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This 1990 Film Accidentally Started Flat Earth Movement (In search of the Edge) · Under the Docs

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Speaker 1: They don't want you thinking you can sell off the
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Speaker 1: edge of the earth because that hurts business.
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Speaker 2: Under the docks.
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Speaker 1: And be careful when you're sailing on this one. This
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Speaker 1: is in Search of the Edge. It's a Canadian short
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Speaker 1: documentary film by Scott Barry at least in nineteen ninety
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Speaker 1: and it is about flat Earth. And it's literally about
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Speaker 1: if you go to the edge of the flat Earth,
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Speaker 1: you might sail right off the damn edge. So just
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Speaker 1: just be careful on this one, all right? Plotting the course,
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Speaker 1: I guess I need to be up front here. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know this going in, but on the wiki page
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Speaker 1: for in Search of the Edge, it notes that this
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Speaker 1: is a mockumentary that originally this was conceived as an
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Speaker 1: educational film on on media literacy and critical thinking skills,
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Speaker 1: so they made it as a tongue in cheek, very deadpan,
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Speaker 1: very serious mockumentary that's supposed to debunk flat earth theory
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Speaker 1: by presenting it as if it were true and then
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Speaker 1: trying to make the claims so over the top and
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Speaker 1: absurd that as you're watching it, you're like, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: this can't be true. I don't know if that's actually
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Speaker 1: how it plays out, though we'll find out. It opens
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Speaker 1: up with a completely fictional story about a completely fictional
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Speaker 1: person called Andrea Barnes, who apparently was this fictional scientist
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Speaker 1: who disappeared in Antarctica after she was searching for the
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Speaker 1: literal edge of the Earth that was hidden by like
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Speaker 1: an ice wall, and she finds it and she leaves
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Speaker 1: a little note behind, but she doesn't leave any other evidence.
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Speaker 1: So the whole entire the all twenty five minutes of
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Speaker 1: this documentary is about Andrea Barnes and all the research
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Speaker 1: that led her to looking for this flat Earth. And
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Speaker 1: also the director for this worked The Grassy High and
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Speaker 1: worked on like Edison Twins Mysterious Island, so he had
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Speaker 1: worked in media before and TV shows and movies. So
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Speaker 1: this wasn't the first documentary. And I didn't know it
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Speaker 1: was a mockumentary going in, so I just got to
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Speaker 1: put that on the table.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I didn't know at first either, and then like you
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Speaker 5: had got to watch the film before me, so it
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Speaker 5: kind of broke down. So at first though, as I'm
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Speaker 5: watching it too, I'm like, maybe he's wrong, because it
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Speaker 5: did seem pretty like serious, right, Like it's very serious.
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't know unless someone told you was a mockumentary
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Speaker 1: going in. You wouldn't know, especially if you're familiar with
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Speaker 1: flat earth claims. Now in twenty twenty five, you watch
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Speaker 1: this and you're like, oh, yeah, I've heard this before,
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Speaker 1: Like this is this is all real.
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Speaker 6: And this is from nineteen ninety bro, that's what's crazy.
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Speaker 1: So the fictional aspect, and this is the only part
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Speaker 1: that seems one hundred percent fictional. The rest they kind
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Speaker 1: of sprinkle in fact. But the premise is that there's
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Speaker 1: this girl Andrea Barnes and she as she's growing up
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Speaker 1: in school, she's protesting the globes because she doesn't believe
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Speaker 1: in a spherical earth, right, And she realizes the only
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Speaker 1: way that the teachers and the other students will stop
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Speaker 1: laughing at her because she believes in flat earth is
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Speaker 1: that she proves it to everyone. So at the age
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Speaker 1: of sixty three, in nineteen sixty one, she goes to Antarctica.
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Speaker 1: On December eighteenth, they say that the weather turned against her,
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Speaker 1: and then on Christmas Day, December twenty fifth, nineteen sixty one,
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Speaker 1: her radio contact was cut off and we never see
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Speaker 1: her again. That's like the only obvious fictional part. And
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Speaker 1: there's a couple telltale signs that I'll mention a little
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Speaker 1: bit later on. But here's the premise of this documentary.
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Speaker 1: That the Earth is not a sphere. It's a circular
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Speaker 1: dish that's basically surrounded by a barrier of ice, and
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Speaker 1: that explores have been trying to penetrate this barrier of
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Speaker 1: ice for centuries, and that essentially the Church of England
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Speaker 1: and academia and the powers that be are constantly pushing
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Speaker 1: for a spherical earth because a spherical earth is more
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Speaker 1: conducive to commerce. So any businessmen they want, they don't
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Speaker 1: want you thinking you can sell off the edge of
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Speaker 1: the earth because that hurts business. And to say that
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Speaker 1: you can just keep sailing in any direction and you'll
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Speaker 1: never fall off the edge of the earth and you'll
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Speaker 1: eventually always get to where you're going. That's great for business.
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Speaker 1: That's that's kind of like the main premise of why
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Speaker 1: this lie even exists to begin with.
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Speaker 5: Earth is flat, so it's called round so we can
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Speaker 5: make money. Yeah, that's pretty much sums it up. Money
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Speaker 5: equals round Earth.
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Speaker 1: So here these are claims that I swear if we
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Speaker 1: went and put on a flat Earth documentary that came
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Speaker 1: out this year or last year, you're gonna hear the
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Speaker 1: exact same claims in a new one versus this mockumentary
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Speaker 1: from the nineties. One of them was that two thousand
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Speaker 1: years ago that Aratus Themes tried to prove the Earth
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Speaker 1: was a sphere by going to two different cities there
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Speaker 1: were like five hundred or six hundred miles apart, and
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Speaker 1: he noticed that the sun was at a certain angle
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Speaker 1: in one city, and then when he went to the
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Speaker 1: other city that at the exact same time of day,
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Speaker 1: the sun is at a slight change, it's a slight
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Speaker 1: angle off, and that this was one of the original
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Speaker 1: proof that we've got. So then we've got this guy
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Speaker 1: called doctor Leb Ferrari. And these are all real people
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Speaker 1: by the way, that are like talking in this documentary series,
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Speaker 1: and I did some background research on him. But he's
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Speaker 1: explaining that in the first century, how did he know
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Speaker 1: that the sun was at this different location at this
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Speaker 1: exact same time of day, Like he didn't have an
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Speaker 1: atomic watch, he didn't have a stop watch. They're kind
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Speaker 1: of like poking holes in this theory that like how
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Speaker 1: much could this guy have known two thousand years ago,
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Speaker 1: which is again, this is something that you will hear
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Speaker 1: brought up in a modern flatter documentary.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of the arguments.
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Speaker 5: The thing that got me that like threw me off
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Speaker 5: is that you had a ready told me as a mockumentary.
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Speaker 5: So like when they go to the guy that's interviewing everybody,
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Speaker 5: like if you like look at him, he makes me
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Speaker 5: laugh the whole time, Like he's like and he's like
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Speaker 5: he has these weird like he just looks funny to
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Speaker 5: like a mister being character kind of.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, the whole entire documentary is done so serious
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Speaker 1: you never get for a second that this is a documentary.
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Speaker 1: In fact, even after I'm done watching it, I was like,
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Speaker 1: was it a moth? Like I couldn't tell, because I
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Speaker 1: swear I've seen this research presented in a non mockumentary
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Speaker 1: fashion so many times. The next one, they bring up
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Speaker 1: Poptolemy and that how he thought the Earth was flat
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Speaker 1: and circular, and that this went unchallenged for twelve hundred years,
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Speaker 1: and that the documentary is kind of like which is
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Speaker 1: not surprising. One only need to look around at the
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Speaker 1: world around us to like prove like this whole like
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Speaker 1: hey bro, or if your normal eye vision says that
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Speaker 1: it's a certain way, that's got to be the way
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Speaker 1: it is. Then they talked about how the Renaissance came
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Speaker 1: and that during the Renaissance, artists and writers and scientists
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Speaker 1: were all broke and that they couldn't survive on their
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Speaker 1: own work anymore and they needed sponsors. And the way
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Speaker 1: that you would get sponsors is you would just come
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Speaker 1: up with some crazy theory about like the Earth being
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Speaker 1: a sphere, and if you did that, and then everyone's like, wow,
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Speaker 1: that guy just said something crazy, let's go fund him
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Speaker 1: with money. So they lead you into this premise that
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Speaker 1: the only reason scientists started talking about a spherical earth
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Speaker 1: was because they needed money from sponsors, and it was
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Speaker 1: like the hot thing of the time, and that in
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Speaker 1: fifteen forty three, Copernicus suggests that the Earth is a
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Speaker 1: round ball that's revolving around the Sun. But then the
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Speaker 1: documentary is like, but that was just a hypothesis. And
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Speaker 1: he didn't even come out with his book for over
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Speaker 1: thirteen years, and you know what happened the day he
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Speaker 1: published it. He died, So how right could he have been?
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Speaker 1: It's kind of funny how they pitched that, but again
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Speaker 1: they're not doing it like to make you laugh about it.
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Speaker 1: They're actually making it a point, like how smart could
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Speaker 1: this guy have been if he publishes his book and
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Speaker 1: he dies the day he published? I mean, spoil alerts
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Speaker 1: because the church killed him because this was, you know, blasphemous.
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Speaker 5: My favorite part of the whole film so far was
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Speaker 5: when they were talking about going on a ship and
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Speaker 5: you should be going faster because you'd be going downhill.
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Speaker 1: There's other they talk about Edmund Halley, which is the
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Speaker 1: Halley's comment and that he thought the Earth was a
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Speaker 1: whole bunch of different concentric spheres, and that each it's
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Speaker 1: like a Russian nesting doll, and that each sphiracle globe
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Speaker 1: inside the next supported its own version of life. And
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Speaker 1: then they mentioned this guy Marshall B. Gardner, who thought
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Speaker 1: the same thing, but that the Earth was hollow and
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Speaker 1: there was a little internal sun and inside of this
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Speaker 1: hollow earth. So they're kind of like making fun of
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Speaker 1: these other spherical globe hypotheses, and then it kind of
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Speaker 1: like draws you to where they think the ultimate conspiracy is.
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Speaker 1: And again this is a very popular one in modern
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Speaker 1: flat earth conspiracy, and it's that in the sixteenth century,
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Speaker 1: the Church of England gets established and that it's embracing
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Speaker 1: these radical suggestions like Copernicus around earth theory, and that
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Speaker 1: through the Church embracing it, then it finds its way
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Speaker 1: into schools because schools are controlled by the Church. And
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Speaker 1: that this is why even today in twenty twenty five
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Speaker 1: or twenty twenty six, now that kids are still being
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Speaker 1: taught about a spherical earth. It's because the Church of
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Speaker 1: England set this in motion in the sixteenth century. So
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Speaker 1: five centuries later we're basically still being lied to by
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Speaker 1: the Vatican.
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Speaker 6: It seems true to me.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad. And then they have a guy named George
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Speaker 1: Vanderkerr who is an actual professor at the Erindale Academy,
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Speaker 1: and he's making an argument for the world being flat because,
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Speaker 1: like you mentioned, he said that if it were spherical,
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Speaker 1: boats would constantly be sailing downward. You'd always be on
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Speaker 1: like a going over a curve downwards. And he also
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Speaker 1: makes this point that the tops of buildings would have
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Speaker 1: to be bigger at the top than they are at
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Speaker 1: the bottom because you kind of have to watch it
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Speaker 1: for the logic on how he describes this, but it
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Speaker 1: has some of this like, well, if you think about it,
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Speaker 1: if if this means this, then this has to mean this.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of this conspiratorial logic, which I'm a fan of,
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Speaker 1: but it shows you how they're putting this together. And
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Speaker 1: then they mentioned how the Copernicus idea of this ball
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Speaker 1: that you couldn't fall off of again was favored by
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Speaker 1: business and that it was a strong pr boost for
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Speaker 1: free enterprise and eventually amounted to just a publicity stunt
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Speaker 1: that the whole the earth is a ball was just
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Speaker 1: a business publicity stunt. We also hear about a book
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Speaker 1: from eighteen sixty five called Earth Not a Globe by
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Speaker 1: a guy that called himself Parallax, and he was an
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Speaker 1: early anti globularist is what they call it now, you
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Speaker 1: call him like a Baltart or whatever. Right, But I
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Speaker 1: had to look this one up too, because, again, knowing
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Speaker 1: that this is a mockumentary going in, I'm like, is
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Speaker 1: any of this true? No, it's all this is true
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Speaker 1: except for the the Andrea Barnes part. This is a
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Speaker 1: real book from eighteen sixty five by a guy that
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Speaker 1: called himself Parallax, and it's called Earth Is Not a
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Speaker 1: Globe and it's still cited again today in modern flat
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Speaker 1: earth theory. They also get into the old Bedford level,
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Speaker 1: which is also called the Bedford level experiment. And this
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Speaker 1: is because there's this canal that goes for six miles
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Speaker 1: a straight shot, and according to the spherical earth theory
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Speaker 1: that there's a certain drop, right, and this is where
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Speaker 1: almost all the flat earth theories usually wind up in
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Speaker 1: this drop. And apparently if you were to look straight
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Speaker 1: over six miles, the documentary claims that there should be
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Speaker 1: a sixteen foot drop, Actually you do the math. It's
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Speaker 1: supposed to be twenty four foot drops. It's supposed to
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Speaker 1: be even more extreme. And the counter act to this
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Speaker 1: is that if you go onto this Bedford level canal
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Speaker 1: and you take a telescope and you watch a boat
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Speaker 1: holding a flag sail all six miles away from you,
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Speaker 1: that at no point or once it gets six miles away,
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Speaker 1: rather you look at it on a telescope, you can
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Speaker 1: see the entire flag in the entire boat, none of
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Speaker 1: it's missing. Therefore, the claim is that that drop doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1: So this is one of the biggest points of evidence
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Speaker 1: that flat Earth will usually come out with, is this
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Speaker 1: Bedford level experiment. We also get photos from space. They're
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Speaker 1: talking about astronauts from outer space or taking pictures of
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Speaker 1: the Earth, and the Earth is showing that it's curve
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Speaker 1: in this ball and they're saying that, no, it's the
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Speaker 1: light that's bending making the flat Earth look like it's
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Speaker 1: a sphere, and that is all NASA photoshop. And then
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Speaker 1: it gets into the one that I think I hear
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Speaker 1: repeated even more than the Bedford level experiment, and this
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Speaker 1: is if the Earth is spinning one thousand miles an hour,
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Speaker 1: right now, Like, how come I don't feel it? Like
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Speaker 1: if I'm in a car and I stick my hand
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Speaker 1: out the window going fifty, I can feel the air.
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Speaker 1: So how come if I go outside right now and
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Speaker 1: I hold my hand up in the air, I don't
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Speaker 1: feel us going one thousand miles an hour around? And
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Speaker 1: that's kind of like checkmate, you know, globalists.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it will rip off your arm.
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Speaker 1: In search of the edge, hidden treasures overboard moments you go.
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Speaker 5: My hidden treasure is this entire piece, because I'm wondering
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Speaker 5: did somebody stumble upon this as a real documentary, because
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Speaker 5: there is information that is like you know, you can
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Speaker 5: verify and there is this the reason why the flat
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Speaker 5: Earth movement that jumped big time after like you know,
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Speaker 5: twenty ten, twenty twelve, if they got a lot of
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Speaker 5: the information from this mockumentary.
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Speaker 1: To me, yeah, the hidden treasure is that even like
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Speaker 1: if you didn't know this was a mockumentary, I don't
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Speaker 1: think you would realize it after watching it. It's not
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Speaker 1: that obvious. If you do some research on it, you'll
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Speaker 1: see things saying it was a mocumentary. But even after
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Speaker 1: I watched it, I'm just sitting here thinking like how
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Speaker 1: could this be a mockumentary. It's literally like if you
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Speaker 1: just took out the Andrea barn stuff and left everything
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Speaker 1: else in there. It is every other flat Earth non
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Speaker 1: mockumentary doc that I've ever seen, right, So they do
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Speaker 1: it so deadpan it is impossible to tell that it's
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Speaker 1: a mockumentary. It's it's almost like too good for its
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Speaker 1: own good in that regard. It's so subtle that the
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Speaker 1: only evidence that you really as I'm watching this without
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Speaker 1: doing the research, the only thing that stands out, like, okay,
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Speaker 1: they're they're joking around now, is they talk about at
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Speaker 1: the end, they go to where Andrea Barnes was last
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Speaker 1: seen and they see a little handwritten note that's like
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Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw the edge and I have
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Speaker 1: a picture of it. But she left the camera shut
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Speaker 1: her open, so the film gets overexposed, so you don't
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Speaker 1: get to see the visual proof of it. And that's
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Speaker 1: how it ends. Sink or swim, man.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it a swim just because the fact
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Speaker 5: that I think this is what has got a lot
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Speaker 5: of this flat Earth lore that we hear.
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Speaker 1: Today, I think, yeah, this one, I'm gonna have to
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Speaker 1: give it a swim because it seems mandatory watching. Whether
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Speaker 1: you are pro flat earth, whether you're anti flat earth,
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Speaker 1: if you think it's silly, this does seem like one
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Speaker 1: of the very first documentaries ever on this subject. And
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Speaker 1: part of the reason why it's so hard to tell
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Speaker 1: the difference is because the people that are being interviewed.
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Speaker 1: One of them is actually a member of like the
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Speaker 1: Flat Earth Society in the nineteen nineties, but he wasn't
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Speaker 1: a part of the Flatter Society because he believed in
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Speaker 1: flat earth. He was part of the Flatter Society because
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Speaker 1: of how interesting the logic was that would make someone
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Speaker 1: be part of that group. So it was like this
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Speaker 1: weird intellectual endeavor almost And again, if you can look
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Speaker 1: up the actual producer of this film, it's called Bullfrog Films,
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Speaker 1: and they have a PDF that explains the entire background
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Speaker 1: premise and where they got the research and why they
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Speaker 1: presented the research in certain ways. But again it's it's
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Speaker 1: still blowing my mind even right now, realizing that this
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be a mockumentary. But again it's it
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Speaker 1: was way too nuanced for any of that.
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Speaker 9: they going It's still You're welcome.