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Mac & Bone Show - Jim Szoke Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Guys, we've got to come back on the air now.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. That's annoying, man. They should double pay us
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: for these Panther Mondays after an L.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, my Lord.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Mack and Bone with you, joined by Jim Zoki,
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: Panther Radio Network. He probably doesn't want to be joining
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: us right now and talking.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: What's up, Zoki?
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: Why don't we do this next week or something? During
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: the bye week, maybe? I feel like a.
• 0:36
  Speaker 4: Fat loser when the Panthers don't win. Well, I feel
• 0:38
  Speaker 4: like a fat winner like last week. That was a
• 0:41
  Speaker 4: good time.
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: There's a common thread.
• 0:43
  Speaker 4: We eat all this food, Mac, and we think it's
• 0:45
  Speaker 4: worth it because the Panthers are going to win, and
• 0:46
  Speaker 4: then they don't. Now I just feel ashamed of myself.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: You're just bloated and pissed.
• 0:51
  Speaker 3: Empty calories.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Bloated and angry. So, hey, at least.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: Emery Williams and the ECU Pirates, baby, were rolling.
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: Saturday was good.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Sorry, North Carolina Central. Sorry about that.
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: Saturday was good. Got to Cleveland and.
• 1:02
  Speaker 5: I will tell you, that was a rock fight. It
• 1:05
  Speaker 5: was like one of those games, like only one of
• 1:07
  Speaker 5: these teams is going to win. I feel like who's
• 1:08
  Speaker 5: going to lose the least? And again, there were some
• 1:11
  Speaker 5: credits to both defenses, honestly, for making the game as
• 1:14
  Speaker 5: ugly as it was. So I think it was like
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  Speaker 5: credit first of all for that. But the two offenses,
• 1:18
  Speaker 5: they just spent four quarters trying to figure out. And
• 1:20
  Speaker 5: they both get a drive in the final five minutes
• 1:22
  Speaker 5: to get a touchdown, thinking they've done it. But it
• 1:25
  Speaker 5: was just like the defenses were the teams yesterday, and
• 1:27
  Speaker 5: both of them looked really good as far as overall play.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: What did you think about the Panthers' offense?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard not to talk about the offensive
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: line because of how long it took us to get
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: any semblance of a run game going.
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  Speaker 1: And then also the pass protection. And those things go hand-in-hand, too, right?
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: If you can't run it, you're in passing situations where
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: they can tee off.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the offensive line... Just stuck out like a
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: sore thumb.
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  Speaker 3: It did.
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  Speaker 5: And everything you said, because there was pressure on Bryce
• 1:51
  Speaker 5: the entire game. And it was from the edges. It
• 1:53
  Speaker 5: was from up the middle on Mason Graham. Quincy Williams
• 1:56
  Speaker 5: looked like he was in on every single play yesterday.
• 1:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, but it's with Schlesinger. That is such a quick,
• 2:02
  Speaker 5: active defensive front. And then they put Denzel Ward on
• 2:06
  Speaker 5: TMAC for most of the day. And we never heard
• 2:08
  Speaker 5: from him again. I mean, so credit again to their defense,
• 2:11
  Speaker 5: but we couldn't crack the code, especially it felt like
• 2:13
  Speaker 5: Chuba Hubbard was going to get 100 yards. It was
• 2:15
  Speaker 5: going to come on 94 carries because it was like
• 2:18
  Speaker 5: one yard every single time he was running there for
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  Speaker 5: most of the first half. But again, you have to
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  Speaker 5: win those. I mean, you give them credit, but you
• 2:24
  Speaker 5: have to find ways to win and get around it
• 2:25
  Speaker 5: and figure it out. And we just had a hard
• 2:27
  Speaker 5: time for most of the day.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: I thought Max said something interesting last year. Not last year.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: Last hour. He said more.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like a year ago, right?
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  Speaker 1: That was my last interesting comment.
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  Speaker 6: 2025.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Eventually I'll get one for 2026. I think
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: it came during the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: It was really good, though.
• 2:41
  Speaker 4: Last hour, I thought Max said something interesting. What's actually worse?
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: The loss?
• 2:47
  Speaker 4: Or the amount of injuries that are piling up, especially
• 2:50
  Speaker 4: when you're playing a team like Detroit this week. And
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: now Mike Jack's got his problem.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: J.C. 's hurt.
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  Speaker 4: To me, the injuries, I think Mac might be right.
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: The injury concerns might be even worse than.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: The loss was.
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  Speaker 5: And so I'll hold off on that depending on how
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  Speaker 5: long the time is. It sounds like J.C. is the
• 3:05
  Speaker 5: worst one of the quad injuries and so forth. Coker, again,
• 3:08
  Speaker 5: was saying not too bad for him. Devin Lloyd sounded
• 3:11
  Speaker 5: like he was really close to being able to play
• 3:12
  Speaker 5: in this past game. So as long as we get
• 3:15
  Speaker 5: through this week and then the bye week, if we
• 3:17
  Speaker 5: can get these guys back, I mean, there's no doubt.
• 3:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, everyone always says, you know, next man up. Well,
• 3:22
  Speaker 5: there's a reason why the first man's paid a lot
• 3:23
  Speaker 5: of money, because he's better than the other ones. You've
• 3:25
  Speaker 5: got two great corners that were out in the defense. Again,
• 3:29
  Speaker 5: Caleb Evans almost had the play of the game thanks
• 3:33
  Speaker 5: to Will Lee tipping a ball to him. So, yeah,
• 3:35
  Speaker 5: those two guys back there, that could have been the
• 3:37
  Speaker 5: sealer of those two, I'd say, reserve players. coming in, non-starters,
• 3:42
  Speaker 5: and coming in and making a play like that would
• 3:44
  Speaker 5: have sealed the game, if not for the roughing calls.
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  Speaker 5: So I think they hung in defensively, even with the
• 3:49
  Speaker 5: depth out there for most of the time.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: It would have been a great way to win it, too.
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  Speaker 1: The rookie, Will Lee, making the play.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Phillips did a great job because he kind of,
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: as he did a few times in the game, kind
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: of got sucked.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: In on the rush inside. But I thought he did
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: a great job getting out and kind of cutting Watson off.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: Okereke comes up. But it's just, it sucks. But I
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  Speaker 2: think that's the rule. in 2026 what did you think
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: about that roughing call and what did the guys on.
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  Speaker 5: The network think about it i think uh we had
• 4:13
  Speaker 5: kurt coleman yesterday with us and so we um i
• 4:16
  Speaker 5: mean it was it was one of those things like
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  Speaker 5: it's it's borderline but you don't call penalties by degree
• 4:20
  Speaker 5: of severity so it felt like it was mostly a
• 4:23
  Speaker 5: shoulder hit but there was contact with the face mask
• 4:26
  Speaker 5: and the the officials are trained to call it the
• 4:28
  Speaker 5: way that the rule is written on paper and it's
• 4:30
  Speaker 5: just like you have to have rules and until the
• 4:32
  Speaker 5: rule changes um I think that's what you have to
• 4:35
  Speaker 5: live with. I think, too, when you get a quarterback
• 4:37
  Speaker 5: out of the pocket, I think they need to look
• 4:38
  Speaker 5: at changing the rules a little bit when they become
• 4:41
  Speaker 5: potentially a runner. I know he threw the ball in
• 4:42
  Speaker 5: that situation, but they've got to make football plays out there.
• 4:45
  Speaker 5: You already take away the whole can't get the body weight.
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: Landing on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: So there's so many different things they have to look
• 4:51
  Speaker 5: at where they're running 100 miles an hour trying to
• 4:53
  Speaker 5: make a defensive play with a game on the line,
• 4:55
  Speaker 5: and then something really borderline like that happens. And again,
• 4:59
  Speaker 5: it wasn't in the game-winning situation, but there was a
• 5:01
  Speaker 5: full-on face mask where Deshaun Watson gets his head twisted
• 5:04
  Speaker 5: around They don't call that. And so I think they
• 5:06
  Speaker 5: know they missed that call. So I almost wonder, I'm
• 5:08
  Speaker 5: sure Todd Munkin was in their ear about that. It
• 5:10
  Speaker 5: probably became a point of emphasis, that particular call moving
• 5:14
  Speaker 5: forward after that. Like, we can't just have face masks and,
• 5:17
  Speaker 5: you know, contact with the head kind of roughing the
• 5:19
  Speaker 5: quarterback calls not called.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: Bryce got a couple roughing, too. You know, so they
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: called that both ways. And one of them I thought was.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: was a little, maybe a little lucky.
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: But again, they seem to be bone-erring on that side,
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: on the quarterback's side, right?
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: What did you think of Bryce's performance yesterday?
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: I think he hung in.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, to factor in the fact that obviously he
• 5:38
  Speaker 5: got his ankle or whatever dinged up at some point
• 5:40
  Speaker 5: in that game, you could see there were obvious plays
• 5:42
  Speaker 5: where he could have run and didn't run. Like, he
• 5:44
  Speaker 5: got out of the pocket. He's got open territory in
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  Speaker 5: front of him. And he threw the ball into the stands,
• 5:49
  Speaker 5: actually into the dog pound.
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  Speaker 1: That exact play. That play. He could have ran. You
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: think it's the anchor?
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  Speaker 5: I think he probably couldn't slide is my thought. Like
• 5:55
  Speaker 5: he could probably, obviously he could move around and run
• 5:57
  Speaker 5: a little bit. I bet it was just like, maybe
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  Speaker 5: they even said that you're not to run.
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know that.
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  Speaker 5: But I think you could, that was an unusual looking
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  Speaker 5: play in that he did not run. And then the
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  Speaker 5: fact that he hung in under what you said, all
• 6:07
  Speaker 5: the duress, all the hits that he was taking there.
• 6:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, I lost count of actually how many, he
• 6:11
  Speaker 5: threw it into the dog pound twice. And a couple
• 6:14
  Speaker 5: times into the benches. Tons of throwaways. Under pressure and
• 6:18
  Speaker 5: just smart play. So I think he hung in and
• 6:21
  Speaker 5: still ended up with 291 yards. And in theory, could have,
• 6:23
  Speaker 5: should have led a... winning touchdown drive with over four
• 6:26
  Speaker 5: minutes to go with Mechie.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: Dude, he still dropped some dimes, though.
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: There were some plays that he missed and decisions that
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you had him. But stuff like that
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: where I think his mind was a little messed up
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: by the rush. But he still dropped some dimes. Those
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: two back-to-back to Waller over the middle, some of those
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: throws on the touchdown drive once Brad got him moving
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  Speaker 2: were great. He hit, again, those sideline routes he's been
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: throwing so well. He hit a few of those.
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  Speaker 1: So like he's still in Tremaine.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: You had a couple good ones.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Tremaine. And the deep ball was off. And maybe
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we were trying to force it. But like that
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: Tremaine pass was sick, man.
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to get. And then, you know, Coker
• 7:02
  Speaker 5: was not 100 percent. And then eventually the second injury
• 7:04
  Speaker 5: for him. So. That chemistry has to be off when
• 7:07
  Speaker 5: you're not working with the starters you practiced with all
• 7:09
  Speaker 5: week in those situations. So I think that could be
• 7:11
  Speaker 5: some communications and thoughts of like, what do you thought
• 7:13
  Speaker 5: the route might have been in those situations? But there, too,
• 7:16
  Speaker 5: it's hard to pass when you can't run. I mean,
• 7:18
  Speaker 5: you need some amount of balance. It's not about getting
• 7:21
  Speaker 5: stats and this and that. It's about you need some
• 7:22
  Speaker 5: balance to make the defense have to take accountability for
• 7:25
  Speaker 5: we got to hold off on the run. And we
• 7:27
  Speaker 5: outside of the fourth quarter. Chuba got a couple, and
• 7:30
  Speaker 5: then A.J. Dillon got a couple later in the game.
• 7:33
  Speaker 5: But it was Chuba, the first 16 carries of the
• 7:35
  Speaker 5: game were Chuba. There was no second running back, and
• 7:37
  Speaker 5: that just wasn't going anywhere for most of that time.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: And then Dillon kind of got it going, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with those two back-to-back runs. Then Chuba came in, then
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: he kind of— Yeah, it does make you wonder if
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: Dylan should have been in there a little sooner.
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: Just, you know, change of pace. Do I want to
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: say something positive or do I save that for next week?
• 7:53
  Speaker 4: Uh-oh.
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: I think it's time.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, tight ends looked good yesterday.
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: They did.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: 11 for 128, I think was the number that he said.
• 7:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: Tight ends. Tight ends. It was a concern entering the season.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: We saw more Waller, too. It wasn't just like a
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: red zone. He was out there, you know, first and ten.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Mitchell Evans made some plays.
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: Trumbull made some plays.
• 8:12
  Speaker 5: I talked with him this week for the pregame show,
• 8:14
  Speaker 5: and I like the fact that we had some 13
• 8:16
  Speaker 5: personnel at times. I go, when you're out there, it's
• 8:18
  Speaker 5: like the part about your role in this offense is
• 8:20
  Speaker 5: like they don't know if you're going to block or
• 8:22
  Speaker 5: if you're going to be receiving tight end on play.
• 8:23
  Speaker 5: And you need some of that because with Waller, he's
• 8:25
  Speaker 5: basically a receiver. He's out there as a big receiver
• 8:29
  Speaker 5: out there. With with Evans, it's a sneaky little extra thing. Like,
• 8:32
  Speaker 5: is he going to chip and then move out and
• 8:34
  Speaker 5: throw the ball to him like we see with Greg
• 8:36
  Speaker 5: Olson back in the day where you kind of like
• 8:38
  Speaker 5: take it for a second, then go out into a
• 8:39
  Speaker 5: pass route. But I think I like I like the
• 8:42
  Speaker 5: group collectively there as far as what they're able to
• 8:44
  Speaker 5: do and tremble, obviously, immediately make it a big catch
• 8:47
  Speaker 5: in the game. I think he gets better every year, too.
• 8:49
  Speaker 5: Just wasn't enough of anything. Again, it was just one
• 8:51
  Speaker 5: of those games where one of the two teams had
• 8:53
  Speaker 5: to not lose as much as the other one, more
• 8:55
  Speaker 5: than it felt like somebody was going to win the game.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: We're talking to Jim Zoki. He was in the booth yesterday.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: Panthers Radio Network. We're getting our view from the booth.
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: So we're getting a lot of questions about TMAC being
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: held to 2-for-17. And I heard Darren Waller, after the game,
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: talk about... They clearly were scheming with other guys hurt
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: to kind of take him away.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: He also made an interesting point.
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: He said, because Tyson Campbell, one of their top man
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: corners along with Denzel Ward was out.
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: He said he wasn't surprised to see.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: Them play a lot more zone than they did last
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: week and that they're noted for. And I'll be damned
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: if I looked at Sumer Sports today. And they had
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Cleveland with 62% zone. So I think we all thought, oh,
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: this man is coming. And they played a ton of zone.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you all talked about in the
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: booth what they were doing against TMAC and what they
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: were doing defensively.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: There was a lot.
• 9:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, clearly Denzel Ward was traveling side to side
• 9:48
  Speaker 5: most of the time, not all the time with him.
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: And then they had Blackman on Coker for a lot
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: of the game in there, too.
• 9:53
  Speaker 5: And again, that's why you can't be the same every week.
• 9:56
  Speaker 5: The first week when Cleveland lost, they did a lot
• 9:59
  Speaker 5: of zone. Last week against Tampa Bay, they switched to
• 10:01
  Speaker 5: more man. And I think they're thinking, OK, we have
• 10:03
  Speaker 5: to play the chess matchup. Like, they're going to expect this.
• 10:05
  Speaker 5: They're looking for man.
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: We're going to trick it up with more zone there.
• 10:08
  Speaker 5: But again, with Ward, I mean, this is a five-time
• 10:11
  Speaker 5: Pro Bowl, I think future Hall of Famer. But I
• 10:14
  Speaker 5: also think sometimes, too, it's like how you always have
• 10:16
  Speaker 5: your quarterback, like what's your best couple throws? What makes
• 10:19
  Speaker 5: you most comfortable for success? I think sometimes you just
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: have to scheme up. We're going to do some kind
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: of a route, a mesh concept or something to free
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: him up and get him the football because he's your
• 10:27
  Speaker 5: best option in the receiving game. So I think that's
• 10:30
  Speaker 5: the thing is like, could we have worked maybe harder to, yeah,
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: he's a really good defender out there, but he's a
• 10:34
  Speaker 5: good receiver and he's got the size advantage on him,
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: make him somehow better. more available in some way to
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: get the ball into his hands and then see if
• 10:42
  Speaker 5: he can get that part of the offense going.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm looking at it right now. Denzel Ward didn't
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: go in the slot one time. And I'm looking at, so, okay,
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: move T-Mac into the slot. Get that passed away from you.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: T-Mac was in the slot. Oh, I got the wrong
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: page up. I'll have to look that up, Bone. But, like,
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: that's one of the things I was thinking. Like, I
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: know that they don't put Denzel in there. Did they
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: not do enough of moving T-Mac in there? Like teams
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: would do with Horn with us for years because they
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: would know now he goes in there a little bit.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: But to get guys away from Horn, they would put
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: guys in the slot.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: And we need to do more of that. Who's more
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: locked up right now, T-Mac by Ward or Finney by
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend?
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: You act like Fiddy's not there to answer the question
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: for himself.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: You don't hear from Fiddy much anymore either. It's kind
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: of like T-Mac yesterday.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: Look, he's back there. I'm telling you, Fiddy, I am
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: so proud of you. Maybe T-Mac was at the pumpkin patch.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Fiddy is taking so many strides. As a human being,
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: in the past, if he were, first of all, he
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have a date in the past. But secondly, Fiddy,
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: if you had a date on a Sunday night after
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: a horrendously annoying Panther loss, you would have tanked the
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: date and the woman would never have saw you again.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Because she'd say, this dude's obsessed with football. He was
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: a miserable human.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: But you said you went on this date and completely
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: put it out of your mind. Fiddy, you are growing,
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: my friend.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: Scary, Mac.
• 11:57
  Speaker 6: We went to this place in Matthews called, like, Activate.
• 12:01
  Speaker 6: And it's a room where you have like a bunch
• 12:02
  Speaker 6: of different activities. And for three hours, I forgot about
• 12:05
  Speaker 6: the Panthers couldn't block, couldn't tackle.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: God, that's what it is.
• 12:08
  Speaker 6: How bad of a broadcaster Mark Schlereth is. But then
• 12:11
  Speaker 6: four o'clock came. I woke up ready to bitch.
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: He rallied late. Just like Deshaun Watson, he rallied late.
• 12:21
  Speaker 6: God.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: And then the way that we, this Cleveland Deshaun love
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: fest that we created is It's like we had a chance.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: They were booing him in the third quarter.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: How about when he goes out hurt for that play?
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: Or not hurt, but like we hit him on that
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: roughing and he has to go out because he was down.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: And they bring in Shador and they're cheering the heck
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: out of Shador. They're booing Watson when he comes back in.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: He immediately throws the touchdown pass.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: He was being booed during the game-winning drive.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: I know. And you couldn't take advantage of it, Bone.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: At the end of the game, Deshaun's like, I.
• 12:50
  Speaker 6: Love you, Cleveland!
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: This is for you, Cleveland! I'm like, we... We did
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: that crap. We created that harmony. Is that a first?
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: A guy being booed on the game-winning drive and then
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: he wins the game?
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: It's like they didn't know how to react.
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: Because usually when you get to the game-winning drive part
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: of it, you're not being booed anymore.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: He was still being booed in the game-winning drive. Making plays,
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: still being booed. And by the end of the day, though, Zoke,
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: let's go Watson. Oh, yeah.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: There was a let's go Watson chant. They're like, ah,
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: what the hell?
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, in Cleveland, if you were alive, if O.J.
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: Simpson ran in for a touchdown, they would have cheered him.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: Like, hey, O.J.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: So desperate for wins. Hey, that glove didn't say it. Oh,
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: my gosh. There's so many frustrating avenues. Zoke, you don't
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: have to do this anymore, but we're here for another
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: two hours.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: I'm just glad Fitty's in a good place. At least
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: there's some positive on him.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Are you all happy for Fitty or no? Probably not.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: Not today. Maybe tomorrow.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe tomorrow.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: All right, Zoke. Thank you, brother.