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Inside Democratic Socialists of America · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:14
  Welcome to Trevor Loud Reports on America Out Loud.
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  Today I'm going to talk about democratic socialists of America.
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  We've heard a lot about them lately with Zo Ran Mandami and before that AOC and Rashida Tlaibe and they keep on winning council seats and taking over little county commissions and just growing and growing, growing like topsy.
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  But who are these people?
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  You know, um Zoran Mandami has become the mayor of New York, and we've been told no, he's not a communist.
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  He's just uh, you know, he's a democratic socialist, and this is this is different.
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  This is more like Sweden, it's more like France, it's more like Switzerland, it's not like the old Eastern bloc or anything like that.
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  Nothing, nothing to be scared of.
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  Well, I'm terrified, to be honest.
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  If I was in New York, I would be completely terrified.
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  Um, New York, by the way, has had a democratic socialist of America member as a mayor in the past, and uh that was back in the early 90s, the worst time for New York when the crime was up, the you know, Times Square was a sewage pit, sewage sewage pool, and uh the tourists were staying away, and businesses were suffering.
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  And that was David Dinkins, who served one term from 1990 to 1993, and they couldn't wait to get rid of him.
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  And they brought in Giuliani, who brought in his um, you know, broken windows policy, you know, prosecuting people for the lowest level of crimes to cut the crime levels overall, and things rebounded fast.
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  Well, Mandami is way, way, way worse than Dinkins.
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  Dinkins was the old school democratic socialists of America, a Marxist, but not a crazy man, but Zoan Bandami, he is hardcore.
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  DSA back then could claim to be not quite communist.
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  It can't now.
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  It's communist.
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  It is a hundred percent communist organization.
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  So what actually is democratic socialists of America?
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  Well, you know, the United States is for a long time, for a hundred years, has had two basic strands of Marxism.
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  Well, three or four if you count Trotskyism and later on Maoism, etc.
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  But the oldest two strands are the Communist Party and the Socialist Party, both Marxist, but the Communist Party was more openly allied to the Soviet Union and then later communist China, whereas the Socialist Party was more allied to the international socialist organizations.
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  It would be allied to the British Socialist Party and the French Socialist Party and Canadian Socialist Groups and that sort of thing, not so much to the actually existing socialism, not so much to the Eastern Bloc Communist type operations.
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  So in the you know, the socialist the socialist groups were the main groups up until 1919.
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  There were several socialist parties in America.
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  They coalesced into one major socialist party party, uh, used to run Norman Thomas as their candidate all the time, you know, for about six elections in a row.
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  But in 1919, many of the socialists broke away to follow the Bolsheviks, the leaders of the Soviet revolution in Russia.
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  And so they've in Chicago they founded the Communist Party USA.
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  And for a start, there were two communist, then there were two communist parties for a while, but Moscow forced them to amalgamate.
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  And from about 1921, you had one major communist party in the United States, Communist Party USA, which still exists.
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  And it went up to about a hundred thousand members during World War II when America was sort of allied to the Soviet Union, and it was a sort of semi-acceptable to be a communist.
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  It dropped right back into by the time the early 2000s came around, it was probably down to 1,500, 2,000 members.
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  Now it's more likely about 5,000.
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  And but you know, with hangers on and unions, and they can command a lot of influence around the country.
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  They have churches under their control, they have unions under their control, they have um social agencies and social groups.
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  So although it's only about 5,000 members, they are allied to the Communist Party of Russia, to China, to Vietnam, Mexico, all around the world.
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  They are they are still an influential group.
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  But democratic socialists of America, that came out of the Socialist Party strand.
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  Okay, so the Socialist Party limped on through the 30s and it got quite big again in the 30s, lost a lot of people to the Communist Party.
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  But by the 40s and 50s, it was splitting this way and that.
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  He played a big role in theorizing and forming the basis of Lyndon Baynes Johnson, President Johnson's great society, that great push towards socialism that happened in the early 60s, this big big push to big, big push to bring to bring welfare to the black communities, to bring welfare to the poor white communities.
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  The the probably the one most destructive programs in American history.
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  You know, before the 60s, you know, black families that'd come out of Jim Crow, they were coming out of Jim Crow, they'd come out of slavery.
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  They were doing okay.
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  They were getting into the middle class, you know, the black black communities had lower illegitimacy rates, um, lower divorce rates and higher higher church going rates than the white community.
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  They're all heading in the right direction.
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  And then came the Great Society, um, theorized and worked on by Michael Harrington.
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  Um and Lyndon Baines Johnson put millions of black people onto welfare, destroyed the families, um, took the need for a father out of the families, and we see the results around us every single day.
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  Lyndon Baines Johnson famously said, we'll get those N-words voting Democrat for 200 years.
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  That was that cynical, and look at the damage that he did to this country, all inspired by Michael Harrington, the founder of DSOC, which in 1982 amalgamated with a group called the New American Movement, uh, very patriotic sounding name, right?
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  Um, to form Democratic Socialists of America.
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  They formed it in 1982.
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  But who was the New American movement?
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  Well, in the late 60s, the late 60s, the um the communist party uh split again.
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  This was around 68 when the when the Soviet tanks rolled into Czechoslovakia to sh to snuff out Dubchek's Prague Spring.
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  This was a so-called liberal brand of communism.
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  It was a farce in my opinion.
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  It was a scam, but anyway, it caused a rift in the world communist movement.
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  And some communists left the party, or even some parties split into pro-Soviet factions and more liberal-minded factions.
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  Well, some of the less Soviet aligned people in the in the Communist Party split, and they joined up with a whole bunch of former SDS radicals, you know, students for a democratic society, and they formed the new American movement, which was actually very, very pro-China.
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  And um, so they formed this this new movement, very pro-Nicaraguar, pro-China, but but supposedly socialist.
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  And they were about a thousand members.
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  D Soc, I think had about three or four thousand members.
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  Members at this stage.
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  And in 1982, they put aside their differences and they formed Democratic Socialists of America, led by Michael Harrington.
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  And immediately their goal was to infiltrate and take over the left wing of the Democratic Party.
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  They saw socialism coming to America through the left wing of the Democratic Party.
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  And it was not surprising that one of their earliest friends was a young man called Barack Obama, who went to their meetings and went to their conferences, and also formed that view under the influence of many DSA members, including his position physician, uh Quentin Young, the founder of basically the founder of the socialized health care movement in this country.
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  It was Quentin Young who got Obama onto the Obamacare Socialized Healthcare track, very much so.
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  That was uh that were that was uh that was where that came from.
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  So, you know, you can see this DSA has had a major impact on America from behind the scenes.
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  And so DSA really got going and they started to work with left-wing Congress members very close to Ted Kennedy for many years.
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  Ted Kennedy and Michael Harrington were close friends, they would endorse each other's books.
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  You know, Ted Kennedy was basically uh uh uh a de facto member of them of Democratic Socialists of America, worked very closely with them while also working with the Soviet Union in 1984 uh 1984, I think it was he he ran briefly for president and he went to the Soviet Union to um get them to help him win the presidency to counter Reagan's foreign policy.
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  He asked for Soviet help, and um when a friend of mine, Paul Kingor published that because he found in the archives in Moscow, uh it didn't cause much of a stir.
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  But um uh he asked uh Paul King or asked a CIA guy, you know, did you guys know that Kennedy was working with the Soviets?
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  And he said, Yeah, of course, of course we knew that.
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  And he said, Well, why didn't you do anything?
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  He says, Well, he's Kennedy, he's untouchable, and that is why Clinton is untouchable, you know, Obama's untouchable, all these top levels Soros is untouchable.
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  You get to a certain level, and nobody dares to touch you, and apparently, including President Trump, because uh Trump goes after Andyfar, but he hasn't gone after Soros yet.
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  He hasn't gone after the Clintons, he hasn't gone after Obama because um he'll go for the low-level stuff, but we haven't seen any real movement.
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  And I hope I'm wrong, hope it comes, I hope it happens on those high level people.
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  So, you know, Democratic Socialist America expands pretty rapidly by by the early 80s, it's got uh mid-80s, got about six or seven thousand members, got up to about 10 or 11,000 members by about 1990.
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  I think that was it was growing pretty well.
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  They had a youth section, the young socialists.
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  They um were very well accepted in the uh Democratic Party.
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  Um, you know, you had people like Jerry Nadler, who became a congressman who was a member, Jan Chikowski, who's still a there's a but still a congressman, he's leaving at this term end of this term.
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  Jan Shaikowski of Chicago, another DSA member, Danny Davis of Chicago, another DSA member, Mary Joe Kilroy of Ohio, um, a brief one-term congresswoman, DSA member.
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  Um there was quite a major Owens of New York, another DSA member, uh, Ron Dallums of California, another DSA member, even and he was serving on the Armed Services Committee while he was working with the Cubans and the Communist Grenadins while serving on the Armed Services Committee, chairman of one of their major subcommittees.
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  So DSA was doing well.
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  They were having they were getting a mayors elected all over the country and San Francisco and Albany, New York, um, David Dinkins, as I mentioned before, lots of city councillors, lots of state reps.
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  They even had a Republican state rep in South Dakota for a while, because in South Dakota at that time, you couldn't get elected, and still you couldn't get elected to the legislature unless you were a republican.
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  So this Marxist DSA became a Republican and got elected from South Dakota.
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  So and they also worked through the Green Party, but the main avenue was through the Democrats.
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  And they had about 2,000 academics on their role.
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  You know, university professors also had a religious commission, very, very uh large, significant numbers of left-wing churchmen were members, um, you know, top people in the Episcopalian church, even Mormons, um, top um people in synagogues, very prominent people in um Unitarian Church and and other and and several of the major um Christian denominations, right at the top of the Episcopalians, for example, um, top Catholics were members.
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  So there was a big religious component, a very academic component, and quite a significant labor union component.
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  Um, Cesar Chavez, many of his friends were DSA members.
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  I think Cesar was himself, but not publicly.
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  Um, but Dolores Howerta, his um is offside, his number two was a very prominent member.
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  Um, so was Aliseo Medina, and I'll fast forward on Aliso for a little for a little minute.
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  Also Medina is the father of the illegal immigration movement.
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  He worked with Cesar Chavez in the uh farm workers' union, then he became a top official in SEIU um executive vice president, I believe it was, the biggest private sector union in the country, two million members.
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  And so he went out there and um he he uh campaigned and campaigned and campaigned for uh for legalization of illegal immigrants and in two in 1994, DSA took over the AFL CIO.
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  Because up until that time, the uh the um AFL CIO, the peak trade union body in the country, had been controlled by anti-communists like Lane Kirkland and George Meany, and they actually had a clause in the constitution banning communists from holding office in their unions.
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  But in 1994, John Sweeney of DSA and several others from SCIU, etc.
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  kicked out Lane Kirkland and Sweeney took over as president of the AFL CIO.
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  And they removed the anti-communist clause from the AFL CIO's constitution, and the Marxists came flooding back in.
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  Now, up until that time, DSA's Communist Party, you name it.
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  Up until that time, the AFL CIO, like the Democratic Party, was militantly opposed to illegal immigration because they understood that illegal immigrants took workers' jobs, they lowered wages and conditions, they broke strikes, they were not good for unionized workers.
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  So they um so they uh, you know, the they the Democratic Party reflected that because one thing you'll learn is that DSA pushes the direction of the Democratic Party because DSA controls so many unions and so many Democratic chairmanships and committees, etc., that their policy becomes Democrat policy.
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  It's the Communist Party USA and Democratic Socialist America drive completely the policy formation of the Democratic Party because they have so many secret members, and there's so many members, DSAs and DSA sympathizers in the Congress and the Senate, what they say goes.
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  And because they control the unions and the um, you know, no Democrat can get elected without union support.
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  The Democrats pretty much do what DSA tells them to do.
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  There's a bit of pushback when they get too extreme, but by and large they go along.
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  You know, Nancy Pelosi was very close to DSA, for instance.
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  So, you know, she'd push back against them occasionally when they went too crazy, but by and large, she would follow what they wanted.
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  And so at that time, DSA, um, you know, DSA took over the AFL CIO.
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  At that time, the AFL CIO was anti-illegal immigration.
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  Well, at 2000, the year 2000, Alison Medina at their conference in Los Angeles managed to get the the AFL CIO to 100% flip their policy from opposition to illegal immigration to complete support for it.
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  Now, Alis O'Madina would then become Obama's unofficial advisor on immigration.
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  Obama said in our movie, uh we
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  We quote him, we we show the clip in our movie Enemies Within.
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  We say Obama says, whenever I make a decision on immigration, I consult with LSO Medina first.
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  So that's where the push to open borders came from.
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  And why did they do this?
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  LSO Medina, we quote them again.
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  Haven't we get another clip of them in their movie Enemies Within?
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  Available through our website, TrevorLoudon.com, a must see.
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  Got nearly three million views on Amazon Prime, so they took it down.
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  And uh he said, this is what Ellis Medina said to a progressive conference in Washington, DC in 2009.
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  Latinos voted overwhelmingly for Obama and progressive candidates.
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  70%.
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  There are 11 million undocumented workers right now.
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  If we stand by these people and get them citizenship and voting rights, they will stand with our movement.
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  That will give us at least eight million new Democratic Party voters.
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  That will give us a governing majority for the foreseeable future, meaning forever.
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  That was the whole purpose.
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  Eight million new Democrats.
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  Um most presidential elections are won or lost by less than five million votes.
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  So you can see what a huge advantage that would have been to the Democratic Party.
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  And it's uh so proud of the Tea Parties for basically stopping the amnesty, illegal immigration amnesty under under Obama.
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  That that saved America.
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  They absolutely saved America because if that got that um extra eight million voters, and it wouldn't have been eight million, it would have been more like sixteen million because when they were saying eleven was more like twenty.
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  Now it's probably north of 40 million.
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  Trump's gonna target its support to deport one million illegals this year.
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  One million.
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  That's not even gonna, that's not even, you know, they'll probably breed faster than that.
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  You know, that's no 40 years to get rid of them.
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  No, and we'd never catch up because in 40 years, they would multiply by three or four times.
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  You know, so you know, and I'll say this.
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  Unless Trump gets serious about e-verify, meaning that the the laws passed that any employer caught employing illegals will be deeply prosecuted, heavily fined, even jailed.
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  He is not serious about ending the illegal immigration.
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  Not serious.
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  You know, it's all for show, unless he does that, because if he implements a verify, um, we all know then he's serious.
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  But he won't do it yet because anyway, because the pushback from employers would be too tough.
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  He already back backed off on farm work that's saying, Oh, we're not gonna go after farm workers because we need people to pick our lettuces, right?
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  Now, Americans would do that.
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  You just have to pay them decent wages.
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  And you can have a Brusero program, you can have legal as they used to do.
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  People from Mexico, Guatemala would come here on six month visas.
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  Um, earn money and go back.
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  Do it for year after year.
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  That used to be a uh a common practice.
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  We don't need the illegal immigration.
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  But the point is it was democratic socialists of America that gave us effectively 40 million illegals in the country.
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  So they gave us the Great Society, which wrecked us, basically wrecked America.
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  They they um gave us Obamacare, which is destroying our health care system, and they gave us illegal immigration.
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  This one little group.
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  One little group did all of that damage to America and is still doing massive damage.
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  Green New Deal.
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  It's another DSA program.
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  What is that all about?
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  Replacing electricity and nuclear um hydroelectric with green energy.
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  So, you know, it's all natural.
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  No, it's not.
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  It's about destroying the energy sector, which will wreck the U.S.
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  economy, which will wreck the U.S.
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  military budget, which will render us vulnerable to attack from Russia and China.
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  That's what the Green New Deal is for, people.
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  It's to destroy America.
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  These people are communists, they're against us, they're enemies.
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  So just call a break here, and I'll be back straight after this with more on democratic socialists of America.
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  I've been talking about democratic socialists America.
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  I'm actually writing a book on them right now to be available early next year.
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  Please watch out for it.
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  It'll spin your wheels, it'll blow your mind.
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  Because nobody knows what these guys are.
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  Everybody deeply misunderstands and mis uh underestimates them.
• 31:29
  Nobody is talking about their they just say, oh, they're communists, they're communists.
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  But nobody gives the evidence.
• 31:36
  You know, nobody actually talks about why they're communists, how we know they're communists, and how we know they're revolutionaries.
• 31:44
  Well, so just getting back to to DSA, the history.
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  I don't quite know why, but they the whole Los Angeles chapter, which basically ran LA, you know, Karen Bass was part of that movement.
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  Uh Antonia Villa Grossa was on the fringes of it.
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  They had they basically ran LA through the early 90s, and they had a lot of big names on Hollywood on their side.
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  They had Ed Astner was a big donor to them.
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  Um, you know, they had a lot of a lot of uh, you know, Lisbon Montgomery of Bewitched was a supporter.
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  Um Jackson Brown, the singer was also on their on their donors list.
• 32:33
  You had a whole bunch of actors and Hollywood personalities who would give them money.
• 32:40
  Stanley Scheinbaum, who are a good friend of the Clintons, was a uh hardcore DSA member, married into the Warner brothers family.
• 32:49
  So he was a very rich Marxist.
• 32:52
  So they always had this this pool of rich Marxists who would subsidize their organization.
• 32:59
  But anyway, this for some reason in the early 90s after the collapse of communism, they went into a bit of a free fall.
• 33:06
  And by the early 2000s, they were struggling.
• 33:09
  You know, they still had strong chapters in Chicago and Boston and New York.
• 33:14
  But mostly around the country, they'd collapsed and they would have a big conference and they'd get 200 members, you know, big national conference, maybe get 200 members, you know, a meeting of the New York chapter, you get 20 people coming along, etc.
• 33:30
  A lot of paper members.
• 33:31
  A lot of people joined DSA on paper, but never really did much.
• 33:35
  I think you know, when they had about 12,000 members, you probably would have said 3,000 were active.
• 33:41
  You're real real hardcore active.
• 33:43
  Right now they claim 90,000 members, but I would say there's probably about 15 to 20,000 that actually do stuff.
• 33:51
  The rest are just on paper, might go to the odd meeting or turn up for a May Day rally or something.
• 33:57
  They're not like the Communist Party where everybody has to work all the time.
• 34:02
  DSA, it's much more of a come and do it, do what you want type of affair, which is has its advantages and its disadvantages.
• 34:11
  It's easier to get members, but you don't get as much work out of most of your members.
• 34:16
  But still, so really DSA is probably actively really about 20,000 hardcore members, but that's enough.
• 34:24
  That's four or five times what they would have had in the early 80s, and look at all the damage they did to America then.
• 34:32
  You know, but Lenin took over Russia with 2,000 Bolsheviks, a country of 140 million people at the time.
• 34:39
  You don't need big numbers to have a big impact, especially if you control the unions, and especially if you control large chunks of the Democratic Party and a whole bunch of churches.
• 34:48
  You can get your policies promoted.
• 34:52
  So well, they were sort of moribond, you know, early 2000s.
• 34:58
  They limped along and they still had a good relationship with Obama.
• 35:03
  They were they were promoting his career.
• 35:05
  They helped him get elected to the U.S.
• 35:07
  Senate and they they they piled into his presidential campaign.
• 35:12
  They also helped Jesse Jackson's campaign back in the 80s as well.
• 35:16
  That was mainly a Maoist.
• 35:18
  His two presidential runs were mainly Maoist operations, but DSA helped.
• 35:23
  They were in there.
• 35:24
  So by the early 2000s, they were limping along.
• 35:28
  And by about 2010, 2013, they'd get 120 members to their national convention.
• 35:35
  And they were they were pretty sad, you know.
• 35:38
  They still had influence more than you would expect, but they weren't really a dynamic organization anymore.
• 35:45
  They're really the shell of what they had been.
• 35:48
  But then came Bernie, right?
• 35:51
  2015.
• 35:52
  Bernie announced he was running for president.
• 35:54
  Now, Bernie Sanders always claims he's not a DSA member, but he's been listed as a DSA member several times in their publications.
• 36:02
  He has worked with them for years.
• 36:04
  He was in the young people's socialist league before that, hung around with the Socialist Party, hung around with communists.
• 36:11
  He is a communist.
• 36:12
  He's been to Cuba and Nicaragua, honeymooned in the Soviet Union during communist times.
• 36:18
  Bernie is a communist.
• 36:20
  Sue me, Bernie, if you don't believe me.
• 36:23
  And um, but Bernie decided to run for president, and this just set a spark under what was left of DSA.
• 36:31
  They went from 6,000 members.
• 36:34
  They they because they were associated with Bernie, people started to pay attention to them.
• 36:39
  And they get 6 or 8,000 members, you know, 10,000 members, and every month they'd put in their website, their Facebook page, 12,000, 14,000, 16, 18,000 members.
• 36:53
  And they got up in a couple of years to they were pushing a hundred thousand members, which is as many as the Communist Party had at its height.
• 37:05
  But as I said, the Communist Party people were mainly hardcore cadre.
• 37:10
  A lot of DSAs are just pansy socialists.
• 37:14
  They're just socialists on paper, but not really in action.
• 37:18
  But still they were growing, growing like topsy.
• 37:21
  And you know, and Bernie lost, you know, the Democrats cheated out of his victory, luckily for America.
• 37:30
  And um, you know, Joe Biden um won, well, Hillary Clinton won, got the nomination.
• 37:38
  And um then in 2020, he ran again, and and uh he was pushing and pushing, and he he should have got the nomination, but the Democrats uh knew that he would blow them up.
• 37:53
  He knew that, you know, although they were as communist as he was mostly.
• 37:58
  They knew he was too obviously communist, and so they sabotaged him and they put Joe Biden, Kamala Harrison in the spot.
• 38:06
  And that was the sort of peak for DSA at that point.
• 38:10
  A lot of them got pretty disgruntled after that, and then came COVID.
• 38:14
  Well, in 2020, we got COVID.
• 38:17
  Um, well, no, no, I'm getting it wrong, getting it wrong.
• 38:20
  So Bernie, you know, it was Hiller, Bernie got screwed out of the job, and it was Hillary versus Trump.
• 38:27
  Trump wins, and DSA explodes again.
• 38:31
  And they went through the roof and they're pushing a hundred, they drop back a bit, they pushed up to a nearly a hundred thousand members, and then came COVID.
• 38:39
  And COVID hurt most political organizations because you couldn't meet, and because they're so politically correct, you know, they they were just so, you know, they still wear masks today.
• 38:51
  You know, they still you're still articles in DSA magazines about the virtues of wearing masks.
• 38:58
  They're such responsible socialist citizens, right?
• 39:02
  They they keep those masks on.
• 39:04
  And so they during COVID, they really suffered, and they probably dropped back to, I don't know, 40,000, 50,000 members.
• 39:12
  They lost a lot of people.
• 39:13
  They were they publicly said it was about 70,000, but I think it got down way lower than that.
• 39:19
  And so they were suffering again.
• 39:22
  And um, they were pretty dispirited and and uh, you know, Trump was in the White House, but then Trump runs again in 2024, and they start to build up again in reactions.
• 39:36
  Trump and they got fired up, and then Trump won, and they've built up even further.
• 39:43
  Now they are put officially at 91,000 members right now, aiming for a hundred, hundred thousand, they're trying to get it by the new year, and they could do it too, hundred thousand members, because they are they are going to go full on.
• 40:00
  In their next election.
• 40:01
  They've already got about, I think there's about 12 DSA members standing for Congress this election cycle, this coming election cycle so far.
• 40:10
  Some of them are completely unwinnable seats, but several of them are viable candidates.
• 40:16
  Right now they've got two members, two current members of Congress, AOC and Rashida Tlaibe.
• 40:22
  Corey Bush is trying to come back.
• 40:24
  Oh no, Greg Casar is another one.
• 40:26
  Three.
• 40:27
  Summer Lee is a former member.
• 40:29
  Jan Chaikowski is supposedly a former member.
• 40:32
  Danny Davis is supposedly a former member, but I don't know how former they are.
• 40:37
  But they could they would be aiming to have at least 10 current members by the by the end of the next election cycle, plus obviously Mandami, plus they've got several members of the New York City Council, the Portland Maine City Council, the Atlanta Georgia City Council, Chicago, they got heaps on there.
• 41:00
  Milwaukee, Detroit, Twin Cities, Minnesota, Minneapolis.
• 41:07
  They've got about four or five on the Minneapolis City Council, four or five on the Los Angeles City Council, four on the Portland, Oregon City Council.
• 41:17
  I think they've got people on the Seattle City Council, plus Kansas, plus Albuquerque, plus St.
• 41:27
  Louis, Missouri, plus I'm just trying to think, you know.
• 41:34
  Smaller cities like Ann Arbor, a few on the Denver City Council, whole bunch in the in the Colorado State Legislature, whole bunch in the New York State Legislature, a couple in the Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia State Legislature.
• 41:50
  They are gaining ground.
• 41:52
  Austin, Texas, too.
• 41:54
  They've got them on the Austin City Council on the tech in the Texas State Legislature.
• 42:00
  They've got their friend Lloyd Doggett in Congress down there.
• 42:03
  They've got Greg Casa.
• 42:05
  They've got uh Jasmine Crockett, who's very close to them.
• 42:09
  And so they are gaining ground.
• 42:13
  They are working the electoral fronts.
• 42:17
  Plus, they're pushing the odd Green Party candidate and independent.
• 42:23
  They've got a lot of people on county commissions, nonpartisan races, school boards, county commissions all over the country.
• 42:32
  They're thickened in New York, thick in Illinois.
• 42:36
  They're an Iowa.
• 42:38
  They've got them pretty much everywhere.
• 42:40
  They've got active branches now.
• 42:42
  They went they went up to all 50 states for a while.
• 42:46
  Then they lost, then they lost Alaska and a couple of others.
• 42:52
  They lost Hawaii for a while, but they've recovered that.
• 42:55
  There's about three or four states they don't have an official viable chapter.
• 43:00
  But virtually everywhere else, they've got heaps.
• 43:02
  They've got about 10 chapters in Florida.
• 43:05
  They've got um about 16 or 17 in California, five or six in New York, uh, three or four in Atlanta in Georgia, three and in Arizona, um, you know, several in Minnesota, several in Illinois, all the blue states have got tons and tons of chapters, and in the in the big cities of red states, they've got heaps of them as well.
• 43:34
  Plus, they have young democratic socialists of America, probably a couple of hundred chapters around the world, around the country and high schools and uh high schools and universities and technical colleges all over the country.
• 43:47
  So they're there, they have a presence.
• 43:49
  They're growing, they're expanding.
• 43:51
  But why do I say they are communists?
• 43:54
  Because, okay, they're just democratic socialists, who cares, you know.
• 43:58
  They're just like Swedes.
• 44:00
  No, we could do with a little bit of Sweden in the Midwest, right?
• 44:04
  Well, no, it's not quite that simple because Democratic Socialist America is has cross membership.
• 44:12
  They are virtually every other communist party in America has members in dual members inside DSA.
• 44:21
  They just elected Hannah Schwetz, for instance, to the Albany City Council in upstate New York.
• 44:27
  She is both a DSA member and a communist party USA member.
• 44:32
  They um they have members of Liberation Road, most of them are also DSA members.
• 44:38
  It's a pro-Chinese Communist Party.
• 44:40
  The Freedom Road Socialist Organization has several leading members inside DSA.
• 44:46
  They are also a pro-Chinese Communist Party.
• 44:49
  DSA is a is is establishing um links with communist China right now.
• 44:55
  They have um tons of Trotskyists in DSA, they have lots of Communist Party USA, Committee for Correspondence and Democracy, League of Revolutionaries for a New America, Socialist Party USA.
• 45:09
  Um virtually every communist party in America also has some of their members, sometimes all of them inside DSA.
• 45:19
  So DSA is a big tent now.
• 45:22
  It's all these factions, it's got Maoist factions, Trotskyist factions, communist factions, um, pro-Cuban factions, pro-Chinese factions, pro-Venezuelan factions, and and uh Trotskyists, Maoists, Stalinists, you name it.
• 45:39
  Every single strand of the American communist movement are in there.
• 45:44
  They also have a communist caucus, and one of their co-chairs is a member of that.
• 45:49
  Uh Megan Roma from um Louisiana is a member of the Communist Caucus.
• 45:55
  They have several communist caucus members on there on the national executive, plus they have a merge and groundwork, which are also communist caucuses, and they have a whole bunch of people in key positions as well.
• 46:10
  So it's a big tent, it's a lot of factions.
• 46:13
  It's all it's an alliance, it's a coalition, it's not really a party like the Republicans or the Democrats.
• 46:19
  It's a grouping of a whole bunch of parties under one umbrella.
• 46:25
  DSA also has explicit ties to the Sao Paulo Forum.
• 46:30
  It's part of that.
• 46:31
  Um, the Sao Paulo Forum is it was set up in 1990 by Fidel Castro and Lula de Silva, the president of Brazil, who was put in place with DSA help, by the way.
• 46:44
  Um the AFL CIO and DSA helped get him into power.
• 46:50
  And he's the leader of communism in Latin America right now.
• 46:54
  And so they put together the Sao Paulo Forum, which is now a gathering of about 200 communist socialist and terrorist political parties.
• 47:02
  Um, and their aim is, according to Fidel Castro, to restore to communism in Latin America what had been lost in Eastern Europe.
• 47:12
  So they lost a lot of countries in eastern Europe and they set up the Sao Paulo Forum to bring it, to bring it to, you know, to to bring it to uh to to bring it to Latin America.
• 47:28
  And and that's from Argentina to Mexico.
• 47:32
  The president of Mexico, which is very close, who is close relations with DSA, her party, Marina is close to DSA and to the Liberation Road Communists.
• 47:44
  Um the Sao Paulo Forum is on our borders, and DSA is very, very, very close to them.
• 47:52
  DSA has direct ties to Cuba.
• 47:54
  They've sent several delegations to Cuba now and are regularly meeting with Cuban diplomats.
• 48:00
  Same with Venezuela.
• 48:01
  They have connections to Venezuela, as I said, establishing ties to Communist China, and are very, very close to the Party of European Socialists and the gathering of the European left, which is the gathering of European communist and socialist parties.
• 48:18
  So they um they work in all of that.
• 48:25
  They work in all of that.
• 48:28
  So it's it's they are communists.
• 48:31
  They they are they call for the redistribution of wealth, they call for the smashing of capitalism, they call for the complete takeover of the private sector.
• 48:40
  There's nothing they call for that isn't in the communist manifesto.
• 48:45
  And some of them will say, well, that's in the future.
• 48:48
  Others will say, we want it tomorrow.
• 48:50
  We are hardcore working for some will say, oh, we're still social democrats, which means a slow communist.
• 48:58
  But most, but DSA is a communist party now.
• 49:01
  I'll stand up in court and swear to that.
• 49:04
  They uh celebrate Marx's birthday all the time.
• 49:07
  As I said, they have communist members, communist caucuses, they promote communist policies, they are allied to the Communist Party USA, Liberation Road, Freedom Road Socialist Organization.
• 49:20
  They also got deep ties to the Islamic movement.
• 49:24
  Um, you know, they overlap a lot with care, for instance, the Council on American Islamic relations, lots of uh DSA members in there, like like Linda Sasuur, the famous uh Islamic radical.
• 49:38
  She is a DSA member.
• 49:40
  As I said, uh, you know, Rashida Tslay, uh Zoran Mandami, Ilan Omar is very close to DSA.
• 49:48
  I can't prove she's a member, but she might as well be.
• 49:51
  And um they work very closely with students for justice in Palestine and other explicitly communist.
• 50:00
  Groups, very explicitly communist groups.
• 50:04
  And so they are communists.
• 50:08
  They are working for socialist revolution.
• 50:11
  They're working to take over the Democratic Party.
• 50:13
  There's two schools of thought inside DSA.
• 50:17
  The minority faction wants to split with the Democrats and form an explicitly socialist party to contest for power.
• 50:24
  These are mainly Trotskyist lunatics.
• 50:26
  The more sensible DSA is believe they can take over by completely taking over the Democratic Party.
• 50:34
  They're going to take over the Democratic Party, become the dominant faction, and push communism on America through the Democrats.
• 50:41
  So they got two strategies, two competing strategies, two different facts, well, many different factions in DSA, but those that's where it broadly comes down to those who believe you can win through the Democratic Party and those who believe they must split from the Democratic Party and form a new party.
• 50:59
  But both are communists.
• 51:00
  It's just a uh a matter of tactics.
• 51:02
  And right now, especially since Zo ran Mandami's famous victory, that pro-Democratic Party faction is dominant.
• 51:13
  It is winning the argument right now.
• 51:16
  It's the biggest faction by far and is winning the argument.
• 51:20
  I think there'll probably be a split at some point in a lot of uh there have been many splits in DSA, you know.
• 51:26
  It's one thing you'll notice about them.
• 51:28
  They have a huge churn of numbers.
• 51:31
  I guarantee you that of the initial Bernie Bros, you know, the initial, you know, 80, 90,000 they got in that first burst.
• 51:39
  I'd say probably only 20% of them are still members.
• 51:44
  But what they've done is recruited a whole bunch more.
• 51:47
  Because it's so faction-ridden and it's so unmanageable and so hard to control, and their discipline isn't strict enough.
• 51:57
  They they are always getting factions, they're always getting breakaway people and people just get disgusted.
• 52:04
  But they've been having some good victories lately with Zoran and many council races and that, which is encouraged them and uh, you know, the No Kings rallies, which they're a big part of.
• 52:14
  So they're growing again.
• 52:16
  They are definitely growing, and they should get to their 100,000 members fairly so fairly soon, I think.
• 52:23
  And um, hopefully they don't, but you know, hopefully they implode again.
• 52:28
  But they are heading in a uh a good direction.
• 52:31
  If you want to know about DSA, go to my website, keywiki.org.
• 52:37
  Because I've got over 30,000 DSA members profiled in that thing.
• 52:42
  Probably more than that, actually, if you count by young democratic socialists, etc.
• 52:47
  So go there, look at your local Congress members.
• 52:50
  Go go, it's like Wikipedia.
• 52:52
  It's a big um website, over 180,000 files, 30,000 of them DSA is and you you go and look at look at them.
• 53:02
  You look at you, it's got a search box like Wikipedia in the top right-hand side.
• 53:06
  You type in Democratic Socialist America or Tampa Democratic Socialists of America or Communist Party USA, or your local state rep or your local congressman or you know, Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden, and you type them in the pay, the page will come up, and it's all blue and red link.
• 53:28
  You know, blue links mean this there's a page on on this contact there, red link means we don't have a page yet.
• 53:36
  So you you if you want to know about DSA, go to the page Democratic Socialist America, and we list have lists of well over 200 branches around the country with the memberships and well as many as we can identify.
• 53:51
  So you can look at uh Omaha Democratic Socialist America, and you get a good number of Omaha DSAs.
• 53:59
  And you'll if you live in Omaha, you'll find these people running for city council, running for school board, running the local unions, running the local Democratic Party, chairing the local Democratic branch, etc.
• 54:10
  And you'll start to see how they're affecting your county.
• 54:14
  Same if you're Marin County, California or Hillsborough County, uh Florida, you just go to the Pinellas County uh DSA.
• 54:26
  You know, um if you're in a uh Hawaii, go to the Oahu DSA if you're in wherever you are in um you know Colorado, you go to the Mesa County if you're on the Western Slope, or if you're in Denver, go to Democratic Society.
• 54:43
  If you're in Colorado Springs, we have a branch, uh Fort Collins, they are very strong there.
• 54:50
  Very, very strong.
• 54:51
  They seem to run the city council and Fort Collins, and one of their members is uh was Speaker of the Colorado House, is a Democrat.
• 55:00
  So we have the information on them.
• 55:03
  I'll be putting out a book next year.
• 55:05
  Follow DSA, understand they're as communist as the Communist Party.
• 55:10
  They are not loyal to America, they're loyal to hostile foreign powers, they uh have their people and scientific laboratories and defense institutes.
• 55:20
  Um look, they one of their members, Kurt Stand was jailed for 17 years for spying for Russia and um Russia and the former East Germany.
• 55:32
  And then he uh then his wife, who also got prosecuted, uh, tried to then start spying for communist-controlled South Africa.
• 55:39
  So then he got out of jail and they let him back in.
• 55:42
  Now he's a leading member of the Washington, DC branch of a Maryland section of the Washington, DC.
• 55:49
  Um Prince George's County, I think it is, the Prince George's County DSA, Kurt Stand, a communist party member who turned DSA member, uh turned Soviet spy, his wife was working for the Department of Defense, stealing documents and passing them on to for hostile foreign communist powers.
• 56:12
  He got jailed, she got 21 years, he got 19, I think.
• 56:16
  He served 17.
• 56:17
  They let him out straight back into DSA.
• 56:20
  That's who they are, folks.
• 56:22
  They're communists and traitors.
• 56:24
  So I hope you found this interesting.
• 56:26
  I hope you'll do some further research.
• 56:28
  I hope you'll get my book when it comes out.
• 56:31
  I hope you'll uh peruse KeyWiki.
• 56:33
  I hope you'll stay on top of this.
• 56:35
  They are a major threat to the country and need to be exposed.
• 56:39
  So I want to thank you for listening.
• 56:40
  Uh come back next week, listen to Trevor Loud and Reports, signing out now.
• 56:45
  God bless, God bless America.
• 56:47
  Thank you all.