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Top 16 Wide Receiver Prospects in the NFL Draft - Cleveland Browns Podcast for 2/9/26 · The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast

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  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Dog's Podcast with your hosts, Lake Renaker, Justin Charles, and Josh All.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Although it was kind of a snooze fest there for a while.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What a defensive effort from both teams, especially that first half, first three and a half quarters.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of three announced in that game and I'm not going to go too deep here into Super Bowl reactions or reviews or anything like that because tomorrow night, we're going to be doing YouTube live, knee Blake and Justin and we're really going to get into the Super
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  [SPEAKER_00]: more extended thoughts and analysis on the game and all that kind of stuff and then we've got a bunch of voicemails to play from you guys tomorrow night too So tune into that probably going to be eight o'clock PM Eastern on YouTube.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's what I'm guessing, but it will be tomorrow night and today though What I want to do here on the show today?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: is go through mock drafts, mock draft databases, top 16 wide receivers on their board.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the top 100 wide receiver prospects who are inside the top 100.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, my brain's not even ready to roll yet.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So
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  [SPEAKER_00]: mock draft database top 100 wide receivers are 16 of them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go through them The breakdown of their stats their metrics and everything for PFF and all this kind of stuff not my ranking not my order or anything like that Not my favorite guys for the Browns.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll probably have some commentary along the way But just to give you guys an idea if you're not familiar with the names and the prospect so far through the process
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  [SPEAKER_00]: here they are coming up on today's show and then at the end of the show I do have some messages from the website to read.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: everybody's favorite the return of vinty that's right the villain is back given me a whole lot of crap and well you guys know I'm just going to give it right back so there we go that will be after the wider receiver discussion which is coming up here but make sure you guys go to join the dogs dot com if you want to become part of the dog pack community get in there sync up with private discord hang out with all the die hard browns fans 24 seven conversations going on in there and right now obviously
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  [SPEAKER_00]: discussing the Super Bowl stuff from last night.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: front it was it was insane so we'll talk about that here at the end of the show but that's join the dogs dot com one to support the show into to jump in and get in on that conversation alright let's do this let's talk about wider severs I've been promising you guys this for a while and just haven't had time to put it together yet with the head coaching search for a little behind the schedule on what we would normally be doing this time of year
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So another quick preview for things to come.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're looking forward to what's on the docket for the show.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Talking wider severs, I'll have a show where I talk about offensive linemen.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about defensive players.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Just kind of overall lump them in together.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: May we'll do like defensive line and then you know linebackers in second area as well.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and then free agents.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's coming up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's like in a month.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think a month from today is when legal tampering.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Window opens.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So free agency is not far away.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I've got some episodes planned where I will go through free agent spots of need for the brown.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Some guys that I think could be ideal targets based on their fit for the team and their projected market value.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That kind of stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Soon, but today, back to the topic, wide receiver.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, again, this is all per mock draft database.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to follow along or you want to kind of keep tabs on how these guys are moving up and down the draft board projected overall, this draft season, it's mock draft database.com.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Their number one projected wide receiver,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and he is projected right now at pick six in the NFL draft, which coincidentally is the Browns.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Pick, it is Carnell Tate, the wide receiver out of Ohio State, six foot, three, 195 pounds.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now I do have ages for some of these guys.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Some guys, I don't have the ages for yet, just...
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: This time of year, you just don't always get the age for these players, but Cardinal tape is right at that age for a wide receiver that you like to see, especially if you're hoping he develops into that wide receiver one alpha type guy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's 21 years old.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, in 2025, 66 targets, 51 receptions, 875 yards, and 9 touchdowns he averaged 17.2 yards a catch.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He ran 10.1% of his routes out of the slot, 88.9 out wide.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is a primarily outside X receiver type of guy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He is not going to run a lot of his stuff out of the slot.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He dominates on the boundary.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He had 231 yac yards that was good for 4.5 yac per reception now here.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get to this category right now and then I will explain it and then we'll do these numbers for all these guys.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yars per route run.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I've talked about this on previous shows.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to talk about it again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yars per route run is a stat that's it doesn't have an easy explanation but overall it
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good evaluator of how productive a wide receiver or a tight end running back wherever a pass catcher is when they're on the field of documents.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, how many yards targets this player is earning per the routes they are running?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you have a obviously a higher yards per route run, means you are earning more targets, making more plays,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: in the opportunities that you are given to run routes on the field.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So numbers, that's really what's important here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So what I look for when I'm looking at yards per route run, especially if I'm thinking about taking a receiver high in the draft, for a second round, I want them to have 2.5.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: 2.5 yards per route run is a very good number.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now if it's like 2.4 to 2.5,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine too.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to take all of these other metrics into account along with the Arch para route run, but when the Arch para route run takes you off of my board completely is when you are under two.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're not over 2.0 yards para route run, I can't draft you.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just won't do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It does not succeed in the NFL.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you can't have over 2 in college, you're not going to be good in the NFL.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: 2.0 to like 2.25 is okay, but still that's like danger zone.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're close to being off my board.
• 7:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, like that 2.25 to 2.4 is where it starts to get a little bit more than that yellowish area where it's like, okay, let me look at all your other metrics.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: 2.4 to 2.5, you're looking good, anything over 2.5.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You are definitely on my board and somebody I'm looking at.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cardinal Tate.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: wasn't just over 2.5, he was at 3.02 over 3 yards per route run, so a very good wide receiver per that metric, so that's important to me.
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing I really like to look at is A-DOT.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: How far down the field are you being targeted on average?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the further down the field, your A-DOT, and you have the high yards per route run, and the good solid production profile to go with it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Major making plays down the field means you're getting open and your quarterback is targeting you down the field.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There is a guy on this list that's got a very low A dot.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to see, yeah, yeah, it's very low.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to him here in a few.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's one of those.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're only getting targeted around the line of scrimmage, I do have concerns about that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: 14.6 yards down the field for Carnell Tape.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Great number right there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is my favorite number.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: More than yards per route run for Carnell Tape specifically, but it's the drops.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Zero, zero drops for Cardinal Tate that is awesome to see.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He is the only wide receiver on this top 16 list who didn't have a drop this year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The next thing, this is why, and, and here's some commentary on this.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cardinal Tate is my number one rot-wide receiver on the board for the Browns.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: If he's there at six, I know we're going to talk about line men later on in the show.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Cardinal Tate at six, if he's there, take him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You just freaking take him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Contested catches.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Look at these numbers.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He was, he had 14 contested throw opportunities.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He caught 12 of them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: 12 out of 14, that's good for an 85.7% contested catch rate.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's enormous.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This dude is just, he's just so good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you look, these deeper mentioned now, the production profile wasn't enormous.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have like this 1200 yard 15 touchdown season or anything like that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But he was playing on an offense with Jeremiah Smith with other receivers, with good tight ends, with running backs.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They spread the ball around a lot.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he missed what was it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Three games or something with uh, I forgot what the
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  [SPEAKER_00]: beginning.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But he missed some time and all that kind of stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But these deeper metrics show just how effective he is when he is out there playing for you guys.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the one stat that's a little bit lower.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's tied for the lowest on this list.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's Miss Tackles forced and he had six just six Miss Tackles forced.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So basically he's going to get down the field.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to make the catch.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's probably not going to make anybody miss after the catch.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, part of that, too, is that he's getting a lot of those contested catch throws, which means he's coming.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going up for the catch, coming down with the ball at the same time as a defender.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, there's really not an opportunity to force a miss tackle.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Two gain yards after the catch in those situations.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's also part of the story here for Cardinal tape.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And his quarterback rating when targeted, one 51.8.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That is the highest.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at the numbers here, that's the highest by a pretty large margin on this list of top 16 receivers in the 2026 NFL draft class.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, Cardinal Tate spent a little bit more time on him number one because he is my top choice for the Browns if he is available at six, we have to take him.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not budging on that, we have to take Cardinal Tate and number three because I wanted to explain what some of these stat categories were.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And these next, these next names are going to go a little quicker.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So moving on here, number two, on mock draft databases list, projected to go number nine.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So Cardinal Tate and this guy right here are both projected.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The only two receivers projected to go top 10.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is McIleman out of USC, 511, 195.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's also 21 years old.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, McIleman had 108 targets, 79 receptions, 1,156 yards.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and 11 touchdowns good for 14.6 yards per catch and he was the bullet in a cough winner.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This year in college football named the best wide receiver in the nation.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of the
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: narrative around McIleman is he's a slot only player so I wanted to look at these numbers and break it down.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now his slot percentage he ran 70.6% of his routes out of the slot.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that means he ran 27.928% of his slot or his routes were out wide.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he does go out wide.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He is not strictly a slot receiver as you will see by the splits for some of these guys are strictly
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  [SPEAKER_00]: One or the other, Carl Naltate, 89% of his routes were out wide.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is a primarily dominant outside receiver now.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: McCuy Lemon, obviously with 70% in the slot, that is his primary spot.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: But not strictly, he can go outside and make plays out there as well.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on here, so his yards after catch, five hundred and two.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good for six point four yards after catch per reception.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: McCy Lemon is a yards after catch monster.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what he does very well.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: His yards per route run.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now listen this, I told you guys how much I love Carnell Tate being over three at three point zero two.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: McCy Lemon is at three point one three.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's tied for the highest on this list of top 16 receivers.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: yards per route run 3.13, great number.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A dot little bit lower than Cardinal T. But still for a slot only guy, 10.4 is as a dot.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty good.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's still a great number.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Coupled it with the yards after catch and as yards per route run, McCye Lemon is a monster.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's only two drops on the year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A 2.5% drop rate contested catches.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Also very good at this.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just like Cardinal Tate, he had 15 opportunities came down with 10 of them.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was good for 66.7%.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the number that I, I talk about Carter, um, McIleman, his yard after catchability.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: What he can do as soon as you get the bonus hands, that's where he specializes and this number proves that.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Miss Tackles forced.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I told you, Cardinal Tade only had six, McIleman.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Twenty, one, there was only one player on this list with more Miss Tackles forced.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then, McIleman, and we'll get to him in a bit, but twenty one, Miss Tackles forced from McIleman.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he had a one hundred and thirty quarter back rating.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: when he was targeted.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Number three on the list, this will be he's projected as the 13th pick in the draft.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is Jordan Tyson.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you see we're out of Arizona State 6200 pounds also 21 years old in 2025.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jordan Tyson had 97 targets, 61 receptions, 711 yards, eight touchdowns.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Good for 11.7 yards per catch.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: He ran 25% of his routes out of the slot, 75, 74.7%, the 75% out wide, so he is a versatile, a scheme versatile, a line-and-and-verse little type of wide receiver movement.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Inside, move him, outside he's going to make plays.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's probably the most dynamic.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: wide receiver in this draft but mock draft database has him ranked third on their projections and he is also third on my personal rankings as well again I'm not diving deep into my personal rankings but the top three here are my top three as well so sticking here with Jordan Tyson yards after catch a little bit lower 263 he had a 4.3 yards after catch per reception so
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: lower than Carnal Tate.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I know I just said he's probably the most dynamic or safer, but he's not doing a whole lot after the catch as you will see with some of these guys, but I lemon at 6.4, some of these guys have a higher yards after catch per reception, and that's good to see.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, here, yards per route run.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: This one worked things good, low hairy.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jordan Tyson 2.37.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I said that 2.4 to 2.5 ranges were I'm like, okay, I'm good with that.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anything over 2.5, I'm great with, obviously if you're over 3, I'm thrilled.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: He falls just short of that 2.4 to 2.5 range.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is between that 2.25 and 2.4, 2.37 yards per route run, Jordan Tyson, a little bit concerning at that number.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: His A dot is 11.7, which isn't bad, but obviously for a guy that you want to see you get down to feel a little more, not as high as you'd like it to be.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: This stat here is a great one drop, one drop all season, just a 1.6 drop percentage.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: contested catches.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's the worst of the top three guys.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's the worst.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had 16 opportunities.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Only came down with seven, 43.8.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was watching some film on him.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And some of these are just their their passes that you you need your widers.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: He for one to make.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And some of these receivers on this list are guys that if you put it within their body frame anywhere they can get to that ball they come down with that that is kind of their calling card it is not Jordan Tyson's calling card miss tackles forced again only at six like just like Carl Tate so a low miss tackles forced.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: and a 100 and 8.2 quarterback rating when targeted, easily the lowest, easily the lowest of the big three wide receiver.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So again, Jordan Tyson, I'm not saying he's a bad wide receiver and I'll do more episodes talking more extensively about him.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll dive into the injury history and all that kind of stuff too, which is a concern, but just based on these metrics alone, I've got him ranked at three, they've got him ranked at three, and that's not even considering the injury concerns.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: When you factor that stuff into the profile as well, I believe number three is a good spot for him.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's my tough.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's definitely not my top receiver and he's not over my Kylaman.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would take both of those guys before I take Jordan Tyson and again, dropping the comments as we go along guys, let me know what you think is I'm going through this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So now we get into number four on the list.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the 23rd projected draft pick per mock draft database.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's Denzel Boston out of Washington.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: A guy I'm rising on quickly here.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: 64 209, 22 years old.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had 95 targets 62 receptions, 881 yards.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: 11 touchdowns good for 14.2 yards per catch.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: he had a 17.6% out of the slot and then he ran 81.3% out wide.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So while Denzel Boston profiles as a
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: a primarily an outside boundary x, y receiver.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can come inside.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can play the big slot rule, which I think is really key for what he could be to an NFL offense at the next level.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yards after catch.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: 35 good for 4.9 yards after catch per reception.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hit a 2.44 yards per route run.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: He does fall within that 2.4 to 2.5 range that I'm okay with that I let you know that I'm fine.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're in that range, especially if your other metrics are good, which is R. His are really good.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had a 14.4 A dot.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Only two drops on the season.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: A 3.1% drop rate.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: contested catches this dude.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just like Carnell take, get me getting down the field, throw it up.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's coming down 13 opportunities came down with 10 of them.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: 76.9% contested catch rate.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Seven missed tackles for.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So again, he's very similar to the way Carnell take plays of the game.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: up and down with the ball and probably not doing a ton after the catch because he's not you're not getting him the ball quickly in space.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's more those downfield developing plays 116.2 quarterback rating win targeted.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number five on mock draft databases list is the 28th overall projected picks.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So these top five guys that I'm listing here.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the last one of the group are the five
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: at the, you know, this is the aggregate of all industry mock drafts that are being done that have been done, the current projections.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: These top five receivers are the five guys projected currently to go in the first round.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is the final first round project of why receiver it is.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: KC concept C on out of Texas, A&M, 511, 190, 21 years old.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had 101 targets
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: 61 receptions, 919 yards, 9 touchdowns.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good for 15.1 yards per catch.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: He ran 34.4% of his routes out of the slot, 65.3 out wide.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he is also a scheme versatile, a line and versatile type of wide receiver.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: 440 yards after the catch, good for 7.2 yards after the catch per reception.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the, what is it?
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: The.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: tied for the second highest on this entire list.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So KC Concepción is a guy get him the ball, get him in space, and he's going to make things happen after the catch.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: 2.46 yards per route run, so he falls in that good to go range 12.3 a dot.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the issue with KC Concepción.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: in a category that as Brown's fans, we should be nauseated listening to and it's drops.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Seven drops on the season, a 10.3% drop rate that is the highest drop rate on this list of top 16 wide receivers.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Contested catches, he's pretty good at this two 15 opportunities came down with 10 for 66.7%.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: 14 miss tackles for so he is doing similar things to what you see McCy Lemondoo 11 or 111.8 quarterback rating win targeted.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right now we move into the second round projected wider severs and the first one of those is the number six guy on this list projected to go pick 41 and it's Zach a riot branch out of Georgia.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: 510, 180, Zachariah branch had 93 targets, 81 receptions, 811 yards and 6 touchdowns good for 10 yards per catch.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He ran 79.2% of his routes out of the slot, 19% out wide, 634 yards after the catch this dude was a yards after catch, savant.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: So what he does.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: and you'll see a number here in a minute that I don't like.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But 7.8 yards after catch per reception, that is, let's see the second highest on this list.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's great in space, get him the ball, let him manufacture some yardage and make some plays afterward.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Get a 2.57 yards per route run, 2.57.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's over that 2.5 threshold where I'm like, you are just on the board.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you've got that yards per route run number, he's got a 12 point, oh no, I'm sorry.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I read the wrong line.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I read the wrong line.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the number that concerns me, and this is why now of a sudden, everything else I talked about, I'm like, hmm, his A dot was 3.6.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: 3.6 the next lowest on this list is 7.7.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So 3.6 means he's not getting targeted down the field.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: What?
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, ever.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's all line of scrimmage stuff and he's manufacturing all the work after that concerns me.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because you're very limited at the NFL level if that's all you're going to do.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: If that's all you can do, it's hard to rely on you to be in every down type of player to be a wire receiver is going to make much of an impact on a consistent basis for your team.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see his profile being something I'm excited if the Browns would draft this kid.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would not.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think that'd be a smart idea.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: But just two drops, just a 2.4% drop rate.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Contested catches, he only had eight opportunities again, this isn't his stick.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't go down the field.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to be throwing the ball up to him.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of situations, only eight.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's the only wide receiver on this list to be in single digits, came down with 50 of them for a 62.5% rate.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: 20 missed tackles for, to get McCuy lemon so far as the leader on this list at 21 so far.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You get him the ball, get him in space, he gets sweeps, bubble screens, all those kind of things, but he's not a downfield receiver in any way shape of form, which is what I am concerned about when it comes to Zachariah branch.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he had a 124.5 quarterback rating when targeted.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So sticking here in the second round.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number seven, wide receiver on this list, projected to go 47th overall is Chris Bell, the wide receiver out of Louisville, six, two, two, 20.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a big body just rocked up type of receiver that people are going to fall in love with and eat.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to test at the combine or anything like that to really improve his stock or to blow people socks off because he had the knee injury late in the season.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see what that does to his draft stock.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in 2025, Chris Bell 106 or targets, 106 targets.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, 72 receptions, 917 yards, six touchdowns good for 12.7 yards per catch.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: 14.7% of his rouse route of the slot 85.3 out wide.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had 372 yards after the catch, good for 5.2 yards after catch per reception.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Chris Bell had a 2.55 yards per route run, good there.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: 9.48, a little bit lower than you'd like to see, but still not terrible.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Three drops, 4% drop rate, contested catches he was 12 of 24 for 50% and he missed or he forced 9 missed tackles for 109.7 quarterback rating when he was targeted.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we are still in the second round.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe these next five guys.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, these next five guys are second round projections right now and then we've got four projected in the third to round up the list.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the next guy, the third one here projected in the second round.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: at Pick 53 is Elijah Sarat.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: The, uh, why does he route Indiana one of them?
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: There were two studs out of Indiana.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the first one, six foot two, two, 13, 22 years old.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Elijah Sarat, 87 targets, 64 receptions, 824 yards and 15 touchdowns.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that led the entire nation and touchdowns this year, but it definitely leads this entire list of wider severs for the draft.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: in touchdowns.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So 15 touchdowns.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good for 12.9 yards per catch.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Elijah Sirrat 13.7% of his routes out of the slot 86.3 out wide.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So again, another guy who can come inside and play a bigger slot roll if he needs to.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: primarily an outside guy with the versatility to come in at times, but we'll leave it there.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: 306 yards after catch 4.8 yards after catch per reception.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a low number.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the lowest one I've hit so far.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Second lowest, Carnotate was the lowest on the arductor catch for reception.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yards per route run 2.39, so Elijah Sarat just comes below that 2.4 to 2.5 thresholds.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's two guys so far that we've got in that yellowish range where I'm like, I mean I can get on board with it as long as your other stuff is good and now it's Elijah Sarat and Jordan Tyson that are in that range.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: A dot for Elijah Sarat 9.6, he had three drops on the year for 4.5% drop rate.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now this is interesting to me because you look at a guy like Elijah Sarat, you watch him in the playoff, call it football playoff, national championship, all that stuff.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was a beast at contested catches, right?
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought so.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now I didn't watch every Indiana game, obviously.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: This guy led this entire list in contested catch opportunities with 30.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he only came down with 12 of them for a 40% contested catch rate.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's like a lot lower than a guy like Denzel Boston at 76.9 or a car notated at 85.7 who that is their thing.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: They are contested catch specialists.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this bigger body outside receiver Elijah Serrat.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just assumed he was going
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: 60, 70 or you know, percent are higher, contested catch, but he's only at 40.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's a little concerning to me as well.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just nine missed tackles forced and at 132.9 quarterback rating, win targeted.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on here to pick, I'm sorry, two number nine on this list projected right after his teammate Elijah Serrat, this guy Omar Cooper Jr. out of Indiana projected to go at 54.
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Six feet, 204 pounds, also 22 years old.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Omar Cooper Jr. had 91 targets 69 receptions, 937 yards.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: 13 touchdowns.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he and his teammate combined for 28 touchdowns this year.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's insane insane.
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good for 13.6 yards per catch.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Mark Cooper Jr. 83.3% of his routes route out of the slot 15.7 out.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why?
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he is the exact inverse of his teammate Elijah Serrat.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's why they were a great compliment to one another.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: They pretty much had complete opposite route percentage numbers here.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Omar Cooper Jr. primarily the slot guy, while Elijah Serrat manning the outside.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But back to Cooper, he had 494 yards after the catch.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good for 7.2 yards per catch.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: yards after catch per reception, one of the higher numbers on this list.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now unlike his teammate, Omar Cooper Jr. had a 2.55 yards per route run, the great number, love to see it.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: He also only had three drops of 4.2% drop rate.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: contested catches.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was actually better than his teammate Elijah Serrat.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was not expecting that.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was seven of 14 for 50%.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So still not like great.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not his calling card.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's kind of going through the numbers.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did not anticipate he would have a higher contested catch rate.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then Elijah Sarat, but he does.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: The number that makes me want Omar Cooper Jr.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So give you the commentary on this.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Omar Cooper Jr. 100% on my board, for the Browns, first of all, the 2.55 yards were out around great.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Only three drops, great.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yards after catch at 494 or 7.2 average on Yards after catch, awesome.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Love to see it, and it's because of this number right here.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: 27 missed tackles forced highest on this entire list.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: of top 16 wide receivers, 27 missed tackles for us.
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: This guy's a monster and a 143.2 quarterback rating when targeted is the second highest on this entire list behind Carnell Taste 151.8.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Omar Cooper Jr. here in the second round projected right now in that 50, he's at 54.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the 50's at low 50's range.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: would be a great target for the Cleveland Browns.
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Whether they want to take them at 39, that's where we're picking in the second round.
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or if they want to move back a couple spots and pick up some draft capital or move up from 70, where they pick next after that, to get a guy like Omar Cooper Jr.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would be thrilled to have him in Cleveland next year.
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• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this group of guys right here, Elijah Sarat of 53, Omar Cooper of 54, and this guy at 56, Chris Brazil, Brasal, I'm sorry, Chris Brasal, the second out of Tennessee, the biggest wide receiver on this list, six foot, five, two hundred pounds, Chris Brasal had 86 targets, 61 receptions for 1,000 and six yards.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's one of only three receivers on this list to go over 1,000 yards this year in college football.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nine touchdowns good for a 16.5 average yards per catch that's the third highest on this list.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now Chris Brazzle, let me scroll over here on my sheet.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is where you say he is a one, one alignment guy.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: 94.3% of his routes were out wide leaving just 5.7% out of the slots.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he was pretty much exclusively strictly held to being an outside wide receiver, which at a 6500 or what else he undo.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is perfect spot for a guy like that.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: 244 yards after the catch for 4.0 yards after catch per reception.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is that the lowest on this list?
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that is the lowest yards after catch per reception on this entire list.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yet a 2.57 yards per route run, so that's good a 15.78 dot, that's the highest on, oh, second highest on this list, and just two drops.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: With a 3.2% drop rate, he only caught seven out of his 17 contested catch opportunities for 41.2%, which again, you want to see a guy who's 6,500 pretty much relegated exclusively to the outside spot who's going to be running deep.
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a 15.78 dot.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: You want to see a higher contested catch rate than 41.2.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Eight missed tackles for us at 135.1 quarterback rating when targeted.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number 11 on this list.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Projected to go pick 57 right after Chris Brasal is Jeremy Bernard out of Alabama, six foot one, two hundred and four pounds.
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy Bernard had 102 targets, 64 recessions for 862 yards, seven touchdowns good for 13.5 yards per catch.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy Bernard, 34.5% of his route out of the slot, 62.2 out wide.
• 35:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's more of that scheme versatile guy too, can kind of play both inside and outside at 394 yards after the catch, a 6.2 yards after the catch per reception.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: The number,
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: and I already talked about it.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy Bernard is completely off my board.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: 1.7 yards per route run.
• 35:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: See you later, Jeremy Bernard.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't draft you.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're out.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: You had a 10.7 A dot and just one drop on the season, 1.5% drop rate.
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Only caught five out of 14 contested catch opportunities for a 35.7 rate.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that is also the lowest.
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, that's the lowest on this list.
• 36:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did four 17 mess tackles, which is a pretty decently high number here, and had 112.5 quarterback rating when targeted.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know if Jeremy Bernard is really going to work in the NFL, where he's currently projected to go as a second round pick, not worth it to me.
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you could get a guy like Jeremy Bernard and like the fourth round,
• 36:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: or the fifth round, okay, worth a flyer there, not here, definitely not here.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number 12 on this list, projected to go pick 59 is a guy I do like, is Malachi Fields.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Out of Notre Dame did an episode with Barry Schuck on Senior Bowl Reisers last week, Malachi Fields was one of the two receivers,
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: that Barry shock highlighted and actually both of those receivers are on this top 16 list.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the first one here, Malachi feels six foot four, two hundred and twenty two pounds, big receiver.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Had 62 targets, just 36 receptions for six hundred and thirty yards and five touchdowns in 2025, but that was good for 17.5 yards per catch, which is the highest on this list.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just 9.7% of his routes out of the slot leaving 88.7% out wide that is where he dominates and where he primarily plays.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just 192 yards after the catch, good for 5.3 yards per catch, yards after catch per reception.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty low and he had a 2.2 yards per route runs, so that's even under the 2.25 to 2.4.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: yellow window I talk about.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I do like Malachi field.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some of these numbers give me pause, especially if he's going to be going middle of the second round here.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: 16.48.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just one drop on the season 2.7% drop rate.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, a guy that I would like to see have a higher contested catch rate.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He came down with 11 out of 23 passes and contested catch situations for a 47.8% rate.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So under 50 as well, kind of like Serrat and Brasal and these other guys who you would expect to have higher rates than that just six missed tackles forced good for a 13 quarterback rating win target.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so why I said, you know, I do like Malachi fields as a player.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some of these numbers do give me pause and I'm going to need to see combine stuff and probably go do a little bit more tape dive on Malachi fields just to get a better assessment of what we're seeing here with these numbers.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: 13.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: A guy that I really haven't looked too much into, honestly, because I'm not that interested in him.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he's projected to go 75.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So now we have entered the third round wider silver tier.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: These next, these last four names will be third round projected guys currently.
• 39:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's Antonio Williams, the wider silver out of Clemson, 511, 190.
• 39:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had 72 targets, 55 receptions for 600 and 11 yards
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Antonio Williams 93% of his routes out of the slot, 6.7 out wide, so he is primarily a slot only receiver, 320 yards after the catch 5.8 yards after catch per reception, just a 2.27 yards per route run.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: low a little bit concerning to me.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just a 7.7 A dot, not great.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just one drop, 1.8% drop rate, 6 out of 13 contested catches for a 46.2 rate and 8 missed tackles for a 1 19.6 quarterback rating win targeted.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number 14 on this list of guy.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of you out there like or interested in because I see your comments.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I see through his name around a lot doing mock drafts and things like that.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's projected to go number 78 in the draft.
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jacobie Lane out of USC Malachi or not Malachi.
• 40:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: McCuy lemons teammate this past season at USC.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jacobie Lane is six foot four, 200 pounds.
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So while McCuy lemon was that.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... five eleven one ninety five more of a slot intermediate area of the field guide you coping lane with your big body six four two hundred pound outside receiver guy seventy four targets forty nine receptions seven hundred fifty yards four touchdowns good for fifteen point three yards per catch he ran eighty one percent of his route out wide nineteen percent in the slot so not exclusively restricted to out wide
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: but primarily where he's going to run his routes at the NFL level 236 yards after the catch four point eight yards after the catch for reception.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So not doing a lot with the ball after he gets it.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: These big body outside receivers really don't.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's just kind of the way it goes.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he had a 2.42 yards for route runs.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's higher than the last three guys on this list.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: which is good to see at 12.5 a.d. he did have four drops for 7.5% drop rate.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of the higher drop rates on the list.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was the 30.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the third highest drop rate out of these top 16 guys contested catches.
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go to Kobe Lane once again.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not impressive whatsoever, just 10 contested catches out of 23 opportunities for a 43.5 contested catch rate.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You want to see that number just be higher for these guys.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: If that's the role they're going to play, I need you to come down with the ball more.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's concerning to me for Jacobi Lane, 11 missed tackles for a 106.3 quarterback rating when targeted.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, just two guys left to go through here and actually I really like these last two guys.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: They are third round picks.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We are talking about the Browns pick at what is at 70 and 107.
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: These guys would be right in between that range.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see the Browns.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see the Browns get one of these receivers.
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really would.
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just depending on how the draft goes and who they're getting before now, I think one of these two guys, if they stay in this range, could be very good value players for the Browns picking where they're at.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So number 15 on the list projected to go 93 is Skyler Bell, the wider receiver out of Yukon, six foot, 185, so he's not short, but he's slight, so he might need to bulk up just a little bit, but this guy.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I believe he's a fourth year starter, 23 years old, a little bit older of a player, but the production this season off the charts.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: 141 targets.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: easily the most on this list.
• 42:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: The next highest was 108.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: So no, I'm sorry, 125.
• 42:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, actually, yeah, these, these, these last two guys were the highest target earners among these draft eligible receivers.
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So 141 targets earned for Skylar Bellish year 102 receptions.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Easily, easily clears everybody on this list.
• 43:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: The next highest was 81.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: 81.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this guy had 21 more receptions than the next leader on this list.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So 101 receptions, 1000, 282 yards.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the most on this list.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And 13 touchdowns tied for the second most out of these receivers.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: 12.6 yards per catch.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Skyler Bell, 36.4% of his routes out of the slot, 61% out wide.
• 43:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's a more scheme versatile player as well.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: A number I love, man, 835 yards after the catch, 8.2 yards after the catch, per reception, highest on this list, get the ball on Skyler Bell's hands and he's making something happen with it.
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: 3.13A dot.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: draft him.
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: There are only three players on this list of draft eligible receivers who had over three yards per route run.
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was Cardinal, Tate, McCuy, Lemon, and Skyler Freaking Bell.
• 44:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Get me Skyler Bell.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like this kid a lot.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: 8.3 A dot.
• 44:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's lower than you'd like to see.
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: All these other numbers kind of factor into where that number sits for him.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Four drops a little bit higher than what you want to see at 3.8% drop rate.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So in all reality though, this is why I do drops and drop rate.
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Could you just say four drops?
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, that's tied for the second most on this list.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but he had 141 targets.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: The other guys had 70.
• 44:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he had like twice as many targets.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why his drop rate 3.8 is actually one of the lower ones on this list.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: and in contested catch situations, here we go.
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's only six feet tall, he's 185 pounds.
• 44:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude came down with 13 out of 20 contested catchers for 65% rate.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Get a higher contested catch rate than Elijah Serrat, Chris Brasal, Malachi Fields, ridiculous, ridiculous.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: 15 missed tackles forced for 128% quarterback rating, when targeted.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you guys can't tell, I like Skylar Bell.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and the last guy on this list, number 16, the other guy from the Senior Bowl that Barry shook, highlighted a guy that I really like and would love to see the Browns come away with, either Skylar Bell or
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: this guy here projected to go 94 overall.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ted Hurst, why does he ever out of Georgia State, six foot three, one hundred and ninety five pounds Ted Hurst had a hundred and twenty five targets.
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: 71 receptions, nine hundred and ninety nine yards, so just one yard chive a thousand, and come on.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Six touchdowns, 14.1 yards per catch.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He ran 16.3% of his routes out of the slot 83.7 out wide, so he's the inverse of the guy I just talked about.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, actually not really even, no, that's wrong.
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Scratchwood, I just said, he's not the direct inverse, but he is more of a primary outside receiver for a formation where Skylar Bell, I'm reading that wrong.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Skylar Bell really is a versatile type of player to go inside now.
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yards after catch, for Ted Hurst, 374, just 5.3 yards after catch per reception.
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: A 2.4 to yards per route run.
• 46:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's in that 2.425 range, so I'm okay with that.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not over the moon like I am with Skylar Bell at 3.13, but that's okay.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: A 12.6 A dot, he had seven drops for a 9% drop rate.
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the second highest on this list that is concerning to me, especially again.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: As a Cleveland Brownspan, the thing we don't want to hear about with our wider severs,
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: is drops.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to hear about a drop issue at all.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Tedhurst did have a case of the drops he's here in 2025 in contested catch situation.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had the second highest opportunities on this list of 27 came down with 16 of them for 59.3%.
• 47:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: 18 missed tackles forced and 75.4 quarterback rating when targeted.
• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the lowest on this list.
• 47:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's the only guy who's under 100.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: in that category, and he's a 75.4 so that kind of gives you guys an idea of the top 16 wide receivers per mock draft database, and where they're currently projected to go in the NFL draft, just to give you guys the run down real fast.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number one, projected go six overall car and LTT out of Ohio State.
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number two, projected to go number nine overall, McKay Lemon out of USC number three, projected that pick 13 is Jordan Tyson out of Arizona State.
• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number four, projected to go 23 is Denzel Boston out of Washington.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number five, projected to go 28 is Casey, Concepcion out of Texas A&M.
• 47:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those five.
• 47:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: are your currently projected first round wider severs moving into the second round projections you had at number six projected go 41 is Zachariah branch out of Georgia.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number seven projected to go 47 is Chris Bell out of Louisville.
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number eight, projected to go 53 is Elijah Serrat out of Indiana.
• 48:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: His teammate, number nine, projected to go 54 is Omar Cooper, Jr., and then number 10 projected to go 57 is Chris Brazzle, the second out of Tennessee, number 11 projected to go 57 is Jeremy Bernard out of Alabama and rounding out the second round projections is number 12, projected to go 59 Malachi fields out of Notre Dame.
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: and then moving into third round projections.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number 13, projected to go 75 Antonio Williams out of Clemson.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number 14, projected to go 78, Jacobi Lane out of USC.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: 15 projected to go 93 a Skyler Bell for the star by his name out of Yukon.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And number 16, projected to go 94 as Ted Hurst.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: out of Georgia State.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So there you go, guys.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know what you think about these top 16 project of wider severs.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who do you like for the Browns?
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who do you not like for the Browns?
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: What stats numbers information did I provide here on this segment?
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you find encouraging?
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you not really care about?
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think I care more than I should?
• 49:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really love to hear what you guys think.
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: My evaluation is not the end all be.
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I am not a
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do play a lot of fantasy football, so I consume a ton of fantasy football information.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So on the offensive side of the ball, especially with wider severs, I know what stats the fantasy analyst.
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: highlight and what they really look at to project future success in the NFL and I know which stats lead to future success in the NFL, like you're just per route run is a primary example of that.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let me know what you guys think and who on this list do you want the Browns to take and who do you want them to stay away from?
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• 51:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, and around out the show, we got some messages from the website.
• 51:46
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• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So go to the dogspockass.com if you want to send in a voicemail or if you just want to type up a message and send it in, I can read on the show just like I'm doing here for Andrew.
• 51:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says, Hey, guys, Andrew from Newcastle, England, I've sent in a couple of voicemails and messages, but I just wanted to say that I absolutely love the show.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Being a Browns fan from England can be tough as there's not many of us, so I'm glad I found this community.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're glad you have two, Andrew.
• 52:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: We love having you here.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says, I'd just like to talk again about the Browns draft plans, particularly with our early picks.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people are desperately wanting us to draft wider severs with our early picks.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: However, the Patriots and the Chiefs in 2025 have shown in the Super Bowl that it doesn't matter who you have at quarterback and
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Seahawks completely shut down the Patriots while only rushing for pretty much the entire game.
• 52:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says, in my opinion, our best draft strategy is to take either Fano or Maui Noah if they're available at six.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then take a wider seaver with the Jake's pick at 24.
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then honestly, I'd be happy with either O'Line or wider seaver in the second round.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Andrew, for the message here.
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, number one, that's Super Bowl the other night.
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about this tomorrow on the live show with Blake and Justin, but
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, that defense, the defense of front for the seahawks, just given the Patriots, O-Line Fits, and here's the thing that it kind of plays two and against your point here, Andrew.
• 53:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let me explain.
• 53:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about we need to take a tackle early.
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Fano or Maui know, and now remember, in this draft currently, there is not like a clear cut elite tier blue chip prospect at tackle.
• 53:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: At least not left tackle, and I think some people will consider Maui know to be a blue chip prospect, that kind of thing.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: But between him and Fano, those are your top two tackles in this draft.
• 53:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Neither one of them.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would say, neither one of them is a sure thing according to the experts in the analyst.
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have them rated highly, they have them with good projections into the NFL, but really not a sure thing.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, remember, who was the sure thing last year?
• 53:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who was the top ranked?
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is your top tack on the draft.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you got the opportunity to take him, you take him before all the other tackles.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was Will Campbell out of LSU.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the Patriots took him.
• 54:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was for Rip before the Browns pick.
• 54:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: They took Will Campbell.
• 54:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Left tackle.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He sucked.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you guys watched the Super Bowl,
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Will Campbell was highlighted on damn near every freaking play because he was getting blown up, rushed past destroyed, thrown back into Drake may he couldn't do anything and it wasn't just the Super Bowl if you watched the playoffs the whole way, Denver destroyed Will Campbell, Houston destroyed Will Campbell, he struggled, he struggled and I see a lot of people saying like,
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: There were questions in the draft process as to whether or not his body type, he's got the shorter arms, quickness, that kind of thing should he maybe be a guard at the NFL level and not a tackle.
• 54:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think this playoff stretch for the Patriots showed will Campbell probably needs to play guard.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: He probably should not be playing tackle, probably shouldn't be playing left tackle.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looked terrible.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just I use that as an example to say just because you allocate your early pick to the tackle position does not mean you're guaranteed to hit on that spot because you look at a team like the seahawks on the other side took gray zable toward the end of the first round.
• 55:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's been a very good offensive lineman for the Seattle seahawks so.
• 55:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: We really just need to evaluate the players and not worry so much about where they're projected to go in the draft.
• 55:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you look at a guy, oh, I'm trying to think of somebody off, top my head, for example, Caleb Lomu.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: For example, or the kid out of Georgia, Monroe Freeling, any of these guys that are projected go later in the first round, maybe early second round.
• 55:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you think that there's not much of a difference, or you think there's even a chance they're better, then the guy like Spencer Fano, and you would need to use a top six pick to get him, then just wait.
• 56:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't rush into that pick again.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still very much of Cardinal Tates there at six.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: You just take him, just take him.
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: and you just weren't about why to see for one for your team because you got it.
• 56:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how that ends up going for the Browns.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And again, we'll do more prospective evaluation as we go along to get a better feel for who we really like that offensive tackle position.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But thank you, Andrew for the message.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for your previous voice mouse, I really appreciate hearing from you.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: This next one, David from Baltimore says long time listener, first time writing in, love the pod and the takes was listening to the senior bull risers episodes and couldn't help pushing back against Barry's notion
• 56:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I hear the desire not to miss out on an excellent edge russia, et cetera, we're already wasting plenty of elite defensive talent, okay?
• 56:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're not wrong.
• 56:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Adding more to the pile won't help.
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: The single greatest thing the Browns can do to elevate the defense.
• 57:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: is to elevate the offense, get some blue chip offensive prospects and give the defense a chance to actually play from a lead every once in a while.
• 57:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do it consistently and miles will hit his 25 sat goal easily.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, go Browns, thank you David from Baltimore for the message.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you watch a show, you know, more we're all offence here, like quit mess around with the defense and you're buried.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just get us some freaking offensive players so we can just give me a product I can watch.
• 57:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And right now it's not watchable because there's nothing to watch on offense is pathetic.
• 57:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's terrible.
• 57:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we have one of the better defenses in the league and it doesn't matter.
• 57:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: We won five games.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Eight games in the last two years, who cares, right?
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this is probably just recently by us so please guys don't hold any of these statements against me all bring this up with Blake and Justin tomorrow night when we talk super ball on the show.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was watching the Super Bowl last night and it just I kept going back to Mike Miller's mock draft from last week where he had the Browns projected at six to take David Bailey the edge rusher out of Texas tech and I'm watching the C.I.
• 58:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: or C. Hawks defense destroy the Patriots up front and I'm like
• 58:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shit, I can kind of get on board with it, I think.
• 58:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel crazy and maybe as we get further removed from that game, I'll get back to my offense only mindset, but I was watching the game thinking, well, if Cardinal Tate goes 4 or 5, and we think the tackle prospects for the O-line prospects later in the first round are just as good as these guys up top, why rush the pick here at the top, and David Bagelys on the board,
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the Browns take him, I'm like, I could kind of support it, I know you guys are probably jaws hitting the floor here and me say that, but the best player available thing and the drafting for need is something we're going to have to debate.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're really not to discuss this in the next couple months because that's most likely the position the Browns are going to be in.
• 58:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: do you have Carnal T as a better overall player on your board than David Bagley or the top defensive guy.
• 59:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it is an interesting conversation.
• 59:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't hold me to it.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just I'm saying I'm I'm starting to
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's not such a crazy pack, but maybe it is.
• 59:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys let me know what you think.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got to get to this message from Vinti, okay?
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Vinti's back.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys love Vinti.
• 59:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Vinti's a lot of fun and hates me.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just Vinti does not like Josh.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says.
• 59:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: it sounded like you missed me correcting you so I'm happy to continue.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says of course you missed the most important statement in Munkins press conference.
• 59:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure I did venti.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: When he said when Munkins said that it doesn't matter if shorts comes back or not, we are not going to change the system.
• 59:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: We are built for this system.
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there is any question he can build an offensive staff and a successful offense.
• 59:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: me either venti.
• 59:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Showing he recognizes the defense has been structured for this system leads me to believe he knows what he is doing on the defense aside the ball as well.
• 1:00:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: If looking at the Brown's or I'm sorry, if looking at the Brown's defense and saying, yeah, it's a pretty good defense.
• 1:00:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: They do pretty good in that system means you're like a defensive guru, then I'm a defensive guru venti.
• 1:00:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anybody can see that.
• 1:00:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Come on, man.
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anybody can see that.
• 1:00:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He continues on, he says, Munkin' has already proven he can lead a young team by taking Southern Miss from a winless team to a 95 record in three years.
• 1:00:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's college football, Vinty.
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not like it was Georgia.
• 1:00:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: or Alabama or it was it wasn't Ole Miss it was Southern Miss dude Southern Miss and this is where I think Vinti's just he says I don't know anything or I don't bother to look things up.
• 1:00:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: How about you Vinti Todd Munkin 2013 went one and eleven at Southern Miss.
• 1:00:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: 2014.
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He went three and nine.
• 1:00:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So in his first two seasons, not like he turned the thing around.
• 1:01:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had four wins in two years.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then in 2015, yes, he went nine and five.
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they lost every single game they played against a bigger division one program.
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got the schedule pulled up here.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: They played Mississippi State to start things off that year.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: They lost.
• 1:01:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then they beat Austin P.A.
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Austin pay.
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know who that is.
• 1:01:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They beat Texas State.
• 1:01:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then they
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: But then they beat North Texas.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then they lost a Marshall.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then they beat UTSA.
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Woo!
• 1:01:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: They beat Charlotte.
• 1:01:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: They beat U-TEP.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: They beat Rice.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: They beat Old Dominion.
• 1:01:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they beat Louisiana Tech.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: But then they got their butts kicked.
• 1:01:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: by western Kentucky and Washington.
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So when you start using these arguments and I'm not trying to this is not an anti-todd monk in thing.
• 1:01:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's an anti-quit using this nine and five record of Southern Miss as a somehow a testament to how great of a head coach he is.
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: They okay.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they beat all the nobody's on their schedule.
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: They lost anybody worth noting.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So
• 1:02:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's the Todd Munkin at Southern Miss break down that I think a lot of people, Fenty, are missing, okay?
• 1:02:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was not this impressive turnaround that you pain it to be.
• 1:02:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Fenty's not done.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He continues to says, it sounds like you have dropped your unsupported and irrational delusion that Munkin was a terrible hire.
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Reminder Vinty, you said in your first original message after the hire that you didn't like the hire either.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just a reminder.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says now if you would only drop your delusion that the coaching search was a terrible process, not going to happen due to that process was stupid and it looks stupid, you ain't going to convince me otherwise.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says very basically went over the entire plan and process they used to come up with monk in.
• 1:02:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: They clearly stuck to that process the whole time.
• 1:02:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you will repeat your falsehood that the whole search was designed around keeping shorts.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: and or you will bring up the pointless timetable you impose on the search.
• 1:02:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: The goal the search was to evaluate a large diverse group of coaches and find the best one for the job, not the higher someone as quick as possible.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Vinti obviously is out there under the delusion and doing the whole gas lighting thing.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Brown's never intended or never said they would like to keep Jim Schwartz as defensive coordinator.
• 1:03:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then explain to me why every other report we saw heard red was about the Browns wanting to keep Jim Schwartz.
• 1:03:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm done.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm done partying on that Vinty.
• 1:03:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy your delusions, my friend.
• 1:03:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy it.
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: The process, the whole head coaching, the the search process with his terrible man, come on.
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got guys pulling out left and right,
• 1:03:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, whatever, I'm done arguing about it.
• 1:03:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got Munkin, I'm ready to roll with the monster, and let's just see how this goes.
• 1:03:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: But of course, then Minty has one last thing he's got Addy says, I'm confused and terrified that I actually agree with you that Tate Ord Lemon would be amazing picks at six.
• 1:04:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I've done wrong to actually agree with you on something.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It definitely makes me question my conclusion.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I guess you could have just accidentally backed your way into being correct for once.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: how many times I have just backed my way into anything.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've locked into this.
• 1:04:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have locked into that.
• 1:04:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have walked somehow backwards into a good decision here and there happens all the time.
• 1:04:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: My friend happens all the time, so thank you.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: for joining me on the journey.
• 1:04:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, everybody, I appreciate you tuning in.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stay high to Vinty out there.
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you know him, give him a hand shake, a slap on the back.
• 1:04:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's having a rough day somewhere because he's just never happy.
• 1:04:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, appreciate everybody writing in.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Love you guys, best audience in the world again.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know what you guys think about the wider sea of prospects.
• 1:04:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who do you want the Browns to draft?
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who do you want them to steer clear of?
• 1:04:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are you with Vinty?
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: That Tate or Lemon would be a good pick at six.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys think they should just avoid wider sea of them.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go online, no matter what.
• 1:04:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: am I crazy for thinking maybe David Bailey's not that crazy of a pick I don't know guys I can't believe I'm even saying it can't believe I'm even saying it but you guys you guys get me off the cuff so that's
• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:43
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• 1:05:44
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