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Thomas Nagy and Paul Meenan talk to Louise & John about smart home installs · The Electrical Show

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The Electrical Show with Thomas Naji sponsored by Bosch Professional Powerful power tools for measuring
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tools and experts accessories. Welcome to the Electrical Show with Bosch Professional here on
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Fix Radio on Thomas Naji and with me as always right hand man here,
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mister Meanan, Yeah, back here. Now, over the past few weeks,
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you've heard us talk about isms or specialisms, and on today's show,
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we're going to be talking to Louise Tarling and John Vauxhall. Now they are
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a husband and wife team and they do smart home specialisms. So we're going
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to be talking to both Louise and John in the next went out there here,
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Now, why don't we introduce Louise and John here? Now, Hi,
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it's fantastic you're here. Thank you really didn't make it. Your name
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actually cropped up week? Wasn't it your name cropped up weeks ago? I
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think it was Paul you mentioned it. Yeah, so unashamedly, I'm just
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gonna introduced some the greatest Instagram account on Instagram. I don't know whether that's
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because of my absolute incompetence at using the platform or just they're really much better
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at most things than me. He's the most modest person on social media.
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I can assure you yeah, well, we did look at smart home installs
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a month or two ago. But having Louise and John in the studio will
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allow us to dig a little bit deeper and find out more about this specialism
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because it is a very very niche area and you've got to know exactly what
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you're doing. The Electrical Show on Fixed Radio. You're listening to the Electrical
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Show with Bosch Professional here on Fixed Radio. I'm Thomas Nagie and in the
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hot seat here is Paul Meanlan. Now on today's show. If you've just
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tuned in, don't worry. We're just getting started. We are going to
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be chatting with Louise and well Louise Tarling and John Vauxhall about their experiences working
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together in our trade and offering smart home installations to their clients in Essex.
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Now, welcome to both of you. It's it's wonderful to have you humble
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our little show here. So tell me how did your pass first cross because
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it is unusual to have a husband and wife outfit. Well, John was
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a licensed London taxi driver and I was going on holiday with my friend and
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he took us to the airport. Basically, that's how we met. No
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public cool okay, yea years ago I was uncapped you over here. I
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mean I could literally I could take this down to complete. But you've done
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the knowledge test that yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it really as hard
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as people say? This is the illogical show? But I want to go
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off tangent here. It's the hardest thing, breaks people. Yeah, it's
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the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. No way. Yeah,
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it looks it looks so antiquaid from the outside. Yeah, if I want,
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it's some of the paper I'll see driving tax Do you think how do
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you ready scatter bed in the morning and dress yourself? You know? So
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that's smart switched to me. One of the most complicated things on the planet.
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You're telling me is nothing based on your Instagram account compared to the knowledge
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of driving a black cab, oh or industries in a bad way? I
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have heard that is like it is supposed to be possibly hard and it takes
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years, apparently to the training for it. It took me two years,
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six months, five days. I was counting you pulled your clients, yeah,
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basically, yeah, I always met over review mirror. Okay, I
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mean, that's a cool way to me. It's cool. But Louise said
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to me some months after we'd first met, and when my friend said,
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oh, I now a taxi driver. He'll take us to the airport,
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she said, I thought you'd be like fat Graham Bold about sixty years old.
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But how did you end up getting into this trade? Then? So
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you met each other, but how did this trade come about? Well,
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while Strong was driving a taxi, he was also refurbishing houses. And okay,
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as you do when you meet somebody, now, you start getting involved
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in what they're doing. So yeah, I started in helping out bits and
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pieces here and there, and we got let down a couple of times by
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our electrician and done my electrical qualifications years and years ago. So I said,
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I'll bring them up to speed. And between flipping houses, I'll go
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and change light bowls and drink cups of tea with old ladies. That was
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the business plan. That was the business plane. That's that's not a bad
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plan. Didn't we didn't happen. It happened literally, I think three weeks
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after I officially started the business, I picked up afore I've been rewire and
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dragged John at the taxa and said like, I need a help. I
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can't do it on my own. And that was that. It's just you
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did say I need help with this one. Then you can go you can
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go back here. Wow, it still parked up with the side of the
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road hazards on. I returned it to the garagement. I'll be back in
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four weeks. He's I've not seen him since, bless him. Wow.
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Okay, that was it. Yeah, and it kind of just went from
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there and it just, I mean, it just exploded. It just the
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female bit clearly helped for sure, because we've spoken about that, haven't we.
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Yeah, we have. I almost cringe when you see the industry promoting
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in what they believe is a positive light but ends up quite the opposite of
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the positive light. It becomes quite toxic, very easily. Whereas were you
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guys, it doesn't matter your business the way you approach your Instagram. It's
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not about oh look here's a leading lady. The quality and the excellence of
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it overshadows whatever, male or female. It's phenomenal. And this is one
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when people turn around to me and they go, who's your favorite Instagram account,
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I'll always say Louise Tarlin. She's one of the best female electricits out
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there, and I don't really want to use the word female, because she's
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the best electrician out there on Instagram period. The only other account that comes
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near not Tom's, by the way, he's one chord or taken EGW Electrical,
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And that's because he's so good at what he does. He's a sarcastic
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baby one. I love him for it. He will, you know,
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mock and rib the industry when his work speaks yourself. And I think your
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work speaks for yourself. But can you tell me what some of the pros
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and cons? Because if I work with my brother who's I would fall out.
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We would end up murdering each other by the end of day one.
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If I worked with my missus, I would probably get shot by the end
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of day one. And what are the pros and cons of working together as
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husband and wife? The same thing? Really? Time together and time together.
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It took a while. It's really sweet, lovely. How have you
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managed it? I mean, I say it's like in a shark phase because
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like, yeah, I had to say, Louise is very easy going and
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placid. Patient patients throw me toys out a Pram regularly. I resigned weekly
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a week a while, because we've obviously got different strengths. Louie's very my
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be cool, she'll sit down, whereas I really like the construction bit.
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And so it took it took years, didn't it. Yeah, and we've
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we do. We do work to West Ronts. Yeah, but then sometimes
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you just know you have to get involved together and yeah, well we Louis
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is charged from nine till I'm charged from five till nine. Really in charge
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of the TV might control a him though, Oh you know that is bashing
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the book a man. Yeah, I'm writing this so called the book a
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Man. It's never going to get published. But he the electrical show on
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Fixed Radio. This is the electrical show. I'm Thomas Najie with Paul Mean
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and and we are talking about smart home installations with Louise Tarling and John Vauxhall.
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Now when did the fascination for smart homes? I mean you got together
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and then you started working together, But when did the smart home side of
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it? Where did that come into play? It was one of those things.
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It almost by accident. We had a client who has some tennis courts
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in his garden. As you do, and he had a supply cable out
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there, didn't he but he wanted to be able to switch the lights from
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the house, but there was no there was no cable going to the house.
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He just said, well, can't you do something like without wires?
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And no, you can't. But then we just went home and googled it
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and who was it? It was? Was it? Skullmore had a what
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is now a very very basic wireless switch in Connecticut. Switch is it's not
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as clone key, but yet the same sort of thing. And we were
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like, oh, you can hang on. So we did that. But
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you know, it's like once you start googling something and then the rabbit hole
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opens up and then before you know it, you're like, oh, wow,
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hang on a minute, there's we'd never heard of that kind of thing.
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And I think the term smart home was almost done a little bit of
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a do you remember when the iPhone came out everyone put in front of the
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mid So every bit of home tech is now a smart home. But that's
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when it started, and it just kind of goes on from there. And
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you know, when you do a job and then they tell a friend and
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then it just gets around like that and that's how it happened. We just
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sort of discovered this whole new industry and then just started researching more and more
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into it, looking into it deeper, finding out what's available, where you
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get it from suppliers, distributors, and then yeah, this is kind of
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history. Embarked on like every single training course going, which was just like
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the darkest thing to do, looking back on it. So you literally fell
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into it. Yeah, effectually bland away through your first job and then just
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started to go and train like mad. That's the secret as people need to
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know. A little wireless control unit upper tree. I'm thinking, what this
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He's not very glamorous, is it? Because he looks very glaus. Many
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years ago, I went to one of the very early seedier conferences and I
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sat. I walked into an Eca were there and all the hobknobs, and
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I just went, what is this dark magic they're talking about? I just
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felt so stupid and I left it and I was I was literally I was
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like, I'm not looking into this. This looks way too hard. This
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is for like scientists, NASA level stuff. I'll just stick with mid twin
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and earnest with you. I was going to say, actually, can I
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just add a question there? So when did NASA train you? Yeah?
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I mean actually sometimes that you would say to me, why don't you going
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to be an astronaut? Because I mean, you can't change I quite in
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change my minding. I think we do this now, and we'll do this,
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and we'll do this, And why are you going to be an astronaut?
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Because I think they're training something like six years and then golden the mission
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to and you won't be able to do anything. So just on that.
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How do you guys? I mean, I know you've done loads of training,
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but I find with I mean I last year I did eight hundred and
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sixty hours of CPD and I still feel like an idiot. How do you
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guys keep up with all the latest changes? Because I struggle like mad.
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I don't know how you guys find because every time I look on your Instagram
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account, there's a new I didn't know you could bury subwoofers in the ground.
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I didn't know you get all this out. I sit there and I
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go my smart hotel. I'm just going to look at Louise's Instagram and learn
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from that. I didn't know you could get half this stuff. But how
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do you guys come across it. Well, we've been to quite a lot
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of distributors and they they're very good at putting on open days that we should
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explain to you all the different kit that they offer pretty much how it works,
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not necessarily how it all goes together, but pretty much how it works,
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and then you just sort of take a piece, go and do something
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with it. No, you know, when you're interested in something, you
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try it out. You're sitting there, I'm having to look at this and
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look at that. It's not forced. So you know, there's that saying,
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if you enjoy what you would do, we genuinely enjoy you do it.
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It's not forced. It's like oh wow, like you said, oh
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Bury the sub normally diging a hole. You think I was a neighbor,
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I'd be like, I am rying to object. I couldn't believe it.
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I was just like, why much technology? We won't want to be their
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neighbor. And well, I know the job you're talking about the way they're
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designing is they don't really interfere with the neighbors because of all the little satellites
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move, you point them in. So if you almost d to go out
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of that zone. You can hear it, but it's not it's not in
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their face. It's clever stuff. So they do targeted CPD, which is
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cool. And if you love your job, it's notart odd. You just
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do it. You just do it. So we quite often like there's your
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hard core bit of the electrical game, so you might we twin on Earth.
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We consume units with you know, double sockets, that kind of thing.
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Whereas the smart home thing, like every project is different and you kit
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list is massive. You know. The van used to be set out for
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just being an electrician. Now it's like Craig, you hang on, this
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box has got this in it, and this and it and this has got
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this in all ten different sizes because you need it, and that little bit
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might just stop bas you know where we're coming from. That. Yeah,
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well, and that's the weird thing. You know. Lou started with a
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small van and now we think, actually we need long weelway strands because we
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need to get another couple of tubs in that couple of tubs. So you
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you do learn to you're aware of them things like you learn to block things
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out. You know. There's quite a few different control system manufacturers, you
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know, we won't be dealing with this one and this one at all because
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it just doesn't fit with what we do. So that kind of reduces it
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a bit. But you are still you know, you you know, you
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know, screwed. We're right there, screws or others, aren't we?
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You know, we're And you're like, oh, hang on, there's a
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new RJ forty five crymptool out. You don't need one. You've got four
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and the one you started is still absolutely fine. This one's got a different
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spring action, you know, and even you get like that and now don't
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you feel that? And we say to it and feel that feel that.
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I mean sometimes we do. You know, I feel so old times because
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I say to you, don't know you're born when we started out, you
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needed both arms to crypt and RJ forty five name you can just do it
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like that. Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's good fun. But it's
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kind of we say, it takes over your life, but you are constantly
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doing it. Yeah. And again, I think some people that work for
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companies, they might have a programmer, so they kind of just need to
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content out on the program and we have an install team and that kind of
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thing. Because we do everything. There's so much more to keep on top
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of, and you've got to keep on top of it. You got to.
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Yeah, And when John says we do everything, literally from start to
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finish, we do everything. In fact, we do everything except for plumbing
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and don't you plumbing? Don't you plumbing? Or wall paper paper plumb.
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But it's not really skill is It's not gonna like that? Sorry? Did
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you know what you said the other day on one of the shows the Electricians,
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we wake up and we we paint our nails every day. And I
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text him and said, no, we don't. We use gels before or
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after we count the fifte before we get us the next link. Are only
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misconceptions that customers have with smart home stuff. The thing I think we hear
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most is it's all wireless, isn't it. Yeah, it's all Alexa and
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yeah, up to a point. Some of it is it's becoming a lot
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more affordable that there are some people that think it's like I've got two hundred
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quick to spend and that's the whole house. They think it's a couple of
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les. And I've actually said to my missus, I'd love some cinemas speakers
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in the roof home. And then I go on your Instagram and I go,
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I haven't got the money for them, and I'm not going to ask
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her to do it for free because that would be wrong. But I'll just
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stick with me a little bar under the telly, just go out of the
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people. Yeah, yeah, those are the clients. We're a bit busy
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at the moment. Yeah, any misconceptions. Some people think it's a bit
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scary because obviously there's quite a lot. They can be quite a lot to
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it. And when you mentioned that most things we'll sit on a network,
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so you need a good network infrastructure. Or if I'll lose my internet,
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then where that men it all fails and I won't be able to turn my
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lights on. No, because what's in your house is an enclosed system.
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If your internet fails, it just means you can't turn your lights on from
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outside. Fix Radio. Welcome back to the Electrical Show. I'm Paul Meaning
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with Thomas Naji, and we are here talking to Louis and John talking smart
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home installations. And there's specialism because we do love talking specialisms. We love
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a good special when you do indeed, so next question for you is what
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kind of customers are you working for with smart home installs? And what some
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of the common questions that they put you other than can you do it for
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two hundred quid? Yeah, so we are all done in the afternoon if
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we can about two hundred and fifty and if we can get it cheaper than
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that, even if you're Harry Potter wand and you're wireless electricity. Yeah,
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and they've normally just decorated as well, so you can't get into the walls.
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So do you have like a client base that you will work for and
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not work for sort of thing? Yeah, And I know that nitty might
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come across a bit arrogant. No, we genuinely we accepted years ago we're
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never going to be millionaires. And we do just look at a job and
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go are we going to enjoy doing that one? And if we are,
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that kind of decide whether and then we go, oh, okay, right,
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we better price it now. We'll look at it. That's going to
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be fun, exciting, or sometimes it's just the challenge, you know,
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it's it's a bit new, that's the update, or they want to do
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that and we've only done that one before, so we'll sit down I say
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we lou will sit down work it all out. But clients, honestly,
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it's across the board now because I think more people are here in the term
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smart home, I think initially and I get an impression sort of you know,
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ten years ago, you know you need to have a serious budget,
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whereas now it's getting a lot more accessible. So just thinking about it,
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I mean, we've worked for some amazing people who've clearly done very well,
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and I would say just people like us, you know, they just want
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some smart lighting or some multi zone and audio that kind of thing. So
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it's everyone whether it's going to be exciting for us, and we're really fortunate
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that we just seem to work for nice people. Nice people recommend nice people
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generally. It's it's I think we are aware we're in a very nice situation.
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You know, it gets pick and choose. They're always nice people.
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They've always got biscuits. I used to work in Northeast London when I was
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on gas board and every single person's home I went into an absolute sort of
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the earth, wonderful, lovely, absolutely and that's one of the things that
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I do I miss about going in the domestic sector to different people's phones and
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seeing that there is so many wonderful people left in society. When you see
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everything on the news, you think, oh it's society. It's not a
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good place, but there's lots of good, hard working, decent people out
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there. Yeah, it's just the picture society paints. I think there is
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one story. I mean, this one always makes his laugh. We rate
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our clients on their cups of tea genuinely, you know, well, that's
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me absolutely scroud then and we had one client, I mean he was number
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one for like Matt was one of your first they were clients. He'd been
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number one for years and we've done it job this year. As like you
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say, people the Eastend just really nice. Family had done really well,
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but they were grafters and this was the Sun and he was just proper Eastender.
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They've obviously done very well. The house was just amazing and he always
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made everyone inside a cap of tea and we were there for what a week,
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were a bit more. Every cap of tea was just perfect and it
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was so consistent, and on the last day we just said him, look,
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we've got to ask you what we're expecting him to say, Oh,
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well, we actually have it flown in. You know, they done very
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very well, and he said, I was PG tips, but my first
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ever job was a t boy and it was for his parents business. And
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he said, you've got to make people in the nice cap of tea.
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And he's just gone on from there. And honestly, I even now I
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can almost taste it. It was just have you ever had clients where you've
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like you've gone in and to give a quote or saying and then like both
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of you, you've had mixed opinions, like maybe you wanted to do it
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and you said actually no, like where you've disagreed on whether you should do
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the job. Funny enough, we've never had a mixed opinion. We've both
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ever walked away saying okay, no, we don't want to do this one.
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Yeah I love people watching, you know when you go on holiday.
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Yeah, I just I love it. So I don't know, and I
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can't everything of the time we've ever disagreed on working for a client, just
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we've always if we've always walked away either these ones are well not these ones
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are okay, I don't meet it that way, but yeah, if one's
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okay. Apart from we walk away from one night. Don't want to do
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that. I don't want to work for that person. Just get that feeling.
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Sometimes you can't quite pin it down, but you know you just just
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sorry, as I say, bullet dodge to wherever it is and you just
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now and again you do question it, don't you? You go back going?
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Was it a bit harsh? There? No, Just stick with your
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gut. Time I attend you're right, I wan't your first one. It
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doesn't happen very often. Last time it did happen. Again it's you know,
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nice people know nice. The radio just on that. So can you
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think of any jobs a spring to mind where your workers transformed the customers home,
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seen the house transform over years. We've worked for this guy for probably
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want four or five years Tennis called guy. Yeah, and we've just gradually
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done it. And so we've seen the house continually change. And that's probably
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the whole house we've seen. But yeah, there's one that springs to mind.
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Well, one of our clients want it is. In fact, he's
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he's saw our Instagram page and we've done somebody's media wall. When he said,
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I want that wall in that whole room, but I want shelf down
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the bottom it's my oasis to be away from my family. I want it
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dark, cool, relaxing. And when we'd finished it, he walked in
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and he was just like he was actually speaking. This wasn't me, He's
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he opened his mouth to say so, and no words came out. It
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was it was quite let's quite a nice compliment. Really. Yeah. Sometimes
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we you know you've got it right when the clients will do a double take
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and you know they're walking in the room and you kind of do the ribbon
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cutting is where you called it and they're like oh or you know, they
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will go, oh wow, but this one And weirdly it's not the biggest
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or the most expensive or the poshest. It's our favorite room as well.
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You know, he said, I want it to be my oasis. And
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it's technically it's probably not perfect. It's got a soundbar which is maybe slightly
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at the wrong height, and the surround speakers maybe the left one should be
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there, but you know, you just it's calm in and we sort of
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go in there and we'll just sit on the sofa and go it's just a
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nice room. It just feels really nice and he's really happy with it,
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you know, and he's just like he said, it's his oasis. I
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think the family are allowed in there now and again not very often, but
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yeah, it's yeah, it's not the hate. It's weird. The probably
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the one that's transformed the most most is actually just a single room in the
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house. But it's just it worked brilliantly. Do you find you have to
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work with other contracts as much on side depending on the job, because electrics
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obviously do yourself. Yeah, we do like to own the job, if
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you know what I mean. And again sometimes it might come woks a little
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bit selfish, but you just it's to control the quality, isn't it so?
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And it is quite difficult to find other trades that share that same view.
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I know exactly what you're talking about. It's very difficult. I mean,
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there's some great trades out there, but you you know, you need
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to explain this is what we're doing, this is what needs to look like
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at the end. And over the years we have got to pick up and
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we always recommend to say, do you know a plumber yet when we know
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a great guy looks an absolute thug, but he's just but his works.
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But yeah, but he's very you know, you'll get a call from him.
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Is that Okay, if I do this bit here, that's not going
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to gain your way. And you're brilliant, you know, things like that.
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So yeah, we do. Sometimes we have to seeah, we will
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have to get plumbering decorators, garden designers, an interview designers. Quiet,
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Yeah, probably more can be quite challenging to deal with. Sometimes kitchen fitters
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as well. Kitchen fitters. Yeah, but again the guy we would recommend
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a kitchen fitter, he gets it. You know, they all know.
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The end the game the Electrical Show with Thomas Nagi. It is the end
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of the Electrical Show where we have been speaking to Louise and John about smart
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home installations. Now, what are some of the challenges you've faced just before
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we end the show? Any major challenges you've faced. Its bound to be
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some because we're so boringly prepared always we don't really have sort of cock ups.
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I think it's not a technical challenge. It was a physical challenge,
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physical challenge. We were building a cinema for a client and it's the second
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floor. Yeah, it was on the second floor of his house and he
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said, so, I'll have all the materials here for you on Monday,
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so Paul knows what's coming here. So eight my four sheets supply and yet
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on couple of palettes the driveway. And this was this year in summer,
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thirty degrees thirty degrees up a narrow staircame where you were melting, I mean
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melting it was. I mean, you know, we're going to build a
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cinema. That would be good fun, just like two days humping cheets,
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supply and plaster all up the stairs. That was not a technical challenge,
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of physical challenge. Technical challenge was the time the client asked us to fabric
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that round window and fabric goes on very very straight, hard plastic track.
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So how'd you make hard plastic track which is dead straight go round a round
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window? That the guy that trained us to do fabric work said, and
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you can't do round windows. That's the worst thing you can say to join.
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I'm not sure that's technically right. Let's give it. We did it,
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but yeah, it came out brilliantly perfect. But yeah, so unfortunately,
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no real technical challenges because it just takes some thought, just some thought.
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It's I think one thing that really helps coming from the electrical industry is
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we can be quite blunt and savage, can't We Oh, yes, and
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we'll look at something and go as stupid yep. And I think it's really
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helped us going into this smart home industry because a lot of electricians are kind
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of making that transition. We will look at something and go, it's very
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clever, but that's if it goes wrong, it's going to be a disaster,
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or you're going to have a client on the phone at mid day.
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And we learned that very early on, coming from the electrical industry, and
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go, that's staff, that's stupid, don't do it. We went,
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Okay, so we don't really have I shouldn't be saying this, should I
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the technique clock cuts and challenges yet cool? Do you plan to expand any
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further than the two of you or I mean you've got Lauren. Do do
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you have any plans to expand further? Or we had no intention of expanding
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even today Lauren on to be fair, which is not a great thing to
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say in front of Lauren, but there we hadn't planned to. But Lauren's
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open their eyes and we need to Yes, She's really open their eyes.
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It is a wise investment to invest in apprentices. I have as many as
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I can. You're never going to have a future if you don't invest in
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others. I know it's painful, but you just have to do it.
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We didn't realize how much we knew. You know, you learn from the
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book, don't you, But then you guys know, it's just the things
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you pick up over the years. The book says this, but we have
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to do it that way around, not that way around. And especially with
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someone like Lauren, you can see she's she's listening, she's interested and keen,
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and it goes in because the next time you do that, she goes
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And we're doing that because of that. And then you'll say, and you
27:42
want me to use crymptal number three because you know number ones like two years
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old or something that kind of thing. So yes, we will definitely look
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at that. When Louise, say Louis started the business, we had no
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plans of expanding any way. I've managed people. I hated every minute of
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it. I've many used to run jobs is in East London, so I've
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managed lots of people and yeah, we again quite happy doing our own thing
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and it kind of changed, but it's been good. Well, look very
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quickly before the show ends. Just one last question, how do you see
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smart homes evolving? I'm not in it at all, so I don't know,
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but I'm guessing that's an area which is rapidly. How do you see
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it changing in the next sort of three, four or five years. I
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see tech becoming more end user friendly and more control by the end user.
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I think Paul said earlier on it looked like a dark art. I think
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that will disappear, so at the moment it still does look a little bit
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mysterious. I think it will become a lot more affordable, a lot more
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commonplace, and I think we'll see a lot more out of the box ready
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to go, especially with the artificial intelligence. It's on us now, so
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I think whereas now comes out of the box to set up an Alexa.
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So what you're saying is is you don't have to go to Hogwarts school of
29:03
which class and wizardry. Basically you won't, folks. And smart home is
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definitely going to help with assisted live in helping people stay independent in the home
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is so longer. Yeah, that that that will definitely happen. So I
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think it will become a lot more user friendly, a lot more affordable.
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There will still be this amazing thing that you know you can make it do
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crazy stuff because you want to. But I think every day lights once the
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new build pick it up, I think then we'll start to see it really
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gain in and it will go in you know standard say, you will will
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have some form of light and control with some form of audio. You know,
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we will all have video doorbells, that kind of thing. So a
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lot more commonplace, a lot more affordable. I think you will just open
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the box and go turn my lights on at six o'clock and that will happen.
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Well, there you go. You can hear this show. Oh no
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show, but no ash we are not letting them get away with this.
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So in case anybody's wondering, there is a technical takeaway from this podcast,
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and it's one of the key points if you've listened all the way through.
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international standard for teammaking is IO thirty one h three or BS six zero zero
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eight. So there are two stands for teammaking. I've actually read the British
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standard one it's embarrassing. And in case anybody wants to know how we originally
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know these fine folks we actually met physically by them nearly crashing into us on
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the back roads of Essex. When me is actually true. We're driving one
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