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Speaker 1: I don't look like that anymore.
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Speaker 2: I hope you're not at that age yet. Chances are yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's coming sooner than later. I'll tell you that life
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Speaker 2: kind of catches up to you that way.
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Speaker 3: On the show today, we're going to dive into the
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Speaker 3: new bidders known bidders. Sportico first reporting that this morning
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Speaker 3: for the Seattle Seahawks, of course, on they are for sale.
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Speaker 3: The Super Bowl champions are for sale. We're going to
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Speaker 3: answer the question who is a deech in Mattal, who
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Speaker 3: is Wick Grossbeck Grosbec and what that might mean for
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Speaker 3: the operations of the Seahawks. There will be a change
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Speaker 3: I will talk about, especially for John Schneider the GM
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Speaker 3: the football operation side, if these potential bidders are operate
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Speaker 3: anyway like they did with the Celtics they sold. The
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Speaker 3: Celtics were sold last year for six billion dollars. We'll
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Speaker 3: talk about that too, but Wick Grossbeck, in particular in Boston,
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Speaker 3: that will be if he operates the same way in Seattle,
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Speaker 3: that would be a change for John Schneider in the
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Speaker 3: football operation side. We'll see and we'll.
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Speaker 1: Talk about that.
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Speaker 3: At ten forty five we'll go to the NBA and
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Speaker 3: Chris is going to lead a discussion about the interesting
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Speaker 3: dynamics at play. He's shaking his head already about Draymond Green,
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Speaker 3: who like a career averaged what eight point guy? He
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Speaker 3: makes more noise and points getting on Charles Barkley on
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Speaker 3: the air on inside the NBA and Barkley having a
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Speaker 3: retort for that. But basically it's steming from Barkley saying
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Speaker 3: the Warriors are done. Their reign is over, and it
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Speaker 3: happens to everybody because you get old and you don't
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Speaker 3: win all the time. And Draymond Green took exception to that.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that at ten forty five, eleven o'clock.
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Speaker 3: What thing is going to be interesting for you? Terrence Samuel,
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Speaker 3: he's the receiver's coach at the University of Kansas. He
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Speaker 3: was the college position coach for Seahawks six round pick
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Speaker 3: Emmanuel Henderson junior. He also coached Cody White, Seahawks wide receiver.
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Speaker 3: He also coached Ricky recruited to Michigan State. Ricky White
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Speaker 3: the third Seahawks wide receiver. That's three Seahawks right there
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Speaker 3: for one coach at one position.
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Speaker 1: Coach.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Terrence Samuel, I'm going to ask him. Okay,
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Speaker 3: we're all billing Emmanuel Henderson, the rookie six round pick,
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Speaker 3: as a new punt gunner and a special teams pick.
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Speaker 3: What is Emmanuel Henderson like as a receiver for NFL?
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Speaker 3: I mean people have pretty much overlooked that. At eleven o'clock,
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Speaker 3: we'll couch. We'll go to Lawrence, Kansas or wherever he
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Speaker 3: might be on a recruiting trip.
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Speaker 2: He in Texas, man out there in the sun, he's
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Speaker 2: in Dallas.
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Speaker 1: He gets back to us.
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Speaker 3: That's a notre dame of running backs coach in the
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Speaker 3: Kansas wide receiver coach, you don't mind talking to us
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Speaker 3: on a recruiting trip.
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Speaker 2: But as you can see, there's a lot of talent
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Speaker 2: out there in Texas. They're in the right place.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're not going to run out of players
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Speaker 3: going to recruit down there. At eleven thirty, we'll read
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Speaker 3: back your text at four nine four five one on
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Speaker 3: the Takomadadge text line, as we do every day this
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Speaker 3: time in our first question on the top of the show,
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Speaker 3: your reaction to the news of the first known potential
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Speaker 3: bidders on the Seahawks. There were some unconfirmed reports last
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Speaker 3: week that Mark Zuckerberg Facebook for me, Tim Cook of Apple,
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Speaker 3: both of whom have denied it. There's spokespeople have denied it.
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Speaker 3: That was actually the report that came out from Front
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Speaker 3: Office Sports. The writer ended up retracting it, basically saying, well,
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Speaker 3: they denied it a couple hours after he.
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Speaker 2: Wrote the story, so we didn't. We stayed away from
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Speaker 2: most of that.
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Speaker 3: Other than to say it was debunked. But this from
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Speaker 3: Sportico not denied. They both through they a dietcha. Mattal
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Speaker 3: and Wick Grosbec both just declined to comment to Sportigo
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Speaker 3: rather than deny it. And I mentioned at the top
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Speaker 3: Mattal fifty years old.
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Speaker 1: He made his family.
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Speaker 3: His family made a fortune in the steel industry in India.
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Speaker 3: It's one of that country's wealthiest families. And the former
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Speaker 3: Celtics controlling over Grosbec now Wick Grosbec had he's sixty four.
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Speaker 3: He had twenty five co investors in the Celtics. The
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Speaker 3: NBA has since changed out the limit to two dozen.
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Speaker 3: Ye can't have any more than twenty four owners. But
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Speaker 3: suffice to say, when there's a price tag going around
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Speaker 3: of eight nine, maybe ten billion dollars for the Seahawks.
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Speaker 3: That it isn't going to just be probably these two guys.
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Speaker 3: And the Sportico article this morning said that Mattal would
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Speaker 3: be the front man with the most money, he would
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Speaker 3: be the majority in this grouping, and that Grossbeck, who
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Speaker 3: ended up being the majority controlling owner and governor of
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Speaker 3: the Celtics, would take a more secondary role in this investment.
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Speaker 1: That's according to Sportico.
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Speaker 3: Sportigo reports and Grossbeck were the only signatures on a
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Speaker 3: letter of interest that was submitted to outing company. That's
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Speaker 3: the investment banking team chosen by the estate of Paul
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Speaker 3: g Allen to lead the sale process, and that's what
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Speaker 3: would make this the first verified interest so far in
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Speaker 3: buying the Seahawks. The Seahawks spokesman is saying there is
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Speaker 3: no news to share. Well, that may be true because
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Speaker 3: nobody's bought it yet. Mattaal and Grossbeck the client kind
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Speaker 3: a comment to Sportico in the article so okay, who
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Speaker 3: are these guys? I mentioned Mattala is fifty years old,
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Speaker 3: lives in London. He's expected to be the lead investor.
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Speaker 3: According to Sportico, Evan nov Williams and Scott Soschnik, where
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Speaker 3: their co authors. We're trying to get a hold of
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Speaker 3: Scott Skoschnick had potentially come on the show with us.
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Speaker 3: Dave Softimher and Dick Faine are trying to get even
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Speaker 3: Novie Williams of Sportyco to come on their show.
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Speaker 2: He's on today.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So for twenty eight today you'll hear from one
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Speaker 3: of the co authors of the Sportyco article about the
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Speaker 3: potential bidders here for.
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Speaker 2: The Seahawks, Grossbeck.
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Speaker 3: He was a venture capitalist focusing on technology investments.
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Speaker 2: He's sixty four years old. Sportygo reports the plan is for.
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Speaker 3: Grosspec to live in Seattle at least part time and
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Speaker 3: quote effectively operate the franchise.
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Speaker 1: Sources told Sportico.
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Speaker 3: That's what he was as the lead owner of the Celtics.
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Speaker 3: He ran the franchise, operate the franchise.
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Speaker 2: He's been to describe.
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Speaker 3: Grosspick has as a quote fan favorite owner of the
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Speaker 3: Celtics who had a passionate, hands on approach to ownership. Well,
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Speaker 3: that sounds like the exact opposite of what we've had
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Speaker 3: here with the Seahawks.
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Speaker 1: And Paul Allen and Jody Allen isn't it.
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Speaker 3: I mean for the last quarter century and more the
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Speaker 3: last thirty years since Paul Allen bought the team, they
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Speaker 3: have been hands off in terms of football operations. In
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Speaker 3: terms of fan front you don't see them at games.
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Speaker 3: We used to see Paul Allen in the locker room,
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Speaker 3: the beat guys and gals in the locker room. After
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Speaker 3: Seahawk games home and road. We don't see Jody Allen
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Speaker 3: at all. Maybe once a year at training camp, at
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Speaker 3: a practice on the side, and that's it. But they
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Speaker 3: are not mingling with the fans and grabbing microphones. And
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Speaker 3: that's what Wick Grospick was in Boston with the Celtics
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Speaker 3: during his time of owning the Celtics.
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Speaker 1: They won two NBA finals.
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Speaker 3: He was out front, he was at rallies, and he's,
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Speaker 3: as I said, described as a fan favorite. That's brand
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Speaker 3: new dynamic, or would be I should say for GM
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Speaker 3: John Schneider in the Seahawks football operations, because for thirty
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Speaker 3: years they've been pretty much left alone with a low
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Speaker 3: profile ownership. And if this is Sportco's report becomes the
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Speaker 3: actual bidders and they would actually buy the team, this
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Speaker 3: would be an adjustment. Now any adjustment from the Allen
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Speaker 3: family in the island of state of thirty years to
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Speaker 3: a new owner is going to be an adjustment for
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Speaker 3: Schneider in that side. But an owner who was as
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Speaker 3: involved as Grosspec was in Boston with the Celtics would
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Speaker 3: be a pretty radical departure in the day to day
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Speaker 3: operations of having an owner in the front. I don't know,
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Speaker 3: and I didn't see any evidence in Boston that Grosspec
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Speaker 3: was like a Jerry Jones holding press conferences and around
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Speaker 3: media scrums in the locker room after James, but still
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Speaker 3: compared to what the Seahawks have had, this would be
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Speaker 3: the difference.
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Speaker 2: Again he was opposite of in the Shadows.
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Speaker 3: Grossbeck has been described as quote perhaps the least well
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Speaker 3: capitalized owner in sports when he bought the Celtics with
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Speaker 3: twenty five of his rich friends, including his billionaire father.
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Speaker 3: His father was a pioneer in cable television when it
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Speaker 3: began about a half a century ago. With Grosbec, the
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Speaker 3: son owned the Celtics for twenty two years. He was
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Speaker 3: motivated by the Celtics quarter century ago when their owner
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Speaker 3: was then an absentee guy who lived in New York
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Speaker 3: never attended Celtics games in Boston. So you can see
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Speaker 3: why the sport ITC article is saying that Grossbeck would
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Speaker 3: live here at least part time in Seattle. Not so
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Speaker 3: with the lead investor, mattal the inference being that he
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Speaker 3: would stay in London but be the money front man.
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Speaker 3: Grossbeck and his partners twenty five of them, bought the
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Speaker 3: Celtics for three hundred and sixty million in two thousand
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Speaker 3: and two. Descent tounk of change right, Well, he sold
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Speaker 3: the Celtics last year for six billion. That's a pretty
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Speaker 3: good turnover in a return on investment. I mentioned he was
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Speaker 3: known as a fan favorite owner at games and comforting
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Speaker 3: with fans, celebrating when the team won their two more
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Speaker 3: NBA titles in that franchise's storied history. That's the sketch
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Speaker 3: of who these two are. And at ten billion dollars now,
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Speaker 3: Grossbec himself is a lot wealthier than he was when
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Speaker 3: he purchased the Celtics in two thousand and two, by
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Speaker 3: the fact he and his group just sold the Celtics
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Speaker 3: for six billion. But as I said, he had two
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Speaker 3: dozen investors with him, so it's not like he got
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Speaker 3: a six billion dollar check cut to him, So it
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Speaker 3: would it assume that they would have co investors with him,
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Speaker 3: and that these are the two leads, and they are
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Speaker 3: higher profile because they have owned the Celtics. Mattal was
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Speaker 3: an investor in Grosbec's Celtics ownership, and so they're not
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Speaker 3: brand new to this owning a sports team. But there
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Speaker 3: are differences obviously between the Celtics and the NBA and
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks in the NFL. The biggest one with being
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Speaker 3: the salary cap. Chris I've seen some reaction to fans
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Speaker 3: already saying, well, this is great because Grossbec spent a
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Speaker 3: ton in Boston. He spent on free agency, He resigned
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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, he resigned their stars, jam and Brown. Just spend, spend,
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Speaker 3: spend to win, and it worked to NBA Finals. But
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Speaker 3: the NBA has exceptions to its cap. It's a soft cap.
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Speaker 3: You have the Larry Bird exemption, you have a bunch
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Speaker 3: of contracts that you can resign your own guys, and
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Speaker 3: twenty percent. There's all kinds of confusing. You think the
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Speaker 3: NFL salary cap is confusing. The NBA salary cap with
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Speaker 3: all its exceptions, you can go above the salary cap
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Speaker 3: and so the owners that spend can win. The NFL
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Speaker 3: is not that way. Obviously, it's a hard cap. So
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Speaker 3: no matter how richard I mean, they don't come much
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Speaker 3: richard than Paul Allen. He could only spend up to
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Speaker 3: a ceiling. He and the owner of the Cleveland Browns
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Speaker 3: and the Green Bay Packers, in the Houston Texans and
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Speaker 3: the Arizona car all can spend up to the same limit,
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Speaker 3: no matter how richs they are. So in terms of
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Speaker 3: product on the field, Grossbec's history with buying players and
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Speaker 3: getting the Celtics championships and resigning his own players doesn't
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Speaker 3: really apply to the NFL because he will have a
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Speaker 3: cap here that he didn't have as harder cap in
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Speaker 3: the NBA. And that's important to know because I don't
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Speaker 3: think that a previous owner of an NBA team's spending
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Speaker 3: history on players applies at all to the Seahawks situation.
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Speaker 2: Now, I think the bigger question is do Seahawks fans
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Speaker 2: care more about the deep pockets or the experience around
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Speaker 2: football for the next owner. Because this guy, he got
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Speaker 2: the money, it appears he could easily go out here
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Speaker 2: and do this. But as a fan, what do you
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Speaker 2: want to see from this owner. Do you care that
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Speaker 2: he has billions of dollar that he's willing to throw
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Speaker 2: to own the team, or are you looking at it
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Speaker 2: from a football standpoint, like to your point about building
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Speaker 2: up the team and the organization seeing fit seeing through
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Speaker 2: John Schneider McDonald's image of this team and how it's built.
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Speaker 2: So that's a question that could come into fruition considering
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Speaker 2: he is one of the guys that can put some
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Speaker 2: money down to try to be the next owner of
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Speaker 2: this franchise. Because I think Jody's done a really good
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Speaker 2: job with it right. Granted, she's been more hands off
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Speaker 2: and she does what she needs to do to fulfill
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Speaker 2: certain needs that the team wants or you name it.
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Speaker 2: But now someone new coming in, would you say Jody
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Speaker 2: Allen fit the deep pocket or was she more of
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Speaker 2: the football experience.
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Speaker 3: Well, she was of the same persuasion of her brother
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Speaker 3: Paul Allen and letting the football guys do football and
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Speaker 3: did not meddle. She was the final stamp approval has
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Speaker 3: been the final stamp approval on contracts on trades. The
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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson trade doesn't happen without Jody Allen's approval. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: the Sam Darnold signing. The trading of DK Metcalf and
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Speaker 3: you know Smith within two or three days of each other,
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Speaker 3: would not have happened without Jody Allen.
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Speaker 2: Jody Allen is usually in the back of the room.
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Speaker 3: Monitoring and being told about the draft. For instance, it
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Speaker 3: was Burt Cole this year the vice chair. But she
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Speaker 3: is not making the decisions for John Schneider. And that's
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Speaker 3: a big distinction to say, Jerry Jones and some other
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Speaker 3: owners in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: So she if Chris.
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Speaker 3: Basically to summarize how Jody Allen handled that after her
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Speaker 3: brother died in twenty eighteen, she took the approach of
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Speaker 3: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And this team
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Speaker 3: has had its most sustained run of success and super
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Speaker 3: Bowl championship, the only two super Bowl championships, and it's
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Speaker 3: fifty one year history in this ownership, in this stewardship.
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Speaker 3: So she just didn't change anything. And maybe that's good
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Speaker 3: advice for the next owner.
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of fans who would it worked for
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Speaker 3: the last twenty years, right, So why.
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Speaker 2: Would why fix it? Why try to do your thing
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Speaker 2: when something that's proven to work before? Someone just took
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Speaker 2: the reins and did the same way, copy and repeat.
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Speaker 3: But course, the difference once you punk down six eight,
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Speaker 3: ten billion.
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Speaker 2: Dollars, I hear you, it's it's like, yo, I want
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Speaker 2: to have to say, it's easier said than done. Not
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Speaker 2: to mention her brother was the guy that was doing everything.
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Speaker 2: Jody Allen didn't plunk down ten billions eight billion dollars. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so it's a little different. But even then you're a billionaire,
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Speaker 2: are you really tripping over ten billion that you put
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Speaker 2: into a franchise that you know you're going to get
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Speaker 2: ten fold back in the next twenty thirty years. It's
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Speaker 2: like you got to think ahead, right, because that's why
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Speaker 2: they're investing this money, because they know twenty thirty years,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have wealth, wealth, wealth, wealth, wealth, as opposed
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Speaker 2: to well, I'm putting money down, give like I want
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Speaker 2: to have, say, oh, you want to get this quarterback? Now,
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Speaker 2: I don't like them, but I don't watch football either.
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Speaker 2: What the hell are we talking about here?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: That's almost a discussion about parents stepping on toes of
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Speaker 2: these kids trying to get them to do everything. It's like,
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Speaker 2: let the child, let the kids be the kids. So
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Speaker 2: in this scenario. If you know about the money process,
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Speaker 2: that's great. Just worry about the money, maybe not so
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Speaker 2: much the players and all that. Mike mc donald John
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Speaker 2: can help you, but let's not jump into that territory
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Speaker 2: if you're not in that bag. And I think that
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Speaker 2: might be this. Sticking to your point about Jody, she
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Speaker 2: just you know, Hey, I'm the final say, but I
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Speaker 2: trust what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: Greg.
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Speaker 2: The story you wrote, that's cool, go ahead, put it
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Speaker 2: out there. It makes sense. I'm with it as opposed
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Speaker 2: to Greg. I don't know. I've never been a journalist
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Speaker 2: on this level. But here's Mike. So I'm hoping that
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Speaker 2: whoever the new owner is, maybe he just does what
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Speaker 2: Jodi did, takes out the notepad and pen I respect
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Speaker 2: it cool, do what you gotta do.
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Speaker 3: That's a good question. Chris brings up four nine four
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Speaker 3: five one on the Tacoma Dodge text line. As a
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Speaker 3: Seahawk fan, do you want it to be status quo
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Speaker 3: as it has been for the last twenty five years
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Speaker 3: in terms of ownership and behind the scenes and letting
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Speaker 3: the football guys do football stuff, or are you of
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Speaker 3: the belief that, yeah, ten billion dollars buys you influence,
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Speaker 3: and the new owners are obviously going to have more
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Speaker 3: of a say than the current owners have for the
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Speaker 3: reasons we just outlined, and that's part of the business
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Speaker 3: in modern sports. And if you pay that much money,
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Speaker 3: you're damn right they're going to have a say in
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Speaker 3: how things operate and whether US Seahawk fans are ready
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Speaker 3: for that. Four nine four five one, And we'll talk
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Speaker 3: to ten thirty about that.
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Speaker 1: When we come back.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk a little more about this and why we
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Speaker 3: maybe getting ahead of ourselves and talking about these potential
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Speaker 3: bidders or apparently bidders it's d d ers. Some people
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Speaker 3: next hour. Mariners one last yesterday afternoon three to one
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Speaker 3: Brian returning to Brian wu form as we talked about
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Speaker 3: the top of the show this morning. The news of
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Speaker 3: the day is what appears to be the first verified
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Speaker 3: interest in buying the Seahawks from two investors who have
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Speaker 3: history with the Boston Celtics. The former Celtics principal governor
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Speaker 3: controlling owner.
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Speaker 1: Wick.
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Speaker 3: Some people call him the most that's his given name.
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Speaker 3: I should say Wick. Some people came IRV. You'll see
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Speaker 3: that somewhere. It is a nickname named after us. I
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Speaker 3: believe his father, Crossback, sixty four years old, was the
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Speaker 3: Celtics principal owner. He lives on the East Coast and
18:06
Speaker 3: still lives on the East Coast. Aditscha Mattal is fifty
18:11
Speaker 3: years old, lives in London and on the text line.
18:14
Speaker 3: I can already see this, and I know we usually
18:15
Speaker 3: wait till eleven thirty, but there's some things here that
18:17
Speaker 3: are worth bringing up. The London angle is worrying some
18:22
Speaker 3: of you. Four two five great A possible owner from London.
18:25
Speaker 3: Pretty sure the NFL wants a team there.
18:28
Speaker 1: Pass I get it.
18:31
Speaker 3: Mike, longtime listener and Texter from the eight oh one
18:34
Speaker 3: give it our experience with Clay Bennett. Shut it even
18:39
Speaker 3: bring up his name in Seattle. Are there any concerns
18:42
Speaker 3: that this primary owner who lives in London, Matal might
18:45
Speaker 3: move the team there. The NFL is definitely moving to Europe.
18:50
Speaker 1: I get it.
18:51
Speaker 3: There is a push within the NFL and has been
18:55
Speaker 3: for years to go international and put a team there.
19:00
Speaker 3: Seen as the most obvious candidate to have a new
19:02
Speaker 3: team because of many factors. One, you can almost fly
19:06
Speaker 3: from the East Coast, where everyone in the NFL located
19:09
Speaker 3: headquarters and decisions thought from. You can almost fly from
19:13
Speaker 3: New York to London. And about the time you can
19:15
Speaker 3: from New York to the West coast. When you fly
19:18
Speaker 3: east to west to take longer, the jet streams in
19:20
Speaker 3: your face as a plane, and what five six hour flights? Hey,
19:23
Speaker 3: Boston and Seattle. I do it all the time with
19:25
Speaker 3: our daughter at school in Connecticut. It's like a five
19:27
Speaker 3: and a half six hour flight. You can get to
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Speaker 3: London from Boston and New York in about that time.
19:33
Speaker 3: The other thing is how many times have they played
19:36
Speaker 3: in London? Now it's been two dozen or more games
19:38
Speaker 3: for the last quarter century. Two or three get more
19:41
Speaker 3: than that, two or three games a year are in London.
19:44
Speaker 3: The market is set they had. The NFL isn't grained there.
19:47
Speaker 3: There are weekly games and sky Sports broadcasting NFL shows
19:51
Speaker 3: and Phoebe Scheckter, one of the hosts of sky Sports,
19:55
Speaker 3: I was hanging around with in Munich, and she was
19:57
Speaker 3: talking to me about what the brig this daily not weekly,
20:02
Speaker 3: daily experience of NFL viewing and content and recording their
20:05
Speaker 3: reporting is. So they have established a foothold for sure.
20:09
Speaker 3: And if there was one Europeans market, you would think
20:12
Speaker 3: the NFL is going to go to first, it's going
20:13
Speaker 3: to be London for all the inroads they've made there.
20:17
Speaker 3: But now moving a team to London is a different
20:19
Speaker 3: matter altogether. There's also in the text line the question
20:24
Speaker 3: of from Jeremy and another good question four to five
20:27
Speaker 3: Jeremy another off in textor does the trust have to
20:31
Speaker 3: first approval of a buyer or is it the NFL
20:34
Speaker 3: just taking the highest bidder.
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Speaker 1: That's a good question.
20:39
Speaker 3: The trust, Jody Allen, Burke Cole the trust and acting
20:42
Speaker 3: in the interest of the trust, get final say. But
20:46
Speaker 3: Paul Allen's directive when in his will was that sell
20:52
Speaker 3: the Blazers and the Seahawks so that the proceeds go
20:55
Speaker 3: to charity. That's an important distinction here. It's not that
20:58
Speaker 3: Jody Allen is just going to pop at all of
21:00
Speaker 3: this money the Paul Allend Trust. She's doing okay, thank you,
21:04
Speaker 3: without this money for sale. This money for this Seahawks
21:08
Speaker 3: sales to go to philanthropy, and so it behoo's the
21:13
Speaker 3: trust and those in charge of the taking care of
21:16
Speaker 3: the trust, which is Jody Allen Burke cold to get
21:19
Speaker 3: the most money you can so that the philanthropies can
21:22
Speaker 3: benefit the most, right, And that's that's the intent of
21:24
Speaker 3: Paul Allen when he said he was selling to He
21:26
Speaker 3: didn't want you to them to sell it for cheap. The NFL,
21:31
Speaker 3: of course, has in its best interest of its owners.
21:34
Speaker 3: Let's face it, Roger Goodell makes the Commissioner makes forty
21:38
Speaker 3: four million dollars a year for the working for the
21:40
Speaker 3: owners to get the highest sale price possible, of course,
21:44
Speaker 3: because then the other all thirty one other teams will
21:47
Speaker 3: divide up the proceeds from this sale.
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Speaker 1: That's how this works.
21:53
Speaker 3: And if it was an expansion team, I misstated that
21:58
Speaker 3: the trust, Paul old Trust, would get the proceeds from
22:01
Speaker 3: the sale. The owners would benefit by the revenue increased
22:08
Speaker 3: by the sale. If there was an expansion team in London,
22:10
Speaker 3: they would get all of that revenue split evenly across
22:13
Speaker 3: the teams, just like the situation we're having in the
22:15
Speaker 3: NBA in Seattle. So in that case, if there was
22:19
Speaker 3: a London expansion team to carry the text lines scenario
22:23
Speaker 3: out further, there would be of course an interest to
22:26
Speaker 3: have it to the highest spider. But the NFL, to
22:29
Speaker 3: more to the point, want each valuation of each sale
22:32
Speaker 3: to be the highest it can, so the next team
22:34
Speaker 3: to sell will be high higher, and therefore goes on
22:39
Speaker 3: and on, valuations of teams rising waters raise all ships.
22:46
Speaker 3: The Washington Commanders, for instance, sold for it. I think
22:48
Speaker 3: it was six billion dollars last year. I mean, we're
22:52
Speaker 3: just talking about monopoly money at this point. We just
22:54
Speaker 3: talked around six billion and ten billion and everything else.
22:56
Speaker 3: But they wanted with the media rights and the value
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Speaker 3: of teams and the revenue that the NFL printing money,
23:02
Speaker 3: they want the valuation of teams to go up correspondingly
23:06
Speaker 3: with everything else that goes up. So it would make
23:07
Speaker 3: no sense for the Seahawks, for instance, in Joey Allen
23:10
Speaker 3: to take a five billion dollar bid for the sake
23:13
Speaker 3: of well, we like their owners better than this ten
23:15
Speaker 3: billion dollar bid. They're not going to undercut the league's
23:18
Speaker 3: trend of wanting to get each sale higher than the
23:20
Speaker 3: previous one. And it was six billion dollars for Washington.
23:22
Speaker 3: I didn't state that very clearly, but you know what
23:24
Speaker 3: I mean. Anyway, it does is Keith point on the
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Speaker 3: text line, makes zero sense to move a franchise like
23:30
Speaker 3: the Seahawks, doesn't matter where the owner is from. And
23:33
Speaker 3: I totally agree. And there is nothing from the NFL.
23:36
Speaker 3: And I talk to people at the Super Bowl about this.
23:38
Speaker 3: There is nothing in the cards saying that this sale
23:41
Speaker 3: is going to result in the movement of the team.
23:45
Speaker 3: Hell mattal was an investor, has been an investor in
23:48
Speaker 3: the Celtics while he still lives in London, and the
23:50
Speaker 3: Celtics aren't going anywhere. The NFL has and I've been
23:54
Speaker 3: told this by NFL people in the headquarters. The NFL
23:58
Speaker 3: has a vested interest in the Seahawks here as one
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Speaker 3: of the only teams in like a six hour driving radio.
24:04
Speaker 3: More than that, what is it fourteen hours twelve hours
24:08
Speaker 3: to the Bay area. There are no teams from the
24:11
Speaker 3: Dakotas through Montana to Idaho. I don't have to remind
24:15
Speaker 3: people in Seattle is or through Oregon or to Alaska.
24:20
Speaker 3: In the NFL north of San Francisco or west of Minneapolis.
24:25
Speaker 3: If you go through that northern tier Denver, Minneapolis, San Francisco,
24:30
Speaker 3: and then Seattle stuck up there in the upper left
24:32
Speaker 3: corner of the continent as the NFL's only team. Not
24:37
Speaker 3: to mention, which the corporate wealth that's in this city
24:41
Speaker 3: and the explosion of corporate wealth from the technology sector
24:44
Speaker 3: in Amazon and Google. They want to be a part
24:46
Speaker 3: of that, and they want season ticket holders to be
24:49
Speaker 3: Microsoft in Amazon and all of the So this is
24:52
Speaker 3: seen that's part of the reason the NBA wants to
24:55
Speaker 3: come back here to tap into the technology wealth in Seattle.
25:01
Speaker 3: But the concerns are valid because this is change, and
25:04
Speaker 3: with change becomes discomfort. And no matter who buys the team,
25:09
Speaker 3: if their name is not Allen, this will be different
25:11
Speaker 3: than the last thirty years in Seattle because Paul Allen,
25:15
Speaker 3: we all know, bought the team to keep Ken Baring
25:17
Speaker 3: from moving it to Southern California, which he moved part
25:19
Speaker 3: of the front office too. For a couple of days
25:22
Speaker 3: for the NFL stepped in and said no way, Paul
25:24
Speaker 3: Allen bottom And for the last thirty years it's been
25:27
Speaker 3: an Allen run franchise, and no matter who buys him,
25:30
Speaker 3: is going to be different than that. And as we
25:32
Speaker 3: pointed out in the last segment, if it's this until
25:36
Speaker 3: recently now former Celtics owner who was out front, fan favorite,
25:42
Speaker 3: highly engaged, that will be the opposite of what the
25:45
Speaker 3: experience has been for John Schneider in the football staff
25:47
Speaker 3: for the last seventeen years of his gmship, of having
25:50
Speaker 3: an owner who's not in the weeds and back behind.
25:53
Speaker 3: And the reports from Sportico again are that if it
25:59
Speaker 3: is gross Bay who wins the bid in his group
26:01
Speaker 3: with matal he Grosspeck will move from the East Coast
26:04
Speaker 3: to Seattle at least part time. But I get it
26:09
Speaker 3: where provincial or regional. If you're from the Northwest, you
26:12
Speaker 3: want everything to be from the Northwest. There's an understanding here,
26:16
Speaker 3: a community in civic trust.
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure I don't.
26:21
Speaker 3: I have not spoken to Jody Allen and asked her
26:23
Speaker 3: this question, but I have spoken to Burke cold at
26:25
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and I asked him specifically about the
26:28
Speaker 3: potential for moving with a sale, and he said, we
26:32
Speaker 3: have been stewards. I'm paraphrasing. You can go to the
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Speaker 3: News Tribune dot com with us up under Burke Cole
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Speaker 3: b E. R. T. Ko Lde in Super Bowl the
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Speaker 3: News Tribune. He told me when I asked him about
26:42
Speaker 3: the fears fans will have about potentially Seahawks potentially moving
26:46
Speaker 3: with the sale, he said, I can't speak to that specifically,
26:50
Speaker 3: or I won't speak to that specifically because I didn't
26:52
Speaker 3: want to get ahead of who the bidders might be.
26:54
Speaker 3: But he did say, I will tell you that the
26:57
Speaker 3: Paul Allen family, the Allen family have been stewards for
27:01
Speaker 3: this community, in this franchise for half a century. He
27:06
Speaker 3: mentioned the commitment to soccer and building the new stadium
27:10
Speaker 3: downtown to soccer specifications which are coming to Fruition again
27:13
Speaker 3: this summer with the World Cup being here. His words
27:17
Speaker 3: and look to me were basically, we know what we're doing.
27:20
Speaker 3: We're not going to screw the city.
27:22
Speaker 1: Now.
27:23
Speaker 3: He didn't come out and say that because he's again
27:25
Speaker 3: not going to get ahead of who the potential bidders
27:27
Speaker 3: are in the sale process and the vetting and all
27:29
Speaker 3: of that. But Burt Cold related to me that he
27:33
Speaker 3: understands the civic responsibility they have in this sale process
27:39
Speaker 3: of a civic treasure in the Seahawks, and let's just
27:42
Speaker 3: call it that what it is. So we'll see nothing's guarantee, right, Chris,
27:48
Speaker 3: money talks.
27:49
Speaker 2: Money talks, But I think the Seahawks have a way,
27:52
Speaker 2: and they've been doing it for some time. You would
27:54
Speaker 2: think that you're, as a new owner coming in, just
27:58
Speaker 2: get in where you fit in and let things be.
28:01
Speaker 2: But to your point, investing that type of cash changes
28:05
Speaker 2: people a little bit, and I can't hold that person.
28:08
Speaker 2: I can't be upset at a person for films the
28:10
Speaker 2: type of way. But at the same time, it's only
28:12
Speaker 2: a couple billion for you. You'll be I you know what
28:14
Speaker 2: I'm saying, You'll be okay. So this will be interesting
28:17
Speaker 2: to see how this plays over the next few months,
28:20
Speaker 2: going into next year, i'd imagine, but maybe even sooner.
28:23
Speaker 3: The other thing to consider is how many times does
28:26
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl champion or a reigning league champion get sold.
28:31
Speaker 1: This is rare.
28:32
Speaker 3: I can't think of a time that a team has
28:34
Speaker 3: been sold in North American sports history mere months after
28:37
Speaker 3: they won a title. And that changes the dynamics for
28:41
Speaker 3: the new owners coming in of wait a minute, nothing's
28:43
Speaker 3: broken operation on the field or on the court here.
28:47
Speaker 3: Why would I change a champion's operation in the arena
28:50
Speaker 3: of the game. Now, not every I mean a lot
28:53
Speaker 3: of times teams are sold when they are not going well,
28:57
Speaker 3: the Sonics being a prime example of that. Howard Schultz
29:00
Speaker 3: got the money, got the value of the team much
29:03
Speaker 3: higher than he bought it. For Get the product they
29:06
Speaker 3: let run into the ground and so that everyone could
29:08
Speaker 3: not come to the games and say KI Arena was terrible,
29:10
Speaker 3: and then Clay Bennett could move them. I'm simplifying, but
29:12
Speaker 3: that's basically what happened. It wasn't the NBA. The Sonics
29:16
Speaker 3: had not won the NBA title three months before Clay
29:19
Speaker 3: Bennett moved them. So this is a very unique situation
29:22
Speaker 3: of a new owner looking at the operations, the day
29:24
Speaker 3: to day operations of what makes the money the games,
29:28
Speaker 3: and saying, when they ain't broke, they're the best in
29:30
Speaker 3: the world at this. And that is unique. And all
29:34
Speaker 3: the sales that I've covered in twenty five years of
29:36
Speaker 3: doing this, I cannot remember a time that a team
29:40
Speaker 3: has been sold at its apex of winning a World
29:42
Speaker 3: championship within months. And that alone should keep the new
29:46
Speaker 3: owners from doing much on the football side now. Operationally
29:49
Speaker 3: in the building, yeah, they're going to bring their own
29:52
Speaker 3: people in. They didn't become billionaires just by themselves. They
29:55
Speaker 3: had teams and they've had loyal people working for them,
29:57
Speaker 3: and that will be changed.
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Speaker 1: Four nine.
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Speaker 3: We will talk again about this at eleven thirty with
30:02
Speaker 3: your questions and comments about that. Up next to the NBA,
30:05
Speaker 3: Chris is Sport Draymond Green and Charles Barkley got into
30:09
Speaker 3: a little spat, and we're going to put a little
30:11
Speaker 3: fact behind this to maybe put Draymond Green in perspective.
30:16
Speaker 3: At eleven o'clock, the college receiver coach for Seahawks sixth
30:19
Speaker 3: round pick Emmanuel Henderson, junior from Kansas. He also coached
30:23
Speaker 3: Cody White, Seahawks receiver. He also recruited Ricky White, the
30:27
Speaker 3: third to Michigan State the Seahawks receiver. A lot of
30:30
Speaker 3: Seahawks ties to the Kansas receiver coach. You'll hear from
30:32
Speaker 3: him at eleven o'clock. All that coming up on ninety
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Speaker 3: three point three KJRFM. Multiple bidders to compete against each
30:38
Speaker 3: other to drive the price up, and so sure enough
30:42
Speaker 3: Scott Sosnick and Evan Novy Williams, the two sport Go
30:45
Speaker 3: reporters who this morning broke the news that the Seahawks
30:49
Speaker 3: had two potential Celtics investors, including the former Celtics lead owner,
30:54
Speaker 3: as preparing a bid. A second story has come out
30:58
Speaker 3: in the last hour and a half that a billionaire
31:02
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers investor, vend Koshla, he's a co founder
31:05
Speaker 3: of Sun Microsystems, of preparing a Seahawks bid. Kozla is
31:10
Speaker 3: estimated to be worth fourteen and a half billion dollars
31:13
Speaker 3: by Forbes. He recently purchased a minority stake down there
31:18
Speaker 3: in the Bay Area to the forty nine Ers. He'd
31:20
Speaker 3: have to divest assumably divest of that to buy the Seahawks.
31:25
Speaker 3: Ken on multiple teams in the same league said the
31:30
Speaker 3: cause It didn't immediately respond to an email seeking comment.
31:33
Speaker 3: A rep for Allen and Company, which was retained to
31:35
Speaker 3: handle the sale, declined to comment. This is from sport
31:37
Speaker 3: it Goo, representative for the Seahawks. At an email Wednesday night,
31:39
Speaker 3: there was quote no news to share about the process.
31:43
Speaker 3: That's a familiar refrain until there's news. They will say
31:47
Speaker 3: there's no news until they can confirm, and they're not
31:50
Speaker 3: going to confirm potential bidding until the bids begin. Even
31:53
Speaker 3: then they may not until they choose one. But there's
31:56
Speaker 3: your go there you go. That's the multiple bids of
31:58
Speaker 3: competing bids already in apparently two different bid Sportic reporting
32:02
Speaker 3: for the Seahawks. Much much more to come on this,
32:08
Speaker 3: much more to come, including at four twenty eight today
32:10
Speaker 3: when one of the co authors of the Sportyco article
32:13
Speaker 3: is going to be on with Dave Softy Maller and
32:14
Speaker 3: Dick Fane. We're trying to get the other one to
32:16
Speaker 3: come on the show as well. Whether that's today before
32:18
Speaker 3: we come off the air, might be tomorrow. Scott shows
32:21
Speaker 3: Nick all Right in the NBA last night Inside the NBA,
32:25
Speaker 3: Draymond Green of the Warriors who are eliminated so he's
32:27
Speaker 3: got time and can be on the show, and Charles
32:29
Speaker 3: Barkley got into it last night. Nobody wins when the
32:32
Speaker 3: thirty seven thirty eight you said what you said, I
32:35
Speaker 3: didn't want to hear if he believes what you're talking.
32:38
Speaker 2: I think the goal is just to not look like
32:40
Speaker 2: you in the Houston Rockers uniform.
32:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, is ultimately the goal for us, Like we don't
32:45
Speaker 1: want to What does that look like? Did you see it?
32:49
Speaker 1: I'm just asking.
32:51
Speaker 2: I saw.
32:53
Speaker 3: That was Kenny Smith in the middle trying to egg
32:56
Speaker 3: on the conversation. This was funny, Chris, I thought, because
33:02
Speaker 3: I mean, Draymond Green is a footnote in Warriors history
33:06
Speaker 3: of winning titles. To me, he was almost a sideshow
33:09
Speaker 3: carnival act at times with his antics. Where Charles Barkley
33:14
Speaker 3: is one of the best players in NBA history. Andy
33:16
Speaker 3: Bailey of bleacher Report before you Colli Chris, he pointed
33:21
Speaker 3: out that Charles Barkley and his fourth seasons is a
33:23
Speaker 3: Houston Rocket, when apparently Raymond Green thinks he was washed
33:26
Speaker 3: up in useless, had averaged sixteen and a half points,
33:29
Speaker 3: twelve rebounds, four assists. He was a plus four and
33:35
Speaker 3: plus minus. Draymond's Green's last four season that the Warriors
33:38
Speaker 3: have been eight point six points, six rebounds, six assists
33:42
Speaker 3: and a point five plus minus. Yes, that's they don't
33:47
Speaker 3: add up at all. Charles is a better basketball player
33:50
Speaker 3: than Draymond was, however you want to phrase it. Charles
33:54
Speaker 3: wasn't even disrespecting the Warriors. He was making a basketball
33:59
Speaker 3: point about dynasties. In aging, every great team declines, whether
34:07
Speaker 3: it's the Warriors, the Boston Celtics, the Lakers.
34:10
Speaker 2: You can go on and on about all these dynasties.
34:12
Speaker 2: Maybe age didn't even play a factor, right, But they've
34:15
Speaker 2: been doing it for so long it's actually a fact.
34:19
Speaker 2: It's just you can't continue winning. It's it's just uncommon.
34:22
Speaker 2: You don't see it. Steph Curry has four championships. He's aging.
34:28
Speaker 2: It's gonna be that much harder for him to get
34:29
Speaker 2: his fifth. Look at Lebron. He out here playing with
34:33
Speaker 2: everything he got at forty one years old, and that's
34:35
Speaker 2: not gonna be enough. They're gonna get swept. So oh yeah,
34:39
Speaker 2: they're gonna get swept. Barkley even gave praise to the
34:41
Speaker 2: Warriors early on in that clip. We didn't play the
34:43
Speaker 2: entire thing, but he gave praise. He was just pointing
34:47
Speaker 2: out my original statement that I made. You guys are
34:50
Speaker 2: getting old. That dynasty is a rapt it's just not happening.
34:54
Speaker 2: And Draymond took so much offense to that and made
34:56
Speaker 2: it personal by attacking Charles, which I get it. It's
34:59
Speaker 2: the fun joke. He's the only person on set that
35:02
Speaker 2: doesn't have a championship ring. So when you disagree with
35:05
Speaker 2: his analysis, whatever the case may be, the first thing
35:08
Speaker 2: you're going to bring up is, well, wait up, how
35:11
Speaker 2: many championship you got youck, But his impact was further
35:15
Speaker 2: than that. He just didn't have opportunity. He wasn't lucky
35:17
Speaker 2: enough to go to an organization to win. And at
35:21
Speaker 2: that level Draymond did get lucky enough. But Charles also
35:24
Speaker 2: played really good basketball. And if he didn't run into
35:27
Speaker 2: freaking Michael Jordan in the nineties, he would have a ring.
35:31
Speaker 3: And if he also hadn't gotten heard in a series
35:33
Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals against the Utah Jazz. The Jazz
35:37
Speaker 3: one of those years they ended up going to the finals.
35:39
Speaker 3: I think it was the one they lost in the
35:40
Speaker 3: bull the push off by all year. Yeah, he got
35:45
Speaker 3: Barkley missed the elimination games with an injury. A lot
35:47
Speaker 3: of people in Houston and in the NBA think that
35:49
Speaker 3: if Barkley had played in those games, the Rockets would
35:52
Speaker 3: have been in the finals against them.
35:53
Speaker 2: I'll leave it at this with Barkley, NBA MVP, Hall
35:58
Speaker 2: of Famer, one of the greatest greatest power forwards of
36:02
Speaker 2: all time. Not to mention, he'd been around quite some time,
36:06
Speaker 2: so he knows this stuff. I know he didn't win
36:08
Speaker 2: a championship, but let's not discredit him for that. You
36:11
Speaker 2: need a little luck to win a championship. Draymond got
36:14
Speaker 2: lucky four times.
36:15
Speaker 1: He had the best shooter on the planet.
36:16
Speaker 2: Go out, and Katy the boy's punking this man. You're
36:20
Speaker 2: trying to join the team. Who's gonna say no to that?
36:23
Speaker 2: Katie wants a ring. So let's not act like Barkley
36:26
Speaker 2: was just some scrub and made it to the NBA
36:28
Speaker 2: and now he's on TNT giving his thoughts. That's not
36:30
Speaker 2: what it is. And Draymond does that too much. I
36:33
Speaker 2: think it's funny after the first time, but you're doing
36:36
Speaker 2: it every time now, bruh, can you come up with
36:38
Speaker 2: something new? Coming up next? We've got something new.
36:42
Speaker 3: Terrence Samuel is the receivers coach at the University of
36:45
Speaker 3: Kansas College position coach for a Seahawks six round pick
36:49
Speaker 3: Emmanuel Henderson Junior. He's also coached Cody White at the Seahawks.
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Speaker 3: He's recruited Ricky White at the Seahawks to Michigan State.
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Speaker 3: He will join us next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 5: Hey next here, letting you know that Burger Rama has
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Speaker 5: returned to the RAM five limited edition brand new burger
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Speaker 5: creations that are all spectacular. Turn up the heat with
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Speaker 5: the ring of fire head, overseas with the Bangcock Blaze,
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Speaker 5: or south of the border with the Fajida Fiesta. Want
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Speaker 5: extra meat, try the Steakhouse Stack or my personal favorite
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Speaker 5: of the year, the Pit Boss. It's a whole backyard
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Speaker 5: barbecue on a bun. And along with those great new
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Speaker 5: burger offerings are four new cocktails as well, but only
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Speaker 5: for a limited time and only at the RAM two.
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Speaker 2: Five three two four three nineteen ninety nine two five
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