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- 0:07[SPEAKER_03]: You are listening to the Indie car report with Elijah Poe, only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
- 0:13[SPEAKER_03]: This episode we're reacting to the Freedom 250 and Washington B.C.
- 0:18[SPEAKER_03]: a special event.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_03]: Can't wait to hear from Elijah and our guest Michelle Garment.
- 0:24[SPEAKER_03]: And we're hoping to hear from Dave Chandler.
- 0:32[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Indie Car Report with Elijah Poe.
- 0:34[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Elijah Poe, join here with Greg and Michelle.
- 0:37[SPEAKER_02]: After I have to admit guys, one of the most surreal Indie Car races I have watched in a long, long time.
- 0:43[SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait to hear your thoughts and I'll kick it to Michelle on what was just a spectacular day in the streets of BC.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_00]: This was your right, Elijah.
- 0:52[SPEAKER_00]: It was a spectacular day.
- 0:54[SPEAKER_00]: It was a spectacular race.
- 0:55[SPEAKER_00]: And they know how Kirkwood dominated it.
- 0:59[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it doesn't matter.
- 1:01[SPEAKER_00]: I think this race was maybe, any 500 had the greatest finish this year.
- 1:08[SPEAKER_00]: But I really think this may be the greatest race in terms of pre-race, pageantry.
- 1:16[SPEAKER_00]: And just the significance
- 1:19[SPEAKER_00]: the views.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_00]: They're running around that race course.
- 1:23[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of fantastic views.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_00]: And thank you, Fox, for all of the great cameras and camera angles for so we could enjoy it.
- 1:31[SPEAKER_00]: Those of us not there in person.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_00]: And the crowds were just spectacular.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't really...
- 1:40[SPEAKER_00]: I said in our group text that I had tears in my eyes at the end, and I did, I think just because of the venue, the pageantry, and the fact, you know, it was fitting that the best racing family in America, the Andretis, their car, one.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_00]: the Freedom 250 and the American Driver Kyle Kirkwood was the winning driver.
- 2:11[SPEAKER_00]: I said all along, I said it in the Indie car report.
- 2:14[SPEAKER_00]: I did not say that an American couldn't win and there are some great drivers out there.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought it would be extra special if an American won this race and be extra special to the driver who did it, especially the team who and the team as well, if they were American and so what a great day, what a, and it was a memorable event in race for the Andretis and Calquerquay.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_02]: And we're now joined by Dave.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_02]: Dave Chandley, who was going to give us some thoughts on, I mean, what was just a fantastic day.
- 2:49[SPEAKER_02]: And just one of the honestly the coolest races I've seen Indie Carr ever put on.
- 2:54[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of the greatest shows we've seen.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_01]: I think first of all, Kudos to Fox.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_01]: They did a fabulous job with the pre-race, the race, all the turns, the competition.
- 3:07[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to say hats off to them.
- 3:10[SPEAKER_01]: But this was Kyle Kirkwood's race.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_01]: He dominated from start to finish.
- 3:15[SPEAKER_01]: He actually did, you know, he'd missed by one spot of winning the poll.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_00]: uh... just and dreaded global wow just a great day and a great day for the united states just to put this on and how about the weather the further weather to be spectacular no rain sunny it is a perfect day and one other thing i think it was really cool of mario and dreaded was there and was on calcourt's box today
- 3:49[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't get any better than that.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_01]: Mario was there and wow.
- 3:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think everybody, I think the team said it's the best there that Mario's just one of the greatest guys.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, going alongside that, obviously it's great to have Mario there, and I think really what we saw today from Kyle Kirkwood was what we've been wanting to see all season.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you talk about just an absolute stud of a drive.
- 4:16[SPEAKER_02]: It was pretty much perfect, and even though you had those restarts, I don't see thought it's got my glove and could have caught him on that second to last restart, but obviously he'd been in the wall.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the way he was able to avoid that contact.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_02]: and that last restart.
- 4:29[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he just absolutely put the pedal to the metal and was gone.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say this for Scotty Mack.
- 4:38[SPEAKER_01]: That was his shot.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_01]: He took it.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody would have done the same thing.
- 4:45[SPEAKER_02]: We just lost Dave there for a second.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_02]: He was talking up on Scotty Mack's move on Kyle Kirkwood, but I'm going to pass it to Greg for his thoughts on what was just a great day for any car.
- 4:56[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the way that Kirk would just kind of let him go.
- 4:58[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if Kirk was thinking, there's no way he's doing this and just kind of let him go there or didn't have a choice, but good move by Kirk would kind of a race winning move to just kind of let him go there.
- 5:11[SPEAKER_03]: And it's hard to kind of hard to blame a guy for making the move there.
- 5:15[SPEAKER_03]: That's where people were making their passes all day.
- 5:18[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't blame Scotty Mack at all for making that move.
- 5:24[SPEAKER_02]: No, and I honestly think leading down it looks like he maybe could have pulled that off.
- 5:28[SPEAKER_02]: He got such a good start on that jump that Kirkwood had on that restart and coming down.
- 5:34[SPEAKER_02]: It looked like it might have had his opportunity and credit to Scotty Mac for just even being up there.
- 5:39[SPEAKER_02]: The Chevy's all day.
- 5:41[SPEAKER_02]: It's just uncomparable to what those Honda power units were able to do, even though Loone Guard was able to finish in second.
- 5:48[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was his one and only chance, and even though there was, I think, 15 laps left.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_02]: If you're race driver and you've seen opportunity to get in first place, you got to take it.
- 5:57[SPEAKER_00]: Give Scotty Matt credit, because...
- 5:59[SPEAKER_00]: when they interviewed him after that, you know, he said he felt like he had to go for it because it might be his own opportunity.
- 6:06[SPEAKER_00]: He said he knew his tires were a little sorely on the warm-up lap and so I think I think had it not been so late in the race and knowing that that might be his final, probably it was going to be the final opportunity to pass Kirkwood.
- 6:20[SPEAKER_00]: He took it and I think you're right.
- 6:21[SPEAKER_00]: I think he had to take it.
- 6:25[SPEAKER_03]: I think the focus coming away from this is how good Kyle Kirkwood was and unfortunately towns and bell kept saying championship implications and I just think that's utterly ridiculous.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_03]: We need to just stop talking about the championship unless things just go horribly wrong over these final three races, I'll close winning again, but I think he has a competitor for next year maybe now.
- 6:52[SPEAKER_02]: I think the point's gap is now like around 95 or somewhere around there.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just honestly not sure why the indie car booth kind of pushes the championship points narrative kind of weakened and weak out.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_02]: I understand, you know, you want to have those viewers entertained, but I would argue what's on screen is entertaining enough.
- 7:14[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we can celebrate how great Polo is without worrying about what's it going to look like by the time the end of the season comes down.
- 7:22[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think it's just for viewers.
- 7:23[SPEAKER_00]: I really think it's for viewership because they might have had some new viewers tune in because of this race and where it was being held.
- 7:32[SPEAKER_00]: I know they did because I saw a couple of tweets of guys like saying, well, I thought there were like supposed to be like 35 drivers, which tells you, they watch the 85 100.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_00]: I don't watch.
- 7:43[SPEAKER_00]: So I think by doing that, they're trying to get any first time viewers that were tuning in.
- 7:50[SPEAKER_00]: to maybe want to continue to watch the next, you know, the final three races.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_03]: You don't want to lie to people.
- 7:56[SPEAKER_03]: There's no championship race going on right now.
- 7:58[SPEAKER_00]: There's just no, but they're what, I mean, let's face it.
- 8:02[SPEAKER_00]: The numbers and the numbers have been pretty good.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_00]: I will be really interested to see what the viewing numbers and ratings were for this race.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_00]: I would hope that it was that they are really good, but I agree.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's close.
- 8:15[SPEAKER_00]: It's his championship.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_00]: Three races left.
- 8:18[SPEAKER_00]: Two of them on the oval and let's be honest.
- 8:21[SPEAKER_00]: Kirkwood has not performed great on the ovals this year.
- 8:24[SPEAKER_00]: So he's the only guy that would have a chance at catching Polo.
- 8:28[SPEAKER_00]: And I really think the only way he can is if something would happen Polo would suffer some kind of illness or heaven forbid being an accident that he'd have to sit the final three races of the season and not be able to even make the start.
- 8:44[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to take a quick break.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to try to get Dave Chandley back on here.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_03]: He is a
- 8:50[SPEAKER_03]: at a place where he's having some internet issues, so we're hoping to get him back, but if not, Elijah, Michelle and I will finish our recap here of the great event today in Washington DC.
- 9:10[SPEAKER_02]: And now we're looking at the results here and we still have no Dave Taneley still trying to work on him getting back here, having some connectivity issues, but for second place we have Chris and Lungard and third place in Willpower, Michelle, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on just another solid result for those two drivers.
- 9:26[SPEAKER_00]: One guard has been really good on the road and the street course is in another really strong performance today.
- 9:35[SPEAKER_00]: Willpower is he got off to a very rocky start with Andrade, but boy has he really putting a strong finish together for.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_00]: Um, has seen his first year under, or his first year of driving for and Dretty.
- 9:51[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought two really good races by both of those drivers.
- 9:54[SPEAKER_00]: Kirk would just was, he really had the better car all day long.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_03]: I've been saying on this show for a year and a half Elijah, I thought will power was done.
- 10:05[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he just was no longer competitive and the whole will power thing was over.
- 10:10[SPEAKER_03]: And I was wrong.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_03]: He's at a really nice
- 10:14[SPEAKER_02]: And I honestly think Andready is in a better position.
- 10:17[SPEAKER_02]: They are right now than they were last year.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_02]: I think that whole team has just gone really, really strong over this year.
- 10:23[SPEAKER_02]: First, third and fourth place today for Andready.
- 10:27[SPEAKER_02]: We know it's a street course where they're strong, but man, those cars really did look good.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_02]: And I think one of the most surprising results of the day is Young Kiffin Simpson.
- 10:35[SPEAKER_02]: How about a fifth place result for him?
- 10:37[SPEAKER_02]: Woo.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I was driving for the nasty today.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_03]: Simpsons and antsy go both had really nice days today.
- 10:46[SPEAKER_03]: They're, they're, they're proven me wrong too.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_02]: And if I think this is big for them, especially to close out their season where they're not exactly sure where they're going to fit contractually wise, what team they're going to be racing for, so I think just these results for both these drivers is so so pivotal.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad they're we're getting some young drivers kind of fighting in the mix.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_02]: And a very crazy race where a lot of mistakes were made, you know, there's even mistakes made by Alex Blow never makes mistakes to see two working drivers up there is impressive.
- 11:16[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought the three rookies collect how your shoe marker has their own little nice little battle going all day as well kind of there from anywhere from eight to like 16 place or whatever and that rookie race points race has been kind of tight and all three of those guys I thought did a very.
- 11:39[SPEAKER_00]: good job today of staying out of trouble and collect was finally able to really finish a race I didn't have any bad luck on his part which is which is good and I felt the three they had to be very happy with their performances today and I think their race teams had to be happy with their performances today.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_02]: heard Alexander Rossi talking before this week that you know any car goes to these newer track none of these veterans have this former track knowledge so kind of levels the playing field I think we've seen this last two weeks with the new race in Markham and a new race in D.C. or some of these younger drivers are kind of showing what they're worth they don't have maybe the experience on
- 12:21[SPEAKER_02]: on the returning tracks like the any car classics that we see every year but you get them in a new brand new course and they can really can be so super impressed by them today.
- 12:34[SPEAKER_02]: And moving on, I think we all were texting about this.
- 12:37[SPEAKER_02]: One of the most bone-headed moves I've ever seen a really, really talented driver in Marcus Armstrong make.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_02]: One of the most daring overtakes I've ever seen kind of sweeping across the track in front of three drivers and just absolutely causing a crash fest.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_02]: I know we were texting about that, but very unlikely and very uncanny from a very talented driver.
- 12:59[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, the sad part was he took out that, that move took out Rhina's VK who was having a good day, and who has been really very strong here down the last few races, and, you know, you just hate to see that, because he was a contender today.
- 13:17[SPEAKER_03]: It's always one of the most bonehead moves I've ever seen.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_03]: It just was, there was no reason for it.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_03]: It couldn't have worked.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_03]: No way it was working.
- 13:27[SPEAKER_00]: No, and we're talking, there was still a lot, a lot of racing left.
- 13:33[SPEAKER_00]: If you're thinking of a risk and I've got to make a move, it was too early in the race.
- 13:37[SPEAKER_00]: That move wasn't never going to decide the race, except it did decide the finish for Rina's VK, and who is it just the total limits of victim?
- 13:48[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a shame, you know, we've talked about Reyes V care.
- 13:50[SPEAKER_02]: I think honestly, the past four weekends, he's just been so, so impressive.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_02]: And to see Armstrong make a move like that, it's just, it's so odd.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the way indie car works, sometimes you can cause the accident, but you can be the one that ends up finishing in that Armstrong think the day in 17th.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_02]: And his teammate for Myershank just a very bad result with Felix Rosenquist down in 19th as well.
- 14:15[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and Rosenquist was in the race there for a little while, so he, I don't even know how he disappeared.
- 14:22[SPEAKER_02]: He was contact on a restart.
- 14:24[SPEAKER_02]: The same restart where Scotty Mack got caught up by that wall.
- 14:28[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
- 14:29[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
- 14:30[SPEAKER_02]: Just rough.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_02]: And you were used to seeing Felix really be competitive, especially on the streets.
- 14:35[SPEAKER_02]: I was he had a good result in Arlington, but a date to forget for Meyer Shank, that's for sure.
- 14:42[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I think because Lungard was so good for Arrow and Seagull had such a great day, the overlook Paddo Award, who was kind of solid, but like Dave mentioned in our get group text, he kind of made a mistake that you don't see him make kind of like Polo.
- 14:58[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when he went in too hard and had to go into the breaking link, turn around, that cost him, that cost him a top 10 finish or a chance or a top 10 finish.
- 15:09[SPEAKER_02]: And it's brutal to see this, this kind of happened to Paddo in a moment where if he's going to maybe get into that top three in the championship, you have to be delivering.
- 15:17[SPEAKER_02]: We know he's going to be very good at Milwaukee next weekend.
- 15:20[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a two two points double points for two races.
- 15:24[SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to have opportunities to score, but being at a brand new track, I thought and McLaren probably would have ran better than they did.
- 15:33[SPEAKER_02]: And I think those cars had a lot, a lot of power in it.
- 15:41[SPEAKER_02]: talk about another bone headed move something I've never seen from Alex Pelosi just a really weird race day for him obviously had a penalty drive through obviously was I had himself turned around in the middle of the track while hitting the tire barrier on a corner.
- 15:59[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a very odd race day for him, uh, but I would say he overall had a good week and obviously being on pole just couldn't convert it on Sunday, which is We're not using saying that.
- 16:10[SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_02]: But he got it.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_00]: It's like He got it all out in one race.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it clips a wall.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_00]: He spends has the pit penalty.
- 16:21[SPEAKER_00]: Then he has another, there's another issue in the pit that wasn't just
- 16:30[SPEAKER_00]: it wasn't his day you know at first I thought he was going to have some of that luck again because when he had that penalty and he had that drive through the net caution came back and it was like puts him back in contention so that's below's luck but then he did not have luck the rest of the day but I'll tell you what if this if you're going to have multiple things happen get them all out in one race he still finished it and he ended up finishing ahead of Scott he Mac because they got his car back out on
- 17:00[SPEAKER_00]: So he was able to still, you know, preserve some points, they'll put it behind him and they'll go to Milwaukee, they'll have the two ovules.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_00]: He's not necessarily great, super great on ovules, but he can win on ovules and I would expect him to have too strong, too good finishes and, you know, for hand right now, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it
- 17:22[SPEAKER_00]: for him and she has going after the wins, but just trying to do what you can to make sure that you start and finish races.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_03]: He would have to have a really, really, really bad weekend just to make the following finale weekend interesting it all as far as the championship goes.
- 17:40[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's no doubt.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's definitely locked it up.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a lot of people who are going to be in play next weekend and we'll be having a race on Saturday and Sunday.
- 17:49[SPEAKER_02]: But then again, you talk about the people in play and Alex Pose is always going to be one of them.
- 17:54[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if Joseph new garden can be a factor again.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_03]: It's been too long.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_03]: I know his injury is really lingered, but this is the kind of track that we might see some pensky winds over the weekend.
- 18:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and I have one last driver I'd like to talk about who I'm a little concerned about.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_02]: It was a pinsky driver is David Malucas today.
- 18:13[SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of an accident of his own own driving skill there.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_02]: That just went straight into the wall and was unfortunately hit by his thing very robin.
- 18:22[SPEAKER_02]: A little bit of scary accident.
- 18:24[SPEAKER_02]: TV-wise it looked really bad on camera, but luckily both were fine.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just a little bit concerned about Malucas's ability to
- 18:32[SPEAKER_02]: finish out this season.
- 18:33[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's he's had his ups and downs all year, but I think him specifically with being so young needs to finish very strong in these last three races.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, he gets a win this weekend.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_03]: I have a feeling he's going to get a win this weekend.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure his head is meant where he is mentally right now.
- 18:50[SPEAKER_00]: If you listen to his interview following that accident, he's, you know, he's got to get it cleaned up.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that
- 18:58[SPEAKER_00]: those kind of back to back disappointing finishes.
- 19:02[SPEAKER_00]: I think mentally you have affected his confidence level, which is sad because it shouldn't.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_00]: He's a good driver.
- 19:09[SPEAKER_00]: I know he had the close loss and maybe a little mistakes, but he's still young, he's learning each race and he should have no doubts about his driving ability and just keep grinding.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_00]: I hope he does well this weekend.
- 19:24[SPEAKER_00]: for him, I'm pretty sure his scene is secure at Penske so he just needs to go out and probably finish well and finish strong for himself mentally heading into the offseason before next race he's in starts.
- 19:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, couldn't have said it better and really excited for a double race weekend in Milwaukee with a race on Saturday and Sunday race on Saturday coming at 230 in the race on Sunday at 1 o'clock.
- 19:52[SPEAKER_02]: It should be a very jam-packed week and all fine format Elijah.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_02]: The qualifying is going to be at 11 a.m. just before a couple hours before that first race.
- 20:04[SPEAKER_02]: So really keep an eye on qualifying it.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_02]: If you have somebody crashed, it could really really be impactful for not only that first race, but the whole weekend.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_03]: Of course Milwaukee, the only race course older than the Indian Apple smoke motor speedway.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_03]: So that in itself makes it tradition and it's just a great race course.
- 20:24[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the mile, right?
- 20:25[SPEAKER_00]: Milwaukee miles, there's only a one mile oval, which is when you're going in the speeds that these helicopters can go it, can make for some exciting racing.
- 20:35[SPEAKER_03]: And I know they've added some banking to it, but still I think the flatest oval on the circuit election.
- 20:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, very flat.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_02]: It really does kind of drive like a road course, but those straights.
- 20:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's really provided one of the most entertaining watches of the year, the last couple of years, the ending cars been there.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, other than the 500, for talking ovals, I think it's probably the best they go to.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for joining the Indie Car Report.
- 21:06[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much, Greg and Michelle, and even though we lost Dave, thank you for the couple minutes there.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_02]: He was able to get in, and I'm sure he'll be joining us throughout the week as we preview Milwaukee Mile, and we're sure being an awesome weekend before we get into an absolutely jam packed weekend.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_02]: Before we hit the stretch of the Indie Car season, thank you so much, guys.
- 21:25[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry Dave, Chandler, fans, he will be back for the Indie Car Report this week.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks, Elijah.
- 21:32[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, sir.
- 21:34[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
- 21:49[SPEAKER_03]: The Central and Amosport Report is a product of ITG media, and I love Susie.