Latest / Foul Territory / NL WC hot mess, Guards > Tigers, Raleigh’s 60th clinch AL MVP?
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- 0:03Speaker 1: I just wouldn't say back to back days.
- 0:05Speaker 2: This is probably the two most enjoyable days of watching
- 0:09Speaker 2: ball that I've had this entire year. Anyone else with me,
- 0:13Speaker 2: it feels different. Kurtshaw's coming out of the bullpen, Brios,
- 0:18Speaker 2: I mean, that was more of an emergency situation with
- 0:20Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, But you two crats, you're enjoying watching
- 0:23Speaker 2: all of this.
- 0:26Speaker 3: I can't get enough screens going. And then all of
- 0:28Speaker 3: a sudden, it's like the only game that's left is like, oh, wait,
- 0:32Speaker 3: the Mariners. Wait, I gotta stay up and watch the
- 0:34Speaker 3: Mariners clinch. I know they're blowing them out, so it's
- 0:36Speaker 3: kind of like, all right, let's go. And then Cal
- 0:39Speaker 3: hit a dinger and I'm like, yeah, let's go, and
- 0:42Speaker 3: then it like it just powered me through the whole night.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Once the last two days, six forty hits. It's on.
- 0:50Speaker 1: It's difficult to keep up with all of them at once.
- 0:52Speaker 1: I agree.
- 0:53Speaker 2: We did have astros As playing late, although that wasn't close,
- 0:56Speaker 2: and then the Dodgers game went until.
- 1:00Speaker 1: In the morning East Coast something like that.
- 1:02Speaker 2: You were doing well, though it was the next day
- 1:06Speaker 2: gave up once I saw the Diamondbacks tie it.
- 1:08Speaker 4: I went to sleep and I'm like, I got I'll
- 1:10Speaker 4: see this sentence in the morning, because every other game
- 1:12Speaker 4: was over. But once they tied it up and with
- 1:13Speaker 4: the eighth, I was like, yeah, I'm done.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I always look to see the time stamp, like AJ
- 1:17Speaker 2: sent Cayle sixty, which we're about to get into, and
- 1:20Speaker 2: I'm like.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Okay, still up for this?
- 1:24Speaker 3: That was it?
- 1:25Speaker 5: That was it.
- 1:26Speaker 2: You just wanted to make sure you got to sixty.
- 1:27Speaker 2: And then you're like pillow, but don't worry. It carried
- 1:31Speaker 2: the freight for the last hour and change for the
- 1:34Speaker 2: Diamondbacks to allow the Mets to still have their little
- 1:37Speaker 2: path to control their own destiny.
- 1:39Speaker 1: But let's charge charge about.
- 1:44Speaker 2: For the first time since two thousand and one, the
- 1:48Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners take the American League West and cal Riley
- 1:52Speaker 2: hit not one, but two.
- 1:54Speaker 1: He's up to sixty. I thought this was cool. Kratz.
- 1:57Speaker 2: You pointed out how much the MVP odds have shifted
- 2:00Speaker 2: too for col But here's the celebration. Back to back
- 2:03Speaker 2: bottle popping. Now we've documented this. Players don't drink like
- 2:08Speaker 2: they used to, but you do get back to back
- 2:10Speaker 2: night to this and it's pretty awesome.
- 2:12Speaker 1: It's fun. Right.
- 2:13Speaker 5: The Rockies might have a chance tonight to win.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I actually don't think they will.
- 2:18Speaker 4: I'm just saying no. I mean they have a chance
- 2:20Speaker 4: because they're two Knights in a row. The Mariner's popping
- 2:22Speaker 4: and then a Mariners don't know who they're pitching, or
- 2:25Speaker 4: you know, it's maybe a bullpen game.
- 2:27Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 2:27Speaker 4: But here's the thing, Like, if I've been saying this
- 2:30Speaker 4: for months, Cal Rawley should win the MVP. It's historical year.
- 2:33Speaker 4: I said months ago he was going to get to sixty.
- 2:35Speaker 4: All laughed at me. He got to sixty, and now
- 2:39Speaker 4: what because he should still be the MVP. I know
- 2:41Speaker 4: Judge's numbers are better across the board, but the position
- 2:45Speaker 4: he plays, the first time they've won their division in
- 2:48Speaker 4: twenty four years, sixty home runs most homers from a
- 2:51Speaker 4: switch it or most other homers from a catcher by far.
- 2:55Speaker 4: It's ridiculous he should win this award. And I know
- 2:57Speaker 4: people can make the argument judges ops this and that,
- 3:00Speaker 4: but Cal plays such an important role on this team.
- 3:03Speaker 5: Is not only a catcher but the leader.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Listen when they clinched the playoffs, who did they interview
- 3:08Speaker 4: they didn't interview Julio Rodriguez. They had Cal Rawley on
- 3:11Speaker 4: the field. That tells you everything you know about who
- 3:13Speaker 4: they think their most valuable players.
- 3:15Speaker 2: You also can speak to something that not many can.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Same with Kratz. Cal Raley plays the catcher position. The
- 3:22Speaker 2: catcher position versus the outfield position. I don't think numbers
- 3:25Speaker 2: do justice what the difference is.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Look look at the.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Numbers for most catchers in baseball, look at the offensive
- 3:32Speaker 2: numbers for most catchers in baseball, and then look at.
- 3:34Speaker 4: Cal You can't quantify it. You can't quantify what Cal
- 3:37Speaker 4: Ray does offensively and less. Savagetti won the Platinum Globe
- 3:40Speaker 4: last year.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Defensively, well, some people are like, well not this year.
- 3:44Speaker 2: His defense is very good still this year.
- 3:46Speaker 4: Don't worry, he's very He's If he's not the best
- 3:49Speaker 4: defensive catcher in baseball in the American League, who is.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I gotta look at the framing metrics this year he's
- 3:56Speaker 1: up there.
- 3:57Speaker 4: He's he can throw, he blocks, he plays every day,
- 3:59Speaker 4: and he hits, sounds like a great.
- 4:03Speaker 3: And his pitching staff's really good. You do get some
- 4:06Speaker 3: credit for calling a game, whether it's youth here and
- 4:09Speaker 3: you're not throwing the pitch. I get it, but you
- 4:11Speaker 3: get some credit for calling a good game and he's
- 4:14Speaker 3: led this team. But is it historic enough that? To me?
- 4:19Speaker 3: I think that's the question because recent history says if
- 4:22Speaker 3: it's a historic enough season, then he will win it,
- 4:26Speaker 3: then he will win the MVP. Because you go back
- 4:29Speaker 3: to twenty two and you look at show Hay's season,
- 4:33Speaker 3: he had a better season than Aaron Judge. He was
- 4:36Speaker 3: number four in cy young he ended up being number
- 4:38Speaker 3: two and in MVP voting, and you would say he
- 4:44Speaker 3: had a better season value wise, but Judge was historic.
- 4:47Speaker 3: So is Col's historic enough to beat out Judge this year?
- 4:54Speaker 1: I don't think it's close.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Because you have to decide cal Judge, and I think
- 5:01Speaker 2: most people should just be deciding Kyle. So I don't
- 5:03Speaker 2: think the voting is going to be as close as
- 5:05Speaker 2: people believe it will be. I don't Judges had an
- 5:09Speaker 2: amazing season, but it's not cal Raley.
- 5:12Speaker 1: There are a lot of other factors too.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Some people are gonna get after you AJ for saying, oh, well,
- 5:17Speaker 2: I haven't won a division in a billion years, and
- 5:19Speaker 2: they're gonna say I don't care.
- 5:21Speaker 1: History doesn't matter.
- 5:23Speaker 4: If it doesn't matter. Then if it doesn't matter, then
- 5:27Speaker 4: it definitely matters. When Aaron Judge won the MVP, he
- 5:29Speaker 4: broke the all time home run record. If it didn't matter,
- 5:31Speaker 4: maybe sure he should have won.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Well, they're saying the team performance shouldn't matter, that they
- 5:36Speaker 1: want a division most valuable, also valuable.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Also, I know that this could be a little bit
- 5:43Speaker 2: out in left field, but some teams have not won
- 5:46Speaker 2: much and you can point to ownership, GMS, the player personnel, whatever.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Do you believe that some ballparks make it more difficult
- 5:55Speaker 2: to win?
- 5:56Speaker 1: Like? Do you?
- 5:56Speaker 2: I mean Colorado is the extreme example, but for the
- 5:58Speaker 2: last few years where like the offense is brutal in
- 6:02Speaker 2: Seattle for home and for the opponent.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Right, and then all of a sudden, here's cal Riley saying, no,
- 6:07Speaker 1: we're good.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Sixty home runs in Seattle. That is a tough freaking park.
- 6:11Speaker 2: It's maybe not the excuse it should be, but that's
- 6:14Speaker 2: a tough part to at home runs in Seattle versus
- 6:18Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium.
- 6:20Speaker 4: Come on, agreed, this isn't even This shouldn't even be
- 6:24Speaker 4: an argument. Listen, Aaron Judge is having a great year. Again,
- 6:27Speaker 4: this shouldn't be an argument. Historical year, historical all time year.
- 6:31Speaker 5: That's it.
- 6:32Speaker 4: That's the answer is this is a year we'll probably
- 6:35Speaker 4: never see again ever from a catcher ever, he should
- 6:39Speaker 4: be the MVP, he should win it. And I'm sorry,
- 6:42Speaker 4: and Yankee fans come at me, I don't care, because
- 6:45Speaker 4: I'm right and you are.
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- 7:54Speaker 3: Homers. I mean, are we okay? Are we okay with
- 7:57Speaker 3: the first ever MVP having a batting average this low?
- 8:01Speaker 4: Yeah, batting average doesn't matter anymore, they tell us all
- 8:04Speaker 4: the time.
- 8:05Speaker 5: Betting everage doesn't matter. Since when does batting average matter?
- 8:07Speaker 1: The sport doesn't value it at all.
- 8:09Speaker 4: Exactly Luisa rise would be making twenty million dollars a year.
- 8:12Speaker 5: Batting average matter.
- 8:13Speaker 1: The sport does not give a crap about batting average.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Talk to any they want homers, because who's leading the
- 8:19Speaker 4: world homers?
- 8:21Speaker 5: Cal Rowley, talk.
- 8:22Speaker 2: To any front office about batting average? What will they say?
- 8:25Speaker 1: What's this batting average?
- 8:27Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 8:27Speaker 4: What's the all time OPS record for a catcher first season,
- 8:31Speaker 4: for a full season. I mean, I don't know, but
- 8:34Speaker 4: Cal Row's got to be pretty close.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to try to see if I can
- 8:40Speaker 2: ask some ai that real quickly. But I'm sure I'm
- 8:44Speaker 2: sure Cal's up there. You want ops or you want
- 8:47Speaker 2: OPS plus ops. Okay, it looks like Piazza was one
- 8:53Speaker 2: seven er different era, and we're like, are we going
- 8:57Speaker 2: to start doing those?
- 8:57Speaker 5: We're not gonna. I'm just asking because Cals would not.
- 9:02Speaker 1: One seventy two ops plus, I.
- 9:05Speaker 4: Mean for a catcher, compare him to other catchers, much
- 9:08Speaker 4: like Mike Piolza compared to other catchers.
- 9:10Speaker 5: That's insanity.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Number yeah, and catchers a dead spot for most teams. Yes,
- 9:14Speaker 2: people are gonna say, hey, judges are two thirteen, that's great.
- 9:18Speaker 2: It's great every other year.
- 9:19Speaker 4: Behind the plaint for one hundred and thirty games, and
- 9:21Speaker 4: let me know, if he makes it, you ain't gonna
- 9:23Speaker 4: make it.
- 9:24Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
- 9:24Speaker 4: I know he's not a condition that he's different type
- 9:26Speaker 4: of player, but he ain't gonna make it. That's the
- 9:29Speaker 4: difference to me.
- 9:29Speaker 5: That's it.
- 9:31Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty five RBIs for Cal. Cols played
- 9:34Speaker 2: a little more. Obviously Judge missed a little bit of time.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Then their argument would be would Cal would Cal have
- 9:39Speaker 3: won a batting title if he played right field all year?
- 9:42Speaker 3: Would he had had seventy homers had he played right
- 9:44Speaker 3: field all year? That's gonna be. That's gonna be the
- 9:47Speaker 3: other side.
- 9:47Speaker 4: Of the argument kel have seventy homers we played in
- 9:49Speaker 4: Yankee Stadium. How many homers in Safego whatever team mobile
- 9:52Speaker 4: that went to the warning track, especially in right field,
- 9:55Speaker 4: that would have been homers in Yankee Stadium. I mean,
- 9:57Speaker 4: there's you can make arguments, so you're blue in the face,
- 10:00Speaker 4: but I'm sorry this time.
- 10:02Speaker 5: Listen. I'm a Judge guy. I love Judge.
- 10:04Speaker 4: I think Judge is one of the best players we've
- 10:06Speaker 4: seen in a really long time.
- 10:08Speaker 5: But for this one year, it's cal rowing. It's just
- 10:12Speaker 5: it's it. I'm sorry.
- 10:15Speaker 2: And for the Mariners the last time they won the
- 10:18Speaker 2: American League West, I think it's worth showing the tweet there.
- 10:21Speaker 1: About what was popular and sixteen games. You remember that team.
- 10:26Speaker 5: I played against that team a lot nasty.
- 10:28Speaker 1: They That was Echiro's rookie year, Rose rookie year.
- 10:31Speaker 4: They had Bret Boon, a second ol Arruda, first Carlos
- 10:34Speaker 4: g in it short. Uh jeez, yeah, this is exactly.
- 10:42Speaker 5: Coming out. I mean, Harry Potter.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Movie Shrek was released in theaters. First Harry Potter movie
- 10:49Speaker 2: was number one iPad not sorry.
- 10:52Speaker 5: Original which I still have. I still have an original
- 10:56Speaker 5: one looks just like that.
- 10:58Speaker 1: It wasn't out in two thousand and one. No, Alicia Key, I'll.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Tell you how I'll tell you how crazy he was.
- 11:03Speaker 4: So we all have a phone. Yep, we had the
- 11:06Speaker 4: old flippy phone.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Right.
- 11:08Speaker 4: You played Snake on Everyone played Snake Remember Snake on
- 11:10Speaker 4: the phone.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:11Speaker 4: So there was a game and we were chasing down
- 11:13Speaker 4: Cleveland that year in Minnesota and Cleveland won the division.
- 11:16Speaker 5: We didn't.
- 11:16Speaker 4: And they played the Mariners I think it was the
- 11:18Speaker 4: Marinors and the Mirrors had like a crazy lead. It
- 11:22Speaker 4: was like ten to one or twelve to nothing, and
- 11:25Speaker 4: we were all watching on our phone and we're like, oh,
- 11:26Speaker 4: the Mirrors are going to hold on. The Guardians came back.
- 11:28Speaker 4: Indians and Done came back and won that game. We're like, oh,
- 11:31Speaker 4: we're probably screwed. I think it was in like August,
- 11:33Speaker 4: but that was the year that in Seattle on the
- 11:36Speaker 4: Hit It Here when it used to be the Hit
- 11:37Speaker 4: It Here Cafe, they're like, we don't count k's, we
- 11:40Speaker 4: count sweeps. And they hung brooms because they won so
- 11:42Speaker 4: many games. It was freaking stupid.
- 11:44Speaker 2: August fifth, two thousand and one, Indians, we did the
- 11:46Speaker 2: largest comeback in MLB history, twelve run deficit against the Mariners,
- 11:50Speaker 2: winning fifteen, fourteen and eleven innings.
- 11:52Speaker 1: There was a fourteen to two lead in that game.
- 11:55Speaker 4: Yeah, and we were sitting there on our phone going
- 11:56Speaker 4: like this, Oh dude, all right, we're gonna pick up
- 11:59Speaker 4: a game because we were on a plane flying somewhere
- 12:01Speaker 4: and we're all watching in our phone. Yeah, we're gonna
- 12:03Speaker 4: We got a chance to pick up a game because
- 12:04Speaker 4: we had already won. And then as we're watching and
- 12:06Speaker 4: we're like no, And it was like the old flip
- 12:08Speaker 4: phone that barely had an Internet, and you're like, well,
- 12:10Speaker 4: we're what, We're not holding antenna and everything.
- 12:14Speaker 2: You're holding it up somewhere and everyone's looking at their
- 12:16Speaker 2: phone like, no way, it's fourteen to ten or whatever, like.
- 12:19Speaker 5: No way.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Times have changed.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I will say, for as well as
- 12:26Speaker 2: Seattle has played crats, the Houston Astros made it easy
- 12:30Speaker 2: for them in this final week. They have completely crumbled
- 12:34Speaker 2: right now and they're probably out of a playoff spot.
- 12:36Speaker 2: But the Mariners, I will definitely say, won the division.
- 12:39Speaker 2: And I know you guys like to say, did this
- 12:40Speaker 2: team win or did this team?
- 12:42Speaker 1: Class?
- 12:42Speaker 2: Mariners won the division, but the Astros made it easy
- 12:45Speaker 2: for them.
- 12:47Speaker 3: Part of the collapse was they beat them. They swept
- 12:49Speaker 3: the Mariner I mean they swept the Astros. They started this.
- 12:52Speaker 3: They were like, hey, you know what, oh man, if
- 12:55Speaker 3: we take two of three, if the Astros take two
- 12:57Speaker 3: of three, it's just gonna be same old Astros. They
- 13:00Speaker 3: came into Houston. It wasn't at home. They came into
- 13:04Speaker 3: Houston and they said, screw it, We're going east to
- 13:07Speaker 3: Spokane and we're going to sweep a team. That to me,
- 13:11Speaker 3: that's an explanation point to me. The Mariners won it.
- 13:13Speaker 3: I don't think the Astros lost it. They put the
- 13:15Speaker 3: Astros on a skid.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Well.
- 13:18Speaker 4: The Astros also lost it because they've got their asses
- 13:21Speaker 4: whooped in Sacramento the last couple of days, which, by
- 13:23Speaker 4: the way, I was also watching this game, so the
- 13:26Speaker 4: A's went no part of Sacramento. But they were selling
- 13:28Speaker 4: shirts in green and gold it said Sacramento. So wait,
- 13:32Speaker 4: I thought they didn't want to be known as Sacramento
- 13:35Speaker 4: because Dallas Brandon, what's the the girl play name?
- 13:40Speaker 1: Oh, Jenny Kabner.
- 13:41Speaker 5: Jenny Kabner.
- 13:41Speaker 4: We're holding him up like, look, we have these Sacramento
- 13:43Speaker 4: a shirts. Everyone buy them and you're like, wait, but
- 13:46Speaker 4: I thought they didn't want to go by Sacramento.
- 13:49Speaker 2: They're trying to pivot a little bit because Sacramento hasn't
- 13:52Speaker 2: embraced them like they thought, because they feel like an
- 13:54Speaker 2: ugly step child.
- 13:55Speaker 1: That's part of this, But.
- 13:57Speaker 5: It was I was. I was sitting here watching going like, wait, what.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Think about it?
- 14:01Speaker 2: Yeah, if a team came here and they were like Orlando, no,
- 14:04Speaker 2: Orlando anything, you get nothing, you'd be offended. Of course,
- 14:08Speaker 2: that's exactly the story.
- 14:09Speaker 1: It's that's great.
- 14:11Speaker 2: People are pissed and they're trying to wiggle their way
- 14:13Speaker 2: back in because they have years left to go there.
- 14:16Speaker 1: That's what I haven't.
- 14:17Speaker 4: I mean, they haven't really adopted Sacramento at all.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Dude.
- 14:21Speaker 2: I hear individual human beings with conversations on the broadcast,
- 14:25Speaker 2: that's all.
- 14:26Speaker 1: I'm gonna say.
- 14:26Speaker 5: What's their average tenants? Under ten thousand? Right?
- 14:29Speaker 1: Yeah? Under ten thousand? For sure.
- 14:30Speaker 5: There was nobody at the game.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Two thousand probably at that game.
- 14:33Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. I don't know how many
- 14:35Speaker 5: they have, but.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. They sold season ashers didn't show up either, exactly.
- 14:43Speaker 4: They got them win tonight. I mean, listen, it's in
- 14:45Speaker 4: my it'll be in my lock. I'm taking them. They
- 14:47Speaker 4: can't go there and get swept. There's got to be
- 14:49Speaker 4: some astro pride. It's got to be some astro pride tonight.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Hey, Kyle Schwarber has twenty three home runs against the
- 14:57Speaker 2: lefty this season. That's an MLB record most tim runs
- 15:01Speaker 2: for a lefty leafty.
- 15:02Speaker 5: He's so good, he's so fun to watch.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, did I know.
- 15:06Speaker 4: Krawts watched the Phillies game last night? But you know
- 15:08Speaker 4: I had the direct TV with the eight screens, all
- 15:11Speaker 4: of them going uh.
- 15:13Speaker 5: Sosa hit the home run and they called it fan interference.
- 15:15Speaker 4: Like, there's no a fan can't interfere with the ball
- 15:17Speaker 4: in Philly and left field unless they have the go
- 15:20Speaker 4: Go Gadget arms that are like twelve feet long because
- 15:22Speaker 4: there was a giant flower bed.
- 15:23Speaker 5: Now Umbar's like fan interference.
- 15:26Speaker 4: I'm like, it's impossible for them to be fan infir
- 15:29Speaker 4: I mean literally unless the guy had the longest arms
- 15:31Speaker 4: of all time.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Inspector Gadget.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they. I think they changed the flowers.
- 15:36Speaker 3: I don't think they have the flowers there anymore. There's
- 15:40Speaker 3: still there's still there's still a distance. Yeah, but that
- 15:44Speaker 3: was bad. That was poor. Uh death perception must have
- 15:47Speaker 3: been Scott Barry. He was he stopped doing the game
- 15:50Speaker 3: in Toronto. They called that ball foul for George Spring.
- 15:53Speaker 2: With the bases loaded, Philly's at a franchise record eight homers,
- 16:00Speaker 2: so said three.
- 16:02Speaker 3: They did a cool Yeah, they did a cool postgame picture.
- 16:06Speaker 3: They did a cool postgame picture with Uh outto camp.
- 16:11Speaker 3: And then they did two Schwarbers. They put two Schwarbers
- 16:14Speaker 3: next to each other, and then three Edmundos Sosa's and
- 16:17Speaker 3: then Alec Boum because they broke the record, they all
- 16:20Speaker 3: took a picture. I forget who the four guys were.
- 16:23Speaker 2: We're gonna do a deep dive on the nationally wildcard
- 16:25Speaker 2: that nobody wants. But for two minutes here, the Dodgers
- 16:28Speaker 2: bullpen is getting remade on the fly Kershaw relief appearance
- 16:31Speaker 2: first time since twenty nineteen. Roki Sazaki is back with
- 16:35Speaker 2: a nice ninety nine piece on his fastball. They I
- 16:38Speaker 2: led Kirby Yates. Robleski looked great closing out the game.
- 16:41Speaker 2: They're gonna be freaking fine.
- 16:42Speaker 4: As much as I said, Sazaki is not gonna be
- 16:44Speaker 4: on the roster. I'm gonna have to take that back
- 16:48Speaker 4: after watching. That might be his role going forward. That
- 16:52Speaker 4: might be his role because he actually could throw it
- 16:54Speaker 4: over the plate. You don't have to worry about one
- 16:56Speaker 4: inning instead of trying to throw it over the plate
- 16:57Speaker 4: for multiple.
- 16:58Speaker 1: He's a kid too, He's still done. He's like twenty three, right.
- 17:01Speaker 4: Yeah, but still he was in Japan for a while
- 17:04Speaker 4: he threw it over the plate, but over here he
- 17:05Speaker 4: could throw it over the plate, especially a split. He
- 17:07Speaker 4: also got a nice call by one I don't know
- 17:09Speaker 4: who the home played on.
- 17:10Speaker 1: You got a nice strikeout calling him home up struggle striking.
- 17:15Speaker 4: By the way, if you ever watched the Diamonbacks who
- 17:18Speaker 4: started the guy gosh, dang it uh for the uh
- 17:22Speaker 4: for the diamond who started that game for the Diamondbacks
- 17:25Speaker 4: right now, Well, he threw a ball to Max Munty
- 17:28Speaker 4: that was like not even like close.
- 17:31Speaker 1: It was like middle middle ball.
- 17:33Speaker 3: And then and uh.
- 17:34Speaker 4: Brandley and then go man, I hope that doesn't come back,
- 17:36Speaker 4: and he ended up punching him out like on a curveball.
- 17:38Speaker 5: But he literally threw one, I mean right.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Down the middle ball, retweeted on ft oh. We were
- 17:44Speaker 2: like when is a BS that was bad. But anyway,
- 17:50Speaker 2: the bullpen's gonna look different.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Crats it is, and that's crazy. That's crazy for Dave Roberts.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Dave Roberson is going into a land unknown for him
- 18:01Speaker 3: cause normally he's just going right to the bullpen. Last
- 18:04Speaker 3: year they leaned on it. Now this year he's got
- 18:06Speaker 3: to figure it out on the fly.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Krats.
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- 19:20Speaker 2: Who wants the last wild card spot in the National League?
- 19:24Speaker 5: Nobody?
- 19:25Speaker 1: Who wants it?
- 19:26Speaker 5: Nobody?
- 19:28Speaker 1: Nobody you know who wants it.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Paul Markeens wants it as he played spoiler for the Pirates.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw wants it as he filled in an inning
- 19:37Speaker 2: for the Dodgers to help take down the Diamondbacks.
- 19:40Speaker 1: The Cubs offense scored ten on the Mets.
- 19:43Speaker 5: Didn't you take the under?
- 19:45Speaker 1: No, no sweat? Oh my gosh, that was easy and
- 19:53Speaker 1: not at all. You know what, He's a baby. He
- 19:57Speaker 1: was not expected to do.
- 19:58Speaker 4: This veteran team that has now watched tape on him,
- 20:02Speaker 4: and they took away his best pitch, which is his
- 20:04Speaker 4: change up, and they and he got I think he
- 20:06Speaker 4: got half the half and second about he threw it
- 20:09Speaker 4: again and have Wallly muffled it.
- 20:12Speaker 2: And he wasn't locating when I think it was the slider,
- 20:14Speaker 2: he wasn't locating. So it was like fastballs that they're
- 20:17Speaker 2: hitting and the change upright that they got rid of.
- 20:20Speaker 1: They reached at one point, I think six in a row.
- 20:22Speaker 1: They knocked him out early.
- 20:24Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did you see the coolest woe in that game?
- 20:26Speaker 5: For me?
- 20:26Speaker 4: Then I kind of turned it off. There was like
- 20:28Speaker 4: seven to nothing. Was PCA hit the fly ball right
- 20:31Speaker 4: and uh Bias Teros came running home and scored. How
- 20:35Speaker 4: happy PCA was that he hit the sackfly and how
- 20:39Speaker 4: happy his teammates were. That was like, that's what it's about.
- 20:41Speaker 4: When you get to this point. It's amazing how many
- 20:43Speaker 4: times you watch these games, especially oh my gosh, the
- 20:46Speaker 4: Reds and the Pirates and x RA innings. There's a
- 20:48Speaker 4: runner on second and nobody out and it's the Reds
- 20:51Speaker 4: are tie game or whatever, and they can't their leadoff
- 20:54Speaker 4: guy in and can't hit a ball to the right.
- 20:55Speaker 4: So all they're doing is like, let's try and yank.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Let's try and yank and try and yank. Dude, all
- 21:00Speaker 4: you gotta do is get the gun a third and
- 21:01Speaker 4: hopefully drive him in. It's just it's it's just not
- 21:04Speaker 4: there because it's not taught, it's not expected you watch.
- 21:06Speaker 2: I could not look away at the train wreck of
- 21:08Speaker 2: the Pirates and the Reds Crafts. They ate up four
- 21:11Speaker 2: hours of my life last night, and I was watching
- 21:12Speaker 2: the other games on the side, but I was dialed
- 21:14Speaker 2: in because first of all, you had Skins and Green
- 21:16Speaker 2: and they both pitched well. Skeins beat him though, and
- 21:18Speaker 2: he was loving it, and so was Livy Done six
- 21:20Speaker 2: shot out innings, seven k's one nine to seventy ra
- 21:23Speaker 2: best in baseball this year. Cy Young Lockett's done. But
- 21:26Speaker 2: both offenses are just a really tough watch. But it's
- 21:29Speaker 2: actually enjoyable to watch because you're just like every moment
- 21:33Speaker 2: that he's talking about is not executed like a winning team.
- 21:38Speaker 3: No, like the Reds they get it. Yeah, I mean
- 21:42Speaker 3: Tyler Stevenson, he got up there, he was four for
- 21:44Speaker 3: four at the time, he was like, I'm gonna win
- 21:46Speaker 3: this game, and then he punched out against Johann Ramirez.
- 21:51Speaker 3: I think he's been on like seven different teams because
- 21:54Speaker 3: he didn't take the slider the other way or he
- 21:56Speaker 3: chased out of the zone like it's I I give
- 22:00Speaker 3: it to you that you watched that game, because you
- 22:03Speaker 3: got to watch. What we love in baseball is a
- 22:05Speaker 3: Marquee matchup, Marquee starting pitching matchup, and it fit that bill.
- 22:10Speaker 3: But you texted at the end, you go, I just
- 22:12Speaker 3: wasted four hours of my day, Like why did I
- 22:14Speaker 3: take up a scream? They did not well outside of Stevenson,
- 22:19Speaker 3: like the inside the park Homer was fun from Noelvie
- 22:22Speaker 3: Marteo was fun, but like wouldn't happened if you played
- 22:26Speaker 3: it correctly. You know, you didn't fall down at the
- 22:28Speaker 3: wall anyway.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Yeah, O'Neil Cruz has been a roller coaster.
- 22:33Speaker 2: He's got a little better, but he's not a center
- 22:36Speaker 2: fielder this year.
- 22:37Speaker 1: That is on a first division team. It's working progress.
- 22:39Speaker 5: The rest of the Pirates except for Skiings.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Yeah, and Nick York played a nasty second base. He
- 22:43Speaker 2: made two insane diving plays. He saved the game at
- 22:46Speaker 2: one pointed the ball.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Where he threw the first and the first basement. Horowitz
- 22:50Speaker 4: fell on the bag, slipped and then ate ate it
- 22:53Speaker 4: and he threw and he still caught it bare hand.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Horroritz on the back. That was the game. That was
- 22:57Speaker 1: the big play right there, I think that that was Ellie.
- 22:59Speaker 5: Ellie smashed.
- 23:00Speaker 2: And it's cool because I'm not watching every Reds game
- 23:02Speaker 2: all year obviously, and and so they did a really
- 23:04Speaker 2: nice job on the broadcast. Multiple times they're like, biggest
- 23:06Speaker 2: at bat of so and so's career because the Reds
- 23:08Speaker 2: are usually not in it right so they're.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Like, biggest home run everyone, Everyone had the.
- 23:13Speaker 5: Biggest of their career last night. For the rest it
- 23:15Speaker 5: was like every guy.
- 23:16Speaker 1: The biggest hit, the biggest bottom eight. Last night it
- 23:20Speaker 1: was Ellie.
- 23:20Speaker 2: They're like, this is the biggest at bat of the
- 23:22Speaker 2: best player on the team's career right now.
- 23:25Speaker 1: And Nick York made the play.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's stepping bare hand on the bag making
- 23:31Speaker 2: the catch. No crats, whoa, whoa whoa misquoted, not wasted.
- 23:36Speaker 2: I'm just saying I war wanted to point out I'm
- 23:38Speaker 2: watching Red's Pirates for four hours last night at the
- 23:42Speaker 2: end of September. Hell no, So, I actually really enjoyed it.
- 23:45Speaker 2: I thought it was the most entertaining game because of
- 23:48Speaker 2: the late innings. You're just seeing how things are not
- 23:50Speaker 2: being executed correctly over and over again.
- 23:53Speaker 1: A lot of issues on both sides.
- 23:55Speaker 4: Also, the Reds have a chance to night well they're
- 23:58Speaker 4: in Raindol, but to play early and win and then
- 24:00Speaker 4: put pressure.
- 24:01Speaker 5: On the Mets and the Diamondbacks.
- 24:02Speaker 4: And they could have done it last night, and they
- 24:04Speaker 4: could have done it the night before, and they haven't
- 24:05Speaker 4: done anything. So they got Lodolo going against Ashcraft, right,
- 24:09Speaker 4: they gotta win. They got they whenever they get to start,
- 24:12Speaker 4: they got to jump out early and put the pressure
- 24:14Speaker 4: on the other teams.
- 24:15Speaker 2: What I do learn is there are some teams that
- 24:17Speaker 2: I watch and just going off recent history and most
- 24:20Speaker 2: teams having pretty good offenses when they make it to
- 24:21Speaker 2: the World Series.
- 24:23Speaker 1: There are a lot of teams are gonna be able to.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Cross off, like the Reds if they make the playoffs,
- 24:26Speaker 2: maybe they steal around. But that offense is not winning
- 24:29Speaker 2: a World Series this year. I talked about this with
- 24:31Speaker 2: the Guardians the other day. As great as their pitching is,
- 24:34Speaker 2: that offense is not getting through an entire tournament. So
- 24:36Speaker 2: just to win that game of the ninth, that's true.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Although I like that offense better. That's a pretty good offense.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:44Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Diamondbacks for a moment. They
- 24:47Speaker 2: now are going to start Zach Allen over the weekend
- 24:51Speaker 2: against the Padres instead of an outing against Yamamoto bullpen
- 24:56Speaker 2: game tonight instead, is that the right call.
- 24:59Speaker 5: Win every game?
- 25:00Speaker 1: So what are they doing?
- 25:02Speaker 5: You're just giving up a game.
- 25:03Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 25:04Speaker 2: They only get one Gallon start, and I guess they're
- 25:06Speaker 2: gonna need one bullpen game start. In my mind, you're
- 25:09Speaker 2: saying without saying it, we're throwing tonight, like.
- 25:11Speaker 4: I mean, I would try to win boom boo, boom boom,
- 25:13Speaker 4: and then maybe Sunday if you need to be like
- 25:15Speaker 4: all hands on deck.
- 25:16Speaker 5: Boys.
- 25:17Speaker 2: Also, Gallon can save their bullpen tonight. They pitched eleven
- 25:20Speaker 2: innings last night. Not the whole bullpen I'm saying, but
- 25:23Speaker 2: like the bullpen got used.
- 25:24Speaker 4: There's no off day coming well off day at the
- 25:26Speaker 4: end of the year.
- 25:27Speaker 1: I think it's a mistake. The team's playing well too.
- 25:29Speaker 2: They almost beat the Dodgers again, and now you're just
- 25:31Speaker 2: gonna say, let's wait on Gollon. Am I wrong here?
- 25:33Speaker 2: We'll ask Boden about this too when he comes on.
- 25:35Speaker 2: But crats, am I wrong on this one? What am
- 25:37Speaker 2: I missing?
- 25:39Speaker 3: I don't know that you're right. I don't know. There's
- 25:44Speaker 3: got to be something that they're sitting there looking Okay,
- 25:48Speaker 3: we need we need to get a more favorable matchup.
- 25:51Speaker 3: I've always wondered this, like a team, a team that's
- 25:54Speaker 3: terrible in your face. Let's say you opened the season
- 25:56Speaker 3: up against Skiens, why do you gotta throw your number
- 25:58Speaker 3: one against Skiens? Schemes clearly is going to have the
- 26:02Speaker 3: better outing. Maybe you keep the team close. May you
- 26:04Speaker 3: keep the game close and you beat them after Schemes
- 26:07Speaker 3: is out. I get that part of it, But you know,
- 26:10Speaker 3: why not? Why not switch it? I think some colleges
- 26:14Speaker 3: do it. Friday night starter is usually your best starter.
- 26:16Speaker 3: But what if you have two good starters and they
- 26:19Speaker 3: face their Saturday and Sunday guys. Not saying you're kicking
- 26:22Speaker 3: the first game, not saying you're kicking tonight's game, but
- 26:26Speaker 3: you've got to try to put your chips on the
- 26:29Speaker 3: right spots and hope that it hits.
- 26:31Speaker 2: That's a five hundred mentality at a time when the
- 26:34Speaker 2: Reds need to either go probably three and one or
- 26:37Speaker 2: four and oh to win out the Diamondbacks two Diamondbacks two.
- 26:41Speaker 4: Wanter Green pitch well last night, I mean gave up two.
- 26:43Speaker 1: But that's my point. You want Hunter Green in that
- 26:45Speaker 1: outing because then they ended up tying it up.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Yeah, the game to win the game.
- 26:48Speaker 4: Same with the Diamondbacks and you just because y'all, Moto
- 26:51Speaker 4: is not going to pitch nine innings tonight.
- 26:53Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks love they hit the Dodgers always.
- 26:56Speaker 4: But he's not gonna pick. He might go five, maybe five.
- 26:59Speaker 4: They're gonna get him ready for the Wildcard. It's on Tuesday,
- 27:02Speaker 4: So so why would you not try to hold the
- 27:04Speaker 4: Dodgers down as best you can and then get to
- 27:07Speaker 4: the bullpen because we all know how good the bullpen's been.
- 27:09Speaker 4: Because guess who ain't coming out of the bullpen to night.
- 27:11Speaker 4: Kersh I ain't coming out of the bullpen tonight. Sazaki
- 27:13Speaker 4: ain't coming out of the bullpen tonight because they're haven't done.
- 27:16Speaker 5: Back to back, so they're not. There's no way Dave
- 27:18Speaker 5: Roberts's gonna go to curs now.
- 27:19Speaker 4: Curser probably say he'd throw, but he's not gonna go
- 27:21Speaker 4: to curse and say, curse man, we need you to
- 27:22Speaker 4: throw you an inning night. Sazaki, you've been hurt all year.
- 27:25Speaker 4: Let's let's go back to backs right now. Like, no,
- 27:27Speaker 4: it's not gonna happen. This is this is if you're
- 27:30Speaker 4: I don't know to me, this is a chance you
- 27:32Speaker 4: worry about today and tomorrow's for another day.
- 27:34Speaker 5: You try.
- 27:34Speaker 4: You gotta try to win every game because you're not
- 27:36Speaker 4: in a spot where you can afford to lose any games.
- 27:39Speaker 4: You have to try to win every game.
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- 28:43Speaker 2: Rockies have the worst run differential of the modern era
- 28:47Speaker 2: by far, and they're going to finish it with it
- 28:49Speaker 2: that way. I found another one too that I thought
- 28:51Speaker 2: was even crazier. Kyle Body, who's one of the Drive
- 28:54Speaker 2: Line guys, tweeted that last time you checked, and this
- 28:56Speaker 2: is true, they looked it up. They have a team
- 28:58Speaker 2: negative fangrafts war So he said, theoretically that means the
- 29:03Speaker 2: team's worse than a full team of freely available minimum
- 29:06Speaker 2: salary triple A players according to front offices and how
- 29:10Speaker 2: they evaluate. I'm just telling you that's what the numbers.
- 29:14Speaker 4: That's why wars times. I mean, these guys weren't there.
- 29:19Speaker 4: I mean, I know they're the Rockies, but they're not
- 29:22Speaker 4: worse than the White Sox were last year and run
- 29:24Speaker 4: diff French. It doesn't matter, Scott.
- 29:26Speaker 1: Maybe they are worse.
- 29:27Speaker 5: They're not though according to the record.
- 29:31Speaker 3: Per fall. But yeah, you have this, you have.
- 29:38Speaker 1: History manager, and maybe History sorry about it. They did,
- 29:42Speaker 1: but I mean to break this.
- 29:44Speaker 3: This is a dubious record, and why the heck wasn't
- 29:47Speaker 3: I putting more run lines on on the against the Rockies.
- 29:52Speaker 1: They caught up in the beginning of the year.
- 29:53Speaker 2: It was a cash cow, but it did catch up
- 29:56Speaker 2: where eventually, eventually you had to do uh to even
- 30:00Speaker 2: get close to even money, you had to do two
- 30:02Speaker 2: and a half, which then starts to get tough quick
- 30:06Speaker 2: pop quiz with like thirty seconds to go, and then
- 30:08Speaker 2: we're going to come back and talk to Boden. Just
- 30:10Speaker 2: for everyone watching at home, who's the Rockies manager right now?
- 30:15Speaker 1: Hey? See this quote from John Schneider. He was bringing
- 30:18Speaker 1: it postgame.
- 30:19Speaker 2: A lot of the Beat writers were like, this is
- 30:21Speaker 2: a different John Schneider after this game because he's like, quote,
- 30:25Speaker 2: it feels like the sky's falling right now, and it's
- 30:27Speaker 2: fucking not.
- 30:28Speaker 1: We've got ninety wins, we're in the playoffs, and if
- 30:31Speaker 1: the season end today, we're winning the Ale East.
- 30:33Speaker 2: I want them to come in and not press I
- 30:34Speaker 2: want them to play confident. He was also saying that
- 30:36Speaker 2: his players are totally wrong for freaking out about the
- 30:39Speaker 2: ompstig get and way too caught up in that.
- 30:40Speaker 1: He was very vocal about that too.
- 30:43Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like a guy that's a little nervous
- 30:46Speaker 4: about not winning the division, but he wants to show
- 30:48Speaker 4: everybody that he is and nervous even though keep down,
- 30:51Speaker 4: we all know that he is.
- 30:52Speaker 5: I mean, Kratzo isn't better than anybody.
- 30:53Speaker 4: But to me this comes across is if he hasn't
- 30:55Speaker 4: been like this the whole year, and all of a
- 30:57Speaker 4: sudden we're getting shots fired, You're like, WHOA.
- 31:00Speaker 2: But can I make the case that I think the
- 31:02Speaker 2: players they're looking like they're freaking out at the arms
- 31:07Speaker 2: about every like they look very animated, like just play
- 31:09Speaker 2: your game.
- 31:10Speaker 1: You guys are good.
- 31:11Speaker 2: They are good, and even if you're having a rough week,
- 31:14Speaker 2: Kratz and the Red Sox are beating you in a
- 31:16Speaker 2: couple of games, like the Red Sox aren't playoff team,
- 31:18Speaker 2: You'll be fine.
- 31:20Speaker 3: It was very telling when George got caught mouthing they
- 31:24Speaker 3: just need to give the division to the Yankees, Like
- 31:27Speaker 3: that's not what they should be thinking about. That shouldn't
- 31:30Speaker 3: that shouldn't come out in the game because you shouldn't
- 31:32Speaker 3: be thinking about that, Like it was a candid moment.
- 31:36Speaker 3: I'm glad we got the lip reading done by John Boyd,
- 31:38Speaker 3: but I just I would say the players are freaking
- 31:43Speaker 3: out Schneid's Schneid's has had some he has some tie rates.
- 31:48Speaker 3: I think he goes, he goes on, some goes on
- 31:50Speaker 3: some tangents. So maybe this is the first time. I
- 31:53Speaker 3: don't know. But the team is panicking. But at least
- 31:56Speaker 3: they have like some kind of feeling. You watch the
- 31:59Speaker 3: Tigers and they're just like somebody's got to hit the
- 32:03Speaker 3: hit the on button. So at least they're if you're
- 32:05Speaker 3: feeling something, at least it's you know, you don't want
- 32:08Speaker 3: a panic, but they are they glad to go.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Man Yet he.
- 32:14Speaker 4: Didn't draw line, but he did draw line. I don't
- 32:17Speaker 4: know they needed him to go.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Was that a fair ejection.
- 32:22Speaker 4: I don't know what was said. I don't know what
- 32:24Speaker 4: he said. They didn't really show what he said. But
- 32:27Speaker 4: anytime you take your bat and you yeah, you kind
- 32:30Speaker 4: of do the tappy tap lining line, you're you're gonna
- 32:34Speaker 4: get heap.
- 32:35Speaker 1: I think that's soft.
- 32:37Speaker 3: No, you can't. You can't touch the dirt. At first,
- 32:41Speaker 3: he looked at the dirt and then he touched it.
- 32:44Speaker 3: You just can't you can't shut I mean that's like
- 32:46Speaker 3: that's like saying.
- 32:46Speaker 2: You missed it, okay. But I can just be like, hey, glad,
- 32:50Speaker 2: he'e sorry. I think you're wrong. I got the call
- 32:52Speaker 2: right now, go back to the dugout and we're good.
- 32:54Speaker 2: If I didn't like, go up in his face and.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Say they're so soft.
- 33:00Speaker 4: The Tigers have a fourteen game lead.
- 33:03Speaker 5: Fourteen games. They're in the playoffs.
- 33:05Speaker 3: That's it.
- 33:05Speaker 5: You can put them in the playoffs.
- 33:06Speaker 1: Are you add on the Guardians?
- 33:08Speaker 4: There are four games out of a wildcard behind one, two, three,
- 33:11Speaker 4: four or five five teams.
- 33:13Speaker 5: They're twelve and a half behind the Tigers. They're not
- 33:16Speaker 5: catching the Tigers this year.
- 33:18Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't add they're good. I don't think they're great.
- 33:21Speaker 1: Tigers are really solid. I could he get close, maybe,
- 33:23Speaker 1: but I don't see it.
- 33:24Speaker 4: Do we think one of these other teams can jump
- 33:26Speaker 4: a ten game winning streak even though they haven't done
- 33:28Speaker 4: it all year?
- 33:28Speaker 1: Guardians, that's that's a little bit of a stretch. Central
- 33:33Speaker 1: is done.
- 33:38Speaker 3: That's what he's what he said. That's what he said.
- 33:42Speaker 1: That's what he said. That's what we said.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Some of those clips are really old because I know
- 33:49Speaker 2: where those backdrops are from. Some of those clips are
- 33:51Speaker 2: from July or before June.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, here's the deal.
- 33:57Speaker 4: This is an all time historic collapse of and do
- 34:02Speaker 4: you know what, there's a part of us. It's still
- 34:04Speaker 4: right because I said that Tigers are going to be
- 34:06Speaker 4: in the playoffs, but I didn't say they were gonna
- 34:08Speaker 4: win the Al Central. In that clip, the Tigers are
- 34:11Speaker 4: still in the playoffs, but they're not maybe gonna win.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Yeah, Tigers are should get in because the Astros can't
- 34:18Speaker 2: win anymore.
- 34:19Speaker 4: Also, but the fact that the Guardians control their own destiny. No,
- 34:23Speaker 4: I mean, if the Guardians win today, it's over because
- 34:26Speaker 4: they're basically three up with three to play, correct, So
- 34:30Speaker 4: I'm never I mean they've won what they went seven thirteen,
- 34:33Speaker 4: seventeen to.
- 34:33Speaker 1: Two their last nineteen games, something like that.
- 34:36Speaker 5: Nobody had this coming.
- 34:38Speaker 4: People in the Guardian's front office had this come now,
- 34:40Speaker 4: Not even Stephen Vote had this.
- 34:42Speaker 2: M I do point to that one interview I listened to,
- 34:45Speaker 2: I think it was Santinetti. He's like, we're going to
- 34:47Speaker 2: be a second half team, I'm telling you. Even though
- 34:49Speaker 2: then they traded away he has to say that.
- 34:52Speaker 4: I mean, the guys in Oakland say that every year
- 34:54Speaker 4: too a Sacramento and the second half team we lose.
- 34:56Speaker 4: We win twenty games, the first half we went fifty eight,
- 34:58Speaker 4: and the second half.
- 34:59Speaker 2: He means second half of the decade when they're in Vegas. Oh,
- 35:03Speaker 2: that's what he means when he says that.
- 35:05Speaker 1: Anyways, what did you say? We didn't hear you as.
- 35:08Speaker 3: Much because I'm not wrong. I mean, I wasn't wrong.
- 35:13Speaker 3: I would have been. Frankie would have put me in there.
- 35:15Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna let you guys dig out of
- 35:18Speaker 3: the hole that you put. It that you put the
- 35:20Speaker 3: my past organization, the Cleveland Guardians. How can you How
- 35:25Speaker 3: can you guys forget about these guys? They fight, they
- 35:28Speaker 3: claw My friend Steven Vote, How could you guys do
- 35:33Speaker 3: this to them? Never forget that offense?
- 35:38Speaker 2: Man, that makes me forget a lot of Yeah.
- 35:41Speaker 3: I mean, if.
- 35:43Speaker 4: School, if school wouldn't try and snap the ball between
- 35:45Speaker 4: his legs, which is I mean, he's just he's an
- 35:49Speaker 4: unbelievably good pictures. You don't want to say you again,
- 35:51Speaker 4: but I don't know what There's only one guy, Mark Burley,
- 35:53Speaker 4: that can do that Okay, so let's not ever try
- 35:56Speaker 4: that again.
- 35:56Speaker 1: That was.
- 35:59Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean last night and then last night.
- 36:02Speaker 4: And the thing about the Guardians is their starting pitchers
- 36:04Speaker 4: just keep going six or seven and he's under two
- 36:06Speaker 4: or less two or less, six or seven, two or less,
- 36:08Speaker 4: two or less. And then when they get to Gaddis
- 36:10Speaker 4: and Saborski and Kate Smith and everybody else they bringing
- 36:14Speaker 4: from the back of no one scores on him.
- 36:16Speaker 1: No, it's nasty.
- 36:17Speaker 5: It's good stuff. Man, it's good.
- 36:19Speaker 4: It's fun to watch, it's crazy to watch. But I
- 36:21Speaker 4: can't believe that where we're at. I just can't believe
- 36:26Speaker 4: where we're at.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Joserez is so freaking good. He came through again last night.
- 36:32Speaker 5: And then the defense is so good.
- 36:34Speaker 2: Their defense is good. And Stephen Kwan is so valuable
- 36:38Speaker 2: in these moments. That's my thing. I get it, like
- 36:41Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with players that make contact, but Stephen Kuan's
- 36:44Speaker 2: on another planet from a rise even because he's an
- 36:46Speaker 2: all around player and I just remember him.
- 36:47Speaker 1: From the postseason last year. It's like looking for a knock.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Kwan's gonna make contact, little Blue Pier, and he's doing
- 36:53Speaker 2: it again.
- 36:54Speaker 1: He did it yesterday. The home run Valeria, George Leia
- 36:57Speaker 1: the rookie.
- 36:58Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the tweet from Dan Clark about four
- 37:03Speaker 2: players with fifty plus home run seasons. First time since
- 37:06Speaker 2: two thousand and one four players have hit fifty plus
- 37:08Speaker 2: in the same season. Back in one, it was Bond, Sosa, Gonzales,
- 37:11Speaker 2: and Rodriguez. Now I got Raley, Schwarber, Otani and Judge superstars.
- 37:17Speaker 2: You know what the crazy thing is too. I looked
- 37:22Speaker 2: at some home run leaders for teams, like the Red's
- 37:25Speaker 2: home run leader I think is Ellie with like twenty one.
- 37:27Speaker 2: There's like five six teams that have guys who have
- 37:29Speaker 2: like twenty homers ish and they're leading their team White.
- 37:33Speaker 5: Sox Pirates don't have anybody with a lot.
- 37:36Speaker 1: No, they were all on that list. I was looking.
- 37:39Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, it's not like you look across the board.
- 37:42Speaker 2: It's like, oh, powers up balls, juice.
- 37:48Speaker 5: Gunner.
- 37:50Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the twenties. Also, home run Derby.
- 37:54Speaker 5: Just look at the Blue Jays. They don't have a
- 37:55Speaker 5: lot of homers.
- 37:56Speaker 1: No, that's true. That's true.
- 37:59Speaker 2: Also, people were saying, hey, home run Derby has the
- 38:03Speaker 2: home run Derby swing for cal Raley and Junior Camonaro.
- 38:06Speaker 1: Can we stop with that crap narrative just.
- 38:10Speaker 5: So people have the narrative they want to hear.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Yeah, fun season for power crafts.
- 38:15Speaker 5: Cardinals have no power someone's in the chat.
- 38:17Speaker 2: Yep, that's a good point. That's a good point.
- 38:22Speaker 3: I love those names that are on that tweet though,
- 38:25Speaker 3: the four that were on the tweet. Put them, put
- 38:28Speaker 3: them up against Judge, Otani, Schwarber, and cal just saying
- 38:36Speaker 3: clean clean.
- 38:38Speaker 1: Yeah, different times, different times.
- 38:41Speaker 2: Everybody loves clean fifty plus, Yeah, everyone loves homers.
- 38:45Speaker 4: But okay, I'm gonna say this, and I ain't accusing
- 38:48Speaker 4: anybody of nothing, but.
- 38:50Speaker 5: Let's stop with that. But what are you just both
- 38:54Speaker 5: just said, let's just stop.
- 38:56Speaker 4: I'm not saying anybody's doing anything. I don't want anyone
- 38:58Speaker 4: to think that. But let's the clean, knock clean, that's
- 39:01Speaker 4: the stuff.
- 39:02Speaker 1: Okay. Can we agree it was the steroid era.
- 39:04Speaker 5: It was the steroid as the arguing that.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Okay, so that's that's it. Let's go there at least.
- 39:09Speaker 4: But I mean, the guys in that list, there was
- 39:12Speaker 4: no testing back then, So how do we know. Can't
- 39:14Speaker 4: you can't just say that there's people in the Hall
- 39:16Speaker 4: of Fame that did it.
- 39:18Speaker 1: No doubt. Let's slap crats. Hats go.
- 39:36Speaker 3: Come on. I was still in college. The last time
- 39:38Speaker 3: they they made they won. They won the West College College.
- 39:48Speaker 1: I would love to know.
- 39:48Speaker 5: Crats in college.
- 39:52Speaker 4: Against that team and one hundred and sixteen wins the
- 39:55Speaker 4: record one of the craziest things teams I've ever seen.
- 39:59Speaker 4: At one point, we had like a six top the
- 40:00Speaker 4: lead against them. We're like, oh, we're gonna win. Actually,
- 40:03Speaker 4: you know, it's six six and we're hanging We end
- 40:04Speaker 4: up winning, but it was like hanging on for dear
- 40:06Speaker 4: life is there?
- 40:07Speaker 5: Just that lineup was sick.
- 40:09Speaker 4: Edgar Olarude Boon, Dan Wilson was the catcher each your row,
- 40:14Speaker 4: Mike cam or cam Rome. It was a freaking sick
- 40:18Speaker 4: Evans was.
- 40:19Speaker 5: On that team.
- 40:19Speaker 1: Was the d S or CS where they lost the
- 40:22Speaker 1: CS the Yankees.
- 40:25Speaker 2: They're like, it's all right, we're gonna be back every year.
- 40:27Speaker 2: That's what every team always says winning window.
- 40:29Speaker 1: We'll be back every year.
- 40:31Speaker 3: Was the CS to the Yankees, who they beat in
- 40:33Speaker 3: the DS.
- 40:34Speaker 4: Do you know, uh, Guardians, maybe Indians, White Sox. No,
- 40:44Speaker 4: the White Sox weren't in that year. The Indians won
- 40:47Speaker 4: the division that year because I was in the Central
- 40:49Speaker 4: Red Sox.
- 40:50Speaker 1: Maybe I think Cleveland. I mean they won the Central.
- 40:53Speaker 4: Beliven if I know won the Central because we lost.
- 40:55Speaker 2: Them, right right, Guys asked me these questions right at
- 41:01Speaker 2: the buzzer here, I think Cleveland.
- 41:04Speaker 1: Mariners two three two.
- 41:09Speaker 3: The mats are plus one. Mist the playoffs and lock it.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Into a Yank Days Yankees go days.
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