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Did Saints GM Mickey Loomis Set Stage For A Derek Carr Divorce? · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: Orleans Saints embark on this new era of Saints football,
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  Speaker 1: every day and every step there's a new development, so
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  Speaker 1: we're of course going to follow it as we go along.
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  Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis met with reporters on Monday, first time since
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  Speaker 1: his season rap press conference. And actually that was Darren Rizzy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the day after the season ended on that
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  Speaker 1: Black Monday. But Mickey Loomis met with reporters on Monday
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  Speaker 1: and a lengthy press conference where they covered a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ground. And I believe in this offseason, obviously the
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  Speaker 1: most important thing you're going to do is hire a coach.
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  Speaker 1: Who is your new head coach. That's going to be
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  Speaker 1: number one. If there is a one A or A
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  Speaker 1: one B or a very close number two. It's you
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  Speaker 1: got to make a decision on Derek Carr and what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen there? Can you play number twenty please?
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  Speaker 1: Here us a little back and forth about Derek Carr's contract,
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  Speaker 1: which we talked about last week. He wouldn't take a
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  Speaker 1: take different approach, but he had a fifty one million.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars Habet, there's already comfortable going into the season with him, saying,
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  Speaker 2: I think all that needs to be you know, has
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  Speaker 2: yet to be determined.
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  Speaker 1: So not willing to really determine what they're going to
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  Speaker 1: do with Derek Carr's contract. I think that very short
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  Speaker 1: answer speaks volumes because the fact that the door is
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  Speaker 1: at least even open to moving on from Derek Carr
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  Speaker 1: tells you they are considering moving on from Derek car
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if if they were put it.
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  Speaker 3: In another way.
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  Speaker 1: You look around the league, there are certain quarterback situations
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  Speaker 1: that are unmistakable, like you know who the starting quarterback is.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't a debate. There are questions like Minnesota's got
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  Speaker 1: a question, what do you do with Sam Darnold? I
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  Speaker 1: mean you drafted JJ McCarthy was injured, you play Donald
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  Speaker 1: Donald leeds you to fourteen wins.
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  Speaker 3: What do you do? It's a big question.
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  Speaker 1: There's no question in Washington, there's no question in really
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  Speaker 1: in Carolina anymore with Bryce Young, like there's no question
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  Speaker 1: in spots around the league. Now, obviously there's no question
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  Speaker 1: in Kansas City or Buffalo and Cincinnati. We understand those.
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  Speaker 1: So I have the best quarterbacks in the NFL. But
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't pound the table and declaratively
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  Speaker 1: say Derek Carr is our quarterback tells you they realize
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  Speaker 1: he may not be the quarterback next year, and a
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  Speaker 1: new k head coach may have a lot to say
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  Speaker 1: in that. That's something else. Mickey Loomis was asked about
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  Speaker 1: about having a new coaching staff have a say in
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I have, like I like to say, in quarterback direction.
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  Speaker 1: Now, maybe you so, and not saying maybe the staffing
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  Speaker 1: does a coach out with Queen Slay to Kyre whoever
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  Speaker 1: he wants.
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  Speaker 3: Is there anyone that you're saying has.
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  Speaker 2: To be part of that? No, No, I believe in
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  Speaker 2: the head coach determining his staff, and.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely believe in a head coach determining his staff. So
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like Mickey Loomis is going to give that
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  Speaker 1: new coach, whomever may be, autonomy to hire their staff
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  Speaker 1: and certainly look at who they want to be the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a massive decision which direction they go. H
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  Speaker 1: One more though, and this is thirteen, if we could.
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  Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis was asked just flatly his confidence level in
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I have a high level of confidence in Derek. You know, listen,
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  Speaker 2: he did some really good things here. He has done
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  Speaker 2: some really good things here. If he had qualified, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he did, I mean quarterback rating
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  Speaker 2: and be in the top ten. IS interception rating would
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  Speaker 2: be in the top ten. IS guards per temp would
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  Speaker 2: be in the top ten. Unders some really tough circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: When you don't have you your top two receivers and
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  Speaker 2: you don't have a special weapon in Taysom Hill, and
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  Speaker 2: we don't have the middle portion of our offensive line
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  Speaker 2: and we have a rookie left tackle, there's some tough
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  Speaker 2: circumstances for a quarterback to deal with. So I think
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  Speaker 2: he's done a lot of really good things.
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  Speaker 1: Those are tough circumstances, and a lot of more circumstances
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  Speaker 1: that you created. But the fact that despite all the
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  Speaker 1: superlatives that Lumas just lauded in Derek Carr, when you
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  Speaker 1: come back to it, and he was asked point blank
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  Speaker 1: about are you willing to carry a fifty one million
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  Speaker 1: dollar number for Derek Carr?
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  Speaker 3: And he said, well, I have made those decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Yet it tells you at least they are open to
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  Speaker 1: the possibility of moving on from Derek Carr. So I
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  Speaker 1: am moderately encouraged. He did not say Derek Carr is
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  Speaker 1: coming back. So I think it is largely going to
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  Speaker 1: depend on who the head coach is. You hire that
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  Speaker 1: head coach first, and then that head coach going to
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  Speaker 1: make the decision if he wants Derek Carr to be
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  Speaker 1: his starting quarterback. I mean, Mickey Luomas just laid that
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  Speaker 1: out for you. He believes in giving that coach autonomy
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  Speaker 1: to hire a staff, and certainly it's gonna be the
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  Speaker 1: same thing with who the quarterback is. And I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: repeat today the same thing I've said about Derek Carr
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  Speaker 1: all along, great guy, seems like a very good human being, man, husband, father, teammate,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff, all those things that are way more
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  Speaker 1: important in life. But we also know what Derek Carr
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  Speaker 1: is as a starting quarterback in the NFL. In eleven
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  Speaker 1: seasons now, as a starting quarterback, he has had a
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  Speaker 1: winning record three times, and one of those was the
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  Speaker 1: nine to eight season in New Orleans last year when
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  Speaker 1: they went on the winning streak at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the season when they were already out of everything, and
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  Speaker 1: they beat up on the bottom feeders in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: In eleven seasons as a starting quarterback, chew playoff appearances
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  Speaker 1: in eleven seasons as a starting quarterback, he is the
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  Speaker 1: first quarterback in the history of the NFL to lose
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  Speaker 1: to one teams in twenty twenty three in New Orleans,
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  Speaker 1: he was nine and eight and twenty twenty four in
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans. Fight all the good things that Mickey Lumas
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  Speaker 1: just said. The Saints were five and five with Derek
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  Speaker 1: carrs the quarterback. He is the thing that I have
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  Speaker 1: said he is since literally the day they signed him.
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  Speaker 1: He is a mid quarterback. He is a lower mid tier,
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  Speaker 1: upper bottom tier quarterback in the NFL. You want to
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  Speaker 1: bring Derek Carr back, cool, You're gonna go eight nine,
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  Speaker 1: nine and eight, seven and ten you're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: bad enough to draft at the top and get your
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  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. But you're never gonna be good enough to
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  Speaker 1: win the division, make the playoffs, to compete for a championship.
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  Speaker 3: So what do you want to be?
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  Speaker 1: You want to be a middling team with Derek Carr
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  Speaker 1: is your quarterback, who's gonna do all the things Loomas said, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna throw for a lot of yards because he
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  Speaker 1: that's what he is. We are dain him here. He
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  Speaker 1: is the emperor of empty yards. We are dained him here,
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  Speaker 1: the emperor of yard. I mean, I'm not surprised that
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  Speaker 1: he throws for a lot of yards. To what he does,
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  Speaker 1: You get down and then he's chucking the ball around.
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  Speaker 1: What he doesn't do is win games. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: just going to sit here and throw out mandates that
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  Speaker 1: you cut a guy without a solution. I've told you
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  Speaker 1: what my solution is, and you've seen other franchises do this.
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  Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles made a very tough decision on Carson Wentz.
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  Speaker 1: They gave Carson Wentz a massive contract, Nick Foles won
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, Wentz couldn't live up to it, and
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  Speaker 1: ultimately they moved on. They ate a thirty three point
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  Speaker 1: eight million dollar dead number Philadelphia did They said, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, we recognize this guy isn't going to get
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  Speaker 1: us where we want to go. So they ate the number,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what it netted them, Jalen Hurts and
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  Speaker 1: they're franchise right now. Could I mean the two seed
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  Speaker 1: in the NFC. They're in the division run of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: might be going back to a super Bowl. The Denver
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  Speaker 1: Broncos a fifty three million dollar dead number on Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: You know what it netted them, Bonnicks and they were
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs this year with Bonex as a rookie.
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  Speaker 1: It is not easy, especially as a leader, to acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: your shortcomings, to acknowledge your misses. But the New Orleans
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  Speaker 1: Saints missed. They waste They wasted one hundred million dollars
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  Speaker 1: of Gale Benz's money by signing Derek Carr one hundred
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  Speaker 1: million on that contract was guaranteed. They have wasted that
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  Speaker 1: money they missed. So it's the old sunk costs fallacy.
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  Speaker 1: Are you gonna keep sticking with Derek Carr while you
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  Speaker 1: continue to regress as an organization? Or are you gonna
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge your mistake, cut ties, and start building toward what
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  Speaker 1: your future will be. That's my preference. Be done with
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr, play Spencer Rattler this year. Go get a
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  Speaker 1: cheap veteran somewhere on the market. I'm talking the Jacobie
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  Speaker 1: Brissette market here, the guy that's never going to be
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  Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback anywhere but has started. So you get
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  Speaker 1: somebody with some experience. Twenty twenty five is going to
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  Speaker 1: be miserable again, but it's going to put you in
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  Speaker 1: a position next year at this time to draft your
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  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: That's my preference.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I would like to see happen, and maybe,
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  Speaker 1: just maybe maybe Mickey Loomis is starting to see that.
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  Speaker 1: It is if you want the pie in the sky scenario,
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  Speaker 1: it is what Cincinnati did. They hired Zach Taylor, they
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  Speaker 1: were in a terrible situation, they bought himed out, They
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  Speaker 1: drafted Joe Burrow, won four games in Burrow's first year.
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  Speaker 3: Next year they're in a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: With the acknowledgment and understanding for whatever coach is coming
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  Speaker 1: in that they are coming into a full on rebuild,
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  Speaker 1: and you are committed to that you can have success.
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  Speaker 1: There are their roadmaps all over the NFL to show
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  Speaker 1: you how. That's why we always say it's a copycat league.
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  Speaker 1: Their roadmaps to success all over the NFL. Pick one
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  Speaker 1: that's worked and walk down that path. In that path,
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  Speaker 1: by the way back to a championship does not include
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr, and I really don't.
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  Speaker 3: Think it should include MICKEYL. Loomis either,