
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  Speaker 4: like small Yeah, small things become bigger the older you get,
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  Speaker 4: like in weirdness like you if you have like OCD,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Get smaller, it gets bigger, it gets worse. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you just need to respect that we are different. And
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  Speaker 1: on tour it's not like we're hanging together twenty four seven.
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  Speaker 1: You do your thing. And I think that is the
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  Speaker 1: key thing here, that everything is just based on respect.
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  Speaker 1: But you also need to have a clear vision where
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  Speaker 1: you're going. And in this case it's me an Oscar
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  Speaker 1: being the two. I mean, this is a dictatorship of two.
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  Speaker 1: It's me an Oscar. You know, we are the captains
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  Speaker 1: of this ship, and no one else are actually allowed
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  Speaker 1: to steer. Of course, like you said, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we should go to New Zealand next time, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, we're going to do this. We
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  Speaker 1: have an idea, we have a clear vision what we're
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  Speaker 1: going to do, a clear plant.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And also musically, everyone else in the band they know
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  Speaker 1: because they joined the band in the middle of our career.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they got the opportunity to join Hammerpoll and
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  Speaker 1: White changed something that is actually working.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, so it really is.
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  Speaker 1: But still respect respect respect.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And what hobbies do you have yourself outside
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  Speaker 2: of making music with Hemophore.
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  Speaker 1: I think I answered that already. One is wine, in
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  Speaker 1: particular champagne, and the second one is I mean, drag
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  Speaker 1: is a hobby, yeah, because I really enjoy watching it
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  Speaker 1: and experiencing it. If I would have been younger, and maybe, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to be younger, but unfortunately I have
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  Speaker 1: a beard, so I can't really try. Doesn't matter, Yes
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  Speaker 1: you can, I know I can't, but I don't like
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  Speaker 1: drag with beard, so that that is the case. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Danny Beard won the UK Drag Race and that work.
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  Speaker 1: That works. But apart from that, cooking is you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love cooking running the running part also. I love
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  Speaker 1: to run. I love to site run and by side run,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I come to your city, I put on
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  Speaker 1: my shoes and I just look in the at the map,
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  Speaker 1: in the in the phone, like Okay, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: run down the street. At the park, I make a
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  Speaker 1: left and never see what happens. I put the phone
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  Speaker 1: down and I just run and I look and if
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  Speaker 1: there's something like a beautiful view, I stop, make a
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  Speaker 1: selfie and I continue. And if I can't, if I
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  Speaker 1: if I never get to the park, I realize I
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  Speaker 1: am lost. Well, in that case, I just look at
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  Speaker 1: the phone. Oh shit, no, I'm totally lost. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to be long long walk or run back home. But
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  Speaker 1: at least this is a great opportunity to to explore
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  Speaker 1: and to to find a new city.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, No, I think that's great and I love
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  Speaker 2: doing that too. When I travel. I've been to the
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  Speaker 2: United States a few times, but what I'll do is
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  Speaker 2: go there with no plans of I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: where I'm staying, but not really what I'm doing, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll just find my own adventure. And yeah, it's the
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  Speaker 2: best way.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I think, So just be just dare to dare
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  Speaker 1: to get lost.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Is there anything you'd like to say
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  Speaker 2: to your Australian fans.
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  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's just tell everyone to come
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  Speaker 1: to the shows. I mean, this will be an you know,
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  Speaker 1: five it's a five or six shows, I can't remember now,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's fine. Five epic shows. This is
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  Speaker 1: the first tour ever in Australia. I mean, there's the
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  Speaker 1: first thing for everything, and there's the first thing for
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: every band. I mean, be there to be able to
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: tell everyone, you know, I was there when Harful came
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the first time, even though they waited twenty seven years
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to come. Yeah, so you know, we're so looking forward
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to meet everyone and this will be, like I said,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: this will be epic, fantastic.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: And just to backpedal a little bit, was there any
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: reason why it took you guys so long to come
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: out here?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Just look at the map?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fair enough.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: You know it's a little bit far. It's a little
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: bit because we were in Melbourne in twenty fifteen or
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, because we were in the neighborhood. In the neighborhood,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: we played Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan and thought, you
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: know what, since we're here, let's go down to Australia.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: But that was like an eight hour flight. Yeah, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, And it's not only up to the band.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: You also need to find promoters. You need to get invitations. Hey,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you want to come here, we can make this for you.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And if you're a boud chasing shows like we want
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to come down there, Okay, well we can give you
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: this show. Yeah, but we can't do the only one
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: show and says Australia has not really connected to any
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: other country. It is Australia only. So I mean maybe
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that is a bad excuse. I don't know, but you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: just forget about the past. We are coming now.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: That's it, that's it, and we're all so excited. Thank
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: you so much, Joki. Did I say that right?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Joke? But thank you? Yes? Yeah, okay, perfect joking, Yes, wonderful.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for speaking with us today. We
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: can't wait for the tour, kicking off in Northcote, Victoria
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: on January sixteenth.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: We'll see that amazing. See you there, Thanks you see
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: bye bye