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#328 - Joe Rogan, Tim Dillon & the Book of Enoch: Why was it Left out of the Bible? · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon got into the Book of Enoch, discussed it on the podcast
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  they did this week, and it was pretty enlightening and pretty exciting to hear
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  these guys getting into it because it raises a lot of questions.
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  I don't know about you. For me, it does. I want to know what happened. Why was it excluded?
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  But you might be, this is a notable exception. Despite its universal rejection
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  by Jewish authorities and mainstream Christian denominations,
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  It was preserved in its entirety by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church,
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  which still includes it in the official biblical canon.
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  All right. But we're going to take a look at Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon discussing this.
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  Is in the same Dead Sea Scrolls as they found the book of Isaiah.
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  Totally. The same collection of these religious texts.
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  And it's all about how the Watchers came down and mated with the daughters of
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  man and chose them as wives and then created this race of beings called the
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  Nephilim, which were giants that ruled the earth.
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  In the Bible, they talk about the Nephilim. In the Bible, they talk about Enoch.
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  Like, he's referenced in the Bible.
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  But the book of Enoch, the stories that are in the book of Enoch,
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  are fucking bananas. Like, completely bananas.
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  And the only reason why it's not in the Bible, a bunch of rabbis decided that
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  it didn't align with the Torah. The Torah, the Talmud, I forget which one.
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  But they decided, like, this contradicts some of the stories that are in other religious texts.
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  So we're going to keep that one out. Interesting.
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  It was a collection of these things that's all together. Who were these rabbis? Exactly.
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  Just that itself. So I've heard a lot of different reasons why it's excluded.
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  I'd also heard that because there was a very strong depiction of this son of
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  man, this figure in the future who would come. And it almost exactly represents, it looks like Jesus.
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  So maybe that was also taken into account that why it wasn't included.
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  But here's some primary reasons why it was excluded. A lack of original Hebrew
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  canonization. The ancient Jewish community and later rabbis did not accept it
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  as inspired scripture, so it was never included in the Hebrew Bible.
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  It was also not part of the Septuagint.
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  The Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures used in Jesus' time.
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  I don't even know how to say that word. I feel like Evan Almighty.
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  Pseudepigraphal authorship. They don't think it's the same author.
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  It probably wasn't Enoch. I mean, when we're thinking Enoch,
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  the actual Enoch, that's before Noah.
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  That's before the flood in this world. So...
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  It's very rare that it, but could there have been a tradition that was passed
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  down and it was kind of kept together?
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  And because the authors of even the New Testament, they reference,
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  they like quote from the book of Enoch and they allude to it very strongly because
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  we can't get away from this event is even
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  talked about in the actual Bible in Genesis.
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  With right before Noah's flood, that the sons of God come and mate with the
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  daughters of men. And they produced the, it says that the Nephilim were around in those days.
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  So there was some type of event that actually happened. I do think that it was
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  actual disobedient sons of God, which we think of as angels,
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  that they did mate with actual women, you know, and produce this offspring.
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  And that was why God brought the judgment of the flood. and so
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  and even in the new testament it's talked about the new testament authors bring
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  it up and they allude to it they talk about the angels that left their proper abode
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  and so they are kept in chains of darkness you know held to that great day and
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  i i think that even when we talk about demons i do i no longer just see them as just fallen angels
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  i do see them as kind of the disembodied spirits of the nephilim like remaining
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  because they're not fully man they're not fully angel.
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  They don't really have a place to go. So they just kind of, since the time of
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  the flood, they're still wandering here. And then they kind of embody people.
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  That's what is happening of demons, what we think of as demons.
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  But it's certainly an interesting way of thinking about it.
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  A lot of people, when they come into the faith, they're not ready for this.
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  But once you actually get entrenched in the Bible, it's even there.
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  So it's not even just in the book of Enoch. The book of Enoch just blows it
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  all open. All right, we'll leave it at that. Let me know what you all think.
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  And I hope you all have a great Friday and great rest of your weekend. See y'all.