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Gorgeous 28-year-old brainiac missing, carpet soaked with blood & bleach. What happened to Jennifer Rothwell? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: A gorgeous young twenty eight year old chemical engineer, beautiful
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  Speaker 1: and a brainiac twenty eight years old, goes missing. She
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  Speaker 1: doesn't show up for work at a highly sought out
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  Speaker 1: job at DuPont and co workers start calling. Where is she?
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  Speaker 1: Where's Jennifer? What happened? Is it the weather? It is
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  Speaker 1: only then police find her vehicle several miles away from
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  Speaker 1: home in a heavily wooded area Kicker Her cell phone
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  Speaker 1: is still in the car. Last seen that morning, dressed
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  Speaker 1: up in business attire, headed off for her job, hair
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  Speaker 1: back in a little messy bun. What happened to Jennifer Rothwell?
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Jennifer Rothwell is twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: years old and married. She's five foot six inches tall.
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  Speaker 1: She has long, light brown hair, curly hair. She weighs
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  Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty pounds now. She was last
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  Speaker 1: seen leaving her West Saint Louis County house yesterday morning.
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  Speaker 1: Crevecorps police located in a car not far from this
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  Speaker 1: house the same day, near the intersection of Olive and
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  Speaker 1: Fife Road. Flyers of the missing woman are posted right
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  Speaker 1: now inside several businesses in this very neighborhood. Police also
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  Speaker 1: tell us Rothwell's family and friends usually talk to her
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  Speaker 1: every day, but again, they have not heard from this
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  Speaker 1: woman since Jennifer left home early yesterday morning, and that's
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  Speaker 1: why they filed a missing person's report. Police say Rothwell's husband,
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  Speaker 1: all of her relatives and family members they spent that
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  Speaker 1: they talked to them. They said, right now, they have
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  Speaker 1: not named anyone as a suspect. Again, they say, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: cooperating and they just want to know where this woman
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  Speaker 1: is again at least tell us this young lady has
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  Speaker 1: never disappeared before. You are hearing our friends at k
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  Speaker 1: s d K five News. That's Robert Townsend on the
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  Speaker 1: search for a beautiful young woman of Saint Louis woman
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  Speaker 1: her husband and family begging for her safe return. Jennifer Rothwell,
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  Speaker 1: just twenty eight years old, goes missing on Tuesday morning,
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  Speaker 1: but then her car is found abandoned two miles away
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  Speaker 1: from home with me and all star panel to break
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  Speaker 1: it down and put it back together again. Jason Oceans,
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  Speaker 1: renowned defense attorney out of the New York, New Jersey area,
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  Speaker 1: joining us Stephen Lampley, detective author of Outside Your Door
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  Speaker 1: at Stephen Lampley dot Com psychologist and adjunct professor at
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  Speaker 1: Columbia University. Doctor Debbie Joffe Ellis the Deputy Medical examder
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  Speaker 1: Travis County, Texas, and Austin doctor Kendall Crowns with us,
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  Speaker 1: but right now to leave I Page Prime online dot
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  Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter Levi. I keep looking at this gorgeous
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  Speaker 1: woman's picture. She's just twenty eight years old. Where was
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  Speaker 1: she last seen in Saint Louis. She was last seen
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  Speaker 1: wearing a business attire, leaving her home in Saint Louis
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  Speaker 1: County wearing business attire? Interesting? Do we know what she
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  Speaker 1: did for a living? Levi? I don't think that has
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  Speaker 1: been released to the public. Nancy much about her. We
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  Speaker 1: do know this though. Her twenty eleven Hundai Sonata was
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  Speaker 1: found and the coworkers were the ones that noticed she
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  Speaker 1: didn't come to work. Interesting. She was dressed in business attire,
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  Speaker 1: clearly on her way to work, but she never made it.
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  Speaker 1: A twenty eight year old girl, Jennifer Rothwell just seemingly
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  Speaker 1: disappears into thin air. She was seen early that Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 1: Is Levi Page is telling you leaving her suburban home.
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  Speaker 1: They're in north Wind's drive area. Unclear where we're getting
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  Speaker 1: that information from. Don't know if the husband left before
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  Speaker 1: her or after her, if the neighbors saw her, but
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  Speaker 1: we do know she left from her home seemingly to
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  Speaker 1: go to work, but it was coworkers that realized she
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  Speaker 1: didn't show up. We have also learned that her cell
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  Speaker 1: phone was in the car, but her purse missing. To
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, detective and author of Outside Your Door, you
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  Speaker 1: know most people and this day and age, do not
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  Speaker 1: leave their cell phone if you take anything, it's like
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  Speaker 1: a wizard with their wand and Harry Potter, you don't
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  Speaker 1: go anywhere without your cell phone. I find that very disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: Her cell phone was still in her car then, so
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Even with me, when I leave the house,
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  Speaker 1: if I don't have my billfold, I'm good with that.
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  Speaker 1: I continue on. If I don't have my cell phone,
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  Speaker 1: I turned up hand to come back and get it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: anytime you have a situation like a special with a
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  Speaker 1: cell phone, and you're correct, that is something that we
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  Speaker 1: noticed that something calls for a long so we need
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  Speaker 1: to look at that definitely. I also know that as
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  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, she's a chemical engineer. She is
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  Speaker 1: no agent. She has not been seen or in contact
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  Speaker 1: with anyone since leaving her home, and Jason notions why
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  Speaker 1: it matters to me that she's a chemical engineer. Why
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  Speaker 1: I think that's important is this is not a woman
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  Speaker 1: who didn't have a job and could just like go
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  Speaker 1: day trip and all over town and wander aimlessly at
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  Speaker 1: the mall, including the parking deck where predators. Maybe she's
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  Speaker 1: not hanging out in some crack house. This is a
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  Speaker 1: professional woman, twenty eight years old. Stunning by the way.
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  Speaker 1: She reminds me a lot speaking of Harry Potter, she
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  Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Emma Watson with the long
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  Speaker 1: arbor hair. Usually I see it pictured back in a bunk,
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  Speaker 1: in a really loose bun. But she has a job
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  Speaker 1: she goes to. She has a fantastic education. She's a
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  Speaker 1: chemical engineer with DuPont. That is a very hard position
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  Speaker 1: to get. You know, how many people try to intern
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  Speaker 1: with a company like that. They've got chemical engineers coming
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  Speaker 1: out there. We're in Jason Oceans. But she got the job.
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  Speaker 1: Now highly qualified. Your chemical engineers are you know, sought
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  Speaker 1: after in the employment field. Engineers by nature, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a certain methodicalness, attach chemistry to it. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a routine, right that develops in work as well as
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  Speaker 1: someone who has those those traits and uses them in employment.
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  Speaker 1: So business attire, ready to go to work, you know,
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  Speaker 1: seeing routine probably and pretty close to it, absent anything
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  Speaker 1: out of the ordinary. And here we have something out
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  Speaker 1: of the ordinary. You know what I'm thinking of. It
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  Speaker 1: just hit me just then when you said routine and
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  Speaker 1: you said discipline. For a degree in engineering and chemical engineering,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be disciplined. It's like law school. If
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  Speaker 1: you're going to succeed and pass the bar the first time,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be disciplined. You have to have a
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  Speaker 1: study schedule. I remember studying literally at least five hours
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  Speaker 1: a day, at least outside of classman Nancy, that was
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  Speaker 1: ten hours a day for me when she's twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: years old. I just flashed back to twenty eight. I
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  Speaker 1: was trying felonies day in day out, left and right.
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  Speaker 1: And one have to suit up just like she did
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  Speaker 1: in a suit or a business dress. The pantyhose, the hills,
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  Speaker 1: the makeup, the hair, the blah, the blah, to go
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  Speaker 1: to work. That is a whole regiment, Jason oceans to
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  Speaker 1: get to work at DuPont. So you're right about the routine,
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  Speaker 1: so that what does that mean to you, Jason? That
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  Speaker 1: says to me that when you're disciplined and you're focused
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  Speaker 1: and there's a schedule, that you could count on someone
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  Speaker 1: and expect them. So when there's something out of the ordinary,
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  Speaker 1: people notice that quickly. Because you are involved in a
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  Speaker 1: routine and you are consistent about what you do, that
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  Speaker 1: makes it easier on an investigation to see where the
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  Speaker 1: deviations were. Well, another issue to Debbie Joffie Ellis Psychologists
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  Speaker 1: joining us doctor Debbie, the fact that she had a
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  Speaker 1: routine and was very disciplined makes a fact that her
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  Speaker 1: car has found abandoned a couple of miles away with
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  Speaker 1: her cell phone in it, it makes it even more
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  Speaker 1: nefarious sounding to me. Can you explain a routine evidence
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  Speaker 1: what it means for people deviate from a routine? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we have to be careful not to assume too much
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  Speaker 1: about it immediately, because there are people who are very
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  Speaker 1: disciplined for a long period of time and then for
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  Speaker 1: whatever reason they've had enough, they want to change, they
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  Speaker 1: want to rebel. So the thing that alarms me the most, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: whoa WHOA, doctor Derby. She's just twenty eight. No, she
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  Speaker 1: hasn't time to get disillusioned and bitter. Okay, she's only
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  Speaker 1: been out of school for about four years and then
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  Speaker 1: she snagged this job, her dream job at DuPont. Please,
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  Speaker 1: she's not raging and bitter at this point where she's
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  Speaker 1: ready to just kick off her heels she has to
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  Speaker 1: wear to work and jump off the end of the pier.
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  Speaker 1: All right, she's not there, and according to her family,
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  Speaker 1: she loved her job. Oh, Nancy, I wasn't suggesting any
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  Speaker 1: of the above, and rebellion doesn't necessarily have to have
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  Speaker 1: a negative connotation. Maybe that I use the wrong word there. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get across is that, to me,
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  Speaker 1: what's most alarming is the abandoned car. But we can't
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  Speaker 1: assume too quickly that because the person changes from the
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  Speaker 1: regular routine that it necessarily means something shocking. It may
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  Speaker 1: in this case, I hope not, but it doesn't. All Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, doctor Debby, You're a psychologist sitting there
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  Speaker 1: in a classroom at Columbia University. What's a good alternative
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  Speaker 1: of what this could mean? Since she was dressed to
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  Speaker 1: go to work. Was do you at work? Gave no
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  Speaker 1: indication to family or friends, she was not going to work.
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  Speaker 1: Now she's gone and she left her cell phone and
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  Speaker 1: her car behind. What did she just like go off
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  Speaker 1: on foot without her cell phone? What is your theory
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  Speaker 1: of the breaking away scenario? What happened? Right? So, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have one theory. I'm not psychic. I can think
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  Speaker 1: of some possibilities. One is okay, just give me one. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: something shocking happened, you know, that's what like what I
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  Speaker 1: mean you're going. I'm saying this is bad. Her car
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  Speaker 1: is found, her cell phone is in it, she's disappeared,
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  Speaker 1: she did to show up to a dream job, and
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  Speaker 1: it all looks bad to me. But you're saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this could be at some point she just had an
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  Speaker 1: inner rebellion and what rand to pick the flowers? Then
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  Speaker 1: where is she? I want to hear. Let's follow your
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  Speaker 1: theory through to its logical conclusion. What scenario is in
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  Speaker 1: your head that could be anything but bad? Again, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: I hesitate to have any one theory unless they have evidence.
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  Speaker 1: So far, the evidence points in the direction that you're
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  Speaker 1: going in which something pretty bad happened. But your original
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  Speaker 1: question was what could it be or what could be
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  Speaker 1: behind it? There are a number of possibilities. At the moment,
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  Speaker 1: it's not looking okay, give me one, no possibility, that's
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  Speaker 1: not bad. Just one, okay, and I hope it's right.
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  Speaker 1: She's fallen in love. This incredible person has said join me,
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  Speaker 1: take a break, and she succumbs to temptation because it's
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  Speaker 1: very differnt to what she's done for a number of
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  Speaker 1: years till then what guy? What guy? Get you guys,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing in her text, there's nothing in her emails.
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  Speaker 1: There's no voicemails that say that, what did he say?
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  Speaker 1: Run away with me to Paris without your cell phone
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  Speaker 1: and don't take a vacation day, just blow off to
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  Speaker 1: part That's the scenario. I'm saying, Yeah, you you pressed
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  Speaker 1: for another post. You said this doesn't have to be bad.
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  Speaker 1: You said there's a lot of reasons she could have
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  Speaker 1: just left her car on her cell phone there, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm just waiting with bated breath.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, a missing woman in Saint
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  Speaker 1: Louis County is escalating. Good evening, Thanks for joining us
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  Speaker 1: from Corney Bryant. I'm Steve Now sing Wis County police
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  Speaker 1: are at the home where the West County woman lives.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer Rothwell was last seen leaving her home in Criefcorps
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Police found her car about a mile away
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  Speaker 1: near the intersection of Olive and Fifi, who fours Kim
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  Speaker 1: saint Age is live in Rothwell's neighborhood. Detailing the breaking
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  Speaker 1: developments at ten Kim and right now police have part
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  Speaker 1: of the street blocked off. If you look there in
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  Speaker 1: the distance and you see where those porch lights are,
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  Speaker 1: that is where Jennifer Rothwell lives with her husband here
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  Speaker 1: in Criefcorps. And we've seen an officer going in and
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  Speaker 1: out of their carrying something. At one point it looked
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  Speaker 1: like he was carrying a large piece of cardboard. But
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  Speaker 1: for the last fifteen or twenty minutes they've actually been inside.
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  Speaker 1: It appears they may be searching the home. I've asked police,
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  Speaker 1: is someone in custody right now at this hour. Police
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  Speaker 1: are adamant that no one is in custody and that
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  Speaker 1: this is still considered a missing person's case. Rothwell's mom
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  Speaker 1: tonight tells me she thinks her daughter was taken. A
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  Speaker 1: frantic search tonight for twenty eight year old Jennifer Rothwell,
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  Speaker 1: a chemical engineer at Dupe Haunt. She had just moved
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  Speaker 1: to Criefport with her husband. She works hard, people like
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  Speaker 1: her has a lot of friends at Robin. Von Hausen
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  Speaker 1: says her daughter left early for work Tuesday around six
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  Speaker 1: twenty am because of the weather. Police found her car
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  Speaker 1: about a mile away, near the intersection of Olive and Fiefee.
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  Speaker 1: Her family tells me her cell phone was in the car,
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  Speaker 1: but her purse was gone. Von Hausen says one of
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  Speaker 1: her DuPont co workers tipped him off that something might
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  Speaker 1: have happened. A co worker texted and said, hey, how's Jennifer.
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  Speaker 1: They assumed that she just hadn't come into work because
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  Speaker 1: of the weather or whatnot. So it wasn't until late
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  Speaker 1: six or so in the evening before even knew that
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  Speaker 1: she hadn't made it to work. That's when Rothwell's husband
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  Speaker 1: filed a police report. Police say they thoroughly searched the
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  Speaker 1: area where her car was found, no sign of her.
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  Speaker 1: Rothwell's family says she was happily married and this isn't
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  Speaker 1: like her to run away. There's nothing for her to
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  Speaker 1: run away. Baffling. I can only think that someone has
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  Speaker 1: taken home. Is that what you guys are thinking? I
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  Speaker 1: can't think anything else. Her family is now offering a
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  Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollar reward for any information that helps
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  Speaker 1: find her. They've talked about starting a search party, but
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  Speaker 1: no details have been ironed out. At this point, I
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  Speaker 1: asked police, Okay, what's different about this particular case compared
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  Speaker 1: to say, any other missing person's case than they tell
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  Speaker 1: me that Rothwell is a twenty eight year old professional
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  Speaker 1: of sound minded body who lives a low risk lifestyle.
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  Speaker 1: And it isn't like that really to just go missing
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  Speaker 1: without warning. It appears this investigation is changing by the minute.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to stay on top of this and keep
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  Speaker 1: you updated with any new information. For now, the Live
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  Speaker 1: and Cleave Corps can say NaN's news four Well, there's
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  Speaker 1: the light as the mother was begging for her safe return,
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  Speaker 1: and it is the husband that calls police and tells
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  Speaker 1: them she's missing. That big, big problem is that to
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  Speaker 1: you Stephen Lampley, detective author of Outside Your Door You
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  Speaker 1: can find him at Stephen Lampley dot com. Is that now,
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  Speaker 1: cops have a seven hour lag time. Apparently the weather
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  Speaker 1: was so bad. I hope that doctor Debbie Joffee Ellis
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  Speaker 1: heard that her theory of this young beautiful professional tripping
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  Speaker 1: away in her barefoot stockings on a lark she could
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  Speaker 1: barely get in with the weather. But the issue is
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  Speaker 1: they got a seven hour lag time. Stephen Lampley, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Houldg Doctor Debbie. I know you
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  Speaker 1: want to get back at me for that, and I
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  Speaker 1: will certainly allow that. Go ahead, Steve Lampley, answer right.
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  Speaker 1: Seven hours of a long time, and of course you
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  Speaker 1: and I both are the first forty eight or are
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  Speaker 1: the golden hours, But seven hour light time from the
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  Speaker 1: time she left to go to work until I guess
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  Speaker 1: her I think her car was discovered or he reported
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  Speaker 1: her missing, that's a long time. A lot can happen
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  Speaker 1: in seven hours. You can travel long distance and then
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  Speaker 1: records to the doctor if she did run away, she's
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  Speaker 1: got a seven hour triple time. So seven hours was
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  Speaker 1: indeed a long time. Yeah, I mean, you know, sixty
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  Speaker 1: miles an hour for seven hours, that's a long way.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm also not hearing anything about a struggle to
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  Speaker 1: Leavipage crimal line dot com investigative reporter, the one who
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  Speaker 1: did not know she was a chemical engineer. That would
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  Speaker 1: be you, leavi Page. Do you know anything about this?
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  Speaker 1: The condition of the car? Did she run off the road?
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  Speaker 1: Did she have a single car incident? Uh? What do
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  Speaker 1: we know? Was there struggle in the car? Was there
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  Speaker 1: blood in the car? Was there seeming in the car
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  Speaker 1: where they're closed in the car? What do we know
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  Speaker 1: about the car? Nancy, Her car was discovered and there
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  Speaker 1: was no damages to the car. It didn't seem like
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  Speaker 1: there was a struggle inside, like anything nefarious had happened inside.
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  Speaker 1: Her purse was missing and her cell phone was found inside.
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  Speaker 1: That's all we know about her vehicle that was discovered
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  Speaker 1: about two miles away from the home. We know the
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  Speaker 1: family and the cold weather trying to arrange a search crew.
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  Speaker 1: Take listen to our friends at CBS News four. We
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  Speaker 1: are closer to where Jennifer Rothwell's car was found on
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday night, and right now Missing Persons posters like these
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  Speaker 1: are on trees all along all of in the area.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the area where Saint Louis County police
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  Speaker 1: returned late this afternoon many officers heading out on foot,
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  Speaker 1: others stopping in businesses to talk to them, some even
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  Speaker 1: searching in dumpsters. Powerhouse guy zoom four captured the scene
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  Speaker 1: from above as Saint Louis County police searched in connection
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  Speaker 1: with a Jennifer Rothwell reported missing on Tuesday. Police also
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  Speaker 1: spent the day in and out of businesses, along all
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  Speaker 1: of asking for any surveillance video. It was here right
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  Speaker 1: in front of Bank of America that this video was recorded.
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday night, a large police presence found an abandoned car
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  Speaker 1: same time, same place as police found Jennifer Rothwell's car.
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  Speaker 1: Rothwell's husband posted this on Facebook, asking anyone who knows
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  Speaker 1: about his wife's disappearance to text him, Hey. I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to also determine why it took seven hours for her
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  Speaker 1: family or her husband to know notice she was gone. Now,
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  Speaker 1: maybe she gets so engrossed at work that she's not
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  Speaker 1: one to text or email during the day or call.
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  Speaker 1: That could be very true. Or maybe her husband has
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  Speaker 1: a job or he's out and about and he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have access to a phone. But I know this with
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  Speaker 1: temperatures in that situation. Doctor Kendall Crown's if she is
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  Speaker 1: on foot. How long could she last? It just depends
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  Speaker 1: on how well she's dressed. If she's just dressed all
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  Speaker 1: in her business attire, no coat, would be a matter
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: of If it's blow zero, she could probably succumb to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the cold and half hour or so somewhere in Man
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, this is the area where
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: we've been watching. As you can see behind me, Saint
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Louis County police officers carefully combing this field and the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: nearby wooded area. Neighbors are telling us there's actually a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: creek just beyond that tree line, and it appears there
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: may be a flashlight, so they've been focused in on
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: this area. By the way, this is the Robinwood West
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Park and unincorporated Saint Louis County, right next to Criefcorps.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: They've been focusing on this area for the last hour,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: but we can tell you all afternoon we've been watching
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: as police officers have been carefully checking some of the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: other areas. Creeks have been a really big focal point again,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: all in the neighborhood. This field and nearby wooded area
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: by the way that we're talking about is about a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: half a mile from the home where Jennifer lived with
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: her husband Bow. So right now you're looking at video
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: flying up ahead powerhouse guys and four again, you can
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: see several police cars that whole area about a block
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: or so that investigators have blocked off while they continue
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: combing through this area. We're still working around the clock
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly why they're here, if they
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: possibly Our friend Kim Saint Ainge at CBS News for
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis reporting on the intense search around missing Jennifer
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Rothwell's car found in a wooded area straight back to
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: doctor Kendall Crowns, the Deputy Medical Examiner Travis County, Texas.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: That's Austin, doctor Kendall Crowns. And we've done a little
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: research and the temperatures were as low as seventeen degrees
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: at the time she goes missing. Yeah, so someone that's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: probably not dressed for the weather. Let's say she doesn't
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: have the code seventeen degrees, she gets out of her
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: car or starts walking, she's probably going to become hypothermic
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: within a half hour to an hour or so, collapse
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and then die shortly there. What do you mean by hypothermic?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: What are the symptoms of that. What does the person
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: go through if they are hypothermica, That is, her body
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: temperature drops below normal and as it gets down to
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the ninety region of the body temperature, your mind starts
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: slowing and you start becoming confused. And then if you
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: drop into the eighties, you basically go into a comma
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: un collapse. How Cohl does it have to be for
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that to happen at seventeen would be you could easily
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: do that with seventeen degrees, twenty degrees anything below freezing.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So anything below thirty two degrees, I remember, right, that's freezing.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Doctor Debbie Joffe ellis she wants in. Okay, I'm prepared,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I'm braced, I've got on my bulletproof, and they ast
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: hit me. Okay, Nancy, We'll look. An effective psychologist, like
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: an effective lawyer, will not jump to any definite conclusions
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: without solid evidence. And so I don't for a minute
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: want to be understood as having said, well, maybe Jennifer
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: tripped off to some romantic I didn't say that. You
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and your magnificent assertive style pressed me for other possibilities
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: than something tragic, And so I hypothetically suggested that I
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: could have made up twenty others. It's not looking good,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: but really, because I had to put I'm not a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: d D. Yes, I'm just a JD. But I had
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to pull a tooth to get that one out of you,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: because you kept saying it doesn't have to be nefarius,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: that she broke a routine, and I had to like
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: basically beat you black and blue to get that one
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: scenario that she would run away with. What a lover
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: she You hadn't even married that long. There's all the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: honeymoon phase, just four years for peats saying yeah, and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you know what, if I'm good at fiction, I can
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: give you ten other scenarios, none of which I'll believe
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: until I have evidence. See, that's why you work at
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Columbia University, because you're a pro Okay, Stephen, that's why
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you That's why I'm fighting with you. That's why I'm
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: fighting with you. You often hear us discuss a primary,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: secondary tertiary crime scene. We know that the first crime scene.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: The first saying we don't know if there's been a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: crime yet is doctor Debbie Joffee. Ellis has accurately pointed
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: out is her car where her cell phone is we
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: know she's now been gone for seven hours, so police
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: naturally go to a secondary potential saying and that is
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: her home. Take a listen to our friends at KMO.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: The posters bearing Jennifer Rothwell's picture lined the streets along
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Olive in West County, her family and friends posting on
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Facebook a twenty five thousand dollar reward to find her.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: She was lasting Tuesday. Early Thursday afternoon, police returned to Canvas,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the area where her car was found right in front
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of the Bank of America just about ten minutes ago.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Police are telling us the husband, twenty eight year old
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Bo Rothwell, was charged with tampering with evidence. We know
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: that all afternoon police were out here in this wooded area.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: This is unincorporated Saint Louis County, near Criefcorps, about a
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: half a mile from where the couple lived. They just
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: took down the crime scene tape within about ten minutes.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: But as I mentioned, police now revealing to us some
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: pretty gruesome details. So here's what they're telling us. They're
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: saying that the husband, Bow was seen on the eleventh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the day before Jennifer disappeared. He was seen on video
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: buying cleaning products, including bleach, carpet cleaner, and gloves. So
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: last night we were there as police obtained that search
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: for it and went into the couple's home on North
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Wind's Drive. They were in there for hours, and they're
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: now telling us the detective located wet carpet soaked with
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: bleach and large areas of blood on the carpeting and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: underlying pad carpet soaked with bleach. Jason Oceans, you're a
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: veteran defense attorney. Why is it that's so often when
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: women go missing or when there is a homicide or
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a kidnap in quoties, suddenly the husband or the lover
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: becomes an incredible neat Nick. I think of Scott Peterson,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: remember how he did all the laundry and the sheets
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: everything when Lyci went missing. And then there was Jodi Arius.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: She just got the the laundry bug when her lover,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Chevis Alexander was stabbed dead and whoopsie, her digiKam was
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: in the laundry and it showed her leg and foot
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: at the crime scene during the murder. So now you
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: got the husband bo Rothwell bleaching the carpet um. Jason thoughts, Yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the analogies are good, Nancy. Yeah, all of a sudden,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you know, seemingly don't suck. Jason. If this guy is
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: your client, what do you do in the face a
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: video of him by Bleach who knew he was a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: neat Nick and then the Bleach soaking the carpet, maybe
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the kitchen floor, maybe the bathroom, but the carpet. Jason, Hey,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: can you get on that one instant domestication? I get it, Nancy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And so if you're if you're looking at the end
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: game of an attorney, obviously you're seeing the tea leaves
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna try to negotiate something else if you
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: know the body hasn't been found or things of that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: If there's a boy that's your defense client you're talking
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: about a body, Nay, you're looking at them totally not
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: hiring you anymore. Yeah, we're gonna wait for a trial, Nancy.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: We're not going anywhere until there's a you know, greater resolution.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: But but for the moment, I mean, you're obviously absorbing
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: all of that and advising your client that, as you said,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: does not look good that you've now you know, been
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: found on video purchasing cleaning products and bleach uh and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the underlying area has copious amounts of blood. Not looking good, No,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it is crime stories with Nancy Grace. Police are also
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: revealing what they say Bo did the day before his
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: wife was reported missing. November eleventh. Police say Bo Rothwell
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: was seen on video buying cleaning supplies. November twelfth, around
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: six twenty am, Jennifer's mom says Bow told her Jennifer
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: was last seen leaving for work that evening. Bo says
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: he filed a police report. Just hours later, police find
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Jennifer's abandoned car near Olive and Fifi. Jennifer's mom says
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: her phone was inside, but her purse was gone. And
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: then on November thirteenth, last night, at seven forty five pm,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: police execute a search warn at the couple's home and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Bo was taken into custody. Our cameras were rolling as
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: investigators spent hours going in and out of their home.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Bow's arrest comes less than five hours after posting this
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: on Facebook, saying some of you may have already heard,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: but last night my wife Jennifer went missing. I've filed
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: a police report and the search is ongoing. Please if
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you hear of anything or have any information, it would
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: be greatly appreciated. Jennifer's mom tells me the two had
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: been happily married for five years. She thought her daughter
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: may have been taken. She never said anything about not
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: being happy with what was, you know, her job or
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the way her relationships. We're going you are hearing our
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: friends at KMOV. That was Kim Saint Age on the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: story from the get go. There is no way that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: this woman is still alive. And it's very, very difficult
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: for people on the outside looking in to imagine why
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: in such a new marriage this would happen. But after
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the bleach was found, it was just a matter of time.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to Claire kill at a KMOV. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: in the case of the missing Saint Louis County woman
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Rothwell, just hours ago police confirmed to us a
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: body found near Troy, Missouri, has been positively identified as
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: her remains. Her husband, Bo Rothwell, contacted police Monday, offering
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to help direct them to the buy. Officers returned to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Highway sixty one year Troy yesterday to look for additional evidence.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Friends of the couple just like police searching for answers. Actually,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I thought he was a really easy going, kind of
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: soft spoken guy. Even playing sports like racketball. You know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I'd be really aggressive and he'd be kind of laid back.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And her husband, Bo Rothwell, is currently charged with second
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: degree murder. Wow. Bo Rothwell, also aged twenty eight, now
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: charged with murder two and the death of his wife,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Rothwell. I can say this much, Jason Oceans and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: New York defense attorney, he'd better have a deal in place.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: What does he think leading them to her dead body's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: going to get him a gold star at sentencing. Otherwise
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: he's going down for life life with that parole. Well,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that could have also been negotiated with counsel at that
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: point in terms of directing them where it was. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: don't know. It sounds like he called police and volunteered
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: to take them to the body. I'd like more background
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: on that, relatively, but that's something generally counsel might negotiate
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: at that particular point looking at all the evidence ahead
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: of you. But you're right, he probably might be looking
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for the gold store, or you know, maybe they are
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: further aggravated circumstances unknown at the moment. So you know,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and as the doctor said, sometimes you're in a normal
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: routine and then jump out of it, you know, mild
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: mannered and laid back, and then you know, seemingly now
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: confessing to the murder of his wife. So you can
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: deviate from pattern. Well yeah, and that's that's a tricky
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: thing right there, confessing to the murder. What he did
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: was lead them to the body. To doctor Kennel Crown's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Deputy medical Examiner, Travis County, Texas, her body has been
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: in the elements for several days, about an hour away.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: At first he was only charged with tampering with evidence,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: but now murder two what can they hope? First of all,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: they've got to identify her body, and having been out
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: in the elements, what would her body how far would
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the decomposure have gone. So decomposure is reliant on environmental
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: conditions for it to progress. So usually in cold environments
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the body will stay relatively intact for quite a while.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen it before in very cold environments where they
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: will still look perfectly normally set. They are frozen solid.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: So she could still be very intact because of the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: weather conditions of where they're in Saint Louis at the time. Well,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: we know a body found in Missouri positively identified as
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the missing twenty eight year old chemical engineer Jennifer Rothwell.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: It was found Monday night, about forty five miles away
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: from the home she shared with her young husband, Bo Rothwell.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: We know that he led them to the body and
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the day before, which is going to be a killer
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: for him, as showing premeditation. At least twenty four hours ahead,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: he spotted on video buying cleaning products at a local store.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Detective search the home find wet carpet soaked with bleach
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and large areas of blood. Back to you, Doctor Kendall
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Crown's Deputy Medical Examiner, Travis County, Texas, Austin. What a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't know is that bleach does not
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: totally degrade DNA. You need something like a muriatic acid
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: at best to totally get rid of DNA. That's very true.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you just buy your standard chlorine bleach,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: it won't disrupt the humoglobin and it can still be found.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: You got to buy something that has an oxidizer in it,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like hydrogen peroxide or something like that that'll bust it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: up a little bit better and he might not be
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: able to find the DNA then, but not a lot
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of people know that, you know. I wonder what was
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: going on in that marriage. I wonder what his job
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: was and how he felt he compared to her, who
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: is not only just beautiful but also a brainy at
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: with an awesome job. We do know that he led
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: police to her body about forty five miles northwest of
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: her home. Now question to you, Jason Oshans again, I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: noticed this in the Scott Peterson casey many many others.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: He was a fisher, So where did he dun't lace
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: his body? San Francisco Bay where he went fishing all
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the time. I wonder if there's a connection between husband
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: bo Rothwell and this location Troy, Missouri where her body
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: was found. Well again, very accurate, Nancy. Generally people humans
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: go where you know, mammals go where they know, you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: they operate in a range, and where you think someone
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't know that you're familiar with. You know. Generally, those
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: are the places that you will, you know, if you're
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: encountering a criminal act and there's something to recover, those
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: are generally the known areas that someone has been tracking
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: someone's past locations through their GPS on the phone. So
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that's the methodology. And you know, to doctor Debbie Joffe Ellis,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: psychologist at Professor Columbia University, he was thorough. If nothing else,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: he bought cleaning products including bleach, carpet cleaner, and gloves
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a court. And we've learned this from the probable cause
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: affidavit in the search warrant and the arrest warrant. So
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it's when you look at him, it's hard to fathom
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: how he could so systematically but yet diabolically plan the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: cleanup of his wife's body and blood. I mean, I
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: wonder if she was even alive at that time, because
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: he's the only one that spotted her leaving the home
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: that morning to go to work. And if he was
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: already at the store getting carpet cleaner, why would he
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: do that. If he did, if she wasn't already, her
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: blood had already soaked the carpet. So how do you
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: explain psychologically someone who's doing a diabolical deed but is
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: perfectly sane. Well, someone who does such a deed, according
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to psychological linguistics, is not perfectly sane. They may be
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: acting with clarity and determination and be lucid and sound charming,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: but according to my definition of sanity, that's not it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: To me. Sanity in a healthy human being, healthy cognitive
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: human being is the ability to pause, reflect, and choose
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the way of least harm. And clearly that wasn't his tendency.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: It sounds like he possibly get I don't know for sure,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: not having spoken to him, but highly possible. He's a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: sociopath with no sense of guilt, conscious morality, a certain
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: seth way of thinking. To we chief, the well under
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the law, Insanity is not knowing the difference between right
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and wrong at the time of the incident. And with
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: this methodical planning, they cover up after wasting time seven
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: hours before reporting her missing, cleaning up the home, purchasing
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: all of the items ahead of time, that is what
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: we call them the law premeditation, then lying about it,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: even begging for the public's help, shows entirely lucid functioning
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: adult male. We wait as justice unfolds Nancy Gray's crime story,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,