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- 0:06This is Jed Disler, and welcome to The Piano
- 0:09Maven, your friendly podcast guide to piano recordings.
- 0:13Actually, this episode is not going to be so
- 0:16much about recordings as it will be about pianists.
- 0:21But I will put in some links to recordings in
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- 0:38because that will keep us having this podcast
- 0:42going and be in production. Ever see these fan
- 0:48magazines about celebrities when they have articles
- 0:52that are on the topic of whatever happened to,
- 0:55meaning somebody who was once... kind of super
- 0:59famous, but then faded from the scene. This happens
- 1:03a lot in classical music, when a certain performer
- 1:07starts to get a lot of attention, either after
- 1:11winning a competition, or else they have a strong
- 1:14publicity machine behind them. But then after
- 1:17a certain period of time, you don't hear about
- 1:20this performer anymore. Or more accurately, these
- 1:24performers are nowhere near so publicized as
- 1:29they were in the earlier part of their career.
- 1:31So I thought I could pick 12 pianists who might
- 1:36be good subjects for a Whatever Happened To article
- 1:41in People magazine. Well, maybe not People magazine,
- 1:44maybe in some piano magazine or gramophone. I
- 1:50don't know. But I put this list together of pianists
- 1:54who did get a lot of attention back in the proverbial
- 1:58day, and you never hear about them anymore. So
- 2:02let's begin with number one on my list, the Belarusian
- 2:06pianist Leonid Kuzmin. In the late 1990s or mid
- 2:13to late 1990s, he recorded quite a bit for the
- 2:18Russian compact disc label. Do you remember that
- 2:21label? It had blue background. I think it was
- 2:26white print in a blue masthead or something like
- 2:30that. Anyway, his discs were getting reviewed
- 2:34quite a bit. And one of his American sponsors
- 2:38was the musicologist and writer Joseph Macklis.
- 2:42And Joseph Macklis wrote this bestselling textbook
- 2:46called The Enjoyment of Music. And he made piles
- 2:49of money on that book. And Joe Macklis would
- 2:53often host concerts or parties in this penthouse
- 2:57apartment on East 57th Street, I think it was,
- 3:01because I went to a bunch of those parties. And
- 3:04I think he kept this apartment specifically for
- 3:07these social events. Anyway, Kuzmin was a real
- 3:12virtuoso who reveled in flashy repertoire. And
- 3:16a lot of critics thought he was talented, but
- 3:19musically he was green as grass. And that was
- 3:23true in certain ways, but he certainly could
- 3:27get around the keyboard. Some critics also called
- 3:31him a pianist with all fingers and no brain,
- 3:34which was understandable, but not quite fair.
- 3:38But I've enjoyed some of the recordings. Some
- 3:41of them are outrageously glib. But I've been
- 3:45looking all over the Internet, and I cannot find
- 3:48the whereabouts of Kuzmin anywhere. Did he keep
- 3:53up his career, but with a much lower profile
- 3:56than he had in the 90s? Or did he give up playing?
- 4:00Is he alive? Is he dead? I really would like
- 4:03to know what happened to Leonid Kuzmin. If you
- 4:07know, then please let me know. Let all of us
- 4:11know. Unfortunately, in regard to the second
- 4:15pianist on this list, what happened to the 1989
- 4:20Van Cliburn Competition gold medalist, Alexei
- 4:25Sultanov? turned out to be a long and drawn -out
- 4:28tragedy. At the age of 19, he won the Clyburn
- 4:33competition, and he quickly became a superstar
- 4:36overnight. He got a flood of engagements, and
- 4:40he had this kind of daredevil style of playing
- 4:43that critics love to hate. And after several
- 4:48helter -skelter years on the platform, Sultanov
- 4:52tried to focus himself more. And in 1995, he
- 4:58shared second prize at the Warsaw Chopin competition.
- 5:02There wasn't a first prize given in that year.
- 5:04And he would record here and there. And he had
- 5:08a particularly faithful following in Japan where
- 5:11he made some CDs that were not published outside
- 5:15that country. quickly put an end to his career,
- 5:27although he heroically fought to survive and
- 5:32to heal for several years before death finally
- 5:36overtook him in 2005. A very sad end to a meteoric
- 5:43yet kind of troubled career. The third pianist
- 5:47on my list is the Greek pianist Dimitris Sigouris.
- 5:52In 1982, when he was 13, he started to get tons
- 5:57of attention. I remember very vividly when he
- 6:02made this big splash playing the Rachmaninoff
- 6:05Third Concerto with the National Symphony Orchestra
- 6:08and Rostropovich was conducting. This was at
- 6:11Carnegie Hall. And I remember in November 1982,
- 6:16he gave this super long concert in New York.
- 6:20It was his solo debut. But also on this solo
- 6:25debut, the violinist Eric Friedman had a guest
- 6:28shot. And he joined Dimitri Sigouris to play
- 6:31the Franck Sonata. I think this program was like
- 6:34three hours. And basically, the 13 -year -old
- 6:38pianist played fast and loud. A few months before
- 6:43he died, Arthur Rubinstein got to hear Sigurus.
- 6:48in private at Rubinstein's home. And he wrote
- 6:52or was quoted in saying that, I thank God for
- 6:57keeping me alive so that I would be able to hear
- 7:00with my own ears Sugoris play. He is the best
- 7:05pianist I have ever heard, including myself.
- 7:09And then Rubinstein took off his gold watch and
- 7:12he put it in Sugoris's wrist as if... passing
- 7:15on the torch, I imagine. And then two months
- 7:19after their meeting, Rubinstein died. Anyway,
- 7:23Sigouris, as a teenager, went on to record several
- 7:27releases for EMI. His debut disc coupled the
- 7:31Brahms Paganini variations and the Schumann symphonic
- 7:34etudes. And there was an all -list disc. There
- 7:38was a Rachmaninoff third with the Berlin Philharmonic.
- 7:42I think there may have been one other disc. I
- 7:44honestly can't remember. And then basically this
- 7:47pianist disappeared from the limelight. Although
- 7:51if you look at his website, he did go on to have
- 7:55a busy and quite respectable career as an adult
- 7:58performing and recording worldwide. But he never
- 8:03quite got the same attention as an adult that
- 8:06he got as a teenager. The fourth pianist on my
- 8:09list is Max Levinson. I don't know if anyone
- 8:13remembers when he started to get all this press
- 8:17attention in the late 1990s when he recorded
- 8:21two solo piano discs for a label called Encoded
- 8:26Music. And his career was launched when he won
- 8:31first prize at the Dublin International Piano
- 8:34Competition. Back then, I remember there were
- 8:38some publicists who were really pushing me to
- 8:41review these discs. And these discs were quite
- 8:45excellent. They still are. One had Schumann's
- 8:49Papillon, Brahms' Variations on an Original Theme,
- 8:53the six little pieces Op. 19 by Schoenberg, and
- 8:57Leon Kirschner's Five Pieces for Piano. And the
- 9:01other disc was an all -Bartok release. Both of
- 9:05these discs were exceptionally well recorded.
- 9:09And I still enjoy these discs because Max Levinson
- 9:12was clearly a pianist who channeled his considerable
- 9:16virtuosity toward musical ends. Now... I don't
- 9:21think he disappeared so much as that I personally
- 9:25lost track of him. Yet Max Levinson performs
- 9:29and teaches and has a very fulfilling musical
- 9:32life. He's chair of the piano department at the
- 9:36Boston Conservatory, and he's also a faculty
- 9:39member at the New England Conservatory. So he
- 9:42is really doing... quite well and performing
- 9:46and teaching. And I'm not really sure what's
- 9:50happening with him in terms of recordings, but
- 9:53certainly he's not getting the attention that
- 9:56he got when those two solo CDs were released
- 10:00in the 90s. Another pianist, this is the fifth
- 10:03one on my list, who got lots of attention when
- 10:07she recorded several discs for Decca in the early
- 10:112000s. is Naida Cole. I actually first heard
- 10:17her on a disc of highlights from the 1997 Van
- 10:21Cliburn competition, and then I reviewed her
- 10:25Decca releases for classicstoday .com. I liked
- 10:30her first disc a lot. It had wonderful performances
- 10:34of Foray's Ballade, Op. 19 in the solo piano
- 10:38version, and some really terrific Chabrier. although
- 10:42I found her Ravel Gaspard de Lannoy uneven, rather
- 10:47cold in some ways. And her second release had
- 10:51a very good, if, again, I use the word cold,
- 10:56performance of Ravel's miroir. I mean, it's...
- 10:59absolutely rock solid technically. And then there
- 11:02was a very direct and uncluttered and really
- 11:06scintillating Liszt sonata on this disc, and
- 11:10I hadn't thought about it in years. And before
- 11:13I started to record this episode, I listened
- 11:17to it again, and I really, really liked it a
- 11:19lot. I think it deserves to be reissued. But
- 11:23what happened to Naida Cole? I'll tell you what
- 11:26happened to her. In 2007, she gave up her piano
- 11:30career to become a doctor, believe it or not.
- 11:34And she is assistant professor in the Department
- 11:37of Anesthesia and Critical Care at the University
- 11:41of Chicago. Now, speaking of the Clyburn competition
- 11:44and the sixth pianist on this list. André -Michel
- 11:49Schub got a lot of attention when he won the
- 11:531981 Clyburn Gold Medal. He made three solo albums
- 11:58for Vox on their Vox Cum Laude label. I guess
- 12:03that was a step up from regular Vox, you know.
- 12:06It's kind of like Economy Plus, you know. The
- 12:09debut disc. had Brahms' Handel Variations and
- 12:13the Liszt Paganini Etudes. It was a very fine
- 12:16disc, actually. There was a second solo release
- 12:19with two Beethoven sonatas, and there was a third
- 12:23disc that had the Schubert Wanderer Fantasy,
- 12:26the Chopin F minor fantasy, and Mendelssohn's
- 12:30Fantasy in F sharp minor, which was a work that
- 12:33wasn't recorded all that much at that time. So
- 12:37after the initial fuss and publicity machine
- 12:41died down after André Michel Choub won the Clyburn.
- 12:47Basically, he's had a very stable musical life
- 12:51as a soloist and as an exemplary chamber music
- 12:55player. I don't think he ever became a superstar
- 12:59on the level that people expected, but he's been
- 13:03active on a world -class level for decades. probably
- 13:08it's healthier to have this kind of busy, non
- 13:11-pressured, and artistically fulfilling life.
- 13:14And I can speak from experience because I think
- 13:17I have a similar kind of musical life and more
- 13:21power to André -Michel Schub. The seventh pianist
- 13:25on my list is Friedrich Chu. If I was assembling
- 13:29this list purely on the basis of recorded output
- 13:33and a pianist's profile in terms of of his or
- 13:38her association with a label and how that label
- 13:41promotes that pianist and also critical consensus,
- 13:47then I would put Frederick Chu on this list as
- 13:51a... definite whatever happened to candidate.
- 13:54But the fact is, is that Frederick Chu is as
- 13:59active as he has ever been. He's in demand as
- 14:03a performer, as a teacher and a jury member.
- 14:07And he is still playing fabulously at full capacity.
- 14:12He's been very involved with bringing innovative
- 14:15ways to incorporate technology into teaching.
- 14:20The thing is, is that he rarely records anymore.
- 14:23But back in the 1990s, he entered into a relationship
- 14:28with Harmonia Mundi that yielded some fantastic
- 14:32releases, and they were all exceptionally well
- 14:35recorded. There was a complete Chopin -Mazurka
- 14:39cycle. There was an excellent disc of Schubert
- 14:41songs transcribed by Liszt. There were some fabulous
- 14:45Ravel. He did a wonderful miroir. Speaking of
- 14:49miroir, his is one of the best in the catalog.
- 14:52And he also made what I think is the best overall
- 14:56survey on disc of Prokofiev's complete solo piano
- 15:00music. Again, this is someone who, just because
- 15:04he is less visible on disc than he was 30 years
- 15:08ago, that doesn't mean he's not making a living
- 15:11or not having a diverse and productive and busy
- 15:14and fulfilling musical life. Far from it. Now,
- 15:18if... I was doing this podcast in the year 2000
- 15:22rather than 2025. We'd certainly be able to do
- 15:28an article about whatever happened to Ivo Pogorelich.
- 15:33Now, we do know what happened to him because
- 15:36he's back on the scene. But you know the story.
- 15:40You know about how he was controversially eliminated
- 15:43from the 1980 Chopin competition and how Martha
- 15:48Arkerich resigned in protest from the jury. She
- 15:51called him a genius and all that. And then Pogorelich
- 15:55went on to become the most talked about. possibly
- 15:59polarizing pianist of his generation. And I've
- 16:02talked about Pogorelich a lot on this podcast.
- 16:05Remember I did an episode in the first season
- 16:08about his amazing May 1990 Carnegie Hall concert?
- 16:12That's the stuff of legends. Anyway, after his
- 16:17wife and mentor Alisa Kezaradze died in 1996,
- 16:24Pogorelich basically dropped out of sight. And
- 16:27I never will forget when he made a comeback in
- 16:312006 to give his first New York concert in 10
- 16:35years. It was at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
- 16:39I wasn't at the concert, but... Very soon after
- 16:43the concert, I heard a bootleg recording, which
- 16:46I don't have anymore in my collection, but I
- 16:50vividly remember a good friend of mine bringing
- 16:53it over. And, oh my God, I was in shock. Anthony
- 16:59Tomasini's scathing review in the New York Times
- 17:03was mercilessly accurate. And the playing was
- 17:08just totally incoherent and weird and formless.
- 17:12And basically, Pogorelich has been off the cliff
- 17:16ever since, artistically speaking, reaching the
- 17:20point of no return. And his two solo CDs for
- 17:25Sony Classical, released in 2019 and 2022, are
- 17:30equally perverse and really, really strange.
- 17:35The next pianist on this list of whatever happened
- 17:40to dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, fill in the blank,
- 17:43is the French pianist François -René Duchable.
- 17:47When he first came on the scene in the 1970s,
- 17:51he got a lot of support and encouragement from
- 17:54Arthur Rubinstein, and he made many recordings
- 17:57for Erato and EMI. And then in 2003, he made
- 18:03an announcement that he was giving up concerts
- 18:06and he was going to retreat from the international
- 18:09concert limelight by hiring a helicopter to drop
- 18:14a piano into Lake La Colmiane near Nice in France.
- 18:21I don't know if that actually happened. I know
- 18:24that he announced that he was going to do that,
- 18:27but I didn't see any news reports about that
- 18:30happening. And what happened to François -René
- 18:34Duchable ever since 2003? I have looked up and
- 18:39down the internet, but maybe I haven't researched
- 18:42it enough or done the kind of deep research that
- 18:46I should be doing. So if you can fill me in on
- 18:50whatever happened to François -René Duchable,
- 18:52I would really love to know. And the final pianist
- 18:56on my whatever happened to list, actually, this
- 18:59list is less than 12 pianists. I take it back.
- 19:02But the final one on this list is Sergei Edelman.
- 19:07He got a lot of attention in the 1980s. When
- 19:11he came to the U .S. in 1979, he was brought
- 19:16to the attention of RCA Victor by the widow of
- 19:20the pianist Alexander Braylovsky. So what happened
- 19:24was, is that under the producer John Pfeiffer's
- 19:27supervision, he began to make recordings for
- 19:31RCA in a very unpressured way. without the goal
- 19:36of releasing them, just for him to get used to
- 19:40being in the studio. And there was a lot of press
- 19:44attention when Orcier released his debut CD.
- 19:48It had a marvelous performance of the symphonic
- 19:51etudes, along with the arabesque and a wonderful
- 19:54tacata. Then there was an excellent Chopin disc
- 19:58with the B minor sonata. There was a coupling
- 20:01of the Schubert Wanderer fantasy and Schumann's
- 20:04C major fantasy. I've never heard that disc,
- 20:07believe it or not. Then there was a Beethoven
- 20:11disc with the Appassionata coupled with Op. 31
- 20:16No. 3. And then he recorded for RCA the two Mendelssohn
- 20:21concertos with Klaus -Peter Flohr conducting.
- 20:24Really, really fine disc. And he also did a terrific
- 20:28Strauss burlesque with Pavel Berglund conducting.
- 20:32Nobody ever talks about that recording. That's
- 20:35totally under the radar. But then nothing more
- 20:38for RCA. basically faded from the label or they
- 20:42dropped them. However, Sergei Edelman has had
- 20:45a distinguished teaching career, both in the
- 20:48US as well as Europe and Japan, and he has continued
- 20:53to record. And there are some... excellent releases
- 20:56on the Japanese Triton label. There was a terrific
- 21:00Bach disc with the Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue,
- 21:04an Italian concerto, and he remade the Schumann
- 21:07Fantasy and Symphonic Etudes for Triton. I have
- 21:10not heard his remakes. He also did the Chopin
- 21:14Second and Third Sonatas, also for Triton. So,
- 21:18like André -Michel Schub and Friedrich Schuh,
- 21:21Sergei Edelman continues to have a busy and fulfilling
- 21:26and multifaceted musical life and for me i think
- 21:31that's the most important thing in the long run
- 21:33not to become a superstar after you get all this
- 21:37publicity from winning a competition or landing
- 21:40a contract with a record company i think the
- 21:43best kind of musical career is when you have
- 21:46a diversified musical portfolio rather than banking
- 21:51on being a superstar and putting all your eggs
- 21:53in one basket. I think if you just try to be
- 21:56the best musician you can be and you keep up
- 21:59your game and you grow over time, I think that's
- 22:02the best way to do it. So in the case of most
- 22:06of the pianists I've been talking about, the
- 22:09whatever happened to question is answered with
- 22:12a positive outcome. In the case of Alexei Sultanov,
- 22:17he... crashed and burned artistically and came
- 22:20to a tragic end health -wise. The Pogarellich
- 22:24story, you know, come to think of it, it kind
- 22:27of parallels the creative path of that comedian
- 22:32Lenny Bruce. You know, Lenny Bruce started out
- 22:36in the 1950s as a daring and provocative and
- 22:39controversial. and highly charismatic performer
- 22:43who challenged the stand -up comedy norms and
- 22:47had tremendous influence, and everybody was talking
- 22:50about him. And then he just wound up becoming
- 22:54a bloated, ranting, obsessive, and eccentric
- 22:59caricature of himself. And, of course, the drug
- 23:02use didn't help. As for Leonid Kuzmin... As far
- 23:06as I know, he's missing in action, unless you
- 23:09tell me otherwise. And the same for Francois
- 23:13-René Duchabla. What's up with him? Please fill
- 23:16me in if you know, listeners. And Naida Cole
- 23:20is a successful and highly respected anesthesiologist.
- 23:27This is Jed Disler, and you've been listening
- 23:29to The Piano Maven, your friendly podcast guide
- 23:32to piano recordings. Thank you for tuning in
- 23:36to this episode, and I look forward to being
- 23:39with you next time.