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Lala Kent Tells All Vanderpump Rules, Cheating, and Affairs · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 5: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I've returned Juicy Scoop favorite.
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  Speaker 3: Lala Kent. Wow, this is the juiciest time in reality
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  Speaker 3: show history. I have you here, fresh off.
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  Speaker 5: The party of the year, Ocean's two-year-old birthday party at
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  Speaker 5: Bounce and Ball in Encino.
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  Speaker 4: Ball and Bounce.
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  Speaker 3: Ball and Bounce.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so grateful that you came, because it's not like
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  Speaker 4: you have kids. You didn't need to come, but I
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  Speaker 4: was really thankful that you did. You make a party.
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  Speaker 4: You get that right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you had two guys singing some really great tunes.
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  Speaker 3: We were rocking out. All the other Vanderpump babies were there.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Cruz, Hartford, Summer, Dressed as Boo.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: And then, of course, your daughter Ocean was just a
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  Speaker 5: very gracious host and had the best time and loved
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  Speaker 5: every minute.
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  Speaker 4: She's a very happy child.
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  Speaker 3: She really is.
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  Speaker 4: She's like a magical human.
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  Speaker 3: She really, she's.
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  Speaker 5: Really cute and very like, yeah, it was great. But
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  Speaker 5: then last night was the greatest night of my life
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  Speaker 5: because it was Vanderpump is on every Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: We're recording this and here we go.
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  Speaker 5: We watched the episode and everything Eddie Cohen said, everything
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  Speaker 5: you told me, you kept saying, it's a coming.
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  Speaker 3: I can't tell you anything. It's a coming.
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  Speaker 5: And we watched it. And, uh, Lala, Cleo, what's that
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  Speaker 5: lady that's the psychic?
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  Speaker 4: Lady Cleo? Oh, with the ball?
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  Speaker 3: With the ball, yeah. Miss Cleo.
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  Speaker 4: Miss Cleo, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. I thought I was a great predictor, but I
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  Speaker 3: think you have an incredible judge of character now, even
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  Speaker 3: more so, because I think that from what you've been through,
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  Speaker 3: it's like your antennas are maybe up.
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  Speaker 5: I think you understand women really well. And in it,
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  Speaker 5: you are like, like you want to be Raquel's friend,
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  Speaker 5: but you're like, whoa.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I was watching the way that she was moving and
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  Speaker 4: I just felt like this seems to be a red flag.
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  Speaker 4: And you're going to see. It gets crazier.
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  Speaker 5: So what we see last night is you guys go
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  Speaker 5: to Vegas for the opening of the Paris Vanderpump restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And you guys are all being real girly, friendly. Everybody's
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  Speaker 5: getting along. And it's Katie, you, Raquel, and Christina.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. Ariana ended up going home because her.
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  Speaker 3: Dog passed away.
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  Speaker 5: She had to go home right away because the dog
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  Speaker 5: was sick. She's gone within, like, an hour of getting
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  Speaker 5: into the hotel room.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 5: So you guys go down there, and that's where you
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  Speaker 5: meet Oliver Garcelle's son, who's working there. And, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: face-wise and charming-wise, he's kind of your type right now.
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  Speaker 3: Totally.
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  Speaker 4: And everyone kept asking me, like, how did you know
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  Speaker 4: Oliver before? Like, you say you had a crush on
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  Speaker 4: him for a long time. Yeah. I couldn't on camera
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  Speaker 4: say I know him because I watch Real Housewives of
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  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. That's how I know him.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: The only way I know him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a fan. So that's actually how I know that
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  Speaker 4: Oliver exists is I obviously watch Real Housewives of Beverly
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  Speaker 4: Hills and I've seen him appear.
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  Speaker 3: So you're like, he's cute and everything.
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  Speaker 5: Now you say, you guys invite him to the next spot,
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  Speaker 5: Disco Pussy or what's it called?
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  Speaker 4: Disco Pussy.
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  Speaker 3: And like, so he comes there and now.
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  Speaker 3: Um, you find out from him, he says, I am separated.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Which is a, is a trigger for me because
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  Speaker 4: I've been told that someone separated before and it was
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  Speaker 4: a lie. And I had a baby with that person
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  Speaker 4: in my whole life was a lie. Right. So that
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  Speaker 4: was a trigger for me, but I didn't feel that
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  Speaker 4: it was a red flag in the sense that we're
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  Speaker 4: filming a television show. So if you're not really separated,
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  Speaker 4: why would you say that you are when we have
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  Speaker 4: a crew here, like this is going to air tomorrow. nationwide.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This is not what stays in Vegas. What happens in
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  Speaker 3: Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in Vegas is on
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  Speaker 3: Bravo and going to be in 12,000 countries or whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 4: Correct. And he was telling me, yeah, we're just trying
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  Speaker 4: to find the ground, the grounding for, um, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the bouncing the kid back and forth.
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  Speaker 3: I share one child with my ex.
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  Speaker 4: Correct. And I was like, oh my gosh, like I'm
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  Speaker 4: in the same situation. I feel for you. I was
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  Speaker 4: enjoying the conversation. I didn't feel that I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: like do anything fun with him. Right. You know, there
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  Speaker 4: was a point in time like he walked in, we
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  Speaker 4: start talking. I was like, this is not the person
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  Speaker 4: that I'm going to take.
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  Speaker 3: But also I've had the pleasure of, listen, I've been
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  Speaker 3: married 22 years. I love having a single friend. I
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  Speaker 3: like to live vicariously. But you are.
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  Speaker 5: Notorious now because there's been a few incidents where you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: it's on.
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  Speaker 4: It's popping.
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  Speaker 3: It's popping.
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  Speaker 4: I'll talk.
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  Speaker 3: And then something happens and you're like, um. Like when
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  Speaker 3: we were in New York and you're like, oh, it's popping.
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  Speaker 4: You leave.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I cannot wait to get the scoop from Lala.
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  Speaker 3: She's going to this like hot basketball player's house that she's.
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  Speaker 5: Been seeing and da da da. And I'm like, give
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  Speaker 5: me it all, girl. I'm in my bed with a
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  Speaker 5: cup of coffee. I'm like ready to get details. And
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  Speaker 5: you're like, um, the Uber got about like half a
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  Speaker 5: mile from his house.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, no. Turned around and went home.
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  Speaker 4: But I did hook up with that guy the last
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  Speaker 4: time I was in New York.
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  Speaker 3: Good for you.
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  Speaker 4: So we made up for it.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to hear about that.
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  Speaker 4: So, yes. So, I'm big talk.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: One thing can make it go from it's on and
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  Speaker 4: popping to no thanks, cookie clothes, going to bed. Um.
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  Speaker 4: And so Raquel starts telling me that she is interested
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  Speaker 4: in him. Yeah. Again, yes, the separated thing triggered me,
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  Speaker 4: but I didn't think it was a red flag. I
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  Speaker 4: knew I wasn't going to hook up with him. She
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  Speaker 4: was like, I think he's cute too, though.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So you do her so well.
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  Speaker 5: I forgot that I did. So I did an impression
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  Speaker 5: of Raquel the first reunion.
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  Speaker 4: In the polyester puff. Yes. And then when I match,
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  Speaker 4: she's melting, babe. melting to the ground.
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  Speaker 5: Where she was just like I was like is she
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  Speaker 5: that you know we'll get into it she's the dumbest
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  Speaker 5: or the smartest girl in the world or a little
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  Speaker 5: of both but anyway and so I reposted that because
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  Speaker 5: everybody now is seeing old episodes and everyone's going back
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  Speaker 5: and um you know it truly is like the sixth
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  Speaker 5: sense when you know once you know the ending of
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  Speaker 5: the movie you go back and you're like oh my
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  Speaker 5: gosh nobody is directly talking to Bruce Willis like it's
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  Speaker 5: like You know, so you're like, okay, now, so everyone's
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  Speaker 5: going back. Bravo's making it really easy for the fans
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  Speaker 5: to watch it. Everyone's like, thank God there's reruns of
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  Speaker 5: Vanderpump and not Below Deck because everyone complains that they
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  Speaker 5: replay Below Deck too often.
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  Speaker 4: They do play that a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you can see on Peacock and everything. So she
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  Speaker 3: goes for it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But you're like, who cares because you weren't into it. Right.
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  Speaker 3: But now in retrospect.
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  Speaker 5: It's very weird that later on her competition comes out
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  Speaker 5: with you and this gets brought up at the next spot,
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  Speaker 5: which is the dinner in Havasu.
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  Speaker 3: And she's like, yeah, he chose me, Lala. And you're like,
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  Speaker 3: we weren't in competition. And I'm like, okay, pageant girl,
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  Speaker 3: you are a pageant girl.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was like taking a hit of acid. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I don't know how to break this down
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  Speaker 4: for you. This is not about Oliver. This is about
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  Speaker 4: you calling me a mistress again. So when you don't
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  Speaker 4: know anything about my situation, shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 3: So wait, let's just go back. So now you go
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  Speaker 3: back to the hotel. Of course you're sober.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Katie drinks, but nobody else is drunk.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know, um, so she didn't drink. I wasn't drinking. Katie,
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  Speaker 4: Katie handles her alcohol really well. Fine.
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  Speaker 5: So everyone's just like normal, but you know, um, Raquel
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  Speaker 5: after her make out with Oliver on the dance floor
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  Speaker 5: which is so cringy and gross like I almost puked
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  Speaker 5: and then can I just.
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  Speaker 4: Explain to you what that what Disco Pussy was like
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  Speaker 4: the way they make it look on camera was not
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  Speaker 4: how it was okay Disco Pussy was full of people
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  Speaker 4: that I can't even explain the music it was just
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of like loud noises that I can't even
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  Speaker 4: explain it was like drums then like zinging it was
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  Speaker 4: so like you couldn't even dance to it So it
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  Speaker 4: was a bunch of, like, zombies who had obviously taken something.
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  Speaker 4: They're there by themselves. They're on the dance floor with, like,
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  Speaker 4: lights in front of their eyes by themselves. It was
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  Speaker 4: not some, like, pop in place. It was people that
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  Speaker 4: went there to, like, get stimulated and be whatever drug
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  Speaker 4: they were on.
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  Speaker 5: Well, this episode was a weekend of non-popping places, okay?
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  Speaker 5: So then, so you go back to the hotel and
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  Speaker 5: you guys are just, like, being girls and.
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  Speaker 3: She comes around and she's buzzed and she's like, I
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  Speaker 3: know that you aren't supposed to put aluminum foil in
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  Speaker 3: the microwave, but I think plastic is fine. And you're like, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Like, that's where I'm just like, you are 28. Like,
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  Speaker 5: let's all remind ourselves she's 28.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: So she's there.
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  Speaker 5: And this is where you have the conversation about where
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  Speaker 5: she says, and you go, I got to be honest. Like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that I'm so comfortable with. with you
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  Speaker 5: after a few drinks hanging around with my man. And
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  Speaker 5: she's like, well, it's good that you don't have a
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  Speaker 5: man then for me to take.
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  Speaker 4: I was flabbergasted. I could not believe. And the second
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  Speaker 4: it came out of her mouth, you could tell it
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  Speaker 4: was immediate regret on her face.
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  Speaker 3: The truth comes out when you drink.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I disagree with that. Okay. Maybe with some people,
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  Speaker 4: with me, I was out and I would constantly tell
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  Speaker 4: everyone they were super pretty and I wanted to hang out,
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  Speaker 4: would exchange phone numbers, never to see this person ever again.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's different.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I think being lovey-dovey when you're buzzed or making plans
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  Speaker 3: with people and then you never call them back, that's
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  Speaker 3: a different thing. I'm talking like your real character or
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  Speaker 3: what you might really think of somebody. Like if you've ever.
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  Speaker 5: you know, gotten really drunk and, or someone's gotten really
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  Speaker 5: drunk and said something like, well, you, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: then they say something that like really cuts below the soul.
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  Speaker 5: And the next morning you wake up and you're like,
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  Speaker 5: I think that's how you really feel about me.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 5: I think sometimes after drinks, something, but I also don't
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  Speaker 5: think she was that incredibly wasted either.
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  Speaker 4: She claims the next morning she doesn't remember what she said.
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  Speaker 3: I don't totally believe that, but whatever. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And, It's it's interesting because if we didn't know what
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  Speaker 4: we know now.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The audience would be torn because you do see us
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  Speaker 4: laughing and making fun of her.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And she's like curled around the corner. It's like out
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  Speaker 3: of like a Brady Bunch episode. Yeah. And if we
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  Speaker 3: didn't know what we knew. Right. Like if this hadn't broken.
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  Speaker 4: The audience would be torn.
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  Speaker 3: I think you'd be getting some shit today.
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  Speaker 5: And a little bit like you're the mean girls that
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  Speaker 5: invited the dork to the slumber party.
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  Speaker 4: But by the way, we were having so much fun
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  Speaker 4: when she got back. Where I drew the line was
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  Speaker 4: when she spilled a plate of food on my floor
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  Speaker 4: where I'm going to sleep in that bedroom. I'm very
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  Speaker 4: weird about where I'm sleeping.
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  Speaker 3: Also, smell of food.
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  Speaker 4: The smell of food. Then she got marinara sauce on
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  Speaker 4: the blanket that my mom just washed for me before
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  Speaker 4: the trip. It was like, enough already. I've had enough.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, sloppy, go to bed.
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  Speaker 4: Sloppy, go to bed. Then she delivers the line. It
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  Speaker 4: was like, it's 3 o'clock in the morning. You're wasted.
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  Speaker 4: I'm feeling myself go to a place that I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Because this year, I really, just with everything I've been through,
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  Speaker 4: I really want to pick my battles. I don't love
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  Speaker 4: who I've been in the past. Yes, is it who
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  Speaker 4: I am? Yeah, obviously. It's in me. But there's certain
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  Speaker 4: things I want to work on.
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  Speaker 3: And I was trying.
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  Speaker 4: So when she delivered that line, I wanted to chop
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  Speaker 4: her fucking head off. Right. But I didn't. I drew
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  Speaker 4: the line, said, remove yourself. We'll deal with this when
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  Speaker 4: you've sobered up. And it just kept getting, she wouldn't,
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  Speaker 4: she wouldn't let it rest.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone said she's found her voice. I took it as
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  Speaker 4: this girl is not OK and she has lost her mind.
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  Speaker 4: Like this is where someone needs to step in and
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  Speaker 4: help this girl. Right.
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  Speaker 5: So then you get in the car and you start
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  Speaker 5: driving to Havasu. And she kind of has a breakdown
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  Speaker 5: in which she reveals that the one of the last
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  Speaker 5: times they got that she and James were together was Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 5: And he was very cruel to her family, which.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, not funny.
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  Speaker 5: But, like, it was awful, according to her, and we
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  Speaker 5: don't know if this is true because there's no witnesses,
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  Speaker 5: there were no cameras, but what he says is, like,
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  Speaker 5: an awful thing about her dad only being with her
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  Speaker 5: mom because, you know, he does not love with her
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  Speaker 5: and her mom is old and fat.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like.
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  Speaker 5: And then they show a picture of the family, which
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  Speaker 5: is a very nice-looking family, but I was like, I would.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Out of all the regrets, and she should have a lot,
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  Speaker 5: if I was Raquel, that would be one of them
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  Speaker 5: that I said on camera.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have never shared that.
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  Speaker 5: Because I'm like, that is just so embarrassing to your parents,
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  Speaker 5: to your family, to everything.
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  Speaker 3: Like, we didn't need to know that part. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: have said that.
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  Speaker 5: She could have just been like, you know, he cut
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  Speaker 5: below the belt and he said awful things about my
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  Speaker 5: family and that's where I knew I couldn't go on. Like,
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  Speaker 5: are you not thinking at... I mean, I know the
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  Speaker 5: cameras are there, but you guys are... She said it.
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  Speaker 3: In a confessional.
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  Speaker 4: In a confessional.
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  Speaker 5: So I feel like it's not on the fly. You
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  Speaker 5: have a minute to think your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: There's many times when we're in confessionals and a producer
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  Speaker 4: will say like, can't you just tell us? And there
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  Speaker 4: are times where I sit there and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 4: this is all I'm willing to share. She does have
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  Speaker 4: the option to like not share the nitty gritty details
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  Speaker 4: about James body shaming her mom. Like, and I've met
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  Speaker 4: Raquel's parents and I had nothing but a pleasant experience
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  Speaker 4: with them. However, James did tell me that his mom,
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  Speaker 4: that Raquel's mom has called me some pretty nasty things.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not the biggest fan of this woman or
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  Speaker 4: this man anymore. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Got it. But still, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have done it, but if you want to
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  Speaker 4: put your mom on blast like that, go for it.
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  Speaker 3: But the intention was to put James in an awful light.
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  Speaker 4: No, instead I was cringing going, you're supposed to be
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  Speaker 4: the one to like, shut the.
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  Speaker 7: Fuck up about this.
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  Speaker 3: Right, exactly.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: So she has a little breakdown. You guys get to
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: have a sue.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: And.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: You go out to the dinner and like the stuff
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: is shocking what she says there.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: This is where you guys really kind of have it out.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: And you're at that point. What are you thinking?
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: Because at that point, she said she brings up the
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: fact like you're a hypocrite. You slept with James when
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: I was with him. And you're like, yeah, six years
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: ago and I came clean about it. And she's like, yeah,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: but you're also you were also the mistress. And you
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: went from a mansion to an apartment.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Charlie said that.
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, and Charlie came off awful.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: Charlie must be regretting this weekend and how she behaved.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of them are. I think
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: a lot of them are going to regret co-signing on
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: this person. I was a little bummed out by either
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Evolution or Bravo. Because my sobriety and my journey, I
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: don't know if they don't think it's interesting enough to cover.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they like me... Being on the
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: fence of is she a mistress or was she not
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: a mistress? I'm pretty over it. The reason I told
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Raquel that I hooked up with James is because that
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: was one of the moments that when I decided to
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: get sober and I had a sponsor that was on
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: my list of things that I have done in my
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: life while drinking that I am not proud of. Now,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: I didn't owe Raquel anything in the time I got sober.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: So I told my sponsor what happened and we put
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: it to bed. Cut to where we are now. We
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: started developing a friendship. I couldn't with a clear conscience
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: be her friend when I had this like secret. It
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: didn't feel good. So I just wanted to put it
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: You couldn't have a girlfriend that you lied to for
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: seven months straight.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: No, I couldn't. Oh, that's interesting.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: No, I couldn't.
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: I needed to tell her. And yes, it was six
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: years ago, but there's a lot of things I did
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: while I was drinking that I'm not proud of. Isn't it?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Is it an excuse? Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: No, it's not an excuse. This is Fact. I didn't
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: wake up one day and go, I had one bad night.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I'm getting sober. This was a plethora of bad decisions
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: that I've made in my time of drinking that led
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: me to not drinking anymore. And I hate that when
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I said I was drinking and she says I was
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: drinking that they cut out where I said, you're comparing
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: your actions to me, an alcoholic. So if you're comparing
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: your actions to mine, I suggest you look into your drinking.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I said that they chopped it out. Right. Um, And
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: then when she said you were with a married man,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: with the shit I've been through and the just amount
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: of lying that came with who Randall Emmett is, it, like,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: that word is so triggering.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Well, it's so insensitive because it's like your life was just,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: you know, you... I mean, what's so crazy about this
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: whole story is that I thought about it. And as
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: someone who's a fan of the show, I'm like, the
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: only time I felt this deceived for a friend is
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: with you and your fiance and Randall.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Like why I didn't believe it at first and everything.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Because I was like, no, no, no, no.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: And, you know, because that just wasn't what was presented
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: to any of us. And you're like, what kind of double, triple,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: quadruple life did this person that I was engaged to
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: go to marry, have a family with, be a stepmother
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: to his family, live in his house?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Like, it's just devastating.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: And I know that life is not cookie cutter and
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: things happen. Like, if I got involved with Randall and
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I knew that he was married and things just happened
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: the way they happen, I would have no problem saying,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: This is how it happened. And I'm sorry. I wish
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I could change it. But this is the story. And
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: now we're together and in love and had a baby.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Like I was so blindsided when I had that conversation
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: with Amber that like, yeah. Oh, that time. Yes, we
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: were married. Oh, the time he said he was going
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: away to do this, that and the other.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Because you and Amber, by the way, I thought it
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: was so lovely that Amber and the girls, her daughters,
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Ocean's sisters, all were there.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. At the party.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: And we're so lovely as sisters. And we're so into
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: playing with her and everything.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: It was really, really cute.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: You know, that was the first time I saw those
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: girls since I left a year and a half ago.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: That must be really hard. I mean, that is really
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: nice that you forming, you know, a nice friendship with
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Amber because, of course, it wasn't good in the beginning.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: No.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Because of all the deception that he told either one
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: of you. So now you know that, like, when he
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: was saying I was separated and all this stuff, he
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: was not.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: No. They were working on their marriage through January of 2017.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: You know, and when he told me, like, about how
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: he saw you at the restaurant and how he pursued
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: you and, you know, had this part in the movie
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: of the row and all that stuff, and he was like,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: you know, it was just really important, you know, that
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: it had to be secret on the show because even
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: though I was going through a divorce, it just didn't
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: look good.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: That I was going through a divorce.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: That's what he kept telling me, is I have kids
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: and I want... them to read things that, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I was fully divorced from their mother. I don't want
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: it to look a certain way, which by the way,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I respected that. I was like, absolutely.
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• 21:19
  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: filed against me.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved? He said,
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: I have a work dad. I need a home dad.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: go through.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: It's about what happens next. I decided to risk it all.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to pull punches.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: If there's kids involved and they're not mine, I will
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: respect your wishes. And keep in mind, it's not like
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Amber came out and was blasting like, hey, by the way,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: still married. Like, no one was saying anything. And I
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: for sure wasn't being kept a secret. I mean, he
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: was bringing me to Miami to meet his mom and dad.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: And what married man would be like, hey, mom and dad,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the wife's at home. I'd love you to meet my
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: new girlfriend. Like, it's just.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: So.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: They thought it was done with he and Amber, but
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: he was still like, Amber, we can make this work.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: And she was like, yes, let's try because we have
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: two kids together.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't even know because I don't believe a
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: word that he's ever said in his entire life. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: truly believe he would fall over dead if he were
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: to tell a truth. It's crazy. The smallest thing is
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: a lie.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I know. It's so insane.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Like even things that when you meet somebody that is
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: making up lies that don't have to be a lie.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Like you're like, why did you tell me you had
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: a bagel when you had a salad for lunch?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Like weird stuff.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: And there are people like that. It's just shocking. It's
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: so strange.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think, I think with, with what your
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: situation was, it was like, yeah. And you know, the
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: thing is separated is, You can date someone when they're separated.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Especially when you have money and you're married and there's
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: kids and it's California.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: And by the way.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: A divorce could take nine years.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: A regular, just a regular old divorce where there's no assets,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: no nothing.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: That takes years.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Six months. Six months. You have to wait for a
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: judge to even allow you to sign off.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: On a divorce.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: So I do think when somebody's like, you were dating
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: a married man and the person is no longer like
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: living with them or they're telling them they're not with them.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's a reasonable thing to believe because what
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: are you going to not?
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, if all of a sudden I was, like, separated,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: you think I would wait until the final to not ever, like,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: kiss someone or go out? No, of course. Like, so,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't think that's unheard of. But she
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: throws that in your face.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Which was, like, ruthless and weird.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Anyone who doesn't know my situation, you would never, no
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: one who knows my situation would ever call me that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: And I didn't need to explain it to her. Right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Because you're a low vibration person.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you said that. I wrote that down. I thought
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: that was pretty good.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: You don't get.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: You guys are too low vibration. Yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: They are. And I'm like, you don't need to break
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: down shit for me. I lived this moment. I lived
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: all of this. I'm still living it. So you don't
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: need to break down anything for me. Disengage. I'm fucking out.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I'm done.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: So then you guys go back to Havasu, the house
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: in Havasu. You all sleep. And she's like, You know what? Hi, guys.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I am not comfortable here. And actually, we're going to
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: go back to L.A. because there's going to be a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: guy's night with Schwartz. Looks at Katie. Katie's like, all right,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: you can go, weirdo. Like, what at this point? It's like,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: and also just so, besides now we know everything, but like,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: so then they get to the Mondriaan. And for someone
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: who has pursued acting, and I heard that Tom Sandoval,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: constantly a casting director, put something out that how many
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: times he's submitting himself for acting roles.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Still, right now?
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Still, according to this person, allegedly. And we've seen him
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: in some Lifetime movies and things like that. And if
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: you ever think of hiring him as an actor, just
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: watch how fake his reaction is when Raquel shows up at...
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: the Mondrian for guys night. There is not a doubt
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: in my mind that they did not communicate prior to
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: her walking in that she was going to be there
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: that night.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Cause he's like, Raquel. Hey, what are you doing here?
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: It's the worst.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I know the worst. I know.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I know. It's so weird to watch back. And you're
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: going to see that there's something about that night that
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: That you guys will see later on in the season.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Sheena's vlog is really coming in handy, by the way,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: for Vanderpump Rules. They're like, we need that. We need
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: that footage. We need that footage.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I listened to a very, very telling podcast this morning.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: So there's this girl, Jamie. I think her podcast is
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Jamie All Over. And she is a very good friend.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: She was a bridesmaid in the Sheena wedding.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, I know Jamie. Okay. She's a very sweet girl.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: She's a vegan. She has a good.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, her podcast is about, like, veganism and all this
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: other stuff.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: And a couple businesses. Seems like she's got her head
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: on her shoulders. So they're really close. And within their group,
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: there's this other guy named Kale. And he's from the
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: music industry, but he's kind of like a life coach. Anyway,
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: he's friends with everybody. And so he's her guest on
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: this show. And there's some juice that comes out of that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Okay. And this was.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Just out just two days ago.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: So she says, after the boys' night.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: They, she meets, either she was there or she meets
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: him across the street at the Saddle Ranch where you
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: ride the bulls and stuff.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And they close it down. And the group of five
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: of them or whatever.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: And at one point she looks over and Sandoval and
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Raquel are talking extremely intensely at the bar.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: She doesn't think anything of it.
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Then they get, they get, they're outside and she looks
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: over and the two of them like on a curb
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: talking again, Raquel and Sandoval. And she films this little
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: video being like funny where it's almost like giving voices.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Have you seen the video?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: No.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I've seen the video.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: So she does little voices like making, but again, she
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: shows it to them.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: They laugh. They think it's funny. So she's ready to
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: post it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: And then she, something just tells her like, I think
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: this might be interpreted as a little too close for
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: comfort for Ariana. So I'm not going to post it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: So she doesn't.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Of course, this is August 4th or whatever. The wedding
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: is like a week and a half later. She then
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: says they all go to the wedding. And the party
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: before the wedding is this white party, which we're going
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: to see on the show. And that's where we see
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Schwartz make out with Raquel on camera for the first
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: time on camera. And she's like, I look over and
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: I see them making out. And then the next day
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I say to Schwartz, like, how was that make out?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: And he goes, kind of weird.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: It was like kissing my sister. And at one point,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Kale says, I was at that party too. And Raquel
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: went to him and was like, So they want me
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: to make out with Schwartz. And he's like, I don't
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: know who they is. I don't know if they, Sandoval, producers,
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: her demons.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: In her head. Sandoval was pushing for that very, very heavily.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: And now we know.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: I think I know from listening to this podcast and
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: stuff that if not full boning, stuff was happening after
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: that Saddle Ranch night.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's my opinion.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to confirm or deny anything. I think
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: what you learn later on about that night. is going
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: to shock you. The fact that this girl.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Which will put us at the seven-month mark.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: The fact that this girl, Raquel, has the audacity to
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: sit down, call me a mistress, wake up the next morning, leave,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: and then have what happened that night.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Is mind-blowing. It's... Mind-blowing.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: Well, it's... Again, with your situation where you're fighting for
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: your life and your family in this situation with your ex,
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: it is.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: It's... The deception... The... The double life, the compartmentalize. I
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: don't know what these type of people do in their
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: head to justify their behavior. Or they don't. Or they
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: don't really. I think there are people. I had Dr.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Drew on Tuesday. Oh, what did he say?
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: He said there's some people where it's an addiction, where
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: it becomes an addiction.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I'm going to read this thing real quick.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: But he goes, but other people don't feel bad.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: And he goes, there are people that don't feel bad,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: and those are bad people, and they do exist.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: So, Dr. Drew is obviously a doctor.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: I can only speak from experience. I agree with him,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: but the prime example is Randall. I met up with
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: his best friend. This was a while ago. He said,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: you know, I've talked to Randall. I told him, why
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: do you keep getting into relationships? Because, you know, he's
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: in another one. And... He said, why don't you just
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: go out and live your life and be with whoever
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: you want? And it's about the sneaking around. It's that
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: adrenaline rush, that high, that the sneaking around, it just
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: gives them this rush that they can't get anywhere else.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: So I feel like Sandoval is the exact same way.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: I think he was getting off on the creeping around.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I think Raquel fueled his ego, which a narcissist loves
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: to be that ego. She was a groupie, too. She
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: was a full groupie.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Thought he was the greatest thing since, like, sliced bread, right? Like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: she was obsessed. He needs that. And then when they
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: get caught, it's the textbook. We weren't in a good place.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: We weren't having sex anymore.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Sandoval and Ariana.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Correct. So it's just, it's like, I've seen this movie.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I've read this book a million times. I know it
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: front to back. Like, what else do you have? Because
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: you're not getting out of this. You are the piece
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: of shit. There is no avenue you can take that's
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: going to make me think, I get it. I don't
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: get it. I think you're a piece of shit.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Well, so I agree.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: So then also that's uncovered is, you know, since... Though
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: the kale guy is like good friends with Raquel and
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: they're always talking to each other. He looks back now
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: and realizes that she's one of those people that really
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: only called him when she needed anything and she'd act
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: like she cared, but she really didn't. And a couple
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: of things that came out that he said is at
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: one point she was sick in April of 2022. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: he says, I did take her to the hospital.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: And in April of 2022, she was not vaccinated. Because
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the vaccination thing came up in Dubois. Is she in
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: fact vaccinated? Did she say anything about that? So Jamie
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: was like, I don't know about that. And then he
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: was like, well, I know this. So whether she got
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: after that or not, who cares? But I'm just saying
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: that's one of these rumors we've heard.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Okay. This allegation. Allegedly, she did tell a cast member
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: who she was extremely close to That her vax card
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: was not real. Allegedly, this happened. Right. So, I saw that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I've heard about this. And.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: A lot of people feel about this subject like, who cares?
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: But it's just another thing that wasn't true.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: That's how I see it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: It's just another thing that you're comfortable about not being
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: truthful about.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Well, and also, you know, we.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: You have to be vaccinated to be on the show. Right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Like it is a requirement. So whether whether your stance
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: is pro or against vaccines. It's another element of like
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: you are a liar.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say what my stance is on
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: the vaccine, but I will say mine was real.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: And I think that people's minds and all that's what
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, but it was just, that was sort of
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: an interesting thing that was brought up. So I just
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: wanted to address it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: And then he said when he heard from her, when
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: it all happened that Thursday night, when it was all revealed.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: And at that time she cared more about, do you
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: think she will ever talk to me again?
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: So it's interesting that she's, like sad about her friend
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: being mad at her on Thursday and then by Saturday
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: she goes to the urgent care three days later in
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: LA and on Sunday or that on Monday files paperwork
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: for a temporary restraining order right so she was you
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: know and he's like look I think you are done
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: with these friends you know and you've got to move
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: on but like now it's the PR and trying to
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: save and rewrite And he goes, you know, you'll be
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: a stronger person one day because of this. She goes, oh, no,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I'm stronger right now or I'll be stronger because of this.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: And he's like, wow, like.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Before the remorse, before the like losing your friends, you're thinking, well, something,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: you know, about yourself, something good will or I will
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: be a better person for it or more famous.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know what her thought. He thinks she's very smart, though,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: this guy.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Do you think she's very smart?
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: He thinks she's very manipulative and a lot smarter than
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: people think. That's his opinion now. That wasn't his opinion
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: like now in retrospect.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Well, I think that we get these two things confused
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: when someone moves like a snake and they manipulate. We're like, oh,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: she's smarter. No, this is called the devil working, right?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: This is not a smart person. A smart person would
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: have parlayed that she was a fan favorite. She's finally
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: a main character on a giant show.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: That she was a fan of.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: That she was a fan of. a smart person would
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: have made all the right moves to set herself up
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: for greatness well beyond this show, which she did have
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: the potential to do. Instead, she fucks her best friend's dude,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: and I don't think there's any coming back. Like, none
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: of these people will speak to her again. Maybe Tom
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Sandoval and Schwartz, you know? Right. Sandoval, because obviously they
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: were hooking up, and.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Schwartz is weak.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: So he, at that point, he says, Kale says, that
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: she says we are in love, we want to be together.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: But then within a few days when he talks about,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: they figure out that there is no way to know
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: if someone is recording a FaceTime session or not. And
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: then she, so she was disappointed that that happened with him,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: with Sandoval saving the FaceTime. But we don't know if
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: she was like, save it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: We don't know. Look at it every night.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: But, and then at that point, according to this kale guy,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: she says, I know now he isn't the one for me.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: But, you know, that was a week. Like, who knows?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Every day it's probably changing. But this is his account.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: And all I know is that. I do know they're
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: still in communication.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: For the hearing that's going to happen for Sheena, I predict,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: this is my prediction, everybody.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, tell me your prediction.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: She will withdraw it or not show up on the 27th.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: On the 29th.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: On the 29th. I agree. Because if she does, she's
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: going to be buried. She will be buried. Because Sheena
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: will have Kale. She'll have Jamie. She can have as
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: many of you as she wants.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: As character witness and witnesses to what Raquel has shared
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: or told you in a timeline.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: And, you know, it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Is not easy to get a three-year or a five-year
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: restraining order.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: It is not easy.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: It takes a lot of work.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I think Raquel... Just being in the court system. I
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: think Raquel thinks you just, like, file this. She's going
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: to show up on the 29th and be granted something.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: This, they're going to show up. It's going to be
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: punted to a later date. It'll then get punted to
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: a later date. Things like this cost a lot of money.
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know that. Okay, I've been in the restraining
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: order game. I've experienced it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: It's not a big deal. If it's not thrown out,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: it's just going to keep getting punted to a later date.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: It could be that, A, she just doesn't show up. Okay.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: And then it's thrown away. If Sheena didn't show up,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: then it would probably be granted, which we know Sheena's
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: going to show up.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Sheena's going to show up. She's excited. Her lawyer is excited.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: But if they all show up, it won't get pushed off.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: If they show up, they will start it. Like, it
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: is set for that time. They will start it.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: They don't want... This is not like a trial thing.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: So I'm saying.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: This is the first... I don't think.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Sheena will prevail.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to call witnesses to the
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: stand on the 29th.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Well, you can bring... That's when you bring the people.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: To fight it, to fight it or to get it.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: So like if you felt like you needed it, you
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: would bring any, like if you were in a situation
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: where God forbid someone witnessed the person you're trying to
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: get a restraining order, do something or say something, you
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: bring all those people because, you know, so we'll see.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: I know Sheena's going to prevail, but my prediction is
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: that Raquel, with all this is coming out, she's going
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: to realize she doesn't have a strong case and she's
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: going to be like, I just, I don't, you know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: She'll just drop in.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: I saw this coming. I knew her dad was going
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: to get in her ear. She needs to, desperate people
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: freak me the fuck out. When someone starts getting desperate,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, this is when they start doing things that,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: you know, once you put something out there, even though
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: it may or may not be true, you cannot take
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: it back. So, she's, grasping for anything that's going to
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: save her. And I knew she would do that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: And we don't know with the reunion what the situation
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: is going to be with them, like in the room
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: or Zoom or whatever.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: All I know is they cannot be in the same room. Right.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: And they also can't even speak to each other. So
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: whether someone Zooms in or... Not like they, they.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Won't be split screen or anything. Yeah. They won't be communicating.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: One of them cannot be in the room when the
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: other person is there. Zoom or not. They can't even
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: speak to each other.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Right. Got it. So, um, anyway, the episode was super juicy.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Did you like it?
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I did like it.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: You go to Havasu and that the group of guys
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: next to you was not great, but.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: It was, it was fun to watch.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: They seemed nice, but I'm just saying no one was
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: like down to like get together in the lake.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, those guys.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: On the lake.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I thought you meant the night.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, then you go to the night. You're like, this
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: is not LA.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: But that can be kind of fun. And then you
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: did meet a guy that seemed pretty cute. And you
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: did date that guy for a minute.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Can I tell you? I'm in contact with him again.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Bucket hat. It's so strange to me that the two dudes,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: the one that Katie was seeing and the first dude
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: that I was with since we split from our exes.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: So the guy at Disco Pussy was Katie's dude with
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: a mustache?
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: She never hooked up with him. There's a guy that
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: she met. You'll see him on the show. That was
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: her first hookup since... Or no, maybe it wasn't her
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: first hookup. She had a lot of fun. I was
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: a little wounded still. I was like, I don't know
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: that I'm ready for all that. But these two guys
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: that appear on the show with us, the one that
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I met in Havasu, they were the two that were
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: just the best. Things that were supposed to be A one-nighter, like,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: talk to you never again. I was like, oh, my gosh,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: they're so sweet. The dawn took a piece of my heart.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: The bucket hat.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Bucket hat.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Is he still swarming around? Is he still flying around
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a little?
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: We communicate. Okay. All right.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: So this is a Juicy Scooper wrote this to me
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: and just came in this morning. I was the Raquel.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: She's being honest about her own self. I cheated with
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: a man married to one of my best friends. We
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: snuck around for months. He came on to me one night,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: and I didn't stop him. It was like a drug.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: I couldn't get enough. I was in the lowest place
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: of my life. I loved the attention. I eventually ended it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: It's been 15 years, but I think of it often.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: I've been in therapy over it. It's my life's biggest regret.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: The irony, a couple years ago, I discovered my husband
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: was cheating on me with a 25-year-old.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Karma?
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Perhaps.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Can't help but feel sorry for Raquel. because I know
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: how easy it is to be swept up in something
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: like this. Feel free to roast me in the comments.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: You won't be saying anything I don't say to myself.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: I just thought it was interesting to, and she put
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: this in anonymous, and I'm keeping her anonymous, and I
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: just thought it was interesting to hear someone's perspective, because
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: we all are, the biggest thing is like, who does this?
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: And I know that people do it, because I could
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: see in all the discussions in my groups and stuff,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: the people that were like, God, you stopped making it
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: about Raquel.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, whoa, what did you do? Like, that's okay.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: But obviously, and I've even said, I know there's people
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: who are listening to the show that have been the Raquel.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: We know it.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: And how they, why they did it, how they recover,
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: what did they tell themselves?
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Did they, you know, whatever. Did they not care? Did
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: they off on it? Was it like, did they have
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: better orgasms because it was a cheating thing? Probably. Like,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Because I've never been in that situation,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: thank God. But I thought it was just.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I think because when a dude, obviously, like, I can't
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: stand Tom Sandoval and the fact that he recorded her
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: without her knowledge, if that's really what happened, I think
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: is absolutely disgusting. But I feel like when a man
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: does a woman dirty, the only thing they have after
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: that is their girlfriends. right? It's what you lean into.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: And to find out that it's the girl that you're
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: best friends with, who you would normally go to in
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: this situation to like give you strength. I just think
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: the whole thing is dirty. And I understand we're never
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: going to be able to relate to something that we've
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: never been in that situation before. So I understand where
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: this girl is coming from. I don't know that her
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: husband cheating on her Was her karma? Could it be? Maybe.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Who am I to be the judge? Right. But at
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: this point in time, maybe with time passing, I can
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: feel for Raquel. I said from the jump, Katie said,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Christina said, this girl needs help and guidance. And every
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: single person up here was saying she's found her voice.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Let her go out there and make mistakes and do this,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: that and the other. Where I was seeing it from
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: a 30,000 foot view just because of my own situation.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: This is going to end badly. Right. It ain't so
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: cute when you're the girl whose man she's fucking, right?
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: It's not so cute when she delivers a line like that. Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: It's a good thing you don't have a man when
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: it's your man.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And you never liked her. You didn't like her in
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: the beginning.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: She's always triggered me. Always.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: You try to give her the benefit of the doubt
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: and be friends.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: One thing that the kale guy said in this podcast
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: is he said, her concern was always.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: What does Lala think? And, you know, what does Lala think?
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: And he was like, well, whoa, you just proved Lala
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: right all along.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Lala wants to light your ass on fire, just like
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: she's always wanted to do, just like she's done for
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: the past five years.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Now, in the show this season, we see that Sandoval
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: was very insensitive to your situation.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: And he says something like, well, yeah, and then you
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: go have a baby with somebody.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: You know... With a guy like that.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: With a guy like... And so... Now.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: You're a guy like that.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: So seeing all that.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: You are a Randall.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: And when he said this, do we know what month
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: he said that in the shooting?
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Was he already getting... Here's where I'm at with it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: You don't just suddenly fall on someone's dick. There was
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: a level of comfortability. The line was crossed a long
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: time ago.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Whether it was text messages.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Whatever someone says.
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: Touching.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Whatever someone says, you know, cheating, it was an accident.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I literally have said, an accident... Is when you, you know,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: forget to stop filling the pool and it overflows. That's
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: an accident. The accident is like, oh, I slipped and
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: fell and a dick was inside of me. And I
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: was like, if I didn't wear these heels, I wouldn't
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: have slipped and fallen on someone's dick. Yeah.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Right. Continue.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Go on.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: So the line was crossed well before they first hooked up.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Right. Obviously. On the shoulders at Coachella.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: The whole thing has been not right. All right.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I've been picking up the scent of Raquel's pH balance
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: being a little fucking off. Okay? Let's just say that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: So for him to say something like that, she should
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: have known better than to get knocked up by a
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: dude like that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: It was so.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: You're that dude. Which also triggered me because, Heather, I
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: think about that all the time. Like, what did I
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: bring this little innocent being into? How could I not
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: have been smarter? How was my daughter having to pay
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: for my stupidity and me keeping my blinders on and
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: not wanting to see red flags? Like, I beat myself
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: up over that daily. I didn't need someone like Sandoval
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: to say something like that.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: Well, it's also just such an insensitive thing because whenever
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: there is now a child on this earth, it's meant
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: to be for all those reasons.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: And I actually saw something a long time ago, which
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: I thought was so amazing. And it actually was a
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Tony Robbins thing.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: And these, this daughter and her mom were both there
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: and they're like, we're here because, you know, her father,
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: my ex just did us wrong and it was awful
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: and everything. And he was like, yeah, but you wouldn't
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: be who you are if he was a nice, fabulous person.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Totally. So it's like, It's you. Everything is what makes
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: you who you are. And, you know.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: And she's already just like. She's so well adapted. You
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: could throw that kid into any situation and she's going
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: to be so happy and make it work. And I
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: don't even think that she realizes the power that she has, obviously,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: because she's only two. But without Ocean, I would have
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: just moved on with my life. Right. But because I
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: have her, I have to put up a big fight
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: to not only protect her, but she opened up the
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: door for many victims to come to me and share
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: their story about Randall. And because of Ocean, I won't
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: give up this fight. Not just for Ocean, but I
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: can't stop. I can't unhear what I've heard.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: So.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: She's giving me the strength to end something that has
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: been so wrong for so long. Someone who has continued
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: this behavior for 25 years. Like, she's the driving force
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: behind it. And she, like, doesn't even realize that, you know?
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: That in the end, the world's going to be a
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: better place because she's here.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: For so many people, not just her mom and not
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: just your family. And it's so incredible that your mom
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: lives with you yeah your brother's always there and your
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: makeshift family of like your best friends and everything it's
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: you know but besides that what will come of it
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: will be all better for everyone yeah you know.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: At the end of this you know she gives me
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: strength in so many different ways that I won't ever
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: be able to describe to her.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: You posted something on your stories, like a reshare that
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: I thought was really interesting a day or two ago.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: And it was from this, it was like, um, from
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: like a community.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: And it was basically like a statement of like a
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: mother or a parent doesn't go through lawyers, thousands, thousands
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: of dollars, um, courts being, um, their reputation being tarnished,
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: people not believing them, making their career suffer, if their
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: child's other parent was a safe place for that child
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: to spend their time.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: So when a parent does feel the need, no choice
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: but to go for the sole, you know, physical custody
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: and have the, when they do go for that and
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: they don't settle at a 50-50 situation.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: There is a reason. I think anybody would like to
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: end something amicably with their ex and have every other
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: weekend off to themselves as a single woman if we're
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: doing it like that.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: The person that goes through all of that, it's not
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: because it's like, I want to get you.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: There's no way you.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Would spend all this money, all this energy, all these tears,
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: all this stuff if there wasn't such a compelling reason
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: that you feel that this is in the You know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: the only interest of your child, not the best interest,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: the only interest of your child.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: There can be no other version. Ocean's future and well-being
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: depends on me in this fight. I am spending crazy
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: amounts of money on lawyers. I've spent more than some
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: people will see in a lifetime. And I don't know
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: how I'm doing it. I don't say no to really
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: anything that's going to bring in money because I can't
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: give up the fight. I know that if it doesn't
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: end with her in my care, it's going to be
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: a travesty to her future.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of lawyers, you've got your sweatshirt. Send it
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: to Daryl. A video that's gone viral.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: You did get a letter sent to your email by
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Raquel's lawyers saying, what don't share the video, which you
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: didn't have anyway.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: I literally responded to her lawyer. Don't ever send me
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: a direct email ever again. I have counsel. I don't
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: have the video, nor do I want it. And I
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: haven't seen it. My eyes would light on fire. And
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: I sent that to him. And then I screenshotted my
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: response and the letter and sent it to Daryl.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: And, And people have found Daryl.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: He's a successful lawyer who seems like a good person
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: He's the greatest.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: So he is a real lawyer.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: And I hope he gets a sweatshirt out of this
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Well, I asked him. I said, I posted a video
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: and I ended up taking it down because I was like,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: I want to give you a peaceful work day. Yeah.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: But like, it's already out there and I kind of
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: want to make merch now. Are you fine with that?
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: And he said, go for it as long as I...
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: get a sweatshirt and he said I know about this
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: because I've been getting phone calls and emails about it
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: all day I was like I'm so sorry I didn't
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: realize I just went on a rant and like posted
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: it I had no idea that send it to Daryl
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: was that funny did.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: You see the thing I sent you with um Lucy
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: from um from.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Uh Charlie Brown yeah yes yeah I was like.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Send it to Daryl I have a little baby to
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: take care of. I don't need to see this in
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: the morning.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see that ever. Send it to Daryl.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: It's so funny. Yeah.
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: Well, speaking of videos, this was the other thing said
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: in Jamie's all around the world.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: What is that?
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Jamie all over.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: When James is asked to leave by security at the
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Canyon Club because he was getting... too loud talking to
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: his girlfriend or whatever um this girl Jamie said she
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: witnessed Raquel try to film it with her phone and
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: then a fan was filming it as well as well
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: and Brock this is all alleged on this podcast Brock
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: then goes hey you can't do that give it to
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: me send it to me and then delete it please
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: and let me make sure you deleted it so I
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: guess he did or something okay And then the girl,
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: the fan comes around and is kind of like hanging
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: around and the JB girl is like, can you like
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: not be eavesdropping?
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: She then says that Raquel then allegedly said to her,
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: can you, I'm going to give.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: You these videos because I have it. She got it
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: from the girl, the fan, and I have my own.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: And I want you to.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Tell I told production you have it and I need
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: you to then sign a release saying that they can
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: use it. And she was like, I am absolutely not
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: doing that.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: That's not true. And like to.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Me, you know, to make it look like it didn't
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: come from her.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: She wanted it out there, but she didn't want it
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: to ever come back where you guys then could be like,
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: what the fuck, Raquel? Like, you know, because she said
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: to her, she goes, Raquel, has he ever, you know,
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: been physical or anything with you?
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: And she said, no.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: So then she was like, I'm not going to, you know,
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: feed this narrative and have people think this about James
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: when it's not true. And he was just, you know,
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: a little annoyed or whatever, hotheaded at the thing. So anyway, so,
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: but that was another thing. That was another untruth, allegedly.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: That was coming. But those are the type, that's the
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: type of person that scares me. Like, Katie, me, James,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: everyone talks about our mouths and how like insane we
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: are and crazy. But at the end of the day, like,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: you know what you're getting. There's no, there's no, um,
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: surprises when it comes to the three of us, but
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: we're kind of outcast because we weren't getting along with Raquel.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: We didn't dig her. We were on the fringe of
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: the friend group during this time.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: During a lot of times, you know, we weren't allowed
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: to have real emotion because your mouth, you're, you're entitled.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: You're this, that, and the other. When really you got
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: to be afraid of the people who are moving in
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: that way where they're sending videos. It's like if you
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: want to light him on fire, just tell him, tell
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: us you want to light him on fire.
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll help you do it. You know, I'm all
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: about a man doing you dirty. Let's blast this motherfucker.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: All right. But she moves like a snake and you're
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: going to see. I called this even before cameras picked
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: back up again.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: And all of this happened. I'm so glad Andy Cohen
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: co-signed on the fact that these episodes have not been
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: re-edited to fit the storyline. You just would have been
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: more torn on how you felt about her. Right.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: If you didn't know what had transpired. Well, so juicy. Okay.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: So some other juicy stuff happened. You watch Real Housewives
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: of Potomac, right?
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Juan Dixon has been let go from his coaching job.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Robin Dixon's husband.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: To remind people they were married, they got divorced, they dated,
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: and then they got remarried. But prior to that, it
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: all got found out that he was seeing this other woman.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: But she claims it was just like an emotional thing
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: and nothing physical ever happened. By the way, if this
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: girl who was like dating a Baltimore Ravens player, she's
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: coming into town and this NFL player is not paying
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: for her hotel, I'm not buying it. All right? I've
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: hooked up with many... a football player in my day.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: And even the one nighters are getting a free room.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: The story that Robin told that was what she and
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: what she believes happened was one was bored one day
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: and he's DMing this girl.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: And they became friends. And she said, I'm coming from
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Canada to screw this Baltimore player. And then she lost
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: her wallet at a casino and went to a hotel
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: and didn't have anyone in her world that could help, uh,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: pay for her room, except for the guy that she
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: DM'd once. And that was Juan Dixon. And then Juan
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Dixon came over in person to pay for the room
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: and then said, I hope I did my Christian service
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: for the year and I hope you have a good nap.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: And then he left and then Robin married him and
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: now he got fired.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: But you know, there's the scoop about what happened at
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: this place, at the place that he was working at.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: There was another coach where there was something happening.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: A catfish situation.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: A catfish situation. And one knew about it but didn't
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: handle it properly.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Let me just read it to remind people.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: So there was a lawsuit filed against the school alleging
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: that an assistant coach on Dixon's staff sexually assaulted and
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: blackmailed a former player by tricking him into sending nude photos.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Of himself.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: So he, this other male assistant was into this player
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: and did a catfish as a woman and was like,
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: send me photos of you.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: So you're nude.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: And then once he did, allegedly once he did, then
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: the assistant was like, Oh my God, I'm being catfished
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: by this girl too. And we're both going to like
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: lose our place because now we've like sent nude photos
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: to this person.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: And the only way she will not blackmail us.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: If you and I have sex and we film it
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: or BJ or something.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: So then the guy did. So it was like a
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: quadruple catfish.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: Anyway, allegedly, Juan Dixon may have had some knowledge of it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that has to do with any
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: of him getting let go or if it's because of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: the Potomac season or what. But a lot of people
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: wanted to see Robin Dixon go because they were pissed
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: that she didn't share all this.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: No, Robin's coming back.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: Robin and her unemployed Juan Dixon husband are 100% Listen,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: make lemonade out of lemons, chick. You may have lost
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: this job, but you just secured another year.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: So that happened. Isn't that so sad?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: It's like, wait, you have utter heartbreak, betrayal, shit has
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: hit the fan. Right. We want you back. How much
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: you want. No. But like, you're getting married and having
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: a baby. We're so happy for you. Not interested. Yeah.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: Not interested at all.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: You're sober and have a wonderful charity and your kids
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: are doing great and you and your husband are completely
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: nice and normal.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: We're not seeing much of a storyline here for you.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Why are you so fucking boring?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: No, but really. It's such a mindfuck. I'm telling you what.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: This has gone viral. This is pretty juicy.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: Gwyneth Paltrow. Are you a fan of the goop.com and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: all that she does?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: I know nothing about it except for that it exists
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: and it's hers.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: Anyway, she does an interview and it went viral yesterday.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: And it's her talking to some doctor about her wellness
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: journey and what she does in a day. She says,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: I eat a small dinner. Then I do a 16
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: to 18 hour intermittent fast.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: And then I.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Have my first cup of coffee at 12 because I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: don't want to spike my sugar.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: And I like to have, I mostly have bone broth.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: Bone broth?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Bone broth for lunch. And then I only eat paleo
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: for dinner.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: In between, I either, you know, do Pilates or Tracy Anderson.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: And then I do the dry brushing.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: What is dry brushing?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: I think you take a.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: Brush and you just like, but you aren't wet. And
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: you exfoliate your body. And then she goes in the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: infrared sauna. And she's working on her, you know, and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: gets her, she's detoxing.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: So all these people are matching it on TikTok. And
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: I thought someone brought it up great.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: They're like, what, after 10 years of having goop and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: your detox stuff and all their detox products that she's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: pitching in this interview, you haven't.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Gotten it out yet? Like how much, how much toxins
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: are left in your body? If you like, maybe I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: don't want to buy your goop shit. If 10 years later,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: you still have toxins left in your body, right? It's like, So,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: and then.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think I've done a detox ever. Maybe I should.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: No. I remember there was this thing where people would
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: put this thing on their feet. Yeah. And they'd be like, oh,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: and then you pull it off and it's black in
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: the morning.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: And then I saw something like, no, it's bullshit. It's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: not anything.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: I just feel like a solid bowel movement in the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: morning is detox enough. Me too. You know, like, as
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: long as I can get rid of like the Tostito
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: cheese and. chips that I made the night before, disgusting
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: at 12 a.m. during a Seinfeld episode.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: It's all good.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: It's fine.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: I want to enjoy my life. And this does not
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: look like an enjoyable life. I don't want to dry
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: brush myself.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: They call her the almond mom. Do you know what
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: the almond mom is?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: No, what is that?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: That's this other thing where people say.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: I had an almond mom, meaning my mom was like
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: one of those people that was like, just have a
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: handful of almonds. Like just like a mom that like really...
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: kind of screwed up their daughter about eating habits.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, I had the opposite.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Because they were thin.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: They were thin.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Your mom is gorgeous, by the way.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: No, thank you.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm glad she's not an almond mom.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: I'm glad she likes to, like, have a meal.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: We stay eating at our house. Not the healthiest stuff
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: at times, but it's okay. We enjoy ourselves.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: Well, to give healthy stuff, she says things like, I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: would rather, in the past, in interviews, she said, I'd
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: rather smoke crack than eat cheese from a can, like
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: a whiz of canned cheese.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: And then she's never had cheese whiz or cheese out
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: of a can because it is absolutely fantastic and mind blowing.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: And she said the same thing about I'd rather do something, whatever,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: if I then feed my kid soup from a can.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: And I just think it is such an entitlement that.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: You came from famous parents. You're super wealthy. You know
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: how to make soup, and that's great. And you can
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: open your fridge, and you have stuff to make a
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: soup with.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: Because people that don't have that time, that money, and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: they do eat cheese from a can, and they do
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: eat food from a soup.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: And it's delicious. It's fantastic. And the fact that you're
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: promoting someone smoking crack over eating cheese out of a
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: can is absolutely terrifying to me.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: I think Gwyneth Paltrow is a big dick. And I
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: don't care to be, I don't think we have a
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: future together as friends or business opportunities.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: So I'm ready to go hardcore.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: There's other girl, Miss girl, Meredith Lynch, who I love.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: She just said, I think she's bringing this up to
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: deflect from a lawsuit that's coming to fruition right now. Oh,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: so Gwyneth Paltrow was in Deer Valley in 2016 and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: she completely ran into this guy.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Hit him with a car?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: No, with her body.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: She's skiing. Oh, no.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: She's skiing with her, you know, skiing companion who is
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: an employee of Deer Valley, whatever, a coach, whatever you
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: call it.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Instructor.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Knocks him down. There's witnesses and everything. He has a concussion.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: He has three broken ribs. Oh, shit.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: She really took him out.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: And then she just takes off. She takes off with
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: her instructor. Hit and run. And he's like... And the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: guy goes, do you see what you did to Gwyneth Paltrow?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: And he's like, what?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: She came up behind me and she... And also he
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: said he heard her screaming. So he's swimming for like 300,000.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: It's coming up this week. So Meredith thinks, I think
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: she did this kind of shocking interview possibly on purpose
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: to deflect from the fact that she's got this lawsuit.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: Now I know skiing rules. I am not a good skier,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: but you get a lot of trouble. If you come down,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: you know, the person who, in front of you has
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: the right of way. They can't see you as you're coming.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: And so when you're coming down and you hit someone,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: you are to stay there.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: You are to, you know, possibly.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: And if someone sees that you were being reckless, they
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: can take your, um, your thing, your bag, you can't
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: ski anymore.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: But in this case, she just went. And so, um,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: she's going to Paltrow.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: She's saying now that her instructor told her to leave
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: and it's deer Valley's fault and everything in the deposition.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: So I don't know where it's going to happen with this, case,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: but as you as someone from Utah, are you a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: good skier?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Hell no.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: My parents used to try and make me go skiing
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: and I'd lock myself in the bathroom.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Well, you were scared or?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I hate skiing. I just don't see that like
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: strapping something to your feet and then flying down a
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: hill just seems a little bit dangerous to me.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: So no.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the real house on Salt Lake City.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Did you hear that Mary Cosby is back? Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: Do we like this?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Because they're in Palm Springs filming right now. There's witnesses,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: according to the Queens of Bravo Plus.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Palm Springs?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Next up, Redding, California. No offense to Redding. I'm just
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: saying not a vacation spot.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, Palm Springs is great.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: Woodland Hills, California.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: You guys are going to have the greatest time at
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: the Woodland Hills Marriott and Warner Center.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: We are going to go to the village for a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: kava salad. No, I... Yeah, I don't know why.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Um....
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: But they're filming and Mary Cosby is back. So it's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: crazy that they get rid of one person, hoping that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: another one will be indicted. Because her legal thing with
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: her cult stuff, I don't know if she'd be indicted.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying she will.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know why she would throw herself on TV again.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Mary Cosby, don't come after me.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying there was a lot about her church
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: and former members coming forward that was not favorable. So
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know if more will come out about that.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know if she's completely ended. I went to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: the church.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Didn't you say there were like five people there? No,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: it was like closed up.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: It was closed up.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: So if she has, in fact, I think the smart
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: thing for Mary Cosby to have done is ended her
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: time as a church leader, closed the church. And just
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: be a full-time housewife.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: But Heather, that's not how it works. Just because you've
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: now closed the doors, it doesn't make it like, can't
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: come after me. I know a lot of people, including
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: a little somebody who's like, I no longer am with
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: that company. It's like, well, you were and you did
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: dirty shit and now you have to pay for it.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: We're happy for you that you've stopped doing whatever it
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: is that you were doing and you've closed the doors,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: but you still got to be held accountable for the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: shitty things you did.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Exactly. So, um, There's also some talk of, do you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: think the Kardashians.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: Are- are they, they have not popped up in my
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: explore page in a minute. They used to fill the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: explore page. They are nowhere to be found. Now.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: I definitely feel they're not getting the buzz. And so
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: there's this thing. A lot of people are saying, are
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: we kind of, how they, are they becoming less relevant? Um,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just I do think people don't care
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: as much. I think like once Kim got with Pete Davidson,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: that was a lot of press. Once they broke up,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: we're kind of like.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know if she's going to get somebody else.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, she's a busy woman of four. She probably
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to get with anyone else.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: But who could she get with that would be like.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: Mind blowing that we would care to talk about?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: And then like Chloe with the Tristan thing.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: She's supposedly back with him. It was his birthday.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: And Chris did like seven stories about what a great
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: father he is and how great he is. So, and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: he went to the Malika's birthday party, the twins.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He was there.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: So, people think they're back together. Meanwhile, Kourtney has gotten
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: no attention since she.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Married Travis Barker.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: The hype is over with that.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: So, she dyed her hair blonde. Nobody cares.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: No one cares.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: And Kendall is dating Bad Bunny. Nobody cares.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: No one cares.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Kylie might not be with.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Travis Scott anymore.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Who cares?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: You know how they could be relevant again?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: How?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: Kris Jenner needs to get pregnant. That I would care about. Right?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't even think Kris Jenner cares enough
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: to like marry Corey to get some stuff happening.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: But I don't think anyone would even care about that.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: No, nobody would care. That would be boring.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: I can't think of one thing I would care about.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: You know, they're set for life. They have great products.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: Yes. Good American is great.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Skims is great.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: I haven't tried Kylie Cosmetics.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: They're all moms.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: So it's like, maybe they don't have to be talked
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: about every day. Maybe they could just go on and
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: just be businesswomen and moms.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: That seems like the dream to me.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: Like, to have an empire and not be in the press,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: but like bawling out. Yeah. That is the dream.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: But maybe, you know, it's like, what comes first, the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: chicken or the egg?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: Are they.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: do they procure this press or does these things happen
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: in their life?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: And then the press comes.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: And right now, just like a reality star that's about
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: to get fired from a housewife show, they don't have
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: any storylines.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: I know they just don't have any storylines. And if
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: she gets back with, with Tristan, nobody cares.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: No, no one's going to be cheering them on, but
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: also nobody cares enough to be like, Hey, you, you're crazy.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: We already went through that.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares. Yeah. Right.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: We already went through that. And even if he were
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: to go and get someone else pregnant again, it's like,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: We've seen this movie before. It's a Tuesday.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: No one cares.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: No one cares. Okay. See, here they is on the birthday.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, is that the new... Is that his new baby?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's the new baby called... We don't know this.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: We still don't know Chloe's new baby's name. They like
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: to wait like a year.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's his baby. So, does he not have any
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: communication with the love child?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't care what Chloe.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, the love child... I don't know, but she... Yeah,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: she gets paid... Yeah, this is his other son.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: He has four. So you're right. The love child one
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: from In Between is not in this photo.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: They didn't feature that. And we still don't know this
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: latest baby's name.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Do we care anymore?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: No, we don't care anymore.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: It's taking too long.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: You waited too long.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: Selena did a makeup-free selfie that got.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: You know, a million, trillion likes. Everyone loves her.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: How could you not?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: This was weird what happened. So she posted this.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: She's so stinking cute.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: She's so cute.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: So Selena does a little photo of herself and she writes,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: today is International Women's Day and I want each of
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: us to be a gentler to ourselves. Write your younger
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: self and stick it on your mirror and remind yourself
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: that you deserve.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: Then, like two days later, Hailey Bieber does also post
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: a childhood photo of herself.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: No offense, not as cute. And is like hugging this
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: little girl extra tight.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: Now, they were getting a lot of press. Haley was
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: not having a good week. And then Raquel gave her
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: a week off.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: Okay. Raquel gave a lot of people some time off.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Didn't she?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: And even CNN was like, who are these people? The
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: New York Times. Hold up. We need to report on this.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: It was the craziest shit. Yeah. So she got it.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Raquel, for giving... A-list celebrity is a week off.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: And so anyway, she, it is weird. She does a lot.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: She's very obsessed, you know, very, but the copying is continuing.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, once we, everyone has done a million
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: TikToks on how much you copied, you just copied again
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: after the scandal.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, again.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: You think now she's feeding into it?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: Now I think she's feeding into it because she needs
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: us to talk about her.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: I can appreciate that. All right.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Did you watch Jersey last night? Of course.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, last night's?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: Didn't watch last night's.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Nothing, not much happened.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: They did the baseball tournament that they've done three years
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: in a row, which literally is 45 minutes of us
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: watching them play baseball.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: What is that?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: It's Dolores' charity, which is great.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: Again, see, but what did we talk about? We were like,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: good things we don't want to see. How dysfunctional is
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: this world?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm just like, I don't need to see all
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: the baseball playing, but I mean, you know, it's just
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: the constant Melissa versus Teresa.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Will they ever.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: But one thing that happened was Teresa said, you know, Antonio,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: which is Melissa and Joe's daughter, had a sweet 16.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: And when Melania had hers or something.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: Wait, hold on.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: When Melania had her sweet 16, Antonio.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Antonio.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: Antonio couldn't come because she, you know, she's like, because
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: she has a cheer competition. Well, I heard from a
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: couple of cheer competition moms and they're like, yeah. You
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: can't blow it off for a sweet 16. I don't
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: care whose it is. Because the routine is based on
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: all the people and the spirits.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Of course. Have you seen Cheer Club?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: There's a whole movie.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Bring it on.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: Have you seen that shit? I mean, they do not
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: mess around.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: So.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: All this tit for tat. Who came?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: Who didn't?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: What's a good excuse? It's exhausting.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: And if that's what family is, I don't want it.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: Y'all can have it.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Y'all can have it.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: Family's supposed to be like, I totally get it.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: I go back and forth between Teresa and Melissa on
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: that one. Ding, ding, ding.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: Melissa wins for her daughter sticking to her squad at
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: the cheer competition. Nicolette Sheridan posted this on Twitter. Knocking
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: out my door. Now, Nicolette Sheridan was the blonde from
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: Desperate Housewives, the scripted show.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Knocking out my door.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: How desperate are you all to have me at Bravo
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: TV at Andy?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Hashtag Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, what a savage move.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: Now, Nicolette Sheridan was an actress who was on Desperate Housewives,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: which is what the whole reality was kind of parroting
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: was the show.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: She did sue Mark Cherry, the creator of it, and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: it kind of made her black.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: She was sort of blackballed for that. What was the reason?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: She felt that they killed her off and it was like,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm going to screw up the story.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: But she did a whole lawsuit. I don't think she
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: prevailed in the end.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: But she felt she was done dirty. And then in
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: saying that, she brought up other things that were not
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: flattering to Mark Cherry and her time on set. But really,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: in the end, she really did not work for.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: A really long time. I don't remember seeing her anywhere after.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: She was married to Harry Hamlin, Harry fucking Hamlin, before
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: he married.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: Lisa Rinna.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: Is this?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: You know who she was also married to? Can you
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: look this up?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: I think she was also married to or dating. She
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: was dating Aaron, who then married Denise Richards.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: I think they were married.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: She was married to.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: Erin, we got to get her on.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. Come on. We have to bring back Denise.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: Nicolette Sheridan. We are desperate. But to me, this seems
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: like knocking at my door. How desperate are y'all to
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: have me? Meaning like, show me the bag of money.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: Like how desperate are you?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: Or are you knocking at all? Or is she just
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: throwing it out? We don't know. Cause they're filming right now. So, but,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: but they can always bring someone.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: Jill Zarin said on my show that she ran into
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: Kathy Hilton at the Vanity Fair Oscar party.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: Of course she did. And she said, Jill is fabulous.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: And I said, Jill, I go, so the only housewives
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: that were at the Vanity Fair party, because a bunch
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: of them were Elton John, were you and Kathy Hilton.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: And she goes, Kathy is not a housewife right now.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: She's not.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: She said she's not filming. She's not doing it right now.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: Stop filming right now. And I thought that was kind
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: of juicy because I thought she was. Now that Lisa
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: Rinna's gone, I thought that was the seal of the deal.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: See, I think I would have been more shocked if
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: she was filming. I... I think it's because I've seen
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: photos of the girls together.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: They went to Vegas. She wasn't there.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: She wasn't there.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: Like Crystal's birthday.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been like a few group shots where like
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: Kathy Hilton's not in it.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: Anyway, you know these Oscar gift bags? I thought this
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: was kind of interesting because people always want to know
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: about these. Jill, also on my thing, must have talked
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: about how there was no gift bag at the Elton
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: John party. She mentioned gift bag like 25 times.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: It was hilarious.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: I've been to that event a few times and I
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: don't remember them ever having gift bags. So if anyone
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: else has gone to it and there was a point
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: in time where they did do that, I definitely, in
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: my time going, no gift bag. But to be honest-
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, please send me gift bags still. But I
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: don't really love a gift bag.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Gift bags have gone.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: There's more stuff. There's more stuff I've got to figure
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: out where to put.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Gifting suites and gift bags have gone way down.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Down in the last 10 years.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: It's usually a t-shirt with something on it.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: The Oscar gift bag is worth, if you were to
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: use everything in it, $ 126, 000 and the IRS does view
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: gift bags as taxable income. So if you use any
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: of this stuff, you're going to have to put it
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: as your income. There is a $ 40, 000 stay.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: In Canada for like a vacation, a resort.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: A $ 9, 000 stay in Italy that you could use. $ 10, 000
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: worth of Botox. There's some chocolate-covered pretzels and a hand soup.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: There's always a few like random things.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: But the only people that get the swag bags were
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: the host, Jimmy Kimmel, the best director nominees, the best
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: actor nominees, the best actress nominees. nominees and best supporting
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: nominees and best supporting.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: So only the main nominees. So all people that can
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: fully afford to do all of these things will probably
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: never use any of it.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: No one's going to go on the vacation thing. And
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: it's not like you can give that to someone else.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: They want the person to go to the Canada place
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: or the Italy place. And I doubt anyone, like those
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: people don't.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: I take that back because what's kind of amazing about
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: the people that won the nominees this year, there were
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: a handful of them that You know, especially from everything everywhere,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: like the best supporting actor that won, he really hadn't
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: been working in like 20 years. So he might want
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: to cash in on these free trips.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: He's going to be the only one.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel ain't going. And he certainly ain't going
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: to get $ 10, 000 worth of Botox.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: And then you go and then it's like, hi, we're
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: so happy to have you at this resort. This is Sheila.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: She's just going to be following around the whole time
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: taking photos.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. We just need some SpawnCon.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: Have you heard about the Tiger Woods thing?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: This is pretty juicy. So Tiger Woods has this girlfriend, okay,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: that he's.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: Had for quite a while.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: But they weren't married, and she was living in his house.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: And so one day, living in his $ 30 million mansion
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: in Florida, and he wanted to break up with her.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: We didn't know what to do.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: And so- He said, yeah, we'll like go on a
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: trip or whatever. So he was gone and his people
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: came and said.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Pack your bags, girl. You're going to meet Tiger on
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: a great trip.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: And then she packed some bags and she got in
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: the car and then the handlers dropped her off and said,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: by the way, he's broken up with you.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, savage.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: And you're out. And she's like, oh, no, I'm not.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: She has signed an NDA with him since, with him
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: in 2017, but she's trying to get out of it.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: Can I please? Yes, please. To anyone listening, if you're
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: in a relationship with anyone who's high level and they
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: ask you to sign an NDA, I advise you to
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: rip it up and tell them to go fuck themselves.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: Do not sign that piece of paper.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: You were asked to sign an NDA at one time,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: I'm guessing.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: And did you sign it?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Good for you.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: My voice is all I have.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: I got a little baby to take care of.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: I got a little baby to take care of. I
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: don't want to see that in the morning.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: So, you know, because now she's trying to say, I
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: want to get this NDA. You know, she's not happy
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: because this is what was so weird.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: She said that.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: They made a deal that she could live there even
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: after they broke up for like five years. So she's
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: suing for what the rent would be to live in
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: a $ 30 million mansion for five years. I mean, she's
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: never going to win.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. But I think there's something.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: No, she should have gotten something signed. Right.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: Or when you are someone that you're with someone like
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: that and you're not getting married and you're not, and
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: you don't have a baby with them. So you really
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: don't have something to, you really do need to be like,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: you know what I'd.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: Like for my birthday? An apartment building in my name.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: So if this doesn't work out, I've got something for
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: the amount of time that I put into our relationship
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: versus a career.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: If I'm your companion, but you don't want to marry me,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: you don't want to have kids with me, fine. But like,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: let me have something that, and then the, but I
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: just think there's something so interesting about tricking someone like
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: out of your house, whether it's like a weird roommate
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: or a guest that stayed too long and you're just like, No, no.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: We're going on a fabulous trip. He's going to meet
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: you there.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: And then they're like, I'll follow you down. I just
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: forgot to feed the dog. Lock the door.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: Wait.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: There's something so scary about someone who's like, I've always
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: been obsessed with like people that are like squatters and
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: they like stay at your house and then they're just
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: not going to leave. Like there was a whole documentary
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: about it. Like people that move in and you, and
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: then they're just like, well, I'm not leaving. And then
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: they make your life so much hell that you like
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: have to leave.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: Um, hello. Everyone wants to talk about this like house
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: that I used to live in and how fabulous it was.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: It was not, it was low down. I was very grateful.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: But it definitely, like, if I had the choice, I
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: would never want to live there. It was, like, kind
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: of a shithole. And next door, there was a house
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: that was for sale. They were hoarders. They ended up
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: being put in a home. They cleaned it out. Squatters
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: were there. Months on end. Called the police. They could
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: not get rid of them. They're like, there's nothing we
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: can do.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Literally.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: And I was ready to pop. I had like a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: brand new baby. These people were doing shady shit in
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: the garage. They'd have U-Hauls come up. What a nightmare
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: in Bel Air. Yes, at three in the morning with
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: like motorcycles that they'd put into the garage and then
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: lock the garage. Yeah. And we called the police. They're like,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: there's literally nothing we can do unless the owner comes
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: and says they're not allowed to be here. I'm like,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: the owners are in an old folks home. They don't
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: even know where they are. Like, I'm ready to have
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: a baby and I don't know what sketchy stuff is
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: going on next door. So, like, I wasn't... You.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: Don't need to wake up to this in the morning.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see this in the morning. I
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: don't want to see this ever.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: I've got a little baby to take care of. I'm
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: just going to keep saying that over anything. Anyway, it
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: was crazy.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: Miami, we're going to end on Miami. Of course, this
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: was all about Seeing Lisa's finding out that her husband,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: the plastic surgeon, was living a double life with his mistress.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: Kind of right in front of her eyes, too. The
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: hot tub story. Yeah. Talking a little too close.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: She brings that up in the reunion. Yeah.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: That she was like, what's going on over here? That
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: was a little, that was a little Tom and Raquel.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: That was, I mean, it. And then, but he was,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: he's trying to get her kicked out of the house.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: And she's like, nope.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not leaving.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: Good. I'm glad.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I love Lisa.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: He should have tricked her on a fun trip. He
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: should have said, I'm going to take you on a
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: fun trip and then get her out of the house. No,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: of course he couldn't do that because they have two kids.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: But like, yeah, she, it's, this show is really good.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: The Miami show.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: It's very good. And anyone who's not watching it is
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: missing out. There's so many people.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: There's a reunion on tonight. On Thursday that we can watch. Yeah.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Thursday.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, how many fun things to look forward to.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Girl, you tell everybody you've got Lala Baby. Give them
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: Lala Baby clothing line. You have, give them Lala makeup.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: Did you sell out of the Bambi Eyed Bitch palette?
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, thank God. I thought I was gonna, obviously I
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: would never burn them. I would have donated them, but
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: I just liked the, I liked the wording better of saying,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: thank God that we sold out. I thought I was
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: gonna have to burn the rest rather than like I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: thought we were going to have to donate the rest
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: to charity because that didn't seem as savage. Kind-hearted, but
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: not as savage. I would have donated the rest, but
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: thank God we sold out.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, what else? You got the sweatshirt. Send it to Daryl. Yep.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: You brought us a pair, a couple sweatshirts. I'm excited
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: to take a photo in.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: Send it to Daryl. You can get merch on shoplalakent.com,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: beauty and skin at givethemlala.com. If you have little ones, givethemlalababy.com.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: You have your show, your podcast.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Yep, Give Them Lala. wherever you get your podcasts, new
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: episode every Wednesday.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: And of course, this is all real. This was not done.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: The producers didn't do this, according to Teddy Mellencamp. Lisa
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: Vanderpump did not pay Raquel, in your opinion, to have
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: an affair with Tom Sandoval. I was like, when I
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: first saw that headline about Teddy, I'm like, she's basically
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: accusing Lisa Vanderpump of sex trafficking.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: Basically. Wait, Teddy thinks that she set this whole thing up?
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: She set it, but then when I listened, which is
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: why you need to listen, people.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: You have to. It's clickbait.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: When you see a headline from a podcast, give it
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: a listen. And Teddy, it was a throwaway line.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Right. She's like, who knows? Lisa Vanderpump, you know, like,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: it was, she was not being serious.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: No, I know. They love to glom onto those things.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: They're not reading, you know, the news. Like, so just like,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: you know, but I thought that was interesting. But no,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: everyone that thinks that this is done. I mean, I
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: know from it's not. It's all happened.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: You can't make this up. Yeah.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: It's so dark. It keeps me up at night. It's
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: very triggering. Like, I just think everyone is so evil
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: until they prove to me that they're not. Yeah.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: And so you guys continue to watch. We've got a
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: bunch more episodes left. You guys still film the reunion.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: Next week. So watch it in real life. Watch it
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: on the show from seven months back.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: It's juicy. Oh, it's a juicy scoop.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: Love you, girl.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: Love you, babe.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: Well, everybody, I know you loved when I had Dr.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Drew on Tuesday. And we talked for so much more.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: And you're going to get it if you're part of Patreon.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: Go to HeatherMcDonald.net. Click on Patreon. I'll have an episode
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: there Friday.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: And then if you're part of my other level, which
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: is called Get Me Behind Gates, I have a really
• 1:29:08
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• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: very personal stuff with my family.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: And it's super juicy. And go to heathermcdonald.net. Click on Patreon. Thanks.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 8: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 8: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 8: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 8: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 8: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 8: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
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  Speaker 8: click and collect.
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  Speaker 4: So easy.
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  Speaker 8: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.