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- 0:00Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.
- 0:03Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know
- 0:08Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to
- 0:16Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant,
- 0:19Speaker 1: and this is Stuff you Should Know Episode three. Well,
- 0:25Speaker 1: I'm saying it is so now it's episode episode three
- 0:29Speaker 1: something three niner eight or that's good, Josh? Is that
- 0:35Speaker 1: your intro? Rocking and a rolling, splihing in the splashing
- 0:39Speaker 1: over the horizon? What could it be? Look like it's
- 0:42Speaker 1: gonna be a new country? Do you remember that one? Now?
- 0:46Speaker 1: What are you talking about? That idea? That was the
- 0:50Speaker 1: the schoolhouse rock for the Mayflower Voyage? Really rocking in
- 0:55Speaker 1: a roll and splashing in the splash, and you remember
- 0:57Speaker 1: that good coming over the horizon? What could it be?
- 1:01Speaker 1: Look like it's going to be a free country or
- 1:05Speaker 1: new country? Either way, it was both new and probably
- 1:08Speaker 1: knew because it was not free for everybody. That's true.
- 1:13Speaker 1: So you're talking about this because we're going to talk
- 1:15Speaker 1: about the first murderer? Right yeah? And before we start,
- 1:19Speaker 1: I want to ask why has no one ever made
- 1:21Speaker 1: a modern film about the Mayflower Voyage. It seems like
- 1:25Speaker 1: a no brainer, you know. Yeah, I don't know, especially
- 1:28Speaker 1: after gotting around to you yet. Like the awesomeness of
- 1:31Speaker 1: Master and Commander. Did you ever see that, the one
- 1:33Speaker 1: with um Russell Crowe? Yeah, it was very good, surprisingly good. Yeah,
- 1:37Speaker 1: it surprised me too. Actually, I didn't get the colon.
- 1:40Speaker 1: It made it sound like it was a franchise, but
- 1:42Speaker 1: it was like the first of the franchise. It wasn't like, Oh,
- 1:45Speaker 1: I guess, I guess parts of the Caribbean did have
- 1:48Speaker 1: a call in the first one, didn't it. I don't know. Huh.
- 1:51Speaker 1: But Master, that was Peter we Are Master and Commander,
- 1:53Speaker 1: So it makes sense that it was awesome because he's
- 1:55Speaker 1: such a great director and related to bobwe right, I think, really,
- 2:00Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think so. I've always suspected.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Did he do the Treaman show? Uh? That was written
- 2:08Speaker 1: by we did Gattica. I don't know who directed that.
- 2:12Speaker 1: That might have been Peter Weir, but he did Gallipoly
- 2:15Speaker 1: and U like scores of great movies. Well cool, Well,
- 2:19Speaker 1: thank you for joining us at this discussion of Peter
- 2:21Speaker 1: Weird's films. He should direct the Mayflier movie was what
- 2:24Speaker 1: I'm saying. For goodness sakes, Okay, they need to do
- 2:27Speaker 1: it like a realistic because you know, when you learned
- 2:29Speaker 1: about it in school at least I did. I thought,
- 2:32Speaker 1: you know, you learned about it from Schoolhouse Rock, and
- 2:34Speaker 1: you get the picture. They sang songs and kind of
- 2:36Speaker 1: rock and rolled over the ocean and then ran into
- 2:39Speaker 1: Plymouth rock and shared Thanksgiving with the Indians, and they
- 2:42Speaker 1: need to make a real movie about how it really was. Well, yeah,
- 2:45Speaker 1: because you know, that whole Schoolhouse Rock impression is pretty
- 2:49Speaker 1: widely held even among adults, educated adults. And the reason
- 2:54Speaker 1: why is because there's a very small amount of firsthand
- 2:57Speaker 1: information that left Plymouth call any right um and was
- 3:03Speaker 1: allowed to stand. There was a small group of people
- 3:05Speaker 1: who were controlling all of the info about that place,
- 3:10Speaker 1: and they were trying to paint it in as good
- 3:11Speaker 1: as light as possible because they were trying to attract investors.
- 3:15Speaker 1: And these firsthand accounts that you know, basically painted the
- 3:19Speaker 1: Puritans as you know, these hard scrapple people who were
- 3:24Speaker 1: um guided by a divine hand in the wilderness. Has
- 3:28Speaker 1: stood all these centuries hard scrapple. So let's talk about
- 3:34Speaker 1: let's talk about the Pilgrims the voyage, right, They landed
- 3:37Speaker 1: in sixty just as a quick primer um. And they
- 3:44Speaker 1: were Pilgrims. They were Puritans separatists, as they were often called.
- 3:49Speaker 1: They were people who were so pious that no one
- 3:52Speaker 1: in all of Europe was pious enough to contend with them.
- 3:56Speaker 1: And they were like, I'm sick of all you sinners.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Were going to go found a new um, a new
- 4:01Speaker 1: republic in the in the name and for the glory
- 4:04Speaker 1: of God, and we're going to be really, really good,
- 4:07Speaker 1: and we're going to do it in the new world.
- 4:10Speaker 1: And that that's what they did. They sailed over to
- 4:12Speaker 1: Massachusetts and landed in Plymouth, as it turns out, nice
- 4:15Speaker 1: place to land, I imagine. And uh, welch, I mean,
- 4:20Speaker 1: are we going to get to the murder a guy
- 4:21Speaker 1: right away or should we just ease into that. Well,
- 4:24Speaker 1: let's talk about who was there. It wasn't just Puritans,
- 4:27Speaker 1: it wasn't just separatists. There's a whole other group of
- 4:29Speaker 1: people who don't get talked about a lot. Uh. And
- 4:32Speaker 1: they were called the strangers. Yeah, that sounded really creepy
- 4:34Speaker 1: when I read it. For some reason, I think it
- 4:36Speaker 1: sounds cool. I think it sounds creepy. Like they look
- 4:38Speaker 1: like they should have been dressed in like like the
- 4:41Speaker 1: pilgrim black, like with why brim hats that you can't
- 4:44Speaker 1: see their eyes. Yeah, what was the deal with them?
- 4:46Speaker 1: Were they Catholic? They were anything but the separatists of
- 4:49Speaker 1: the Puritans. So they were Catholics, They were sailors, they
- 4:54Speaker 1: were um Africans, they were whoever kidnapped Indians. I don't
- 5:00Speaker 1: know if all those people were on the main Flower,
- 5:02Speaker 1: but there it was. There was a bunch of people,
- 5:06Speaker 1: you know, I got them over there. He went with them.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And the Puritans were pretty rigid. Obviously they didn't like
- 5:11Speaker 1: Catholics at all. They were indeed extremely rigid. But to
- 5:16Speaker 1: this degree is we'll see, um. They they they found
- 5:21Speaker 1: that like, no nobody's this rigid. And there were a
- 5:23Speaker 1: lot of strangers who broke a lot of laws. But um,
- 5:26Speaker 1: there are a lot of Puritans who did too, um
- 5:29Speaker 1: and they just kind of glossed it over. They kept records,
- 5:32Speaker 1: but these things just didn't get promoted. Right. Yeah, Mort's relation. Yes,
- 5:37Speaker 1: so you're talking about mort relation. Written in sixteen twenty
- 5:41Speaker 1: two by William Bradford, who was clearly the governor, longtime
- 5:45Speaker 1: governor of Plymouth. His cousin George Morton wrote he was
- 5:49Speaker 1: a separatist and he wrote this book or an account,
- 5:52Speaker 1: and that was that sort of looked at as the
- 5:55Speaker 1: account of Plymouth. But as it turns out, as you
- 5:58Speaker 1: point out, because you wrote this um works relation was
- 6:00Speaker 1: written to attract funding, right for Plymouth. So it was
- 6:04Speaker 1: basically like a lengthy, in depth brochure to attract investors.
- 6:10Speaker 1: And what are you going to say. You're not going
- 6:11Speaker 1: to say, we're starving to death over here, we're having
- 6:15Speaker 1: a really hard time, we're probably not going to make it.
- 6:17Speaker 1: People are committing bestiality, yes, buggery is what they call
- 6:20Speaker 1: the huh And we'll get to that and then okay, um,
- 6:24Speaker 1: And they're not going to say this. They're going to
- 6:26Speaker 1: say things are great, we're really you know, living and
- 6:30Speaker 1: by God's will, we're really just making it over here,
- 6:34Speaker 1: and we need some more money. Yeah. Yeah, so that
- 6:38Speaker 1: means take take it with a grain of salt. They
- 6:41Speaker 1: but they didn't just pretend like the strangers weren't there,
- 6:43Speaker 1: but they painted some of the strangers in possibly less
- 6:46Speaker 1: than flattering light, right, Yeah, I mean, are we at
- 6:50Speaker 1: the Billington's Inn, might as well be the Billington's the family,
- 6:53Speaker 1: John Billington's, his wife um eleanor his son's little John
- 6:58Speaker 1: John Jr. And Francis who was a boy his other son.
- 7:04Speaker 1: They were sort of painted as like reading your reading
- 7:10Speaker 1: your article. They sort of seem like, on one hand,
- 7:13Speaker 1: like the first white trash, you know, that's one way
- 7:17Speaker 1: to put it, and then they also sort of seem like, no,
- 7:20Speaker 1: you know, they might have been kind of cool and
- 7:22Speaker 1: just rabble rousers. Yeah, or yes, I think that that's
- 7:27Speaker 1: very accurate. But they definitely weren't any friends of Bradford
- 7:30Speaker 1: that he did not like these people. No, he didn't.
- 7:32Speaker 1: He called um He wrote in a letter to a
- 7:35Speaker 1: Mr Cushing I believe uh that who had some sort
- 7:40Speaker 1: of authority I guess in the over the colony in
- 7:44Speaker 1: back in England. But he basically says that Billington's still
- 7:48Speaker 1: rails against you and that he's a nave, which means
- 7:51Speaker 1: a scoundrel, and he'll always be a nave. He'll live
- 7:54Speaker 1: and dies so and and as so he'll live and die. Yeah,
- 7:58Speaker 1: that was Cushman. By the way, they cute same thing.
- 8:01Speaker 1: And uh he also said he quote he said they
- 8:03Speaker 1: were one of the profanest families to come to the colony.
- 8:07Speaker 1: And it wasn't just John, I mean they didn't. He
- 8:10Speaker 1: didn't like any of them. His kids were a bit
- 8:13Speaker 1: of a handful too, well, one of them. It doesn't
- 8:15Speaker 1: say who in the records, but on the way over,
- 8:18Speaker 1: Um decided that he was going to shoot off his
- 8:21Speaker 1: father's musket, right gun in a cabin filled with people,
- 8:27Speaker 1: which is bad enough, but he did it right next
- 8:30Speaker 1: to a open, half filled keg of gunpowder, right, so
- 8:36Speaker 1: he almost just blew the whole Mayflower up and history
- 8:39Speaker 1: would have changed forever probably. So that was the first
- 8:42Speaker 1: thing that happened with the Billington's and the rest of
- 8:44Speaker 1: the people on the Mayflower. Yes, no, actually it wasn't.
- 8:48Speaker 1: There was part. There was a mutiny that John Billington's,
- 8:52Speaker 1: the father was involved in Um and he was he
- 8:57Speaker 1: was let off the hook because it was his first offense.
- 9:00Speaker 1: But he uh he that that started. Tensions were already high.
- 9:05Speaker 1: And then one of his sons, either Francis or John Jr.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Shot off the gun in the camp. So you start
- 9:11Speaker 1: to get an impression of this family, especially when you
- 9:14Speaker 1: look at you know when you think of them bristling,
- 9:18Speaker 1: not just the average persons, you know, right, ire, Yeah, yeah,
- 9:22Speaker 1: but a puritan's hire, right, because you can screw up
- 9:28Speaker 1: like innumerable ways in the eyes of a Puritan, especially
- 9:31Speaker 1: if you're not a Puritan, That's right. And then once
- 9:34Speaker 1: they got to the New World, Uh, they continue their shenanigans.
- 9:38Speaker 1: John Jr. Kind of wandered off one day twenty miles
- 9:42Speaker 1: worth and wandered into a Native American village, and then
- 9:47Speaker 1: he was taken to another village by those Native Americans.
- 9:50Speaker 1: And eventually they sent out a group to go find
- 9:52Speaker 1: him and took him a little while they set sail,
- 9:54Speaker 1: actually ended up on Cape Cod what is now Cape
- 9:56Speaker 1: Cod and uh said, you know you're gonna have to
- 10:00Speaker 1: come back, yes, And they found him because of Massa Swat,
- 10:06Speaker 1: who was the great statum of the Wappanoag Wapag. Yeah,
- 10:12Speaker 1: well panel Wag or get an email for that one
- 10:15Speaker 1: um who was involved in the first Thanksgiving with these
- 10:20Speaker 1: same people. So he might have had something to do
- 10:22Speaker 1: with that, then, Uh, well he did. He was already
- 10:24Speaker 1: like he he basically was um trying to use the
- 10:29Speaker 1: Englishman against his rivals. I think the Abenaki um to
- 10:37Speaker 1: basically run them out rather than consolidate with the other
- 10:40Speaker 1: Indians against the English, and basically that turned over the
- 10:45Speaker 1: whole continent to Europe. Like that one act is largely
- 10:48Speaker 1: considered as the the turning point. So he was already
- 10:51Speaker 1: pals with him, um and uh so he helped him
- 10:55Speaker 1: find the boy. And if you're from Plymouth, if you
- 10:57Speaker 1: live in the Plymouth area, then you might know Billington see,
- 11:01Speaker 1: which is a pond and that's name for John Jr. Yeah,
- 11:04Speaker 1: who wandered off right. Yeah, I think that he might
- 11:07Speaker 1: have found that. I mean, you know, he discovered the pond,
- 11:09Speaker 1: but he may have discovered it on his wander right,
- 11:12Speaker 1: his sojourn. Yeah, but they found him and he was
- 11:16Speaker 1: quote be hung with beads. So apparently they you know,
- 11:20Speaker 1: kind of adopted him a little bit like he was
- 11:22Speaker 1: the mascot and yeah, and then they gave him back. Yeah,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and then the I think that the colonists gave the
- 11:29Speaker 1: Indians and a couple of knives and said thanks and
- 11:33Speaker 1: went back to Plymouth, thanks for the beads and the guy.
- 11:35Speaker 1: But you have to imagine that mounting a ten man
- 11:38Speaker 1: sailing expedition into Indian country. Um, because your kid wandered off,
- 11:44Speaker 1: it's gonna you're gonna You're gonna rub the back of
- 11:46Speaker 1: your neck and be like a lot. Uh yeah, you know,
- 11:49Speaker 1: if you're a Billington and she like, thanks for getting
- 11:52Speaker 1: my kids back, you know, can I do I owe
- 11:55Speaker 1: you anything? Or you know? Not so though, because Billington
- 12:00Speaker 1: uh had a bad reputation and that he scoffed at
- 12:03Speaker 1: Captain Miles Standish and you don't scoff at Standish Miles
- 12:06Speaker 1: Standish proud Miles Standard was trying to get people to
- 12:09Speaker 1: uh to you know, serve in the military, and Bill
- 12:12Speaker 1: and was like, no, dude, I'm not doing that. He
- 12:15Speaker 1: was a part of anti government groups. Government subversion, well
- 12:18Speaker 1: there was in sixty four there was called what's called
- 12:21Speaker 1: the Old woman Lyford Conspiracy. That was the name of
- 12:25Speaker 1: the two main conspirators. He was named as a co conspirator.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And reading his history and then this, you know, the
- 12:31Speaker 1: the actual history of this conspiracy, which is a lot
- 12:33Speaker 1: of secret meetings about how they should overthrow this Puritan
- 12:38Speaker 1: regime and start governing this colony the right way. Um,
- 12:43Speaker 1: he was probably a part of it, but he denied
- 12:45Speaker 1: it and and was let off the hook again. Well,
- 12:48Speaker 1: and he he was also apologized for the UM for
- 12:51Speaker 1: standing up against Standish, and they said they threatened him
- 12:55Speaker 1: with hog tyme, which can actually kill you. I didn't
- 12:58Speaker 1: realize that I could see that could what you're all
- 13:00Speaker 1: your weights on your chest right, Well, it's they tie
- 13:03Speaker 1: your legs together, they tie your arms behind your back,
- 13:05Speaker 1: and then they tie your ankles to your neck around
- 13:09Speaker 1: your neck. What So, unless you stay completely arched like that,
- 13:14Speaker 1: you're gonna start cutting off circulation. Like it's a form
- 13:17Speaker 1: of torture. It's not just how we're gonna tie you up. Well,
- 13:20Speaker 1: the that whole second step has been kind of lost
- 13:23Speaker 1: to history as I understand it. Well, now is it
- 13:26Speaker 1: just tying the hands and tie your your hands and
- 13:30Speaker 1: your ankles, your wrists and your ankles together behind your back,
- 13:33Speaker 1: And yeah, you're arched, but I don't know anything about
- 13:36Speaker 1: tying the ankles around that. That's horrible. Apparently the old
- 13:39Speaker 1: hog tie is a little more brutal. Yeah, which makes
- 13:41Speaker 1: total sense. Which also makes sense why he's described as
- 13:44Speaker 1: basically like pleading for mercy not to have that happened
- 13:47Speaker 1: to him, and which is why they let him go. Yeah,
- 13:49Speaker 1: Miles Stands is like, all right, but get out of
- 13:51Speaker 1: my sight Billington, And I mean, like there's really there's
- 13:56Speaker 1: there's we can't forget. We can't leave out the fact
- 14:00Speaker 1: that these people were original Plymouth colonists, Like they were
- 14:03Speaker 1: the first he's on the charter, the first European, the
- 14:06Speaker 1: first English European Americans, and the first what would become
- 14:10Speaker 1: one of the first states of America. Like, these are
- 14:13Speaker 1: important people, no matter what their reputations are. He was
- 14:16Speaker 1: the signer of the Mayflower Compact, which is the first
- 14:20Speaker 1: um European based governing law. I guess you would call
- 14:26Speaker 1: it of laws um. And he was he was. He
- 14:31Speaker 1: helped Hugh the colony out of the wilderness. He was
- 14:34Speaker 1: one of the colonists, right, yeah. And there's a pdf
- 14:36Speaker 1: online I found that traces his family tree and apparently
- 14:40Speaker 1: James Garfield, the President, was a descendant of Billington and
- 14:44Speaker 1: it I mean, if you're I wish I would have
- 14:46Speaker 1: written down some of the last names. I know Witten
- 14:48Speaker 1: was one of them, but I mean there are people
- 14:50Speaker 1: that have said, like still alive today, Oh yeah, there's
- 14:54Speaker 1: an apparently I remember researching this. I couldn't find it
- 14:56Speaker 1: when I reresearched for this podcast. But there's like a
- 14:59Speaker 1: whole up of people who are into that kind of thing.
- 15:01Speaker 1: We're proudly ancestors of Billington's this rabble rous of the
- 15:06Speaker 1: first like real troublemaker in America. Well, people are proud
- 15:09Speaker 1: period just to be descendants of the Plymouth colonists for sure.
- 15:13Speaker 1: So um, but you you, I hopefully everybody has like
- 15:17Speaker 1: kind of an idea of how Billington and his family
- 15:20Speaker 1: were regarded. Right, Well, we didn't get to his wife
- 15:23Speaker 1: and daughter. I know that was after what he could.
- 15:25Speaker 1: His wife was Eleanor was locked in the stocks and
- 15:29Speaker 1: whipped at one point. She was also had to pay
- 15:33Speaker 1: fines of five pounds sterling because she was found guilty
- 15:36Speaker 1: of slandering her neighbors. And his granddaughter Dorcas. I love that.
- 15:43Speaker 1: There's only one way to pronounce that, right, yeah, d
- 15:46Speaker 1: O r c As. I'm gonna bring that one back.
- 15:50Speaker 1: If I ever had a daughter, she's gonna be Dorcas Bryant. Uh.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Dorcas apparently was sentenced to whipping because she um had
- 15:58Speaker 1: sexual intercourse. She was twenty two years old, and he
- 16:01Speaker 1: didn't do that. So um, yeah, the whole family was
- 16:05Speaker 1: definitely not. They didn't fall in line with with the
- 16:07Speaker 1: rest of the crowd. Although that's that's not true because
- 16:10Speaker 1: a lot of the rest of the crowd was doing
- 16:11Speaker 1: even worse things. As it turns out, you just didn't
- 16:14Speaker 1: read it in the brochure, right, So can we talk
- 16:18Speaker 1: about some of the stuff that people were doing please? Okay.
- 16:21Speaker 1: So remember by there's still only seven and fifty five
- 16:25Speaker 1: people in Ploymouth Colony. Okay, so this this stuff is
- 16:31Speaker 1: happening like twenty fifty years before that the way fewer people.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And yet there were incidents where people like Thomas Granger,
- 16:41Speaker 1: who was a servant UM was indicted for buggery which
- 16:45Speaker 1: we established before it was beastiality with a mayor, a cow,
- 16:50Speaker 1: two goats, diverse sheep, two calves, and a turkey he
- 16:56Speaker 1: fell in love with. He he was sentenced to hang
- 17:00Speaker 1: by Um are sentenced to die by hanging John Walker
- 17:04Speaker 1: the next year turkey he yes, um, he was. He
- 17:10Speaker 1: laid with a bitch as it's uh put and of
- 17:12Speaker 1: course we mean the the well the pilgrims meant the dog,
- 17:16Speaker 1: the female dog. Um. Another guy was was he was
- 17:23Speaker 1: held on suspicion of buggery with the beast. Another guy
- 17:28Speaker 1: had buggery with the mayor, and it just keeps going
- 17:30Speaker 1: on and going on. So basically somebody would get caught
- 17:33Speaker 1: sleeping with a dog and would be whipped, put into
- 17:37Speaker 1: the stocks, pilloried, um, and it was just recorded but
- 17:42Speaker 1: never talked about. Yeah, there was also rape in sodomy
- 17:44Speaker 1: against humans. Yeah. The the way they put sodomy was
- 17:48Speaker 1: that they were um. These John Alexander and Thomas Roberts
- 17:52Speaker 1: back in sixty seven were caught um and they got
- 17:57Speaker 1: the hot irons, which wow, is that's rough. So you
- 18:01Speaker 1: hear about this stuff and you think Dorcas doing you know,
- 18:05Speaker 1: sleeping with a man, I presume is a very normal
- 18:08Speaker 1: thing for twenty two year old middle aged woman to do.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Right at the time. Yes, she's not, she's not laying
- 18:15Speaker 1: down with the turkeys. No, so Eleanor got put in
- 18:19Speaker 1: the stocks for slander, right, Yeah, there's no recording of
- 18:22Speaker 1: what she said or basically we've reached this point here
- 18:25Speaker 1: where we should probably talk about what John Billington did. Okay,
- 18:29Speaker 1: because now that we debunk the fact that not everyone
- 18:32Speaker 1: was super pure and you can't necessarily read uh Mort's
- 18:37Speaker 1: relation and the brochure and say, you know, everything was
- 18:41Speaker 1: just hunky dory over there. This maybe actually, maybe this
- 18:43Speaker 1: is why the movie hasn't been made because he wants
- 18:45Speaker 1: to see a guy sleeping with the turkey. I don't know.
- 18:48Speaker 1: I think there's a market that you paid a lot
- 18:51Speaker 1: for it. You know, it's a market for that, but
- 18:53Speaker 1: it's not the box office grossing record breaking numbers. Peter
- 18:57Speaker 1: Weir wouldn't touchdown or not what the didn' football? So, um,
- 19:01Speaker 1: we should probably talk about how Billington became America's first murderer.
- 19:05Speaker 1: It took it took place what ten years after he
- 19:08Speaker 1: got there, So you have to think, like, this guy's
- 19:11Speaker 1: an original settler and he's been farming and hewing an
- 19:14Speaker 1: existence out for himself and other people. And as a
- 19:18Speaker 1: h an original Mayflower compact signer, he got a bunch
- 19:22Speaker 1: of land parcel to him, like this is probably ten's
- 19:25Speaker 1: land now. So but while he made an enemy, clearly
- 19:29Speaker 1: one real enemy. He made quite a few, Bradford being
- 19:31Speaker 1: one of them. But he made one enemy named John Newcomen,
- 19:35Speaker 1: who was a newcomer as it turns out, to Plymouth. Um,
- 19:39Speaker 1: he hadn't been there for ten years and it seems
- 19:42Speaker 1: like history is a little sketchy because, like you said,
- 19:45Speaker 1: it's not all like recorded at that point. But one
- 19:50Speaker 1: thing I read was that it was possibly over hunting rights,
- 19:54Speaker 1: and I don't know how true that is. It is true,
- 19:57Speaker 1: it is, Yeah, there there's I When I was going
- 20:00Speaker 1: back and um reading the the source material for this,
- 20:05Speaker 1: I'm like, why did I Why was I so vague
- 20:08Speaker 1: when I wrote this article? Because it did that confirm?
- 20:11Speaker 1: Did it confirm that? Yeah? Well so in the Bradford's
- 20:15Speaker 1: version basically is like this, he wayed at Billingtons Waylade Newcoming,
- 20:19Speaker 1: which we should explain what waylate is. Waylade is like
- 20:22Speaker 1: basically lying in wait and then murdering, like hiding in
- 20:25Speaker 1: the bush. It premeditated. It's huge if you read a
- 20:31Speaker 1: stranger's account. There's an account by a stranger and I
- 20:33Speaker 1: don't know who. Um it's not in this, not in
- 20:36Speaker 1: the source I cited, but um it's It talks about
- 20:40Speaker 1: how Newcoming was already known to Billington's because he um
- 20:45Speaker 1: he used to steal from Billington's traps, he poached on
- 20:48Speaker 1: his land and um Billington had chased the kid off
- 20:51Speaker 1: a bunch of times newcomers seventeen at the time. He
- 20:54Speaker 1: was a little jerk basically, and he was what the
- 20:57Speaker 1: strangers called a saint, which meant you were in good
- 21:00Speaker 1: with Bradford because you're a Puritan, and compared to a stranger,
- 21:03Speaker 1: you had exponentially more rights and you got away with
- 21:06Speaker 1: exponentially more stuff. Okay, So here's Billington, who already has
- 21:11Speaker 1: a bad reputation, and there's some little seventeen year old
- 21:13Speaker 1: punk kid stealing from his traps who's chased off time
- 21:17Speaker 1: and time and time again, and um, he catches him there.
- 21:21Speaker 1: So he goes after him with his gun, and the
- 21:24Speaker 1: kid goes and hides behind a tree, and Billington shoots
- 21:27Speaker 1: at the tree. I don't know if he meant to
- 21:31Speaker 1: shoot at the kid. Apparently he's a pretty good marks mint,
- 21:35Speaker 1: but he hit the kid in the shoulder, not exactly
- 21:37Speaker 1: a lethal shot. Today. Well, the kid died in like
- 21:41Speaker 1: three days of an infection. That's how the America's first
- 21:46Speaker 1: murder took place. And it was apparently with a blunderbuss.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of these guns? Is that the
- 21:51Speaker 1: one with the big sort of like pilgrim hunting with yeah,
- 21:56Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, it's not like an elephant gun,
- 21:57Speaker 1: but if it does flare out at the end, and
- 21:59Speaker 1: it's sort of, um, what would be considered today, it's
- 22:02Speaker 1: sort of like a sawed off shotgun. So like it
- 22:05Speaker 1: was a musket, but it was short and flared, and
- 22:08Speaker 1: so I imagine it it had a wider spray, even
- 22:13Speaker 1: though it wasn't well it wouldn't be a spray because
- 22:15Speaker 1: they didn't use pellets, but they compared it to a
- 22:18Speaker 1: sawed off shotgun. And what I read hand on the
- 22:20Speaker 1: pump exactly. So, um, that's how the first murder took place.
- 22:25Speaker 1: I get the impression. Billington, who was also um described
- 22:29Speaker 1: as um beloved by many in another account by a
- 22:34Speaker 1: stranger kind of a satirical take on Plymouth colony. Yeah,
- 22:38Speaker 1: Thomas Morton in the New English Canaan said that he
- 22:42Speaker 1: was a beloved dude. He was beloved by many. Basically,
- 22:45Speaker 1: if you were a stranger, you probably like Billington's He
- 22:48Speaker 1: sounded like a kind of a fun guy to be honest.
- 22:51Speaker 1: I know he's the first murderer, but he's a rebbel
- 22:54Speaker 1: rouser that's into associate with those types. Well, Billington thinks
- 22:58Speaker 1: that because of the um, the fact that they need people,
- 23:03Speaker 1: they're still each individual is very important. UM. And that
- 23:07Speaker 1: this kid had been really it was the kid's fault
- 23:10Speaker 1: that he was on his property. Billington and warned him,
- 23:13Speaker 1: all warned him all that he would he would be
- 23:15Speaker 1: spared his life. Well, no, Governor Bradford himself was the
- 23:19Speaker 1: one who ordered him to death, and he didn't like
- 23:21Speaker 1: him to begin with. So right, So this is um
- 23:24Speaker 1: what you could call unfair to a certain extent perhaps.
- 23:29Speaker 1: And not only did Bradford sentence his longtime enemy or
- 23:32Speaker 1: somebody he disdained for many years to death, he was
- 23:36Speaker 1: also the one who literally wrote the history. In addition
- 23:40Speaker 1: to what is it Morts what mort retort? Uh? Not
- 23:45Speaker 1: Mort's retort? I was kidding most mort relation, Okay. So
- 23:48Speaker 1: in addition to Morts relation, the other probably largest cited
- 23:53Speaker 1: um firsthand account of Plymouth plantation is called of Planmouth Plantation.
- 23:59Speaker 1: It's Bradford's own journal. So he literally wrote the history
- 24:03Speaker 1: for Plymouth. And of course he's going to paint it
- 24:07Speaker 1: in his He's gonna paint himself and his fellows in
- 24:11Speaker 1: the best light. And that's what we go on and
- 24:13Speaker 1: Billington in a poor light because he sent him the hang.
- 24:16Speaker 1: So I think if anything, this um was the episode
- 24:23Speaker 1: intended to tell you to always take historical accounts of
- 24:29Speaker 1: the Green Stall, especially the old ones. There's always two
- 24:31Speaker 1: sides to every story, and the three stooges actually get
- 24:36Speaker 1: better as you age stuff. You should know you got
- 24:39Speaker 1: anything else. Nope. If you want to learn more about
- 24:41Speaker 1: America's first murderer, type America's first murderer America. I'm gonna
- 24:47Speaker 1: have be trouble saying that. These days you can type
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- 24:51Speaker 1: but you're gonna get the best result if you type
- 24:53Speaker 1: it in the handy search bart how stuff works dot
- 24:55Speaker 1: com uh, and then of course brings up listener mail. Yes, Josh,
- 25:01Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this nicotine poisoning from Aaron. A couple
- 25:05Speaker 1: of years ago, guys who came home from university to
- 25:07Speaker 1: find my key, we roommate, working away in the kitchen.
- 25:10Speaker 1: He decided to bake brownies for the first time, and
- 25:13Speaker 1: I hurried upstairs to try some, because you want to
- 25:15Speaker 1: support his friend. Quickly, I was overwhelmed by a sour taste,
- 25:20Speaker 1: which was only mildly canceled out by the cherries which
- 25:22Speaker 1: were mixed in with the batter. It was very close
- 25:25Speaker 1: to spitting it out when my roommate walked in and said,
- 25:27Speaker 1: what do you think. I didn't want to insult them,
- 25:29Speaker 1: so I popped the rest of it in my mouth
- 25:30Speaker 1: and said I could use a little more sugar. I
- 25:33Speaker 1: left the room, and that's when everything got hazy. What
- 25:36Speaker 1: I do remember is my roommates bursting into my room.
- 25:39Speaker 1: This is crazy. They found me curled up into a
- 25:41Speaker 1: ball with my head between my knees, rocking slowly. I
- 25:44Speaker 1: was covered in sweat and muttering to myself, letting out
- 25:48Speaker 1: loud moans, which is apparently what alerted my roommates when
- 25:52Speaker 1: they opened the door. They flooded the room with light,
- 25:55Speaker 1: caused intense pain in my head and for some reason
- 25:59Speaker 1: in my stumm I not really thinking. I bolted to
- 26:02Speaker 1: the bathroom and induced vomiting trying to get all the
- 26:05Speaker 1: evil out of me. I was exhausted, laying on the
- 26:07Speaker 1: floor trying to figure out what was wrong. Apparently, there
- 26:11Speaker 1: were two boxes on the table, did you read this?
- 26:14Speaker 1: One one containing brownies and one with shisha tobacco destined
- 26:21Speaker 1: for the hookah that they kept in their house, Clark,
- 26:25Speaker 1: In my haste, I accidentally consumed about three ounces of
- 26:28Speaker 1: cherry tobacco mix that was destined for the hookah. I'm
- 26:31Speaker 1: not sure exactly how much nicotine my body absorbed in
- 26:34Speaker 1: the hour or so it was in me, but when
- 26:37Speaker 1: I stood up, I promptly passed out and, according to
- 26:40Speaker 1: my roommates, started convulsion on the floor. They wanted to
- 26:43Speaker 1: take me to the hospital, of course, but I refused,
- 26:46Speaker 1: being the bull headed midwesterner I sometimes can be, or
- 26:49Speaker 1: the college student who doesn't want to pay for that
- 26:51Speaker 1: kind of When I did go to the hospital the
- 26:55Speaker 1: next morning explain the situation to the e R Tech,
- 26:58Speaker 1: they immediately took my vital sin said I was lucky,
- 27:01Speaker 1: lucky to have survived without any serious complications, uh that
- 27:05Speaker 1: it very well could have been a fatal dose. And
- 27:08Speaker 1: all I can say is, if you're ever in the
- 27:10Speaker 1: same situation, air on the side of caution, called poison
- 27:13Speaker 1: control right away. And He's lucky that his roommates one
- 27:17Speaker 1: of them at e M T training because it could
- 27:19Speaker 1: have gone the other way. And Aaron might not be
- 27:21Speaker 1: a fan of our podcast today Man the eight who
- 27:25Speaker 1: gets tobacco pot it in his mouth and said it
- 27:27Speaker 1: needs a little more sugar. Wow. So okay. And if
- 27:31Speaker 1: you are a member of the Billington Clan by blood,
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