Latest / Why Not Today? with Leslie Kane / The Why Not Today? Podcast - Season 3 - Episode 42, Thomas Sweitzer, A PLACE TO BE
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- 0:00Welcome to the Why Not Today podcast where we celebrate courage, determination, and the
- 0:06power of saying why not today.
- 0:08I'm your host, Leslie Cain, and in each episode we dive into inspiring stories of individuals
- 0:13who have taken bold steps, faced their fears, and embraced the possibility of today.
- 0:18From entrepreneurs to artists, dreamers to doers, we explore the moments when they said
- 0:22enough waiting, why not today?
- 0:25Join me as we uncover the heartwarming, the audacious, and the transformative.
- 0:29Whether it's pursuing a lifelong passion, overcoming obstacles, or simply choosing joy,
- 0:34our guests share their journeys and inspire us all.
- 0:36I started this podcast in honor of my father, Patrick Cain, who often said why not today.
- 0:42And remember we're just one decision away from changing our lives.
- 0:46And so welcome to the Why Not Today podcast again, and really why not today?
- 0:51I'm kind of evolving as we're going.
- 0:53This is almost three years, and I really feel like why not today is a movement, and a movement
- 0:57to encourage people to live their life, live their lives with courage, and pursue their
- 1:02dreams.
- 1:03And so I love all the stories that I've heard, the story behind the story, the why not today
- 1:08moments.
- 1:09And so my guest today is Tom Thomas.
- 1:12Did you go by Tom?
- 1:13Tom?
- 1:14Tom is good.
- 1:15Tom, Tom Schweitzer.
- 1:17And I heard about you about a year ago at the social collectives team.
- 1:23And then I've had several people say, oh my gosh, you have to have Tom on your podcast.
- 1:28And then we happened to be at a gala about a month ago, and somebody walked, you walked
- 1:35up with your co-founder, and I'm like, oh, and we tried to connect and we couldn't.
- 1:40And so I'm so excited to have you on.
- 1:42And I love the connections.
- 1:44Another good friend of mine, Kelly, well, Kelly Goose is now I know, or Kelly Barr, you
- 1:48worked with.
- 1:49Just fun to see all the connections in the community, and I'm excited to have you on.
- 1:54You've got some amazing why not today moments and stories of courage.
- 1:58And I love what you're doing.
- 1:59And it aligns with my heart with working with special needs and my sister Amanda, which
- 2:04we've got to get in the fold of you.
- 2:06So Tom, introduce yourself a little about you, not your whole courage journey, not your
- 2:11whole just who you are and a fun fact.
- 2:15And then we'll get into courage.
- 2:17Leslie, thank you for having me.
- 2:19I'm very honored.
- 2:21And so I'm a music therapist.
- 2:24I'm the co-founder of a place to be in Loudoun County, Virginia.
- 2:28We are 15 years old.
- 2:29We're a nonprofit organization helping the world find community belonging and hope working
- 2:37with people with and without disabilities.
- 2:40I'm an actor.
- 2:41I'm a writer.
- 2:42I'm a lover of life.
- 2:45Fun fact about me, about my family.
- 2:49Maybe my I'm related to a very large Italian family that owns an amazing amusement park
- 2:55outside of Altoona, Pennsylvania.
- 2:57Oh, well.
- 2:59And also we have a spaghetti sauce that is international called Del Grosso sauce or La
- 3:05Familia.
- 3:06So I always find that's a fun fact.
- 3:07Oh, that's a fun fact.
- 3:08Do you have the family recipe that you share?
- 3:11I do.
- 3:12I do.
- 3:13But I think around here you can get it.
- 3:15I got it at Wegmans, Martins and probably Walmart, I think.
- 3:21Harris Teeter was holding it for a while.
- 3:23But yeah, so that's because you're going to learn all the other personal things about
- 3:26me.
- 3:27So I love that.
- 3:28Well, I might have to look for the sauce.
- 3:29Yeah.
- 3:30Not know the Italian background.
- 3:32And we are doing for the first time my sister's hosting Christmas Eve and we're doing seven
- 3:37fishes.
- 3:38I guess an Italian thing.
- 3:40So you will smell for seven days after.
- 3:42Oh, well, we're doing it at her house, so yay.
- 3:45Yeah, that's the thing in our family too.
- 3:48We always were like, whoever hosts that night, let them host it.
- 3:54And it's such a good night.
- 3:55I love the seven fishes.
- 3:56Well, when we're done, you might have to give me some suggestions and ideas.
- 3:59So she just sent an invite.
- 4:00I'm not sure what we're doing, but I think it'll be fun.
- 4:03Huge missions.
- 4:04Yeah, you want to bring an outfit that you can put over, an outfit, and then you take
- 4:08that off.
- 4:09Okay.
- 4:10Good tips.
- 4:11So love that.
- 4:12And I love that you said community, involvement, and hope.
- 4:16Community belonging and hope.
- 4:18Belonging, even better.
- 4:19And that's really what I am about and love all those.
- 4:22So all right, what does courage mean to you, Tom?
- 4:27Courage to me means, it means vulnerability.
- 4:33It means that you're not afraid to reach deep inside of what is vulnerable inside of yourself.
- 4:40Where your darkest thoughts, your dreams, the part of yourself that you have some fear about,
- 4:53where loneliness resides, where there's a hole, where you dig inside of that part of
- 4:59yourself to make a difference in the world for others.
- 5:07And I think anybody that has, the people I admire very much in my life who have had courage,
- 5:13so many people either faced with some sort of trauma.
- 5:20And we both, I'm sure you and I both have tons of friends, either cancer survivors or
- 5:24something is going on or a car wreck.
- 5:27And our life is so fragile right now, our lives.
- 5:31And there's so much chaos going on that I think it's the best time to be courageous and
- 5:37it's a really hard time to be courageous.
- 5:39And so I learned courage a long time ago when I learned that I would have to dig inside
- 5:47to really find who I am and then to see what I could dig up, what I could excavate from
- 5:53myself to go out and help other people.
- 5:58That's my, that's sort of the definition I see.
- 6:01And we can just stop now because that's an, oh my goodness, I love that.
- 6:06And so true.
- 6:07And I was just listening to a podcast and I said, talk about loneliness and that's just
- 6:12something that has hit my heart so hard that people are so lonely and our world is upside
- 6:17down and we're just talking about a situation.
- 6:19We're not going to go into the situation right now because hopefully by the time somebody
- 6:24listens to this or 20 years from now when you listen to this, it's a matter.
- 6:28So we're not going into it, but I think you said, yeah, this world is upside down.
- 6:32It is upside down and loneliness is obviously more in a crisis.
- 6:38And that's, so when you are mission here at a place to be community, belonging and hope,
- 6:45belonging that middle word is so important.
- 6:47And there are studies that have been done now on, you know, what is belonging, how a
- 6:53person's life is forever changed when they belong to something.
- 6:57And at the end of the day, Leslie, that's all we're trying to do.
- 6:59We're trying to wake up in the morning and belong to something.
- 7:03And that is something we are extremely, we're very passionate about here that everybody
- 7:11that walks through our doors here at a place to be feels like they belong.
- 7:14Well, I think the whole belonging thing, it's the connections to like, if you can find that
- 7:20mutual connection, that was something my dad was brilliant about, like getting to know
- 7:24people asking questions.
- 7:25Like, can you find that mutual connection?
- 7:27Like I went immediately when we first met, you told me you grew up in Altoona.
- 7:32I'm like, oh, we drove past Altoona, you know, I stopped at McDonald's or, you know, nothing
- 7:37more than drive through, but a media life out connected to you.
- 7:40Hopefully not McDonald's.
- 7:42Get that.
- 7:43It's in the news.
- 7:45So, but yeah, we'd stop there on the way to go skiing.
- 7:50And but that was immediate connection.
- 7:52Yeah, you went to Blue Knob, right?
- 7:53Yeah.
- 7:54Did you ski there?
- 7:57Yeah.
- 7:58Well, no, I was not a skier.
- 7:59I went there with I went there with friends to watch them ski.
- 8:03Okay.
- 8:04So yeah, our good friends of our family owned those mountains.
- 8:08Okay.
- 8:09So that's exactly I mean, connection is it right?
- 8:12And that is what we are missing.
- 8:14Right.
- 8:15And if you can find that connection, you went to the same school you even if it was
- 8:1820, 100 years apart, you find that connection.
- 8:23And I think once you can find that you build that trust with people.
- 8:26Totally.
- 8:27And so, and you feel like you belong, which is exactly.
- 8:30And something that connects, you know, and that's the thing that we're having a problem
- 8:34with in the world right now is, right?
- 8:37How do you connect to other people?
- 8:39And people are shut down.
- 8:41A lot of people are shut down.
- 8:43A lot of people don't know how to connect.
- 8:45And when you work with the populations we work with, which you know very well, if you're
- 8:51in a minority, if you're in the world of disability, connections are hard.
- 8:57Try being in a wheelchair and how isolated you feel most of your day anyway, or autism
- 9:03that has trouble communicating.
- 9:06So what we do here is the moment you walk in, we want you to feel like, you know, without
- 9:13the religion, you're at church, you're here as a community, gathering place.
- 9:19And that's what we, that's what we hopefully do for all of our clients here and all the
- 9:23performers we have here at a place to be.
- 9:25And music is such an important thing.
- 9:28I met somebody the other night in an event and he walked up to me, introduced himself,
- 9:32so what do you do for fun?
- 9:35And not what do you do to make money?
- 9:36I don't, he says, I don't care about that.
- 9:38I'm like, well, what I do for fun is actually a business when I talked about the podcast.
- 9:43And he said, the reason I asked that question is he said, a couple years ago, I was in ICU
- 9:47dying and I had to call my daughters and tell them, no, I'd probably never see him again.
- 9:51And obviously still on the side of the earth and doing great.
- 9:55But he said, ever since that moment, he's like, I've been passionate about asking questions,
- 10:00getting people to know people.
- 10:02And we talked about the music.
- 10:04And he said that when people that he know, unfortunately are dying, cancer, something,
- 10:09he creates a music playlist for them of their favorite music and shared that with them.
- 10:14He said he had a good friend passing away and he was pretty unconscious and he played
- 10:18his, their favorite song that they had as friends.
- 10:21And he said he opened his eyes and so music is so powerful.
- 10:24So I want to get into the whole place to be and how that came about, but I want to go
- 10:28way back.
- 10:30You told me your first why not say moment and it goes back to the starfish I always wear
- 10:35and you never know who that one person that's going to make a difference.
- 10:38It's going to take your life completely pivotal.
- 10:41And you told me a story and I can remember it vividly when you told me where I was sitting.
- 10:45So it was a why not say moment for me.
- 10:47So share that first why not say moment that changed the trajectory of your life.
- 10:53Sure.
- 10:55Born and raised in Altoona, Pennsylvania in the 70s.
- 10:59Very gray, dismal time in Pennsylvania in Altoona at that point.
- 11:04I lived in a very crowded neighborhood.
- 11:06My mom was very ill.
- 11:09She was obese and had diabetes and a very severe heart condition.
- 11:17My dad was paranoid schizophrenic.
- 11:21I was an only child and my household was pretty much hell.
- 11:27Although my mom made sure to make beautiful moments for me and I was loved.
- 11:31I was loved by the rest of my family.
- 11:33I was loved by the neighbors.
- 11:35Around eight years old, I always fascinated about the church that was across the street
- 11:42from my house.
- 11:43And one of my my father being schizophrenic, one of his triggers was religion, which is
- 11:50a very common thing for paranoid schizophrenia.
- 11:53He had complete conversations with God, with the devil.
- 12:01But I would hear this beautiful music pouring out of these stained glass windows across
- 12:06the street at the church.
- 12:07And you would hear the organ.
- 12:09Every Sunday morning, every Sunday night, all week long, I'd hear the bells.
- 12:15And at that point in my life, I slept in the living room with my mom.
- 12:21I slept on one couch.
- 12:22She slept on another.
- 12:23My couch was up against a big window.
- 12:26That's where I felt safest.
- 12:28My mom felt I was safe, my dad was also abusive.
- 12:31And at night, I would pull back the curtains and I would stare across the street at that
- 12:35church and I would pray.
- 12:37And as I say in my show, I used to pray to, I thought it was a radio tower because remember,
- 12:43radio was really big, seven, eight, and I thought the steeple of the church was a radio
- 12:48tower.
- 12:49And I myself, if I live that close to a radio tower, you know, I must have amazing reception.
- 12:56So I thought that God, God, we hear bears a little bit louder.
- 12:59Love that thought process.
- 13:01Yeah.
- 13:02So one Sunday morning, I just, I couldn't take my house hold anymore.
- 13:07I couldn't take the screaming.
- 13:09I couldn't take the abuse.
- 13:11And I was in my pajamas and I heard the music from across the street and I ran out as fast
- 13:16as I could across the street.
- 13:18I went up to the steps.
- 13:21And at the top of the steps, this part, all of this is actually how it happened.
- 13:27And this next part, sometimes people hear this next part and they think, oh, no way.
- 13:31I also think there's no way this happened, but it did.
- 13:34I got up to the top of the steps, the big red doors open, and there stands this Sunday
- 13:39school teacher.
- 13:41She has a three-piece skirt suit and she had a big, tall beehive and these little cat glasses.
- 13:47And she asked me, what took you so long to cross the street?
- 13:52We've been waiting for you.
- 13:55And to this day, you know, I don't know.
- 13:59I don't know if she saw my face in the window throughout the years, but her name was Erdine
- 14:03Grissinger.
- 14:04She died in her midnight.
- 14:05I was going to say, she's still alive.
- 14:08Oh, she, she passed away, I think it was probably about 10 years ago, but I did get to see her
- 14:12before she passed away.
- 14:14Wow.
- 14:15And there was it.
- 14:16And I walked into her Sunday school room and there was a piano.
- 14:20The first piano I ever touched and she sat beside me and she, you know, it's kind of
- 14:25cool.
- 14:26I have one here.
- 14:29And I played and, you know, all she had to do and oh, and she was, she played a song
- 14:35for me.
- 14:40And every time she'd play a song, she'd end the song with what she called a grand finale.
- 14:44So it could even be amazing grace.
- 14:50It would end like this.
- 14:53Love it.
- 14:56And if you're listening and not watching, he looks like somebody with a grand finale.
- 15:01He's funny.
- 15:02And then I stayed there with her for about eight years every Sunday.
- 15:06I never missed.
- 15:07She taught me how to play the piano.
- 15:09She taught me how to sing.
- 15:11She without knowing it was a music therapist.
- 15:14She was music therapy to me.
- 15:16And so, yeah, that's when my life was saved.
- 15:19That's why not today.
- 15:22And I mean, that eight year old who I was, I was like, why not today?
- 15:26I'm going to cross the street and follow the music.
- 15:29And yeah, so that's to hear that story.
- 15:33So that started to directory your life obviously turned around.
- 15:37She made such a difference.
- 15:38And you also shared how she had food for you.
- 15:41Oh, yeah.
- 15:42So she also she caught on fast, you know, that I didn't really have a great home to
- 15:48go back to.
- 15:49So when Sunday school was over about 1145, she would pull out her lunch and she would
- 15:56like by mistake, she packed two sandwiches and she would say like, oh, oh, my, look
- 16:01at this.
- 16:02I packed two sandwiches.
- 16:03You should stay here.
- 16:04She would ask me to water her plants.
- 16:07Anything to get me to stay longer.
- 16:09And I would stay all afternoon.
- 16:11I mean, there were times I don't know, you know, that when I got older, I became head
- 16:16of the youth choir.
- 16:18I did shows.
- 16:19I became so I had a reason to be at church from nine to nine.
- 16:23Like there were nights I didn't go home until about eight or nine and I never had to come
- 16:27home, which, you know, almost brings me to tears to think about how many kids, even children
- 16:35today, they'll do anything to stay out of their home because there's something.
- 16:40Yeah.
- 16:41And if she didn't give me that refuge, if she didn't give me the literal sanctuary,
- 16:48I know I would not be here.
- 16:50I would not I would not be in my own sanctuary here.
- 16:52I sit at a place to be while right across the hallway, there are two or three children
- 16:57having music therapy.
- 16:59And that that I do like every morning I wake up and I think, you know, it's about connecting
- 17:04our stories.
- 17:05Leslie said about connecting, right?
- 17:07Like how do we make it of our lives and ourselves?
- 17:10Well, people like storytellers, people like people that have a story, but everybody does.
- 17:16But we have to be awake and open.
- 17:19Like I it took me years.
- 17:21It took me into my late twenties to understand the importance of how my life was saved.
- 17:25Then when you find that moment when somebody opens a door for you, when somebody gives
- 17:30you something that propels you into the next chapter of your life, our duty is to then
- 17:36help somebody else.
- 17:38There was a there was a pastor in Upperville, Virginia.
- 17:42So I moved, went to college.
- 17:44I did go to college and went to Shenandoah University to be an actor.
- 17:47I went into music theater.
- 17:49But then I started to teach in Middleburg, Virginia at a private school.
- 17:52And that's another Godwink, you know, how did I find that job just happened to be a kid
- 17:59that was in a camp that I was teaching and the headmaster came by and saw me and said,
- 18:04Hey, do you want to be in my office tomorrow for an interview?
- 18:07But there was a pastor, you know, I've now lived in Middleburg for 31 years.
- 18:13This pastor passed right before I moved in.
- 18:16And all I heard Leslie, the first year I started to teach in Middleburg was, Oh my, you remind
- 18:22us of this pastor.
- 18:24His name was Dick Peard.
- 18:25Oh, you you're so much like Dick Peard.
- 18:26Well, I found out I was honored to be compared because this man was an amazing man.
- 18:33But he said one statement in a graduation speech that he gave that I use all the time.
- 18:40When you find your place in this world, help others find theirs.
- 18:45Okay, I repeat that when you find your place in this world, you find your place when you
- 18:51find your place in this world, help others find theirs.
- 18:56Those two sentences boil everything down to why we're here.
- 19:03Now in some of us, I'm very, you know, although I grew up very poor, there was abuse in my
- 19:09house.
- 19:10I'm going to tell you, I was still privileged.
- 19:12I was privileged because I had love around me.
- 19:14I had teachers.
- 19:16I had mentors.
- 19:18I had I had the church.
- 19:20I had God, whatever.
- 19:21And I believe in, I believe in everything.
- 19:23But whatever God I was told, I kind of created in my head, you know, I had to create him,
- 19:30you know, when I went home, because you have to have something to hold on to.
- 19:34And you know, it was great to hear the church's version of God.
- 19:39But as I grew older, I say this in my book, God grew with me.
- 19:44So my definition when I was a child was sort of, you know, it's what you're taught, what
- 19:50the Bible teaches you or what somebody preaches, but as I got older, he kind of like went along
- 19:55with me.
- 19:56He kind of adapted because this all I think of God is love.
- 20:03That's it.
- 20:04And so, and the love guided me to this day.
- 20:07And so that when I started teaching at in Middleburg, that saying just those two sentences,
- 20:13when you find yourself, when you find yourself in this world, help others find theirs, that
- 20:17was the end all for me. And that's hence where some of my service came from.
- 20:24And I've always wanted to help children.
- 20:29This is something I think I told you about Leslie too.
- 20:32And I don't share this one all the time, but I'm a very proud person to share this now
- 20:37is I was also in Easter Seals until I was seven.
- 20:42So I was in a classroom full of people that are diagnosed disabled.
- 20:49And I found a certificate that a schooling certificate in a shoe box that I put away
- 20:56a long time ago.
- 20:57And it said it was for Easter Seals.
- 21:01And it said I was diagnosed with MR, which is mental retardation, because they didn't
- 21:08have I I've always known I'm probably somewhere on the spectrum somewhere.
- 21:14But I couldn't say my S's, my T's, my R's or my W's and my last name was Switzer.
- 21:20So they didn't know where to put me.
- 21:23And plus this energy you're seeing right now, I had that energy.
- 21:25It was like a five year old.
- 21:27And I wanted to create and draw and paint and dance and sing.
- 21:32By second grade Leslie, my teachers understood me so well, you know, it's the old fashioned
- 21:36school in 1978, whatever that was, you know, big old brick building, cement hallways.
- 21:44My second grade teacher was so brilliant.
- 21:47She knew I had ADD and ADHD.
- 21:50I don't know what they called it back then.
- 21:52And she knew I love to dance.
- 21:54So my mom bought me a pair of tap shoes.
- 21:57So between classes, she would let me get my tap shoes on and I would just tap myself
- 22:02up and down that long hallway for like three minutes and then she'd be like, Tommy, come
- 22:07on back in.
- 22:09So that's what I mean.
- 22:10Like I didn't have a privy life with money.
- 22:14I didn't have a home that was safe.
- 22:17I was also a fat little kid, made fun of.
- 22:22But I had privilege of love.
- 22:24And I think that that is when we're looking for the resilience, right?
- 22:28And I know we have, we've lost a lot of the power of resilience in our world too.
- 22:35But some people don't have that much love around them.
- 22:39Some people aren't understood or hugged.
- 22:42You know, we come into this place, a place to be all the time and it's like a, it's a
- 22:45massive hug.
- 22:46Not everybody has that.
- 22:48And so that is bringing us to today.
- 22:50That is where Kim Tapper, my brilliant co-founder and I, she has her own story, which is amazing
- 22:56of how she got here.
- 22:57And we're really excited to have her on the podcast as well.
- 22:59Yeah.
- 23:00And we have two totally different stories, but we ended up together.
- 23:03We're also, we knew at one time we were like only 2% of men and women who run an organization
- 23:10together and we're not married.
- 23:13It's quite peculiar.
- 23:14And we also, we've been best friends for 22 years and we finish each other's sentences.
- 23:21And but we both knew that the world needed more love.
- 23:26So music therapy is when I went into, she went into psychology and life coaching and
- 23:33we started to see the same clients.
- 23:36They go see her.
- 23:38They go see me.
- 23:39I write a song, we perform it.
- 23:42And you know, our first year, Leslie was 2010.
- 23:46And between the two of us, we had about 23 clients.
- 23:49We kind of looked over.
- 23:50Let's talk, I mean, we've talked around a place to be.
- 23:52So I know there was a moment, another why not say moment where you started it, but talk
- 23:56about how you started it and exactly what a place to be does and your mission.
- 24:01And it is a nonprofit.
- 24:02And what you're doing it then, I know you're changing lives and I know just talking about
- 24:06all the things and I can relate the connection.
- 24:08My sister Amanda, who has Down syndrome, born in 82, people asked my parents that they were
- 24:13going to keep her because at that point they institutionalize many kids with Down syndrome.
- 24:20That's what they do.
- 24:21And so my parents are like, no, we actually have a letter and stories.
- 24:25My dad shared about the day she was born and people are like, do you want to be in the
- 24:28hospital away from the normal mothers?
- 24:32And they said Amanda was going to be special.
- 24:34My dad's like, I have five other kids that are special.
- 24:37And so it's funny.
- 24:38I was just messing with a friend the other day and Amanda was in the car and sent a message
- 24:43and my friend's like, you know, Amanda just makes me smile and Amanda makes everybody
- 24:47smile.
- 24:48And the joy Amanda brings and I just went to her workplace and our old boss was there
- 24:52and she's like, I miss Amanda.
- 24:54Can I call her to just hang out with me and do I'm like, yes, you love that.
- 24:58But yeah, so we just need that love.
- 25:02And all right.
- 25:03So that was a tangent.
- 25:04So tell me how did a place to become about that quickly that night when I met your sister,
- 25:10you can.
- 25:11Oh yeah, you'd better.
- 25:12Well, authenticity, you know, any of us that are blessed and honored enough to live or
- 25:20work live with any of these individuals who maybe have autism, Down syndrome, and then
- 25:27there are many hidden disabilities.
- 25:30The resilience they have, the authenticity they have, we need to learn from them.
- 25:36Yes.
- 25:37And then I have all but all the bag is like one time I was with a friend and we were walking
- 25:41around the lake with Amanda and Amanda's like, Oh, captain flipped over the sailboat and
- 25:44they went all the way over like this was 20 some years ago.
- 25:47I'm like, I mean, the things she remembers and my friends like, you know, she doesn't
- 25:51have all she's not worried about where meals coming from.
- 25:53She's not worried.
- 25:54I mean, she does worry about some things, but she had all the crap in her head that
- 25:58we do.
- 25:59Yep, exactly.
- 26:00And she can just be who she is and be honest about who she is in her feelings.
- 26:04Like when my dad passed away, she was sad and she was and even to this day, it's like
- 26:09I miss my dad, I'm sad and she says the things that we might not be vulnerable enough to
- 26:14say.
- 26:15Yeah, I would say that in Down syndrome could can be sometimes an autism, obviously, there's
- 26:21a portal that some of these different populations live in that are very blunt, truthful, don't
- 26:32have a lot of veneer and not a lot of screen, you know,
- 26:38Yeah, maybe I'll call you out.
- 26:40Oh, Catherine Greg too much last night.
- 26:41She's, you know, and she's watching and she's paying attention on social media too.
- 26:47She knows everything about everybody.
- 26:49Oh my God.
- 26:50Just kind of fun.
- 26:52It gives her some fun things to do.
- 26:54Yes.
- 26:55All right.
- 26:56So place to be how did what was that why not summary moment and how did that.
- 27:00So how it came about is for 14 years I was teaching at the Hill School in Middleburg,
- 27:06Virginia.
- 27:07Yeah, but I was giving voice lessons acting lessons and I started to work with arts for
- 27:11all which was called very special arts where Kelly and I have worked together.
- 27:17And that was my first real in involved moment where I got to work with people with disabilities.
- 27:24My first show was Cinderella.
- 27:26It was this was all started in our area by an amazing woman by the name of Alice power.
- 27:32And she wanted a new director.
- 27:33I came in and to be really honest with you very unlike my days when I was six or seven
- 27:38years old in Easter Seals.
- 27:41I hadn't spent a lot of time with people with disabilities until this came about that night.
- 27:46That cast had approximately 45 individuals, maybe 1015 will chairs in front of me.
- 27:55I was overwhelmed.
- 27:56I did not know what to do.
- 27:58And then what you do.
- 27:59Why not today?
- 28:02I have been.
- 28:03Yeah.
- 28:04And I can remember Leslie, I it was at the Hill School, we're in the theater area.
- 28:09I welcomed everybody and also one of my first time seeing parents with handcloths wiping
- 28:16up their children's saliva.
- 28:20Children bent over hand flapping screaming at I didn't have a lot of training.
- 28:27I went into the bathroom and I looked at myself and I thought, who do you think you are?
- 28:32Because for a moment I thought, I'm an actor.
- 28:35I'm into theater.
- 28:37I want to go to Broadway someday.
- 28:39Like, you know, and who do you think you are?
- 28:42And I can remember what I was wearing even I was wearing a white sweater.
- 28:46I looked at my natural day moment.
- 28:48Yeah.
- 28:49And that was it.
- 28:50Then I went back and I took over.
- 28:53And so that started that.
- 28:55And then about four years later, I was given a voice lesson to a young man who was 13.
- 29:01His father had taken his life just weeks before.
- 29:05Kid comes into a voice lesson.
- 29:08He asks me to start to help him write a song that he gave me a poem about his dad.
- 29:14He said, could you help me write a song?
- 29:15I said, sure.
- 29:17That one half hour of voice lesson went on for two hours that night.
- 29:21So I knew something was happening.
- 29:22Like I was like, oh my God, this is where I do my best, right?
- 29:26And that night I was in Shenandoah University, you know, they have a professional summer
- 29:32series of music theater.
- 29:35And I played Horton the elephant there many times.
- 29:40So that night I was playing Horton and I still am a big, I love Shenandoah Summer Music Theater
- 29:48and I help out wherever I can.
- 29:49But that night I was on a net.
- 29:51If you remember the story of Horton, he tries to hatch an egg up on a nest.
- 29:55I'm in an elephant outfit.
- 29:57I'm on a nest.
- 29:58I'm singing a beautiful song called Salah Saloo.
- 30:02But it hits me and I'm watching hundreds of people who pay to watch me sing as an elephant.
- 30:07And I thought about that boy all during the show.
- 30:11I could not get the kid out of my head.
- 30:13I went home and I thought, I'm a music therapist.
- 30:17That's it.
- 30:18And then I went back to school that next term and, you know, it's a four year program.
- 30:24We are trained just like a regular therapist.
- 30:26We take anatomy.
- 30:28We have to, it's almost like the bar exam.
- 30:30When you're done, you have to, you have to get accreditation and certified.
- 30:35And at that time, right before that, I met Kim Tapper.
- 30:39And Kim was running another nonprofit in DC at the time and she came to dance at the
- 30:45Hill School.
- 30:46I needed a choreographer.
- 30:48We talked, we talked.
- 30:49We were like, oh my God, I feel like we knew each other our whole lives.
- 30:53Wow.
- 30:54So then after that night of hoarding the elephant, I went back to school, but as soon as I graduated,
- 31:00she and I opened up a place to be in 2010 and started out with 23 kids between the two
- 31:07of us.
- 31:08And today we sit here.
- 31:09It's 275 families per week, 14 full time music therapists.
- 31:17And we are a nonprofit and I unfortunately, unfortunately, spent a lot of my time right
- 31:23now raising funds because we have never turned a child away because of financial reasons in
- 31:2815 years.
- 31:29But Kim and I, we both have between the two of us, this is financial aid.
- 31:35We have to raise close to a million dollars a year because we are paying certified therapists
- 31:42and we have been working that are living in Loudoun County.
- 31:46So yeah, we're doing our best and everybody that works here is working because of love.
- 31:52You know, they're not working here because they have great salaries.
- 31:55They're working here because right before I walked in here, there's a young man here
- 32:00that is nonverbal, but he's not nonverbal when he goes in there with one of our music
- 32:05therapists and sings.
- 32:07So that is one of the difference you're making.
- 32:09I love it.
- 32:10And I want to get involved.
- 32:13We want to get a man involved.
- 32:14We want to spread the word and get you support.
- 32:19And I know we're recording this and it's coming out in December of 2024, but there's a couple
- 32:25things coming up.
- 32:26So if somebody listens to it real time, like what's going on in December of 2024 with the
- 32:30place to be in December 2025, it'll probably be happening too.
- 32:34And there's other things to get involved.
- 32:35But I thought timing wise, let's share a little bit.
- 32:38I can share it in the show notes too.
- 32:40Like what's going on.
- 32:41Okay.
- 32:42So the biggest one, we have Charlie Brown Christmas.
- 32:44That's this weekend.
- 32:45So that's very soon.
- 32:47That's Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
- 32:49You can go to our website, a place to be VA like Virginia.org, a place to be VA.org.
- 32:54But the thing I would invite everybody to is my, this is my Christmas.
- 32:59It's December 22nd, Sunday, December 22nd at two o'clock.
- 33:04It's at Salamander resort.
- 33:07The resort is nice enough, kind enough to give us the entire ballroom.
- 33:11We usually have about 300 to 400 people show up, 500 at one year.
- 33:16And it is our concert.
- 33:18And this year, the theme is vintage variety show.
- 33:22If you remember the Andy Williams shows from the 60s, 70s, and it stars our children.
- 33:28And keep it about 85 minutes.
- 33:32So you can get in at two o'clock and you can get in your car before it gets dark.
- 33:36We hand out tissues on your way in.
- 33:39It's a very happy, happy tears, very moving experience.
- 33:44Cost is nothing.
- 33:46We will ask you if you want to become a donor.
- 33:48We have many ways you can do that.
- 33:50A one-time gift, you can become part of our Firmata circle, which is like a monthly sustainer.
- 33:55That can even be at $10.
- 33:57Everything goes to programming and financial aid, but you don't pay anything to come to
- 34:02the December 22nd.
- 34:03I would just say if you want to come, get there at 130 for a good seat.
- 34:08And yeah, just be ready to have a good day.
- 34:11So can you get tickets or you just show up?
- 34:13Just show up.
- 34:14Okay.
- 34:15I'm going to give me a gift to my mother, so she won't listen to podcasts.
- 34:18I'm like, show up.
- 34:20I love it.
- 34:21Leslie, that's a great idea.
- 34:22I think that is very cool.
- 34:24I think a lot of people bring people back every year.
- 34:27It is like much better than the HomeMark channel.
- 34:29I was going to say the HomeMark channel.
- 34:31It's like the real HomeMark being right in front of you.
- 34:36But one of them I created, I had somebody on the podcast a couple months ago and she talked
- 34:40about a local bucket list and I've always been all about bucket lists, but I've always
- 34:45done a holiday bucket list.
- 34:47And I have my holiday bucket list of places and one of the things I think is, Middleburg
- 34:51is magical at Christmas.
- 34:53It is a Hallmark town kind of thing.
- 34:55And so one of the things was to go there and I like to do things with my mom and sister.
- 34:58So I think we might just have to come and just surprise her and definitely want to get
- 35:04a man involved and other people involved.
- 35:07Next year, Leslie, now that we know each other and our friends, my house is on the parade
- 35:12route and I have parking.
- 35:15So I will be there because I saw it the other day.
- 35:18I'm like, oh, I wish I would have gone to that.
- 35:20Yeah, you can park in my yard.
- 35:22You have to get there early and you just watch it from the yard.
- 35:25Well, I love that.
- 35:26All right.
- 35:27So we are a little longer, but this is so good.
- 35:29Before we go though, talk about your book.
- 35:31I know I heard about it when I first heard of you and you were signing copies, but tell
- 35:35me about it and how we signed it.
- 35:37Yeah, so there's two things connected there.
- 35:40I was lucky enough to have a one man show off Broadway last year in 2023 called 20 Seconds.
- 35:46So the book is called 20 Seconds.
- 35:49It's only privately.
- 35:51It's not published quite yet.
- 35:53We're waiting because of the hope right now the off Broadway show 20 Seconds is being
- 36:00made into a Broadway type musical with people.
- 36:06Yeah, it's with it's being produced.
- 36:10One of our producers is Joey Parnes, who is one from the original Jersey Boys and many,
- 36:15many others.
- 36:16I have two amazing producers here.
- 36:19Ben Graham, Frank Baltz and some people would know around here is Teresa Wheeler.
- 36:26She's one of the biggest philanthropists here in Loudoun County and she helped get this
- 36:30show off the ground and the show is about how music saved my life.
- 36:35So by spring of 2025, it will be sold on Amazon and hopefully we will be going to publishing.
- 36:44So how do I get a copy?
- 36:45You have to wait till spring of 2020.
- 36:47I will give you a copy.
- 36:49And if anybody really wants it, they, this is how I keep my Facebook as my blog.
- 36:56Because I didn't want to do it.
- 36:57So you do great things on Facebook, by the way.
- 36:59Thank you.
- 37:00Thomas Switzer, not Tom.
- 37:02Thomas Switzer and you can go right to my Facebook.
- 37:05I keep all place to be.
- 37:07And we'll share all your show, all your contact information as show notes.
- 37:11Great, great.
- 37:12But yeah, and then, you know, hopefully in a theater somewhere next fall, you'll see
- 37:18the show and can get your book there too.
- 37:20So, so fun.
- 37:22So yeah, we'll definitely share all your contact.
- 37:25And when the book comes out officially, we'll have you back on the podcast.
- 37:28That would be great.
- 37:30And one of the things that I've talked about here a couple of times that I mentioned to
- 37:33you, and it's kind of a Godwink passion project to me is to really have why not today be a
- 37:39movement that changes people's lives.
- 37:41And I read something the other day and there's actually a phrase and I don't remember exactly
- 37:45what it is, but talks about how the clothes we wear, if it's got words on it, how we can
- 37:50live our life that way and how it makes a difference in our life to give us courage to
- 37:54do.
- 37:55It was some organization that has t-shirts that talk about it.
- 37:59That it's just not words.
- 38:01Yeah, no, but so I really feel like why not today is a movement and a message that we
- 38:05need to give people courage to do the things.
- 38:07And so part of my passion is to partner with nonprofits that when you buy a why not today
- 38:13swag percentage goes to nonprofits.
- 38:15So we're putting that together and we'll definitely partner with you guys to raise some funds
- 38:19in the future.
- 38:21Wonderful.
- 38:22So how would you encourage somebody else to say why not today to be brave, to be courageous,
- 38:28to do the thing?
- 38:29So walk across the street to the church.
- 38:32I think going back to the beginning to bookend our conversation, right?
- 38:36Courage, right?
- 38:38Where do you find it?
- 38:40It takes a big breath in.
- 38:42It takes some silence and you have to go down here.
- 38:47And inside there are where all of your childhood dreams are still alive, where all of our
- 38:52childhood dreams are still alive.
- 38:54And so I would say that the first thing that you do is make sure that you give yourself
- 39:00a space and time to feel.
- 39:03Because we are moving so fast, especially when it comes to around these seasonal times,
- 39:10that we don't stop and feel.
- 39:12And as a music therapist, I would tell you that sometimes it's silence and sometimes
- 39:17it's not a feeling.
- 39:18And as a music therapist, I would tell you that sometimes it's silence and sometimes
- 39:22like you were talking about the playlist, it's putting on a song and saying, I'm going
- 39:26to sit on my hands.
- 39:29I'm not going to do anything but listen to this song.
- 39:33There you will find your courage.
- 39:35Yeah, so true.
- 39:37And we don't give ourselves enough.
- 39:39And my word last year was space to give myself more space.
- 39:43And like my ideas come when I'm going for a walk, when I'm in the shower, when I get
- 39:47in my car and listen to music.
- 39:49And that's because during the day, I just, I fill my space with so many things and we
- 39:55don't take the time.
- 39:56And going back to your childhood dream, the childhood dream I remember is to be financially
- 40:03in a place that I can give back and volunteer.
- 40:05I'm with you.
- 40:06Where am I going?
- 40:07I'm with you.
- 40:08I know.
- 40:09So connecting back to my dad, I think he's definitely the belonging part, as I said,
- 40:15just being, connecting, finding people.
- 40:18Obviously Amanda, he was a proponent of anybody with disabilities with, you know, getting
- 40:23Amanda in schools that wasn't being bussed off and making Amanda was just like anybody
- 40:29else.
- 40:30Yeah.
- 40:31I think you're doing that as well.
- 40:33And just, you know, he started a group home and just being able to give back.
- 40:39And then he was an only child like you.
- 40:41And so he surrounded himself with other people to fill his life and always did.
- 40:45And our house was always full of a million people because nobody was excluded.
- 40:49Well, I think that you creating what you're creating with this takes all of those pieces
- 40:55of his legacy and then makes it your legacy.
- 40:58Yes.
- 40:59Keeps going, keeps rolling.
- 41:02And I, you know what?
- 41:03Every episode I do, I was telling somebody the other day that like sometimes it's not
- 41:06easy and you know, the podcast isn't really a financial thing yet.
- 41:10Yes.
- 41:11But I just keep doing consistently and I'm not missing.
- 41:15And I'm just like, you know what?
- 41:16I'm just following the path that God is putting in front of me, the people I'm supposed to
- 41:21meet.
- 41:22And you know, we tried to connect months ago and somebody got COVID and it wasn't the
- 41:25right time.
- 41:27And so just following.
- 41:28It's always the right time.
- 41:29And I felt the same way Leslie about my one man show, right?
- 41:33So I'm 52.
- 41:35So it took me to 51 to get to Broadway, right?
- 41:38I never even tried.
- 41:40Like that whole world up there is a world to itself.
- 41:42But what you just said about your podcast took seven years to get the show there.
- 41:47I never dreamt it really would be going to off-Broadway.
- 41:50I had no idea that would be, you know, on 42nd Street for six weeks, doing my mission.
- 41:57And but what I did was just kept going, kept going, kept going, kept going, kept going
- 42:00because don't give up.
- 42:02Don't give up.
- 42:03Just keep going.
- 42:04If you, and whatever ends up, at least you're doing what you love.
- 42:07Yep.
- 42:08And when those coincidences happens and those Godwings and those things happen.
- 42:13Rabbit.
- 42:14Because you were living your life in alignment to your values.
- 42:17And I'll never forget exactly where I'm standing in that dull, smaraght when I met you officially.
- 42:22Hey.
- 42:23It's gonna be a one-man thing moment in my life.
- 42:25And then your sweet sister.
- 42:26I mean, yeah, I'm sure we have a lot to do together and I just appreciate.
- 42:31We're not done.
- 42:32Hearing other people's stories too.
- 42:35Thank you for putting that up into the world.
- 42:37Thank you for being a guest, honored to have you on here.
- 42:40And we'll share all your contact in the show notes.
- 42:43And if anybody's listening real time and you want to go to the concert with me on the 22nd,
- 42:46I'm going.
- 42:47So we'll figure that out.
- 42:49So share the, share the mission of why not today, everybody listening.
- 42:54It's a movement.
- 42:55Be courageous.
- 42:56Do the things that you love.
- 42:57Your little childhood dreams, the things that keep you up.
- 43:01And thank you everybody for enjoying and are joining us for this inspiring journey.
- 43:05For every day is an opportunity to take action, chase your dreams and make a difference.
- 43:08So why not today and make sure you're subscribing, liking, sharing, telling other people about
- 43:13the why not today message.
- 43:15You can find everything you want about why not today at whynottodaypodcast.com or on
- 43:20all the social and let's make a movement and remember why not today.
- 43:25Thanks again, Tom.
- 43:26Thank you.
- 43:27Bye.
- 43:28Bye.