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Melania (2026) — "Here we go again." · The Kulturecast

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  Speaker 1: Well, well, here we go again. Everyone wants to know.
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  Speaker 2: So here it is Melania, ready PG, exclusively in theaters
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  Speaker 2: January thirtieth. Hello everyone, and welcome to the Culture Cast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Christashue, and I'm joined by my good
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  Speaker 2: friend Dustin Rutledge, who we used to do this once
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  Speaker 2: in a blue moon together, and it's been several blue
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  Speaker 2: moons since. And apparently we hate ourselves. I was waiting
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  Speaker 2: for your fiffy one lighter from.
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  Speaker 3: The movie Yeah, here we go again, not to be confused.
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  Speaker 2: With the tagline from Gremlins two, here we grow again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh God. On this episode of the Culture Cast, we've
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  Speaker 2: taken it upon ourselves to watch a film in quotations,
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  Speaker 2: directed by from the director who brought you such classics
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  Speaker 2: as Hercules and Tower Heist and The Family Man comes
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  Speaker 2: a film so obviously propaganda. Even we can't pretend it's
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  Speaker 2: anything else. Alania a film in quotation, that's a film film,
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  Speaker 2: as Slavo would call them, it is a felim. So
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  Speaker 2: on this episode of the Culture Guys, like I mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: we are going to be taking a look at twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six is Milania a film directed and produced by
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  Speaker 2: Brett Ratner and Jeff Bezos purchased by Amazon for forty
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  Speaker 2: million dollars. Because that's a believable number that you paid
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  Speaker 2: for this movie. I guessed the film made effectively nothing.
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  Speaker 2: It is a box office bomb. Shocking because it's awful.
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  Speaker 2: They're burying the lead right then and there, Jesus Christ, Dustin,
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  Speaker 2: I am so unbelievably curious.
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  Speaker 3: Boiler.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I am so very curious. What did you think
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  Speaker 2: of Milania, the film chronicling the twenty days before Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump became president again.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we had the I don't know, good fortune of
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  Speaker 3: hearing a lot about it prior to us watching it. Man,
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  Speaker 3: we watched it anyways, we know.
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  Speaker 2: What we were doing, we do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we knew, We knew what we were signing
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  Speaker 3: up for. But I mean, it kind of was worse
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  Speaker 3: than I thought it was going to be.
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  Speaker 2: The bar being set rather low was apparently not low enough.
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  Speaker 3: No, there just was noth anything to it. And I
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  Speaker 3: know I made the common of when we were while
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  Speaker 3: we were watching it that this thing is such slog like.
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  Speaker 3: It took effort to keep watching it. And my wife
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  Speaker 3: is watching it with us, and she she didn't last
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  Speaker 3: the whole time. She's like, I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to stay as non political on this
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  Speaker 2: episode as possible. I'm kidding. I think that this movie
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  Speaker 2: is Yeah, well, we're not going to do our best
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  Speaker 2: because I'm not even gonna attempt to, you can, I won't.
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  Speaker 2: I have never seen something so obviously masquerading as propaganda
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  Speaker 2: as a film before. And look, I have not gone
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  Speaker 2: and rewatched some of the Nazi films from World War
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  Speaker 2: Two and the propaganda that Joseph Gerbels and friends were
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  Speaker 2: creating until I watched this movie. And then I went
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  Speaker 2: back and educated myself on some of those kinds of films.
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  Speaker 2: And this is very much in the vein of something
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  Speaker 2: like that. I mean, we have a subject of a
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  Speaker 2: documentary who seems ally disinterested in having anything to do
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  Speaker 2: with the camera crew following her around. Most of the
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  Speaker 2: movie is a over the shoulder shot from behind, in
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  Speaker 2: the vein of In a Violent Nature, the horror movie
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  Speaker 2: that came out two years ago, which was problematic for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people because some of the some people
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  Speaker 2: whose opinions I trust, don't like the movie because it's
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  Speaker 2: just a movie about walking for an hour and a
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  Speaker 2: half and not the good kind of walkin' either walking
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  Speaker 2: around and I mean a lot of people had an
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  Speaker 2: issue within a violent nature just being a guy walking
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  Speaker 2: around for an hour and a half. And this movie
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  Speaker 2: is my letterbox review is in a right wing nature,
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  Speaker 2: because that's what this movie is. Most of the movie
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  Speaker 2: is Milania walking around over shoulder shots and it would
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  Speaker 2: you know, it would be an interesting documentary style. I
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  Speaker 2: think you would agree you could do this kind of
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  Speaker 2: documentary on another subject who actually has some value that
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  Speaker 2: they're adding to the world. I don't perceive that Milania
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  Speaker 2: Trump has added any value to the world at any
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  Speaker 2: point in her life at all, because the documentary about
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  Speaker 2: her life doesn't convey to me anything other than she's
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  Speaker 2: woefully out of touch with reality. She doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: have any empathy for other people suffering because when they're
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  Speaker 2: talking about Jimmy Carter passing away, we have to hear
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  Speaker 2: about her mother the whole time. Who Yeah, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: your mother was great. She was your mom, but she's
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  Speaker 2: to quote Matziew Lillard from Scream, she's no Jimmy Carter.
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  Speaker 2: And it's you know then then there's just the optics
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  Speaker 2: of it are strange, because again, we have a film
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  Speaker 2: that's effectively a forty million dollar bribe by Jeff Bezos
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  Speaker 2: and Amazon over to the Trump administration. This is not
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  Speaker 2: anything I'm saying. This is just factual information. Amazon paid
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  Speaker 2: the Trump family forty million dollars to have the exclusive
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  Speaker 2: rights to release this movie in theaters and on vod
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  Speaker 2: and see what it got you thirty four million dollars
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  Speaker 2: in losses, a thirty four million dollar tax ride off.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's smacks of light propaganda on the face of it,
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  Speaker 2: and when you sit down to watch the movie, it
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  Speaker 2: smacks of To call it propaganda would would be to
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  Speaker 2: say that the people behind making it weren't complete fucking morons,
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  Speaker 2: but they are. Everyone involved in the making of this
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  Speaker 2: movie is a complete dipshit of the highest order from
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  Speaker 2: Brett Ratner, who I hope the next movie and the
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  Speaker 2: last movie you make is Rush Hour for because I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what other films you could direct anymore that
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  Speaker 2: anyone wouldn't laugh you out of the building unless they
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  Speaker 2: start John Voight, Robert Dovey, and Gina Carano, I assume
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  Speaker 2: or Ben Shapiro's next joint. Brett Ratner has made himself
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  Speaker 2: a director now who cannot be taken seriously, should not
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  Speaker 2: be taken seriously by anyone in the movie industry because
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  Speaker 2: the person who should have taken this job on was
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  Speaker 2: not didn't need to be a real director. It didn't
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  Speaker 2: need to be they didn't need to be anything. It
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  Speaker 2: was a movie where by the end of it. And
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  Speaker 2: I've seen bad movies, as of you. I've seen movies
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  Speaker 2: that are like, you know, bottom of the barrel, pieces
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  Speaker 2: of like complete time wasters. Like I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: call a movie a piece of shit, because I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't say that very often about movies. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: this flippant and dismissive about film. I actually find it
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  Speaker 2: rather hard to be this flippant and dismissive about film
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  Speaker 2: because I know as well as you do, having been
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  Speaker 2: involved in this industry now at least for me personally
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  Speaker 2: for over a decade and for you now for over
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  Speaker 2: five six years now, like having interacted with, or talked
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  Speaker 2: to or listen to people in the industry, I know
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  Speaker 2: how much work it takes to make a film. So
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  Speaker 2: I find it hard to be like this movie is
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  Speaker 2: a complete waste of time because a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: made this movie. However, a lot of people also took
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  Speaker 2: their names of this movie. People involved in the making
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  Speaker 2: of this movie took their name off of this movie.
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  Speaker 2: And so I feel like I'm okay to say in
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  Speaker 2: terms of this movie, it is a piece of shit,
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  Speaker 2: and it is a complete and utter fluff piece in
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  Speaker 2: a way that is a fluff piece made by morons.
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  Speaker 2: I you know, everything that the Trump administration does is
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  Speaker 2: rather ineffectual and idiotic. It's the dumbest, stupidest version of
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  Speaker 2: the thing that they can do. You know. It's one
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  Speaker 2: of those things where it's like, of course Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: said he doesn't like mail in voting, and then he
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  Speaker 2: sends in a mail in ballot, like it's not even
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  Speaker 2: they're not even trying anymore. And to to push that
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  Speaker 2: onto to use the transitive property, and I know some
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  Speaker 2: people just sort trans and turn this off. To use
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  Speaker 2: the transitive property, it was probably anybody at this point
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  Speaker 2: has to have to have left off. I called this
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  Speaker 2: movie a piece of shit. To use the transitive property
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  Speaker 2: with this movie, I would say that anyone involved in
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  Speaker 2: the making of this movie knew better, But not only
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  Speaker 2: did they not do better. In knowing better, they willfully
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  Speaker 2: pushed forward and ahead with making what I can only
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  Speaker 2: consider to be the biggest waste of forty million dollars
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  Speaker 2: I've seen since they took Batgirl and locked it in
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  Speaker 2: the HBO vault, which we'll never see, but that cost
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  Speaker 2: about the same, if not a little bit more. So, This,
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  Speaker 2: for me, is just one of the most bizarre films
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. It's not even a movie. It's not
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  Speaker 2: even To call it propaganda is to miss the point.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a waste of time. It's just a waste
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  Speaker 2: of time.
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  Speaker 3: I would call it failed propaganda, because even propaganda is
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  Speaker 3: supposed to incite some kind of movement or change, and
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  Speaker 3: this just doesn't do anything. And on top of that,
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  Speaker 3: the forty million, I mean, we all know what it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a here, Trumps, I'm buying some favor with you.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's all it is.
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  Speaker 2: Currying favor is not anything new.
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  Speaker 3: And I would also argue that it's also Millennia is
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  Speaker 3: properly complaining about I don't know, not having really been
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  Speaker 3: known for much in the first term, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: she talks about her the best thing, but she kind
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  Speaker 3: of got railroaded with you know, who gives a f
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  Speaker 3: about Christmas?
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  Speaker 2: And she got railroaded.
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  Speaker 4: Huh, we don't know my wife.
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  Speaker 2: She's a great woman. She can barely speak a lack
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  Speaker 2: of English. But you know, we hate immigrants. We hate him,
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  Speaker 2: we hate immigran. Not my immigrant wife.
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  Speaker 3: She was railroaded. Oh yeah, and heard some of her
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  Speaker 3: fashion choices like the I don't really care to you
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  Speaker 3: as she's going to go visit a what was it
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  Speaker 3: like an immigrant camp? And so, I mean she she
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  Speaker 3: got nailed for a lot of stuff, and I think
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  Speaker 3: this was a way for I don't know her husband
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  Speaker 3: to order her the team, the Trump team, to like
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  Speaker 3: kind of put her back up on a pedestal, like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: look at her, the first lady, the best one we've
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  Speaker 3: ever had. So I think it was all those things poor,
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  Speaker 3: poorly done, failed propaganda, the currying favor and look cutting
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  Speaker 3: you're important.
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  Speaker 2: And look that we know that they're trying to control
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  Speaker 2: the narrative, like we know what this looks like. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an idiot, I'm not stupid, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: speak about slavojijiak and ideological reasons for doing things. We
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  Speaker 2: live in a post ideological society now, like and I
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  Speaker 2: genuinely believe that, like they're not even trying anymore to
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  Speaker 2: pretend like the things that they're doing have any reason
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  Speaker 2: other than self interest, you know, in engagement or self interest,
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  Speaker 2: you know, inflating one self interest or self worth or
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  Speaker 2: doing anything for self gain. Like they have never at
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  Speaker 2: any point in the last you know, eight to ten
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  Speaker 2: years now in terms of the Trump say, Republican Party
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  Speaker 2: and the Conservative movement, you know, aside, they have not
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  Speaker 2: they have not taken it upon themselves to do anything
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  Speaker 2: other than increase their bottom line. But at one point
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  Speaker 2: in our country's political history, people used to pretend like
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  Speaker 2: they were doing it for a reason, like well, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna go bomb Iran because we're gonna give
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  Speaker 2: them democracy, we're gonna give them freedom. And now it's
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  Speaker 2: like now we're just taking their fucking oil, Like we're
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  Speaker 2: going to Venezuela to take the president and we're just
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  Speaker 2: gonna take their oil. Like we don't even in terms
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  Speaker 2: of like we as a country, but the people in
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  Speaker 2: charge of this country at the moment, we're not even
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  Speaker 2: attempting anymore to try and present what we're doing as
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  Speaker 2: an ideological choice. We're just doing it because we can
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  Speaker 2: increase our own bottom line, and that's what this movie
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the making of it feels like. We
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  Speaker 2: know that this movie was essentially, like you said, a
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  Speaker 2: forty million dollars bribe. Jimmy Kimmel talked about it on
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  Speaker 2: his show. The Trump family has spent their entire lives
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  Speaker 2: increasing their bottom line. That's their job. That's literally what
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  Speaker 2: they're known for. If you don't like what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: go look at how they conduct themselves and tell me
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  Speaker 2: that they're doing anything otherwise. I'm not speaking to immigration
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  Speaker 2: or trans identity, or the way that they treat the
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  Speaker 2: queer community or African Americans or anything else. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: talking about the fact that they conduct themselves like people
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  Speaker 2: who all they care about is money, and that is
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  Speaker 2: ever present in a movie where your lead is a
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  Speaker 2: detached millionaire who doesn't even understand the concept of empathy
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to people are who's lost there, who
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  Speaker 2: have lost their homes in wildfires when she is there's
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  Speaker 2: a moment in this movie where she's sitting and watching
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  Speaker 2: the footage of the California wildfires from the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, I guess, and it's like she's an
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  Speaker 2: alien who's beamed in from planet fucking Neptune and she's
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  Speaker 2: seeing two people playing basketball. It's not like she's watching
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  Speaker 2: a thing that should be in increasing her emotional engagement.
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  Speaker 2: She's just like, I am.
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  Speaker 4: Seating here watching a show about people who have lost
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  Speaker 4: their livelihoods and homes. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, there's no reaction, no emoting of any kind.
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  Speaker 2: There's no emotional engagement. As as as the subject of
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  Speaker 2: a documentary. The film is called Milania. We know what
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be about. We know you quoted it
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of this episode the here Week go again, like,
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  Speaker 2: we know what this is going to be about. This
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  Speaker 2: is gonna be one giant circle jerk for Milania and
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  Speaker 2: the Trump family. And you know you can sit and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's not Donald Trump, it's Milania. You're right it is.
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  Speaker 2: And they make it very clear throughout the movie that
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  Speaker 2: she hates her husband. So that's fine it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if you're trying to paint the picture. And this is
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  Speaker 2: ostensibly my belief as to why this movie exists, and
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  Speaker 2: this is just my own personal head canon. You can
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  Speaker 2: you'll pick it apart, however, you tell me I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 2: not you Dustin but the Internet. Really, I think this
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  Speaker 2: movie was more to make the Trumps look like a
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  Speaker 2: quote real family, unquote, trying to humanize a group of
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  Speaker 2: trogloditic freakazoids who all they do is crawl out of
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  Speaker 2: a swamp every day, shake the mud and dirt off,
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  Speaker 2: and go about their lives, mucking it up for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of us who are just trying to exist in
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  Speaker 2: this world. And by the end the movie, it does
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  Speaker 2: not change my opinion. If anything, it makes me just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: these people are really fucked up, like fucked up in
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  Speaker 2: a way that normal people in this country who have
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  Speaker 2: voted for them, who support them, could not fathom how
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  Speaker 2: fucked up they are. Because I am like, all families
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  Speaker 2: are fucked up. We all have our dysfunction in our family.
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  Speaker 2: But these people are fucked up in a way that
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  Speaker 2: is hard for anyone who's not part of the upper
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  Speaker 2: crust cognizanti to understand, if they even understand well.
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  Speaker 3: And we know how these things are made. Editing is
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  Speaker 3: a thing, and there's plenty of times where Donald Malani
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  Speaker 3: are together, family is together, and if I agree with you,
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to paint this family portrait and there's a
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  Speaker 3: couple times where they play they edit in these little
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: audio clips of Blanni and Trump talking about something with Baron,
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  Speaker 3: but there's so few and far between, and they're around
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  Speaker 3: each other a lot, which leads me to believe there
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  Speaker 3: wasn't much there to use, so they used what they could.
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  Speaker 3: Everything else is probably just pretty stale and it wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: serve the purpose of the what they were trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, we didn't We didn't even
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: hear what Baron Trump sounds like. Yeah, though, to be fair,
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  Speaker 2: I know what he sounds like because I've heard that
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  Speaker 2: clip on the internet. I want my shoel geese. I
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: want my shoelgees. Now he's like six ft ten and
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  Speaker 2: he looks like some sort of weird Donald Trump homunculous,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's I can't look at him because it looks
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: like someone just went Donald Trump and just you know,
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  Speaker 2: stretched him about a foot. Yeah, it is to your point,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in anything, and you know, if you're if
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: you listen to this podcast frequently, then you know, like
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  Speaker 2: Dustin said, the way editing goes and the director is
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  Speaker 2: seeing exactly what they want you to see and nothing
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  Speaker 2: else and nothing more that's at least a good editor
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  Speaker 2: and a good director working together would be on the
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: same page in that regard, and with something like this,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you would have to be on the same.
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  Speaker 3: And that's actually a good segue into oops all b.
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  Speaker 2: Roll, Oops All b Roll. That was right.
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  Speaker 3: That was because it was so so little to use.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this movie had so much just just a
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  Speaker 3: fill time. I don't know if that was the plan.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine, because if you'd think if there was
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  Speaker 3: good stuff, they'd show it, you know, and there just wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: So and that was the joke that you and I
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  Speaker 2: made when we were watching this, as you know, oops
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  Speaker 2: all b roll, like the delicious mouth cutting Oops all Berries,
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  Speaker 2: Captain crunch Cereal. So I was convinced and still am
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  Speaker 2: that there is no b roll because the b roll
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  Speaker 2: is this entire movie, Because if there was something interesting
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  Speaker 2: that happened, I would have thought they would have shown it,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: and they didn't. I mean the most I think the
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: most interesting part of the movie maybe the the inauguration
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  Speaker 2: campaign day, Like what did the film show us that
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  Speaker 2: we did not know about before?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, this doesn't fully answer your question,
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  Speaker 3: but I'll try. Malania talks about her Be Best program
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  Speaker 3: and well, I agree, it's a great initiative. Okay, there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing wrong with the initiative. It just felt like she
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  Speaker 3: said she's going to continue here be Best program. I
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  Speaker 3: don't recall that she ever got started. The first time
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: she announced that it was a thing, but that's the
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  Speaker 3: last I ever heard of it until this documentary. And
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: she spent most of the time talking about her Be
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Boss program with other like women for from other countries
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: are like like mccrone's and what was it the Queen of.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Jordan, Yeah, the Queen of Jordan's wife.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and how they have been doing these things,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: and the Queen of Jordan at one point says, oh, yeah,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I did that twenty years ago. Because all these things
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: that Millennia is talking about, this initiative, I mean, they
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: teach that in my kids great school, about cyberbullying, like
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: it's nothing new, it's not groundbreaking. Well but hey, but.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, now now, now let's now, let's let's talk about
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that for a second. They don't like like the irony
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: of using Billy Jean Michael Jackson's music is lost on
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: that a group of a group of alleged pedophiles making
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: a movie about other alleged pedophiles using alleged pedophiles music
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: is uh, not allegedly hilarious. It's very hilarious. The optics
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of it are fucking hilarious. And then I mean, the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: music that they use in the movie is at times
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: ironically disturbing, like the use of Billy Jean, but yet
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Gimme Shelter to open the a song that they clearly
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: missed the meaning of. And then at the end of
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the film they use It's a man's man's man's world,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: which I understand the point of that song. But again,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: everything that the movie does, it feels like they're just
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: like stepping on a rake, like sideshow Bob in a
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: circle of rakes, over and over and over again. But
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: they're too stupid to realize how dumb they look. They
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: lack the self awareness here to understand that they look
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: like complete fucking bozos of the highest order.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Well, and the next lyric, I think, after it's a
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: man's world is not a woman's and this is a
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: film about the first lady.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Thankfully, just think, just think, Thankfully Donald Trump is present,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: You're right, thank god, Donald Trump gave his wife an
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: hour and a half of movie time to make this movie.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: But can I answer your question, is there anything we
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: learned or anything new that we got from this? To me,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: it was the fact that, well, we got to meet
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: these other women in leadership places that are probably that
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: are doing more than our first lady. I was like, oh,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: the Queen of Jordan, she's been on it for a while.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Good for her.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: The thing that I think maybe was my big takeaway,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: other than the fact that Milania had creative control over
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the movie, which means whatever we saw she wanted us
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: to see, and like you said, the idea of like
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the other women in the world have done this more
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: than she has, is how much of Milania's story is
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: an immigrant story and how much the right hates fucking immigrants,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and how many people in this movie, especially early on,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: are immigrants, Like clearly not from this country. Clearly are
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: not Americans, Like Milania is not an American, she wasn't
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: born here. I was, so there you go, I'll be
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: an asshole since that's their whole raison detra I'll do
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: it too. I don't like Milania not because she's an immigrant,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: because she's an asshole, and she hates other immigrants and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't understand her place in the world because she married
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: someone who's super rich and got a green card from him.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: And let's just pretend like that's not the case. That's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: my point. Like, the whole movie is spent with an
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: immigrant surrounded by other immigrants helping her do her duties
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: as first lady. And yet we hear every day on
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the news how they hate immigrants, how they want to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: throw Hispani people into prison because of ice, how they
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: want to separate them from their children. Again, this is
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: at me making any sort of reaching assessment. This is
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: what they're doing every day. We can see it. Yeah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: you know, I live in a state where there is
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: one of these, you know, effectively, I wouldn't say modern
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: day concentration camps, but modern day you know, Japanese internment
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: camps from World War Two. I mean, if you want
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: to treat people like an occupying force for no reason,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: be my guest. But it's just the optics of it
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: are not great, and this movie doesn't. Because this movie
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: is a film created by Brett Ratner, pitched by Bezos effectively,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and purchased by Amazon and Creative controlled by Milania. They
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: don't feel the need or compunction to do anything serious.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I would say that this movie could be titled Milania Colon.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: These people aren't serious people. Nobody who made this movie,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: nobody in the administration is a serious person. None of
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: these people are serious people about anything. They don't take
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: any of this seriously when given forty million dollars for
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the budget. And by the way, Milannia made an unestimated
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars of the forty million, which is
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: just fucking horseshit of the highest order.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Well, we saw how hard she works, Chris, Oh, the
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: complexities of her life.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I am so sorry.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I like black on white dress, not black white on
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: black dress.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I made the decision for the day. Let me go
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: home and sleep, mam. It's twelve in the afternoon. I
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: know like that. It's it's pedantic, like go fucking put
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a camera on literally anyone else, Like, don't put it
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: on a camera on someone who might actually be interested
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: in having a camera put on them, as opposed to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: having the camera put on someone who is in front
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: of the camera all the time with their back to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the camera, because even now they couldn't be bothered as shit.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Well, and I thought I've found it interesting just more
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I guess contradiction to what they're saying to what they're doing.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: You know, she talks about how she's managing the complexities
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: of life as a private citizen and being a first lady,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: being a wife, being a mother, being a business woman,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: and then they you put quotations around all these things, right, yeah, yeah,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: And then they proceed to show her staff effectively working
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: in the dark overnight. It looks like and furiously taking
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: phone calls for people, and it's all editing, but like
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: they're making it look like her her team is doing
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: crazy amounts of work twenty four to seven. And there's
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: also a scene about her hiring someone else for her team.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: So what exactly is she doing because it sure looks
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: like she's got a team of people doing it for
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: her and she's just saying yep, nope. And back to
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: what we were talking about. This through line, through the
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: whole thing, the whole Mulanian movie is immigrants and the
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: And that's actually one thing I took from this. There's
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: multiple times in the film where film.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Pilamslays a feeling where I actually thought, oh, that's awesome.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: And those are those moments where they would highlight this
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: person that immigrated to this country and that he worked
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: their tail off and got to where. And there's so
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: many of those stories in this and those are the
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: only times I was like cool for them, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: and even you know Malani and talking about her mom immigrants,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Lania is an immigrant, her dad's there immigrant. I mean
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the and I tellied it. I did a little experiment,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I guess you could call it with how much of
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: the movie was her walking, trying on dresses, doing these things.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: You know, I'll share those numbers in a moment, But
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: aside from those numbers, I'd probably say there's I don't know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: twenty five minutes of immigration stories.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Which is almost a quarter of the movie.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so are you ready for this?
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: All? I was gonna say? So so Dustin. Dustin took
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: it upon himself to watch the movie a second time,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: which which is just frankly sadomasochism is not even a
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: strong that's me being diplomatic. I know what you're going
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: to ask me. So you went back and rewatched it
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: and timed anytime that the camera was behind her essentially, Yeah, okay,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: So the movies in one hundred and four minutes. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: did you.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Say one hundred and four Yeah, no, way.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: No, it's worse. It's worse that it seemed to keep going.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: So I want to know, I want to take over
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: under here.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: So well, let me clarify I wasn't so what I did.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Let me give you my criteria. I had three stop
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: watches going. One was anytime she was walking from one
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: place to another, whether the camera was behind her or not.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: But because there was a lot of just her walking
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: and then just writing in different modes of transportation. So
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: what I what I didn't include in that is like
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like her and Donald Trump walking out
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: to take a seat at the end inauguration. You know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't count that. I just just her walking from
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: a place to another place or writing in a mode
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: of transportation.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: The other stopwatch was trying on dresses and discussing dress alterations,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: and then the third one was talking about the Donor's
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Ball with her interior designer Buddy did those three well?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Which I had a fourth to talk about at the time,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Immigration stories.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, I want to say that the amount of
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: time she spent with the camera behind her has got
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to be somewhere in the half an hour or no
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: it's not.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, all.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Right, what are the numbers then, because this is fucked
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: up if that's the case.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: So, out of the three categories they timed, the total
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: of all three of them is sixty four minutes and
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: five seconds of walking, writing in a mode of transportation dresses,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: and talking to your interior designer about a ball. Sixty
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: four minutes and five seconds. And I would argue, Dad,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: there's another twenty five minutes of immigration stories. So to
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: break that down even further, the talking to the interior
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: designer about the donor's ball a meager ninie minutes and
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: forty eight seconds less than I thought, it felt like
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: so much more.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Well, this movie is an hour and a half, but
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: it feels like two fucking hours. I mean we were
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I think we were twenty minutes into it when I
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: like clicked down on the timer, and I was like,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: because by the way, I did not watch this movie
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: anywhere then through the means that I would watch it,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: because there's no univer pay piece of shit. I thought
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: we were like a half an hour to forty minutes,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and we're like ten minutes and I was like, oh
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: my god, like this is you know this it's one
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: of those things where I've seen bad narrative films and they,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: you know, they kind of twisted the wind and they flail.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they do something interesting, but for the most part,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: we're not talking about the kinds of movies that are
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: interesting failures. I'm talking about the movies that are like
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: failure failure. Some of the worst movies I've seen recently
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: in terms of narrative are Casino Royale Funny Money, which
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: was a Chevy Chase movie, and I think that's probably it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Like those are you know, two pretty bad examples of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: very bad movies that don't need to be watched by
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: people because I think for the most part, there's no
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: value to them. And I would put this on that list,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: like it's I wanted to ask you something because, you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: in doing the research for the movie, one of the
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: things that it seemed like they took kind of maybe
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: not a fence at but I had a weird bone
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to pick was the idea that this is not a documentary,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: it's just.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: A twenty days in the life of I guess.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Well, the idea of the film, and Melania said it herself.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: She said it was not a documentary, but it was
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: instead a quote created experience and quote purposeful storytelling unquote.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I you know, we have a term for this. It's
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: called a movie.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not movie.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: No, because if you're trying to redefine the movie, what
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the fuck were you doing with this? Like it? It?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: In so many ways? It could have been so much more,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: like you know. The film is is produced by Brett Ratner,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Milania Trump, Mark Beckman, and Fernando Sulichin. Fernando Sulichin has
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: put his name on a lot of interesting documentaries about
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: actual topics and people that are worth going out of
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: your way to do a film on. And I think
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the thing that's maybe the most disappointed, and I think
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: you would agree, even though this is not something either
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: one of us would have had any interest in watching,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I think you could have actually done an interesting documentary
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: about Milania. She does have a good story. She came
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: from rather humble beginnings as the daughter of what like
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a textile worker and a like a teacher, like a laborer. Essentily,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: two laborers in Slovenia came to this country modeled meton
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and then they had a kid together and she got
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: her green card. Like you could focus on a lot
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: of that story. This you could turn this into.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Been went on to employ other immigrants. I mean, there
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: could be a bit very redeeming film here, right.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: And I was gonna say, you know, there's moments in
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: this film where I'm like, you know, you could have
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: really leaned into the immigrant of it and done like
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: a you know, like a female Arnold Schwarzenegger's story, Like
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: she has a lot of those same kind of like
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: markers in her life that Schwarzenegger did, you know, the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: drive to come to this country, the drive to do
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: it in a way that's atypical of so many people
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: as opposed to going and getting a technical degree or
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: a degree from university. They went and took advantage of
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: something that they already have, Like they're you know, in
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: her respect her quote good looks unquote and Arnold Schwarzenegger
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: no quotations here his physical prowess, because that's what it is,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, attractiveness is subjective. I don't find
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Milania Trump remotely attractive inside or out, and they don't
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: even want to do that. And what I don't understand
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: is if You're going to make a movie about a
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: first lady who is clearly unlike any other first lady
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, Like she clearly is Like
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying positive or negative. I'm just a dress
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: seeing the reality of the situation. I've never seen another
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: first lady naked, which you can go and do very
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: easily on the internet. With Malania Trump, you see pictures
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: of her naked, which is not a thing with like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's not pictures of Michelle Obama on the
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: internet naked. There's not pictures of Laura Bush on the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: internet naked, which feels like a shame. I don't know
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: something about Laura, but I like Laura Bush me personally.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why they didn't lean into that. That
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: wouldn't that wouldn't even be that hard like that. That
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: feels like the that feels like, in my mind, the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: obvious direction to have taken this. And because they didn't
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: take that, and because they did the laziest thing possible,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: we get an hour and a half of wheel spinning
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: and propaganda attempts, attempts at propaganda, because again, you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: if it's propaganda, what is the point of propaganda but
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to control the narrative, shape the narrative, mold it into
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: something that we want or need to engage with in
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: a substantive way, the way we want people to engage
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: with it. What what is even the point of this
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: as part apaganda? It doesn't succeeded showing us a normal family.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: It doesn't succeed at showing us a normal person. I mean,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you know, there could be in b roll of this
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: movie her asking her housekeeper how much does a banana cost?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Ten dollars? Like you know, I mean the out of
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: touchness that these people have is presented in the over
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the shoulder view of Milania. She is so disinterested in
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: her own documentary she can't even be bothered to face
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the camera and talk to it. And then we have
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: really unengaged narration as well, which I mean.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Some of it's just reading history.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Cliff notes why they thought Milania was the one we
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: needed to listen to throughout the entire movie is is
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: a choice. Her voice is grading, her point of view
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: is completely useless. She has no point of view of
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: her own on anything. I feel like this was written
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: by someone who was given a outline of the things
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: this movie needs to say and the outline of the
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: things this movie needs to not say, and they followed
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: it to the tea. I mean, there's there's nothing about
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: this movie that's interesting, engaging, or thought provoking. All it
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: is is an hour and a half of people taking mayonnaise,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: rubbing it on whitebread and throwing it at drywall. Like
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: that's all it is. Like there's it's just white on
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: white on white. There's nothing going on here. It's so
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: it's almost hilarious. How inoffensive and and and and and
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: what's funny is you know you mentioned this idea like
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: in the in the documentary, they're like, I want to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: go and head with cyber bullying. Maybe. And this is
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: just to quote the to quote the immortal Taylor Swift,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: maybe keep your side of the street clean first before
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: you start telling the rest of us to not engage
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: in cyber bully because the last time I checked, the
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: biggest cyber bully happens to just be our mother fucking president,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: who is the world's biggest cyber bully. Like he is
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the quintessential Yeah, he's the quintessential asshole bully whom no
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: one stands up to because everybody's tail is firmly between
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: their legs about it. And what you do with bullies
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: is you bop them on the fucking nose with a
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: roll of newspaper, Like, that's what you do to bullies.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You stand up to a bully, and the bully fucks off.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: And the fact that no one is willing to stand
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: up to Donald Trump is absurd. And the fact that
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: no one is willing to say to him, listen here, fucko,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: like the way you treat people is inexcusable. The way
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you conduct yourself is a deplorable and the way you
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: view our country and the people in it is disgusting.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: We don't live in a shithole country. We live in
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a very, very very complicated country that has a lot
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: of complex issues that cannot be boiled down to immigrant bad,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: white people good. It can't be boiled down to that.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: And if you think it can be, go watch Milania,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and even then your intelligence will be insulted. I'm not
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: even sure if the people who are Trump supporters bought
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: this breed brand and style of bullshit. It seems like
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: some of them did, but judging by the lack of
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: money that this movie made, I don't think even the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: people that they thought would show up showed up.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, idea guarantee. There's a pretty large swath of people
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: that showed up to watch it and halfway through were
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: probably like, oh God, why did I pay for this?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: And if it's meant to be inspiring for women or
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: little girls or whoever might be watching it to become
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: engaged or think well someday I could whatever this is
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: in this movie is not something you should be wanting.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: There are so many more engaging documentaries about worthwhile women
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: subject material like r Vader Ginsburg documentary RBG, a woman
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: who actually did something like you know, Milania is a
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: movie about a woman who happened to marry the right guy.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yep, I'd like to see a documentary of the Queen
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: of Jordan.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Right or Macrone's wife. Frankly, like it's it's funny because
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: if the point of the movie was to inspire young women,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: what does it inspire young women? I don't even like
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: there There is no point of view that this movie
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: has that I could find to be engaging or uplifting
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: or inspiring, Like, I don't. I don't understand what could
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: even be perceived as inspiring about this movie. Malania does nothing,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: barely engages with the people in her life, seems completely
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: detached from reality or at least emotional ability to perceive reality.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And by the end of it, by the end of it,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: all I can think is, well, she just doesn't care,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and so why should I.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Well, and yeah to what you're saying, you don't watch it,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: and at the end of it, think to yourself, I'm
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: gonna get out there and fill in the blank like that.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Well, well, hold on now, Dustin. According to the film
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Milaniam Immigrant, Milania has a lot of credits to her
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: name because the post credits of the film really were
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: cluing us into all of Mlania's accomplished right, because because
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the because the because the movie doesn't understand that, you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: we don't really care at this point, because we've been
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: beaten into submission. But they go on to talk about
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Keith Siegel's release we have to listen to the Take
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: It Down or talking about the Take It Down Act,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: which is AI generated intimate imagery, Like I'm sorry, none
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: of these things are impressive, not because they're not impressive things,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: but because you probably didn't do them. Because judging by
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: everything else in this documentary, the level of engagement that
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: you have with anything is effectively zero. Other people are
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: doing it for you and you're just slapping your name
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like classic classic Trump marketing.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Right, Well that's the thing. I mean, Trump University, Trump Vodka,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: like Trump the movie like that might you know, this
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: is Trump the movie. But the thing is, and you know,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, like I I would rather have
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: watched a movie like this about Donald Trump. Yeah, I
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: would have rather watched a movie called Trump about Donald
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Trump or Donald about Donald Trump and watch that movie
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: be as insane as this one, because that would actually
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: be the movie that would be insane, that would be
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: the movie that would be inspiring some true like stop
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and pause moment. This movie is just like you know,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the woman who married Donald Trump is as vapid and
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: as stupid as he. That's my takeaway. My takeaway is like,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and I don't and this has nothing to do with
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: any gender or race or creed or color. They're terrible people.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: They just happen to be white people. They happen to
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: be children of immigrants, and immigrants in this country are
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: under attack by people like them. And I don't understand
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: why people like that would be doing that unless it's
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the old pull the ladder up behind us maneuver, which
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: is what it is. There's plenty of room in this
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: country for everybody. How do I know that because drive
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: ten miles outside of any major city in the Midwest
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and you got nothing but land, nothing but land, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: there's plenty of room for everyone in this country. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: don't understand why we push people out and push people
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: away when they're making money and paying taxes. The people
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: that aren't paying taxes are not the immigrants. I would
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: like to point out people that aren't paying their fair share.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Probably the people that are voting the arad of the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: immigrants is probably why they're doing that. Like, like I
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: said before, we used to live in a very ideologically
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: soaked world where everyone was doing things the war on
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Christmas and they're coming for the Christians. Now it's just
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: we just say people that don't look like us, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: we don't even care why. We don't have to justify why.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: And that is so post ideological because you don't even
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: care anymore. You don't even attempt to. You're not even
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: attempting to make it a reasonable why. You just the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: why doesn't matter. It. The why has become so unimportant
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: because there is no why it. To go back to scream,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: it's like Billy loomis AND's scream, what's scarier than a
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: guy with a motive one without one? And that's what
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: it feels like. They have no they have no internal
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: locus of control as a group of people. They just do.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And in just doing, they have achieved very little, if anything. Frankly,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I would say nothing. They've dismantled and destroyed more than
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: they've created.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Well, back to my stop watches, so we've talked about
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: the Donor's ball nine minutes forty eight seconds, talking to
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: interior designers, talking about well, trying on dresses or talking
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: about dress alterations twelve minutes and seven seconds seems like
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: way more than that. But here's the big reveal. The
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: amount of time in this movie where Alanie's just walking
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: from point A to point B or writing in a
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: mode of transportation. It is forty ten minutes and ten seconds.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: And this is what like her not saying anything, there
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: might be a narration going on. She's not doing anything
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: or saying anything, just walking and writing. I think there's
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: a little bit where she sings Billy Jean and I
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: have a lot of the time or run through that
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: because she's barely knew the words anyway, but.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: It's her favorite song. You know, what's your favorite Michael
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Jackson song? Donald? Well, what I guess. Two days ago
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: they asked him what's your favorite Elvis song? I like
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: all of them. I like them all. Yeah, I'm just
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: like the Bible, you know all of them and love
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: them all. Congratulations, like it's it's it's like you like
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: like you're alluding to with this timer, like you're when
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: given the opportunity to show yourselves as anything other than
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: human suits full of rats, all you do is show
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: your fact that you're a human suit full of rats.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Like there's no there's no connective tissue with any of
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: these people to reality. And it's strange to me because
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the way that these people are received by so many
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: people in our culture is like they're there's someone worth idolizing,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and there's someone worth uh, you know, following and really
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: like propping up and putting on a pedestal, and and
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: and in my and in my mind, all I can
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: think is like, do you actually sit for two seconds
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and look at the way they are? You just are
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: envious of what they have, which I understand. I mean,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I do understand that as much as you do. Like,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: look at the opulence on screen, look at the look
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: at the overwhelming amount of money and power and fame
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: and success. Look there's Elon Musk, and there's Jeff Bezos
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and there's jd. Vance, none of whom are credited in
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: the movie, by the way, which is the funniest park.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: They didn't want to be in their own movie that
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: they all paid for together. Who to thunk it. I
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: think people in our society are obviously very much engaged
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: with what the Trumps have, and I think what they believe,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: what the Trumps stand for means something different to most people.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if the Trumps stand for anything
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: on the face of themselves. I think they stand for
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: whatever makes them the most amount of money at the time.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Because when given the opportunity to make a genuine documentary,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: they took the opportunity to just make a fluff a
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: complete fluff piece. There's no need for it. There isn't
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: like you you could have made a real documentary here
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and actually like engage the audience in a way that
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: would have been humanizing for Malania Trump. If you're in
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: if your whole purpose behind this movie is to humanize
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Malania Trump, you failed, you failed, You failed, you failed,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: you failed. It's like it's in a lot of ways.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: It's like if we followed Jessica Walters's character from Arrested
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Development for an hour and a half, Like, she's probably
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: not really doing anything interesting. It might be interrupted by
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: a small interesting thing happening, but for the most part,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: she's just a rich woman going about her rich woman day.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: But she's a rich woman who's disconnected from reality, which
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: is to say she's a rich woman.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, do you think there's something
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: too like people that watch this or you know that
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: enjoy this?
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: What what? What universe? Is that one Trump universe?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: But do you think there's something to like what you're saying?
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: They see the opulence on the screen, and it's like
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: in their mind, is it a Oh, they're powerful, successful,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: They should be where they're at, and this makes me
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: happy and secure, powerful and successful and rich people are
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: making the decisions.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like there's part of that here,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you know the I mean, people voted for Donald Trump
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: because they perceived him to be a successful businessman when
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: the guy has not run a successful business ever. Really,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: his businesses have gone bankrupt. His brand name is only
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: worthwhile to certain people in certain circles. And now that
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: has exploded beyond its original box that it was in.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I think people in this country that are easily swayed
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: and easily taken advantage of. Look at Donald Trump and
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: what he has, like a fishing lure that's metallic. You
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: see the lure, but you don't see the hookah, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you see the lure, and you see that little piece
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: of metal twisting in the water. And these people, unfortunately
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: have been taken advantage of. And that's the thing. I
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: feel sorry for these people. I don't look at them
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: as morons. I look at the people in charge as
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: people who know how to take advantage of people who
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: are easily swayed by someone who has something to say
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like what you've heard. And I feel
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: bad because there are people in this country who have
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: been taken advantage of by the system so so much
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: that their only course of action was to put their
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: faith behind someone like this. And you know what, maybe
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: there is a universe where someone like Donald Trump did
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: what he said he was going to do in terms
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: of draining the swamp and fixing the system, but he
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: got in there and he just made it worse. He
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: just filled the swamp back up with his own cronies
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: and increased his bottom line and has done nothing else.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: And it's it's not again, this is not me making
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: an opinion, Like some of this has been my opinion,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: but some of this has been fact. Donald Trump and
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: his Trump family have increased their wealth exponentially. I'm sure
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: since becoming president are becoming involved in politics in a
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: substantive way. Grifters are gonna grift, and Trump has been
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: a grifter from day one. He's a snake oil salesman,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: he's a con man. He's a lot of things that
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: are really negative things that you or I would not
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: want someone to perceive us as.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Well as I say, a part of politics that I
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: learned at a very young age, junior high maybe, is
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: that you can't use your position of power to build wealth.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't be allowed to. But yet the people in
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Congress still trade stocks.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't think it was a ever a
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: law that's like been you know, ngrieved into concrete. It's
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: in a gentleman's law.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Well, and again that's where I go back to the
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: idea of like a post ideological society that we live in, because,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: like you said, in an ideological society, someone gets into
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: politics because they want to change things. They want to
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: increase the value of the country. They want to push
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: their ideas and beliefs and thoughts and turn ideas into
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: laws and action. And in this world that we live
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: in now, this is all about increasing your bottom line
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and wealth. Increasing is not an ideological stance. That's just
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: creating wealth. And that's the thing twenty thirty years ago
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: when George Bush invaded the Middle East to stop the
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: WMDs quotation that was being done ostensibly to stop the WNDS.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Now with what we have in this in the world
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: that we live in, in the political sphere of our country,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: we invaded Iran because why no reason given, not even
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: an attempt at a reason given. In this post ideological society,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: people have given up on trying to explain why they
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: want to do things or pretending and just do it
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: because fuck it, nobody cares anymore anyways. And that's so on,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: god damn believably, because to live in a post ideological
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: society is to live in a society not dictated or
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: ruled by anything other than my own personal wants, needs
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: and desires being fulfilled, and as a society of people
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: who have all made a implicit decision to live in
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: at least somewhat observance of the rules. These kinds of
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: people show that not only do I not have to
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: obey the rules, I am above the rules, and the
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: rules don't exist. And when you do that, you cause
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the foundation of our society to erode. You help erode
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: the foundation of our society. And that's what this movie,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: in my mind is all it is, is just it's
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: they've gone into politics and they've eroted it. And now
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: they've come into the film industry and they've eroted it,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: like documentary films as a genre, which I don't care
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: what the fuck they say this movie is. It's a documentary.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Shut fuck up. This isn't a thrillomedy, this isn't a
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: dramamed or whatever the fuck. This is a documentary. This
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: film being given the level of importance it was given
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: by Jeff Bezos and Amazon, the money it was given
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: the theatrical release, which is ostensibly why I'm Malania wanted
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: to go with Amazon is because they were gonna put
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: it in theaters. Okay, sure, whatever. All of that exists
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: now in a society that is not being dictated by
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: anything other than one's personal desires and wants outwardly, And
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: it used to be that was not the case. Outwardly,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: people used to pretend even that they were doing things
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: for ideological reasons. Now it's just I just want money
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: and I'm rich and I don't care, and fuck it
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: and in in, in not taking a stance or having
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: anything to say, they've helped contribute to the erosion of
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: documentary film as a serious art form, even one percent.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: It's not much, but the fact that this film went
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: into theaters, into multiple theaters, large amounts of theaters across country,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: and there are documentaries that aren't getting out there that
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: are much more important, interesting, or timely is disgusting. And
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: the fact that this might be the first documentary that
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: some people see in theaters also disgusting. Like, there's so
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: many amazing film that are documentary films that are about
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the political process or being engaged in politics, or about
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: a politician, you know, just to think of one off
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: the top of my head. The War Room is a
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: great example of politics in the nineties, like or you know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know there. I don't even want to I
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: don't even want to mention anything else at the moment
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: because I want to focus so much on this and
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: how upset it makes me that this is a documentary
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: film in the same world as Werner Herzog's film, as
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Alex Gibney's films, as Errol Morris's film, like and this
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: isn't that like same now umbrella of this is a
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: documentary and it irritates me because as someone who loves film,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: spends every day thinking about film and working in the
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: film industry, this movie being given forty million dollars is
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: thirty nine point nine million dollars more than it needed.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't justify the costs at all, unless you're
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: just giving someone money to pay them, which is what
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: they did.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: So do you think this time next year, when they
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: are doing the Oscars, how many awards you think Milani
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: is gonna be up for over under all of them?
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Best Actress in a Field Malania nominated five times.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Best Supporting Actor, Yeah yeah.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Baron Trump, Best Supporting Actor jd Vance, Yeah yeah, talk
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: talk about really revealing how much Donald and Malania hate
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: each other. Huh. The fact that she did not watch
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: him win the election is the funniest fucking thing possible.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I think I said it when we were watching the movie.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: The funniest thing about this movie is the World's worst man.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Even the world's worst man is vexed by his nag
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: of a wife kuk yuk yuck like, just like even
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: the most of even the world's most terrible man is
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: vexed by his awful wife like like.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Of course, of course, with her saying that she didn't
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: watch it, I couldn't help but wonder why is this
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: in the film. It's such a terrible look.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: That's right, Like the film has made no sense of
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: irony whatsoever, no irony whatsoever.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: The way she talks to him in that phone conversation
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: is like he's a five year old that got a
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: participation award at a science fair, Like, yes, good job,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: you did good. Yes, I'll look at it when I
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: get home.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a participation award, it was a Nobel Peace Prize.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't a science fair. It was FIFA. Mommy, mommy, look,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I got an award. Great, they gave one to everyone. Congratulations.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a good job being elected president. I have
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: to go yell at somebody about the collar on my dress. Right.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: The amount of privilege that these motherfuckers have.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Is just that was another through line of the film.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Look privilege, Look at the opulence. Wow, look at me
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: barfing in my seat.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I loved when during one of the dress fittings, she's like,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I don't like this, Let's cut it, and they're like, yeah, yeah,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: it's just her. Yes, people that are around her, Yes,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: let's cut it. And then the people that actually do
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: the altering are looking at each other like what like
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: and one of them even says, you can't cut that.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the same group of people that thought
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: you could add to fabric after you've cut it. Yeah,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Milania Trump really in the film is like, put the
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: put the fabric back, and it's like, that's not how
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: that work. I would did anything in your life other
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: than sit around.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: But there's some looks that some of those alteration people
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: were giving.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: One another and her.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was fun. If there was, I have my answer.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: There's one character in this film, who who are you
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: rooting for the film to be over to take a character.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, if I were from the film reading for I
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: don't know. That's the thing, Like, I couldn't tell you
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: because there's not really anybody.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you mine Hairve.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Airve Pierre don't root too hard for Airva. Airve got
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: paid one hundred and twenty two thousand dollars as he
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: was leaving the White House the first time. Oh really,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: for strategic consulting.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: He just seems like a nice guy.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Well, when the family is paying her six figures fucking
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: money for making their dresses, I'm sure you'd think they
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: were nice people too.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Oh true. But he's an immigrant that made it. He's
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: an immigrant that made it.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Part of the upper cress cognizania of immigrants who hate
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: other immigrants who haven't made it.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he hates other immigrants.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Right, Sorry, Allegedly self loathing comes in many for you know, Dustin,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about a lot of movies together.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: We were reminiscing the other evening about a rach andophobia,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: a film about spiders, A bunch of spiders, which this
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: movie has in common with a rachnophobia movie about a
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: bunch of fucking spiders. Is this the worst thing that
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: we've ever watched together?
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe? I mean, honestly, I joke about like the hair thing,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: but this is there's really nothing that great about this film.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't eat hate watch it.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: You can't eat it's so boring. It's hard to hate watch.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: It has a couple good moments, like I said, with
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: the immigration stories, but that doesn't set it apart from
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: other movies. It's it's it's almost sad that that's that
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: their stories are buried in this well.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: They had to pat out the forty minutes of her
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: walking around somehow.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is probably the worst one we've done together.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: It's the worst movie I've ever seen in terms of
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the production value behind it.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that ratio is way off.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Movie cost forty million Milania made thirty the film made sixteen. Wow,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: you laundered forty million dollars the hard way.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: There's got to be a better way to do it,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: like some sort of like island in the Maldives or
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: something like, some easier way to do it than like this,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: like you know, maybe selling crypto I don't know, or
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: or selling to the Middle East, like there's plenty of
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: ways to make money, not like they haven't already done
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: those things. So I guess this is just another scheme
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: for scheming money making fucks to do.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: They're saturated every other way to do it, so why
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: not try this?
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Grifter is gonna grift? I mean, I'm waiting for Donald
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: and Malania to write a children's book.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Well, that's probably gonna happen. Yeah, you think there's gonna
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: be a sequel?
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Oh god, Milania too, yep. I'd like for them to
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: get to Malania nine, just so it could finally lean
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: into the the right germanness of it all. Milania n
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: e I N nine.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna be Malania again.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Milania too. Here we grow again. I mean, she does
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: kind of look like the female gremlin from that second
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: movie Oh Man, that one that goes after Robert Piccardo.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: She just kind of look like the female gremlin. Can
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I just say and like this is I know this
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: is gonna strike some people the wrong way, but like
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: what a just distaste person? Milania is just like through
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: and through.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Like my other question, do you think she's gonna show
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: up now that this has happened? The a cameo in
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: certain projects within Amazon or within Oh it's just like
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: a like a stan Lee thing.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah no no no no no no no no no no.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Milania is showing up delivering a letter to somebody, or
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Mulania as a bus driver, Milania as the Watcher, the
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Watcher in Marvel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would, I mean
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: that would be funny. All of a sudden, marvelous miss
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: masl Milania just shows up in fucking Shrieking the Jason
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Siegel Show. She just shows up like.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, did do another home alone movie? And the kids
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: in the hotel and she and she's one pointing him
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: to the bathroom, their.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Small American boy. I don't know if my Milania is
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: on point or not, but it's definitely Eastern European disinterested,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: which I feel like our ways to describe Milania.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: I don't really care as long as it makes me money.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Like it. Our country is in crisis. Our country is
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: in a place that I think a lot of people
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: my age and your age are are disappointed in. And
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I think rightfully, Lisa, and the noise has not gotten quieter,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: it's only gotten louder. And this is a megaphone in
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of ways, like they've taken over everything and
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: movies are no different. It's and it's unfortunate, but you know,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the film industry knows bullshit when it sees it. Nobody
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: went and saw this movie. The people that they wanted
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: to come out for this movie didn't even come and
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: see it. It's like there was a massive red wave
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: and they made all this money on the backs of
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: their supporters. Nobody went saw this shit.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: They haven't bought out theaters just to sell tickets.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Well, WCW was doing that in the nineties, so you know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: failing organizations try to make things look better. I mean,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you know, it's no surprise that during this movie we
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: have a moment where Notald Trump is asking about the
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: size of the groups. Like these people are all about appearances.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: That's all they're about. They have no there's no substance,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: there's no value, there's no anything. They are. They are
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: like they are like what happens when you film advertising
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: for food, but then you expect to be able to
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: eat the food as well. Expectation and reality are significant
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: on opposite they're just on opposite ends of the room.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Like this movie looks well made, but that's not impressive
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: and there's no substance. It's like it's like cheese being
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: sprinkled on cardboard and calling it pizza. Like what, There's
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: no value here, and it's unfortunate. I know that, you know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Michelle Obama's documentary Becoming went up, like the percentage of
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: people watching that went up like thirteen thousand percent or
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: something like. You know, there are good things that come
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: out of this, people being engaged in the opposite direction,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: So there is some positive that can come out of this.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: But I think overall, I think overall, a film like
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: this does not move the needle in any substantive way,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: and I don't think that the people who made it
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: were really trying to anyways. So that brings me to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: one of my last questions here, because I really want
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: to know your thoughts on Brett fucking Rattner. What the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: hell man? Look, I know the guy's had his problems
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: because he's one of those sex pest dudes allegedly, But
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: why you would take on this other than to become
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: a shit heel for the president and his BACKI fucks
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: is beyond me. I mean, I guess he is also
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: an agent of the Israeli state because he's buddies with
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: net and Yahoo. So so that's fun as well. So, boy,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: why don't why don't we just go and just ingratiate
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: ourselves with everybody awful while we're at it. Was he
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: on Epstein Island? He probably was, Oh yeah he was.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's photo evidence of it. As say, my brain
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: goes to, you know, the the bulletin board with his
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: picture with red string drawn two different things, you know, Israel, Epstein, Trump,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: you know, all connected. You know, that's kind of where
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: my brain goes, like, why was he given? Why was
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: he the one tasked with this? There's a reason, you know,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: there is a reason.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I was obviously being very facetious here.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: The reason is is the reasons are many. We are legion,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: The reasons are legion. Like he was on Epstein Island.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: He's part of the me too movement, as in he
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: was a guy accused of rape. He is also kind
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: of a piece of shit. He's also really big fans
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: of and friends with Israel. So you just you know, Israel,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: who we know has helped start this Iranian war. If
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: not are the sole proprietors of why this country is
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: and I is Iranian war that we're currently involved in.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me that this is
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: the guy that they hired. It's just sad because Brett
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Ratner has made some movies that aren't terrible.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Right, No, now, what's the thought process? Though? There is it? Oh,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: let's throw the SKay a bone or he's in the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: ilk or what.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: That's what I think. I think it's the I think
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: it's the this guy is part of the Epstein you know, engagement,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: and so his involvement in this movie is just one
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: more tacit admittance that you guys fucked kids on Epstein Island.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Like if anybody else had directed this, I would have
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: been like, Okay, I don't know why you're directing this.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: But for me, it's like, well, Brett Ratner directed it
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: so he can try to clear his name from the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Epstein stuff, and it's like, maybe don't direct a movie
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: about Donald Trump's wife. Then. Wasn't it Epstein who introduced
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump and his wife?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: According to Mark Wolfe and his book, like, yep, I'm sorry, Like,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: please explain to me why are we Why are we
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: hiring people who are gonna make people who do any
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: amount of research that you are involved in the rape
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: of children. Why didn't they just hire fucking Brian Singer
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: while they're at it? Like real, like Ratner directed a
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: fucking the third Brian Singer X Men movie because Brian
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Singer left. Why didn't they have this? Could have been
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: a co you know what the should have been. There
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: should have been a own co directed by Brian Singer
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: and Brett Ratner and direct and narrated by Kevin Spacey.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Was it like produced by Harvey Weinstein or anything.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: No, not, Shockingly, it wasn't. Somehow that would I mean,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: that would have been that. That would have been the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: only way to really lean into this more than they did,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: would to have Brian Singer and Kevin Spacey involved, the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: other two most well known men in the industry in
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: terms of sexual assault allegation.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you see Kevin Spacey at like the head table
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: at the ball.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I mean having to see Elon Musk and Bezos is
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: bad enough. It's like, we get it. You guys are
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: all incestuous billionaire fucks. We get it. I understand. Like,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: you know, the film industry itself is very incestuous. You
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: know as someone who now works for as the chief
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: development officer for a physical distribution company. Our network of
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: people is insanely incestuous. There are people weaving in and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: out of our things all over the place. So I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: get it like politics are the same way, and so
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: is apparently the world of sexual assaulting children. So great
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: all the terrible people congregate together. Who to thunk? I
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: hope that we don't get more movies like this that
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: are taken as seriously as this one, because this movie
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: deserves to be relegated to the trash bin of film history,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: just like Denesh Dessuz's film. They're not serious films, not
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: being made by serious people. And the fact that this
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: is being attempted to be portrayed that way, I think
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: speaks volumes of the lack of self awareness of everyone
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: involved in the making of and I think it also
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: just speaks to the privilege of the people who benefited
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: financially from this movie that they thought they were important
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: enough to be the subject of a forty million dollar document.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to make a prediction this is just the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: first installment in the Trump Cinematic Universe TCU. Yeah, and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: we're gonna see other movies, Eric Hornine, Don Jube, Eric
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Don Junior, who's the lesser known sister Tiffany or something
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Trump Yeah a bunka.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Well, supposedly a docuseries is being made off of this
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: film see TCU. I will say that if that docuseries
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: comes out, I think we have unfortunately signed ourselves up
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: to cover it, because I don't think many people have
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: covered this film, and I don't like that we did,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: because we've given this film an hour and a half
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: more than it deserved, and we've given it more credibility
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: than it needed. But at the same time, I think
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: if people in our industry are ignoring it, you're missing
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: the like this is unignorable at this point, So stop
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: pretending like you know. This is not a position I
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: like being in as a film reviewer or as a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: film critique critique as in Critic and the Bad.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well you said it was one hundred and four minutes.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: Sixty four of it was what I talked about earlier,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: with the walking and the dresses and the interior designers.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: And then I'll even be a little more conservative and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: say twenty minutes of it was about immigrants, like immigrants
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: sharing their and how they've come to be in the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: positions that they're in, or her mom, which Lee. So
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: that's eighty four minutes. So out of one hundred and
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: four minutes, that's twenty minutes left of B role, which
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: some of that B role is mixed in with what
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: we've already talked about, and just playing of clips from
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: what has happened in history, the inauguration, things like that.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: That's really all it is.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would hope that time is unkind to this film.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I would hope that we as a society will continue
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: to be unkind and unwavering in our rejection long term
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: of these kinds of beliefs and these kinds of people's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: kind of involvement in the arts. And I'm not saying
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: if you have a viewpoint I don't agree with, you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: can't be involved in the arts. I'm not saying. I'm
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: just saying, if you're going to be involved in the arts,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: do it for the right reason. Because being involved in
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: the arts to be financially wealthy because you can game
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: the system is about as sad of a sack of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: shit thing to do is humanly possible, And yet here
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: we are because that's what you've done. There are people
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: in this industry that work a hell of a lot
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: harder and do a hell of.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: A lot for beta hell of l and got to
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: do it, and.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Do it for a hell of a lot less than
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars to walk around and be annoyed
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: seemingly by film a film crew. I wish this movie
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: had something to say. I wish this movie had a viewpoint,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: or an idea, or a notion or anything other than
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: swearing fealty and sycophancy to a group of people who
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: are so reprehensible and deplorable that no amount of film
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: washing their image is going to change how absolutely terrible
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: of human deeds are. And this film is just one
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: more notch in a very long belt of notches with
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: notches in it of terrible things about these people that
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: they don't seemingly have the self awareness to understand how
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: terrible it really is and how terrible truly. And to
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: have a woman who's an immigrant with immigrants surrounding here
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: working for her be married to the most infamous immigrant
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: hate of the last twenty thirty years is pretty ironic.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: And the optics just go right over your head. So
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: this movie deserves to be taken out into the woodshed
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: of history and beaten to death slowly and then buried
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: in a very shallow grave for other filmmakers to come
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: by and look at and go. This is what happens
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: when you make bullshit like this. Huh, people reject you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: in your career entirely. Like I hope Brett Ratner's ability
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: to direct films is significantly diminished moving forward, because the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: person whose career should take a real hit as his,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: because he should have known better, even if he's involved
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: in Epstein Island and everything else, he should have known better,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: because Bro, this is clown shit, even for you, it's clownshit.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I would rather have directed Master of Disguise. So on
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: that uplifting note, if you want to listen to me
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: and my you know, clearly left leaning opinions on films,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: you can go on over to the culture Cast, which
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: is my podcast, which is part of the weirding Way
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Media network family, which is a family of podcasts creators
• 1:09:00
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