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Twins ask for $1.7bil, Ohtani’s on a mound, No Burnes until game 5? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, I will, And before we charge, I just
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Speaker 2: would like to say thank you Eric for your hospitality yesterday,
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Speaker 2: setting the bar high for AJ, who will not reply
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Speaker 2: to what you did, which was make Scottie friendly chocolate
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Speaker 2: chip cupcakes. I was gonna say muffins, for they muffins
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Speaker 2: or cupcakes yesterday. It feels like a year ago. Cupcakes.
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Speaker 2: AJ pressures on if you ever want to make me cupcakes.
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Speaker 1: Sure, I'm making with dairy and cheese and all kinds
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Speaker 1: of stuff.
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Speaker 3: Oh he never comes back, yeah exactly.
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Speaker 1: Or I never leave.
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Speaker 2: Wait, I'll never leave.
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Speaker 1: Well, you'll leave, just not upright.
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Speaker 2: I don't know right exactly I'll leave. I just won't
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Speaker 2: be in one piece. All right, Let's try and do
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Speaker 2: some bizz here. Let's charge stop the presses. The Twins
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Speaker 2: are for sale. It's a great story though. In The
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Speaker 2: Athletic by bridgeroli, O, Ken Rosen and Dan Hayes, who
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Speaker 2: covers the team, they spoke about the pole Ad family
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Speaker 2: and what they're looking for and why a sale hasn't
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Speaker 2: happened yet. The number one reason why a sale hasn't
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Speaker 2: happened yet is that they thought they had their man.
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Speaker 2: They're winning bitter justin Zvia, who ended up investing more
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Speaker 2: in the Chicago White Sox, and I still think he's
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Speaker 2: eventually going to own that team. But let's focus on
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Speaker 2: the Twins. They are seeking at least one point seven
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Speaker 2: billion dollars. They are currently accepting bids. So if you
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Speaker 2: have interest and you would like to accept a bid,
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Speaker 2: read this article and you can figure out how. Just
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Speaker 2: so you know, the bar has been set because they're
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Speaker 2: seeking at least one point seven and apparently there was
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Speaker 2: a group that submitted in the one and a half
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Speaker 2: bill range and they were like, no chance. The other
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Speaker 2: caveat is they have just about as much debt as
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Speaker 2: any team in baseball. This is normal, but it does
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Speaker 2: factor into how a sales process goes four hundred and
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Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars in debt, It depends on the sale.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes the person new selling takes all of that debt
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Speaker 2: and subtracts it from the sale price so that minimizes
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Speaker 2: the profit. They'll still be okay. They bought the team
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Speaker 2: for let's see, in nineteen eighty four, forty four million dollars,
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Speaker 2: so even if they did a deal for one and
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Speaker 2: a half billion dollars, let's do some quick math here,
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Speaker 2: they would still be making a cool what one bill
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Speaker 2: ish range on that sale. And I know it was
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Speaker 2: a long time ago, but even if they said we'll
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Speaker 2: take the four to twenty five all to ourself, That
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Speaker 2: is the story. The one other part that I found
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Speaker 2: super interesting here Aj, and then jump in since you
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Speaker 2: played for this team, is that Joe Pohlad reportedly wants
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Speaker 2: to still be involved and potentially even control the team.
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Speaker 2: That seems to be a factor here with some of
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Speaker 2: these families who disagree on a sales process. And I'm
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Speaker 2: reading this in the article and I'm like, he wants
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Speaker 2: to still control the team as and he doesn't want
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Speaker 2: them to sell, or he wants to be part of
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Speaker 2: the next group because the next group's going to be
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Speaker 2: like get the heck out of here. But what did
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Speaker 2: you take from that part.
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Speaker 1: That he's crazy if he thinks that that's going to happen.
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Speaker 1: You're selling the team. That means you go bye bye
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Speaker 1: bye bye pole ads bye bye because you're making a profit.
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Speaker 1: But then why sell if you want to beat your
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Speaker 1: aren't control of the team and you're running it into
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Speaker 1: the ground apparently, So I don't I don't agree with this,
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Speaker 1: Like why would a new owner come in and say, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: by the way, we know that your family bought this forever,
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Speaker 1: we feel so sorry for you, we're going to keep
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Speaker 1: you on board. No, that's what happens. The owners come
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Speaker 1: in and they redo the whole thing. They start at
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Speaker 1: the top and redo, restructure everything, and that's that's what
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Speaker 1: whoever buys this team should do. But yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: it's just an insane request, but it doesn't surprise me
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Speaker 1: having played for the Pole Ads and saw some of
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Speaker 3: I think sometimes people with this kind of money, like
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Speaker 3: talking billions and billions of dollars, they just I think
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Speaker 3: they sometimes live in like a like an alternate universe,
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Speaker 3: a metaverse where you're like, yeah, you know what, it
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Speaker 3: just came out. There's four hundred and twenty five million
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Speaker 3: in debt on a team that hasn't been able to
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Speaker 3: produce good teams in the last few years. Like what like,
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Speaker 3: what would make that be awesome on your resume for
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Speaker 3: us to keep you around? Like you've not done great
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Speaker 3: with it financially or winning championships. So when you had
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Speaker 3: good players, you got rid of them. Like to me,
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Speaker 3: it's just just get your money, go do something else.
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Speaker 3: Whatever you got, you got weird hobbies, go collect art
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Speaker 3: or something like that.
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Speaker 2: We'll clarify later this week with Ken Rosenthal. But what
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Speaker 2: if it means that he doesn't want to sell the
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Speaker 2: team and other people in the fam want to sell
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Speaker 2: the team. That could be the case here too, where
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Speaker 2: he still wants to control things and see how that goes.
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Speaker 2: The other part that shocked me was how they put
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Speaker 2: the finances together here, because there have been some issues lately.
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Speaker 2: So first off, they don't don't own the ballpark, but
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Speaker 2: that was their choice. You ask the city for money,
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Speaker 2: you leased the ballpark from the city, you don't own
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Speaker 2: the ballpark. That's pretty obvious. Number Two, they used to
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Speaker 2: make fifty plus mil on the TV side. They chose
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Speaker 2: to work with MLB, which is their right, but you're
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Speaker 2: gonna make less money that way, so that costs them
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Speaker 2: money that decision. And here's the biggest one for me
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Speaker 2: aj they won the American League Central in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: three and didn't really capitalize on the attendance side. Here's
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Speaker 2: a little secret that's not that secretive. When you have
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Speaker 2: a really good year, the boom year is actually the
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Speaker 2: next year. That's when season tickets usually skyrocket, ticket sales
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Speaker 2: and general attendance sales for other things right around the ballpark, merch, etc.
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Speaker 2: The Twins won the division, did a little bit of
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Speaker 2: dancing in the playoffs right, got through one round, and
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Speaker 2: then did absolutely nothing for two years. All you had
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Speaker 2: to do was a little bit give you give your
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Speaker 2: fans a little sign that you still care about them.
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Speaker 2: And I think that you would have gotten a much,
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Speaker 2: much warmer welcome from the fan base. So they they
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Speaker 2: worked up to this point and then finally, when you're
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Speaker 2: able to capitalize and make more money, they stopped. They
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Speaker 2: turned the faucet OFFU.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, because listen, in two thousand and six
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Speaker 1: is when we drew all the fans, not two thousand
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Speaker 1: and five, the year we won. It's always the next
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Speaker 1: year because the fans are excited, we want a championship.
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Speaker 1: We can do it again. The Twins won their first
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Speaker 1: playoff series since two thousand and two. Think about that
9:36
Speaker 1: two thousand and two when I was still on Minnesota Twin.
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Speaker 1: It's a long time ago. In twenty twenty three, now, granted,
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Speaker 1: they beat the Blue Jays, who also have a not
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Speaker 1: a stellar postseason pedigree in the last thirty years. But
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Speaker 1: they beat the Blue Jays, they make it to the DS,
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Speaker 1: they lose to the Astros, and the fans are all excited, Yes,
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Speaker 1: if we can go out and get one more bat
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Speaker 1: or one more pitcher or one more this. And what
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Speaker 1: do they do. They say, no, we're chopping the payroll.
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Speaker 1: And then they did it again. So yeah, that's not
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Speaker 1: instilling a lot of confidence. In your ownership slash whatever
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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, listen, they have Derek Falve in charge,
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Speaker 1: you had Dad Levine in charge, who were two great
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Speaker 1: baseball minds who both have been around and done some
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Speaker 1: special things with different organizations. So to me, it's just
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Speaker 1: a surprise that they didn't go out and try to
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Speaker 1: capitalize it because they had the city. The Vikings were
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Speaker 1: down at the time, the Wild were down at the time,
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Speaker 1: the Timberwolves were down but growing, and the Twins were
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Speaker 1: the team and they, you know, outside baseball fairly new stadium,
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Speaker 1: a stadium people love to go to, and then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden they're like, yeah, we're cutting the payroll.
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Speaker 1: And listen, I have a lot of friends still in
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Speaker 1: Minnesota from when I played there. They weren't very happy.
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Speaker 1: They're disappointed. They're sad because they want to win. They
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Speaker 1: want to put a winner on the field, and they
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Speaker 1: think they can do it because they will draw, they
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Speaker 1: will come out. But you gotta you gotta give them.
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Speaker 1: You got to give them hope, and you got to
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Speaker 1: give them something to look forward to.
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Speaker 3: And don't forget that they lied to Carlos Korea told him, hey,
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Speaker 3: you signed this nice contract after he'd been there for
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Speaker 3: a year saying hey, we're gonna We're gonna build around you.
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Speaker 1: This isn't it.
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Speaker 3: You can't get much closer to this, is it? After
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Speaker 3: they signed him. I think they've spent nine million in
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Speaker 3: free agency since they since they signed or maybe that
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Speaker 3: was that was at the beginning of this offseason, so
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Speaker 3: maybe it's a little bit more. Oh wait, they didn't
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Speaker 3: make that may signings this offseason either. But and that's
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Speaker 3: not that's not a Derek Fouby thing. That's not a
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Speaker 3: rockaball Deli thing. That's ownership saying you know what, we'll
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Speaker 3: just go ahead with what we got.
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Speaker 2: Correct, So to be continued. Right now, they're accepting bids
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Speaker 2: and we'll keep you posting on what happens here. But
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Speaker 2: Twins fans are obviously restless and desperately desperately looking for
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Speaker 2: someone else to take over this team, all right, coming out?
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Speaker 1: So listen, No, let's say this. There's a reason why
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Speaker 1: the Ishbos didn't buy this team. I mean they want to,
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Speaker 1: They clearly want to buy a team. There's a reason
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Speaker 1: why they pivoted and went back to the White Sox.
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Speaker 1: Something wasn't right there. Now, whether it was the polloud
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Speaker 1: kids saying I want to stay on, or there was
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Speaker 1: something in the deal they didn't like. But there's clearly
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Speaker 1: a reason because they have the money to go out
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Speaker 1: and they can just write a check and be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we'll take this team off your hands. There's a reason
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Speaker 1: why they did it. Now we don't know that reason,
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Speaker 1: but I have a feeling there's also another group that
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Speaker 1: I know, think I know tried to buy this team,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure how it went, but it could
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Speaker 1: have been, you know, I think it was around the
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, this is a guest. You said
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Speaker 1: a one point five billion dollar bit. I think I
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Speaker 1: know who it was. It can't divulge it, but I
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Speaker 1: think I have an idea. And if they didn't buy it,
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Speaker 1: there's also a reason why they didn't buy it. So
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
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Speaker 3: And if you look like who knows about all that stuff?
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Speaker 3: But financially, if you pay forty four million dollars for
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Speaker 3: a team and you're looking, let's say they get even
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Speaker 3: on the low end one point five million, one point
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Speaker 3: four billion dollars not million billion out of it, you've
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Speaker 3: essentially doubled what you would have made in the investment portfolio.
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Speaker 3: You think of the law of sevens. Every seven years
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Speaker 3: your money, your money multiplies doubled that so you've already
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Speaker 3: extended how much you would have made. And to me,
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Speaker 3: if you would have put a little bit of that
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Speaker 3: future sale money into it, you would have been able
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Speaker 3: to sell the team for a lot more. Would be
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Speaker 3: a desirable thing. And oh yeah, you actually like the
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Speaker 3: investment that you have and not feel like, you know what,
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Speaker 3: I don't have any interest in it. Time to get out.
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Speaker 2: I also think maybe Ishbia really wanted the White Sox.
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Speaker 2: Could have been a leverage play. I don't know. Maybe
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Speaker 2: one day he'll talk about it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Chicago. Maybe they're from Chicago, they're
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Speaker 1: White Sox people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a bargaining chip. Maybe just throwing it
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Speaker 2: out there. All right, we're going right to Tory Leavello
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Speaker 2: talking about Corbin Burns starting Game five instead of game
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Speaker 2: what one or two for Arizona. Here he is.
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Speaker 1: This was probably a technical era. I'm my part. I'll
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Speaker 1: take the responsibility for that.
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Speaker 4: You know, Corbin is a very routine oriented player and
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Speaker 4: I've yet to understand that until recently. And he's got
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Speaker 4: a process and I respect that, and I blame myself
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Speaker 4: for not getting to know him how important the routine
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Speaker 4: in the days, day by day, hour by hour, minute
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Speaker 4: by minute, and second by second. He is elite in
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Speaker 4: the space, and you know, it took me a little
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Speaker 4: time to figure that out. So when we stepped into
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Speaker 4: a space where where we had to make an adjustment
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Speaker 4: that he wasn't going to start opening day, we had
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Speaker 4: to recalibrate and get him on the right routine. And
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Speaker 4: I respect that one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: And it's just.
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Speaker 4: The way it lands, and that's kind of what we're
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Speaker 4: going to do and work it backwards. So he's going
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Speaker 4: to throw in a backfield game on our day off
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Speaker 4: here and then get starting number one in New York.
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Speaker 4: In this case, it was like a perfect storm. And
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Speaker 4: while I was taking my time, which I thought I
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Speaker 4: was being the most responsible thing I was, I was
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Speaker 4: throwing the rhythm off is to the time that we
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Speaker 4: had on the back side of it.
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Speaker 1: So that's why I blame myself.
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Speaker 4: But I wanted to be thorough and I wanted to
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Speaker 4: watch and observe before I made some very very crucial decisions.
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Speaker 2: I wish a j I was manager. I would have
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Speaker 2: just been like, yeah, I watched his stuff this spring
15:14
Speaker 2: training looks like fifth starter stuff.
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Speaker 1: No, you know what, you should have came out and said,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I messed up, guys. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: kind of what he said. He just said it was
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Speaker 1: no he did, but he said it with a lot
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Speaker 1: of words. He could have just been, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I messed up, guys. But you know what, he's gonna
15:28
Speaker 1: still pitch the fifth game. He's the best fifth starter
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Speaker 1: in baseball. We move on. It's got the best fifth
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Speaker 1: starter stuff. He doesn't throw bullpens in between starts, so
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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be that big of a deal. His routine
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Speaker 1: is his routine. And you know what, we still have
15:38
Speaker 1: some guy that I don't even know who he is.
15:41
Speaker 1: What's Zach? What's he look like? Zach Gallant? Who is he?
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Speaker 1: Never heard him? I don't even he walks right by me.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know who he is. So yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's not like they have not many starting pitchers. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Gallon Rodriguez fought right, Merrill Kelly and then oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: by the way, your fifth starter is carbon Burns, who's
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Speaker 1: halfway decent or maybe the Diamond of Acts are just
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Speaker 1: smarter than the rest of us, and they're like, we're
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Speaker 1: going to put our one of our best pitchers against
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Speaker 1: the other team's fifth starter.
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Speaker 3: HA game in the system auto win.
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Speaker 2: I will say this as someone who spent a lot
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Speaker 2: of time in New York in life. If this happened
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Speaker 2: in New York, Philly, Boston, you know, it's burns and
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16:26
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Speaker 2: He's gonna throw a bullpen on Saturday. According to manager
17:39
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts, it's going to be the first time he's
17:41
Speaker 2: throwing off a mound since February twenty fifth, AJ that
17:45
Speaker 2: was a month ago.
17:47
Speaker 1: I agree. Hold on, before we get in this, I
17:48
Speaker 1: know not everyone got to see what we talked about
17:50
Speaker 1: in between. We talked about Corbyn, Burnsby and the fifth Starter.
17:53
Speaker 1: You know it, first star comes in Yankee Stadium. Maybe
17:55
Speaker 1: there was more to it than we knew. His first
17:58
Speaker 1: start is in Yankee Stadium, not in Arizona. Again, I'm
18:02
Speaker 1: not saying that they didn't, but you know, not bad
18:04
Speaker 1: to have your fifth starter going up in first first
18:07
Speaker 1: game in Yankee Stadium, just saying maybe it wasn't as
18:10
Speaker 1: unintentional as we thought. But anyways, yes, just to me,
18:14
Speaker 1: show Hey, because you know what, I don't care about
18:15
Speaker 1: show Hay throwing a bullpen whoop do you do? Let
18:17
Speaker 1: me know when he's back on a mound throwing for real,
18:18
Speaker 1: because if I guess, this is gonna be the one,
18:21
Speaker 1: So do hey. Look, show Hey, show Hey picked up
18:24
Speaker 1: a baseball today and threw it with his right arm.
18:26
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we got to do a breakout session
18:28
Speaker 1: on it. Clinton Alan, I got to talk about this
18:30
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes because show Hey threw seven balls from
18:33
Speaker 1: ninety feet. Don't care. Let me know what he gets
18:35
Speaker 1: on a mound. He's facing hitters. Thank you? Talk about
18:38
Speaker 1: you that?
18:39
Speaker 3: Hang on? Hang on, I'm pulling a tweet that says
18:43
Speaker 3: I just shook show Hey Otani's hand, and that tweet
18:48
Speaker 3: was from aj Prazinski.
18:50
Speaker 1: So I did I actually tweeted that. I don't think
18:54
Speaker 1: I actually tweeted that. I said it, and then I said,
18:56
Speaker 1: who wants to buy my hand? Because I touch you
18:58
Speaker 1: hate it and rokie his hand at the same time.
19:01
Speaker 1: So no, I didn't tweet that because listen, like a
19:04
Speaker 1: normal folk. He was sitting there eating his bacon and
19:06
Speaker 1: eggs in his locker, you know, smiling. Mookie's over there.
19:10
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to get sick for Mookie's just like
19:12
Speaker 1: a day before they left for Japan, so you know,
19:14
Speaker 1: then I see Rookie and y'all, Momono is pitching that day.
19:17
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, making the rounds with
19:19
Speaker 1: the lawner. You guys should try it.
19:21
Speaker 3: Show Hey's still throwing. People need to make sure they
19:25
Speaker 3: didn't freak out. He didn't not throw from February. He
19:28
Speaker 3: has still been throwing. He just hasn't gotten off the mound.
19:31
Speaker 3: It's progression that everybody takes. It's going to be difficult.
19:35
Speaker 3: We talked about it with Jeff Passing earlier. I don't
19:39
Speaker 3: know a j said it. He can't go to Oklahoma
19:42
Speaker 3: City and rehab position players don't. I don't think they
19:45
Speaker 3: necessarily rehab a pitcher coming back from Tommy John surgery
19:49
Speaker 3: needs to rehab. Guys. Check the schedule. The Marlins are
19:54
Speaker 3: sending some of our rent to people over to Dodger
19:58
Speaker 3: Stadium to face show Hay. At one point thirty oh yeah,
20:03
Speaker 3: and show, hey's gonna be a little tired from that.
20:06
Speaker 3: He's still gonna d h that night. It's I don't
20:10
Speaker 3: envy that for the Dodger staff at all, because he
20:13
Speaker 3: can't go and rehab and he has to build a
20:15
Speaker 3: pitch down up if he's actually going to be a starter.
20:21
Speaker 2: He is going to be a starter, you guys with
20:23
Speaker 2: your conspiracy theory.
20:24
Speaker 1: He has to be a starter because that's the only
20:26
Speaker 1: way they can guarantee he's gonna get in the game. Yeah,
20:28
Speaker 1: so he has to start like this whole conspiracy that
20:30
Speaker 1: he's going to be a closer. He has to be
20:32
Speaker 1: a starter because you can't bring him in the ninth
20:34
Speaker 1: inning and be like, hey, show, hey, I'm pitching two
20:35
Speaker 1: years go close out a game that could be meaningful,
20:37
Speaker 1: like I He has to be a starter because then
20:39
Speaker 1: you have to have somebody to piggyback them. Now, who
20:41
Speaker 1: do you pick the piggyback them? Snell Yamamoto, Sazaki may Last, now,
20:50
Speaker 1: Nat Bobby Miller, who do you pick to be the piggyback?
20:52
Speaker 1: Because someone's gonna that's the question. Because but you're gonna
20:57
Speaker 1: have to have a starter piggyback him to get some
20:59
Speaker 1: link unless you going with a six man rotation, seven man.
21:02
Speaker 2: Rotation, Otani's going to pitch, It'll probably not be until
21:10
Speaker 2: about halfway through the season. They are not expecting or
21:14
Speaker 2: needing one hundred and fifty plus innings out of him.
21:18
Speaker 2: I think even one hundred might be a stretch at
21:20
Speaker 2: this point. They'd like him to be in a good
21:22
Speaker 2: groove heading into the playoffs, where then he can pitch
21:25
Speaker 2: and hit if it's all working out for him. What
21:28
Speaker 2: I did learn from this conversation is that we should
21:30
Speaker 2: do some type of segment with eighties music called when
21:33
Speaker 2: will He Pitch? And keep doing Otani updates every time
21:37
Speaker 2: we get one morsel of an update about the situation.
21:40
Speaker 2: I actually genuinely am interested in this topic because of
21:43
Speaker 2: the uniqueness of it. I don't care about most rehab
21:46
Speaker 2: processes because you just want to know when the guy's
21:48
Speaker 2: coming back, so I want the timetable. But with this one,
21:51
Speaker 2: I am actually curious because you don't have a previous playbook,
21:56
Speaker 2: So we'll keep that in mind. We'll try to get
21:58
Speaker 2: to something that AJ's much more more interested in. So
22:01
Speaker 2: let's do power rankings.
22:03
Speaker 1: Yeah see, I mean, come on, thanks, We're going to
22:06
Speaker 1: talk about where Won Soto will go again?
22:08
Speaker 3: I shut his hand?
22:10
Speaker 2: Where will Glady go? Todd z A Lacki covers the
22:13
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Phillies for MLB dot Com. He's also one of
22:17
Speaker 2: the star hosts on the Phillies show. He reports Ranger
22:19
Speaker 2: Suarez is going to open up the season on the
22:21
Speaker 2: injured list. Dave Dombraski said, if things continue to progress,
22:25
Speaker 2: he would pitch some time in April, but he needs
22:27
Speaker 2: to be built up again. You're talking three weeks or
22:30
Speaker 2: something at least, so that gives Taiwan Walker an opportunity
22:34
Speaker 2: to really resurrect his career. He was terrible last year
22:38
Speaker 2: and apparently looks better this spring. Crats, what can you
22:42
Speaker 2: tell us about Ranger and Taiwan?
22:45
Speaker 3: I mean, Ranger spends a little bit of time on
22:48
Speaker 3: il every year, but at the beginning of his career
22:50
Speaker 3: he was transitioning bullpen starter bullpen starter. They kind of
22:54
Speaker 3: started to do that with Christopher Sanchez. Now Christopher Sanchez
22:57
Speaker 3: has solidified himself. He should just be a star. So
23:01
Speaker 3: I think it's difficult sometimes and doesn't sound like it's
23:05
Speaker 3: that big a deal, But the Dodgers have ten starting
23:08
Speaker 3: rotation pieces. The Phillies in a normal year would have
23:13
Speaker 3: a ridiculous amount of depth. Knowing that they have Taiwan
23:17
Speaker 3: Walker as their starter. Well, this helps you know he's
23:21
Speaker 3: gonna slide into the fifth starter. The only thing I've
23:24
Speaker 3: heard and seen from his starts and it will make
23:27
Speaker 3: Phillies fans super pissed. He looked good in spring training.
23:31
Speaker 1: He looked good.
23:32
Speaker 3: His velocity was up two to three miles per hour
23:34
Speaker 3: on average, which allowed his splitter to stay at the
23:39
Speaker 3: same velocity, so his fastball velocities up, his split velocity
23:43
Speaker 3: stayed the same, and now instead of being like two
23:46
Speaker 3: miles an hour difference, they're like four to five. So
23:49
Speaker 3: we'll see if he can resurrect his career. If not,
23:53
Speaker 3: he might not be a Philly at the end of
23:55
Speaker 3: April when Ranger comes.
23:57
Speaker 2: Back and Philly fans obviously are going to get out
24:00
Speaker 2: after him. But if he starts off strong, they will
24:03
Speaker 2: accept him and give him a big hug. But aj
24:05
Speaker 2: the first start or two is big, right, Like if
24:09
Speaker 2: the fifth starts him, okay, but the first or second start,
24:12
Speaker 2: if he gets blown.
24:13
Speaker 1: Out, He's got to get off to a good start,
24:16
Speaker 1: especially with a team that's supposed to be competing for
24:18
Speaker 1: a world series. He's got to get off to a
24:19
Speaker 1: good start because everyone's everyone, including Cross be like, get
24:23
Speaker 1: rid of this bum, get rid of them. We're gonna
24:25
Speaker 1: throw pizza at them and stuff. I mean, whatever they
24:27
Speaker 1: do in Philly. I don't even know what they do
24:29
Speaker 1: in Philly.
24:30
Speaker 3: Batteries, batteries and snowballs at Santa they definitely do that.
24:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, pizza, That doesn't make a good dad.
24:38
Speaker 1: That was Boston. Sorry, that was Boston through pizza in Boston. Sorry.
24:42
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess they're a little sweeter up there.
24:44
Speaker 2: You see this little quote from Juan Soto, he is
24:49
Speaker 2: expecting the worst when he returns to Yankee Stadium. He said,
24:53
Speaker 2: you know, Yankee fans, they can surprise you with anything,
24:57
Speaker 2: So I'm expecting the worst. It's having fun with it.
25:02
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna do some gladiator? Are you
25:06
Speaker 2: not entertained? Type of situation? AJ When it's Mets Yanks,
25:10
Speaker 2: which has really heated up, by the way, and here's
25:13
Speaker 2: Derek Lewandowski, our Pinstripe territory superstar. By the way, we're
25:16
Speaker 2: gonna boo the absolute shit out a month. So no,
25:21
Speaker 2: and that got he deserves it.
25:23
Speaker 1: He knows, he knows it. Yeah, he knows. He's having
25:26
Speaker 1: fun with it, he's enjoying it. He knows what Yankee
25:28
Speaker 1: fans are about. I have no problem with him saying this.
25:30
Speaker 1: I think it's better that he brought it up now
25:32
Speaker 1: instead of waiting. Bring it up, talk about it, like
25:34
Speaker 1: get things out in the open. I love it when
25:36
Speaker 1: players do his white what we're gonna let it fester
25:38
Speaker 1: and like, oh no, big bad Yankee Stadium's coming. Oh whoop.
25:41
Speaker 1: The dude like no, like it's great. He's like, yeah,
25:44
Speaker 1: bring it on, Yankee fans. I'm ready for you. How
25:47
Speaker 1: about one at bat?
25:48
Speaker 3: How about one at bat that cheer the man who
25:50
Speaker 3: helped them get to the World Series that they hadn't
25:52
Speaker 3: been to since two thousand and nine. Just one at
25:55
Speaker 3: bat and then for the next fifteen years, for the
25:58
Speaker 3: next fifteen years on tract, boom him, boo him. Every
26:03
Speaker 3: single time Jason Worth helped help the Phillies, help the
26:06
Speaker 3: Phillies win a World Series. Every time he came to
26:10
Speaker 3: Citizens Bank, they boot him, celebrate that man one time,
26:14
Speaker 3: just won at bat, and then boom him the rest
26:17
Speaker 3: of the time.
26:20
Speaker 1: Nope, not happening. You're gonna tell Philly fans to cheer
26:23
Speaker 1: for somebody. Nope, they're gonna boom.
26:26
Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna see you guys. They should have cheered.
26:30
Speaker 3: They should have cheered for Jason Worth. He did, should
26:33
Speaker 3: have awesome stuff for that team for years and so
26:39
Speaker 3: you can get the booze in afterwards. But just a
26:42
Speaker 3: little cheer, just a little bit.
26:44
Speaker 2: If the Yankees had won the World Series and then
26:46
Speaker 2: he spurned them for the Mets, who did make a
26:48
Speaker 2: higher offer, would he have gotten a little cheer. I
26:50
Speaker 2: actually do think he would have if they won. But
26:52
Speaker 2: Yankee fans are at winning a World Series, Yes, he
26:54
Speaker 2: would have gotten a little standing up. I think they
26:57
Speaker 2: would have done that. You don't think that's.
27:03
Speaker 3: I still think he did everything possible. He was brought in,
27:06
Speaker 3: did not disappoint at all. Yankees fans are posting all
27:09
Speaker 3: the dropped fly balls or miss reeds or bad routes
27:13
Speaker 3: that he had. They could not have been more. That
27:17
Speaker 3: was a spot on trade that worked out so well
27:20
Speaker 3: for the Yankees. They should cheer him just once. I'm
27:23
Speaker 3: not saying all the time, just once.
27:32
Speaker 2: We're just racking up futures bets right now. Bet MGM
27:35
Speaker 2: al Comeback Player of the Year. Mike Trout is leading
27:38
Speaker 2: the charge than Jacob de Grom. Trout's plus three hundred
27:41
Speaker 2: to Grom plus four fifty. Felix Bautista, the Orioles reliever,
27:45
Speaker 2: is plus five hundred. Boba set at plus six hundred,
27:48
Speaker 2: and Shane McClanahan checks in at plus six hundred as well.
27:51
Speaker 2: Of course, Shane's gonna miss the beginning of the season.
27:54
Speaker 2: Is there value on the board? Krats? Do you see
27:56
Speaker 2: anything you like.
28:00
Speaker 1: Felix Battista.
28:01
Speaker 3: Pitchers coming back from injuries need to be used really well.
28:06
Speaker 3: You don't abuse closers. I get it. You know, he
28:10
Speaker 3: can pitch two out of three days or whatever it is.
28:13
Speaker 3: They're not like, let's get him up in the seventh. No, no, okay,
28:17
Speaker 3: let's get him up in the eighth. Okay, now, let's
28:19
Speaker 3: get him up in the ninth. To me, I think
28:21
Speaker 3: that's where the bat. I think it was plus six hundred.
28:24
Speaker 3: I really like that, and I think he's gonna be
28:26
Speaker 3: plus five hundred. I think it's gonna be awesome everybody else.
28:30
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot lots surrounding the other guys
28:33
Speaker 3: on that board, and he's gonna be the closer of
28:35
Speaker 3: a team that's gonna win ninety plus games.
28:40
Speaker 1: Agreed. I agree with what Kratzy just said. I think
28:42
Speaker 1: he's the one on this list. Him, Him and the
28:44
Speaker 1: other guy is Bobachhett to me, because it's a contract here,
28:47
Speaker 1: and I think, and to be honest with you, I
28:49
Speaker 1: mean he's coming back. I mean he wasn't. It wasn't
28:52
Speaker 1: like to me a comeback player that you are you
28:54
Speaker 1: were out for a significant amount of time, like Felix
28:56
Speaker 1: Blatista was. I know Bobaschett missed some time. I know
28:59
Speaker 1: Mike Trump missed some time. Jacob mcgram obviously missed almost
29:02
Speaker 1: the whole year. I just don't think Jacob mcgrahm is
29:04
Speaker 1: going to get enough innings. They're going to be so
29:05
Speaker 1: careful with him that he's not going to be able
29:07
Speaker 1: to bounce back. Sean mcclanahan's already out to start the year,
29:11
Speaker 1: so that stinks for him. I think the two on
29:13
Speaker 1: this are Bautista and Baschet for me, because BOE's in
29:16
Speaker 1: a contract year, he wants to prove it to the
29:18
Speaker 1: Blue Jays that he's going to be worth it. And
29:20
Speaker 1: then to me, Felix Bautista is going to get an
29:21
Speaker 1: opportunity to make a lot of saves. And if he
29:23
Speaker 1: gets an opportunity, he saves thirty five games this year,
29:26
Speaker 1: how can you not give it to him? Coming back
29:27
Speaker 1: off Tommy John So, I love what, I love what kratsaid.
29:31
Speaker 2: I like Trout on the board here. I know he's
29:33
Speaker 2: the favorite at plus three hundred, but it's not plus
29:37
Speaker 2: one point fifty, it's plus three hundred. It's still good value.
29:40
Speaker 2: And I think that if he plays even one hundred games,
29:43
Speaker 2: he's going to produce and going to get a lot
29:46
Speaker 2: of love because this is an award that will go
29:48
Speaker 2: to a big name injured not just last year but
29:51
Speaker 2: for a long time now. So I do think there's
29:54
Speaker 2: actually serious consideration for trade. If you think he's going
29:56
Speaker 2: to stay on the field anyway, hit up that odds
29:59
Speaker 2: boost to It is that time of year for college hoops,
30:03
Speaker 2: so you can check it out for the women's March
30:05
Speaker 2: matchups as well. Use your token to score a bigger
30:08
Speaker 2: payout if you're women's March matchup. Bet wins gambling problem
30:11
Speaker 2: more concern called winne hundred Campling.
30:14
Speaker 5: We got Guardians versus Astros. Moving on against the Red Sox.
30:20
Speaker 5: We got Orioles versus Detroit. Orioles win that one. In
30:23
Speaker 5: the wild Cards, they go on to play Texas. Orioles
30:26
Speaker 5: end up beating Texas, Boston ends up beating the Guardians,
30:28
Speaker 5: and then Boston ends up going to the World Series
30:31
Speaker 5: on the AL side. On the NL side, we have
30:34
Speaker 5: Atlanta versus Milwaukee. Atlanta takes down Milwaukee in the first
30:37
Speaker 5: round and then Arizona and the Mets in the other
30:40
Speaker 5: side Wildcard, with the Mets taking that one. The Mets
30:43
Speaker 5: take on the Dodgers. The Dodgers take their first series,
30:45
Speaker 5: and the Phillies take on the Braves and take them
30:48
Speaker 5: down once again to go to the NLCS. Of inevitably,
30:53
Speaker 5: the Phillies make it to the World Series and take
30:55
Speaker 5: on the Boston Red Sox and your World Series cham Yes,
31:04
Speaker 5: party like at two thousand and eight in Philadelphia.
31:06
Speaker 2: Feelings nice well put together bracket by Trevor May in
31:13
Speaker 2: terms of how he explained it. Did you like it, AJ, Yeah.
31:17
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with what I don't have
31:18
Speaker 1: a problem with it. I could see I could make
31:20
Speaker 1: a case for everything he said. I mean, I picked
31:22
Speaker 1: the Red Sox as the highest AL team on my
31:24
Speaker 1: power rankings, and I had the Phillies what third of
31:27
Speaker 1: my power rankings, So I mean it could change in
31:29
Speaker 1: the next five minutes. But you know what, I like
31:32
Speaker 1: what Trevor's did here. His explanations make sense and you
31:34
Speaker 1: could see it. You can definitely see it happening.
31:38
Speaker 3: I agreed, agreed, And that's the Homer in me. It's funny,
31:42
Speaker 3: who you know? He has the Rangers losing, and we
31:46
Speaker 3: just talked to the Jeff Passon, who clearly sways AJ's decisions.
31:51
Speaker 3: He has the Rangers winning, So I mean, I think
31:55
Speaker 3: you have you have the regular people in there. I
31:58
Speaker 3: liked Haste he had the Brewers making the playoffs. I
32:03
Speaker 3: liked how he had that. So he's got all my
32:04
Speaker 3: Homer teams in there. So really, how mad could I
32:07
Speaker 3: be at Trevor.
32:10
Speaker 2: We'll do our predictions in the next day or two.
32:13
Speaker 2: How many people do you think I'm obviously just asking
32:17
Speaker 2: for a guestimate, what percentage AJ of writers and broadcasters
32:21
Speaker 2: and people that throw out predictions every year do you
32:24
Speaker 2: think are going to roll with the Dodgers or do
32:27
Speaker 2: you think that most people in baseball just can't buy
32:30
Speaker 2: into the fact that a team is going to win
32:32
Speaker 2: in back to back years.
32:35
Speaker 1: Listen, if you gave me the Dodgers of the field,
32:37
Speaker 1: I'd obviously take the field. But if you have to
32:39
Speaker 1: give me right now, say one team to win the
32:41
Speaker 1: World Series, I would have to say the Dodgers. I'll
32:44
Speaker 1: always take the field against one team. But if I
32:46
Speaker 1: have to make a prediction, Hey, who's gonna win the
32:48
Speaker 1: World Series? My prediction would be the Dodgers. Why because
32:51
Speaker 1: the depth and everything they have, and the starting pitching
32:54
Speaker 1: and their lineup and everything. And the biggest key for
32:56
Speaker 1: me is the resources and how they apply the resources.
33:00
Speaker 1: Talked about Jeff pass and talked about it. The resources
33:02
Speaker 1: and how they deploy those resources and use those resources.
33:05
Speaker 1: We saw last year. They're not afraid to go get
33:07
Speaker 1: a guy at the trade deadline. Oh we need Jack Flaherty,
33:09
Speaker 1: let's go get them. Oh we need Tommy Edmond, let's
33:11
Speaker 1: go get them. We need Michael Kopec Boom, We'll go
33:12
Speaker 1: get them. Right all those all three of those guys
33:14
Speaker 1: helped them win a World Series. They're not afraid to
33:16
Speaker 1: make the move when they need to.
33:18
Speaker 3: For McGough, Vargas, a guy that was already in the
33:20
Speaker 3: big leagues, like they're not afraid to go get rid
33:23
Speaker 3: of big league guys. If you talk about those resources.
33:26
Speaker 3: Years ago, when I was still playing back in like sixteen,
33:31
Speaker 3: teams were coming into Triple A facilities and completely eliminating
33:36
Speaker 3: all the like junk food out of there for their
33:39
Speaker 3: minor leaguers. I'm like, who was just in here? They
33:42
Speaker 3: were like Oklahoma City, the Dodgers Triple A at the time,
33:45
Speaker 3: and I'm like, WHOA. So they've been doing this stuff
33:47
Speaker 3: that Jeff was talking about in the really small areas
33:52
Speaker 3: to make a big difference in the big leagues, and
33:56
Speaker 3: you know it's paying off. But to me, no, don't.
33:59
Speaker 3: I don't picked the Dodgers. It doesn't mean they're not
34:01
Speaker 3: good enough. It just means it is tough to repeat.
34:06
Speaker 3: Things come up when you play so far into the
34:10
Speaker 3: into the offseason. Plus they were in Korea last year.
34:13
Speaker 3: That was a long season. Now they started their season
34:16
Speaker 3: in Japan. Yes, they learned from it, but their season
34:19
Speaker 3: just gets stretched farther and farther, and they don't have
34:23
Speaker 3: all the youngest players anymore.
34:25
Speaker 2: That sparked a quick story for me. I never do them,
34:28
Speaker 2: but I know someone that was high up in an organization,
34:31
Speaker 2: and it was a while back who pitched a plan
34:35
Speaker 2: to his owner to spend more money on food for players,
34:40
Speaker 2: but really for minor leaguers specifically. He's like, these are kids,
34:44
Speaker 2: they need to eat better, and I think if we
34:46
Speaker 2: do that and care more about performance and health, it
34:49
Speaker 2: will make a huge difference. And the number he came
34:51
Speaker 2: up with for how they were going to improve the
34:54
Speaker 2: food situation was super small in baseball terms. I'm talking
34:58
Speaker 2: six figures, not seven. And it might have been, you know,
35:01
Speaker 2: no more than five hundred k, but I think it
35:03
Speaker 2: was more like two hundred k. And the owner was like, no,
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Speaker 2: they can figure it out themselves, and he was like okay.
35:10
Speaker 2: And it definitely wasn't a strong organization, I'll put it
35:13
Speaker 2: that way. It's one that often gets made fun of.
35:16
Speaker 2: And that is where it doesn't matter what a salary
35:20
Speaker 2: cap looks like, how many players you buy all of that.
35:23
Speaker 2: If you don't have someone that believes in some of
35:26
Speaker 2: those little things and your front office puts all of
35:28
Speaker 2: that work together and really sells you on a case
35:30
Speaker 2: like that, sure they're not just going to keep flooding
35:32
Speaker 2: you with millions of dollars of random things. You should spend.
35:36
Speaker 2: But Krats, that just reminded me about that situation. That's
35:39
Speaker 2: where you'll see a difference.
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Speaker 3: I've been banging that drum for a long time. If
35:44
Speaker 3: you can, because the value is all in the minor
35:46
Speaker 3: league players. You get production from a minor league player,
35:52
Speaker 3: that's salary. That's the way you keep salaries down. That's
35:55
Speaker 3: why teams who aren't trying call up minor leaguers and
35:58
Speaker 3: don't go and get the vetter all the time because
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Speaker 3: they're keeping salaries down. To me, if that's who you're
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Speaker 3: gonna call up, that's where your value is. Even if
36:07
Speaker 3: you put in five hundred thousand dollars into a nutrition
36:09
Speaker 3: program and you get one player that's helped by that
36:12
Speaker 3: nutrition program and becomes a viable big leaguer, it's paid
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Speaker 3: for itself, and you're gonna get way more than one player.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna get the most out of what you have.
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Speaker 1: By the way. Difference, By the way, the difference between
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Speaker 1: me and Krats. When I was with Ozzie, they that
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Speaker 1: was when all the health kicks started in the big leagues,
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Speaker 1: and Ozzie's like nope. So we'd go into a place
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Speaker 1: and they take all the junk food out. Ozzy'd be like,
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Speaker 1: get that crap back in here. We need ice cream,
36:36
Speaker 1: we need potato chips, we need fat guys because they
36:38
Speaker 1: can't pull fat. Let's go get the fat guys back
36:40
Speaker 1: in here. So there's a huge difference in philosophies.
36:45
Speaker 2: Things have changed, definitely quite a bit. Yes, we went
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Speaker 2: from you guys giving tips to clubbies to go pick
36:53
Speaker 2: up fast food.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Popeyes was big on the list for a lot
36:57
Speaker 1: of guys. Popeyes, Popeyes, Popeyes. Guys love the pop Buies.
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Speaker 1: Not that I didn't, but I'm just saying.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, things have changed. All right, we'll swing back well,
37:06
Speaker 2: do slap pands, yeah, exactly, all that, all the fast food,
37:10
Speaker 2: it's mostly gone from the clubhouses. We can do this here.
37:13
Speaker 2: I mean we mentioned it briefly yesterday. But good for
37:15
Speaker 2: Ryan Yarborough. He signs up with the Blue Jays minor
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Speaker 2: league contract, doesn't make the team. Yankees liked what they
37:23
Speaker 2: saw and crats. They give him two million bucks plus
37:26
Speaker 2: some performance incentives to join the squad. And obviously he's
37:30
Speaker 2: a He's a really unique arm actually, when you think
37:33
Speaker 2: about it, three quarters arms, slot throws junk mid eighties fastball,
37:41
Speaker 2: and you know he's able to figure out a way
37:43
Speaker 2: to get out without swing and miss and provide something unique,
37:47
Speaker 2: and the Yankees do like variety. Also, I want to
37:49
Speaker 2: give credit to the Yankees. They've mostly done a fantastic
37:52
Speaker 2: job of building a bullpen. And yes they quote spent
37:56
Speaker 2: for Devin Williams, but mostly via trade assets. It's not
37:58
Speaker 2: like he's on this massive con tracked. They often are
38:01
Speaker 2: able to find diamonds in the rough. Yarborough is not
38:03
Speaker 2: that he's been part of some good organizations, but I
38:05
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if he has a good year for them.
38:08
Speaker 2: This is not leading the world in great names. But
38:11
Speaker 2: does anyone doubt that they'll have a pretty strong bullpen?
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Speaker 3: No, I mean there's no reason to doubt that they
38:18
Speaker 3: that they won't be a great bullpen because if they're not,
38:21
Speaker 3: they'll figure out other guys that can fit into different spots.
38:25
Speaker 3: And it's not names that you really know. So you
38:29
Speaker 3: have your elite closer, you have the guy who probably
38:31
Speaker 3: would have been the closer in Luke Weaver had they
38:33
Speaker 3: not gone out and gotten Devin Williams. But to me,
38:37
Speaker 3: Yarborough is that guy who gives them depth in the
38:41
Speaker 3: sense of all right, Will Warren, Cookie carrasco the guys
38:46
Speaker 3: who are going to slide in for Heel and Garret Cole,
38:52
Speaker 3: they're not. You can't expect two hundred innings out of
38:54
Speaker 3: those guys. So you need a guy like Yarborough. I'm
38:57
Speaker 3: surprised they haven't gone after Linn yet. But when you
39:01
Speaker 3: get a guy like Yarborough for two million, you can't
39:05
Speaker 3: you don't need to go. I guess get Lance Lynn
39:08
Speaker 3: for five million, who then I guess with the tax
39:11
Speaker 3: would be eleven point five million. You know all that
39:14
Speaker 3: stuff that goes into it. But that's a great pickup.
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Speaker 1: Mm hm, Well, you want funking bullpens, you want funky
39:20
Speaker 1: different things, and Yarborough gives him length. He's funky, he's
39:22
Speaker 1: got a weird he changes his arm angle. He's just
39:25
Speaker 1: different than most guys you see. And the Yankees will
39:27
Speaker 1: figure out a way to use him, like like Kret says,
39:29
Speaker 1: with some of the guys behind him and being her
39:32
Speaker 1: coal and Heel out and you know, we don't know
39:34
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from. So the Otherwans this is
39:36
Speaker 1: a great you know, team Stacker lineups against the righty
39:39
Speaker 1: well guess what they bring in, and then they bring
39:40
Speaker 1: in the side arm lefty right, and then they can
39:42
Speaker 1: go back to the righty. So I love this move
39:44
Speaker 1: for not only Yarbs, but also for the Yankees. It's
39:46
Speaker 1: it's just funk, and it's something different than teams don't
39:49
Speaker 1: see all the time.
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Speaker 2: Yep. And now he's gonna get to go shove it
39:52
Speaker 2: to the Blue Jays and say, hey, you cut me.
39:55
Speaker 2: Take this all right, let's slap. So the White Sox
40:00
Speaker 2: are trying to reverse their historic losing season, so they
40:06
Speaker 2: had a curse breaking ceremony where the infamous Black Sox ball,
40:12
Speaker 2: which was linked to the nineteen nineteen World Series scandalous team.
40:16
Speaker 2: It's being returned to the Tribune Tower where it was
40:19
Speaker 2: first discovered in a twenty twenty two time capsule. Cute
40:25
Speaker 2: little pr thing, but also it almost sounds like a
40:29
Speaker 2: reverse the curse kind of thing, like you had an
40:31
Speaker 2: historically bad season. But I don't know, this is weird.
40:35
Speaker 2: Why don't you just sign some dudes and flip them
40:37
Speaker 2: at the deadline and get your team better?
40:40
Speaker 1: You know, you know what this is? Did you see
40:42
Speaker 1: whose name was behind it? It was Harry Carey's restaurant.
40:45
Speaker 1: You know what, this was a pr stun. How about
40:47
Speaker 1: we go and get some better players. How about we
40:49
Speaker 1: make players. I mean it's a huge gimmick. It's listen,
40:52
Speaker 1: there's people are talking about the White Sox. It's some
40:54
Speaker 1: way to get some media attention because after the last year.
40:57
Speaker 1: But how about we not lose one hundred and twenty
40:58
Speaker 1: one games and what curse? There was no curse. We
41:00
Speaker 1: broke the curse in two thousand and five of the
41:02
Speaker 1: Black Sox. Give me that ball, se that thing on
41:04
Speaker 1: EBAYY make some money.
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Speaker 2: White, Well, it's in a box.
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Speaker 3: You can have the ball.
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Speaker 1: I can't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the ball that they just buried back in the
41:20
Speaker 3: time capsule.
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Speaker 1: Did they really think that's why they lost one hundred
41:24
Speaker 1: and twenty one games last year because the ball got
41:26
Speaker 1: taken out of a time capsule.
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Speaker 3: I'll give you plenty of reasons of why they lost
41:31
Speaker 3: one hundred and it starts with one.
41:36
Speaker 1: Old pd.
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Speaker 4: Y.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the worst season of all time and we
41:43
Speaker 1: didn't even mention this. They have six guys already with
41:45
Speaker 1: TJ the spring in a month they've had exactly exact
41:49
Speaker 1: Maybe they need to take that ball back out, or
41:51
Speaker 1: maybe they put that maybe they need to get an
41:53
Speaker 1: elbow brace. I don't know. That's crazy to me. They
41:55
Speaker 1: had six Tommy Johnes.
41:57
Speaker 2: Some notable names in there include Drew Thorpe and Ki Busch.
42:01
Speaker 2: Thorpe was part of that Dylan Seize trade. It's kind
42:04
Speaker 2: of a unique arm Tukes. It's not a big Bilo guy.
42:10
Speaker 2: Kai Bush, who was a part of that trade with
42:13
Speaker 2: the Angels a few years back.
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Speaker 1: That was gonna be so last year. Two years ago
42:21
Speaker 1: they traded for Bush and kiro the catcher.
42:25
Speaker 2: Two years ago, remember they the Angels kept Otani and
42:28
Speaker 2: said buying in.
42:31
Speaker 1: That Lopez and uh Gilito.
42:36
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, exactly for a minute, and then they cut him.
42:41
Speaker 3: This is by the other teams when they can go
42:43
Speaker 3: get value, when they can go get a player, it's
42:46
Speaker 3: okay to go get the player. You don't know what's
42:48
Speaker 3: going to happen with prospects. This sucks for those six guys.
42:53
Speaker 3: It just is another example go and get the value
42:56
Speaker 3: when you have your chance.
42:58
Speaker 2: Lastly, on the topic of prospects, we talked about this
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Speaker 2: with Logan Ohappy yesterday. But Ian Anderson is traded for
43:05
Speaker 2: Jose Swarez, so a little flip with the Angels and
43:08
Speaker 2: the Braves, and good luck to Anderson. I hope things
43:10
Speaker 2: work out for him there. I do.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully he stays healthy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key. Obviously, he's been out for a while.
43:17
Speaker 2: He's a big part of that World Series winning team.
43:19
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one guest list, I'll give you one
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Speaker 2: name for tomorrow, which is in Cincinnati. Jackson Holiday is
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Speaker 2: joining the show Tomorrow eleven am Eastern time. We go
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Speaker 2: until one. We'll be at Great American Ballpark. We'll talk
43:32
Speaker 2: to Jackson Holiday remotely. We'll try and grab a player
43:35
Speaker 2: inside if any of them wake up early enough to
43:37
Speaker 2: hang out with us and save travels to the ft
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Speaker 2: team petting out to Cincinnati. Talk to everyone tomorrow