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T14E16- Baby Reindeer: sent from my iPhone · Estúpido Nerd

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See that I was talking about my clothes today. Not then, then,
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in my house and I know every bra. But there are clothes that you
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can not time in the dryer, because it is damaged like those that has
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prints and so many ups and I was going to put it in the sun,
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because in a clothesline and it is getting so hot in Barcelona that I
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am barefoot and I had to go clothes. I' m going to get
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clothes to hang it and go back in, because I burned my little feet
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and to put it it was like a little foot up, little foot up
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as I could and they would turn me back. It was pure beer propaganda
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with Bepsy' s, with Sobbio Vergara, just like that and why I
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didn' t get there. But in due time he went to Vergara and
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a coquita with water you were lurking, hahaha. I thought about it or
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it was just a few flip- flops It' s just that it was
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my turn to come up to the room by the anchors. It' s
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better to burn your feet clearly. Yes, for there as a haja,
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already hung up and returned on the clear earth shovel between striving and suffering always,
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suffering always man, as long as you are how about the weather in
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Bogota I see sun. This is the first grace in which we all have
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as sun or, for day by day, yes no, but sun sun
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is not cloudy, but not dark. If it' s bright cloudy,
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then it' s white nuebo, not gray cloud, nous nigras. And
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if you' re raining, it' s even, but that' s
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gross, yes, no serious, yes, nothing, well, it'
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s raining as a way. Perhaps one day the reasoning will end. Oh,
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and they' ve already bathed. No, I do look, my
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hair is wet and I didn' t go out to the mother. Happy
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of the mother, ah thank you, there is happy of the mother Anita.
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It' s true, yes. Grace. If you forget that people
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our age can be mothers. I' m a mother a long time ago,
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a young mother and you' re ours, so always, always true.
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That' s if I stop being true. For more than ten years
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now, my daughter would imagine how she wishes to pray men, she lets
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me that no one has seen. Yeah, that' s right. You
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don' t know there' s three of them. Old to know my
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imaginary daughter' s myth that no one ever washes and you never show her.
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Your daughter, no pant. You saw her, daughter, or you
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tell them or you tell them how they don' t look at the conquest,
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for I was once in a thirty- one and there was a girl,
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but never and never again did I look at her and she was saying
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I wish, hopefully, she was Ana' s daughter. Yeah, I,
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like, okay today is an actress, that little actress, but beyond
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that I don' t know. I got there I was in the park.
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She could be a prude by now, she could be a little girl
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from the park who stayed there and I' ll give her 20 lucas and
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she doesn' t spend thirty- one with her parents. But right now,
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I' m going to spend Mother' s Day with my imaginary daughter.
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Okay, all right, there' s going to be a movie about
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imaginary friends. You can go see her or take the imaginary movie girl.
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I' d imagine you don' t see, butño, imaginary friends,
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I' ve given myself two tickets to the movies in a great way.
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Yeah, yeah, who' s a guy coming with to do that
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ok with my weird friend to go stop hey brother or opium. I'
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m going to start as if I' m in the mood, but I
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don' t know hello and welcome to a stupid podcast about series, movies,
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iPhone and other girly things, other silly things, like love, other
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girly things that when love comes that way, you don' t even notice
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it and then you can' t get it off your back and then it
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' s there, there, there, and there, and then I love
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that song that says it' s not love. It' s what you
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feel. It' s called obsession. Other things from the chapter. It
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' s going to be very uncomfortable, it' s going to be between
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awkward and funny, because they' re like our best chapters. Other silly
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things, like ah it' s because I' m a man. Other
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neon things, such as lying, lying, no, other neon things like
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the Catholic Church, because today we are going to talk about the series based
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on real facts that Netflix recently premiered and that had a boom and is being
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successful by Rea wolves, which is my reindeer from Peluche. So not as
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it is known in Latin America to drink Reno or as it is a man
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in English baby render and Ria. Spain. It' s my Pouch reindeer,
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my Pouch watch. I believe you, Juan, I mean, I
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need a set that look for the invistas to go to Wikipedia on the spot.
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Anyway, it' s so easy. Oh I can share them,
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I can share the screen, because to me it comes in im to see
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the Spanish titles of Spain. You' re ready. Hele my peluche ring.
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Yeah, hup hear. I know you' re an engineer, but
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I didn' t think that' s enough to get you to check out
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arie MDB. Whether it' s good or good. Carica my teddy reindeer
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or my teddy reindeer ok. There it is, I mean. You saw
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the series in Spanishete no, no, no, I didn' t see
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it in English because how much it comes in Spanish and tell you all the
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time my teddy reindeer ok and the joke of the curtains is another one that
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those antennas come to this teddy quiego, how good to react, how ugly
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oh, and as we are always with die, the Baumbi Argüello, how
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happy I am that my mom one has died Bambi, we daddy to mother
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Paumbi Mbi and already you were the one that worked the mental idea places head
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like shit. Well, I was talking about reindeer, but well, yeah,
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at least after mom all the time. Apparently, that' s the
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only thing I know about reindeer, because I know reindeer by Bambi that and
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that fly, because I also know it by Pope, not clear, of
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course, and that reindeer parents are absent parents, as by Bambi ta by
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Bambie. Ah and what and what are fantastic animals. You' ve never
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seen that one once you can because you thought the reindeer existed, you thought
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they were fantastic animals, because obviously, they fly and they' re aft.
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Not he toncea those animals exist. Ah Wau, I like it,
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I like logic and as you could already hear, we have our guest back,
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our dear ana. That Masana Bin very happy, as always accompany me
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in this cute and very animated episode. I' m very, very,
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very happy, very happy to go and share this. Nothing traumatic episode?
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Nothing traumatic episode? The stupid social networks can find them in stupid at the
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point com and if they want to support us by listening, they can enter
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our patron in stupid nar commes dash support us and subscribe to our thiers for
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two dollars. You can find video material or more the highest exclusive shots,
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like this month' s between Logan and as if he were thirty, because
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they both talk about how to move forward in life. We are facing changes
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that we were not willing to or did not know we were going to face.
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Don diego can hang my tropes. The problem is that with you you
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never know if the tropes mash with the mat. Well, the case.
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If you' re saying with Norrea, we go with five troops very straight
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to the point and if we hit them on the wall then with baby Render
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the hanging of the moles, we start with the trope of the stalker ok
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yes, accusers, harassers, stalkers, independent of gender. Then the public
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breakdown troupe returns, already very famous. We saw it in Joker, for
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example. We' ve seen him many times in serious like bow jack,
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all that k and real life cases. So, it' s a pretty
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well- known one. The trope of that isn' t love, that
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' s trauma of how we try to fill the voids of our past traumas
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with what' s good of it there are piles in this series and piles
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of all the things that we usually see so many characters that what we see
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the most we have the trope of abuse will accompany you all your life.
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I don' t want to go into detail with that and we have the
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triumph of the unreliable narrator, which is like this idea of when a story
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is told by its very protagonist, we never know to what extent what it
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is saying is real. It' s not real how real. And in
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this series, it is especially seen because as the chapters go forward the things
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he has told us, they get a completely different nuance, as he reveals
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more things to us and then we see that what he told us earlier was
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not so much. In that schematic. So that is seen a lot in
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works narrated by the protagonist ok Yo, in the juantatazos. I have him
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numbers forty- one thousand seventy- one e- mails, seven hundred forty
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- four tweets in how long, as in two years, I imagine it
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achievable. Yeah. Well, I say challenge, who say challenge. Forty
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- six Facebook messages that do seem more normal to me. Yeah, yeah,
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I mean yeah. One hundred and forty pages of bond, I don
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' t know pages of handwritten letters sent. One hundred and forty pages,
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that is, she and Carlina Sannin, three hundred and fifty cartoon messages are
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caraditas. There is a right and request of not three hundred and fifty voicemails.
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He' s saying that they' re squeezing rae Richard goth who is
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the protagonist, writer and actor of this series, of this seven- episode
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mini series. Babe really started playing as a play, a play that was
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played by Mega Ben, a personal uni show that had this breakdown. But
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not as it was in the series. But a little bit if he had
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this show, not breakdown and not that pathetic. But there is the video
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in which he begins to talk about this and uses a little similar words and
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phrases very similar to those that are going to be seen in the series.
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The series was recorded in two pieces in two parts, a part of Edinburgh
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that up to the two thousand twenty- two and another part in London in
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the two thousand twenty- three. And Marta' s e- mail,
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the e- mail in which she sends these forty- one thousand in the
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series, has the lost numbers to Fugi Wow. The mail is that a
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sequence of meres are the numbers of lost but to the real marta there is
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an old woman who says she is, but at the same time she says
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she is not, because that is hers, but at the same time she
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says she is going to sue Netflix because she is, but she is not.
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I' m not gonna say her name. She didn' t go
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to jail in real life because it' s not her, because it'
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s not her. But he just had Richard Gal had a restraining order and
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now, but for the show they decided to send her to jail or the
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spelt she did and the show has 22 million views on Netflix, which is
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a fucking hit. And curiously, this series, as by Tings, also
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had the same privacy coordinator in this movie in this series, in this mini
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series, because of the scenes so raw that we are going to see,
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and it was very important to keep these scenes or comfortable as far as possible
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for the actors, but at the same time, believable to how horrible it
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was happening. Comfortable for the actors and play fucking uncomfortable for the viewers.
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Yes, and then, having said this, an advice before seeing roibey render
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if you haven' t seen it. It' s a short series.
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That' s good. No. You don' t see her as a
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family, don' t go see her with her parents. No. No,
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all families are imaginary. No. No. You don' t even
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see things. I also think it' s a little awkward to see them
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as a compare, try to see them alone. It' s a short
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series, easy to marathenar, except for the fourth chapter. Then please see
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the first three chapters. They' re normal, they shock us so much,
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but for the room it prepares because what you' re about to see
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or it' s going to bother you too much or it' s going
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to traumatize you or you' re not even going to be able to follow
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it. Well, he' s careful with the fourth chapter. The other
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two are already quieter and the other, if he has fragile masculinity, he
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doesn' t see it. He doesn' t see it. If you
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' re not offending any kind of man- to- man contact, it
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' s better if you cried with Barbie. Yeah, yeah, he'
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s gonna not with the movie, but with the reaction of the people to
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urbar not the so those were the tropes, the quantaszos and the tips to
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watch Baby. Render I say my teddy reindeer and after the next corti come
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all Baby spoilers. Surrender O Sides willing Stake, s Khouse, s Like
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o N o N They on Line, s s N this Lick tanto,
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but with so much. My teddy reindeer is the story of Marta Scotts and
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Donny Donne is a failed comedian who doesn' t beat his anti- comedy.
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No one understands it apart in the series. It' s terrible that
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it' s bad eagerly, but it frustrates him and fills him with a
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lot of desire for someone to value him and see him and recognize him.
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And that' s how it relates at first to Marta, who pays all
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the attention that he wants this more or less a little bit from the one
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taken out of the same series. But Marta' s a professional stocker,
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and she gets obsessed with him and starts making a shit out of him.
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And that life, because not only of pursuing him, but also begins to
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affect, obviously, his social environment, his work environment and his dreams and
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all his life. She begins to fall apart for the person who, as
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she is chasing him, is harassing him and has all kinds of mood swings
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in front of him and the imaginary relationship she thinks she has. On that,
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he has to go to the police. Their relationship with the police is
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also conflicting and conflicting. In the end, they manage to capture Marta,
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because it' s a gonorrhea to put her in jail. And if the
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show were just, that would be light. Yeah, but this is the
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synopsis. Summary, because just as meat comes now, so, in the
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midst of this, we see Richard, Richard nova tony a Donny is exploring
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his side as more bisexual or his sexuality, also from an incident he calls
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that in his real- life monologue. And it is that, then,
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he was sexually abused repeatedly by a producer who was given a groomer who promised
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him fame fortune and everything that he also wanted. In the end, the
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series closes very nice. We will talk about the end later, because the
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creator himself said that the end was open to interpretations and we will see what
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ours are. It' s like a mirror to the scene where he meets
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Marta, he gets to a pretty affected bar, asks for a drink and
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doesn' t have a way to pay for it and the bartender puts it.
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He tells you that all good that this one invites you. You finish,
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I wanted to start by saying that the Gondor, with all the rs
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that can be put to the word Gonorrhea, Marika, I that I finished
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seeing her well, First I got it all down in one day, which
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is a mistake. A mistake is something that no one should do point,
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that is, don' t do it. It' s as if you
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don' t want it. I got it down in two days. If
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I flatter in one day, because yesterday was mother' s day and I
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won' t have time to see it, then I said ready I'
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ll take it down on Friday. All right, no, no, all
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right, all wrong,' cause how hard to watch that son of a
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bitch show, it' s awkward. That' s a hard hit,
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he' s got pretty strong scenes. That' s what Ana says,
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for example, the car. Fourth chapter, or it' s fucking chapter
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life. He even has a card that says this chapter is the go lorrhoea
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that you take care of when you see it. And so Cadana says the
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first three, but they' re more, they' re not like normi
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the fourth kick. I feel like the first three of us can look like
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something else sleepy is about the fourth. Yeah,' cause the three primers
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are just as uncomfortable and very difficult. The three close each as uy,
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but the but not exact, is already but accurate. The fourth puts things
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on another level and it is not in vain that Igual is very well managed,
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very well done the series and even the fourth chapter, despite being the
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strongest, is the one that has the most score imdbs, the one that
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people have liked the most, because It is the same that it is a
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capitulation. It' s horrible and I feel that that applies to the series
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in general. The series is hard to see, it' s uncomfortable,
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it' s painful, but it' s very good. It' s
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very well done, i e, Hihueputa Dog did it very well, because
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all the series is mega uncomfortable, i e, there' s a moment
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of rest, i e. I think the only time is cheese is when
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things start to go well, things start to go well. And now thirty
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and yet so lonely, but it does deliver thirty- five seconds because of
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remains are uncomfortable plans. All the time we' re watching him feel bad,
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feel not only about Marta, but also about her frustrated dreams, because
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her life sucks, because of her relationships, for everything. He' s
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having a bad time for seven chapters. It' s bad for this hand
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all his life. It' s bad for him, except for a few
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seconds where he' s doing well to go crazy again. And besides that
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and it is particularly uncomfortable the fact that the moments when things start to measure
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her well are also very linked to her situation with Marta so much that many
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times he and he thank her, as they feel grateful to her for certain
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things. But it' s horrible. Let' s just say the comedy
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was remal and it started to go well with her intervention. She' s
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not able to have sex with her partner, but by imagining Marta she started
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to power. It' s just very osul. It wasn' t even
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to imagine Marta, it was to go and hang up the drapes such that
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he recovered. Libo was why because he left. He remembers. It'
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s not a dream that no, no, no, that' s not
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a dream that happened. That' s a dream, that doesn' t
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happen, it happens, of course, no, that doesn' t happen.
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Oh, that' s not what' s wrong with you. It
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' s a dream of him, it wasn' t. Yeah, that
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' s the end of the third chapter, but is it a dream of
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him? Don' t shut up. Yes, of course, it'
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s a dream of him. Yes, it' s the fantasy he has
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and why he can sleep with his partner, which is a gonorrhea. Yes,
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he' s not with Marta, but the conversation is with Marta.
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They would be others, even when he records it he telling him like he
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tries that spraming, like she' s over the mail to tell him this.
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I mean, he tells her like she hangs the curtains today. It
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' s because that hadn' t happened. He can' t believe you.
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I mean, for me, yeah, yeah, if they went to
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bed, what happens is that the scene, they show it, they don
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' t show it, I mean, there' s not like they frame
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it, just like they look at it. This is a dream. But
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they do imply how this is man' s fantasy and it' s that
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man' s fantasy i e it' s basically how this is what the
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most one is imagining when he' s sleeping with the couple and when he
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' s masturbating, which is just like me not in shock. Now beyond
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that, there was also something that I or is watching the show. There
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was something or a lot I wanted to talk about. And the first one
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is like that guilt that he has for being little man. And that guilt
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and that feeling around him as a victim. But being a man is less
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victim in some way, like, for example, if he, when he
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tells the police, if I was a girl and the forty- year-
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old man was sending him those emails, this situation would be different, and
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if it' s true, and also the fact that if she were,
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if he was a girl, they wouldn' t have kicked him out of
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the house because they have a stalker. Yes, he turns his back on
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him because basically and that' s what he talks about is like where masculinity
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is and what the fact of masculinity is. Oh Juan, there' s
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an illegal issue and it' s a very popular case on Twitter Colombia of
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a girl being harassed by a person. We' re not going to tell
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Rob that she' s never been able to and being a woman and the
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guy checks for harassment, she hasn' t been able to access justice or
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put some kind of security in her, because that kind of crime isn'
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t really defined in the law. Sending messages obsessively to someone. It'
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s not a crime, it' s not a thing and it' s
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actually okay, but the point, the point be woman and there it'
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s gone to the game, she, she' s gone to the police.
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He told you to look at this guy. He sends me hundreds of
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emails, opens Twitter accounts everywhere, and nobody takes care of me because it
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' s not true. But here are two things. It' s not
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typified. In Colombia the series of this happens here and two. The point
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is not that it' s typified. No, the point is like the
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sympathy that we have and that society has towards him, i e, ready
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for the police go but get kicked out of the house. He' s
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right about that. So that' s the point that I have to be
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bothered by friends when they are, when they are, squeezing until they don
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' t blow a thing in his face anymore. Nothing, he does nothing,
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yeah, nobody cares. And that because there' s also this feeling
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in the environment that why he doesn' t defend himself the same and I
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do feel that the subject of masculinity is obviously super strong how they handle it,
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but I feel that it looks more than everything is in the perception that
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he has of himself than in these external cases. I mean, yeah,
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it' s clearly that he was thrown into the house and all this,
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but there' s a lot of him, too. All masculinity and sexuality
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man are a mystery to him. He himself says he doesn' t know
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how to identify himself. The fact that his soulful voice has been a man
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makes him think and feel guilty that if he is perhaps bisexual, that is
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why he has to be one of the most horrible things. How much this
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situation defined me, how much it changed me and how much of what I
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could be happy about right now. It' s defined by a traumatic experience.
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So, really, if I' m ever gonna be able to get
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back to something that makes me happy, knowing that no matter what it is,
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I' m going to be remembering that traumatic experience because in my head
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they' re intimately linked and add a stocker because besides, this is him
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without what' s happening in the series. This is the donic in which
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we start, that we never know that this is that gift, but it
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is the fourth chapter. But that' s the donic we start from.
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Yeah, that' s the ap being of him exactly. And then all
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this shitty son of a bitch comes along when Marta takes him out on the
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street, masturbates him, and the man is obviously being abused, and above
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all, he' s feeling guilty, that is, he' s blaming
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himself all the time, everything that' s going on without denying that the
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Man obviously did things, that that' s the sheath of the series,
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that' s like obviously, he' s the protagonist, obviously, he
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' s the trajectory we' re watching while we watch the show. But
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Man does piylan things in the early chapters, especially before we meet him.
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There really are pods that you say que hijue de Puta is being made.
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Marica when she starts to wind up Marta knowing that not bad gives Marta a
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lot of rope when she goes to find her, when she' s going
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to know where she lives, when Marta gets it. That' s the
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most interesting thing for me in the series ever that Dieguito says a creative writer
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' s course to is that I told him that what I was most interested
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in writing plain. I can never do that one. Those grays of people,
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that is, really have the structure of an antagonist, of a protagonist
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who is par excellence good and the protagonist the antagonist ontologically bad, because that
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already many does not apply. These characters are no way to sympathize with nin
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at any time or to be completely apathetic to anyone, because they are a
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grey marta poor donni where I agree. No, I don' t agree.
29:26
Not if I kind of like, for example, to sympathize or is
29:30
it like you can' t fully sympathize with any of them, that is,
29:33
I feel like he' s following her? Should he follow her?
29:34
That he follows her because he' s curious about this old whore is absolutely
29:37
nothing comparable to what you want, that he' s either going to take
29:41
us or not and he' s not going to take me away from me
29:45
that I have sympathy and empathy with him and that he likes me and that
29:48
' s not like that. But I feel he' s not like he
29:49
' s not a character in the series, he' s not like a
29:53
gray character, yes, his most human character. But here, clearly,
29:56
it seems to me that there' s a character who' s all marta
30:00
people are gray or whether it' s marta or someone' s a gonorrhea
30:03
and it' s a crime and he' s not going to tell you
30:10
that not equal a sick character c i mean, he' s talking clinically,
30:15
which doesn' t justify what he' s doing. No, but
30:17
it gives a nuance gives a context to what it does. She' s
30:22
not a villain because she' s a villain, she' s not a
30:26
bad girl because she' s a bad girl, she' s not a
30:26
Marvel villain. She does not, but how far, how far we extend
30:32
this to a stalker is that that' s the Juanda problem, because that
30:36
' s exactly what the series does and it' s a gonorrhea. That
30:41
' s why I say I can' t have sympathy in her either.
30:44
I don' t understand that I can' t understand that I can'
30:47
t have sympathy, but I' m telling you because we opened that quiet
30:49
door. You want me to start over Sherry. You want me to start
30:55
with the Oversiry, because I always come here to say more things than I
30:59
have been given, I have been placed with restraining orders, because I am
31:07
a very normal Persian, very corda. But the moment and the thing that
31:14
they call anxious attachment, at the time of ending relationships. It' s
31:18
super dense for me, super hard. I mean, I can' t
31:22
handle it and I' m one of the people who has to go and
31:26
try to solve, either with the other person or the situation, to the
31:29
point where they put me on a restraining order and I' m not justifying
31:33
Marta pIRCh crazy pinche or it' s me a month and a half I
31:37
didn' t understand the weeks as I can' t go on like this
31:38
anymore. I have to get help. Martica, this crazy thing, but
31:42
that feeling of not being able to control things and that people have it because
31:48
I have access to health, because I am a studied person I have understood
31:53
many things, but you are a person with some traumas that mine also comes
31:59
from certain drinks, of certain, certain things that are working every day.
32:04
She poor thing, she didn' t even have a support network. I
32:06
don' t come to defend Marta, but this one weighs I don'
32:10
t have to defend Marta. But yes, but that' s what I
32:13
mean. But it' s just that by playing you' re leaving.
32:15
The one that' s going to the extremes, the one that we'
32:19
re going in here is you. I don' t know about anyone,
32:22
nobody' s defending, nobody' s defending, but we' re having
32:27
empathy for her. Then let' s have empathy for this person, for
32:30
the stalker of this Twitter person, Faggot. Yeah, we' re gonna
32:32
have empathy for him. Yes, when Wanda Apo when to have empathy is
32:37
something some people deserve and others don' t. Empathy It' s not
32:42
to forgive everyone empathy, it' s not to say I understand you go
32:45
and go on with your life as you' re managing empathy is I'
32:51
m going to try to understand why you do what you do and you'
32:52
re exactly the way you are. That leads me to feel just like what
32:57
you' re doing is bullshit. It doesn' t mean we can try
33:00
to understand the other person. That is empathy to try to understand, yes,
33:05
but to try to understand is not to say poor Marta, as if
33:07
it has been said here to but it is queer to. That' s
33:09
different. But he' s here. That' s not empathy. Then
33:13
because saying poor Marta is different. It' s not. I don'
33:16
t understand, of course, I' ll tell you to understand, understand,
33:22
and poor It' s different. Juan Dapo Mira. I see it.
33:23
I see it on this side. I see him on this side to
33:25
see the understanding that Marta had a context that led her to be like this.
33:35
It doesn' t eliminate the fact that what she sometimes does is a
33:38
crime that ruins people' s lives that is a danger to society and that
33:44
they have to lock her up or do something with her. Whatever. Okay,
33:51
we need clear. One hundred percent agree. If you remember. I
33:52
can' t think that. One hundred percent and at the same time thinking
33:58
that Gonorrhea has had a very hard life, have not supported it. She
34:01
' s crazy and she hasn' t had the support she needs, and
34:06
I understand how she got to be the person she is now. I don
34:07
' t think he' s okay with the person he is now. I
34:09
don' t support the person you are now, but I understand how I
34:13
' m going to be the person you are now. That' s the
34:15
empathy I feel for Marta. That' s the empathy that the series makes
34:17
me feel for Marta and also, because man works hard on this. It
34:22
is the empathy that the same protagonist ends up feeling by bar that ends up
34:28
shitting when he becomes obsessed in the end, but it is because the man
34:34
tries first of all to understand on a ridiculous obsessive level that he carries it,
34:37
because of course, the man is 100% involved and needs to understand,
34:40
because, moreover, the relationship that they two end up understanding is a
34:42
sheath. And if she got to understand Marta, I' m going to
34:45
get to understand me okay yeah, that, yeah, that' s what
34:47
Gonorrhea is, but I, as an outsider, can say I can try
34:52
to understand this without agreeing with this. Fair, but it' s all
34:55
there, too. This writing also started because we were powering Marta. I
34:59
understood, that is, that we are already seeing Marta already and Don and
35:01
in the same month, that both will be grey. And here' s
35:06
the point. It' s just that the thing is this Juan A,
35:07
you' re an artist, you' re an artist, yes or no.
35:09
Uh- huh Ready. Black and white are two super- defined spectra
35:14
that are here and here what' s in all half. What' s
35:19
it called if gray smart, how many shades of gray there are, no,
35:23
no, but yes, yes. Don' t touch that tecrisis,
35:25
faggot, you' re gonna get me that technicality. It' s not
35:28
that you do, it' s because it goes, because when we talk
35:31
about grays, there are dark greys. Yes, of course, Marica marks
35:36
yes, gentlemen, what is that, what is it That is exactly that
35:42
is the letter from then on, for then it is a letter that we
35:45
can get for everyone, for not for everything, because person is that they
35:49
are not for writing, they are not gray, but for the rest of
35:52
things and the rest of the world, yes, Marica because, that is,
35:54
yes, is that there is gray, is that this is darker grey,
35:59
because Marica is where it is, for it is that yes? Because,
36:00
I mean, I personally think seeing things black and white is a flaw
36:04
of people, but it' s not black and white. But, I
36:07
mean, it' s not that I want to see them black and white,
36:10
because that' s why I say this house is I like it.
36:12
I don' t want to see them black and white. But when we
36:14
say they' re gray, they offend not what I said when they'
36:17
re gray. Because I felt and that' s why I say that the
36:21
letter, that letter, looks like a gonorrhea to me, because when I
36:24
say that they are gray, it is understood that they are the same kind
36:27
of gray. You don' t understand. You understand no. No yes,
36:30
how much did he say if I told him Donny and Marta are both
36:34
gray. I' m putting them in the same bag of the same gray,
36:37
I disagree. If I don' t agree with the way you say
36:40
it, yes, now you don' t tell me. They' re
36:43
two gray characters in which one, because it' s not. It'
36:45
s just that we didn' t get to that, because that' s
36:50
where you got excited, that is, at no point did we get to
36:52
say. Because this and this because there you said no how shit you blur,
36:55
you lie down on the table, Pa more passes is glass. You
37:01
' re not gonna harass me. Preprop like marta cake. You put on
37:10
the woman, I put on the fat and we make a ready marten.
37:16
That comment was terrible, for yes, because we all have a context that
37:22
leads us to be bad people. But if I don' t mean already
37:29
creating, I obviously don' t see them to tie up in it to
37:32
Güey and closely or closely, but what I' m saying is the series.
37:36
She shows us a Marta who does horrible things, but she also shows
37:39
us and why she does it and does not show her as a victim of
37:44
the society in which she lives. Yeah, that' s ready now.
37:46
That' s what I say about Marta. I do, I have many
37:50
things also found already and I also have years that against Dani Juan does not
37:54
walk, but I am not there toy defending Marta. I' m not
37:59
defending Marta. A crime. It' s a crazy prick, it'
38:02
s wrong, but there are reasons why it does, because it also has
38:07
no support network for the scene in which it lasts for weeks, sitting at
38:10
the location in front of the house, which begins to deteriorate, which no
38:15
longer knows what else to do. It is too strong so much that he
38:19
himself, Dani and moves, and that also puts him in his moment of
38:27
shitting her and going to try to be empathetic with her and enlarge her problem.
38:30
But it' s not the first time he' s done it.
38:32
It' s not the first time he' s done it. He already
38:35
knew he was a crazy prick. I knew it. I already knew it,
38:37
I mean, it wasn' t as yet. I' m not
38:39
sure about this. I knew and the man accepted her as a friend on
38:44
Facebook. I already knew the level she was at, I already knew what
38:47
she was getting into and he accepted a request on Facebook. Marica accepts a
38:52
Facebook situation, a person like that is to tell her at least. The
38:55
page says they' re friends now. At the very least, that'
39:00
s sending a signal in the old one. Without a doubt, the man
39:02
already knew that he had to cut that bow and didn' t cut it
39:07
because the man wanted exact attention. He gave priority to the attention he wanted
39:13
above his safety and to wind up this crazy woman and haha finish the idea.
39:19
Ah, no, what I' m going to is that the man
39:21
is being complicit in the situation. There' s his standard ma, man
39:24
' s crazy, man' s the man who' s complicit, because
39:30
he did an action that helped this grow when he already knew the situation he
39:37
was in. I mean, it' s part of it. It'
39:39
s his fault that he' s running out of hot air. But so
39:45
yes. I don' t know, I know where he' s going,
39:49
because I know where Juan Dapo is going. But, because that'
39:50
s what I' m saying to you that we recting fag often say many
39:57
times the people who suffer either because of that guilt of them, for whatever
40:00
reason, do things that aggravate their situation and it' s their fault.
40:05
No. No. No. No. No, no, well, Juan,
40:07
there you are, you want me to say it, so then you
40:09
don' t know. He wants to make a clip in which drapment says
40:15
what he wants me to want him to want and tell me, I say
40:17
it all right, I say it. Not my point is not a matter
40:20
of what I' m saying here. Or because it' s not what
40:22
I' m trying to say, unless I want to see it that way,
40:25
the thing is that it' s gone by to be in all its
40:29
freedoms as I harassed it, that thing because I want to. No,
40:30
I' m not saying I stalked him. He' s bullied because he
40:31
wants to. But if I' m saying that Dani put over his safety
40:40
wanting attention from a woman he knew wasn' t right in the head.
40:45
Ok, he even sacrificed his relationship, he even sacrificed his relationship for receiving
40:52
that attention that, among others, now that I think about it we have
40:57
not talked almost but queer that to be so patient to the point of worrying
41:04
about the Bride, Dani, Doni terío you do not yes, Teri no,
41:12
what it would be for the new Bride, the new Bride yes faggot,
41:19
How many letters not morgueta, how many forgave him. And she too,
41:24
obviously, ended up in that hole, because first of all she wanted
41:29
to understand Doni and wanted to understand Marta too and by being there, see
41:35
where she took them exactly. That' s why me. That' s
41:37
why it' s easy for me for life, a life lesson. I
41:40
said ah no that. The worst thing is if it' s a life
41:44
lesson, if it' s a life lesson, it' s super empathetic.
41:45
Since that doesn' t happen, you put him in danger. If
41:47
you put him in danger, first he' ll be safe and then he
41:52
' ll exercise empathy. But when I make it clear to you, it
41:55
' s good for me. I am empathetic to everyone or rea how,
42:00
how is it possible that, after what happens to him in the fourth chapter
42:05
tells him about such drama, he returns and looks for the gromer and I
42:12
go again and well he writes me a script i e the mat also has
42:17
güeya Marica that scene. He broke me, broke me completely. When you
42:22
keep coming back and you just talk and the more you just tell it clear
42:30
again let' s work and then you give it panic attack no yes.
42:31
It' s also like or what he says, because he wasn' t
42:35
going to have the attack there. I mean, I don' t think
42:37
that' s there either. I liked that hacienda because it was like that,
42:38
it' s worth anything, so Chingón, of course, I'
42:40
m not leaving here. He broke me out He broke me out. It
42:43
was for him that he gave me to understand there. It' s like
42:50
I feel like this way, like Dani Donny, he sees himself that right
42:52
now I' m so broken and so I don' t find that my
42:59
safe place was the abuse I lived through and I didn' t see it
43:00
that way. That' s when he' s going to look for it,
43:05
yeah, then, obviously, what happens that Bonorrhoea and it comes out.
43:08
But that was his impulse, because the man at that moment was completely
43:13
attached and the place he went to, that is, his anchor, is
43:20
his abuser I didn' t see it that way. His abuser is the
43:24
only place he remembers how right now I knew I wanted with my life and
43:30
there was something I wanted with my life and there was something that drove me
43:34
and there was something that grabbed me. So, my only safe place is
43:37
with my abuser. But I know how I saw him how, I mean,
43:43
I did see how the man did go looking for him, because this
43:45
was like the moment when I knew and I still had dreams and illusions and
43:49
hopes. But instead of feeling that he had sought it because it was that
43:52
safe place, I felt that it had been like his attempt to recover that
43:59
for himself not to seek comfort in him. But I mean, the situation,
44:02
because the other evil is a manipulator, he ate it and so,
44:06
at the end of the scene, he' s having this attack. But
44:07
it was like going to face him bravely to get him back. He had
44:13
already passed many of Marta' s things, he was already feeling better,
44:15
he had the new coat like he was already recovering everything, and he had
44:17
to recover that piece and I feel like he went to claim it. But
44:24
the other man thus manipulative with all power, yet, I do not allow
44:30
it and, to be more, comes out again in that thing. But
44:34
I don' t feel like he' s been looking for alman as a
44:36
place. Yeah, I feel like one thing doesn' t take the other
44:37
either. I mean, yeah, I' m gonna go get this back,
44:44
but I have to get it back because that' s the place where
44:46
I, I mean, with everything and everything, that' s the place
44:50
where I was not the part of that if I' m the part of
44:53
what I was trying to do with all this, yeah, yeah, I
44:55
mean, the same. But I' m saying, but I' m
44:59
kind of the safe place, being like no, because I' m gonna
45:00
pick up my fucking kids, from my ex' s house like that,
45:05
I' m gonna watch it and I' m gonna get my clothes and
45:08
hey, bitch pack it up for me and then it doesn' t come
45:09
in like hello. Well, yeah, well, I' ll come back
45:14
and get the shit out of that scene. I thought it was very egg,
45:19
because most of the time I' m hanging around like please, please,
45:23
something happens, something happens in the sense of Marica comes out a suit.
45:29
I mean, yeah, you know the point was gonna happen. You
45:32
did something very bad to me. Not deep down, I knew it wasn
45:36
' t going to happen, because I' ve had seven chapters of meeting
45:38
Dony and that' s not Donny. Donny is more broken than that and
45:42
it hurts, but it does, but I wanted him so much ah my
45:52
series is a very dense gonorra, very well, very dense huey. I
46:00
have no reference to myself. I liked it a lot because not because of
46:07
what I' m trying to do. I don' t find similar references
46:10
to a story told like this by a man, that that' s what
46:15
I find most valuable, that is, that a man has the courage to
46:20
tell everything and also assume in what failure. I' ve never seen him
46:24
before. That' s why it marked me so much of the show.
46:30
I don' t know if you' ve seen similar stories. For me
46:32
it' s the first time a man' s ever counted an abuse in
46:37
such detail. Yeah, at least on or at this mainstream level, I
46:45
don' t think so. No, I don' t know maybe independent
46:51
stories. I imagine there' ll be one or two movies in very much
46:57
what you can say, maybe it is accurate as it is, but just
47:07
as I' m a mainstream comedian, I' m gonna get this story
47:08
out. That is, because, in addition to a time here instead of
47:13
the one that is coming out, one of the places where the stories that
47:20
are born from a vulnerable place are being born the most is comedy, not
47:24
in the sense that the stories are comedies, but that it is those who
47:28
have dedicated themselves to comedy who are breaking that pattern. Piens Hana Gatsby,
47:31
who did. I think about after that there are a lot of comedy shows
47:37
where people say how and because my wife died last year and starts telling that
47:43
story. I think a duck nosuwall I think about what it' s called
47:52
in worthy Taro, who did a famous comedy show, because he became famous
47:57
because he did it hours after he found out he had every breast being.
48:00
Then he went on stage to improvise a comedy show. But speaking of her
48:07
and her situation, of her having breast cancer and of how her father died,
48:09
as her father, her human, I believe which of the two and
48:12
is of these people they used, they use comedy as their means of communication
48:22
from which many of these stories of vulnerability are now coming out of a story
48:29
like this, as well as breaking both this stigma of masculinity, of masculinity,
48:36
of what masculinity should be and exposing traumas at that level. Not me,
48:44
it doesn' t come to mind, it doesn' t sell to
48:45
the head. I' m not either, I mean, not only am
48:51
I not breaking them, but that' s how I question them, but
48:55
also how it is. There are both things, the stabbing towards him as
49:00
a man and the abuse as well, but not only because in the end,
49:08
also of the things that seemed most cruel to me around the series was
49:17
like the abuse and everything physical was very pilight, very horrible. But it
49:22
' s also this part of how they took their soul, how their dreams
49:24
took away the desire to live them or how it took away everything that was
49:30
happening to them. Marta and the other man aside from the ugly physical things
49:36
we could be seeing, the mental things, the things of her dreams,
49:40
the things of not being able to fuck her girlfriend and be judged as a
49:46
man. So, like his own masculinity was at stake, regardless of his
49:53
sexuality, his own masculinity was at stake as long as he had to be
50:01
a man, but he no longer felt like a man and it was like
50:06
then. The question is what whores it is to be a man. But
50:09
as long as it gets there, until that point is reached, it'
50:14
s like man equals society expects something from me, even if they get to
50:16
that point it' s the same, they' re going to judge me
50:21
that way and I' m already on the other side the same. It
50:21
' s not cool to feel judged then like that thing, tearing poor Donny
50:28
apart and seeing him if he doesn' t start right, because the boy
50:35
before, even if we know about the abuse, is not that this is
50:37
that we say how ah was a man that in all the desire to live,
50:40
not or the man was seen can always be taken away. Yes,
50:43
and they can always be taken away more. How they got him back.
50:46
Yeah, nothing, yeah, nothing. That was horrible to see, but
50:52
as super interesting and as pieces of my own nothing has happened to me without
50:59
looking at this. But yeah, little things from hey, I' ve
51:01
felt judged by x hears this way and I don' t have anything to
51:06
talk to, because what seemed cruel to me was also that little gift.
51:09
I didn' t have such a strong support network either, in part also
51:15
because at least what I felt on the sidewalk was because I was surrounded by
51:17
other men and creating those nets for the manes is well son of a bitch
51:22
the wheel of other men and the bride with which obviously he didn' t
51:27
feel able to be talking about previous when the man happened then when the old
51:30
one happened, because let' s say the fact that he didn' t
51:35
feel he could talk to anyone about Marta. It' s come a lot
51:42
that I couldn' t have talked to anyone about the producer. I mean,
51:46
it' s like trauma that feeds itself. And this whole question of
51:52
and as a man lives it alone as well because we are men. No
51:58
net pussy anyone else And and I was telling him wrong, obviously, he
52:06
walks before trust, he doesn' t have to pretend and no And all
52:12
this and everything is of the masculinity that comes down to him. It'
52:15
s also very much expressed in how he sees his sexuality, because this whole
52:21
question of getting into the trans dating page But with a pseudonym, but it
52:25
' s not that far, but yes, but with a pseudonym so they
52:30
don' t know what he is? But also as for him not to
52:32
be him? Yeah, because that' s the line he initially puts out.
52:37
It' s, of course, you' re, you' re
52:43
the woman of my dreams, because besides, he says it when you know
52:46
her like a bunch of dates that weren' t for shit. But I
52:51
met this old woman and she' s the woman of my dreams. But
52:57
then, you' re going to meet that one with an instructor with the
53:00
hands of comedian faggot. Besides, what a whore could have put any other
53:05
work on tell Sanna County accountant Agale Ntas. But of course and this is
53:15
that he doesn' t know how to express you or it' s like
53:19
it' s not this question, like I' m not saying if I
53:23
' m bisexual, gay, or whatever because I feel like I am,
53:30
like I don' t want to be boxed, but it' s like
53:35
a because I don' t know if what I am is because of me
53:39
or my trauma, because of something that' s born of me or something
53:44
that' s caused me, that' s something that expresses it. He
53:45
' s got to be such a son of a bitch to live like this.
53:51
I' m getting this egg. I don' t know my bad
53:54
ray and I don' t know where I' m standing in this life
53:57
anymore. I don' t know anything anymore. It' s closing.
54:02
He broke this shit for me. He scratched me too much, too.
54:07
There' s something good about the I don' t remember if it'
54:12
s the fifth or the sixth chapter that' s at the time when it
54:16
starts with the stand up falli from the final of the failed stand up than
54:22
the soundtrack. It' s the most perfect thing I' ve seen in
54:29
musicalization in a long time in audiovisual, when the begis song sounds. That
54:32
' s where being in the jek is perfect. The joke. I am
54:37
myself and that is one of the things that has made me question myself a
54:40
lot because I feel a lot of anger and towards the stand or eat I
54:45
have not been able to find the taste, as Diego said right now,
54:50
because I feel that many times the joke is so much about yourself I am
54:53
offended when people tell me you are very funny and you should make stand up.
54:59
It' s terrible. It' s terrible because the joke becomes so
55:01
self- inflicted that there are two options. You should be telling this to
55:05
a psychologist or the prosecution. You should be telling and making jokes about this
55:10
thing in your life and that thing you' re telling him about. It
55:14
' s got to go to this. Tell the police. This is what
55:16
you should be telling the police, and it' s what Diego said right
55:21
now. So, after I have breast cancer. I' m going out
55:24
to laugh at the trauma. It' s terrible for me. I laugh
55:27
at the trauma a lot. I mean, I just shared what that husband
55:30
did. He gave me a cautation. There are details there, yes,
55:35
there is crisis in that story. There are greys you know, then we
55:37
do another podcast counting those grays, because we share, we share what she
55:43
does. But not to be like that. You know, I' m
55:45
not a crazy prick like I hang on, no, but it' s
55:52
the standard. It' s painful, the Estadam isn' t funny.
55:58
I don' t know how valid it is for you to be yourself that
56:04
way to expose yourself so cruelly and vilely, because I think it' s
56:08
both. Yeah, it' s painful, but it' s funny,
56:13
because they' re people. Funny to me, what but of that kind
56:15
of standard what I like the most is when the same show makes you think
56:20
like me shouldn' t be laughing at this, but Esteban did it so
56:24
well that it makes me laugh, but I know I was. But and
56:29
it' s called club again Well, the same man is telling me he
56:32
or she and it' s already his responsibility for his comedy show makes it
56:37
po. I' m going to laugh if nas already spoke to Gonzalo goes
56:42
to the Derrama, the hemonobio, the Colombian comedian who sends standaup and oral
56:49
expression classes and all this and the man told me, because how or telling
56:55
me the introduction of how to the course of all that, and it'
57:00
s like the comedian' s job is to find the fly in the soup,
57:07
show it to people and that people laugh at it is to show people
57:09
what' s wrong in a way they laugh at them. But the comedian
57:15
order is that, it' s like you guys are all normalizing to show
57:24
it. That' s why the food that I like and the one that
57:28
I feel is worth it is, for example, the comedy that hits up,
57:30
not down, the shit that fucks up those who are up, not
57:35
those who are down. But that' s the real beginning of comedy.
57:39
To follow the swing is to go down is that they are there, not
57:45
exactly, if not to erase you from your trauma, exactly, but it
57:47
is that the thing now is this in today' s society, which is
57:52
up there is the one with an audience, because we are in a performing
57:54
society. We are a society that seeks to perform our lives in front of
57:59
others. Those are social media. So now who' s upstairs? It
58:04
' s the people on that screen showing up or on that stage showing up.
58:08
That' s why comedy has become so personal. It' s something
58:15
Bob Bournham did all the time. Bub Burham, what he does, for
58:17
example, his Make Happy show is the man saying I' m broken,
58:22
but you' re here looking at me and laughing at what I say.
58:25
I can tell you that in a song. I can say anything since I
58:29
make it funny and rhyme. And you' re going to be here because
58:35
we live in a society and it says so first. We saw in a
58:37
society that he wants to show his life and others to see it. And
58:43
that' s why I go to the entertainers, so I go to the
58:47
people who have a platform and that' s why now they' re the
58:52
great beings That' s why now the issues of social relations have become.
58:54
What they have become is that it is in comedians now the way to break
59:01
with that status quo is to look for a real vulnerability in whom it presents
59:08
itself. Because right now, those who present themselves, what they do is
59:12
have a constant performance and what breaks performance is vulnerability. That' s where
59:20
they' re breaking that cube status. That' s why that' s
59:22
what' s hitting so much in comedy right now. Or that' s
59:24
what I think. I think that' s where it comes from, and
59:30
it crashes, obviously, and I understand that a lot of people don'
59:31
t like it. I love him clearly, but I understand why he even
59:36
hits you to get back to himself. Hannah Gatsby says it in Naneta and
59:39
says it very clearly. I' m sucking at making them laugh at my
59:46
fucking trauma is my trauma. You guys have been laughing at this shit I
59:51
' ve been carrying for years Eat shit. I' m mom that people
59:57
always tell me about you, you' re a super joke. No,
1:00:00
I' m not funny. I' m traumatized. Oh, you'
1:00:05
re so funny. You' ve got super good notes. No, I
1:00:07
don' t love myself, no, it' s not a joke.
1:00:08
I' m here doing the most sincere and honest thing I can, but
1:00:13
I' ve never had the one that costs me so much, I don
1:00:17
' t have executive skills. Then make the creation. It' s so
1:00:23
hard to do, I mean, to have the guts to stop and tell
1:00:28
people the trauma, and not in a casual conversation like a wolf with you.
1:00:32
Who knows so much has spoken and so much I have reneged that the
1:00:37
next thing I' m going to be doing standur eats somewhere in the forty
1:00:42
and somewhere in the forty- five. Don' t you? Don'
1:00:45
t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don'
1:00:45
t you? No, as a good standard, but Colombian does me a
1:00:50
favor and starts as I count. Yeah, how many count? Tell me,
1:00:54
tell me what you' re telling? Do they count? Yeah,
1:00:55
yeah, yeah, so you can, no, you can skip the rules
1:01:00
in the steps, but well and then end up making bad movies, obviously,
1:01:06
like the happy Saturday actors. But so aredam in Colombian quiet you don
1:01:08
' t have to go to any of those places. Juan Appo is obviously
1:01:12
showing that we are very old people by saying that you have to start there,
1:01:15
you have to pass in Tiktok. I don' t know there anymore.
1:01:20
Now they did challenge him. I was challenged to record myself in a
1:01:23
Tiktok mesent telling a story that happened to me with a guy who dated in
1:01:29
Tiktok, who left please, I met him in Boppol. Then you tell
1:01:30
me you have to count. Oh, I do, c excuse me.
1:01:34
I met him in Favoul, so what I have to go up is Tikto.
1:01:37
Let' s see if it happens I convicted him in Tiktok and I
1:01:39
have to count that on my bonus cousin and he never sees her go out
1:01:45
with a toker tik. Let' s talk there to close the UFF final
1:01:51
because to me and I' m going to tell you, that is,
1:01:53
the creator said that in the end what I told you was open for people
1:01:58
to interpret as they wanted. I' m going to start because I always
1:02:02
say dick and me, my, Mi, Mi, Mi, It'
1:02:05
s true, that' s one of my traumas. No better, yes,
1:02:06
my will be your fault. The poor, the fat and the bullied
1:02:16
are because they want to. The preto is that he gets to the bar
1:02:25
and he gets to the bar he doesn' t have what to pay for
1:02:30
and gives him mobility and suddenly, between that and what he' s hearing
1:02:34
comes as the click. For me and by far what was told he believed
1:02:37
that the guilt of being stoked and all that was happening was to have been
1:02:42
kind to her, to have approached a sad person, to a person who
1:02:46
was affected and to have offered her free tea, even if she could not
1:02:52
afford it, because there was empathy with someone, because someone felt val and
1:02:57
it' s like good faggot tea will not ruin my life, not ruin
1:03:00
my business. I pay in my pocket. Whatever it is, no one
1:03:05
' s gonna notice the same way in the bar that he gave a fucking
1:03:09
tea all right and he believed a lot of time and said it a little
1:03:14
bit in the show that it was his fault for offering him a tea.
1:03:15
When they blow him up, he tells him how it happened and he offers
1:03:19
him a tea and when I see him I feel when I see that the
1:03:24
man in the bar offers him a drink that he asked for free bodca cola,
1:03:30
like I feel that he could forgive himself there, like Marica, it
1:03:32
' s not my fault. Be nice. People are crazy and I'
1:03:36
m not to blame for what happened to me for being just nice to someone
1:03:40
and I feel like there I found a little bit between that and the field
1:03:46
teddy. He found a sad answer he was looking for. Me two things.
1:03:54
One I agree with. Thank you, I don' t mean that,
1:04:00
yes, I work, but I want to first because I forget.
1:04:03
I know it upsets me a lot at first by the name of the series
1:04:08
in Spain, but I don' t think it' s wrong at all.
1:04:11
It seems to me that this evil makes a hundred percent sense with something
1:04:15
yes, but to spoil that because it doesn' t have a single meaning.
1:04:16
Well teddy reindeer until the end we say my network of movies is like
1:04:20
putting it to sixth sense. It was good all the time, like last
1:04:26
movie but no, no, no, no, for a chair reason and
1:04:28
it is that sex yes, with that twist, yes, but the sixth
1:04:31
sense, without that twist, is a half- creative boring movie. Well,
1:04:34
yeah, the movie' s just spinning. This is an interesting turn
1:04:38
at the end, but the series is much more than that. But it
1:04:41
just means no. I think it' s so hairy. I don'
1:04:45
t mean, I think it' s better daby randir or seeing, but
1:04:47
I don' t think it' s that bad for him. But yes,
1:04:48
yes, I am also jealous because I have no doubt that there are
1:04:53
people who see it as typical of cyclical history. So now this man is
1:04:58
going to start being his stalker. But no, Doni, that' s
1:05:01
not it. Don is different, donni if he has his traumas and his
1:05:06
obsessions, but I don' t see him in that. But I do
1:05:13
feel that. I do feel like it' s like a fact that he
1:05:17
' s on this side now, that he' s getting this tea and
1:05:26
seeing that doesn' t really change anything. So that' s like that
1:05:30
' s not a time that' s going to define the future of your
1:05:31
life, that' s not, I mean now I' m not 100
1:05:35
% in love with this person. Now I' m not obsessed as if
1:05:38
he helped me in a moment Piyla. Severo, thank you, Severo,
1:05:42
thank you, if I like that vision that helps you to forgive yourself,
1:05:50
to stop feeling guilt in that situation by stopping already what you stand for and
1:06:08
the end is quite beautiful. It' s that that' s open,
1:06:12
that you don' t know if or not. What happens is that I
1:06:15
took that very personal series for a lot of things, by the time I
1:06:18
' m going on about both characters and I am I ended up married,
1:06:28
since we' re in oesch Chering let' s say I ended up married
1:06:31
because they paid attention to me. And I ended up with a caution because
1:06:35
they would pay attention to me because it was they gave me the right attention,
1:06:41
at the right time, at the right time. I mean, I
1:06:42
got the tea and it was like oh my God what is this? And
1:06:47
then starts the whole relationship based on attention to the point where I can understand
1:06:56
why Marta gets obsessed or why Donny has the possibility of obsessing about this one
1:07:00
goes to attend then it' s trihist chip is beautiful. That' s
1:07:11
what an open ending is all about, especially an open ending. Well done
1:07:15
that you and I, playing po, just said I don' t see
1:07:16
that point. Ana comes and says that and I think neither you nor I
1:07:21
have arguments to say nothing. Otherwise, because the end is perfectly done,
1:07:26
perfectly open. That' s what makes a good open ending, a good
1:07:30
open ending, an ending that closes a story, because if it closes the
1:07:32
stories, the exact story of Marta is over. But that but the next
1:07:39
step is completely indecipherable. We have one theory, when I have one theory
1:07:48
ana has another and both are perfectly viable. And if that' s how
1:07:55
it' s obviously, I' m not seeing it happen. I wish
1:07:57
it would never happen, but if I came to see a second tempo,
1:08:00
out there any of the things we said could continue this story and it would
1:08:08
still make sense, because it' s an open ending, well done.
1:08:10
But I feel like I don' t. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
1:08:13
yeah. That' s what I remember, but I feel like you
1:08:16
' re in second season. This series is no longer based on done,
1:08:19
that is because it actually happened in real life. It' s like now
1:08:21
you' re going to make a fiction ficciot yes yes, Stani that never
1:08:28
exactly now I' m not saying now I don' t know. I
1:08:30
feel like I want there to be a second part, I don' t
1:08:31
expect there to be a second part and it doesn' t make sense,
1:08:40
I' m just saying the continuation that every story we end up with is
1:08:41
our heads. Yes, yes, and there are stories that, when they
1:08:45
end, only leave a possible continuation. Yeah. For example, day or
1:08:49
the shooting Words was not supposed to end in a second season because the series
1:08:54
was called Thead of the fucking Word. But good. For example, no,
1:08:56
but, for example, Harry Potter closes in one way or another.
1:09:00
Harry Potter since he started was how voldemor is going to lose exactly. It
1:09:04
' s a 100 percent line story. This, when it ends, leaves
1:09:12
endless possibilities like life itself. Like the life itself Juan po ras walk sta
1:09:25
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1:09:38
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I think I already said, but it' s really fun and now,
1:12:00
from zero to ten how many jugs of water, how much cold water they
1:12:09
threw to ody Ana. Woe to me this series really shocked me in so
1:12:17
many ways. So, Juan wants to hit me what' s normal.
1:12:21
How I want to give you. I don' t want to hit anyone
1:12:29
who' s normal. It made me question so many things about how I
1:12:36
' ve assumed so many relationships that I' ve never seen anything similar counted
1:12:44
in audiovisual from a man' s perspective. In how you can also victimize
1:12:47
a man, in how that is not paid enough attention. Why harassment is
1:12:53
different when it is from one side or the other that it is typified,
1:12:58
not crime. I' ve made so many connections that for me the series
1:13:04
is already more. The music I also loved the music is a nine nine.
1:13:11
I don' t give you ten because I deeply hate the booth.
1:13:15
He eats my contempt deeply, but he makes it anti- comedy and he
1:13:23
' s good at it. Says the future comedian. Says the future comedian.
1:13:27
So when I' m already inviting you home, uh something so you
1:13:34
' re either going to be or you' re going to take out the
1:13:39
Atlanticomedia. There we will see a nine nine, perfect tom Juan Dopu from
1:13:46
zero to ten. How many curtains you put on this series. He hangs
1:13:51
up. She tells me this series, I mean, I had a hard
1:13:58
time, I had a really bad time. All chapters. There wasn'
1:14:01
t a chapter where I' d say," Oh, that' s
1:14:04
good, that' s a beach chapter" That should be the eighth chapter
1:14:06
of the beach chapter, after a quarter, or do you think about p
1:14:12
the beach chapter? No, I mean? Not that it' s beach
1:14:15
chapter? With quiet rengla. Nothing happened here. We can all rest if
1:14:18
we' re not going back to normal life, because here I make some
1:14:21
serial networks. But I really liked seeing that kind of audiovisual product, because,
1:14:29
like ana, there are things that I have never seen in male vulnerabilities
1:14:34
that are always or taken for granted, or this lack of support networks,
1:14:43
these fears, these shames of feeling less, because they are not so common
1:14:48
in pop culture, because, because heroes always get ahead with their own will
1:14:55
and inner strength and that chimba, but a little cry does not like anyone.
1:15:03
I loved that the show even put where it' s really bad comedian
1:15:10
is that you don' t laugh at anything. He was an asshole.
1:15:14
I loved that. And so, but the whole interpretation of that which is
1:15:18
the House of Martha is wonderful, that is, I loved her or not.
1:15:25
I don' t think I' d hated anyone since I was Frey
1:15:28
Baratenon like her, which is just making me sick. I could see it,
1:15:30
and I was sick of it. Yeah, I mean, even at
1:15:34
the very sad scene of the whereabouts. It was like something bad is going
1:15:40
to be. Something bad is going to be. Don' t go near
1:15:44
there, Neda Stark, don' t go near there. Unbelievable. I
1:15:47
liked it very much and I put nine five, don diego from zero to
1:15:56
ten. How many dating apps to install phone networks of all kinds, of
1:16:02
all typhoon. I have to have installed them. I either count when my
1:16:06
friends took my cell phone and opened a grinder account. Oh, yeah,
1:16:11
the classic quiet one. I' m telling you, we were just talking
1:16:14
about it. According to the friends, they' d tell him what you
1:16:16
' ve done. Yeah, well, the anal ana truth can, can.
1:16:21
It was like that, it was like that. The worst part is,
1:16:26
I don' t know if it' s true or not that they
1:16:29
created the account. I know I' m going to download the app,
1:16:30
but I don' t know if they created the account or not, because
1:16:31
I reese. And that' s never what they tell me. I hope
1:16:35
they didn' t close. The point is, I look back and never
1:16:41
to ever come back, never to come back. The point is, you
1:16:45
' re a good serial. I feel that there is not much more to
1:16:51
say about the quality of the series. The one that' s amazing.
1:16:54
It' s very well done, it' s very well written, it
1:16:57
' s very well acted. Okay, it' s fucking uncomfortable watching this
1:17:02
show. For me it comes from a strange category they from these series that
1:17:05
I liked. But I' m not going to recommend it Yeah, I
1:17:11
' m not, I' m not, but I' m not going
1:17:13
to see it again. I' m sure I' m going to tell
1:17:15
a lot of people that I saw her because it' s a lot to
1:17:18
talk about. But I' m not gonna say the uypeda people do the
1:17:25
show because I don' t know what they don' t. It'
1:17:28
s not a pleasant experience. Not zero and I feel comfortable recommending this.
1:17:33
I don' t, I put everyone to see her, I mean,
1:17:35
if I suffered, everyone has to say yes, no, because I know,
1:17:40
I love the reasons not to keep everything waiting. No. If I
1:17:44
do, yes, they all see it in agreement. I understand that,
1:17:49
but let' s understand that you are worse people than I am. Oh.
1:17:56
No, I don' t know, no, it' s not
1:17:59
because a messi of the tell you I have the constant need to please people
1:18:04
who read to people, I' m not going to recommend something that makes
1:18:08
them feel uncomfortable. That' s why. But what good serial networks?
1:18:14
What a good network to series. I liked it so much and just to
1:18:17
win, not lie. Yeah, it' s kind of. The score
1:18:20
you' re targeting is a nine seven. Okay, so nine nine,
1:18:27
plus nine five more, ninety seven that calculates the diego, I think,
1:18:31
nine seven. What a coincidence now oh yes, no, but seriously,
1:18:35
yes, yes, that is the series, yes, I sound next to
1:18:40
baby rand of then we listened within eight days with the chapter on x MEN
1:18:46
ninety- seven as nine- seven plays And so, thank you very much
1:18:53
for being here, thank you for inviting me. Anyway, thank you because
1:18:58
I invited myself to second invitation, Diego, I told him this I Yana
1:19:02
made me one like that güey said because I' m going to go,
1:19:06
dog I' m going to go because I mailed you or I picked up
1:19:12
e- mails and I got wanted to see Juan dislocated, for my opinion,
1:19:17
and I sent him like hundreds to so many messages on from my iPhone
1:19:21
so you would tell me that that said already goes yes, yes your empathy
1:19:29
travels hey What nice detail when we realize the cent front may iPhone badly written
1:19:31
ush What great detail, what a grande. But thank you very much,
1:19:33
Don Diego to you. I' m juanta apo ya God, you stupid nerts