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The PCR Sports Show - Friday 2nd January 2026 - with Pro Golfer Thalia Martin and caddy and mum Sitti Martin · The PCR Sports Show

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Welcome to PCR Sports. Good evening, I'm Dipam and
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welcome to the PCR Sports Show. Myself and Nigel this evening.
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A very happy New year to you. Hope you had a wonderful
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Christmas and a New Year. We've had a break last week,
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we're back now with great meaning and purpose for the new
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year and 2026 will hopefully be bigger and better than ever on
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the sports front locally and regionally and certainly on our
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show as well. So we've got a great show lined
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up this evening to kick the new year off.
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We've got to professional golfer Talia Martin in the studio with
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us, with her caddy Anna, Mum City Martin, a great team who've
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been around for a number of years, been on the show a couple
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of times already. And we'll be getting an update
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from Talian City about the adventures and the success
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they've had throughout 2025 because it's been a really good
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year for them. But as always, let's start the
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show with the headlines and Nigel has some for this evening.
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Hello, Nigel, how are you? I'm very well, thank you mate.
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How are you? Yeah, excellent.
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Thank you. Good, Okay, your Peterborough
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Christmas sports headlines round up then and we'll start off with
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the Posh. Peterborough United enjoyed a
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strong Christmas run, grinding out results and showing a real
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resilience on the road. A gritty one nil win at Port
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Vale kept momentum rolling into the festive week.
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Harry Leonard's fifth goal in 4 league matches settled the
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contest late on as Posh moved up to 16th in the table.
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A Boxing Day victory followed over Leyton Orient, sealed by
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dramatic 94th minute winner from Declan Frith and then Posh
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battled red into A11 draw at the Western Stadium with Gustav
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Lindrum grabbing the equalizer. And finally on New Year's Day
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they kicked off 2026 with a confident 2 nil win away at
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Rotherham, extending their excellent form and they now sit
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a commendable 11th in the table. And manager Luke Williams
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praised his side's grit and growing maturity.
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And it's hard to argue Posh look sharp, organized and hungry
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heading into the new year. Next up for Posh is a trip to
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Lincoln on Saturday, sorry Sunday the 4th of January with
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the 12 noon kick off across the city.
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It wasn't the ideal festive spell for Peterborough sports,
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although it wasn't without its bright spots.
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The standout fixture came on Boxing Day where they earned A
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battling 2 two draw away at King's Lynn in front of more
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than 1500 fans. Luka Miller and Mark Jones
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struck for the Turbines, who led at half time before Lynn hit
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back with a superb free kick. Phil Brown's side showed real
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character under pressure in the final half hour and the point
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keeps them in the mix as they look to climb the National
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League N table in 2026. Sports went on to face fellow
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relegation contenders Oxford City and they dominated large
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spells of the game but couldn't find the breakthrough in a
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frustrating goalless draw at Pym's Park.
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They hit the woodwork twice in the first half and were
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repeatedly denied by Oxford keeper Jamie Partington.
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Oxford had chances of their own but Sports keeper Peter Crook
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produced 2 strong saves to keep things level.
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Despite controlling possession after the break, Sports couldn't
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turn pressure into a goal and had to settle for a point that
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keeps them just outside the relegation zone heading into the
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new year. Next up is another home game
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against Marine tomorrow with a 3:00 PM kick off.
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Sports have already beaten Marine in the first half of the
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season, but since then the Merseyside outfit have climbed
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to 10th position, so it'd be a challenge for the city's second
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side. The club have announced an 8:00
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AM pitch inspection tomorrow, so please follow the club's social
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media accounts for the latest news in the morning.
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Another change to the fixture list as well at Sports is the
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away game FC filed originally scheduled for the 10th of
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January but filed RNFA Trophy action on that day.
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So the game was rescheduled for the 13th of January, but a
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further change has now meant the game will be played on Tuesday
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the 3rd of February. Again, just check out the club
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social media accounts for more details there.
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If you wanted some festive fireworks then The Phantoms
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certainly lit the fuse. They delivered a Christmas
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cracker at Planet Ice with an 86 thriller over rivals MK
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Lightning in front of a sell out crowd.
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Cam Howe stole the show with five goals, including the
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stunning late hat trick inside 3 minutes.
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Captain Luke Ferreira continued his outstanding season, adding
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assists and confirming a new three-year contract extension.
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The win keeps The Phantoms firmly in the top four of the
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National League standings and heading towards playoff ice
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hockey once again this season. The Planet Ice win followed A53
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defeat in the reverse fixture the day before.
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Despite trading blows early on, MK Lightning proved more
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clinical, striking key goals on the power play and capitalizing
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on defensive lapses. The Phantoms kept themselves in
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it through goals from Ralph Sinceris, Cam Howe and Dylan
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Lawrence. But KS late surge including a
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sharp finish from Harry Gulliver sealed the win and Peterborough
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Roller Hockey Club capped off the pre Christmas fixtures with
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a superb 7 two home win over her and Bay at Bushfield's Leisure
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Centre. It was fast, physical and full
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of goals. Peterborough controlled the game
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from the start to the finish. Goal scorers were at
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Peterborough where Harry Hillen four goals, Michael Carter with
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two and Luca Oakley with one. Man of the match was Harry
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Hillam and that result keeps them competitive in the Premier
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League table as they prepare for the January restart and finally
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dip on. We've just got a little Boxing
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Day round up for the local clubs.
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It was of course Derby day on Boxing Day and deep in Rangers
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enjoyed a perfect post Christmas boost with A2 nil away win at
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Wisbech Town. Goals from Hendo and Randall
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delivered the points and the festive cheer for the Rangers
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faithful. Whittlesey Athletic were at home
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on the 27th of December hosting FC Peterborough in a local
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furlough nun Division 1 N Derby. The score finished two one to FC
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Peterborough and Spalding United delivered one of the standout
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Boxing Day results, beating rivals Stamford three nil at the
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Sahali Stewart Field. A dominant performance once
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again, you have to say, by the tulips in front of a bumper
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holiday crowd. And that's your headlines for
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this week. Thank you, Nige.
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Yeah, lots going on as always. And football normally is the
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sort of main sport this time of year because I know a lot of the
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other local clubs perhaps have a bit of a Christmas break and
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lots of things happening. And Posh in a good way.
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Now really, compared to earlier in the season, yeah, looking up,
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rather looking down, really only 6 points off the playoff.
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Absolutely. Yeah, I think we can start
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talking about Posh in a much better vein now than a few weeks
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ago. All the way up to it's it's very
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close though, all the way up to 11th now.
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But you look, it's only sort of three points and they're back
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down to the top of the playoffs again.
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So it's it's tight in League One.
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But yeah, certainly looking at the table now, it's it's much
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better viewing than what it was. Absolutely.
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And sports, I know you follow them closely.
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You're your our sort of representation from, from PCR
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sports in terms of the media and and you do the the interviews
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with the manager, Phil Brown and then the various other people
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and sports again had a a poor start to the season, but slowly
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kind of coming back up. They're out of the the
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relegation zone at the moment. And it looks like Phil Brown,
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you know, his impact is, is, is notable, isn't it?
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I think it's slowly turning it around.
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Yeah, it's it's difficult. I think it will be a close
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friend thing. I think we'll just come out of
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the bottom four and then we'll go in it again and it it's going
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to be that pattern for the end of the season.
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And hopefully we'll finish on the the right side of that line
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come the end of the season. But yeah, Phil Brown's
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definitely making a difference. It's it's a totally different
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side from what started the season as well.
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Injuries continue to be a problem for sports.
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Dan Jarvis again limped out over the Christmas period and a
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couple of other injuries as well that have been really unlucky.
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And I know from from Phil's interviews, he's been saying
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that that's solely or he, he feels it's solely because
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they're part time and that the quicker they can go hybrid and
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then potentially full time, that'll be better because the
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players will do a lot more strength and conditioning work
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rather than just fitness work. And they don't get the chance to
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do that, hence a lot of injuries.
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That's that's his view on that. Absolutely, yeah, we'll see.
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It's going to be, it's going to be a long season, but it's a,
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it's never a dull moment that People's park.
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And tomorrow's game, obviously, hopefully the weather won't
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cancel it, but that's another another again, every game is
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important really at the moment is.
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It yeah, let's hope so. The the problem with weekend
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games getting called off, of course, is that they'll be
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replayed on Tuesday. We've had that with File.
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That's now a long trip to the other side of Blackpool on a
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Tuesday night. This one's home, so it won't be
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too bad, but it's still a lot of travelling from Marine to come
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down to to Peterborough. They're on Merseyside, of
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course. So yeah, we we want to get the
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game on if we possibly can. There is a a heavy freeze
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forecast for tonight. It's a pitch inspection at 8:00
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in the morning. And if you're going to be honest
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there, that should be frozen in the morning.
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But there are parts of the Pyms Park pitch that won't see
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sunshine tomorrow, so I don't know it's it's a tricky one
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we'll have to wait in soon. And you gotta be fair to the
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opponents, especially if they gotta travel that far as well.
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Have you? Absolutely.
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That's that's why it's 8:00 in the morning so that that Marine,
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you know, don't have to set off not knowing whether it's gonna
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be on or not. The the reverse of that has
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happened a few times and and even the horrible situation
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South Shields sports got halfway up to South Shields when it was
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called off. And you know, nobody wants that
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at that level of football because it just just brings
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costs that that the club can't afford.
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Absolutely. So watch this space and I'm sure
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we'll share the news on our social media depending on what
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happens in the morning. Thank you, Nigel.
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Right, let's take a break and we speak in golf after the break.
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We'll be speaking to Tally Martin and her caddy and mum
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City Martin. We'll be talking about the
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success they've had in 2025 playing around the world, and we
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look forward to hear from them in a few minutes.
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Stay tuned this PCR. You're listening to PCR sports.
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Good evening and welcome back to the PCR Sports Show with myself
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Right back to this evening show with Talia and City Martin, who
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are a mother and daughter team, professional golfers and is the
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golfer and mum. City is the caddy and and
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manager, I believe as we were speaking before the show.
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So welcome back to the show guys.
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It's always great to have you on.
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No, thank you for having us. Yes, it's always good to be
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back. And yeah, after the Christmas
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times and everything. Absolutely.
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Happy New Year. Yes.
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Well, thank you and to you too and thanks for kicking off 2026
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for us so. Thank.
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You good to have you. You were, you were last with us
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in November 23. So time flies over two years
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ago. Two years ago, Yeah.
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Time flies. You're having fun.
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It does like that and you're having a lot of fun at the
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moment. Lots.
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Of fun, yeah. So I mean, how has things been
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for you since since you last been on the show?
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I know 2025 has been. You've seen some success, which
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is good. Yeah.
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So we've kind of followed your story.
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I think the first time you were ever on in 2022, I believe it
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was, I can't remember whether you just turned pro or you were
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about to turn pro and, and we've kind of followed your career on
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the show and, and, and since then and.
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I appreciate that all the support is, yeah, I mean, no.
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It's a pleasure, you know, you're, you're fantastic at what
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you do and you're a great friend of the show and we love to to
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speak with you every time you come in.
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So. So yeah.
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Tell us more about what's happened since, I suppose since
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November 2323 and in particular last year.
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Yeah. So yeah, if we work backwards,
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yeah, 2024 it was a struggle. And I, I will admit that you
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know, as sports players we're, we always have the ups and downs
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and 2024 was a lot of downs and ups.
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And I did lose a little bit of my confidence and then ended off
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2024 still managing to gain some sort of status ready for 2025.
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And then the at the beginning of 2025 it my confidence I was
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still struggling with. That's why I always have my mum,
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well travel with me on the bag to just help me mentally mostly.
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And and then, yeah, I think it was I think the fourth or fifth
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tournament in 2025. I think it was the fifth
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tournament in 2025. And it was the last tournament
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for the Sunshine Tour event which was held in South Africa.
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And I thought to start my year on that tour because it's always
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a good way to begin in the sunshine and and travel around
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there is ran to pounds is quite a good conversion rate.
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And yeah, the final event you had to win the tournament in
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order to get a placing on the late these European Tour South
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African Opens. And I don't know why I said to
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mum we didn't have the best of starts to 2025.
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But I said to mum, look, let's let's put all our eggs in one
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basket. Let's let's try and win this
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tournament. So then we have a place in the
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Ladies European Tour in South African Open.
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Yes, for for the two to South African Opens and, and I don't
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know what happened that week, but I didn't think about any
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fears or anything. I just saw the end goal and I
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was just so focused on trying to win to get that placing.
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So then we can start the 2025 better off than what what 2024
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was. And, and yeah, that week
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everything just fall into place. I felt really comfortable.
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I felt confident. I got back all, all the positive
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energy that I needed during that week and, and the weather was
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hit and miss, but luckily it didn't wipe out too much of the
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week. And yeah, managed to get get the
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wind in the end. And I couldn't, couldn't believe
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that I actually did it. And I just kept on manifesting
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it throughout that week. I kept on visualising before I
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go to bed, holding up that trophy.
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And it really does work when you put your mind to it and you
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really do focus on what you want.
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You can achieve anything really with two.
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Absolutely amazing story and, and you know, you hear this from
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a lot of supporting people around what you've just
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mentioned there about visualising manifestation and so
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that your brain and your mind is tuned into that that that course
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of action, isn't it? And obviously it's paid
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dividends for you and and. Yeah, you attract the energy
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that you want. That's right.
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And and yeah, it's, you hear it all the time.
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You know all these greats, the Goats of the sports and all the
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different types of sporting industries and when you actually
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do it and it actually works. You think, wow, this thing does
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work? Wow OK.
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Can they put this into like a drink?
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Yeah, that's right. Yeah, just just take a sip
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whenever you need it and off you go.
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That'd be amazing, wouldn't? It yeah, but but yeah, but it
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was so good to have my confidence back and and then,
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yeah. And then it got me the placing
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for the South African opens for the Ladies European Tour, which
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then, you know, domino effects and got me points and then got
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me cards and etcetera. And then I didn't think about
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another win, but I think a month or within the space of a month,
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I think, yeah. After South Africa, we went to
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Morocco for the Ladies European Tour access tour, which is like
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a, how can I say it, like a, a, a build a build up tour to the
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Ladies European Tour. So yeah, it's just a one level
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below the European Tour. And, and yeah, I was in Morocco.
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I nearly didn't go because I already had some points on the
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main tour that I didn't need to actually go and play this.
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But I said to mum, we already booked everything, let's just
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go. And again, I just played with,
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yeah, No Fear, just confidence. I liked the course and it was
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windy as well, so I love the challenge of the wind and it
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makes you more creative on the course and and yeah, for some
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reason it went into. A.
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Win within the space of a month. It wasn't an easy win.
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No win is easy. But it was a a long time because
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we had to go through a playoff and the playoff went on for
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quite some time. So I think the playoff went at
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4:00. Times.
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Yeah, 4 times it took took us 4 No 1235 holes.
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It took us to yeah, get get the win over.
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So playoff is effective like I suppose a football liquid
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penalty shootout is it? Yes, yeah, yes.
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So. You go hole by individually,
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hole by hole to see who who wins the hole.
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Yeah, who beats? So it was me versus an another
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girl and we played hole 18 again and again until someone.
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Oh she played the same hole dude.
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Same hole. And then because it took, I
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think the fourth attempt, we both scored the same four times
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in a row. They changed the hole to 17.
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And then and then I managed to, yeah, get the better score on
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that hole to then win the putt actually went round the hole 360
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and then finally dropped because I thought it was going to do a
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lip out. It wasn't going to go in.
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And then I was looking at it. I was thinking, don't you dare.
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And it actually did drop in. And I was like, oh, it's the.
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Sort of thing you see in a film, isn't it?
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Yeah. It was, it was weird in my mind
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it would happen in such a slow motion effect, but I saw the
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video back and it was really quick and it just, yeah.
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Managed to drop in to. To get the win.
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But no, it was yeah, it was unexpected, but it was nice to
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also build more confidence, really throughout the season.
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But yeah. And like I say, if you had that
19:16
dip in confidence the previous year, this is kind of completely
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really. Opposite yeah, I was saying to
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mum, reflecting back on 2025, it's it's not the end of
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anything it's the start of me truly believing myself to now I
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can add extra goals to things that I I never thought that I I
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would be able to add and yeah, so it's nice to yeah, reach
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higher. I guess your belief levels are
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levelling up then, aren't they really?
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Yes, yeah, yeah, there's lots of plans coming into a head of for
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2026 and yeah, we'll see how it all goes.
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But yeah, have new goals now. Fantastic.
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That's amazing news, right? So let's take a short break
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there on that point, because I'd like to speak to city as well
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after break just to. Kind of get a view on things and
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and obviously be nice to know. Again, just a reminder to the
20:07
resistance of your kind of story of how you got into golf because
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I think that's really interesting.
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Yeah. So we'll touch on that as well.
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So, right, we'll take that break now and we're back in a few
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minutes. It's PCR FM.
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You're listening to PCR sports. Welcome back to the PCR Sports
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wherever you are in the world. So yes, back to Talia and the
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city. Who's speaking to Talia about
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her golfing achievements in 2025?
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And city, who's her caddy, her mum and all around just general
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support and business manager. City, welcome to the show again
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and how are you? Thank you for having me.
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No pleasure. It's always great to have you
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both on the show. So obviously you're you're
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involved in in in the golf sport as much as Talia, but in various
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obviously different ways. Rather than actually playing
21:40
you're you're on the side doing all the other suppose the unseen
21:44
work that Talia doesn't have to worry about and and you cover
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all those bases. So that's all my.
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Winnings, though. That's that's a heck of a
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contract she signed with you then.
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What I said is CEO for everything.
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Yeah. I mean, so you obviously, I
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mean, just tell us about your kind of involvement and, and,
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and you know what you do and then how you support Talia and
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what she does. Yes, because I know the Gov is
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very, very tough and mentally and physically everything and
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I'm there to support her everything from you know, I
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don't want to see is it like worried about food, about the
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accommodation or travelling and everything and driving handle
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everything for her and she just concentrate to practice and play
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and then on the course. I just keep her mind just cool
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and don't panic. Yeah, sometimes you're panic.
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When you panic, you, you know, you can't hit the ball properly.
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And yeah, keep her calm and carry on.
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I mean, it's, it's an amazing story.
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I mean, again, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't, I
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presume there's not many parents, siblings, parent sort
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of daughter or son situations in the Gulf, is there or does it
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happen quite often you've. Been together for a long time,
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yeah. But there there is, you know,
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their mum and dads or brothers or family.
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Members. Family members.
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Yeah, Caddy, but maybe we keep. We keep their longer, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Mums been, yeah.
23:31
But I guess you know, whether it's your mum, dad or another
23:35
family member, in some ways they know you better than most.
23:38
So if you, if you've got a what you regard as as as a more of a
23:43
conventional business manager in or or a coach or a caddy in,
23:46
yeah, perhaps they don't know you as well as your your parent
23:48
does. For example, you know your
23:49
psyche, how you mentally you know work and all else.
23:53
Especially when my mum knows if I haven't had food then you need
23:58
to feed her straight away. So there's those like little
24:00
things that you're family member, whoever it is would
24:04
would know better than just like a professional caddy or manager,
24:09
etcetera, Unless you know, you just need to spend a lot of time
24:13
together to really understand each other.
24:15
And I think that's why we work quite well together, because we
24:20
we know each other. Inside out, yeah, of.
24:22
Course we have the same hobby and sometime when you have to
24:26
golf, if they have a we like swimming and we like exercise
24:31
we're doing. Same sort of thing.
24:33
Yeah, we like we always active. Yeah, yeah.
24:36
Which is amazing. What's what's that dynamic like
24:39
though? Because parents and siblings
24:41
don't get on all the time as that ever.
24:45
Gosh, yeah. Say like we are the perfect.
24:49
No, we have some ups and downs and I think it's just how we
24:55
recover. Would you agree?
24:56
Yeah, from it, Yeah. And and we just know when to
25:00
give each other space. Yes.
25:03
And when we need to give each other a hug or, you know, we
25:07
understand that and communicate better.
25:09
Yeah, for that. Which is good.
25:11
It sounds like there's obviously great respect between you, as
25:13
you know, you know each other very well.
25:15
Yeah. And you have the the capability
25:19
to overcome challenges, you know, whether it's with each
25:21
other or the actual sport or the OR the event.
25:23
And the other important thing when on the course we keep like
25:27
business, we don't have mum or or daughter that and we just
25:33
said this doesn't matter what we say, there's nothing.
25:38
It's our personal situation. It's more purely professional,
25:40
yeah, which is brilliant. So you don't often have to play
25:43
that I'm your mum card, do you? Yeah, do as I say she's.
25:49
Still the CEO. Yeah, absolutely.
25:51
And she gets all the winnings. Yeah.
25:57
Fantastic. I mean what, what, what's,
26:00
what's the most sort of challenging and what's the most
26:03
sort of rewarding part of what you do city imagine reward wise.
26:10
Obviously your own daughter succeeding in the sport must be
26:12
quite rewarding. And my company obviously.
26:14
Obviously. Yeah, this because the on LET
26:20
and the golf, they're very, very friendly.
26:24
There's A and I feel like comfortable and sometimes when
26:32
because I'm small, when I'm carried a bag, just people just
26:37
see from behind me, just the back just walking see me and
26:43
they have there's a one I think in India, someone just come to
26:47
me and say, do you need help? Fantastic.
26:53
And I said no, I'm OK. Yeah.
26:55
Yeah. So you can't, you can't take
26:57
over from me because if you take over, this disqualified.
27:00
Yes, of course. Yeah.
27:02
And then I'm I'm fine. If I'm not fine, I'm not here.
27:06
Yeah, they just worry because I'm so small.
27:08
Working. Yeah.
27:11
And the and the, the golf, I mean, the caddy's got a really
27:13
important job to do, haven't they?
27:15
You need to be on top of all the rules and, and you see lots of
27:18
caddies actually telling the players how to play shots and
27:22
yardage and stuff like that. How difficult is it to keep on
27:26
top of all that in? This Yeah, there's like
27:30
sometimes this I need to see the win and I say Talia the win from
27:36
whatever, but Talia can manage how strong the win.
27:40
And I'm not saying about the numbers because I don't want to
27:45
interfere with her numbers. I just OK if Talia said mom, I
27:49
think this one is OK, I said OK, go for it.
27:53
I just support like that and make her confident and.
27:58
Yeah, she's very good at knowing which direction the wind is
28:03
coming. Oh, really?
28:04
Really good with that. And there was, there's two times
28:08
actually, but one time in France, I needed this putt to be
28:13
able to get into the top 10 to then go to the next event, which
28:18
is a big event, an Aramco event in China.
28:21
And I needed to hold this putt for me to get into the China
28:24
event. And I said to mum, I'm
28:27
struggling here. What?
28:28
What's the read? And then she went and read and
28:31
we discussed and I trusted her judgement and it went in and it
28:36
was those like little moments because sometimes a player can't
28:41
always, you know, see or judge it, right, because you're in the
28:44
moment, you're panicking or adrenaline comes through.
28:47
So Mum sometimes can just calm the waters and yeah, make me see
28:52
what, what? I guess when you're you're there
28:54
playing with the club in your hand, like say the focus, the
28:58
bit of pressure, whatever, that kind of starts to sort of play
29:02
emotionally on you I suppose as well.
29:03
Whereas your mum is kind of slightly withdrawn and and could
29:06
be more objective about the situation, can't.
29:07
You, yeah, it's, it's like you see it from the outside
29:10
perspective. I'm always, I mean, when she
29:12
asks me, I'm not I'm not interfere when she's thinking
29:15
whatever, when she's struggling and say mum, can you help me?
29:19
What this thing OK. And then?
29:21
You're there. Yeah, you're there.
29:23
Yeah. It's like a yeah, a calling.
29:25
Yeah, helpline. That's it, yeah.
29:28
And I guess, I guess as well, when Talia wins or does really
29:31
well in the tournament, you're so proud, then you know, other
29:35
caddies that are, are just, I'm going to say just caddies.
29:38
That's the wrong terminology because they've got a very
29:40
important job. But it must be hard to keep a
29:43
lid on that excitement as well. Yeah, sounds on when like Talia
29:47
win when there's a half parts you need to go in, you need to
29:51
buddy, let's say to win and then I'm just thinking, come on
29:56
talent, you can't insult me. And then when she hold it and I
30:00
just screaming and she just I got.
30:04
So sure. Where did that?
30:06
Where did that? Where did that come from?
30:09
There's so many videos where everyone's like loving mums
30:13
reaction. There's the fist pump fantastic
30:17
towards the end which which is nice.
30:18
That's what it's all about. Really.
30:20
And how obviously the caddy follows the play around and, and
30:23
I presume there's regulation about how close you become to
30:27
the player or how far do you have to stay from, from when
30:29
you're playing a shot and all that sort.
30:31
Of just as long as it's not behind the the player as meaning
30:36
how can I say like you're helping them alignment sort of
30:40
thing, but you depends on the player where where caddy stands.
30:44
But rules wise and you can't stand where it looks like you're
30:49
helping the player to align. To align the shot, yeah.
30:51
So you have to be slightly to one side maybe?
30:52
Yeah, yeah, to the side, yeah. So, but yeah, depends on the
30:55
player. But me, I don't like anyone
30:58
being behind. I like to see where people
31:00
people are, yes. So if I'm over the ball, I just
31:02
need someone like. You see your mum in the out of
31:04
the corner of your eyes. She's there waiting to jump up
31:07
when that ball goes in. With all that fist pump.
31:11
Fantastic. Sally coming back to you, I
31:14
mean, just just before we go in a couple of minutes before we go
31:16
on the next break, just again reminder of how you got into
31:19
sport because golf wasn't your your kind of at the time, golf
31:22
wasn't your first choice, was it?
31:23
No. No, it wasn't.
31:25
Tennis was my first choice. Technically we're from a tennis
31:30
sort of family background 'cause I love running about and I just,
31:35
I, yeah, I like being active. So I never considered golf as a
31:39
sport back then, 'cause I was thinking, well, you're walking,
31:43
so it's not, it's not a sport. And then me and my dad, we went
31:49
to a restaurant and we didn't book a table.
31:53
So we had to wait. And it was an hour wait.
31:55
And I was thinking, well, what can we do in an hour?
31:57
And there was a driving range nearby.
32:00
And yes, so we went to the driving range, which back then,
32:03
and Peter was called the Swingers.
32:05
That's right, yes, next to Harvester, which is now Miller.
32:09
Something else? Yeah, absolutely.
32:11
It's all near Ferry Meadows. It's near theme park, isn't it?
32:14
Yeah. And, and yes, so we went to the
32:16
driving range and I just got hooked ever since then.
32:20
And if I never had that experience, I don't think I
32:24
would ever pick up the Yeah the sport.
32:26
Goal. So it's almost, it's just by
32:27
chance you got into into sport, isn't it?
32:30
Really. Yeah, yeah.
32:31
Fate. And now, now here we are at Wow,
32:34
yeah, yeah. It is crazy to think about it
32:36
now because yeah, I really did not like the thought of of golf.
32:41
And my dad always wanted me to try and I was like, no, no, no,
32:45
I want to run. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:47
Now I don't want to run. Turning 30 this year, I'm
32:51
thinking no golf is. Golf was the right choice, but
32:53
it is, I mean, it is still a physically demanding sport,
32:56
isn't it? And, and the exercise is
32:57
certainly there because, you know, every match you must walk
33:00
miles and miles. You, you certainly get your
33:02
steps in. Don't.
33:02
You a long time. 6-6 hours, six hours it takes for for around
33:07
best is probably like 5 hours and sometimes in the heat like
33:11
30 to 35°. Five hours is wow, yeah, quite a
33:15
lot. Do you measure your steps on
33:17
around? Do you know how many you do do?
33:19
I know I used to wear a woop band.
33:21
Yeah you used to tell me all the time but I forgot the amount.
33:24
But I do remember how much calories I burnt which is around
33:28
3005. 100 Wow, what in a one round of golf?
33:31
One round. Yeah.
33:32
Eighteen holes. Yeah, that's madness.
33:34
And I think that was only a practice round.
33:36
I don't think that was tournament.
33:37
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's but it is a lot
33:41
physically demanding now golf and everyone wanting to chase
33:44
distance now. Yeah.
33:46
So there's a lot of gym and strength and power mainly.
33:50
So offseason, I'm in the gym doing like power training,
33:54
strength training, Yeah, different to tennis.
33:57
Yeah, it is it, isn't it? Wow, fantastic.
34:00
So right, let's take our final break then and we're back with
34:02
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34:04
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34:36
way. Talia, I mean, you obviously
34:40
told just just before the break that you mentioned about how you
34:42
got into sport, which was circumstantial, let's say.
34:45
And but you're obviously succeeding very well at it now
34:49
in terms of you touched on it, Obviously the, the golf isn't,
34:53
is now sort of a really physical demanding sport compared to
34:55
perhaps he was before and mentally as well.
34:59
So I mean, how do you kind of reset in, you know, if you're
35:03
playing, you're playing the game.
35:04
And I know you said obviously your mum's there to support you,
35:07
but, you know, you perhaps do a shot that doesn't go as planned.
35:10
Yeah. How do you kind of mentally
35:11
reset? Does it play in your mind or do
35:13
you just think, well, it's gone now, let me just try and get on
35:15
and recover? And practice letting things go.
35:19
I actually do meditation at a in, in the mornings actually.
35:25
And there's a thing on YouTube where I always have where it's
35:29
called letting go and it's just a meditation to help you let
35:33
whatever happens throughout your day.
35:35
Could be anything. Could be you spilt your coffee
35:37
or something and you just let it go.
35:39
It happened, just let it go. But there are days where I don't
35:42
let it go and it's just learning how, how can I say it is?
35:49
I feel like sometimes there are days when I, I don't let it go
35:53
and I, I let it ball up and, and then I, I let it go in a way
35:58
where in a frustrate frustration, but in a quick
36:03
second. So I don't let it, you know,
36:06
carry it, continue the negative thoughts or energy continue.
36:10
So if I have those days where I find it hard for me to stay calm
36:15
and I need to let it out in in frustration to myself, I would
36:20
only give myself like a minute or a certain second before I go
36:25
to my next shot. So the walk between shots will
36:28
be my way of letting whatever frustration and then as soon as
36:33
I get to my next shot, that's it.
36:35
Then you have to then let it go because if you keep that
36:38
negative energy throughout your round, you're wasting so of.
36:42
Course you. Are, and don't, don't get me
36:44
wrong, I've had rounds where I did did keep that negative
36:48
energy throughout that round and I saw the, the not benefits of
36:53
having that energy going through, but it's, it's hard,
36:57
it's hard to train and it's and I just, you just go to prepare
37:00
yourself during the day. So let's say like when you wake
37:03
up, you don't rush. If you rush things, then you
37:06
rush throughout your whole day and whatever you do.
37:09
So I always try to start my day calm, do your bed and do your
37:14
meditation, do your stretching, do things slowly and calmly
37:17
because that really does affect your whole day throughout.
37:21
If I rush or if I put the lamb on, snooze and snooze and snooze
37:25
and then I rush my day, I always have an average or bad round,
37:29
never a good round. So yeah, how you start your day
37:32
is so important for me. Because it kind of almost, that
37:35
builds up clutter then that hits your mind, doesn't it?
37:37
Throughout the day, then, yeah. No, definitely.
37:38
It really does. And yeah, if you have clutter in
37:42
anything that you do, if you have clutter in your head and
37:44
not not a clear understanding of what you want to do, you, you're
37:48
not really gonna start your day well.
37:49
No, absolutely. No, end it.
37:51
Well, you. Mentioned about obviously
37:53
releasing energy between holes and that I mean how easy is
37:56
that? Because obviously you're you're
37:58
a in a public place you've got eyes on you cameras on you,
38:01
potentially your opponent watching you yeah.
38:03
How do you kind of manage that then?
38:05
Well. I I do it verbally to myself.
38:09
It doesn't have to be said out loud.
38:12
It's mostly all in my head. I might have like a little
38:15
mumble film, but nothing, nothing where it's out loud.
38:21
And yeah, so I try to control it all in my head so no one really
38:26
knows what's going on. So I have a poker face.
38:29
Sometimes I would put sunglasses back on.
38:32
No one could really see what I'm feeling.
38:35
But yeah, that's how I I do it anyway.
38:37
I try to keep it in a closed box, but there are times where I
38:41
don't and I put my hands up. There are times where I did want
38:44
to throw my club, but I just drop my club.
38:46
I would just let go. If I have the feeling of that I
38:49
want to throw that club, just drop it.
38:51
I just drop it. Yeah.
38:52
So that's the only thing that you would really see me do is if
38:55
I drop my club or whatever. That's just me like OK, Talia,
38:58
you need. And that's an indicator for your
39:00
mum as well, isn't it? Yeah.
39:02
Yes, I guess. In a bunch of that food I guess.
39:05
Keep quiet, yeah? Yeah, yeah.
39:07
And just picked up the club. And just walking.
39:11
So how do you city, how do you deal with that?
39:13
If you see that Talia's perhaps suffering emotionally or there's
39:17
there's she's not aligned as she should be.
39:19
What how do you kind of, you know, play that and then with
39:21
with, do you step in at that point or do you allow her to
39:24
sort of express herself privately and then.
39:26
I just allow her her to express what she fear and everything
39:30
because I don't want to interfere because when the
39:34
situation if I'm interfere, maybe she's more irritated and I
39:39
just let it go, watch it and then just keep little bit
39:43
distant just walking. And after that, because she's
39:47
very good, she just not long after she just let it go and
39:53
then she can come back, then become normal.
39:57
Yeah, but there are days where sometimes when I hit a bad shot,
40:01
I laugh. It's really weird.
40:03
I sometimes go, oh, OK, it went there.
40:05
Right, time to get the wedge. Yeah, Yeah.
40:08
So you kind of, that's another way of just expressing the
40:10
energy, isn't it? I try and make it as a comedy.
40:13
Yeah, to be honest, yeah, because.
40:14
If you don't laugh at yourself then.
40:16
That's it. Plus it throws your opponent off
40:18
as well. Makes my mum laugh.
40:21
That's right. Yeah, exactly the.
40:23
Gold is like the score. You know you can have like
40:27
double boogie, let's say 1 hole and then we can catch up.
40:31
You know you can get birdie or something not.
40:34
The end of the. End of World.
40:36
That's why you need to keep calm all the time.
40:39
If it's but with Talia, just watch.
40:42
If she rushed everything, no, it's not good.
40:46
Yeah, yeah, that's why I just make her slowing down.
40:49
Yeah, take time, yeah. Take time.
40:51
Yeah, which makes sense, right? A couple of minutes left.
40:53
This show goes so fast, we could carry for another hour.
40:57
So plans for 2026? You're off travelling again?
41:01
Yeah, I say that travelling is not obviously a leisure travel,
41:04
it's for professional purposes. So tell us about how this year
41:07
will start to pan out for you. Yeah, so the first part of the
41:09
year, Indonesia open, yes, we'll be leaving on the 15th, going to
41:15
Indonesia as there's a woman's open there and we want to
41:19
support that. My mum's from Indonesia, so this
41:22
is like special when we get to visit family and everything.
41:25
And also my family from Indonesia can actually watch me
41:30
professional job. So it's a special moment.
41:32
And yeah. And then after that we'll go to
41:35
South Africa to do the Sunshine Tour because I love that tour.
41:39
It's really good. And it's it just helps you ease
41:42
into the season. And then the First Ladies
41:46
European Tour event will be in again, South Africa, one in
41:50
Joburg, one in Cape Town and then finish off in Mauritius.
41:55
So all of that will start 15th of January and end around 5th of
41:59
May. So it's around 5:00-ish.
42:01
And that's their continue and you're continuously on the
42:03
travel that during that time or do you get a chance to come back
42:05
home? No continuous Wow.
42:07
Yeah, for for that. Time and is that the season or
42:09
will there be more action further?
42:11
Just the first part of the season and and then after that.
42:16
Home break, break for a week. A week after that, Germany.
42:20
And then, then it'll be in Europe.
42:22
Yeah. OK.
42:23
So yeah, so it was a exciting start and yeah, we look forward
42:26
to it. Fantastic, brilliant.
42:27
Well wish you all the best with that and we'll again continue to
42:31
watch you from this show. Watch from afar and cheer you,
42:34
cheer you on and again wish you continued success and hopefully
42:37
more trophy wins this year. Hopefully we'll be back.
42:40
Maybe, maybe, maybe the Indonesian one.
42:42
Yeah, that's the one you want, isn't it?
42:45
Fantastic. And do keep in touch.
42:47
And obviously we have the headlines at the start of the
42:50
show. So yeah, any updates, any news
42:52
you want to share with the world, we're happy to do.
42:54
That, no, we will do. Fantastic and Happy New Year to
42:57
you both too. Yes, you too.
42:58
Thank you. Nice.
42:59
Thank you very much, Sir. As always, thank you for your
43:01
company and the headlines this week.
43:03
And thank you too for listening in and joining us for our new
43:06
show in 2026. And we'll continue throughout
43:10
the year as always, trying to get bigger and better as always.
43:13
So have a great week and we'll be back again.
43:16
Same time, same place next week on the PCR Sports Show.
43:18
Take care, bye for now.