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Mega Edition: Even After Jeffrey Epstein's Arrest His Time And Money Were Still In Demand (7/29/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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Speaker 1: When we talk about Jeffrey Epstein being a patron of
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Speaker 1: science and being somebody who donated to a lot of
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Speaker 1: these universities, we have to talk about Harvard now. Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Epstein donated a ton of money to the genetics research
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Speaker 1: department over at Harvard. And because he was such a
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Speaker 1: big donor, all of the people who he was associating
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Speaker 1: with and all of the people he was donating to,
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Speaker 1: they all knew that he was a sex offender. Yet
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Speaker 1: they continued to take his money, they continued to meet
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Speaker 1: with them, and they continue to accept his hospitality. Then
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Speaker 1: when called out on it, all of them had the
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Speaker 1: same excuse, right, the same denials. Oh, we had no
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Speaker 1: idea what he was. All we were doing was trying
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Speaker 1: to get donations for our department. Well, here's the reality.
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Speaker 1: There's other people out there where you could have gotten
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Speaker 1: those donations. All of you people chose to have a
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Speaker 1: relationship with this dude, even after he was a convicted
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Speaker 1: sex offender. So you have no one to blame but yourself.
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Speaker 1: When you find yourself the target in one of these
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Speaker 1: episodes or one of these articles, here's an idea. Don't
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Speaker 1: hang out with people like Jeffrey Epstein if you don't
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Speaker 1: want to deal with the blowback. Today's article is from
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Speaker 1: NBC News and the headline Harvard science professors kept meeting
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Speaker 1: with donor Jeffrey Epstein despite his offender's status. This article
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Speaker 1: was originally posted on July twelfth of twenty nineteen. The
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Speaker 1: author of this article is Laura Strickler. Disgraced Hedge fund
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Speaker 1: manager Jeffrey Epstein was attending on campus meetings as recently
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Speaker 1: as twenty fourteen with professors at Harvard University, a school
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Speaker 1: he's supported with at least one multimillion dollar donation, even
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Speaker 1: though the registered sex offenders ties to the school had
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Speaker 1: already raised quest You see, that's what it's all about
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Speaker 1: for these people. It's all about the money, right, How
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Speaker 1: can you help me move my project forward? What everybody
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Speaker 1: seemed to forget throughout this whole entire escapade was all
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Speaker 1: of the survivors that were left in the wake here.
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Speaker 1: What do you think they thought when they would look
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Speaker 1: at the news and see that these donations were being made,
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Speaker 1: or that Jeffrey Epstein was at this campus or that campus.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that that made them feel good, or
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Speaker 1: that they can come forward and rat this dude out
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Speaker 1: without any sort of blowback. Of course, not so. It
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Speaker 1: all played a part in enabling this dude's abuse. For
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Speaker 1: all of these years. Epstein, who donated six and a
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Speaker 1: half million dollars the Harvard's Program for Evolutionary Dynamics in
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Speaker 1: two thousand and three, had phone calls, meetings, and meals
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Speaker 1: with members of the Harvard faculty at least six times
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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, according to the online personal calendar of
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Speaker 1: doctor George Church, a renowned meist who holds professorships at Harvard,
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Speaker 1: Harvard Medical School and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Now
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Speaker 1: we're talking about some serious science, right, Geneticists were going
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Speaker 1: in there, and we're talking about gene therapy, changing genes out,
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Speaker 1: transhumanism and all the rest of the weird shit that
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Speaker 1: these people are into. Now, look, I'm not saying there's
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Speaker 1: no place for it and science there most certainly is.
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Speaker 1: But I have some concerns when Jeffrey Epstein is so
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Speaker 1: interested in it, What was he trying to do? Why
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Speaker 1: was he so interested in this portion of science, and
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Speaker 1: what was he doing with information he might have been
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Speaker 1: learning about these projects. On April twenty second, Epstein met
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Speaker 1: with Church at the Harvard Medical Schools Genetics Department building.
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Speaker 1: According to the calendar, The two had a phone call
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Speaker 1: the next day. He had lunch with Church on June
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Speaker 1: twenty first, According to the calendar. The entry for the
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Speaker 1: note also includes the notation Martin Nowak's Institute. So all
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Speaker 1: of these people are people we have talked about several
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Speaker 1: several times already here on the podcast, and as we
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Speaker 1: continue to make our way through some of the older,
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Speaker 1: more important stories here, this one was certainly at the
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Speaker 1: top of the pile because it just shows you how
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Speaker 1: deep the rot went. It wasn't just business leaders, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't just politicians, It was all of these scientists as well.
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Speaker 1: So for me, being so cynical, I asked myself, why
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Speaker 1: would he surround himself with all of these scientists. What
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Speaker 1: was he hoping to gain? And what was he doing
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Speaker 1: with the information that he was learning from these scientists.
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Speaker 1: Was he just sitting on it or was he preparing
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Speaker 1: it and selling it off to the highest bidder? Because
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Speaker 1: we know he had no loyalties, wasn't it wasn't like
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Speaker 1: he was loyal to America or anyone but himself. So
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Speaker 1: he would sell whatever he had, is my guest, to
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Speaker 1: the highest bidder. And what other reason would you be
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Speaker 1: collecting all of this, compromount all of this information if
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Speaker 1: it wasn't to sell it at some point or to
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Speaker 1: use it against the people who you collected it from.
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Speaker 1: So Epstein was on some other shit. And my question
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Speaker 1: has always been with these scientists, what else was going on?
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Speaker 1: On April twenty second, Epstein met with Church at the
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Speaker 1: Harvard Medical School's Genetic Department building. According to the calendar,
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Speaker 1: The two had a phone call the next day. He
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Speaker 1: had lunch with Church on June twenty first, according to
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Speaker 1: the calendar. The entry for the note also includes the
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Speaker 1: notation Martin Noak's institute. Noak, a Harvard professor of biology
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Speaker 1: and Mathematics, is the director of the Program for Evolutionary Dynamics,
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Speaker 1: the project to which Epstein donated. So again, you can't
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Speaker 1: get away from that. If you're a George Church and
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Speaker 1: you're the Harvard Evolutionary Dynamics program, how are you going
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Speaker 1: to get away from this? Well, all you can do
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Speaker 1: is try to avoid it and act like it didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: And of course they'll say, well, we had no idea
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Speaker 1: what Epsie was, and that's the defense. But it falls
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Speaker 1: on deaf ears, especially considering this was happening after his
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Speaker 1: first arrest. The program, which Novak runs from an office
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Speaker 1: suite at one Brattle Square in Cambridge, Massachusetts, applies math
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Speaker 1: to genetics to seek cures for cancer and other diseases.
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Speaker 1: Epstein has represented himself as a co founder of the program.
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Speaker 1: So look, these are their own words. They're associating with him.
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Speaker 1: He's calling himself the co founder of the program. Nobody
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Speaker 1: steps in to stop them, not till there was a
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Speaker 1: bunch of fury over their relationship with them. So how
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Speaker 1: can anyone look at these dudes and be like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know what. You guys were on your game. You
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Speaker 1: just got bamboozled by this guy. Jeffrey Epstein a great
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Speaker 1: con man. He conjur dudes. That's not the case. They
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Speaker 1: all knew, at the very least they should have known.
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Speaker 1: He was a sex offender, somebody that was busted for
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Speaker 1: quote unquote soliciting an underage girl for prostitution, meaning child abuse.
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Speaker 1: On September twelfth, Epstein and Church had another phone call,
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Speaker 1: which was followed by a teleconference call October twenty first
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Speaker 1: between Epstein and Church that also included James Clement, an
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Speaker 1: independent biomedical researcher who specializes in longevity. So that's all
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Speaker 1: we need, right Epstein being able to live for one
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two hundred years, pass on that please.
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Speaker 1: On November thirtieth, the calendar lists a dinner with multiple attendies.
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Speaker 1: Dinner with Jeffrey Epstein, Joi Edo, Reid Hoffman, and Martin Noak,
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Speaker 1: eight pm, Martin Noak's Institute, one Brattle Square, Sweet six, Cambridge, Massachusetts.
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Speaker 1: The address matches the address for the Program for Evolutionary Dynamics.
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Speaker 1: So you have all the information you need here, the
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Speaker 1: ties that bind all these people together. The question is
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Speaker 1: who really cares? Obviously nobody, because these dudes are still
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Speaker 1: doing what they're doing. Edo is an entrepreneur and journalist.
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Speaker 1: Hoffman is a venture capitalist and the co founder of LinkedIn.
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Speaker 1: Church Itto, Noak and Clement did not respond to requests
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Speaker 1: for comment. Church did not respond to questions about who
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Speaker 1: else might have attended the meetings and whether Martin Noak's
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Speaker 1: institute refers to the Program of Evolutionary Dynamics. Hoffman declined
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Speaker 1: to comment. See, this is the thing, the problem that
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Speaker 1: I have. All of these declined to comments, declined to comments,
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Speaker 1: declined to comments. Why why not just come out and
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Speaker 1: say what's what? Look? I had no idea what was
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Speaker 1: going on? I was invited to this meeting, blah blah
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But when you say, oh,
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Speaker 1: I have no idea, nobody told me I didn't know
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Speaker 1: how to tie my shoes. I mean, do they really
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Speaker 1: expect us to believe this nonsense? All the meetings were
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Speaker 1: presumably related to genetics research. It is not known whether
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Speaker 1: any of the participants were aware of Epstein's status as
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Speaker 1: a registered sex offender. Oh what a likely excuse. Oh
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Speaker 1: we had no idea. Yeah, it wasn't all over the
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Speaker 1: news or anything. And again, the smartest people in the
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Speaker 1: room were talking about the most bright minds in the
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Speaker 1: whole entire world. Right, but they're too stupid to know
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Speaker 1: that they're breaking bread with a child molester. Come on,
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Speaker 1: that is a bridge a little too far. Epstein is
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Speaker 1: now facing separate federal sex trafficking charges in New York.
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Speaker 1: Lawyers for Epstein did not respond to request for comment.
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Speaker 1: Church's twenty fourteen calendar, which was attached to his personal website,
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Speaker 1: was temporarily removed from the Internet after ABC News made
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Speaker 1: inquiries to Harvard. It was then restored to the site,
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Speaker 1: but in a less prominent position. The calendar link on
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Speaker 1: the site now defaults to a current twenty nineteen schedule.
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Speaker 1: You see what they try and do. They always try
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Speaker 1: and hide this shit. They always try and you know, obfuscate,
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Speaker 1: and then they act like people are crazy when they
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Speaker 1: ask questions. But the proof is here. All you have
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Speaker 1: to do is go back and put the pieces together.
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Speaker 1: Take the time to do it. A Harvard official told
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Speaker 1: NBC News the university does not control whom faculty members
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Speaker 1: meet with or whom they talk to. In two thousand
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Speaker 1: and six, after the public learns of state and federal
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Speaker 1: investigations into Epstein's alleged sexual contacts with minors, a Harvard
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Speaker 1: spokesperson told a reporter for the campus newspaper that the
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Speaker 1: university would not be returning Epstein's six and a half
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Speaker 1: million dollar gift. Imagine the audacity of this place. As
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Speaker 1: much money as they're bringing in from students as it is,
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Speaker 1: they don't want to return the six and a half
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Speaker 1: million dollars. The Harvard Crimson article also noted that when
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Speaker 1: Epstein made his initial donation, he had agreed to consider
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Speaker 1: raising his total contribution to thirty million dollars after a
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Speaker 1: review of the program's progress. As of two thousand and six,
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Speaker 1: According to the Crimson article, the university said that review
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Speaker 1: had not occurred. Epstein touted his affiliation with Harvard long
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Speaker 1: after agreeing to federal and state plea deals, pleading guilty
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Speaker 1: to a single state charge, and registering as a sex
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Speaker 1: offender in two thousand and eight, so that right there
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Speaker 1: should preclude him from having any relationship with Harvard or
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Speaker 1: any other university. A bio published on the web in
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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen by Epstein's foundation said, mister Epstein is the
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Speaker 1: founder of the Program for Evolutionary Dynamics at Harvard University.
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Speaker 1: The program has developed critical mathematical models of how viruses
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Speaker 1: and cancer cells evolve. You know, what's the deal with
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Speaker 1: all of these billionaires thinking that they're virologists and doctors
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Speaker 1: and shit, here's an idea. Go work on your stupid
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Speaker 1: money programs and Bill Gates. You can go and work
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Speaker 1: on computer programs. Not everybody's a doctor, okay. In a
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Speaker 1: two thousand and three Vanity Fair article that referred to
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Speaker 1: Epstein the Epstein Program for Mathematical Biology and Evolutiontionary Dynamics
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Speaker 1: at Harvard. Epstein said he was reluctant to have his
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Speaker 1: name attached to the program, but Harvard President Larry Summers
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Speaker 1: persuaded him again, mister Summer's name. You see a trend
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Speaker 1: heariet the earlier article, this article. Yeah, we're going to
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Speaker 1: be talking a little bit more about mister Summers. A
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Speaker 1: Harvard source said the Program for Evolutionary Dynamics has never
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Speaker 1: borne Epstein's name. Yeah. Sure, he used his money, though, right.
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Speaker 1: Epstein's press releases have repeatedly referred to a thirty million
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Speaker 1: dollar gift he made the Harvard in two thousand. A
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Speaker 1: Harvard's source familiar with Epstein's donations was unaware of any
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Speaker 1: significant gift to Harvard other than his initial six and
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Speaker 1: a half million dollar donation in two thousand and three. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: as if six and a half millions just peanuts, right.
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Speaker 1: A Harvard spokesperson said the university does not comment on
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Speaker 1: specific gifts. Harvard declined comment in December twenty and eighteen,
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Speaker 1: when The Crimson asked again if the school would return
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Speaker 1: Epstein's money. Epstein, who has been photographed wearing Harvard gear,
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Speaker 1: did not attend the university. He attended Cooper Union and
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Speaker 1: New York University without graduating. See I won't hold that
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Speaker 1: against him. I don't think that you need to be
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Speaker 1: a college graduate to be a successful person. But what
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Speaker 1: I will say is this guy was fronting and flossing
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Speaker 1: so hard that it is almost laughable. He wanted to
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Speaker 1: be smart so bad that he was willing to pay
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Speaker 1: top dollar just to be associated with these people. And
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Speaker 1: then on the flip side of that, what else was
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Speaker 1: he doing with all of the information he was garnering
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Speaker 1: from them? See that for me has never been answered.
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Speaker 1: He wanted to collect scientists, but what was he collecting
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Speaker 1: them for? And still we don't have too many answers
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Speaker 1: as far as that goes. But there you have it again, folks,
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Speaker 1: just another example of how Jeffrey Epstein's stench permeates every
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Speaker 1: level of our society. If you'd like to contact me,
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Speaker 1: you can do that at Bobby Kapuci at protonmel dot com.
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Speaker 1: That's bo Bbuy capu Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You
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Speaker 1: u Cci. The link that I discussed can be found
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Speaker 1: in the description. Box Well stated in court recently that
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Speaker 1: she had not seen Jeffrey Epstein in over a decade. Well,
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Speaker 1: we know we have the emails that prove that statement false.
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Speaker 1: But now we also have an eyewitness who has come
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Speaker 1: forward and said that he saw Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine
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Speaker 1: Maxwell together at a restaurant in Palm Beach in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen. We all know that Gilaine Maxwell is
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Speaker 1: a liar, but what this does it adds more meat
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Speaker 1: to the bone, more context, and it goes to prove
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Speaker 1: once again again that nothing that comes out of this
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Speaker 1: lady's mouth can be believed. Our article tonight is from
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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail. The author of the article is Barry Averrich.
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Speaker 1: The headline I was sitting next to Bonnie and Clyde
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Speaker 1: of child abuse. Filmmaker tells how after spotting Epstein and
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Speaker 1: Gileay and Maxwell dining in Palm Beach, he began film.
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Speaker 1: He began a film about the pedophile until he was threatened,
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Speaker 1: And we know that that was an mo for Epstein
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Speaker 1: and company. They liked the threatened journalists. They like the
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Speaker 1: threatened filmmakers, and they wanted to make sure that they
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Speaker 1: were in control of whatever the narrative was at all times.
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Speaker 1: And if you are a filmmaker like mister Averriche here,
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Speaker 1: well you're not going to seed control to people like that,
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Speaker 1: especially if you're doing an explosive x bose on their behavior.
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Speaker 1: So of course Jeffrey Epstein would threaten him. It was
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Speaker 1: December twenty sixteen in Palm Beach, Florida. I was having
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Speaker 1: lunch with my family at an upscale restaurant tucked away
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Speaker 1: in one of the many alleys off the famed Worth
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Speaker 1: Avenue when Jeffrey Epstein and Glaine Maxwell were shown a
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Speaker 1: table that was far away from the usual Palm Beach
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Speaker 1: a listers, that's for sure. Look, Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: they were not sitting around just your run of the
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Speaker 1: mill a lister, of course not. They had to have
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Speaker 1: their own little section. They had to be sectioned off
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Speaker 1: in an area where they could talk in private, they
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Speaker 1: could discuss their disgusting deeds and that they could have
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Speaker 1: a little bit of privacy. So this is the kind
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Speaker 1: of thing that you see at restaurants a lot of times,
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Speaker 1: at high end restaurants. There'll be certain portions of the
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Speaker 1: restaurant that are dedicated to just housing people like Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell when they show up. Epstein did
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Speaker 1: not want to be noticed, nor did he acknowledge the
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Speaker 1: rich and powerful in the room. Yeah, well, he probably
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Speaker 1: had them all under his thumber. Ready. I had no
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Speaker 1: idea that I was sitting next to the alleged Bonnie
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Speaker 1: and Clyde of child abuse. It was nearly three years
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Speaker 1: before Epstein's death and eight years after he quietly pleaded
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Speaker 1: guilty to Florida state charges one of two of procuring
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Speaker 1: miners for the purposes of prostitution. This is a huge
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Speaker 1: failure and the black eye on the legacy media. They
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Speaker 1: did their job so piss poorly that a famous director
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Speaker 1: and filmmaker had no idea who Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine
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Speaker 1: Maxwell really were. You would think that the legacy media
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Speaker 1: that loves to tear people down would have been all
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Speaker 1: over this case, but they weren't. And then you look
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Speaker 1: around at the people that were hanging out with Epstein
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Speaker 1: and you start to understand why. Katie Kuric, George Stepanopolis,
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Speaker 1: Mike Wallace, you know, The list goes on of movers
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Speaker 1: and shakers in the world of the news, And these
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Speaker 1: are the people that we're supposed to trust to tell
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Speaker 1: us the truth. These are the people that we're supposed
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Speaker 1: to trust to bring us to a point where we
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Speaker 1: can kind of understand what's going on. Unfortunately, folks, we
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Speaker 1: can't trust them. And it has been proven over and
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Speaker 1: over again. And this right here is just another glaring
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Speaker 1: example of how the legacy media shit the bed. Surprisingly,
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Speaker 1: most convicted sex offenders in Florida are set to state prison,
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Speaker 1: yet Epstein negotiated a brief eighteen month sentence housed in
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Speaker 1: a private wing of the Palm Beach County Stockade. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's remember he only served thirteen months of that, and
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Speaker 1: most of it he was out running the streets abusing
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Speaker 1: other girls, acting like Jeffrey Epstein. It was like he
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Speaker 1: wasn't even being punished for what occurred. Not only was
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Speaker 1: it the shitty the non prosecution agreement, but it was
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Speaker 1: also the fact that this dude didn't even serve any
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Speaker 1: real time in jail. What he did was not time
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Speaker 1: in jail. Folks, might as well have been at a
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Speaker 1: halfway house somewhere. He was a billionaire pedophile with a
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Speaker 1: circle of high wattage friends, and yet his admission of
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Speaker 1: guilt to detestable crimes, including unlawful sex with minors and
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Speaker 1: sex abuse, received very little media attention and were largely
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Speaker 1: unknown to the general public. Again, I can't stress this enough.
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Speaker 1: The legacy media shit the bed. They were absolutely negligent
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Speaker 1: in their job. These girls went to the legacy media,
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Speaker 1: they reported what happened, and nobody, none of these journalists
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Speaker 1: could be bothered to dive in, well, not until a
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Speaker 1: Costa showed up, right, and then then it was game on.
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Speaker 1: Once they thought that they had an inn on one
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Speaker 1: of their political opponents, well it was a free feeding frenzy.
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Speaker 1: But what happened leading up to that point? Where was
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Speaker 1: the legacy media? Why weren't they doing their job? Why
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Speaker 1: weren't they making the general public aware of the sort
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Speaker 1: of scoundrel that was moving amongst us? A few tables
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Speaker 1: away at the popular Italian restaurant, a well known cnb
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Speaker 1: C eatery called Vice Restaurante, I was immediately intrigued by Epstein. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I could see I could see why, right, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I know that if I was a documentary filmmaker in
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and I saw Jeffrey Epstein at a restaurant,
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Speaker 1: I'd be interested in what was going on, and I
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Speaker 1: might even want to talk about doing a project, because
21:01
Speaker 1: sometimes that's where when you're a creative person and you
21:04
Speaker 1: work on creative projects, you get inspiration from all kinds
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Speaker 1: of crazy situations. So I would not be shocked if
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Speaker 1: somebody was having dinner with their family and they're a
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Speaker 1: creative film director and they see Epstein in Maxwell and
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Speaker 1: they decide, Hey, you know what, I'm gonna do something
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Speaker 1: about these two. I'm going to do a project involving
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Speaker 1: Epstein's criminal enterprise. Perhaps it's the documentarian in me. I
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Speaker 1: needed to know who he was. My wife kept telling
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Speaker 1: me not to stare. The waiters knew what to bring
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Speaker 1: him without him ordering, and his conversation was hushed in
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Speaker 1: an intimate way as he kept his head down. All right,
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Speaker 1: So that's pretty interesting, right If the restaurants, if they'll
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Speaker 1: excuse me, the waiters and waitresses knew exactly what to
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Speaker 1: bring him without even asking him. That means he was
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Speaker 1: a regular there all the time, and that some of
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Speaker 1: the employees there might know a thing or two about
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and who he was associating with while he
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Speaker 1: was eating, So it's certainly another avenue to explore. He
22:05
Speaker 1: was deeply tanned, casually dressed, and avoided the prerequisite Palm
22:10
Speaker 1: dress code of jungle chick or garish green or salmon
22:13
Speaker 1: colored pants, and he always dressed how he wanted right.
22:17
Speaker 1: He always had those stupid ass sweatpants on, those idiotic
22:20
Speaker 1: slippers with the stupid screws on them. He was just
22:24
Speaker 1: an absolute clown, in my opinion, one of these guys
22:28
Speaker 1: that thought he was way cooler than he was. On
22:34
Speaker 1: the way out of the restaurant, I pressed a twenty
22:36
Speaker 1: dollars bill in Francesco's hand, the white jacketed maitred d
22:39
Speaker 1: to get some information my kind of guy. That's very
22:42
Speaker 1: Italian of you there, mister average. That is exactly how
22:46
Speaker 1: you get information. A nice twenty folded up in your palm.
22:50
Speaker 1: You walk up, shake hands, then you start asking some questions.
22:56
Speaker 1: But I think that you probably should have put a
22:58
Speaker 1: C note in your hand. His response was a little
23:01
Speaker 1: ominous in his thick Italian accent. That's mister Epstein and
23:05
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. I wouldn't bother saying hello. And it's interesting
23:08
Speaker 1: again how the public thought of Gilaine Maxwell as Jeffrey
23:12
Speaker 1: Epstein's girlfriend. It was a great cover story for him.
23:17
Speaker 1: People thought he had this girlfriend. It was his cover story.
23:21
Speaker 1: And if he has this girlfriend, then well, oh, come on,
23:23
Speaker 1: this story is about him abusing people. Are absolutely untrue
23:26
Speaker 1: then right, because Gilain Maxwell would never allow it. I mean,
23:29
Speaker 1: this hoity toity British socialite. There's no way until people
23:34
Speaker 1: find out that she's just as bad as Epstein, that
23:37
Speaker 1: she's just as big of a monster. The minute I
23:41
Speaker 1: returned back to the hotel, I dug into the mysterious
23:44
Speaker 1: world of Jeffrey Epstein. I was astounded by what I
23:47
Speaker 1: uncovered and even more shocked on how he used his
23:50
Speaker 1: political connections and vast wealth to essentially get a slap
23:54
Speaker 1: on the wrist for rape and the sexual abuse of miners. Yeah.
23:58
Speaker 1: I had the same reaction when I started into this case.
24:01
Speaker 1: It is very eye opening when you have no idea
24:07
Speaker 1: that something like this is occurring and then it all
24:09
Speaker 1: drops into your lap. It was a lot to take in.
24:13
Speaker 1: There has been a lot to go over, and it
24:18
Speaker 1: is one of the most disgusting situations that I personally
24:23
Speaker 1: have ever dug into I don't even understand. Honestly, I
24:28
Speaker 1: truly don't understand how the people in the legacy media
24:31
Speaker 1: at all of these outlets, Fox, CNN, none of these
24:35
Speaker 1: places thought it was a good idea to start an
24:40
Speaker 1: investigative series into Jeffrey Epstein, Who Are You Protecting? I
24:47
Speaker 1: reached out to Vanity Fair writer Vicky Ward, who had
24:50
Speaker 1: previously interviewed Epstein, and she helped fill in the blanks
24:53
Speaker 1: for me on Epstein's notorious yet shielded reputation. And we
24:58
Speaker 1: all know how I feel about Vicky Ward here. Vicky
25:01
Speaker 1: Ward and Grayden Carter, they are very responsible in my opinion,
25:05
Speaker 1: for what occurred. They should have ran that story. They
25:09
Speaker 1: should not have been intimidated by Epstein. Instead, they sent
25:12
Speaker 1: out a puff piece when they knew the deal, when
25:15
Speaker 1: they had been contacted by survivors. Vicky Ward is not
25:19
Speaker 1: a reporter. She's a faker who so desperately wants to
25:23
Speaker 1: be part of polite society, not like us folks, like
25:30
Speaker 1: us people listening to this podcast, independent content creators, Oh,
25:33
Speaker 1: we don't want to be part of polite society. We
25:35
Speaker 1: want to burn it to the ground. If indeed it
25:41
Speaker 1: was Maxwell that Epstein was lunching with as I believe
25:44
Speaker 1: it was, that would prove to be quite revelatory. Her
25:48
Speaker 1: lawyers claimed in court that she had not been in
25:50
Speaker 1: contact with the disgraced financier Pedophile in over ten years.
25:55
Speaker 1: That was later disproved as unsealed documents exposed to continuing
25:59
Speaker 1: long email read between them, and that was the email
26:02
Speaker 1: that I referred to earlier. Look, there are a lot
26:07
Speaker 1: of ties that connect them throughout the years, even when
26:10
Speaker 1: she says they were not associating, And when we have
26:14
Speaker 1: this eyewitness coming forward like this, it is just a
26:18
Speaker 1: backbreaker for Maxwell and her whole entire narrative. If she's
26:22
Speaker 1: lying about this, what else is she lying about, folks?
26:29
Speaker 1: And in my experience researching partners in crime, their perversity
26:33
Speaker 1: and determination rarely dissipates. Yes, they were connected at the hip,
26:38
Speaker 1: they shared a brain. Basically, this wasn't a situation where
26:41
Speaker 1: Gilaine Maxwell was desperately trying to get out of the
26:44
Speaker 1: clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. That couldn't be further from the truth.
26:49
Speaker 1: She was a co boss here, folks. I don't think
26:52
Speaker 1: people are understanding that in the legacy media. Yet she
26:55
Speaker 1: wasn't just a two bit player or a madam or
26:57
Speaker 1: some pimp. She was a co creator of what was occurring.
27:05
Speaker 1: But what would happen next would shake me to the core.
27:11
Speaker 1: The house was I had my wife drive me to
27:14
Speaker 1: Epstein's house on three point fifty eight Elbrio Way and
27:18
Speaker 1: Palm Beach in the hopes of getting a closer look.
27:21
Speaker 1: The house was carefully set back behind enormous shrubbery and
27:24
Speaker 1: a huge steel fence that prevented any way to look in.
27:28
Speaker 1: And again, I totally understand his desire to go and
27:31
Speaker 1: check out this house. That's what brought me all the
27:34
Speaker 1: way to Zoro Ranch from Las Vegas. I went there
27:37
Speaker 1: because I had to see it for myself. We sat
27:42
Speaker 1: outside for a while and contemplated the lurid crimes and
27:45
Speaker 1: wondered if he was still up to his old tricks.
27:48
Speaker 1: The next day, I walked back to the house and
27:50
Speaker 1: I was beyond shocked. Two young teenage girls were exiting
27:54
Speaker 1: the house. Folks, here you go. This witness is saying that,
27:57
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, witness two young girls exiting the house
28:02
Speaker 1: of sex offender Jeffrey Effing Epstein. Are you not embarrassed yet?
28:10
Speaker 1: Florida State Prosecution, mister Acosta, Department of Justice, Department of Corrections,
28:17
Speaker 1: and all for presidents that have been around during this
28:22
Speaker 1: guy's watch. Are you not disgusted with yourselves? You should be.
28:28
Speaker 1: They had girl next door looks and we're simply dressed
28:31
Speaker 1: in shorts and tank tops. I absolutely had no proof
28:34
Speaker 1: these girls were abused or a part of Epstein's documented
28:37
Speaker 1: seduction of girls from low income neighborhoods who took his
28:40
Speaker 1: money in exchange for depravity. But I did notice that
28:44
Speaker 1: they had vacant and sad expressions. This is this is brutal, guys.
28:48
Speaker 1: You know, I hate these kinds of stories. I really
28:50
Speaker 1: really detest it, and it makes me so mad to
28:56
Speaker 1: know that the legacy media could have done something about this.
28:59
Speaker 1: They could have acted and pressured the authorities into action
29:04
Speaker 1: the same way we see now. They waited for so long.
29:09
Speaker 1: So when they come onto TV or they make posts
29:14
Speaker 1: about the Jeffrey Epstein case, they write articles about it,
29:17
Speaker 1: always remember who you're dealing with. I also had a
29:22
Speaker 1: look at the flight manifest of his jet the media
29:24
Speaker 1: called the Lolita Express that he used to transport his
29:28
Speaker 1: inner circle and alleged survivors to his private Caribbean island
29:32
Speaker 1: and his wealthy party guests. The names were staggering. I
29:37
Speaker 1: decided then in there that I would make a documentary
29:39
Speaker 1: and try to catch him in the act. I've never
29:42
Speaker 1: heard any of this story before. This is good stuff,
29:45
Speaker 1: and this filmmaker is my kind of guy. Right sees
29:51
Speaker 1: something like this, knows that he has the resources to act,
29:54
Speaker 1: and starts, you know, digging in. After consulting with a crow,
30:00
Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer, I devised a plan that would include
30:02
Speaker 1: sending a legally aged woman into Epstein's house, but have
30:05
Speaker 1: them appear much younger. I would wire them with sound
30:09
Speaker 1: and hidden cameras and hopefully film him confessing his depraved
30:13
Speaker 1: preferences and potentially soliciting them to find other underage girls.
30:18
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy, mister average here is more enterprising
30:22
Speaker 1: than the FBI ever was. When you have people that
30:25
Speaker 1: are that make films, documentaries and directors and independent journalists
30:31
Speaker 1: who are more worried about what occurred at Jeffrey Epstein's
30:34
Speaker 1: and Gilaine Maxwell's hands, Folks, we have a much bigger
30:38
Speaker 1: problem on our hands. This was something he and his
30:44
Speaker 1: partner in crime, Gilane Maxwell, allegedly tended to do. I
30:48
Speaker 1: was genuinely concerned about the safety of these women, so
30:52
Speaker 1: I reached out to a retired police detective and a
30:54
Speaker 1: security firm to partner with in case things escalated or
30:58
Speaker 1: became violent. While I was planning my film, the book
31:02
Speaker 1: Filthy Rich was published, exposing Epstein's expedited and lenient journey
31:06
Speaker 1: through the justice system. The same book would be the
31:09
Speaker 1: basis of the Netflix series that was recently launched. And
31:13
Speaker 1: then that book, when it explained all of the disgustingness
31:18
Speaker 1: that occurred again, you would think that the legacy media
31:22
Speaker 1: would be all over it, but we hardly heard a
31:26
Speaker 1: thing at the time. Although silicious and filled with a
31:32
Speaker 1: who's who of alleged co conspirators, the book did nothing
31:35
Speaker 1: to spook Epstein or cause any real interest in the scandal.
31:39
Speaker 1: That's because the book didn't delve deep enough. Right Patterson
31:42
Speaker 1: gave you a very whitebread version of what went on. Sure,
31:45
Speaker 1: we got a decent inside look of what happened in
31:48
Speaker 1: Palm Beach, and the whole grooming situation and recruiting situation
31:53
Speaker 1: was explained, but there was no meat on the bone
31:56
Speaker 1: as far as the blackmail angle. The angle that Jeffrey
32:01
Speaker 1: Epstein was being run as an asset. None of the
32:04
Speaker 1: deeper situations of this whole entire case were really dug into.
32:11
Speaker 1: I decided I needed to turn up the heat on
32:13
Speaker 1: the film, and I leaked my plans to make a
32:15
Speaker 1: documentary in the New York Post, page six. What happened
32:19
Speaker 1: next was extraordinary. I was flooded with calls and emails
32:23
Speaker 1: from Epstein's survivors and anti sex trafficking groups and others
32:27
Speaker 1: actually offering to fund the film. A few of the
32:32
Speaker 1: survivors that reached out to me remained Jane does fearing Epstein,
32:35
Speaker 1: but described disgusting behavior that ran the gamut from gang
32:39
Speaker 1: rapes to pathetic pleading for sexual gratification and to forced abuse.
32:44
Speaker 1: They were miners. One of them told me that Maxwell
32:51
Speaker 1: was present and that she offered cash bonuses if they
32:54
Speaker 1: could procure other girls. Another Jane Doe, claimed Epstein threatened
32:58
Speaker 1: to harm her and her family if she ever disclosed
33:01
Speaker 1: what happened. She went back numerous times and was abused
33:04
Speaker 1: each time. The groups that were represented survivors were delirious
33:10
Speaker 1: that someone was finally going to take Epstein down. They
33:14
Speaker 1: recounted frustrating stories of how his well oiled sex abuse
33:17
Speaker 1: machine was protected and yet not unknown by both journalists
33:21
Speaker 1: and the police. Look, it's not me saying this about
33:25
Speaker 1: the journalists, right, It's not just my opinion. This is
33:28
Speaker 1: a fact, folks. The legacy media failed. They failed them,
33:32
Speaker 1: they failed us, and they failed at their jobs. This
33:38
Speaker 1: was beginning to sound like a clockwork orange meets eyes
33:41
Speaker 1: wide shut double bill. A day after the item ran
33:45
Speaker 1: in the post, I received a haunting call from a
33:47
Speaker 1: retired Palm Beach police officer. He warned me that I
33:51
Speaker 1: was playing with fire and that Epstein had the resources
33:54
Speaker 1: and connections to hurt me, both physically and financially. He
33:58
Speaker 1: told me that Epstein used private security firms that played dirty.
34:02
Speaker 1: He scared me sufficiently, but in the coming months I
34:05
Speaker 1: never heard from Epstein. And this was the typical move
34:08
Speaker 1: of Epstein. Right to intimidate people, to threaten people and folks.
34:13
Speaker 1: It is just another crime that can be put into
34:17
Speaker 1: the RICO statutes. This is another issue that should be RICO.
34:21
Speaker 1: They were threatening people, paying people off, intimidating people, and
34:27
Speaker 1: it was just allowed to occur. The authorities knew, the
34:32
Speaker 1: Legacy media knew all of the other enablers knew, and
34:37
Speaker 1: none of them lift a single finger to help these survivors.
34:42
Speaker 1: I continued my research and was uncovering beyond discussing details
34:46
Speaker 1: about lurid abuse and the gang rapes of so many children.
34:49
Speaker 1: I was horrified that Epstein put on a tuxedo and
34:52
Speaker 1: attended Gallas with Maxwell and then went home to one
34:55
Speaker 1: of his many houses of horrors and abuse children. Nothing
34:59
Speaker 1: says ed at Epstein, and I was beginning to wonder
35:02
Speaker 1: who the audience was for this film. Yeah. Uh, that's
35:06
Speaker 1: something you shouldn't have to wonder about, especially now, because
35:09
Speaker 1: there are plenty of people that would love for your
35:12
Speaker 1: film to come out, sir. There are plenty of people
35:15
Speaker 1: who would love to see you put these people on blast.
35:21
Speaker 1: Regardless of the offers to finance the film through various sources,
35:24
Speaker 1: I wanted a premium studio or streamer to partner with.
35:28
Speaker 1: I would soon find out that Hollywood, at that time,
35:31
Speaker 1: only four years ago, had very little appetite for this film.
35:34
Speaker 1: I wonder why. I wonder why Hollywood is an effing
35:40
Speaker 1: cesspool filled with abusers, rapists, and sex traffickers. That's not
35:46
Speaker 1: some conspiracy theory, Okay, that's not some ridiculous, far out
35:51
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. It is a fat as I would make
35:58
Speaker 1: the rounds to the usual suspects. The general response was
36:01
Speaker 1: that the infamous Jeffrey Epstein was not in fact famous enough,
36:04
Speaker 1: and so without a real hook, despite his famous friends
36:07
Speaker 1: and enablers. They passed because they were busy protecting those
36:11
Speaker 1: friends and those enablers, just like Nancy Pelosi's daughter said, folks,
36:16
Speaker 1: some of our faves are going to be caught up
36:18
Speaker 1: in this. One powerful agent recommended that I partner with
36:23
Speaker 1: a producer who had just been nominated for an Oscar
36:27
Speaker 1: for Thirteenth, a twenty sixteen documentary by director Ava Duverne.
36:33
Speaker 1: The day I met him, he was in a surly mood.
36:36
Speaker 1: The Academy allowed OJY Made in America to compete despite
36:39
Speaker 1: its television window, and it beat his film perfect timing.
36:45
Speaker 1: I pitched the project and he quickly told me he
36:47
Speaker 1: was not going to sully his reputation and follow an
36:50
Speaker 1: Oscar nominated film with a film about a pedophile. Isn't
36:53
Speaker 1: that nice? What a hell of a guy. I don't
36:55
Speaker 1: want to sully my reputation by talking about one of
36:58
Speaker 1: the biggest problems in the world. So yeah, you know
37:01
Speaker 1: what pounds in beat rocks. I'm going to make another profile,
37:05
Speaker 1: another film instead. These people are sick f Hollywood. If
37:09
Speaker 1: anybody who supports the people in Hollywood and all of
37:12
Speaker 1: their loud mouths, oh where me too? Where this? Where that?
37:15
Speaker 1: Where the No you're not, No, you're not You're all
37:18
Speaker 1: sick and disgusting. And the only reason any of you
37:21
Speaker 1: ever spoke up and came to the defense of the
37:24
Speaker 1: females that you know or your fellow female colleagues, is
37:28
Speaker 1: to rebuild and to fix your own reputations, to make
37:32
Speaker 1: sure that you keep your teflon on. My uber was
37:38
Speaker 1: longer than this meeting, and this was how the story
37:43
Speaker 1: played out all over town. There was no appetite for
37:47
Speaker 1: a film. One streamer actually said to me, if the
37:49
Speaker 1: guy kills himself, you have yourself a feature. But not now.
37:53
Speaker 1: How prophetic. Again, I don't understand how these these stream
38:00
Speaker 1: and these Hollywood studios. They love solicious shit like this,
38:05
Speaker 1: They love digging into politicians and tearing down people who
38:09
Speaker 1: have made money. But in this case, all of a sudden,
38:12
Speaker 1: this isn't silicious enough. All of a sudden, there's not
38:15
Speaker 1: enough there for you to dive in. Not having a
38:21
Speaker 1: presale has never stopped me before. But what was now
38:24
Speaker 1: giving me pause was a combination of the faces that
38:27
Speaker 1: belonged to the disgusting stories of grotesque abuse and the
38:31
Speaker 1: innocence and lives this man destroyed, and the complete disappearance
38:35
Speaker 1: of Guileann Maxwell. From what we understood even then, Maxwell
38:39
Speaker 1: was Epstein's well documented partner in crime, and as we know,
38:43
Speaker 1: she was eventually charged with four counts relating to procuring
38:46
Speaker 1: and transporting minors for ilegal sex acts. Well, at least
38:50
Speaker 1: he gets a right and calls her as her partner
38:52
Speaker 1: in Epstein's partner in crime and not a pimp or
38:55
Speaker 1: a madam. When I finally got her cell phone number
38:58
Speaker 1: from a source, she told me to screw off and
39:01
Speaker 1: hung up. Ultimately, what made me decide to abort this
39:04
Speaker 1: project was that I found it difficult to keep reading
39:07
Speaker 1: the horror stories I look at and look in the
39:10
Speaker 1: eyes of my twelve year old daughter. Look, I get
39:13
Speaker 1: that one hundred percent if I had a daughter, if
39:16
Speaker 1: I had children in general, I think this would be
39:18
Speaker 1: a lot harder for me to cover. I think this
39:21
Speaker 1: would be the sort of thing that I would look
39:23
Speaker 1: at and it would make my stomach turnover, and it
39:28
Speaker 1: would make me sick. But at the end of the day,
39:31
Speaker 1: this is a story that needs to be told. This
39:34
Speaker 1: is a story that cannot be swept under the rug,
39:38
Speaker 1: and this is a situation that must be met head on.
39:43
Speaker 1: I decided to drop the project and make Prosecuting Evil,
39:46
Speaker 1: a more noble film about a legendary prosecutor who successfully
39:50
Speaker 1: successfully prosecuted Nazis. In reflection, it became obvious that making
39:55
Speaker 1: this film or series on Epstein would involve having to
39:58
Speaker 1: do almost the inconceivable task of untangling the devious web
40:02
Speaker 1: of conflict of interests that kept Epstein virtually untouchable for decades. Well,
40:08
Speaker 1: look man, not for nothing but myself, Jen and Lisa
40:13
Speaker 1: over at the Prince in the Pervert podcast, which is fantastic.
40:17
Speaker 1: If you don't listen to that, you need to do that.
40:19
Speaker 1: That's what we've been doing here. We've been using our
40:23
Speaker 1: own resources, spending our own time to dig deep into
40:26
Speaker 1: this case. So if I was a powerful filmmaker who
40:31
Speaker 1: had a bunch of resources and people offering to make
40:34
Speaker 1: this film, I don't care how depressing the topic is.
40:37
Speaker 1: I don't care how much it's disturbing, I would dive
40:41
Speaker 1: in and I would do my absolute best to bring
40:44
Speaker 1: the truth to the masses. This included as powerful and
40:51
Speaker 1: rich friends, politicians like a circuit court judge who continues
40:55
Speaker 1: to refuse to unseal grand jury records related to Epstein's
40:58
Speaker 1: charges in Florida almost fifteen years ago, and people like
41:02
Speaker 1: Alex Acosta, who served in Donald Trump's cabinet with William Barr.
41:07
Speaker 1: Acosta was the US attorney in Miami, where Epstein received
41:10
Speaker 1: his shameful plea deal. Barr's father was the head master
41:13
Speaker 1: of an elite New York school that hired college dropout
41:16
Speaker 1: Epstein to teach math. I mean, really, how are you
41:19
Speaker 1: a college dropout but you're getting a job at an
41:23
Speaker 1: elite school like Dalton to teach math? I diagno, you
41:26
Speaker 1: did it all on your resume, right. You didn't have
41:29
Speaker 1: anyone helping you out, Darth. Barr's dad didn't pull any
41:33
Speaker 1: strings for you or anything. Huh. On the day Epstein
41:37
Speaker 1: killed himself allegedly, I was not surprised, and I do
41:40
Speaker 1: not subscribe to any theory that he was murdered. In fact,
41:44
Speaker 1: I was told by well placed sources that the jail
41:46
Speaker 1: guards were paid off through his associates to look the
41:49
Speaker 1: other way while he killed himself. Since the Filthy Rich
41:52
Speaker 1: series has premiered, so many people have asked me if
41:55
Speaker 1: I feel I missed the opportunity or made a mistake
41:58
Speaker 1: not pursuing the film. Well, that's fine. You can believe
42:01
Speaker 1: that he wasn't murdered, and that's great. If you're going
42:04
Speaker 1: to believe your well placed sources. I don't know their names.
42:08
Speaker 1: I don't believe them. If I can't vet it, I
42:11
Speaker 1: don't believe it. Folks, all right. Since the Filthy Rich
42:16
Speaker 1: series has premiered, so many people have asked me if
42:18
Speaker 1: I feel I missed the opportunity or made a mistake
42:21
Speaker 1: not pursuing the film. My response is simple, I am
42:25
Speaker 1: happy with how the story ends. Well, the story is
42:28
Speaker 1: far from over, sir, So you might still have a
42:30
Speaker 1: chance to dip your toes in if you're not being scared,
42:34
Speaker 1: if you're not going to shy away from the hard work,
42:38
Speaker 1: if you're willing to jump in and make a documentary,
42:41
Speaker 1: then I am sure the survivors and everybody else researching
42:46
Speaker 1: the case would be thankful. But what this article really
42:50
Speaker 1: goes to show is that Gilene Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein
42:57
Speaker 1: were most certainly hanging out out in the timeframe when
43:02
Speaker 1: Maxwell said that they were not. It establishes that she
43:06
Speaker 1: is a liar once again, and it also tells us
43:10
Speaker 1: just how complicit Hollywood was in this whole entire thing.
43:16
Speaker 1: They didn't want to even talk about it. When your
43:19
Speaker 1: Uber ride is longer than your meeting with somebody you're
43:22
Speaker 1: pitching a film to, then you know the fix is
43:26
Speaker 1: most certainly in. If you'd like to contact me, you
43:30
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43:34
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