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Tom Zawistowski - WeThePeopleConvention.org · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: So five the fifty five kre CD talk station. Brian
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  Speaker 1: Thomas right here, wishing everyone very happy Tuesday, and welcoming
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  Speaker 1: back to the Pitty five carrec Morning Show. It's becoming
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  Speaker 1: a recurring being weekly on the fifty five CARC Morning
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  Speaker 1: Show from We the People Convention dot Org. Check it
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  Speaker 1: to the morning show, Tom Zawastowski. It's always a pleasure
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  Speaker 1: to having you on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 3: Glad to be on the talk with you about these
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  Speaker 3: important issues for our country, because boy, so like every
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  Speaker 3: day you know, there's something new and they're all important.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm glad we get to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they are so over here and I'm using my
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  Speaker 1: hand motion over here. We have the Save Act photo
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  Speaker 1: ID requirement. Of course, Donald Trump says that you need
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  Speaker 1: the Save Act passed before he's going to sign anything else,
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  Speaker 1: including opening up the opening the government back up. I
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  Speaker 1: know this negotiation is still going on, but during our
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  Speaker 1: conversation today, the alternative may be this constitutional amendment that
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  Speaker 1: is proposed by the US Citizens Vote. That's an organization
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  Speaker 1: that's been behind constitutional amendments before the Americans for citizen
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  Speaker 1: voting organization. But the actual constitutional amendment is called I
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  Speaker 1: guess the United States Citizens Vote Amendment, which Congresswoman Laurel
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  Speaker 1: Lee introduced. So it's a proposed constitutional amendment introduced in
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  Speaker 1: the House. So how will this work? Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: first off, what does it do as distinct from the
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  Speaker 1: Save Act. Obviously, this is a constitutional amendment, which means
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  Speaker 1: our elected officials can't go and unring the bell like
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  Speaker 1: an all democratic Congress could go in and repeal the
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  Speaker 1: Save Act down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: And again, Brin, I don't know if you were surprised
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  Speaker 3: as I was when I said this to you, because
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea that we even.
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  Speaker 2: Needed this, right, So why do we need this? That's
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  Speaker 2: what Tom.
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  Speaker 1: That was my reaction to Strecker because the verbiage he
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  Speaker 1: had on the rundown was one thing, and I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at this constitutional amendment. Go one, wait a second, does
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  Speaker 1: Tom want to talk about the Save actors? You want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the Constitution mementis the Constitution amendment is
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  Speaker 1: US state United States Citizens Vote Amendment. So explain to
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  Speaker 1: my listeners, and you can, of course a couple of
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  Speaker 1: double down. Explain it to me why this separate thing
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  Speaker 1: may be better or is even being proposed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so here's the part that shocked me.
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  Speaker 3: Because we're fighting like heck for the Save Act because
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  Speaker 3: what do we want to do. We want to stop
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  Speaker 3: illegals illegals from voting in federal elections. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Save Act, you know, is basically saying you got
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  Speaker 3: to show proof of citizenship to register and then when
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  Speaker 3: you show up to vote. However, little did I know
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  Speaker 3: that the US Constitution actually provides a loophole for states
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  Speaker 3: where if a state, let's say a blue state, we
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  Speaker 3: passed the Save Act, and now the radical left is
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  Speaker 3: really upset. So in California they decide to vote to
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  Speaker 3: allow illegals to vote in their state elections for governor,
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  Speaker 3: for House, and for Senate in their state elections. Under
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  Speaker 3: the US Constitution, that would then make those illegals elder
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  Speaker 3: to vote in the federal elections despite what the Save.
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  Speaker 2: Access it's in the constitution. I didn't know that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think you knew that.
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  Speaker 3: No, so this is to try to fix that loophole,
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  Speaker 3: to close it all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, in this the concept which makes me scratch
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  Speaker 1: my head over why the Save Act is being fought
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  Speaker 1: against so hard by Democrats the idea of citizen only voting.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw the polling information that was provided along
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  Speaker 1: with this, but it's consistent with prior and prior polling
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  Speaker 1: and won't surprise my listeners. Republicans ninety nine percent say
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  Speaker 1: only citizens should vote, Democrats seventy eight percent say only
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  Speaker 1: citizens of vote, and then you have nonpartisan folks ninety
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  Speaker 1: two percent of which say only citizens should vote. So overall,
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  Speaker 1: when you crunch all the numbers together, this is a
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  Speaker 1: ninety ten issue.
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  Speaker 2: Tom.
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  Speaker 1: So this isn't something we should really argue about. But
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  Speaker 1: in terms of process, this constitutional amendment will solve the
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  Speaker 1: problem that you just described, but also stands I would argue,
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  Speaker 1: given that polling information, but also the way the constitutional
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  Speaker 1: amendments are passed, that this is going to be ratified
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  Speaker 1: by a popular vote of the people. So if voters
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  Speaker 1: in thirty eight states vote in the majority, it's in
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  Speaker 1: the constitution, and that's I.
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  Speaker 2: Think the key.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know, you mentioned rightfully that this particular
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  Speaker 3: organization has been involved with other amendment efforts in the past,
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  Speaker 3: and I think what they're doing here is two things
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  Speaker 3: one is they're they're going to make the Democrats have this,
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  Speaker 3: you know, be exposed because you know, in your state,
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  Speaker 3: if they don't vote for this, if it's on the ballot,
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  Speaker 3: if the Democrats in like your legislature will not agree
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  Speaker 3: to put it on the ballot, they're going to have
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  Speaker 3: to own that on election day. And that's a win
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  Speaker 3: for Republicans. But the other part of it is they're
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  Speaker 3: using the the same method that was used to repeal Prohibition.
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  Speaker 3: So this is not like an Article five convention anything.
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  Speaker 3: This is an actual by popular vote situation. And so
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  Speaker 3: they what I think they're actually trying to do and
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  Speaker 3: why I'm kind of getting involved in support in it
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  Speaker 3: that they want to make it.
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  Speaker 2: They want to prove that.
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  Speaker 3: We the people can pass constitutional amendments we're up till now,
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of it's because the Article five convention
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  Speaker 3: stuff has just been going for so long and not
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  Speaker 3: getting anywhere that we really don't believe we can do it,
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  Speaker 3: that we can make changes to the Constitution. This seems
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  Speaker 3: like a you know, with a ninety percent approval. I
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  Speaker 3: think they believe we can get this done. And I
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  Speaker 3: kind of like the fact that we the people would
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  Speaker 3: have a say in it. So in Ohio, look, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they've already put it forward in the Congress, and then
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  Speaker 3: what's next is we will be working here in Ohio
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  Speaker 3: to get it on the ballot so that the constitutional
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  Speaker 3: amendment can pass by thirty eight states.
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  Speaker 1: So that right there is the challenge and that this
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  Speaker 1: challenge is for all states getting it on the ballot.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that you know that again, I think
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  Speaker 3: you got to have an issue that's ninety ten in
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  Speaker 3: order to kind of compel the legislators like who's against this?
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  Speaker 3: You know, why would you be against only citizens you
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  Speaker 3: can vote?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Would you be against that? So we I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but they'll find a way. The Democrats will give you
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  Speaker 3: some crazy, you know, explanation of how it's suppressing the vote.
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  Speaker 2: Even though they claim. You know, I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: really fun.
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  Speaker 3: What John Houston did you have to the Democrats on
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  Speaker 3: the say back when.
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  Speaker 2: They said, oh, we're we're you know, against non citizens voting.
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  Speaker 3: And then John Houston amended the say back and said,
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  Speaker 3: well then let's just vote, you know, let's just pass
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  Speaker 3: that part.
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  Speaker 2: And what they do they rejected it.
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  Speaker 3: So that's been a valuable, you know, process for us
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  Speaker 3: to expose them because they're just lying. It's real simple, Brent,
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  Speaker 3: It's real simple. The illegals are voting for them by
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  Speaker 3: the tens of millions. And if they don't, if they
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  Speaker 3: if they don't stop the say back, if they don't
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  Speaker 3: stop this constitutional amendment, if they don't stop us from
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  Speaker 3: cleaning the voting rules, they're going to lose like never before.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why they're fighting so hard.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what's the timeframe for this again? If voters in
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight states vote for this amendment by majority, it's
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  Speaker 1: it becomes part of the constitution. If let's say only
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight states present this on a ballot, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you can do it by November, but if
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  Speaker 1: they do, that's it. The process is over and it's
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  Speaker 1: an amendment and it's ratified and it's part of the constitution.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, the blue states can't say, well, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to vote on it. No, you
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  Speaker 1: didn't present it to the voters for an option, right.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And that so there's that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's a really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Game going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that involves the grassroots in all states, including some
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  Speaker 3: Blue states, and you know, this group seems to be
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  Speaker 3: you know, really well organized to you know, to push
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  Speaker 3: it forward.
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  Speaker 2: And so we're going to see.
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  Speaker 3: But I just thought I wanted to present to your
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  Speaker 3: listeners that, you know, there's other ways to approach this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and I find it interesting that no Blue state yet
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  Speaker 3: has voted in their legislatures to allow illegals to vote
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  Speaker 3: in their elections, but they sure don't mind them being
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  Speaker 3: the voter role so they can vote in federal elections.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we know how these laws dying committee have, have
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  Speaker 1: those things been proposed at least in blue states? Has
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  Speaker 1: this option to vote on this amendment? Like, is it
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  Speaker 1: in committee somewhere and it won't be advanced because some
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  Speaker 1: leftists refuses to present it to the broader house in
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  Speaker 1: any given state or they just haven't even bothered looking
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  Speaker 1: into it.
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  Speaker 3: No, it actually it's actually been on the ballot and
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  Speaker 3: multiple states, including you know, Ohio in twenty let's see here,
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the thing.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, there was an amendment that was put up in
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  Speaker 3: Ohio to support this, and now twenty twenty six, it's
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  Speaker 3: on the ballot in Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas, South Dakota, and
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia. So you know, I think they've been working
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  Speaker 3: on this for a while, but I think the Save
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  Speaker 3: Acts is giving them some momentum to bring to our attention.
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  Speaker 3: Loout the Constitution actually gives them the back door to
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  Speaker 3: completely blow the.
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  Speaker 2: Sayack away even if we pass it.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, man, never fix Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: that's nothing that's never been raised here in the Morning Show,
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  Speaker 1: nor have I seen it reported along those lines.
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  Speaker 2: Tom.
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  Speaker 1: That's just it's an eye open, right open, eye open
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  Speaker 1: for my listening audience as well. How about the timeframe
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the passage. Once a state offers the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity and the citizens vote on it, Let's say they
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  Speaker 1: vote in favor of this constitutional amendment. Does that vote
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  Speaker 1: hold and last beyond any given legislative session or they
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  Speaker 1: have to bring it back up to the top. Are
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  Speaker 1: we already on record? And does that last? How do
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  Speaker 1: you How long can you does it take to you
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  Speaker 1: before you can accumulate the thirty eight states? You need
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  Speaker 1: to pass this?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as I understand it, If it passes, then it
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  Speaker 3: stays on the record until you know you get you
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  Speaker 3: get the thirty eight and the only way it actually
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  Speaker 3: dies is if you never get the thirty eight, which
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  Speaker 3: is kind of what we've seen with the Article five conventions, right.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's it's a process. Now.
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  Speaker 3: These guys though, they're on the fast track. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they're talking to me about, hey, Tom, can you help
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  Speaker 3: us yo here in Ohio like right now? And there
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  Speaker 3: you know, as you can see, they've actually proposed.
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  Speaker 2: It in the House.
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  Speaker 3: And I understand that Jim Jordan was involved with them,
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  Speaker 3: you know, coming and saying we want to do this,
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  Speaker 3: and he is for it and is going to help
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  Speaker 3: push for it at the federal level.
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  Speaker 2: It has to pass you know, Congress.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, well, you know, where are you going
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  Speaker 3: to get the Democrats to vote for this? And they
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  Speaker 3: seem to think that there are some Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: That will vote for this. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I said to them, let me see that at the
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  Speaker 3: federal level.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do our part.
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  Speaker 3: At the state level, if you can hand the ball
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  Speaker 3: off to us.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess if there's any sort of well, it
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  Speaker 1: didn't work, but there might be a bright light behind
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  Speaker 1: all this. Democrats will actually be on record as wanting
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  Speaker 1: non citizens to be able to vote in federal elections,
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  Speaker 1: That is what would come of a vote within like that.
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  Speaker 1: If if Jim Jordan advances it, you're going to get
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  Speaker 1: them on record.
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  Speaker 3: Well, And I think, you know, for we the people,
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  Speaker 3: you know, looking at November and the fact that we
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  Speaker 3: have to win, folks, We must win this November because
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  Speaker 3: everything Donald Trump has done will be completely destroyed if
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  Speaker 3: we lose the House or the Senate. And so how
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  Speaker 3: do we get people out to vote? How do we
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  Speaker 3: get people excited when Trump isn't really on the ballot himself,
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  Speaker 3: even though he will be the Democrats will claim he's
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  Speaker 3: on the ballot. So this is the thing I'm most
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  Speaker 3: concerned with is voter turnout and our people seeing the
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  Speaker 3: bigger picture of we've got to hold the line and
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  Speaker 3: give Trump his full term to implement these reforms. And
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  Speaker 3: this is a good example of a reform we could
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  Speaker 3: get done before Trump's done in office.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would motivate voters to get to
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  Speaker 1: the polls. Tom, I have to agree with you on that,
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  Speaker 1: And I obviously don't understand anyone's reluctance to get out
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  Speaker 1: and vote anyway, But that's been a puzzling for me
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  Speaker 1: for years and years and years. Like the peace of God,
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  Speaker 1: it passes. Ryan Thomas is understanding Thomas, I was asking
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  Speaker 1: we the people convention beyond do we need to pester someone?
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  Speaker 1: Is this moving forward here? I mean, who should we
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  Speaker 1: get in touch with and how do we act on
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  Speaker 1: this to light a fire under the right people.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, you know I would it's not time
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  Speaker 3: to act yet, and I'll come on and we'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about how to do that when we're ready to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone needs to focus on the Senators and the Save Act.
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  Speaker 3: They just have to. Now President Trump is you know,
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  Speaker 3: drawing a line in the sands, saying, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to sign anything unless the Save Act has passed.
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  Speaker 3: He's saying he wants him to stay over Easter. He's
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  Speaker 3: head they for dinner. You said, you claim that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad to see President Trump playing this hard because
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  Speaker 3: it really is the difference.
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  Speaker 2: Why are they fighting so hard?
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  Speaker 3: Because Brian, they know they're done if we can stop
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  Speaker 3: illegal to Roy, I mean, I love what came back, Jefferies.
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  Speaker 2: Our number one thing is no ice.
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  Speaker 3: Ages at the pulling locations. Boy, if that isn't a
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  Speaker 3: dead giveaway to.
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  Speaker 2: The fact you're gonna have a lot of illegals voting.
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  Speaker 2: What is? What is? It is?
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  Speaker 3: We've got to win this fight, and I'm glad President
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  Speaker 3: Trump is disengaged. I don't think we can win it though.
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  Speaker 3: In the Senate, I think reconciliation is going to be.
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  Speaker 2: The way they're gonna do this. I do you agree
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna take the funding for the military,
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  Speaker 3: the Save Act and DHS funding and wrap it into
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  Speaker 3: you know, a reconciliation bill.
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  Speaker 2: That's at least what I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Hearing, and that's what I've read a lot about as well.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, you know that, you get the funny point
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  Speaker 1: about the ICE agents being at the polling places. You
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  Speaker 1: don't need a judicial warrant. You're not kicking anybody's personal
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  Speaker 1: front door. That Fourth Amendment doesn't necessarily apply because you're
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  Speaker 1: out in public and there you are, and if you're
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  Speaker 1: subject to a detention order, they'd be in a position
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  Speaker 1: to pick you up.
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  Speaker 2: What a concept. Boy. We wouldn't want we wouldn't want
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  Speaker 2: that to happen, right right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm no illegals voting, Brian, trust me, there's no illegals voting.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I know, and that concern is kind of comical,
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  Speaker 1: given like, well, you're not gonna get picked up if
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  Speaker 1: you're not subject to an illegal immigration detention order. So
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  Speaker 1: if you are, then NYU there at the polling place anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Tom's Awastowski We the People Convention dot Org. Good heaving
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  Speaker 1: you on. Tom. We'll be looking forward to more information
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  Speaker 1: about this this American's this, I'm sorry, United States Citizens
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  Speaker 1: vote amendment. Whenever he gets more info about action plans,
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  Speaker 1: please come back in the morning show. We'll definitely talk
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 3: Glad to do it. Have a great weekend, enjoy the
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  Speaker 3: start of baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Yay, amen, brother, We certainly will do that. Take care
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  Speaker 1: of Tom seven to twenty right now, fifty five