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Track cast the Galaxy's most Unpredictable Star Trick podcast. There he is, Hey,
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like you heart started me? Yeah? Who do you? Who do
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you think you think I'm Chad or something? Listen to me. You you
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a heart start Chad? You a heart start? Scott? You heart start?
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Gents, you do not heart start me? Do you understand? Holy
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cat, look what happens. He's on the bottom now, things just changed
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things. Just hold on, we can fix that the whole. Oh damn,
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I don't even have my son glasses on. It's like my signature thing.
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It is sunglasses. Oh my god, that's right? Right? What's
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up? Guys? Going on? How's it going? How's it going?
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I'm I'm afraid to log into Paramount plus. I don't know what it's gonna
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say. Where damn? What you should mention that? Monny? You should
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mention that. Jad. Do we want to explain this or do you just
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show it? Just show it? There we go, Well, hit done,
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so we can see the actual hit. You get the thing up.
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There you go, there you go. I'm now a lower decker over on
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nice? How did that? How does that even happen? The fight?
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I don't know. Scott's just in there somehow. I don't know, did
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Scott Did Scott hack the paramount network? Maybe? Maybe you know what they
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say, uh, you know if hackers ken Scott Ken, Right, that's
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the that's that's that's the seven these they've been saying that the edges of the
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quarter off where it's not ridged and it just comes right back out even though
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it takes it and you can still dieal that path up and they'll take me
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with the kazoo right to make long distance calls. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
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that's right. That's what that's what they used to do back in the
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days. Everyone doing good, tired good, I'm tired, Yeah, I'm
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tired. It was a long week. It was a busy week. There's
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a busy week ahead of me. There's a busy week the week after that.
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I only got to watch. How did Scott get I don't know,
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we don't know, we don't know, we don't know. He hacked,
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he hacked in somehow he was like this typing yep, yep, yeah,
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actually like that like that cat, Yes, yeah, Scott washed the tutorial
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and hacking on YouTube, because that's how Scott learns everything. And he realized
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that our password was one, two, three four, that's right, which
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coincidentally is the same combination on my luggage. Well, you've got a much
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stronger password now of password, yeah one password, it's password one because it's
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the number one password. Yes. And they say, they say to make
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a strong password, you need letters and numbers. So we replaced the O
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with a zero and password and there you get. Yeah. Oh my lord,
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oh man. Yeah, so I only watched the show once this week,
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so I feel off my uh, I feel off my game, Like
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I don't want like to sit here right now and tell you what the episode
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was about. I would struggle. I would probably MR with this like Solin,
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like, hey, what's going on? Oh my lord voice? Yeah,
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well, when you talk as much as I have in the last week
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at these at the great shows like this, I mean, everything dropped an
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octave. Yeah, everything dropped an octave. And are you gonna quite over
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it? Are you gonna tell us about your sweaty balls? No? You
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know? Do you know that reference? I do time Folk Music Hour?
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That is a great that is a great skit though, Oh March, I'm
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really I'm really liking these balls. Good morning, Daniel Dan Scott. Oops,
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I mean Chad, you know what this You know what this means?
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Uh? Scott needs to Uh already there is I'm too tired. Hit me.
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You know what this means? He's got to come to Long Island.
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Oh for sure, it's expected, it's expected. If if he doesn't,
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yeah yeah, And I'll let the I'll let the listeners decide. You know
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who they think I'm talking about when I say he like a chat Scott,
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I don't know really tell at this point. A little part of me,
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A little little part of me that wonders, Okay, how serious are these
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two? Am I really? No? No, no, no, no,
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no no, You're irreplaceable. That's right. I can't keep him wondering
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secret better than I like when when Scott does like this whole bit like yeah,
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yeah, yea looking the lips. Yeah he's waiting. Yeah, well
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we get perfect wolf put that on. Put that one. Yeah, well
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get to put the put wolves up that that's perfect. Okay, Track Long
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Island to the Wrath of the con Yeah. I can't wait till we get
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to part four with the one with the whales. Yeah no, is it
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just me? Or in the opener of lower Decks? Has that whale?
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Uh? Signal ship there from from that movie? Ever? Has that always
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been there? Or did I? No? No, no, no.
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Each now each season they make that scene more intricate, they add, yeah,
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they added yes, yea, yeah I thought so. I thought so.
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Yeah, it's what they do. Yeah, pretty funny. Yeah.
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Ye. All right, Well we get to the news. Get to the
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news, right, all right, So our first news story comes up from
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movie dot com. And for those of you who live on the East coast,
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uh, the New York City Comic Con is just around the corner October
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twelveth through the fifteenth. Oh no, so did it just happen? Did
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I just miss it? When? Would you say? It was the twelve
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September through the October? Sorry, yeah, you said October, And I'm
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like, what, No, it's no, no, no, we're in
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September. Okay, yeah, we are in September. That's right. Time
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is a flat circle. It's ruined me. Time. It's not real.
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It's just the concept, that's right. That's right, we're all just in
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the matrix. No. So, apparently they're gonna have a big event at
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Paramount will be there at the comic Con, and they're gonna have a big
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panel. They are are promising a Star Trek universe presentation, and they are
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saying that they are going to reveal have exciting reveals and surprises whatever that means.
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That's an exciting reveal, right there, Dan's Mike who blew up?
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I know Legacy leg see leg see sorry? I mean, would they do
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it there? I don't know. They don't know what they're doing. They
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don't know what they're doing, so would they do it there? I don't
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know. They don't have their own they're not they're gonna do their own cons
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and now they're not doing that. I mean, yeah, I could see
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it because they are just so thirsty for your for your common people to be
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into Star Trek and not like they don't really care about the hardcore fans.
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It seems like, you know, everybody wants it's no, it's it's I
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mean, you're right, but you're I don't think they look at it as
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they don't care about the hardcore fans. They want the hard They need the
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hardcore fans. They need the bass right right. They need to speak to
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the base, They need to give the basse what they want, but they
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have to bring in those independence or those of the other that's right of the
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star wars ilk. Yeah, yeah, well they have this party they need,
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that's correct. So I mean they still need to cater to them,
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though they still otherwise they'll they'll wind up getting too much negative. It only
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takes this is this is one of the problems with the society nowadays. It
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only takes where our culture, I'll put it that way, in the United
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States, because it's not like you said, it's just the culture in the
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United States. It only takes them one mistake to get fifty really really negative
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people online, and those fifty people influenced thousands of people, right, just
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one little comment, one little mistake. It takes a very small number of
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people to really put a huge negative spin that the average person sees and then
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thinks, well, I'm not going to spend time on that, and not
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realizing that it's just a handful of people who started all of that, and
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who who maybe you are super passionate about it, right, or maybe even
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have the wrong idea, or just should just shut up, or just one
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person toots exactly, no, you're right, you're right. And the perfect
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example is there's nothing wrong with that Han Solo movie. Yeah, no,
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good movie. It's a good movie. And and of the Disney produced movies,
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that's the one I've rewatched the most. Oh really, I go to
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Drugue one, but that's me. I've that's that's second. Yeah, they're
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both good, they're both good. Yeah. I could really watch and Or
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All over again because of how much I love that, and because every time
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I watch anything with Star Wars anymore, I can't recall where the hell this
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happens versus the other one, versus this one versus that one. Yeah,
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I have no idea. And what's great about that is I actually don't care.
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So, you know, watching a Shoku and I'm like, I have
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no idea where this happens with with everything else, but it's freaking cool and
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I'm enjoying it, and so that's just it, all right. So yeah,
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So we'll see what happens at New York City Comic Con about a month.
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It should be interesting one way or the other. Because you've got their
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writer strikes still going on. You've got all this stuff that's delaying things.
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They can't really I mean, they can market whatever they want, but they
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can't make anything. So how does that work? I read the funniest thing
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about the writer's strike going on right now. Yeah. So, Warner Brothers
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said that they have lost about five hundred million dollars because of the writers strike
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in lost profits because they don't have actors to go out and promote things.
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No no, no, They've saved five hundred million dollars in what would have
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been lost revenue from ship No no, no said lost profits. Oh I
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know, I'm just making jo Yeah, but what's really funny is if they
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met all of the demands of the actors and the writers right now, it
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would cost the entire industry, so not just Warner Brothers, about four hundred
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million dollars. So literally they could have paid for this whole thing just out
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of their losses. How could you even how could you even say that,
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because in order to calculate that figure, you would have to calculate revenue in
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perpetuity until the end of time. There's talking about the minimums for what people
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want right now. Okay, but what timeframe are you using over the ten
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years? Okay, so ten years yeah so, but yeah, in twenty
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years, it'll be twice that. In thirty years, it'll be three times
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that in forty years. The thing, it's the principle of the thing.
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If you don't like your job and you don't like the paige, if you're
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getting and you think you're being treated unfair, go find a different job.
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But if every industry is that way, then what are you gonna do?
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Start Nobody likes their jobs or do something. You see so many opportunities to
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make money in the common in today's society, whether it's the United States,
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I don't care where you're at, there are so many. Unless you're you
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know, born in a third world country, you don't have internet access access.
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You know, if some of those kinds of things, I can understand
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it. But if you're burning born in the first world country unites, this
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is what we're talking about. There are so many opportunities to make money.
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There are so many ways to get ahead. It's boundless, it's endless.
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If you're not making the kind of money you think you should be making,
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then you're doing something wrong. You know, you can complain about it all
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you want, but you're doing something wrong. It's too easy. Yeah,
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I think we would disagree about this one chance. That's okay, that's okay
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as usual. I'm in the middle. Yeah, let's let's move on.
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To the next story, have him screen Rant the Next Generation, the next
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Star Trek, the Next Generation, Jonathan Franks dream Time for Star Trek Legacy.
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It's written very clunky, so apparently I can't even understand what what the
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headline is. I don't know, but he's talking about He's talking about Jonathan
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Franks and I can't wait. I can't wait until he writes something and he
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collaborates with somebody named Beans, because we'll have this new story by Franks and
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Beans, Franks and Beans. I can't wait Jonathan Frey for those who who
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don't get the joke, but go ahead, Danny. Yeah, So he
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was talking about Star Drink Legacy and what he plans to do with it if
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it ever comes to fruition. So apparently they want to do what we've seen
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in the in the like teaser and Bricard season three, where it's all the
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new class, basically all the kids of the next generation. But he says
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ideally he would like Ryker to be in there as some sort of like admiral
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still in surfleet that they check in with from time to time. And then
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he thought about it for a little bit and joked around and said, well
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he could be Charlie and they could be his angels, and they come and
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they checked in with them all. So he's he's not dumb. Yeah,
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he's he's not dumb. He knows that he's a draw as a director,
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but he's an even bigger draw if he appears on screen. So he could
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lock up so many directors gigs on that show. I mean, he could
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probably direct the whole season if he agreed to be in every other episode.
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Yeah, yes, he could. Yeah. And our last news story comes
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to us from fan cited uh Star Trek Voyagers ensign Harry Kim will finally get
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a promotion. That's a lie. Yeah, So for those of you who
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play Star Trek Online, they're coming out with the new I don't know campaign
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version whatever, Star Trek Online Incursion. It's the free to play MMO RPG.
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And in that we are going to see Captain Harry Kim. What he's
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going from Benson straight to captain? Yeah? Yeah, So when this campaign
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starts up, but they just released the launch trailer not too long ago.
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I'll put it in the show notes for people to check out. But yeah,
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we'll get Captain Harry Kim. Okay, so cool, I feel like
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it's I've tried to play that game so many times and I just can't.
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I just can't get into it. It's just about that game. It's just
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not I was huge into it, like ten years ago. Yeah, chas
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Changeling, not really. Harry. Yeah, wasn't there a new Harry?
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Like didn't they lose the old one? He died and then they brought another
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one something like that. I don't know, it's been a while. Yeah,
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it's been a while. Yeah, there was there was something where the
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whole ship was duplicated. Yeah, and and and Naomi Wildman died and Harry
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died. So the Harry and Naomi from the the duplicated ship came over and
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yeah, yeah something something something something something some bullshit. So does that mean?
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Wow? Wow, it's very rare. We get cursing from Daniels right
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on the Family Show. We're over. I'm good. Oh my god,
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if if somebody, if somebody gets Daniel Jonathan Frakes cameo video where where he
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refers to himself as Jonathan Franks. Oh man, great, but that would
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that cost extra or it's just him berating me that it's not Franks. Oh,
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that would be amazing Yeah, that would be amazing. Yeah, yeah,
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just that line right there, that's worth the two cameo Ki kim Vics,
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Kim Vas who is he paired with? That? Is that a three?
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Is that a three way? Two? Vix and Kim is kim Vics.
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I don't know what he means. Kim Vics sounds like something very itchy
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and you need to see a doctor. No, no, yes, it
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sounds like what you get for the hitching. Ask your doctor about him Vics.
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Patients shouldn't take him vics if they made from anxiety. Yeah, that's
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good, that's good. That's good. Wow, all right, See,
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I do have a purpose on the show. Was right there. That's the
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only reason I'm here. I had those one liners every fifth show. Scott's
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looking through the one ends. That's right, all right, Well that's all
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the news stories. Should we get to the maiden topic? Yeah? Go
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for it? Fell now all right. So we had a new episode of
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Lower Decks season four, episode three, in the Cradle of is it Vexon?
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I read it? I don't know. I just have got Vetlan in
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my head. That's probably wrong. Yeah, And the Cradle Vultron and the
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Crater Old Vultron yeah, the five Lions. Yeah, crossover we all wanted
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here was there was five of those canisters. There's five five five of those
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canisters. So it is it's all reference to Vultron. The whole thing is
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absolutely uh the logline is very simple. Boimler leads his first away mission on
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an alien megastructure. Okay, yeah, I think this is the first time
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we've ever heard of there being a ring world like this in uh in Trek
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Yeah, positive. Well the one in the in the JJ films wasn't there.
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Oh no, that was just a that was just a space station inside
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of a big globe. Yeah, this whole concept of ring world was actually
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started. Oh who's that author, very very well known author, science fiction
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writer. This is probably back in the No No, It's Act they called
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ring World. I guess I'll look it up because it's gonna fuck you know.
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I've read this book several times. Larry Nevin Larry and then warning,
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I'm sorry, go ahead. And none of the idea for the ring worlds
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in Halo all came from this as well. So anyway, way back when
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they did one in the Book of Boba fet in the in the Mandalorian two
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point five episodes. Remember those those weird episodes, those two warning nerd alert,
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nerd alert. Okay, yeah, they called decided to use it.
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Yeah yeah, I don't remember there being a ring world like this in Mandalorian.
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It wasn't a Mandalorian. It was in the Book of bat in those
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two in those two episodes, or one episode that was centered around Mando that
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felt like I didn't feel like the Book of boa Fet. It felt like
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Manilarn season two point five, right, right, Yeah, I don't recall
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that. I don't recall much about Bobo Fette other than when something gonna,
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I remember be very bored with it until Mandeau showed up. Yeah yeah,
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yeah, Well, I mean I've said this before. They did him dirty,
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and they gave they gave his whole stick to another guy wearing the same
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helmet as him. Yeah yeah. Then when it came time to do something
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with him, they had to do something different and it just didn't work.
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Yeah. Yeah. So so I'm guessing we didn't like this episode as much
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because we're not talking about it. It is, okay, there's I mean,
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there wasn't any of any part of this episode where I laughed and thought
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it was hilarious. I mean, I just thought it was the whole setup
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was stupid. You're gonna send the captain down to do repairs to an ancient
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computer that's been around with this kind of planet. I mean, seriously,
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he should have been the chief engineer, should have been down there right off
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the bat, and she's just poking around carelessly on stuff. It's just it's
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just kind of silly. It's a little too much, which is the whole
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show is silly. Obviously that's fine, but it's just a little too out
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of I don't know, it's almost out of her character honestly to be like
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that. You know, one, it's supposed to be the lower decks,
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right, like, she's not supposed to be in the middle of stuff all
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the time. Well even that, it's just it's out of character for her
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to try to just say I'm going to go and do it. Yeah,
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exactly. They were making fun of Windows updates. I know, it just
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out of character for her to be the one to do it along with Ransom.
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I did like the part though, where he's looking at the two sets
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of statues and he's like, these are horrible. Those are our best works.
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I guess there hasn't been a bad episode of Lower Decks in my opinion,
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but this is the weakest one yet. Yeah, i'd probably, I'd
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probably agree. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's a good way to word
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it. Weak as opposed to bad. It's it's a little weak and Boimler
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not letting anybody do anything. That's that's part of the course. Yeah.
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I was gonna say that we saw the Kuala, though we didn't see the
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kuala. That was funny. That was probably the only thing that I laughed
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at us seeing the Koala. But I was like, wait, how are
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they gonna kill Boiler. They're not gonna kill Boiler. What's going on here?
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And then they see him in this room and I'm thinking, oh my
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gosh, the whole thing was a hollow deck or something, right, and
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then boom, there's the there's the Koala. Yeah that's pretty good. Yeah.
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I thought it was gonna be like some sort of leadership training thing or
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he was stuck in like a version of Ala Maraine or something. Yeah,
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yea, yeah, yeah something. When I saw the clips for the Beta's
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at gift Box thing, I thought, oh boy, we're gonna wind up
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here, and you know, lux Wana Troy's voice or something in here,
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and we're gonna we're gonna get some sort of something going on with with that,
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But they didn't. They didn't go anywhere with it. You know who
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played that gift box back in tn G whom and Shimmerman Shimmerman Yep, yeah,
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yep. They didn't get his voice for this though, did they.
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No, No, he's still he's still yeah, he still yeah, yeah,
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No, he voiced Cork last season. Right, Yeah, I'm pretty
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sure he did. Daddy was the best part, yeah, because he just
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blew through it like he knew exactly what to do. Yeah. Yeah,
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that was pretty good, And of course all the characters in they were getting
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frustrated that he's just blown through it. But the guy that was in there
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the second, not the girl, because that's obviously the girl that's that's part
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of it. But the guy that they showed was the guy who brought the
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brought the game, wasn't it. He was the game master who brought the
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game. I didn't think he was actually in the game. He was just
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the guy who brought the games, right, right, But the reference the
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Easter Egg needed him to be there. Yeah, I guess that's true.
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Yeah, this guy here, he's yeah, they paged, they pegged him
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perfectly, They pegged him perfectly for for being, you know, trying to
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pull one over on him. And you know, he reminds me of Frasier
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Crane. Well whatever, I was like, not Frasier, but Niles.
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It's the forehead. Yeah, yeah, he he reminded me of Niles the
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brother. Oh I can see that. Yeah, which, there's a new
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Frasier coming out. I guess there hasn't already come out her, Yeah,
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I guess. Yeah, I guess Niles isn't in it from what I heard.
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Yeah, because it's just Frasier or something. Who just put up the
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song Wolf? Yeah he needs a NERD alert. Yeah, holy cow warning
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warning, nerd alert, nerd alert. Right, take it, take it,
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Alam Morraine. Count to four, Alam Morraine, then three more Alam
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Rain. If you can't see Ala Morraine, you'll come with me. Very
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good Wolf, that's right. Yeah yeah, but yeah, that dude Frasier
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Crane right there. Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty funny though, the
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whole setup. I wish they would have pulled that on him. Maybe they'll
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do that again, where they'll pull something on him. I'd like to see
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that. Yeah, they've got to, They've got to. But yeah,
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this season, I mean, the Moopsie is still people are going nuts.
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I cannot tell you how many like fan accounts they've made their own Moopsie stuffed
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animals at home already. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that thing is
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sure. Someone's got a three D print of Moopsie out there somewhere for Oh
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yeah, like Cisco. Yeah no, how does how does Cisco sing it?
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Like Cisco? How does he sing it? Is it just gonna be
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like like that come to four? Oh yeah, yeah, all of a
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sudden we should get thank you. I feel like a Moosie would be a
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great neck pillow for like the plane, for the plane. Yeah yeah,
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it's got that great shape for that. I see all these people when I
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get on planes, at those things, and I just I don't know,
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I don't understand. I don't understand. I fall asleep. Yeah, I
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mean, I mean, I get it, but I don't get it.
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It looks so stupid. I couldn't I couldn't bring myself to do it.
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But it's the human version of the Conder's shame. Yeah, pretty much,
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yeah, pretty much. And I mean I fall asleep on almost every flight
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at least for twenty thirty minutes. I can't help it. Like getting on
27:26
plane is like Lalla by time for me, I'm out gold. I can
27:30
fall asleep on every plane. But I've never used one of those things,
27:34
not once. That's true. I need I need my bones. Please don't
27:37
take my bones. See now that's what we should talk about, is the
27:45
very very short track. Yeah, these are awful. I don't understand how.
27:52
Okay, imagine imagine for a moment. Okay, you're at Paramount.
27:56
Isn't this how the Twilight Zone starts? Imagine? Yeah, imagine if you
28:00
will. Imagine if you will. You're sitting down to write this thing.
28:04
Huh, and you write it and you know it's the worst thing you've ever
28:08
made ever, but you think it's hilarious to see you've gotten one key part
28:14
of that writing. No one can write it. Yeah, no, no,
28:17
no, no no. You started with sit down and you're gonna write.
28:19
You forgot you sit down, You take all your drugs and you start
28:23
writing. No. But I mean these feel like someone sat down and wrote
28:27
one of these as a joke, knowing full well no one would ever produce
28:32
it, and then he handed it to somebody and they just took it and
28:34
made it and thought this is horrible, but then handed it off to somebody
28:37
else who then did like the post editing and thought this is horrible, and
28:41
then handed it off to somebody else and they did the voiceover sport and it's
28:45
all They all said, this is horrible, but they kept pushing it,
28:48
and finally some exact up top watched it and said this is the worst thing
28:52
ever, but didn't do anything about it. Like how in the world can
28:56
anybody there have put that last one out? So first one behind this one
29:02
is even worse. Yeah, so the guy behind this has done a lot
29:03
of like adult Swim, especially Aquitine Hunger Force back in the day, I
29:08
loved Aquitine, So like he should go make a triumph the insult dog cartoon
29:15
then, like this isn't what this is ridiculous. Yeah, this very much
29:21
fits in the aquitine camp, like it is that, But I don't know
29:25
if that's a good pair would start And I'm all for that kind of humor.
29:27
I mean, Rick and Morty is my favorite cartoon of all time,
29:30
Like you know, it's it's fantastic. I love Rick and Morty. I
29:33
mean hell, I hit. My characters in other games are all named after
29:37
that. It's it's a it's a theme that goes into everything, a lot
29:41
of things. So yeah, but man, that just doesn't this dust doesn't
29:45
go well with it, and it's not and you could do it, don't
29:48
get me wrong, because lower Decks does a pretty good job of doing that
29:52
in some cases. You know, that little bit of dark humor, that
29:55
little bit of slapstick humor, that little bit of dirty humor, But this
29:59
isn't, and that it's just a flat out isn't. Yeah, And it's
30:02
just the Aquitine humor and the and the low and the Rick and Morty humors
30:06
a little bit different. Rick and Morty is more like more it's within within
30:11
what's going on in the story, the jokes, right, yeah, yeah,
30:14
whereas Aquitine is like completely random and gross out. So that, yeah,
30:19
but I mean that's the same thing and Rick and Morty. All of
30:22
a sudden, you have Rick Sanchez talking about David Cronenberg and everyone he refers
30:26
to everybody that turns into a slide blob as David Cronenberg's. Yeah, so
30:32
you watch very short tricks they're on YouTube. I don't know if they're reaching
30:34
there on YouTube, but they're on YouTube. Yeah, and they're horrible.
30:38
Yeah, yeah, they're on the Star trek Uh facebook or YouTube account.
30:45
What was with them having everybody from every show and every timeline in drawn in
30:52
a different cartoon style in this one? How many are there? I'm want
30:57
to make sure we're talking about the same there's three, all right, there's
31:03
just two. And the latest that I know of, in the latest one
31:07
is the one where Spok is trying to do humor and ten forward. Okay,
31:10
yeah, that's the latest one. Yeah. And so you've got Spok
31:12
drawn is like the animated series. You've got Suru drawn completely different in a
31:18
different form. Then you've got Naomi in a different not Naomi, what's your
31:22
name? Comm's officer from from Strange New Worlds. Yeah, so here,
31:32
here's a different uniform. Here's how it works. Okay, it's drawn in
31:37
the animated series style, but it's voiced. It's voiced by the voices from
31:41
Strange New Worlds. Okay, that's that's Ethan Peck's voice in that character.
31:48
Okay, So that was Ahorra in a cadet outfit, because that fits in
31:53
with Strange New Worlds and Suru. This this is you know, this is
32:01
Spock's past, so he's he's seeing Michael Burnham and Seru in whatever season two
32:08
of Discovery. They can't show TNG, they can't show Deep Space nine because
32:14
this is Spock. So the only other stuff they have to look at is
32:16
backwards, and the only thing behind that is Enterprise and Discovery. Okay.
32:22
And it's not a different animation style. It's just that that's what Spock looked
32:27
like in the animated series, so that's what he looks like in this.
32:30
No one's ever seen an animated Kelpion. And yeah, so I mean I
32:37
think I like them the best of all of us, but I don't love
32:40
them. They're okay, Yeah, they're awful. Yeah they're they're really good.
32:46
I mean, I'm gonna watch him because they're that bad, and I
32:50
want to be able to complain about them being that bad. You know,
32:52
you're gonna hate watch them, Okay, hate watch him. Yeah. I
32:54
kind of like Discovery season five, although honestly, honestly, I'm looking forward
33:00
to it because then it'll be over. Yeah, I'm with you until they
33:04
make that surprise announcement at New York Comic Con. How great would it be
33:09
if the surprise announcement was that they're moving Starfleet Academy to the twenty fifth century.
33:19
Well, they're not going to do it, and they're gonna do Legacy
33:21
instead. Yeah that's fine. Yeah, yeah, I mean, honestly,
33:24
they can. They can make any show they want in any timeline they want,
33:29
as long as it's not in Discovery's timeline. It's not about Discovery or
33:32
anybody in Discovery. None of those characters exist anymore. We're going back to
33:37
the current timeline and we're good. Then they can do anything they want.
33:42
It'd be fine. I'd be fine with the Academy if it was set in
33:45
then where we are right now, around the area where we are right now,
33:49
either either at the end of Piccard or the four Pocard starts in between,
33:52
you know that, twenty years in between, or even where Lower Decks
33:55
is right now. Whatever. I just I don't want any more prequels.
34:00
I don't want any more things happening before. I don't want to I don't
34:01
want anything all the way out there in the future with Discoes timeline, because
34:07
they've totally ruined everything at that point. At this point with that timeline,
34:09
it's totally ruined. I don't care. I think this goes back to what
34:13
you were saying earlier in the show about when you watch these Star Wars shows,
34:17
you have to figure out when does this take place? Yeah, and
34:22
I think maybe they should learn from that mistake and pick a point on the
34:25
timeline the twenty fifth century and do your shows from there. Stop jumping around.
34:32
Yeah, and I mean it's okay to jump around for a good story
34:37
within the context of where your overall stories are at. Yeah, it's okay
34:40
to jump up and jump up and get down. That's right around. I
34:44
came to get down. I came to get down, So get out to
34:47
seat and jump around. Yeah, somebody make a gift of this, which
35:01
oh boy, yes, stop jumping around. Yeah. He's speaking directly to
35:09
Chad. Don't hire the Disco writers anymore to do, trek Bear says,
35:15
doesn't strange New Worlds have the same writers as Disco, so some of them.
35:20
Yeah, it's they have the same showrunners, essentially the same producers.
35:24
They have one main showrunner that's different for each show. But it's kind of
35:29
like the writer's rooms crossover a little bit, a little bit. Yeah,
35:35
so I'm still saying they could just hire us and they'd be far better off.
35:38
We'd be their show writers for each of us one hundred and twenty a
35:42
year. How much will we how much will we take? How much would
35:45
it take for you to stop what you're doing right now and be a writer
35:47
for Paramount on all I'm good, I'm gonna cost him a lot. How
35:52
much What would that salary you have to be to get I don't want to
35:55
discuss. I don't open the Komodo first. Very good, Very good,
36:02
Daniel. So that's right. I'm learning, yep, but I'll ex change
36:08
in the world. But you can see hints and discoes something. Yeah,
36:12
because that's the same overall producers, Like, it's the same group and they
36:15
all have a million producers. So New York Comic on JJ Abraham Star Trek
36:22
four will officially be Time Stop. We'll have Lee and Himsworth playing uh Kirk
36:35
because he's taking over for yeah, h Henry Cavill, Right, so oh
36:42
yeah's Liam ht Liam Himsworth is now going to be girlt uh in the Witcher
36:49
instead of Henry Kendry Cavil. Yeah, even I don't even know what that
36:52
is Oh you're missing out. The Witcher is fantastic. The Witcher show is
36:57
the show is the game. I watched one episode and couldn't get into it.
37:01
Henry Cavill is leaving the show. Yeah, yeah, after three seasons,
37:05
he's done. And you know why. I love Henry Cavill, by
37:07
the way, and this is this is one of the reasons why he's leaving
37:12
it over differences in opinion of how he thinks that that story should evolve.
37:19
Because it's all based on a game that he loves and he played forever and
37:22
ever and ever. He's a huge fan of of He's a huge gamer,
37:25
so he played The Witcher forever. That's why he wanted that. But he
37:28
was also a Wow World of Warcraft player and he's very upset about Yeah,
37:32
he's very upset about the direction that that the show is going. And he
37:37
was vocal about it. He was he was gonna do whatever, you know,
37:39
he needed to do. But he was vocal about it, and they
37:43
said, no, you're off the show because we just can't handle we can't
37:47
handle you being vocal about it anymore. Yeah, So he said, fine,
37:51
I quit. I'm done. Yeah. So, no, I don't
37:54
think the Tarantino trick thing is happening. I think that's done. I don't
38:00
even know if they got a full script, maybe like some drafts, but
38:02
I don't think they got a funal. I think Karenina wrote some things down
38:06
a napkin, got really excited and drunk whenever somebody's house and pitched it,
38:08
and then everybody made a whole story. Yeah, someone happened to be there,
38:13
who knew somebody who was a writer or something. Okay, it'll come
38:15
out right after a section thirty exactly. Yeah, we don't need that either,
38:22
We really don't. I don't think it's gonna happen. No, I
38:27
don't see section thirty one happening. I don't see this Academy thing actually happening
38:31
either. Yeah, I don't think so either. I'm fine with that.
38:36
Yep. And then there's Prodigy, which we don't speak of anymore, apparently.
38:39
I'm honestly really okay with once we get through the last season of Discovery,
38:45
Strange New World's lower decks being the only the only two one for a
38:50
while. Yeah, let it let everything you know get through what you're trying
38:53
to do a Strange New World. Let people focus on that do it correctly,
38:59
put your energy into let the demand build back up for something new and
39:04
different with track, finish out what you've what you've planned on doing with strange
39:07
new worlds, and then move to the next time. Gentry coming out with
39:14
judgment against Dan and Scott. Man. That's such an apt phrase. Well,
39:20
Scott, Scott wants to replace Chat. Gentry wants wants to replace me.
39:23
That's what it is. Yeah, Well, and it's because this show
39:30
is quickly becoming like a Klingon ship. Yes, I'll have to fight for
39:36
dominance. That's it. Sleep with one eye open, that's okay. I
39:42
have the keys, Yes you do. Unfortunately you have all the keys.
39:46
I do have all the keys. We made it that way on purpose because
39:50
Dan lose them. Wait, wasn't the password again? A shit, we're
39:54
gonna start this whole thing over There's a lot it's keeping going on. That's
40:00
right there, it is. Yeah, yep, this mind. We're the
40:07
USS cutthroat over here us. That's right. Oh man, the end of
40:15
a blade. Yep, all right, so we get the feedback. Yeah,
40:20
let's get the feedback. Hold on there, should play that thing.
40:27
Hey, hey, hey, hey, Daniel's the engineer on the Clingon ship.
40:39
You can't really kill him. Yeah, look at look at Scott's dream
40:43
line up here, Daniel. Wow, we should actually do Oh we should
40:52
talk about this soft line, but we should actually do an episode like that
40:57
and have it be the Klingon cast. You know the opener that Dave it
41:00
made way back in the You known't play that have a picture of Tarak Nora
41:04
on its side. You know that's the Mirror universe. That's what it is.
41:07
I love you, like, we should talk about this offline, and
41:09
then I just lay it all out. Yeah, I am actually today wearing
41:17
official merch Chad is wrong. Okay, black is black, but it's there.
41:24
Yeah right, I'm black. Yeah, I'm doing that specifically because Scott
41:30
was wearing merch last week and called us out about being the only one wearing
41:32
merch. And I'm like, I can't lose my job today. I better
41:36
dressed apart. Oh that's funny. So I did put out a question to
41:45
the group as to the Koala, why is he smiling it and what does
41:50
he know? Uh? The overwhelming response was we wanted to talk about Moopsie
41:54
instead. Yeah, everybody loves the Moopsie. They want their bones drink.
42:04
I guess I don't know. Well, it's a new it's a new uh
42:08
new thing, right, it's a new well can you add can you legitimately
42:14
add Mopsie and with like Badgie and Peanut Hamper. Oh yeah, that's your
42:20
triumph of evil right there? Those three, Yeah, that's your new dominion.
42:28
That's three just unleashed. Yeah. Yeah, we need George W.
42:34
Bush saying access of evil. That's access of evil, all three of them,
42:40
all three of them. What is the most dangerous and why is it?
42:45
Badgie? Oh, it's definitely. Yeah. He's gonna teach you a
42:50
lesson. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent saving Yeah, you're saving the
42:59
thought for the minute track cass calendar. Oh right, oh lord, yeah,
43:05
someday we'll have the minute track cast calendar. I don't know. Oh,
43:09
we do have somebody who wants to come on. Let me let me
43:13
bring him in here, Scott, Yeah, Dad, Chad, listen,
43:23
Chad, I mean, okay, you guys, remember like star Lord and
43:27
Thour, they're trying to kind of have that cute little back and forth about
43:30
who's in charge. Yeah, the attitude there, listen, Chad, everybody
43:36
knows who they want is okay, there's no question. I don't want you
43:43
to you know, worry. We all know it's the pretty one. Yea.
43:50
So yeah, Oh, I did have one thing I wanted to give
43:58
you guys, an update my t O S rewatch or first watch. Actually
44:06
just got to The Menagerie. Oh, you're gonna say you officially gave up.
44:13
Yeah, with the Cage. No, my wife and I watch one
44:16
or something. No, it's halfway almost halfway through season one, and that's
44:22
the one that focuses It revolves around Captain Pike. So yeah, it's kind
44:29
of interesting too to see where they could go with that, and they I
44:35
don't know. It's not a spoiler if we're talking about an episode from the
44:38
t O S right at the end of the at the end of the two
44:44
parter, it's actually everybody lives Happily ever After, because if everybody doesn't know,
44:51
The Menagerie is sort of a rewatch of it's a it's a clip show
44:57
from The Cage, which was Star Trek's first pilot the NBC rejected, and
45:05
that was about a group, a race of extremely intelligent beings that basically kidnaped
45:12
Pike. Yeah, and want to basically kidnap him so he can procreate and
45:17
whatever. But they can make illusions and they can make sick people and old
45:22
people look and feel young again, and so they kind of revisit that in
45:28
the Menagerie, and at the very end of the episode, Pike goes back
45:31
to this planet and the last thing they see a Pike is he's you know,
45:37
he's healed and he's happy and he's walking into the cave with a hot
45:40
blonde and yeah, you know said it's all in his head, but right,
45:47
but I'll think about it. If you were you know, found to
45:52
a wheelchair, couldn't talk, couldn't do anything. Yeah, I'll take that
45:55
all in my head over nothing. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's as
46:00
far as the watchability of this, it's hard. It's really hard. Not
46:07
and I'm not talking about and I think I talked about this last week.
46:13
It's not the special effects, which are horrible, and they've actually done a
46:17
pretty good job of all the exterior shots, all the special effect shots,
46:22
those have all been read one. But it's it's the the writing and the
46:28
dialogue and the I mean, the blatant sexism, and it's it's so bad
46:37
to the point where it's kind of funny now, but yeah, yeah it's
46:42
bad. You know, just can't get used to a woman on the bridge,
46:45
and that weird because like stuff like Batman, which is the same time
46:50
period, I can still watch that, no problem. Sure, sure,
46:55
Yeah, it's I think it's a action on what was a comedy. Yeah,
47:02
yeah, exactly, And it's also a reflection on what they were trying
47:06
to They were literally pointing out things like that about the women on the bridge
47:08
and all that to point out the sexism of the time, to point out
47:12
the issues of the time. They were making that show a statement about the
47:15
culture of the time right where it's it's it feels a little outdated obviously nowadays
47:22
because it's not not quite how we do it. But for that at its
47:25
time, that was very very ahead of its time. That was to use
47:31
a twenty first century term, but that was virtue signaling back in nineteen sixty
47:37
whatever. You were saying, Hey, I'll never get used to a woman
47:42
on the bridge. Look how far we've come we have women on the bridge.
47:46
Yeah. Absolutely, that's a good point. What the health entry what
47:52
Yeah, one of the prizes for an upcoming contest is you get to run
47:55
your fingers through Chad's hair for one minute. Wow, Okay, I know
48:04
there's something Gentry wants to share with the class. Yeah, exactly, if
48:09
I if I have a strong beard. Chad definitely has some strong hair going
48:13
on. But I guess I'll put a caveat to that. It depends on
48:16
who you are so to do that. So if we tu vics Chad and
48:28
Scott. Oh no, so we have the hair and beard together, what
48:34
would we call that person? Chat chat h scat. I'm gonna go with
48:45
sca. No, that sounds like the me and him crossing, like a
48:53
really bad transporter accident, almost like chat right, scared scared ball though,
49:04
Yeah, yeah that's what you call. That's what you call us when we
49:07
have a transporter accident, like from a Star Trek the motion picture. Yeah,
49:13
what they got back didn't live long. That was so weird, by
49:15
the way, to have that be one of the opening scenes because it's very
49:20
quickly into that episode. It's like, really you you guys what It was
49:24
very off putting and it was very out There was no context, like there
49:29
was no reason for it. Yeah, it was just some we won't show
49:32
somebody dying in a transporter accident. Where do we fit? I don't know.
49:35
I think they wanted to. I think they wanted to also showcase,
49:38
uh, doctor McCoy's aversion to the transporter. But yeah, that's easy enough
49:45
for a one liner, though, I mean a joke about the woman's in
49:47
the divorce, the woman took the whole planet, you know that kind of
49:51
Those kinds of things are great. Wasn't somebody dying horribly in a transporter accident
49:54
kind of funny? Not not actually watching that? No, No, the
50:00
you mean in the confinement beam? All right, like this very short track
50:05
and then you just walk on to the next thing. It's all good.
50:07
You know, we're gonna pass through that in two seconds flat. Don't care.
50:09
But we're gonna show Spock in a suit jetting towards this thing for fifteen
50:15
Well, we could be here for the rest of all of Sunday if we're
50:19
gonna just start criticizing, start Trek the motion picture. Yeah, yeah,
50:22
let's let's not do that. I do enjoy that movie. Though, I
50:25
do enjoy that movie. Its like two times speed. It is good.
50:29
Yeah, alright, anything else you want to bring up, Chad, I
50:35
was just gonna say that all right, Chad, Well, we've got some
50:42
other people are waiting, soul take care guys. See man, all right,
50:53
we also have another person, another caller on the line, as it
50:57
would be, let's bring him in and jazz Biz Hello. First question good.
51:05
First question for you, Jazz is how much should we rent Scott for
51:07
his time on his on air? We're giving them all kinds of free publicity.
51:13
I'd say quite a bit lately. I mean, he's taken over your
51:16
spot. He's reaching tens of people every Sunday morning, what thousands of listeners
51:24
later, everybody in their house has their phones open, like everybody else's account.
51:30
It was like, yeah, I got my wife's account, open,
51:32
my kid's account. Mom, you gotta tune into check cast. Come on?
51:45
Oh yeah? Would you think it was not my favorite episode? I'm
51:51
almost I think they need to make their own episodes and quit referring to everything
52:00
Angle Show almost there's almost too much now, ye man, just think how
52:07
much they referred to on this episode, Like what what did they referred to?
52:13
Alamarine? Yeah? I mean, hell, they made fun of the
52:17
computer that was this ancient computer if you think of next generation when Wesley was
52:22
you know, and all the kids were taken on the enterprise because they had
52:28
no children on the planet. And that's what computer reminded me of kids Snatch
52:34
your planet, and it's like and they were made of artists and poets and
52:39
blah blah blah. Yeah, good point, good point. I didn't think
52:43
about those two correlations at the good point because they didn't know how to operate
52:46
the computer or anything. Right where all the adults who couldn't have kids.
52:52
Yeah, no, it was a decent episode. Actually, if they,
52:58
you know, bought an old handy computer to reboot it, they could have
53:07
had the box cover come up. Yeah, it slides up and it's a
53:09
it's one of the Magenta Imax from two thousand and one. Everybody keep the
53:15
magnets away from the floppy disk. Yeah, oh that See. They did
53:21
miss some opportunities with that. There was a few times in this episode where
53:24
just whatever joke they were trying to land, whatever they were doing, they
53:28
just didn't There are four canisters, there were four lights, but they didn't
53:32
they didn't really push the jokes in the direction where I thought they would.
53:37
They kind of whatever they were doing the flap, But you're right, a
53:38
floppy disk here or there on that ancient computer would have been hilarious. Yeah,
53:43
yeah, because they could have had like fun of just our ancient computers
53:46
here. You know they're not even ancient, but I mean a couple of
53:50
years ago. Yeah, it could have been changing a real real or something
53:54
crazy like that, the old you know, main frames? Is it weird?
54:00
Did? I thought? Where did they get the update from? Like
54:01
who designed the update? Yeah? I didn't get that either. That's where
54:07
some of the plot line or the things they were doing just didn't make any
54:09
sense to me, Like where's this update coming? It was in the cloud,
54:14
right in the cloud. Yeah, yeah, I didn't get that.
54:22
But no I had. I found an old MP three player that I gave
54:24
to my daughter yesterday, and it's literally one of those. It seems so
54:29
weird and anequated now, but remember when the iPods kept getting smaller and smaller
54:34
and it took the screens off of them and they were literally just a USB
54:37
stick that you pop your headphones into. Right. I found one of those
54:42
and gave it to my kid, who charged it up yesterday and she's like,
54:44
what is this? This is? I leaned the thumb drive, Dad,
54:46
I want an MP three player, and I said, that's an MP
54:49
three player. She's like, no, way, never, she'd never seen
54:52
one of those. They're so tiny. I actually have an old player full
54:58
one because we're taking things out of anyway, We're taking like her ability to
55:02
just to have full internet access out of out of most of her devices.
55:06
So okay, yeah, so no, but school and yeah exactly, So
55:12
load up your you know, five hundred songs on this little stick and that's
55:15
it. You don't need to have every song, no snake from this predefined
55:20
list. By the way, you don't need to listen to every filthy song
55:22
is Yeah, but no, I did find and I don't know where that's
55:25
out either, because I found it in my stuff. But I actually have
55:29
an original iPod. It was black on the front out, not the white.
55:31
It was right after they did the whites for a while. Then they
55:35
came out with the black front case of it with the screen on it,
55:38
and then on the back it's engraved with my name and everything. But I
55:42
don't know where I set it. But the sucker feels so freaking heavy.
55:44
This is like probably from two thousand and four, yeah, two thousand and
55:47
three, something like that. I still literally it's it feels twice, if
55:52
not three times as heavy as the phone. It's crazy. Yeah, I
55:58
smell it's great on the iPod. No, I have a zoom. I
56:01
used to have a zoom. Yeah, yeah, I could afford a zoom.
56:06
I had like the Walmart branding back then. I can't afford an Apple
56:13
had the music stick. I was a pizza boy. So the Zoode had
56:19
a great deal, like you could download music onto it for free, Like
56:22
he paid a monthly thing and you would get ten song credits and you just
56:27
get any ten songs he wanted. Now, I think this thing had like
56:30
two hundred and fifty gigs of storage on it, and I had it full.
56:36
A buddy of mine, two buddies of mine actually were in the we're
56:37
in the military. When they were stationed overseas, they had this huge repository.
56:43
Everybody to throw their MP three's up there, so and then they would
56:45
all share them. And this is during the time of like right after Napster,
56:50
around the time of like Lime Wire, yeah like that. So yeah,
56:53
so we had all this pirate of music. And so when he came
56:57
back, he literally had like one hundred and forty gigs that he gave out
57:00
to the rest of us guys and love, and I still have all that
57:01
today. I mean, they could probably pull up iTunes and see all of
57:05
it. In fact, I know I do because when iTunes did their merge
57:08
thing. I remember remember when all that happened, when they did that merge
57:12
thing where they said, Okay, it doesn't matter what songs you have or
57:14
where they come from. If they don't have DRM, we don't know how
57:16
you got them. We don't care if you want to put them all in
57:19
the cloud as part of your library and merge everything you can. And they
57:22
did that for like a six month period with iTunes, and I did that.
57:27
So now all of that stuff is all looks like it's all mine and
57:30
it's saved in perpetuity on the cloud. It's kind of nice. So you
57:34
guys share paramount. I found out this week. Yeah, I'm talking about
57:38
I donates. Guys are nothing but pirates. No, no, no,
57:45
no, you know damn well, Chaz Biz, I'm a FERENGHI I'm a
57:51
businessman. Okay, I'm gonna find every way to skin that cat. Why
57:55
would you heard a cat Chad's market with CDs that he's burned back in the
58:05
day all these albums. This is the full copy of P ninety X.
58:10
Literally, like I spent three hundred dollars for it. It's years now for
58:14
forty nine ninety nine. See what I mean. There's ways to make money,
58:16
guys, my diss doing it, but it was great. Onions are
58:24
in league with the Frengie what I think it's people, But I mean love
58:35
onions. Everyone knows umaks and onions sounds. Ah, they can do umax
58:42
with Scott's beard. There you go, Oh no, there you go?
58:46
All right, Jadz anything else you want to bring up, that's all.
58:51
We went totally off tangent there. I mean, you can sell this episode
58:53
of was amazing because we're just trying not to. Yeah, we've not been
58:58
talking about it at all. Well, everybody, it was a episode.
59:02
It wasn't funniest episode. It just kind of was there. I was like,
59:07
hopefully the next fix it is gonna be funnier. It's like the first
59:10
few episodes all laughed my butt off. But oh yeah, all right,
59:15
now they you know, they can't be they can't be all you know,
59:19
not all you know. Yeah, I mean it's a good palate cleanser before
59:22
we get a good one. We'll put it that way. It's kind of
59:24
Beatles like, if you go to a deep track of a Beatles song,
59:28
you're not crap. So they're not all winners, guys, so they're not
59:34
for sure. All right, man, thanks for being on, Thank you,
59:40
all right, you're right, bobo. We should have an only fans.
59:44
Scott's hair, Chad's hair, Scott's beard, Daniel's glass, Dan's glasses,
59:49
and what would be Daniels Daniels hoodies give you daily affirmations little yeah,
1:00:00
exactly, yeah, little those daily affirmations, right, little old show.
1:00:09
Oh god, feet Yeah, I think we just learned more about jazz biziness.
1:00:17
Yeah, jazz got thing for feet. Yeah, uh, Baffle,
1:00:25
I knew what you were talking about. That's great man. I don't think
1:00:29
Daniel put that out, but I know what you mean, Pavel. But
1:00:34
as long as you're not running for office as a damn for yeah, sniff
1:00:40
Daniel's hoodie. No, it's laughing. What a show, I think.
1:00:52
Yeah, I had more fun in this hour than watching lower Decks, that's
1:00:57
for well. At least nobody got kicked out like beetlejuice. Yep, yep,
1:01:05
yeah, all right, well, I guess we'll be back next week.
1:01:09
Yeah, by do two. I got a football game. I get
1:01:12
the at the sports ball in an hours. Are no, I'm watching?
1:01:19
Okay, Well, I just hope teams have fun. I hope nobody gets
1:01:24
hurt. There a, yeah, nobody gets hurt. All right. Well,
1:01:30
thanks for everybody listening, and we'll see you next week. Yep,
1:01:32
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