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The Kenny Report | 31 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Lone from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, Israel strikes back a day after taking out a
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  Speaker 2: leading Hesbalah terrorist, The leader of Hummas is killed in Iran.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have the latest on that, including reactions and repercussions.
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  Speaker 2: Inflation ticks up, the cost of living pressures continue in
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  Speaker 2: this country, and interest rates won't be going down anytime soon.
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  Speaker 2: The question is will they go up instead? Also, sharknets
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  Speaker 2: off Sydney beaches that are being pulled in early what
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  Speaker 2: are the risks.
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  Speaker 1: To swimmers and surfers.
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen joins me Zoey Mackenzie, Hannah Hollis live from
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  Speaker 2: Paris and the Wednesday Ranglong Life, the Universe and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get cracking. The big news today is the cost
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  Speaker 2: of living and the news that inflation is sticking around,
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  Speaker 2: so life is not about to get easy. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: inflation has ticked up again, from three point six percent
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  Speaker 2: to three point eight. That means interest rates will not
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  Speaker 2: be going down anytime soon, and the big question is
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  Speaker 2: whether they will actually go up again. When the Reserve
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  Speaker 2: Bank meets next week. The consensus seems to be that
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  Speaker 2: the bank won't increase rates next week, but others are
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  Speaker 2: not so sure.
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  Speaker 3: I personally think it's a line Boer corp. It'll be
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  Speaker 3: fascinating to see what happens. The risk of not raising
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  Speaker 3: rates is that if the tax cuts stimulate the economy,
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  Speaker 3: if the job's growth continues, the inflation starts to pick up,
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  Speaker 3: and of course it opens the risks that they have
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  Speaker 3: to do more than one or two, that they have
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  Speaker 3: to do three, four or five. Of course, what I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying is it opens the risk that they have to
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  Speaker 3: put the economy into recession.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah we will.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see pretty soon enough, I reckon. But incredibly the
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  Speaker 2: Treasurer Jim Charmers, who rightly says he should leave interest
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  Speaker 2: rate decisions to the Reserve Bank of Australia and not
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  Speaker 2: try to influence them, well, he seemed to break that
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  Speaker 2: rule today when he tweeted that today's figures show inflation
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  Speaker 2: is broadly in line with therba's forecast and that underlying
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  Speaker 2: inflation is continuing to moderate, which tells us the general
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  Speaker 2: direction of price pressures is downwards.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, even though.
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  Speaker 2: Inflation is going up, it's actually heading down and there's
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  Speaker 2: no reason to increase rates. He rejected suggestions he was
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  Speaker 2: dropping hints to the RBA.
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  Speaker 4: Our policies on energy bill relief, on cheaper early childhood education,
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  Speaker 4: and on rent assistance are actually putting downward pressure on
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  Speaker 4: prices in our economy, and that's not the opinion of
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  Speaker 4: the government. That's the facts are released today by the
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  Speaker 4: Australian Bureau of Stats.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's one way to spin it.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps a more factual assessment would be for me to
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  Speaker 2: say that Labour came to power promising to lower your
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  Speaker 2: cost of living, but your cost of living is still
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  Speaker 2: going up, and there's still a very real res that
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  Speaker 2: interest rates next week or a month or two later
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  Speaker 2: could still go up even further because inflation is still
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  Speaker 2: too high.
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  Speaker 5: This is homegrown inflation. This is Labour's homegrown inflation, inflicting
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  Speaker 5: pain on every Australian household. Australians are losing hope, They're
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  Speaker 5: increasingly demoralized. They cannot see a pathway back to the
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  Speaker 5: restoration of their standard of living.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have an economic assessment of all this in just
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  Speaker 2: a moment, including the.
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  Speaker 6: Crucial interest rate outlook.
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  Speaker 2: Just before I go on to some more serious news,
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  Speaker 2: I thought i'd show you how politics seems to have
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  Speaker 2: changed a tad now that Kamala Harris, the current Vice
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  Speaker 2: president of the USA no less, now looks set to
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  Speaker 2: be the Democrat candidate for the top job. Just have
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  Speaker 2: a look at this performance at a Harris political rally.
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  Speaker 7: Credy pleasant Yeah, yeah, Buddy Greeky prevent papy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's certainly a different tone, isn't it. And it's drawn
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  Speaker 2: some fire from conservatives and religious groups because the lyrics
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  Speaker 2: from this number by rapper Megan v. Stallion are pretty
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  Speaker 2: explicit relating to body parts and sexual acts. And the
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  Speaker 2: artist herself gave us a different kind of political endorsement.
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  Speaker 8: We are not to make history Prepiden Hoddy for Harry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you heard right.
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  Speaker 2: It's the hotties for Harris. US politics is the gift
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  Speaker 2: that just keeps giving, isn't it.
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  Speaker 9: Now?
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  Speaker 2: As Israel continues to come under attack and continues to
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  Speaker 2: defend its people, two leaders of Islamist extremist terrorist groups
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  Speaker 2: have been killed, one definitely by Israel, the other most
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  Speaker 2: likely the deadly hits, one in Lebanon and the other
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  Speaker 2: in Iran follow more deaths on Israeli's territories after the
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  Speaker 2: appalling attack on the goal.
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  Speaker 1: And heights on the weekend where twelve young people were
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  Speaker 1: killed on a soccer field.
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  Speaker 2: Israel defense forces were able to target the whereabouts of
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  Speaker 2: signor Hesbala terrorist Foald Shuka, who authorized that strike and
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of other rocket attacks on northern Israel. He was
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  Speaker 2: pinpointed in the Lebanese capital, Beirut and targeted.
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  Speaker 10: There'd been plenty of warnings, including Israeli warplanes flying over
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  Speaker 10: the Lebanese capital hours before this. Then a drone attack.
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  Speaker 10: Witnesses said they heard several targeted on a high rise block.
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  Speaker 1: That attack clearly came from Israel.
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  Speaker 2: They've made that clear, and they say that Shuka was
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  Speaker 2: the senior Hezbala military commander.
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  Speaker 1: But just a day after that, another.
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  Speaker 2: Terrorist leader, this time an even more significant figure, has
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  Speaker 2: been killed in Iran. The leader of Hamas Ismael Hanye
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  Speaker 2: was killed in Tehran, where he was attending the inauguration
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  Speaker 2: of the new Iranian president. There are reports that Hanya
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  Speaker 2: and a bodyguard were taken out by a precision guided missile,
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  Speaker 2: and Hamas has blamed Israel.
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  Speaker 11: Iran's revolutionary gods said Hania and one of his bodyguards
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  Speaker 11: were assassinated in the capital Tehran. In a statement, Hamas
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  Speaker 11: said he was killed in a treacherous Zionist raid on
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  Speaker 11: his residence in Tehran. Hania was in Iran to attend
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  Speaker 11: the swearing in ceremony for the country's new president. No
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  Speaker 11: one immediately claimed responsibility for the death, but Israel has
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  Speaker 11: vowed to kill Hania and other leaders of Hamas after
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  Speaker 11: the group attacked Israel on the seventh of October.
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  Speaker 2: Now, these are two crucial blows struck, most likely by
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  Speaker 2: Israel against the leadership of two evil Islamist extremist outfits.
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  Speaker 2: Both have killed hundreds of innocent Israelis in the past,
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  Speaker 2: and both are funded and supported by Iran. The repercussions
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  Speaker 2: will be significant, and in the short term there could
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  Speaker 2: be retaliation from these terror groups. But I just want
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  Speaker 2: to bring us this back to the ugly political debate
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  Speaker 2: really about the Middle East and the Israel that it
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  Speaker 2: plays out around the world and including here in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to remind you of the absolute horror
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  Speaker 2: of that Hesberalah rocket attack that killed twelve young people
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  Speaker 2: in Israel. They were from the Arab Druze community living
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  Speaker 2: in the Goal and Height. So warning this vision is distressing,
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  Speaker 2: but we have to show you the horror that people
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  Speaker 2: are living with in Israel.
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  Speaker 1: It's important to know about.
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  Speaker 2: And this new footage shows children playing and then what
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  Speaker 2: unfolded after the air raid.
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  Speaker 1: Sirens sounded.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just terrific stuff, and we edited that down to
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  Speaker 2: spare you the most traumatic footage. Remember that rocket hit
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  Speaker 2: a soccer field. It killed young people playing soccer and
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  Speaker 2: the Hesbala military commander has now paid for that with
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  Speaker 2: his life. But thinking about this attack on a soccer field,
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  Speaker 2: an attack on innocence on a soccer field, it prompted
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  Speaker 2: me to wonder why there had been no public condemnation
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  Speaker 2: from the activist Crade Foster here in Australia. He's the
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  Speaker 2: soccer commentator and human rights activist who's been highly critical
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  Speaker 2: of Israel and even called for it to be banned
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  Speaker 2: from sporting events over the war in Gaza. But when
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  Speaker 2: innocent Arabs were killed in Israel by a Hesbalah terror
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  Speaker 2: attack on a soccer field, there was no mention of
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  Speaker 2: this tragedy on his social media account. Late today we
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  Speaker 2: asked Foster about his silence and he said the attacks
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  Speaker 2: were awful. He condemns any attacks on innocence of villians,
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  Speaker 2: and while he's been busy with the Olympics, he will
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  Speaker 2: get around to posting something about it soon.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. But look out for this.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, much of the media have run hysterical
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  Speaker 2: claims against Israel, blaming it for deaths that haven't occurred
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  Speaker 2: or that have been caused by Hummas rather than by Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Yet the response to innocent deaths in Israel always seems
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  Speaker 2: to be what shall we say, more measured. Israel is
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  Speaker 2: so often criticized for daring to defend itself and its people,
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  Speaker 2: but once more it seems it's had to act again
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  Speaker 2: to target to murderous extremists who really bear responsibility for
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  Speaker 2: the atrocities in the Middle East and who were hiding
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  Speaker 2: in plain sight really in other countries. For reaction on
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  Speaker 2: these developments, let's go to Alexa Rifchin, who's the co
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  Speaker 2: CEO of the Executive Council of Australian a Jury. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: for joining us again, Alexa. First up, your response to
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  Speaker 2: these targeted killings. Obviously we know the hez Bala killing
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  Speaker 2: in Beirut was claimed by Israel, but it's pretty clear
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  Speaker 2: that taking out the HMAS leader in Tehran was also
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  Speaker 2: Israel's work.
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  Speaker 12: Well, these are two profoundly evil men, and as you
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  Speaker 12: very well pointed out in your editorial, these are men
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  Speaker 12: with a lot of blood on their hands. In the
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  Speaker 12: case of Henia, this goes back more than twenty years
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  Speaker 12: his role in the second into Farda. He was one
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  Speaker 12: of the orchestralers of the October seven attacks. He's repeatedly
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  Speaker 12: called for more at tax on Israeli civilians. This is
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  Speaker 12: a wicked, wicked human being who has brought misery not
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  Speaker 12: only to the people of Israel, between his own people,
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  Speaker 12: as someone who luxuriates in great wealth, who sits in
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  Speaker 12: comfort in luxury villas in Doha. He's a billionaire, largely
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  Speaker 12: by siphoning off foreign aid while his own people suffer malnutrition.
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  Speaker 12: We're told. So this is a horrible human being and
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  Speaker 12: the world has become a better and safer place without him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a sickening situation. When you say, I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's the Hummas leader.
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  Speaker 2: He's well known to authorities, he's essentially wanted by democratic
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  Speaker 2: countries around the world, yet he's able to hide in
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  Speaker 2: plain sight in Tehran. The Iranians are looking after him
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  Speaker 2: and funding and he had been living in Qatar, and
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  Speaker 2: of course it's taken Israel, acting on its.
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  Speaker 1: Own to eradicate him.
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  Speaker 2: What sort of a response do you fear though, now
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  Speaker 2: from both Hamas and Hezbollah, Well.
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  Speaker 12: Hamas and has Balan. The Iranian regime that controls them
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  Speaker 12: both at all times seeks to injure Israel to target
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  Speaker 12: its people at home and abroad. We've seen that. We
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  Speaker 12: recently mark the thirty feversary of the Army are bombing
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  Speaker 12: and Buenos Aires orchestrated by Hasbllah at the behest of
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  Speaker 12: the Uranian regime. We obviously saw the atrocities of October seven.
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  Speaker 12: This doesn't really change the dynamic. What it does is
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  Speaker 12: it makes it more difficult for Hamas to plan and
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  Speaker 12: carry out these attacks without one of their figureheads. It
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  Speaker 12: also shows the people of Gaza that the regime that
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  Speaker 12: has ruled over them is crumbling, and hopefully it breaks
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  Speaker 12: the morale of the remaining fighters. We know that the
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  Speaker 12: Hummas forces in Gaza are teetering. We know that their
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  Speaker 12: remaining leadership can't see the light of day. They're cowering
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  Speaker 12: underground in tunnels, and hopefully this is the death knell
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  Speaker 12: of that horrific organization.
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  Speaker 2: What as I say about Iran though, the insidious role
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  Speaker 2: of Iran in all of this. Obviously they were hosting
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  Speaker 2: Hanya in Tehran. They haven't yet blamed Israel because it
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  Speaker 2: will be so humiliating for them. I suppose to accept
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  Speaker 2: that Israel could do this in their capital.
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  Speaker 1: But obviously the.
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  Speaker 2: Strategic arm and the financia of all this horror around Israel.
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  Speaker 12: Well, you're quite right, Chris, when you trace back all
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  Speaker 12: of the chaos, the disordered, the carnage in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 12: whether it be the civil war in Yemen, the rise
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  Speaker 12: of the Hoodies, whether it be hes Balaan and Lebanon
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  Speaker 12: which has ripped that once great country apart, the Syrian
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  Speaker 12: Civil War and the butcher asade that was propped up
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  Speaker 12: by the Iranian regime while hundreds of thousands of his
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  Speaker 12: own people were subjected to horrors. It all leads back
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  Speaker 12: to Iran and the Mullahs and that regime. And this,
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  Speaker 12: says you rightly point out, will be a great blow
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  Speaker 12: to their confidence, to their ability to rule and lead
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  Speaker 12: and wreak havoc throughout the region. And it also shows
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  Speaker 12: the power of Israel, the righteous power of Israel that
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  Speaker 12: when you injure its people, and it showed this back
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  Speaker 12: in the Munich Olympics in nineteen seventy two. It showed
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  Speaker 12: this with the capture of Aikman. When you injure the
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  Speaker 12: Jewish people, the state of Israel will be there. It
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  Speaker 12: may take time, but these horrific tyrants will eventually fall,
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  Speaker 12: and this is the day really to celebrate the end
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  Speaker 12: of a horrific human being and hopefully a more peaceful
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  Speaker 12: era to flow.
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  Speaker 2: I had to disagree with that, I'm afraid well said,
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  Speaker 2: and thanks for joining us at short notice that Alex Riften,
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  Speaker 2: who's the Executive Council of Australian.
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  Speaker 1: Jury co CEO.
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  Speaker 2: Now, as you will have heard, the Opposition leader Peter
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  Speaker 2: Dutton has been in Israel. He met overnight with the
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  Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nettan Yahoo and my colleague Scharry
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  Speaker 2: Markson has got an exclusive interview with Peter Dutton from
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  Speaker 2: Israel that'll be airing at eight o'clock tonight. Here's some
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  Speaker 2: of what Peter Dutton had to say.
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  Speaker 13: The level of anti Semitism we're seeing in our country
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  Speaker 13: has not been evidenced in our country's history and In fact,
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  Speaker 13: it's very confronting to me that when you speak to
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  Speaker 13: Holocaust survivors or the descendants, they are very clear in
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  Speaker 13: their advice that frankly, they're thinking about coming back to
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  Speaker 13: Israel because I think it would be safer than staying
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  Speaker 13: in Australia. They feel unsecure in our country and there's
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  Speaker 13: a reason for that. So my job is to make
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  Speaker 13: sure that we build our equities and to make sure
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  Speaker 13: that we re establish relationships where they've been damaged.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter Dutton, they're talking about the anti Semitism here
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  Speaker 2: in Australia and how we need to guard against that
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  Speaker 2: and overcome that. Full interview with Shari here on Sky
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  Speaker 2: News at eight o'clock tonight. Let's now go to One
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  Speaker 2: Nation leader Pauline Hansen. She joins me now live from Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again, Pauline. I'm pretty keen
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  Speaker 2: to talk to you about Rex Airlines. The two things
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  Speaker 2: Australians really love a bit of competition in our sky
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  Speaker 2: so we can keep prices down, but we also need
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  Speaker 2: a regional airline to service the regional towns and cities
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  Speaker 2: across this country.
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  Speaker 6: So it's really sad that Rex is under so much
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  Speaker 6: pressure at the moment.
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  Speaker 14: It really is very sad to see that because a
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  Speaker 14: lot of these people in rural and regional Australia travel,
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  Speaker 14: they can't afford to travel. And when you've got it
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  Speaker 14: tied up with the main two airlines Virgin and Quantas
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  Speaker 14: that don't go to these place as well, it was
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  Speaker 14: so important to have Rex and John Sharp actually went
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  Speaker 14: came to see me in Canberra when he was head
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  Speaker 14: of there and was positive about the whole organization. I
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  Speaker 14: thought it would go quite well, but it's not the
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  Speaker 14: case to be so I feel for people in these
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  Speaker 14: rural and regional areas. So is Quantas Is Virgin going
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  Speaker 14: chake up the slack and I think they should, Chris.
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  Speaker 14: They're an airline operating in Australia and I think they
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  Speaker 14: have an obligation that the people in these rural and
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  Speaker 14: regional areas that they do provide a service at a
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  Speaker 14: cost that they can afford, because otherwise people can't travel.
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  Speaker 14: And especially when services are not provided in these areas,
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  Speaker 14: whether it be for doctors or for seene specialists that
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  Speaker 14: they have to go to the cities. I think it's
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  Speaker 14: important that that is provided for these people. Because if
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  Speaker 14: the government can't provide services there, you actually have to
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  Speaker 14: do it another way to get those people at arismable
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  Speaker 14: cost to the cities.
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  Speaker 2: Look, there's no doubt that the larger airlines, especially quantas,
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  Speaker 2: are going to make it tough for REX and others
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  Speaker 2: to go into the big capital city roots. But there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a way to find a commercial viability
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  Speaker 2: and a sustainable future for regional airlines. So that's why
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  Speaker 2: everybody's interested in this and whether governments can help out.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what a federal treasure of Jim Charmers and also
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  Speaker 2: the South Australian Premier I've had to say on this today.
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  Speaker 4: If there is a government response which is warranted and responsible,
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  Speaker 4: then obviously we'll contemplate that and consider that. But let's
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  Speaker 4: hear from the company next.
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  Speaker 11: Rex's regional operations in the past have been quite profitable, so.
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  Speaker 1: There is reason to believe that they can occur into
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  Speaker 1: the future.
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  Speaker 11: And that's why I think a very very detailed analysis
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  Speaker 11: needs to be conducted around what led to this situation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to be careful with subsidism again and
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  Speaker 2: taxpayers money, Pauline, But what role is there here for government?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah?
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  Speaker 14: Well, like I said, what I found out with some
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  Speaker 14: of these airlines is that where they land and some
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  Speaker 14: of these towns the council charging huge amountains for money
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  Speaker 14: is for landing costs. And I said, I said to
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  Speaker 14: the airlines, I said, why is so expensive? They said,
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  Speaker 14: it's not all our charges. It comes down to the
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  Speaker 14: Council's what they charge for us to lay purp to
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  Speaker 14: land on their airports. That's something needs to be looked at.
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  Speaker 14: There's a few things here, Chris that needs to be
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  Speaker 14: looked at. And questioned why the high charges in some cases,
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  Speaker 14: and you know, maybe some other costs need to be
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  Speaker 14: taken into account as well.
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  Speaker 2: Just quickly bad news when it comes to the non
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  Speaker 2: citizen criminals that are out and about in Australia. Revelations
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  Speaker 2: today that a quarter of them twenty five percent of
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  Speaker 2: them are now facing fresh charges since being released last year.
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  Speaker 16: Well it is.
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  Speaker 14: And when I've spoked to you at the time, it
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  Speaker 14: was about seven months ago that had a meeting with Giles.
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  Speaker 6: It was all this, you know, rushing and florid.
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  Speaker 14: Parliament had to come to decision how we're going to
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  Speaker 14: deal with these detainees that we released from the prison
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  Speaker 14: and of course everyone's rushing, wanted to handle through the
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  Speaker 14: Parliament and everything passed. Not one charge has been laid
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  Speaker 14: in that seven months, and Giles said in May that
• 18:53
  Speaker 14: he was going to in the process of actually then
• 18:56
  Speaker 14: charging these people. Nothing happened whatsoever. Giles and Easy didn't
• 19:00
  Speaker 14: want these people locked up. Now Here we have a
• 19:04
  Speaker 14: judge from the Supreme Court in Melbourne has released and
• 19:08
  Speaker 14: basically saying, you know, why breach to the court just
• 19:11
  Speaker 14: for the factors that he's broken off curfew. This is
• 19:14
  Speaker 14: a sude News born citizen of citizen from Born who's
• 19:20
  Speaker 14: illegal in the country. He's actually committed two hundred and
• 19:23
  Speaker 14: eight chargers eighteen with guns offenses and he's saying, no,
• 19:29
  Speaker 14: just release him. That's the problem that we have in
• 19:32
  Speaker 14: this country, Chris, is the judges that we have now
• 19:36
  Speaker 14: until we actually put cameras in these courts or I
• 19:40
  Speaker 14: want to set up a board that oversees the judges,
• 19:43
  Speaker 14: so if they don't hand down sentences to public's expectations,
• 19:48
  Speaker 14: they must then come before the board and say why
• 19:50
  Speaker 14: they shouldn't lose their jobs give tougher sentencing to these criminals.
• 19:55
  Speaker 14: Whether I'm grown citizens or international, I don't care due
• 19:58
  Speaker 14: to crime. Everyone let the public have their say. These
• 20:02
  Speaker 14: are the politicians, and the politicians don't rain them in.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked last night about lowering levels of confidence
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: in the justice system from the public and soft sentencing
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: is part of that, and I think transparency is the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: key to the solution, as you say, Pauline, thanks for
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: joining us. Paul enhancing their live from Queensland. Let's get
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: back to the economy though, and the ending inflation rate,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: as I said, is absolutely three point eight percent now
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: from three point six percent.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: The Treasurer says there are some good signs.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Inflation is still too persistent in our economy. It is
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: more sticky and more stubborn than any of us would like,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: but underlying inflation continues to come down and that's an
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: important development.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Let's bring in PRETTYEP Philip, who's lead partner at Deloitte
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Access Economics, joins us live from Melbourne.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: A big question here, pre deep.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Does it mean the Reserve Bank will not increase interest
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: rates next week?
• 21:00
  Speaker 17: Chris?
• 21:00
  Speaker 18: Based on these figures, we don't see any need for
• 21:04
  Speaker 18: the Reserve Bank to raise interest rates next week, and
• 21:07
  Speaker 18: we don't think they will because if you look at
• 21:09
  Speaker 18: these figures.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: They tell you a few.
• 21:12
  Speaker 18: Things apart from the fact that the Reserve Bank doesn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 18: need to raise interest rates, and these are these. First,
• 21:19
  Speaker 18: inflation is not entrenched, it's sticky, but it's coming down
• 21:23
  Speaker 18: underlying inflation. The annual rate of that for the sixth
• 21:27
  Speaker 18: consecutive quarter has fallen and it's now at the lower
• 21:31
  Speaker 18: strait in two years. The other bit about it is
• 21:34
  Speaker 18: if you look at what is driving inflation at the moment,
• 21:38
  Speaker 18: they predominantly supply side issues and they are the things
• 21:42
  Speaker 18: that interest rates won't fix. And finally, one of the
• 21:45
  Speaker 18: reasons why you do think about raising interest rates is
• 21:48
  Speaker 18: if you think demand is rampant in the economy, and Chris,
• 21:51
  Speaker 18: as you would know if you look outside in the
• 21:53
  Speaker 18: real economy, we see business confidence slow, we see people
• 21:58
  Speaker 18: tightening their belts, and insolvencies on the rise. So demand
• 22:03
  Speaker 18: is not rampant in the economy. What we actually now
• 22:05
  Speaker 18: need to know do as a result of these figures
• 22:08
  Speaker 18: is start to turn the conversation to how we create
• 22:11
  Speaker 18: the conditions that are favorable for business to invest, to grow,
• 22:16
  Speaker 18: to lift productivity and create jobs. Because the supply side
• 22:20
  Speaker 18: of our economy is a little bit stuck. So we've
• 22:23
  Speaker 18: got to increase the productive capacity of our economy and
• 22:26
  Speaker 18: lift the run rate of the economy. That's the conversation
• 22:29
  Speaker 18: we need to have, and that won't be helped in
• 22:32
  Speaker 18: the Reserve Bank raises interest rates. But as I said,
• 22:35
  Speaker 18: these figures mean that the Reserve Bank does not need
• 22:38
  Speaker 18: to raise interest rates.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be a pretty broad consensus that
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: have fallen sort of in a sweet spot where the
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Reserve Bank.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Would be wise just to sit and wait and watch.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: But with tax cuts about to flow through the economy
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and everything we've seen so far, do you think that
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: can hold. Do you think that there is still the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: chance of an interest rate increase by the end of
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: this year or others are now starting to say there
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: could be an interest rate cut before the end of
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Where do you see the next move being?
• 23:10
  Speaker 18: Look, Chris, we've had a view for a while that
• 23:13
  Speaker 18: interest rates have kind of done their job, and if
• 23:16
  Speaker 18: you go another rate rise, it's the difference between inducing
• 23:20
  Speaker 18: a recession or a cautious recovery. We have had in
• 23:23
  Speaker 18: our forecasts a rate cut towards the end of this
• 23:27
  Speaker 18: year because we think that the economy is really weak again,
• 23:30
  Speaker 18: your viewers will kind of know that business confidence is down,
• 23:35
  Speaker 18: investment is not high enough, consumption is going nowhere. The
• 23:39
  Speaker 18: retail sector is really struggling. You can look at this
• 23:42
  Speaker 18: across different sectors. Things are a bit weak. So we
• 23:46
  Speaker 18: think that the next move in rates will be down
• 23:49
  Speaker 18: towards the end of this year. What we've got to
• 23:51
  Speaker 18: do is lift business confidence so that business can go
• 23:56
  Speaker 18: about the job that it needs to do, which is
• 23:58
  Speaker 18: invest for growth.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: We'll watch it with great interesting pre depot pressure to predict.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Philip there from Deloitte Access Economics an interest rate.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Cup before Christmas.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: That would be welcome relief for a lot of Australians,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: in a bit of an early Christmas present for Treasurer
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers as well.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: We will see.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: Now coming up, we're gonna have a break on the
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: other side.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: How foreign owned wind farm operators they're earning up to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars a year in subsidies courtesy of US.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: And also we'll talk about the new South walesd governs,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: a controversial shark.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Net decision all coming up next.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: There's been a controversial decision by the New South Wales
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: government to take down sharknets from beaches along the New
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: South Wales coast at the end of March, a month
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: earlier than usual, to protect migrating turtles.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: The Men's Labor Government is also considering giving.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Councils more power to decide how to keep their beaches safe.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Remember we've spoken to some councilors actually on a scrap
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: nets all together. Freelance surfing riter Fred Paul is living
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the dram. He joins us from Margaret River in the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: West today. Good to talk to you, Fred. I know
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you know the New South Wales beach is very well,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: but you've been now they're surfing and Margaret River today.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Mate, there's no nets around there. You're just in there
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: with the sharks, right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 19: Well, I've only just derived the sarde to noon and Chris.
• 25:20
  Speaker 19: And it's pretty stormy here now, so that's whipping up
• 25:23
  Speaker 19: a lot of swell. But last time I was here
• 25:25
  Speaker 19: a couple of years ago, the standard conversation in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 19: car park when you pulled up at a surf break
• 25:30
  Speaker 19: was to you know, check the crowd, see how big
• 25:32
  Speaker 19: the waves were, see if the wind was going to
• 25:34
  Speaker 19: shift or whatever. And the last question was, well, is
• 25:37
  Speaker 19: it good enough? Is it worth losing a legover? I
• 25:40
  Speaker 19: mean it's a you know, it's a common topic of
• 25:42
  Speaker 19: conversation over here, but you know it's part of the
• 25:46
  Speaker 19: background noise in West Australia. In New South Wales, of course,
• 25:49
  Speaker 19: they are now saying they want to pull the nets
• 25:51
  Speaker 19: out a month early if they If they get that,
• 25:55
  Speaker 19: then you can you can guarantee that the following side
• 25:57
  Speaker 19: of the nets won't go in at all.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a worry given the way that netted
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: beaches and drum line beaches in Queensland and New South
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Wales over half a century or more now have really
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: kept fatality so low. I think only one fatality ever
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: at a protected beach. So the suggestion is you can
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: pull these nets out and there will be no additional
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: shark attacks and loss of life. I mean, how believable
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: is this and how culpable will councils and the state
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: governments be if people get killed?
• 26:30
  Speaker 19: Well, why is the state government divesting its responsibility for
• 26:35
  Speaker 19: this to counsels. Councils are meant to pick up rubbish
• 26:38
  Speaker 19: and fix potholes. And you're right, Chris, the statistics don't lie.
• 26:44
  Speaker 19: There has been as far as I know, only one
• 26:46
  Speaker 19: fatality at a protected beach in New South Wales since
• 26:49
  Speaker 19: they were introduced almost one hundred years ago, and in Queensland,
• 26:53
  Speaker 19: despite dozens and dozens of fatalities at unprotected beachers, since
• 26:58
  Speaker 19: nineteen sixty two, been only two fatalities at Queensland beaches.
• 27:03
  Speaker 19: These things work, we don't know entirely We don't. We're
• 27:07
  Speaker 19: not entirely sure why because these nets, as most people know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 19: don't actually enclose beaches. They just work like traps. So
• 27:13
  Speaker 19: if a big shark happens to come along to a
• 27:17
  Speaker 19: popular beach, then there's a good chance it'll get caught
• 27:20
  Speaker 19: in one of these nets and it'll it'll die.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: But we don't know why that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 19: As a result of that, sharks don't come into these beaches.
• 27:29
  Speaker 15: There are there is some.
• 27:32
  Speaker 19: That are a shark that dies at a particular beach,
• 27:35
  Speaker 19: particularly great whites, scares off other great whites.
• 27:37
  Speaker 15: It has been noticed by.
• 27:40
  Speaker 19: Scientists this is a confirmed observation that when a great
• 27:44
  Speaker 19: white dies at a particular place, great whites are scarce
• 27:47
  Speaker 19: for the next few weeks. So that is that is provable,
• 27:52
  Speaker 19: and those pisticks don't lie. But nevertheless, because these nets
• 27:57
  Speaker 19: also catch the occasional turtle and dolphin and even whale. Sadly,
• 28:03
  Speaker 19: then they have to come up as so the lives
• 28:07
  Speaker 19: of turtles, dolphins and wales. These days, kriz are more
• 28:10
  Speaker 19: important than humans.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the debate has only just begun. I think a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: lot of people are ignoring it, Fred, But when.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: They pull the nets out, I think a lot of
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: beach users are going to be very, very concerned.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Fred, Sorry to interrupt your surfing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Thanks mate, Fred, Paul there in Margaret River in the West.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But this debate is going to be happening all up
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: and down the East Coast if councils and state governments
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: are going to stop protecting these popular beaches. Let's go
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: to Victoria now and catch up with Liberal and Zoey mackenzie.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Plenty to talk about there. Zoey, thanks for joining us again.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I want to start off on renewable energy and this
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: is something we know, but there's a figure being put
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: on it today in Victoria and they're talking about two
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: hundred million dollars a year of subsidies going to overseas
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: companies that own wind farms in Victoria.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is why they put the farms, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: this is why they don't care.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: They don't charge anything for electricity because it's the subsidies
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that make them the money. But of course we all
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: pay those subsidies they get added to our power bills.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: That's why our power bills are going up, right.
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: Chris, We are indeed paying some of the highest electricity
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: bills in the world.
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: And of course we were all promised a rebasing of
• 29:22
  Speaker 15: our electricity costs.
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: We're all going to get two hundred and seventy five
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: dollars more back in our pockets not being paid out
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: in our electricity bills. But instead we've seen nothing. On average,
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: people are paying about one thousand dollars more a year
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: for electricity. Now, when it comes to investment in the infrastructure,
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: wheis you and I met when I was working in trade,
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: I'm not going to be the one to say we
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: shouldn't be bringing the best expertise to Australia developing our industry.
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: Here bring on an EUFTA that the Labor Party hasn't
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: been able to do because they have to answer to
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: their union masters. Nevertheless, I'm all in favor of European
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: investment in Australia.
• 29:56
  Speaker 15: I'm about to go to a.
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: Citizenship ceremony here, which is why I'm not with you
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: in the student celebrating the investment of others.
• 30:02
  Speaker 15: And know how that they bring to our beautiful country.
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: So I'm all for European firms bringing their best technology
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: and their best people to Australia, but we need to
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: remember that ultimately we pay the price, and by Gollie,
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: we are paying hand over fist for energy in one
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: of the most energy rich countries in the world.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm in favor of foreign investment too, It's how
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: we've developed this country. But I'm not in favor of subsidies.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And when our people, our power bills are subsidizing profits
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: for overseas companies, you can understand why so many Australians
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: are concerned about it, especially when.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Our power prices are way too high.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to those other cost of living issues though,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: And then news today the inflation ticking up a little,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: but not as bad as some people feared. And it
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: looks like obviously next week very little chance of another
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: interest rate increase, and possibly that's it. Possibly we've topped
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: out with interest rates, So how confident are you that
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the next move will be down rather than up.
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: Look, I've heard all explanations today, and one of the
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: ones I've also heard is if it doesn't go up
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: next month, then there's a good chance that interest rates
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: will go up repeatedly through twenty twenty five. So I
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: think there's a fair amount of let's wait and see
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: in the Australian economy.
• 31:16
  Speaker 15: We don't have to wait long. The RBA meeting is
• 31:18
  Speaker 15: next week and we'll see what's happening.
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: But let's be very clear, there's nothing that this government
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: is doing to make this any easier for the Reserve
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: Bank to do its job three hundred and fifteen billion
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: dollars extra spending, indulgences like half a billion dollars on
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: the voice and constantly putting more money into the economy
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: and expecting the RBA to just kind of hold its
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: breath and hope for the best.
• 31:43
  Speaker 15: So we'll see what happens next week.
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: Yes, three point eight is better than what someone're expecting
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: at three point nine, but we still have one of
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: the highest core inflation rates in the whole world.
• 31:51
  Speaker 15: We are we are the top of the G ten
• 31:53
  Speaker 15: and that's not really the top of the total pole.
• 31:55
  Speaker 15: I think we should be.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a lot of RBI governors and the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: treasures in the past who have picked these things wrong.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And the one thing you don't want to do is
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: is wait too long to put a lid on inflation again.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: So that'll be worrying Michelle Bulloch, No doubt, here's a
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: treasure of Jim Charmers again today.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I'm not in the business of giving free advice to
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: the independent Reserve Bank. My job is to manage the
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: budget responsibly along with my colleagues in the Cabinet and
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: in the government, to deliver those big surpluses which the
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Reserve Bank Governor has herself said is helping in the
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: fight against inflation.
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: So he says he's not in the business of giving
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank governor advice, but he clearly did through
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: tweeting today. That's it, that's all on track, everything's getting downwards.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Basically, don't put up rates please.
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: There was careful Verblin right from the Treasurer down to
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: prodep just a moment ago with them telling the Reserve
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: Bank what they needed to do. Well, it gives what
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: Jim Chalmers, your job is to manage the Astralian economy
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: and manage it well, and don't leave the RBA out
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: there alone doing all the heavy lifting.
• 32:58
  Speaker 15: That's his job.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Indeed it is. Thanks so much for joining us, Zoe
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Zoey Mackenzie.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: There, Liberal MP are joining us alive from the Mornington Peninsula.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to take a break. On the other
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: side of that, we're going live.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: To Paris as our swimmers pick up more metals in
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: the pool.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And also, of course the Wednesday wrangle, the fight's broken
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: out between two premiers over the title of our most
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Beautiful City. Lad's head straight to Paris and catch up
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: with Fox Sports host Hannah Hollis in the French capital.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again, Hannah, And I'm looking
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: just over your shoulder.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: There is the Eiffel Tower.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Just beyond that, of course, is the River sen Have
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: you been over there this morning to stick your finger
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: in the water and see whether it's good enough for
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: the triathlon.
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: I'm going to leave that to the professionals. No way
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: I'm touching that water.
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: Chris.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: Wonderful to chat to you. But can you hear that?
• 33:55
  Speaker 20: Yes, that is the sound of plenty of swimmers right
• 33:57
  Speaker 20: around Paris who are here for the bath, jumping into
• 34:01
  Speaker 20: the rivers end. Because yes, the scorch of a day
• 34:04
  Speaker 20: here we had in Paris yesterday did its job. It
• 34:06
  Speaker 20: killed the bad bacteria, and the French officials waiting until
• 34:10
  Speaker 20: the very last moment to make their decision made a
• 34:13
  Speaker 20: good one because it was deemed safe for play. So
• 34:17
  Speaker 20: now the river sen has hosted and is starring in
• 34:20
  Speaker 20: the men's and the women's tathlon. Now the women jumped
• 34:23
  Speaker 20: into the water moments ago.
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: The men are up next.
• 34:25
  Speaker 15: But can I tell you something else.
• 34:27
  Speaker 20: Yes, we had a hot day yesterday, Chris, but then
• 34:29
  Speaker 20: we had heavy rains overnight. So the cobblestone streets of
• 34:33
  Speaker 20: Paris that is hosting the ride and the run legs,
• 34:37
  Speaker 20: we've had so many stumbles and falls already of women
• 34:40
  Speaker 20: off their bikes, and the run is just getting underway.
• 34:43
  Speaker 20: So the sun is coming at as you can see,
• 34:45
  Speaker 20: and we hope it drives it up.
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: But the men are in action next.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good lord, after they've had a swim in
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: that river, perhaps I'll have a good, long, clean.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Drink of water in a shower.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I reckon, now tell us about the chlorinated water in
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the pool last night, Caleb que and brought it home
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: for Australia.
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: She did, didn't She in a much clean up pool too.
• 35:06
  Speaker 20: I must say even visually, it's just so spectacular at
• 35:09
  Speaker 20: the Lata Fans Arena. So this was our biggest installment
• 35:14
  Speaker 20: of the Australian and the USA rivalry because American Reagan
• 35:18
  Speaker 20: Smith Kris was the world record holder for this event.
• 35:21
  Speaker 20: She set that world record at the Olympic Trials in
• 35:24
  Speaker 20: Indiana just six weeks ago, so the pressure was on
• 35:27
  Speaker 20: Kaylee to back it up from Tokyo she won the
• 35:29
  Speaker 20: gold in twenty twenty, she wanted to do it again
• 35:32
  Speaker 20: and you.
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  Speaker 8: Beauty, she absolutely did.
• 35:34
  Speaker 20: We saw her signature strong finish in the last fifteen
• 35:37
  Speaker 20: meters to stand atop the podium and I think as
• 35:40
  Speaker 20: proud Australian's Chris were allowed to say that it felt
• 35:43
  Speaker 20: so good to deny the United States another gold medal.
• 35:46
  Speaker 20: Instead they settled for silver and bronze.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, more terrific action unfolding in the pool tonight your
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: time early hours of the morning Australian time, of course.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: But the Aussie men last night got a bronze and
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: is a brilliant achievement at the Olympics anytime.
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: Of course. Absolutely.
• 36:07
  Speaker 20: It was actually Australia's first bronze medal as well for
• 36:09
  Speaker 20: the Paris twenty twenty four Games.
• 36:11
  Speaker 16: And this was.
• 36:12
  Speaker 21: Remarkable, Chris, because our Australian men's relay team wasn't necessarily
• 36:16
  Speaker 21: favored to podium at this game, such is the depth
• 36:20
  Speaker 21: and the competition in this event, particularly right around the world.
• 36:24
  Speaker 20: But it was so wonderful because Australia kept with it
• 36:27
  Speaker 20: in the end. Great Britain and the USA they were
• 36:30
  Speaker 20: the ones that finished a little bit higher on the podium,
• 36:32
  Speaker 20: but we are so proud of them, particularly Elijah Winnington, Chris,
• 36:36
  Speaker 20: who an hour before the relay had just got out
• 36:39
  Speaker 20: of the pool from swimming his guts out in the
• 36:41
  Speaker 20: eight hundred meter final.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible, just to recover so quickly and go again.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Brilliant stuff.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Now, when it comes to sport, especially at the Olympics,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the toughest position to finish, I reckon is always fourth, right,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you're right up there with the meddleist, but you just
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: fall short.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: And that's been the fate of the You go a
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: rugby seven's women's team, right, it has.
• 37:04
  Speaker 20: Chris and we are so proud of them for what
• 37:07
  Speaker 20: they've been able to achieve, but we have to be
• 37:09
  Speaker 20: honest in that this rugby women's seven team came into
• 37:12
  Speaker 20: the Paris Olympics with the hype and the expectation that
• 37:16
  Speaker 20: we would get gold because we did it in Tokyo
• 37:18
  Speaker 20: in twenty sixteen when this event first came on the schedule,
• 37:22
  Speaker 20: and the team has largely remained the same, so a
• 37:26
  Speaker 20: lot of pressure on our girls, and they were doing
• 37:28
  Speaker 20: so well until we hit the semi. And we hit
• 37:32
  Speaker 20: the semi against Canada and gave up a twelve miel
• 37:34
  Speaker 20: lead to then lose it. So body language looked really poor.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: At full time.
• 37:39
  Speaker 20: We had our athletes on their haunches in tears. They
• 37:42
  Speaker 20: then had to regroup and rally for the bronze medal
• 37:44
  Speaker 20: match against the United States, but they weren't able to
• 37:47
  Speaker 20: do that, Chris, and again they gave up a lead
• 37:50
  Speaker 20: and in the end they finished fourth. So they leave
• 37:53
  Speaker 20: the Paris completely empty handed and their heart's broken. But
• 37:57
  Speaker 20: it's all not lost because there was a star of
• 37:59
  Speaker 20: the show, Madison Levy, remember the name, Ladies and Gentlemen.
• 38:03
  Speaker 20: She scored fourteen tries throughout this tournament. No player in
• 38:07
  Speaker 20: history has been able to achieve that. So she has
• 38:09
  Speaker 20: a bit of history on her side and she returns
• 38:12
  Speaker 20: to Australia as an outright star.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: She just wanted to.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Watch fantastic stuff. Hannah, are we going to let you go?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: You've got a busy day and evening ahead of you. Enjoy.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I will thank you, Hannah Hollis there in the Paris.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Such a tough gig for her, What a fantastic event.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: It's great to catch up with her every night.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Let's get into the Wednesday rangle now because joining me
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: here on the desk is the Late Debate host list
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: store a great to see your list, and in Melbourne
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: were joined by columnists and broadcaster Justin Smith. Let's rip
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: through a couple of topics very quickly. Right inflation, cost
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: of living, Jim Charmers. Justin just might get lucky here,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: It might just drop in nicely and not only escape
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: another interest rate rise, but there could be a cup
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: before Christmas, which is exactly what he and Anthony are.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: But he's the end the whole country.
• 39:01
  Speaker 22: He really wants to see right, Oh, absolutely, any I
• 39:05
  Speaker 22: mean this government when it comes to this kind of
• 39:07
  Speaker 22: thing hasn't had a great deal of luck, so they're
• 39:10
  Speaker 22: about jew mate, I would suggest, yeah, I.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Don't know whether there's much luck involved in it, but
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what that you just got to get
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: this right. The RBA have to get this right because
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: if they do, he's off too much and inflation kicks
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: off again in the new year.
• 39:23
  Speaker 17: They're in all sorts of strife, indeed, but the government
• 39:26
  Speaker 17: is not upholding their end of the bargain because, of
• 39:28
  Speaker 17: course the other side of this is inflation, and we
• 39:32
  Speaker 17: know government spending is a historical all time high in
• 39:36
  Speaker 17: the first quarter of this year. So my question is
• 39:40
  Speaker 17: is austerity dead. Governments of the past have been very
• 39:44
  Speaker 17: upfront in saying to their people were deep trouble. We're
• 39:48
  Speaker 17: all tightening our belts. That means pressing paws on a
• 39:51
  Speaker 17: few things, that means saying no to certain projects. We
• 39:55
  Speaker 17: haven't seen that kind of speech from any premiere, much
• 39:58
  Speaker 17: less our federal government. And I think Australians would welcome that.
• 40:02
  Speaker 17: We all know government expending, government spending drives inflation. What
• 40:07
  Speaker 17: are they doing about their end of the bargain when
• 40:10
  Speaker 17: it comes.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: To this cost of living crist we will see, they
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: won't cut unless they feel they have to, and ature
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: they have to.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Until there's a real crisis.
• 40:17
  Speaker 16: So we'll see.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Let's hope they get this one right.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: What about shark nets justin I know it's a it's
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: a new South Wales and Queensland issue mainly.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: But are you for the sharks or for the swimmers?
• 40:29
  Speaker 22: I'm very I must say, I'm very much for the
• 40:31
  Speaker 22: sharks because it's there. I knew you would beremendous, a
• 40:36
  Speaker 22: tremendous amount of damage and surely we'd want, we would
• 40:41
  Speaker 22: all want to get rid of these nets and find
• 40:42
  Speaker 22: a better way to protect the swimmers and but also
• 40:45
  Speaker 22: protect the marine life that is there because these nets, Yes,
• 40:48
  Speaker 22: they've done done their job, but by gee, they've caused
• 40:51
  Speaker 22: a hell of a.
• 40:52
  Speaker 16: Lot of damage to the marine environment. You like to
• 40:56
  Speaker 16: see the nets go, and.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I swim these beaches with my children and I don't
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: want them eaten by sharks. And for every netted beach,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: there are about three fifty netted beaches.
• 41:08
  Speaker 17: But until we have a better plan, the nets are
• 41:10
  Speaker 17: the best that we've got. And Weaverley Council is one
• 41:14
  Speaker 17: of the councils that has long very long time for
• 41:18
  Speaker 17: the abolition of these nets.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: They have Bonbai Beach and Beach, the.
• 41:21
  Speaker 17: Most famous beach in Australia, the most visited beach in Australia.
• 41:28
  Speaker 16: Kill the turtles and no reasonable.
• 41:31
  Speaker 17: Person and this kind of rules you out. Justin reasonable
• 41:35
  Speaker 17: person would argue that marine life is more important life
• 41:40
  Speaker 17: and there's no price that you can put on the
• 41:42
  Speaker 17: peace of mind. People take their kids to be.
• 41:45
  Speaker 22: Everything, everything that's a danger to the human race with
• 41:49
  Speaker 22: human lives.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Just a little notice for all our views.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: If you have any red back spiders, funnel webs, brown snakes,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: tiger snakes or born sharks.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Take them to Justin's place. He's happy to look after them.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: The thing is Justin. What about if.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Bondai Rescue ends up featuring the odd shark attack at Boondai,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: it might kill off tourism.
• 42:10
  Speaker 16: I would have thought, indeed I would This is not
• 42:14
  Speaker 16: what I'm advocating.
• 42:15
  Speaker 22: If you had have listened to what I said, I
• 42:17
  Speaker 22: said that surely the plan is to get rid of
• 42:19
  Speaker 22: the nets so that we can put something better in place.
• 42:21
  Speaker 22: Put some signs shark, But do you feel free to
• 42:26
  Speaker 22: beat it up if you like?
• 42:27
  Speaker 16: You two? You know, feel free, just to get.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Free to verbal un Well, that's it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: But the only other plan is to put up signs
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: in shark language saying please stay away.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: They're people swimming it way, people here please.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Now social media, we've got the two governments of South
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Australia and New South Wales Labor governments is really getting
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: together to try and push this thing to ban social
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: media for kids under sixteen.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to be successful taking the
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: nation with them, I really don't.
• 42:53
  Speaker 17: Obviously this would need to be a national approach. It
• 42:56
  Speaker 17: would be very scattered and I don't know how.
• 43:00
  Speaker 15: Two states would do it alone.
• 43:02
  Speaker 17: We know that these social media platforms already have rules
• 43:07
  Speaker 17: by which you have to be sixteen to access them.
• 43:09
  Speaker 17: That hasn't worked. So the big question is what are
• 43:12
  Speaker 17: the governments talking about doing. And as I've said till
• 43:15
  Speaker 17: I'm blue in the face, because it's been floated before,
• 43:19
  Speaker 17: which was actually by the Morrison government, is to have
• 43:22
  Speaker 17: some sort of online digital ID in which to prove hey,
• 43:28
  Speaker 17: I'm over sixteen, because right now, simply ticking a box,
• 43:31
  Speaker 17: any twelve year old can do that, and it simply
• 43:34
  Speaker 17: hasn't worked. But some of the measures being floated I
• 43:36
  Speaker 17: think are also a matter for parents, not for governments.
• 43:40
  Speaker 17: One of the whistleblowers, Frances Hawser I think her name is,
• 43:44
  Speaker 17: is floating this idea that kids shouldn't have access to
• 43:47
  Speaker 17: a mobile phone until they're fourteen years old. Yeah, those
• 43:50
  Speaker 17: kind of ideas. I think that is a decision for
• 43:53
  Speaker 17: parents to make.
• 43:54
  Speaker 16: That is not a division for the government.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: All of this is really parental. But I suppose the ban.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: The idea of the band is that it gives strengthens
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: the parents' arms as well as there's that technological issue
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: that Liz refers.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: To, just how to actually tell who's on the phone
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and what age they are.
• 44:11
  Speaker 16: Look, I don't know.
• 44:12
  Speaker 22: I mean, I like the fact that they're having talks
• 44:16
  Speaker 22: about it and that they're actually getting together and discussing
• 44:19
  Speaker 22: a way of it. I don't know if this is
• 44:20
  Speaker 22: going to work, because I think it would be a
• 44:21
  Speaker 22: nightmare to facilitate. For me, I'd like to see every
• 44:24
  Speaker 22: person who gets on social media have to prove who
• 44:26
  Speaker 22: they are, you know, And I think because that would
• 44:28
  Speaker 22: stamp out a lot of things. It would stamp out
• 44:30
  Speaker 22: a lot of threats that come over social media and
• 44:32
  Speaker 22: also would help keep the kids off. Keeping kids away
• 44:35
  Speaker 22: from social media is going to.
• 44:37
  Speaker 17: Be a night a digital id that is just wrong,
• 44:43
  Speaker 17: ramping people's private.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Fully into what we've got to keep in off somehow,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: but it's a hard one.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Speaking of social media and these state premiers, the State
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Premier of South Australia, Peter melanauskis is fully involved.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: In this social media push. He's gotten into social media.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Stouts there's a list here of beautiful cities in the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: world that tells us that after a part that forget
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Paris and this damn ball and k and Singapore.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Adelaide is the most beautiful city in the world.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: So Melanouskus has gone out on Twitter and he says,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: this is something we've known for a while now, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: it's official. Adelaide's been named the most beautiful city in
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the world. And popping back to him is the Victorian Premier.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Victoria has already always has a chip on its shoulder
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: about South Australia and just cinder Allen says that's cool,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: but if you need a place to eat after five pm,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: hit us up. I didn't think you could go out
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: in Melbourne after five pm, And melon Ouskus of course
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: says that The Times has rated the food and food
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: scene in Adelaide over Melbourne anyway. So why is it
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: with you Victorians and Melbourne? I it's justin you're so
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: chippy about beautiful Adelaide. Is it just because you're leaving
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: that horrible industrial port city.
• 45:52
  Speaker 16: No, we're not.
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: We're not.
• 45:53
  Speaker 16: We're not chippy. We're just cultured.
• 45:55
  Speaker 22: And I think that you know, a place like Adelaide,
• 45:57
  Speaker 22: you know, beautiful, but it's kind of like it's kind
• 46:00
  Speaker 22: of like the dumb blonde of.
• 46:02
  Speaker 16: Cities, you know. Oh, going on up.
• 46:07
  Speaker 22: Say another thing about Adelaide. Why is it that nobody
• 46:10
  Speaker 22: I ever meet from Adelaide, including many friends and including yourself,
• 46:14
  Speaker 22: Chris Kenny, Nobody bloody lives there.
• 46:16
  Speaker 16: No one from Adelaide stays in the city. They all
• 46:20
  Speaker 16: move out first chance.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Again, it's that.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Well, the reason I live in Sydney is so I
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: can swim in beaches where they have shark nets.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Swim in the beaches off Adelaide. There's no sharkness.
• 46:32
  Speaker 16: But I love this city state rivalry, don't you.
• 46:35
  Speaker 14: I do?
• 46:35
  Speaker 17: And it's healthy because of course every premiere should be
• 46:38
  Speaker 17: saying no, mine's the best.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: You guys are nothing compared to us.
• 46:42
  Speaker 17: But I think the rest of Australia was also very
• 46:44
  Speaker 17: shocked to learn that Adelaide.
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: Is apparently the most beautiful city in the world. Here
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: we are, we're neighbors.
• 46:53
  Speaker 16: A Google match to find out where it is.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I love Adelaide, but the other reason I live in
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Sydney is because alad a great place to visit and
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: then pop over there.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I couldn't visit it if I was still living there.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Now, let's get back to American politics before.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: We run out of time.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Will they have a debate?
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Kamala once one.
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me on the
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: debate stage, because, as the saying goes, if you've got
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: something to.
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: Say, that's pretty good.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: That's a good line from Kamala.
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: I like that.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: It's a lot better than can we be go forward
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: unburdened by what's been before or whatever. But someone asks
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: some random Americans to list of some of Kamala's achievements
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: and didn't go too well.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Can you name a few of her accomplishments? No, no,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: What are some of her compl I will say that
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: I just everything that I've seen. I don't think that.
• 48:11
  Speaker 21: I honestly don't don't think she has any the four
• 48:14
  Speaker 21: years that she was an Office's vice president, I didn't
• 48:16
  Speaker 21: hear her speak once.
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: Until like last week, So that's kind of my take
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: on it.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Very quickly.
• 48:23
  Speaker 16: Has she going to go lose?
• 48:24
  Speaker 17: Well, I hope he does a debater, but let's be clear,
• 48:27
  Speaker 17: he hasn't said that he won't. So her getting up
• 48:30
  Speaker 17: there and being like her whole campaign apparently is arguing
• 48:33
  Speaker 17: that Trump is scared to debate her. Please, we would
• 48:36
  Speaker 17: all have to buy our body weight in that it
• 48:40
  Speaker 17: would absolutely decidinate.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Well, it'll be great, But it's smart of her as
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: an adjusted to do that because.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: He's going to have to agree with one.
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: So now it looks like she's calling the shots.
• 48:50
  Speaker 16: Oh absolutely.
• 48:51
  Speaker 22: I just love seeing that passion that's starting to that
• 48:54
  Speaker 22: energy that's starting to flow out now that now that
• 48:56
  Speaker 22: Joe Biden has gone out of the campaign, we can
• 48:59
  Speaker 22: see it. You know that vox pop they had there
• 49:01
  Speaker 22: asking those Americans, though, I think I saw a similar
• 49:04
  Speaker 22: one where they were asking Americans what the fourth of
• 49:06
  Speaker 22: July was about and they couldn't bloody answer that either.
• 49:09
  Speaker 16: So I think it's with the Americans, not and the.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Question is not actually not actually, Carmala Harris, why do
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I want to hear any of your racial stereotypes about
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: the Americans. Thanks for joining us, Justin Smith and Liz
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Storer appreciate your time. I don't understand why Joe Biden's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: even go going because Carmla Harris told us he was fine.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: She said she'd seen him in meetings and he was
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: tickety boo, but apparently that was wrong. We're going to
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: take a short break there unusual format tonight because sitting
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: at this very desk when we come back from the
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: ads will be Peter Kridlin.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: With Kredlin. I'll see you tomorrow