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We Are Shaking Our Heads After First Live Interview with Taylor Frankie Paul · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Heather, Folks, it is Wednesday, March eighteenth, that we got
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Speaker 1: an update already to the story that's making headlines all
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Speaker 1: over the place. Taylor Frankie Paul, the new Bachelorette, has
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Speaker 1: done her first sit down interview, first live interview since
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Speaker 1: all these headlines about a domestic violence investigation came out
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Speaker 1: with that welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ
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Speaker 1: robes this. I think the interview is making headlines for
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Speaker 1: what was not asked and what was not said.
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Speaker 2: Yes, both of those things are true. Instead of being
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Speaker 2: asked a direct question, she was given the opportunity to
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Speaker 2: respond to the headline surrounding her domestic violence investigation, where
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Speaker 2: police have confirmed that yes, both she and her ex
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Speaker 2: are being criminally investigated, and she basically just talked about
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Speaker 2: how hard it is on her.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you've seen a lot of the headlines and it
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Speaker 1: looks like, let's all right, this is where we are.
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Speaker 1: The Bachelorette starts on Sunday. The show has been in
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Speaker 1: the ratings dump for a while. Declines have been happening.
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Speaker 1: Even questions about whether or not this show, the Bachelorette
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Speaker 1: franchise would continue, come in swoop in big announcement Taylor
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Speaker 1: Frankie Paul, a controversial fire brand but also someone popular
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Speaker 1: on another Disney show on Hulu, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so that's the setup. This is all important now, Robes.
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Speaker 1: Heading into Sunday, this was her first opportunity to address
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Speaker 1: these questions. Do you want to start with this interview?
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Speaker 1: The questions are the answers.
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Speaker 3: Let's start with the question, because that's how it began.
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Speaker 1: Let's do that, Robes. All these headlines have been going on.
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Speaker 1: What is question number one? What should question number one?
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Speaker 1: For you? At least I should say have been.
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Speaker 2: My first question would be do you think it's appropriate
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Speaker 2: that you are the bachelorette and that people should tune
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Speaker 2: in and watch you look for love while there are
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Speaker 2: now allegations that you are being investigated for domestic violence?
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Speaker 1: That's the question. Okay, that's better than one I had.
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Speaker 1: That's the question, ro because you're putting you in a
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Speaker 1: position to now justin why does this make sense? Why
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Speaker 1: should we root for you? That's a good question mine
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Speaker 1: just simply what have been is their truth? Can you
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Speaker 1: absolutely tell us that this did not happen and that
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Speaker 1: moving forward, everybody can feel good rooting about someone that
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Speaker 1: they know there's not going to be a video later
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Speaker 1: coming out of you hitting on someone.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the point being is, look, you and I
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Speaker 2: both know and as journalists for the last three decades,
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Speaker 2: I believe you can ask anybody anything if you ask
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Speaker 2: them a question with respective and I also think you
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Speaker 2: have to follow up when people don't give you an answer.
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Speaker 3: You can't make somebody answer a question. She didn't have to.
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Speaker 2: She can say whatever she wants, but as a journalist,
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Speaker 2: you need to ask the direct question, and when she
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Speaker 2: doesn't give you a response, you have to at least
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Speaker 2: follow up. And I think you can ask her, did
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Speaker 2: you are you being investigated? Why are you being investigated?
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Speaker 2: Did you do anything that could be considered criminal? And
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Speaker 2: she can say I can't say, I can't talk about it,
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Speaker 2: I don't want That's fine, but I still think you
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Speaker 2: need to ask those direct questions.
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Speaker 1: That was not the question that was asked. We will
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Speaker 1: let you know. This was done on Good Morning America.
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Speaker 1: This was a five minute segment live in studio. Now,
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Speaker 1: the person handling the interview was not one of your
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Speaker 1: Big two or Big three journalists. I should say your
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Speaker 1: three hosts but it was the she still considered the
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Speaker 1: entertainment anchor.
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Speaker 3: I think Lara Lara Spencer.
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Speaker 2: We know her well and worked with her for many, many,
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Speaker 2: many years. But yes, I think she is.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: She's had different titles, official titles, including concer of Good
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Speaker 2: Morning America, but she has been the one who typically
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Speaker 2: handles celebrity entertainment headlines.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is everyone right, Everyone who has been
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Speaker 1: following this story probably had the same question for her.
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Speaker 1: But this is how Lara chose to ask it. Quote,
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Speaker 1: what do you want to say about the alleged domestic
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Speaker 1: violence incident with your ex boyfriend? What do you want
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Speaker 1: to share with us about this? Okay, that's fine. Robes
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Speaker 1: you and I long time will you and I take
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Speaker 1: the same issue with this. It's open ended. You are
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Speaker 1: getting the option to say whatever you want right now
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Speaker 1: instead of answering a question I have for you.
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Speaker 2: Correct And so that is a choice, and that is
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Speaker 2: the decision to not make her feel defensive. So I'm
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Speaker 2: I'm still kind of okay with that, even maybe being
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Speaker 2: the opening.
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Speaker 3: But then you have to.
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Speaker 2: Have, I believe, as a journalist, follow what questions ready
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Speaker 2: that are direct and targeted when she doesn't give you
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Speaker 2: an answer, C and.
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Speaker 1: I and I think with only five minutes and that
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Speaker 1: clock ticking, we don't have time to dance around this.
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Speaker 1: We got to get right to the first question. Hi,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being here. Let's get this out of
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Speaker 1: the way.
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Speaker 3: Boom, did you do this?
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Speaker 1: It's kind of curiod and not being mean or attacking
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Speaker 1: the woman, but there's a way. This was almost a question, ropes,
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Speaker 1: is there anyone at this point in this country almost
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Speaker 1: more desired to be interviewed that anybody wants to interview
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Speaker 1: than her? And a lot of headlines, this was the opportunity.
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Speaker 1: You and I see this question a little differently, or
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Speaker 1: at least the motivations. I thought this has the writing
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Speaker 1: all over it of pr of being someone getting in
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Speaker 1: Gma and Lara's ear saying we cannot go hard on her.
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Speaker 3: Look she teed her up.
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Speaker 2: Lara teed up Taylor Frankie Paul to give her prepared statement,
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Speaker 2: that is what happened. That was not a journalism moment,
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Speaker 2: that was a prepared say this, and then Taylor can say.
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Speaker 1: That it was a company moment.
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Speaker 2: That is what happened, and that is unfortunate because I
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Speaker 2: actually think, and maybe call me crazy, because I agree
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Speaker 2: that this I'm sure was heavily lawyered. I bet you
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Speaker 2: the questions that Lara had, they said, stick exactly to this,
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Speaker 2: and it wasn't even really a question. She didn't what
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Speaker 2: do you want to share with us about this? That Again,
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Speaker 2: she looked.
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Speaker 1: Down, Rose, We've been in a plenty. That blue card
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Speaker 1: in her hand that was handed to her by a
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Speaker 1: producer has the person's name, your interviewe's name, their title,
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Speaker 1: and they're one, two, three, four questions written out that
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Speaker 1: you're supposed to ask. Obviously, we never use these. You
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Speaker 1: could take your own liberties. She was looking down, head
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Speaker 1: up and down and read every single word of that
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Speaker 1: first question.
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Speaker 3: She absolutely did, you are correct.
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Speaker 2: And the problem I look, call me I don't know
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Speaker 2: a purest, but I really actually think that did no
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Speaker 2: one any good. It didn't clear anything up. It made
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Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul look evasive, it made GMA look complicit,
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Speaker 2: and it didn't make anyone look good. I think the
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Speaker 2: best thing to have done, and the right thing to
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Speaker 2: have done, would to have been to ask the tough questions,
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Speaker 2: let Taylor Frankie Paul answer them. However she wants, she
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Speaker 2: can be evasive. But as a news organization, and certainly
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Speaker 2: because your parent company is the one who is putting
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Speaker 2: this show out, don't you even have more of a
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Speaker 2: responsibility to at least try to look like your being transparent.
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Speaker 1: That's where I'll take issue. Maybe there's so much money
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Speaker 1: on the line with this franchise and with this particular
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Speaker 1: season they have promoted, they have pushed, they have put
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Speaker 1: her everywhere they can. They are trying to salvage the
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Speaker 1: Bachelorette Season twenty two? Is it that swritheart? This is
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Speaker 1: what that question to me. I was a little shocked that, Wow,
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Speaker 1: they are doubling and tripling down. This is how it
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Speaker 1: felt or sounded like to me that Disney and ABC
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Speaker 1: are trying to salvage this thing, and we are going
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Speaker 1: to stand behind, even quietly if we have to a
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Speaker 1: woman who is right now being investigated for domestic.
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Speaker 2: Violence and has already admitted guilt to doing it three
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Speaker 2: years prior.
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Speaker 1: Even money.
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Speaker 3: Baby, that's shockming, It is shocking.
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Speaker 2: And look, I when we when as journalists, when you
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Speaker 2: I have been and I know you have to in
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Speaker 2: booking meetings with folks who are dealing with controversy, and
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Speaker 2: what you what I have said to those folks, and
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Speaker 2: what producers and other folks have said, let us ask
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Speaker 2: you the tough questions. It'll be better for you in
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Speaker 2: the end to know and at least have the viewing
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Speaker 2: audience understand that you sat there and answered tough, real
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Speaker 2: questions that everybody has that didn't occur here. And I
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Speaker 2: just think the viewing public is smarter than a lot
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Speaker 2: of executives. Get them credit for people see through that
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Speaker 2: pr attempt at salvaging I like the word you used,
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Speaker 2: salvaging Taylor, Frankie Paul and more importantly, salvaging the bachelorette
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Speaker 2: for Sunday.
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Speaker 1: She's innocent until proven guilty. Is that what we're doing? Course, Okay,
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Speaker 1: she's proven guilty. I don't know Robes this, I said,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about this earth. This steels so weird to me,
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Speaker 1: and this confirmed it all from me.
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Speaker 3: She didn't deny.
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Speaker 1: It, Robes. She had every opportunity. You know what, share
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Speaker 1: what you want. You also could say this is insane,
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Speaker 1: this crazy story. I don't know where this stuff is
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Speaker 1: coming from. This is wild. My heart isn't a difference.
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Speaker 1: She had an opportunity robes. See, folks, you see what
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Speaker 1: we're talking about. We haven't even gotten into her answer
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Speaker 1: because the answer didn't actually provide answers to the questions
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Speaker 1: that have been in those headlines.
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Speaker 2: You know, people go through media training, and clearly she
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Speaker 2: has because she's been using the same word in all
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Speaker 2: of her responses about it being heavy. This is a
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Speaker 2: heavy time. The headlines are heavy. Look, I wish that
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Speaker 2: someone could could give her the guidance to say something
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Speaker 2: more specific. This is deeply personal, This is deeply embarrassing,
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Speaker 2: and I want to work this out in where it belongs,
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Speaker 2: in court or at least through proper proceedings. But this
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Speaker 2: is not something I'm proud of being a part of. Like,
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Speaker 2: just at least give some acknowledgement that she just completely
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Speaker 2: evaded and skipped over everything, including her even acting as
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Speaker 2: if she didn't realize or had just found out she
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Speaker 2: was an executive producer on.
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Speaker 3: The show What That?
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Speaker 2: And she said that right after she said I'm known
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Speaker 2: for telling my truth, and she kept saying I'm not
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Speaker 2: gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. Honestly, she it was
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Speaker 2: interesting all the time she used these phrases that to
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Speaker 2: me pointed to the fact that she wasn't being fully honest.
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Speaker 1: However, this is working, apparently because overwhelmingly all the headlines today,
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Speaker 1: right yesterday, the day before was about domestic violence investigation.
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Speaker 1: It was all about the X. Today it's heavy. She's
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Speaker 1: hurting Taylor. Frankie Paul says, she's in pain and.
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Speaker 3: She feels like it's the end of the world.
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Speaker 1: Yes, they are very sympathetic headlines. I am still floored.
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Speaker 1: I would love to hear the answer from someone. It
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Speaker 1: hasn't made sense to me yet the type of crime
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, baby that I don't know why this
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Speaker 1: is a being it's nothing. I guess it's because it's
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Speaker 1: a woman and we should not take it as seriously.
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Speaker 1: If a woman is accused of hitting a man, I
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Speaker 1: guess because Robes, this is nothing to talk about. If
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Speaker 1: this was a man allegedly hit a woman. Few days
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Speaker 1: before the release of.
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Speaker 2: The Bachelor, where she's looking to be in a room relationship,
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Speaker 2: that Disney, ABC and Hulu are providing a pool of
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Speaker 2: men for her to date, and they're still okay with
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Speaker 2: putting the show on the air.
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Speaker 3: Given the allegations and her past history.
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Speaker 1: You've got to help me then, babe, as an exect,
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Speaker 1: what am I missing about this story that they would
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Speaker 1: be comfortable and it's okay, An, it's just an accusation.
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Speaker 1: Can you say that? Do you buy that? Well? The
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Speaker 1: public buy that, say Look, it's just an accusation. So
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Speaker 1: why shouldn't she go forward with the show? Why shouldn't
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Speaker 1: they support her her? It's just an allegation. Seriously, what
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Speaker 1: else can you If it's not about money, then, babe,
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Speaker 1: what you gotta.
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Speaker 3: Money is about me? It's about money.
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Speaker 1: Enough so that a domestic violence allegation is not enough
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Speaker 1: for us to step away.
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Speaker 3: Apparently it isn't I am at this point, let's okay.
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Speaker 1: Give the verbatim. The question here was from Lara Sentel saying,
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Speaker 1: what do you want to share with us? And this
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Speaker 1: was a word for word the answer that Frankie take.
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Speaker 2: Time, Taylor, Frankie Paul, Taylor, Frankie Paul said this, Honestly,
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Speaker 2: it's been a heavy time. I see the headlines, especially
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Speaker 2: during this time of The Bachelorette being released, and it's
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Speaker 2: supposed to be a really exciting time. I'm a person
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Speaker 2: that will always speak my truth. It's what I'm known for.
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Speaker 2: And so when the time is right, I will be.
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Speaker 2: But right now just trying to be in the present
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Speaker 2: moment and focus on things. But the thing is, my
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Speaker 2: kids do come first. My kids come first. And so
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Speaker 2: it's been like just a back and forth process, trying
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Speaker 2: to be in the present moment, worrying about headlines. It's
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Speaker 2: been stressful, to be honest, and look, she went straight
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Speaker 2: for this is so hard for me and then went
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Speaker 2: straight to my kids come first. And I just for me,
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Speaker 2: that just does not ring true because she's not acknowledging
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Speaker 2: the allegations. And if for kids really did come first,
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Speaker 2: how does she explain what this is all about.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to take that away from her. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure she feels that her kids come first. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to get in her head like that and do
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Speaker 1: that kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: I think she's using it as a shield though.
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Speaker 1: Right now, and again, I am trying to We've seen
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Speaker 1: this million times. It's hard to suggest or see anything
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Speaker 1: other than what you're saying. Because this is a p
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Speaker 1: I am blown. I I guess I'm supposed to understand.
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't be surprised. I am in rome. Maybe I
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Speaker 1: need to back it off. And we need to back
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Speaker 1: it off. And maybe it's a little too personal for us,
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Speaker 1: but this place wouldn't have a conversation with us based
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Speaker 1: on something that wasn't true that the public was saying
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Speaker 1: about us. It wasn't true, and enough people were saying
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Speaker 1: it and laughing about her, and it was talked about
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Speaker 1: on Twitter that they would not stand by morally.
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Speaker 3: Us and it wasn't even criminal.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't even get forget that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, maybe it is personal for us. Why wouldn't
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Speaker 3: it be.
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Speaker 2: Why shouldn't it be, But why shouldn't we be able
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Speaker 2: to say, oh, in this case, it's okay, but in
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Speaker 2: that case, like.
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Speaker 1: It's I am trying. But that's the thing, bait. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to do that thing. So I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: check myself in this moment and not just say well
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Speaker 1: this does so, why you do this? That's not it.
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Speaker 1: I am honestly trying to understand why somebody who has
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Speaker 1: a domestic violence conviction and is accused of another domestic
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Speaker 1: violence incident is.
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Speaker 2: Being embraced, supported, put allowed to explain.
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Speaker 1: Pedestal complicit was the right word. They are helping her along,
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Speaker 1: only I guess to get the Sunday Robes, And to
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Speaker 1: think that Disney is sitting down with someone who's dealing
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Speaker 1: with this accusation saying, let's move forward, let's go rogues.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand that if somebody looks at me say TJ,
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Speaker 1: it's just about money, then okay, I would actually we'll
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Speaker 1: say okay, fine.
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Speaker 3: But they're never gonna admit that.
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Speaker 1: But otherwise, babe, how do you make sense of that?
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Speaker 3: You can't.
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Speaker 1: A Disney exact needs to say, yes, we're aware of
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Speaker 1: these allegations right now, we're gonna let that play out,
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Speaker 1: but we're.
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Speaker 3: Moving Say something to me, say something, all right.
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Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only answer she gave. Stay here,
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Speaker 1: we'll tell you what her answer was. To the other
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Speaker 1: headline about the Mormon Wives shutting down production right now.
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Speaker 1: Her answer was, continuing now here on this that's kind
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Speaker 1: of an unexpected robes. This is this is two Frankie Taylor, Paul.
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Speaker 1: Frankie Paul Taylor, Franky Paul.
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Speaker 2: It's like I can't say the secret lives of Mormon wives,
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Speaker 2: and you can't say Taylor Frankie Paul. Between the two
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Speaker 2: of us, we get it all mixed up.
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Speaker 1: Frankie Grande is He's always my go to Frankie. Frankie Grande.
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Speaker 3: I don't know why any Taylor, Frankie Paul.
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Speaker 1: Miss Paul. Of course, I did an interview this morning.
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Speaker 1: We've just been talking about the other question she was
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Speaker 1: asked for robes. The other major thing was about season five.
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Speaker 1: Season four just dropped of Mormon Wive. Season five is
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Speaker 1: being shot. Production has been shut down. This seems ropes
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Speaker 1: to have been confirmed, but once she was asked about it,
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Speaker 1: she seemed not to know what's going on.
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Speaker 2: Well, okay, yes, can I also just say that I
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Speaker 2: took I took issue because for Lara to ask if
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Speaker 2: she could confirm whether or not Secret Lives had actually
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Speaker 2: been shut down or temporarily halted.
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Speaker 3: How would ABC not already have that information.
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Speaker 2: Disney is the parent company of WHO, so obviously you
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Speaker 2: could have just asked a question based on that known
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Speaker 2: situation that yes, production has been halted, filming has been stopped.
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Speaker 2: So she asks if it's true if the production has
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Speaker 2: been shut down, and this was Taylor's answer, Honestly, I
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Speaker 2: don't call the shots with productions. So as of now,
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Speaker 2: I have gotten word that it also has been paused.
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Speaker 3: But I do not call those shots.
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Speaker 2: And as far as I know, it was, but I
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Speaker 2: don't know for how long and why. And to Lara's credit,
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Speaker 2: she did say aren't you an executive producer on the show?
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Speaker 2: And then she acted like she didn't know. She just
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Speaker 2: found that out. She didn't even know what that meant.
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Speaker 2: It means more money, and it means you do have
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Speaker 2: some creative control.
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Speaker 1: Yes, And who do we talk to recently on the
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Speaker 1: from the show. They were all fighting to get executive
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Speaker 1: producer credits.
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Speaker 3: It's a thing, and she obviously had to have known
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Speaker 3: about it. That felt very disingenuous.
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Speaker 1: It's me of this matter. If we get to Sunday
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Speaker 1: and the ratings are through the roof or just fine
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Speaker 1: or just a little better than the last premiere, this
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Speaker 1: aems this matter. All this is going to go away.
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Speaker 1: Nobody cares.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to go away if the
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Speaker 2: police go forward in their investigation. From what I understand,
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Speaker 2: from what I've read, the police have now given this
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Speaker 2: to the District Attorney's office, to the prosecutor. So if
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Speaker 2: they are looking at the evidence and they are going
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Speaker 2: to decide whether or not to go forward with charges.
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Speaker 2: If police choose not to move forward with charges.
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Speaker 3: Who knows what's.
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Speaker 2: Going on behind the scene, Then you're right.
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Speaker 3: They might be able to get away with this and
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Speaker 3: no one will say another word.
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Speaker 1: But if she's not charged, she's in the clear. All good?
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Speaker 1: Is that correct?
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Speaker 3: I would say, so you.
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Speaker 1: Have how you feeling about watching the show now?
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Speaker 2: I feel a little icky about it now. And we
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Speaker 2: talked about this in the previous podcast. I say, if
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Speaker 2: there are no criminal charges, she should be in the
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Speaker 2: clear and they should all hope, they can all hope
19:38
Speaker 2: that this just goes away. But if it's true that
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Speaker 2: her ex has videos or audio and that gets out,
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Speaker 2: it's a whole other ballgame. Everything changes if that comes out.
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Speaker 1: They've asked her that question, right, They've asked her. Disney's
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Speaker 1: asked her is there any possible video out there? And
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Speaker 1: if there is, what is it of?
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Speaker 3: Can say? Is I don't know, I didn't take a video.
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Speaker 1: If she says to them that well she has, what
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Speaker 1: is the question? The question had to have been asked Robes.
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Speaker 1: They are all the stuff is out there and they
20:12
Speaker 1: are full steam ahead. She did a promotional appearance today
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Speaker 1: on Good Morning Freaking.
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Speaker 3: America, and she was very nervous and very uncomfortable.
20:20
Speaker 1: And she was introduced, here is our new bachelorette, full
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Speaker 1: steam ahead, like none of this even happens.
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Speaker 3: So will you watch on Sunday?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I'm not a big bat, you know, not
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Speaker 1: a big bachelor, a Bachelor fan. I watched Rachel Lindsay's
20:38
Speaker 1: entire episode, entire season. There was another one that I
20:40
Speaker 1: got drawn into because the GMA once, but it's just
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Speaker 1: not my lane, it's not my thing. It's fine, next
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Speaker 1: set up. This feels it just feels that way, and
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Speaker 1: that's me. That's personal. That's my call. Everybody else still
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Speaker 1: fans of hers and love her. I'm still a fan
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Speaker 1: of hers. We did spend some time with her, we
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Speaker 1: don't know her that well, but we wal away from
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Speaker 1: her not thinking she was a bad person.
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Speaker 2: Look, good people have bad moments, so it's not as
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Speaker 2: if this is this. You know, you're not your worst
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Speaker 2: moment or your worst moments. Yes, but I still think,
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Speaker 2: given the role she's taking in the network on this show,
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Speaker 2: I think that the viewing public who wants to be
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Speaker 2: invested in her relationship journey needs to actually understand what
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Speaker 2: happened or didn't happen.
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Speaker 3: With her ex you.
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Speaker 1: Know what you put it. That was a cool way
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Speaker 1: to put it. You want us to be invested in her.
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Speaker 1: We need to know what we're investing in, and we
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Speaker 1: don't know that yet. And the problem is Robed. It
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Speaker 1: seems like they don't want to tell us, or they
21:44
Speaker 1: don't want us to know, or they're hoping we'll forget
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Speaker 1: about it, or they're saying is not that important.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, one of the above.
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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, folks, we'll see on Sunday, Hobesiam.
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Speaker 3: I'll be watching. Okay, I'll let you know what happens.
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Speaker 1: It's Sunday.
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Speaker 3: It's Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, stip basketball marsh madness.
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Speaker 3: Cool, we got more than one tea.
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Speaker 1: Oh this works out perfectly actually, all right, folks, we
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Speaker 1: always appreciate you spending some time with us on TJ.
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Speaker 1: Holmes on behalf of my dear Emmy Robock over here.
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Speaker 1: We will talk to y'all soon