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The Loneliest Death · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Everyone has a fear, a fear of falling from heights,
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  Speaker 1: the chilling fear of spiders, creepy clowns, or the unknown dark,
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  Speaker 1: and even elevators. Man made machines like these are often
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  Speaker 1: subjects of our imagination's worst nightmare, and in twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: one woman in China was thrown into that nightmare where
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  Speaker 1: she was trapped in an elevator and the only thing
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  Speaker 1: is no one was coming to save her, and she
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  Speaker 1: was left alone, waiting and dying.
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  Speaker 2: Warning.
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  Speaker 1: The following podcast contains graphic content and material intended more
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  Speaker 1: mature audience. Listener discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, how's it going. What the I'm Nicola?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm Ben and you're listening to Wicked.
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  Speaker 2: And Grim the true crime podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Did you forget our intro?
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  Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I kind of was like what am I
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  Speaker 2: supposed to do? We always were changing it up periodically,
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  Speaker 2: and then I get lost and I'm like you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at me, and I'm like I don't what to do.
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  Speaker 1: There was like thirty seconds of dead air there. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna edit that dead air out, but you're just like blank.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be like are they there? Are they there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? And then they won't listen to and I.
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  Speaker 2: Was distracted because Ripley was being really fucking cute.
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  Speaker 1: Ripley's just Ripley. She's always cute as shit's so cute.
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  Speaker 2: Well, before this, we were having some tech technical malfunctions
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  Speaker 2: you call it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need we need new XLR cables.
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  Speaker 2: These ones are Yeah, we're going to be buying those
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  Speaker 2: this week. And then Ben was like, k test your levels.
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  Speaker 2: I was all grumpy and so I was swearing away.
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  Speaker 2: And when I swear, Ripley comes to like comfort me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's like a therapy doug that way. She
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  Speaker 1: can sense if you're like upset totally.
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  Speaker 2: Because sometimes if I'm like working at home alone and
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  Speaker 2: I like something pisses me off or whatever, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she always comes and just puts her head on my
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  Speaker 2: leg and I'm like, you are.
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  Speaker 1: Adorable unless you're getting mad at a TV show or
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  Speaker 1: a movie. And then she comes over to me because
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  Speaker 1: she's just afraid of what you're doing. She's like, why
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  Speaker 1: is she raging at a magic box with static?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I show my emotions too much.
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  Speaker 1: I got to control those, Yeah you do. It's all
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  Speaker 1: good though, So we have some more patrons to thank
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  Speaker 1: this episode. We always have patrons.
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  Speaker 2: To thank you because they're freaking amazing. They're wicked is
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  Speaker 2: what they are, wickedly awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so signed up. This week we have Karen Peacock,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Karen love that name actually, Clara Kay, Josie Hefritt,
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  Speaker 1: I really hope I said your last name right, Josie Hayley,
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  Speaker 1: and Chelsea Polly right on. Some awesome people who joined
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  Speaker 1: us over on Patreon this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are awesome, great names, great people.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for signing up. And those people just got
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  Speaker 1: an extra episode dropped just the other day. On April thirtieth, yep,
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  Speaker 1: the last day of every month, we dropped an exclusive
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  Speaker 1: episode over in Patreon just for our all access patrons
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  Speaker 1: to go over and give it a listen.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and it was wild. I actually it's still heavily
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  Speaker 2: on my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, it's if you guys know it. It's the
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  Speaker 1: Boy and Chimney, It's Joshua Maddox's crazy case crazy And
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  Speaker 1: actually we gave our patrons a choice between two different
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  Speaker 1: episodes on which one they wanted. They selected Joshua Maddox. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then we took the one that lost that round
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  Speaker 1: and then we put that one up against today's episode,
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  Speaker 1: and they voted on which episode they want to hear today,
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  Speaker 1: and they voted on this one that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: hear today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically they just get a lot of control.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, get a lot of control. Thank you for controlling
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  Speaker 1: us this week, patrons, you're awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're helping us make decisions. Let's just put it that.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding. Sometimes it's hard to make the column
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  Speaker 1: which case we want to cover, So I think we're
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  Speaker 1: going to throw it over to them a little more
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  Speaker 1: often on which case we should be doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a giant list right now, so I
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  Speaker 2: might need some help.
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  Speaker 1: A big old list.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that was on our list for
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  Speaker 1: a long time was to start a Twitter page.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently it was and apparently it was, well I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I knew it was on our list, and then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, I just came home one day. We
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  Speaker 2: have Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: what to use Twitter, But okay, we.
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  Speaker 1: Got Twitter now. Yeah, we officially have six followers over
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter. So if you want to help our Twitter out,
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  Speaker 1: and you do the tweeting.
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  Speaker 2: You do you do the tweeting or give us some tips?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us how to use the app because we've
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  Speaker 1: never used Twitter before. So yeah, head on over there,
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  Speaker 1: find us and follow us and talk to us and chill.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm definitely the best on Instagram Facebook.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not bad at but I don't like seem like
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  Speaker 2: I put as much effort into it anymore as I
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  Speaker 2: used to. Fair, But yeah, Instagram is the shit. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's good to branch out. It's good to learn new things.
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  Speaker 1: It is. And speaking of branching out, we actually did
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  Speaker 1: another blog post too on our website because we got
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  Speaker 1: to start doing that more often we do, so I
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  Speaker 1: think that's officially our second blog post on wickedinggrim dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was about us being in the two percent.
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  Speaker 1: Rank, right, yeah, okay, get this. We are ranked in
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  Speaker 1: the top two percent wild of all podcasts globally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was actually telling that to someone the other
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  Speaker 2: day and they're like, like, of the true crime ones
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, no.
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  Speaker 1: Just all podcasts, yea, which is because.
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  Speaker 2: Actually remember but I was like, I think it's all
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  Speaker 2: but that seems too good to be true. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because of you guys out there tuning in every week,
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  Speaker 1: we are ranked top two percent of all podcasts across
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  Speaker 1: the world.
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  Speaker 2: Nuts, it's nuts it is. It floats my boat, it.
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  Speaker 1: Floats, your boat, floats my boat. I thought you were
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  Speaker 1: gonna say it blows my mind, but you went completely
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  Speaker 1: different directions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like to change it up once in a while.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm drinking delicious cider cheese sandwich. Just kidding, delicious
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  Speaker 2: cheese sandwiches, a dry apple cider. It's her mermad actually
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  Speaker 2: cider company, and it is dope. I'm really enjoying it thoroughly.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear a word what you said because I'm
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  Speaker 1: still in delicious cheese sandwiches.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I cannot. I will never ever be able to
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  Speaker 2: say delicious without thinking delicious cheese.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of that, though, Tom Green, if you guys don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I also ate the most moldiest piece of cheese
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  Speaker 2: in history today, smooth, and didn't even notice until I
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  Speaker 2: went to take a second bite.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us the story. Indulgous.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's just disgusting. Like my stomach actually hurt most
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  Speaker 2: to day. But I don't know if that was in
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  Speaker 2: my head or the mold was actually grown in there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm growing in there, all right.
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  Speaker 2: But basically, I have to take this like it was
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  Speaker 2: a cheese stick thing. Take it from the fridge, put
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  Speaker 2: in my lunch, open that cheese, said cheese stick. Take
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  Speaker 2: a bite. It tastes like absolute shit. But I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: maybe my mouth just tastes funny, Like what the fuck
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  Speaker 2: eat some crackers? Go to take another bite? Holy fuck,
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  Speaker 2: mold stick, this mold the whole thing was like green.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't even I was like, okay, well, I'm on
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  Speaker 2: my way to take photos right now. And now clearly
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in an observant state whatsoever, so this photo
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  Speaker 2: shoot might not go so well.
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  Speaker 1: But she knocked it out of the park.
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  Speaker 2: Bill I did, but I need to be more observant
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to eating cheese.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, Well, cheese aside, mold a side.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: You're ready to get on with this case?
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  Speaker 2: I'm still ready?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, fore warning, this is fucking crazy. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: all I really got to say. It's it's a rather
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  Speaker 1: short episode. There's not a whole lot of information to
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  Speaker 1: go on with this one, but it's it's a wild ride.
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  Speaker 2: So I am very intrigued because it seems it's like
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  Speaker 2: a case that I can't comprehend. So I do need
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  Speaker 2: to learn a little bit more about this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's got that wow factor. Let's put it
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  Speaker 1: that way.
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  Speaker 2: M hmm, like somebody fucked up. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, let's put that way up. That's a really
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  Speaker 1: good way of putting it. Okay, So here it goes.
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  Speaker 2: You ready, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: You'd had to finish taking your sip. Sorry, bad timing. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: our story takes place in a city called Xian. I
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  Speaker 1: think I said that right, No ci ci Cian China.
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  Speaker 1: I literally researched how to say it, like for half
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  Speaker 1: fucking minutes.
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  Speaker 2: That's literally every episode.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's how you say it. Okay, that's so
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  Speaker 1: x I a Nann and Sheanne has a rich history
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  Speaker 1: and culture that dives deep into like literally our history,
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  Speaker 1: like way fucking back. And it's home to incredible tourism
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  Speaker 1: with of course delicious food, and it's renowned for its
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  Speaker 1: terra Cotta Army. Now, the terrrat car Cotta Army is
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  Speaker 1: a collection of terracotta sculptures depicting an army for the
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  Speaker 1: first Emperor of China. All the sculptured art pieces were
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  Speaker 1: actually buried with the emperor in twenty ten to sorry
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  Speaker 1: two hundred ten and two hundred and nine BCE, with
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  Speaker 1: the purpose of protecting the emperor. And it's in is afterlife.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: There are eight thousand of these life size terracotta fucking statues.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, isn't terra cotta the it's clay. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: it's like very fragile.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I've I don't know how I'm the pots
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  Speaker 2: that I've had, I've broken that was our terracotta, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like those like red and rounds, this terracotta.
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  Speaker 2: That's really cool though, to like visualize that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's eight thousand of these terra cotta soldiers
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  Speaker 1: life size, and each one has an estimated value of
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  Speaker 1: four point five million dollars US.
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  Speaker 2: So can you see them, like are they visible like
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  Speaker 2: or are they like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what they have for the tourism aspect
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  Speaker 1: of it, but you can go on Google and see
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  Speaker 1: a picture of all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I was just curious to you visit them, right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's.
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  Speaker 1: Some in the museum, but I'm pretty sure most of
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  Speaker 1: them are like stowed away and you can probably visit
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  Speaker 1: the site where they were excavated.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyways, just want to get into that a
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  Speaker 1: little bit because it was really cool. But hian is
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  Speaker 1: a bustling city with a population of around eight point
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  Speaker 1: five million people and around six point nine million million
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  Speaker 1: people in twenty sixteen when our story takes place.
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  Speaker 2: Good lord, I can't imagine living in a city that large.
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  Speaker 1: It's massive.
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  Speaker 2: We don't even have one hundred thousand people in our city,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes I'm like, why are there so many people everywhere?
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  Speaker 1: People are fucking annoying, let's put that way. So being
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  Speaker 1: in Chianne, being that it's a busy city with an
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  Speaker 1: enormous amount of people, it's reasonable to expect that to
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  Speaker 1: keep up with demands of such thing as like maybe maintenance,
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  Speaker 1: companies had to look for contractors to keep tabs on
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  Speaker 1: their facilities so they can focus on other aspects of
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  Speaker 1: their business. Now, one business that took advance of this
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  Speaker 1: were property managers and developers. It just made more sense
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  Speaker 1: to have, you know, professionals come in to the scene
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  Speaker 1: and fix everything, pay them and be on their way. Now,
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  Speaker 1: in theory, this works great. However, in practice, as we
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  Speaker 1: will soon find out, that wasn't quite the case. Now
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  Speaker 1: there's a woman who has only been identified by her
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  Speaker 1: last name Wu. She lived on the fifteenth floor of
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  Speaker 1: an apartment building surrounded by millions of other people. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Wu was a forty three year old woman who stuck
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  Speaker 1: to herself. Her neighbors didn't see much of her and
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  Speaker 1: assumed her to be a bit of a loaner, but
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  Speaker 1: polite enough when they did meet her in the hall
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  Speaker 1: in the apartment buildings.
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  Speaker 2: So she lived alone.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, she lived alone, just kind of chilled by herself
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  Speaker 1: sort of thing. Now, Wu's family would also tell a
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  Speaker 1: bit of small similar details, saying that she liked to
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  Speaker 1: keep to herself and also had a history of mental illness,
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  Speaker 1: though that history of mental illness wasn't disclosed on exactly
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  Speaker 1: what that means, but something like that would, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: would be even more difficult to deal with when surrounded
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  Speaker 1: by millions of people in a bustling city like that.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, her apartment was undoubtedly her sanctuary.
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  Speaker 2: I actually just want to touch on that because I've
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  Speaker 2: been like to Vancouver quite often and like when you're
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  Speaker 2: on the skytrain and stuff, you're literally like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is kind of pretty covid. I guess it might
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  Speaker 2: be back to this, but you're like shoulder to shoulder,
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  Speaker 2: which is so many people, but like you're just it's
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  Speaker 2: like the feeling of just being lonely, Like no one
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  Speaker 2: says anything, no one even tries to look at you,
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  Speaker 2: like they avoid eye contact, like someone's living in big cities.
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  Speaker 2: It's like lonely as heck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Vancouver is a small city compared to someplace
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  Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, so yeah, it's you're completely disconnected. You're
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  Speaker 1: to yourself, and yeah, you're surrounded by people, but you're completely.
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  Speaker 2: Alone, like at least here. I mean, gosh, every daily
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  Speaker 2: you go by, like you're probably smiling at a stranger, right,
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  Speaker 2: there's at least like some sort of contact per se.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Someone holds a door open for you,
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  Speaker 1: or there's small talk at the cashier register at the
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  Speaker 1: grocery store, things like that, right.
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  Speaker 2: Which sometimes can be like so annoying, But then I
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  Speaker 2: mean comparatively, maybe it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean we bitch about it too lots,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or you run into someone from you know
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  Speaker 1: high school that you have to have that small talk
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  Speaker 1: conversation with or whatever, or maybe a family member or
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  Speaker 1: whatever that you haven't seen in years, and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I got to get on my way, but I got
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  Speaker 1: to talk to this person. Oh it's annoying. But I
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  Speaker 1: mean those that makes us not feel quite so alone,
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  Speaker 1: whether we realize it or not.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, So, yeah, I know there's always a moment in
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  Speaker 2: my head is like how can I get out of
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  Speaker 2: this situation? But then usually I can't, and then it's
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  Speaker 2: like enjoyable. So I don't know, that's just me being me.
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  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is, bitch, leave me alone. Well, anyways,
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  Speaker 1: we're going back to the date. On January thirtieth, twenty sixteen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Wu found herself leaving her apartment to venture off into
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  Speaker 1: the busy city. As she reached the elevator, as she
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  Speaker 1: always did, she pressed her button and she waited. The
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  Speaker 1: elevator doors closed behind her, but Wu wouldn't make it
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  Speaker 1: to the floor she wanted to. You see, the elevator
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  Speaker 1: malfunctioned with Wu inside, and it stopped stuck between the
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  Speaker 1: ninth and tenth floor, leaving her stranded inside the elevator
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  Speaker 1: completely alone.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I just hate that.
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  Speaker 1: And luckily, of course, the maintenance department were quickly notified
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  Speaker 1: as soon as malfunction was discovered and they came to
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  Speaker 1: the scene for the repairs. So upon the arrival the
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  Speaker 1: repair men got there and Wu must I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to say I know how long she was
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  Speaker 1: in there for. I can't find a report on that,
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  Speaker 1: but Wu mustn't have been waiting very long. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to assume maybe like somewhere like under an hour. But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: the two men got to the scene, but they were
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  Speaker 1: rather hurried. So it was January thirtieth after all, which
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  Speaker 1: is you know, and Chinese New Year, and Chinese New Year,
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  Speaker 1: also called the Lunar New Year, has an annual fifteen
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  Speaker 1: day festival in China, and Chinese communities around the world
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  Speaker 1: celebrate this. Their workdays must have been long, these two individuals.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure with jobs that a lot of people book
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  Speaker 1: vacation off before the holidays, during the holidays, after the
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  Speaker 1: holidays because of all the celebrations going on, and of
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  Speaker 1: course businesses shut down, so it's pretty strapped for employees
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  Speaker 1: to be working. People are rushed, they want to get home,
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  Speaker 1: whether they're you know, tired of their long day shift
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  Speaker 1: or they're on their edge for vacation as well. And
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: being on the verge of vacation is exactly what was
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  Speaker 1: happening here.
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  Speaker 2: So your mind is just solely somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, you're just like, I just want to get home.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to get off the job.
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  Speaker 2: We've all been there, Oh totally.
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  Speaker 1: We're watching the clock, you know, it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's four point thirty. I get off at five o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: That last half hours ticking by because you just just
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  Speaker 1: want to go, and you end up like darting for
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  Speaker 1: the door like three minutes early, but your your bag
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  Speaker 1: is packed like five minutes early, and you're already dumping
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  Speaker 1: out the remainder of your coffee cup, you know, ten
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  Speaker 1: minutes early and washing out your cup.
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  Speaker 2: You're ready to roll, you know.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of the situation here. Their maintenance business
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: was closing for the holidays, and that's exactly what was
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: going on, and the repair men decided to hold off
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: on fixing this elevator until they got back from their vacation.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, so of course we know WU is inside
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: and the two men didn't know this. So what they
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: did is they shouted into the elevator to see if
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: they could hear if anyone was inside. They didn't hear
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: any reply.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Don't know.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Was it like soundproof? Don't know, because that's like another
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: thing that I'm just curious, like, wouldn't you be like
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: yelling and like, I mean, you think someone would hear you,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: even like someone living in the rest.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's it's hard to say why no one
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: heard Wu. It's hard to say if these men actually
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: did call out to her, but they claimed they called
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: out and tried to see if anyone was in the elevator.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: My brain is so peer I never even went there.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: They could have just been shipped their jobs and not
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: even actually checked. And then just later when it's found
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: out that shit went down, then they're like, oh, we joked.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: It's so easy to say, not saying that they didn't,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: not saying that they didn't.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: So they the claim is that they shouted to see
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: if there was anyone inside, and they did not hear
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: a reply. So the two men simply disabled the elevator
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: so no one could use it and then left with
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: of course Wu still trapped inside and this is one
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: hundred and ten percent against any sort of workplace protocol
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: for this situation. The men, if leaving the elevator like this,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: would have known that they are supposed to manually open
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the elevator to ensure it was empty before leaving it unattended.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: They literally need to make sure they look inside, not
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: just be like it was up anyone in there.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Like, it's so good, and that was like a rule
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: at the time, right, not something that came to be
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: after correct. Okay, that's so good because I just feel
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: like at this point, I was like, I'm never going
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: in another elevator. But no, that that's.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: What they're supposed to do. If they're leaving it unattended
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: like that and disabling it or whatever, they need to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: ensure there is no one inside. I mean, it's it's
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: pretty basic.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that makes sense.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Really, But regardless they chose not to do this. These
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: two men made a distinctive choice to walk away without
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: checking the inside.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Oh man, that's cringey.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, So they walked away and alone inside, Wu must
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: have heard the men cry out for her. If they did,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: she must have heard them, and she must have cried
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: out for help. Even banging on the doors to get
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: their attention, but somehow it went unanswered. Now, I guarantee
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you she thought they must be coming back. They will
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: go off, they'll need to do what they do, get
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: tools or whatever, and they'll back any minute. And so
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Wu inevitably waited and waited. Hours passed, and eventually it
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: was the next day, and eventually it was the next day. Slowly,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Wu would have begun suffering from the effects of dehydration
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: before she would have realized no one was coming to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: get her. She tried and tried to pry the door open,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: but it wouldn't budge. She would kick it, bash it
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: with her fists, anything she could do to try and
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: break free, but the door remained closed no matter what
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: she did tried, and none of her neighbors in her
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: apartment would hear any of the ruck as she made
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: or any cries for help.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, that is just scut wrenching.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And this might be due to the fact that this
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: elevator was closed, so they were using a different elevator
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: in a different location, so people may have been avoiding
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: this area.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: But so it must not have been next to like
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: any apartment apartments or anything.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I'm unclear on that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Holy heck, I just like I can't I literally
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: can't imagine someone not hearing her. I know, I think
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: that people probably would have had to at some point
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: heard something funny. But then, like, who's going to be like, oh,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: there's someone stuck in the elevator. You just like think
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: it was something else.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean you're in a city of millions
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, you hear some banging on the walls. Oh,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: noisy neighbors again.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: You hear some screening noises all the time.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Some kid out in the streets screaming away. Someone needs
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to shut up their kid. Like, you never know, right,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: someone may have heard and just didn't realize it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Oh boy.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So Now, regarding the dehydration, for most people, approximately ten
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: days is the average time one can last before succumbing
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and dying. In rare instances, the process can take as
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: long as several weeks.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: In Wu's case, she would eventually pass away while trapped
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: inside the elevator, but not from dehydration. It would be
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: from starvation. Now, people can expect to last a lot
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: longer before they starve, as long as forty three to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: seventy days before we pass away from starvation, which is incredible.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was that long. Like I was
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: pretty much like starving because I didn't eat for like
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: five hours today. So that really makes me feel like, Wow.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I believe it was average body mass. You can
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: your body can consume up to eighteen percent of your
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: body mask before you start to fail and die from it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And I believe if you're above that body mass, the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: average it's around twenty percent.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, Now how long Wu actually lasted is unknown, but
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the repair men returned to open the elevator door a
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: month later. I've read different reports anywhere between twenty seven
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: days to thirty days later before they opened the door.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: When they did open the door, they found Wu lying
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: on the elevator floor, lifeless. It was also noted that
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: one of her hands were placed up against the elevator
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: door above where she laid were multiple marks, dents, and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: scratches in the door where she tried to free herself,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and her bare hands were beaten and mangled from trying
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to escape.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: That's too much lot, that is like whoa, my heart, Oh,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I just can't even imagine, especially if this poor woman
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: had like mental health issues and stuff. I mean, anyone
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: would have mental health issues in that kind of situation.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh that is just that has I don't know.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's pretty brutal ways to die, but that's.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Bad, that's heartbreaking, and this is why it's This case
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is known as the loneliest death, just isolated screaming, no
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: one can hear you. But just like you had already mentioned,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you're in a city surrounded by millions of people, but
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you are nothing but alone. And that's exactly what she was.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Because I honestly think in your mind you would just
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: be like, how on earth could anyone how I'm not like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I just don't even think you accept it. You wouldn't
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: accept that you were dying in there. There's no way,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: there's no way. I'd be like, no, someone's coming, Like
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: someone's coming, someone's coming, and they just.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Never come until a month later. I'm a month oh yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: after their celebration.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, how long were they celebrating for?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: They'd probably just like ended up getting busy with other
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: jobs and forgetting well.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have been busy from other jobs, could
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: have been with vacations on top of it, and they
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have the time to get back. Like, who knows
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: what the whole compilation of issues were, but it was
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a matter of the holidays mixed with whatever the fuck
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: else for.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: A month went through their brain when they opened that door.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine. I'd feel so fucking guilty if
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that were me.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like I wow, I don't even know if
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: like to just like carry on after you would just
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: never your day would never ever be the same. I
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Now. Wu's family had reported her missing to the authorities,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and they had checked up on her apartments but never
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: saw any sign of her, and her missing was assumed
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it was due to her mental illness, and they they
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: thought she might have run away or she may have
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: been a recluse somewhere, and they wouldn't They couldn't locate her,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and they were just in hopes that she would eventually
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: turn up safe. I mean, how do you find a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: missing person in a city of millions?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Right again, I mean, they probably didn't even consider the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: elevator that was broken down.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Nope, knocking on their daughter's door. With the broken down elevator,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: they would have had to have gone to the elevator
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: shaft realize that all this one's broken and had to
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: have gone to the other one to get up to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: her apartment to.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Look for Oh wow, yep, yep.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So now, needless to say, like her family was fucking outrage.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: That's clear.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I don't blame them.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And they weren't alone. There was public outcry over the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: neglect from the maintenance department and how they could have
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: overlooked someone being trapped in the fucking elevator, especially since
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the first case of neglect.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Of someone stuck in an elevator, or just neglect.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Just neglect. There was a protest set up outside the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: apartment against the administrators of the complex and the maintenance company.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Signs were being held up in protest. People were rallying
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and cried out in a plea for you know, why
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: aren't we being treated like fucking human beings? Why did
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: she have to die after not being checked on for
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: a month when she should have been checked on in
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the first place. Shouldn't have even been hours, let alone
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a month. No, there's one resident who in the protest
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: said into a news report and I quote, there's now
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a shadow across my heart. It's scary, and it gives
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: me shivers to pass by it when they are referencing
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the elevator.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that just gave me goose bumps, a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: shadow across my heart. Yeah wow.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Another resident of the apartment complex reported that the building
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: management service was poor and routinely ignored residence complaints about
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: frequent broken elevators and other matters. So it wasn't abnormal
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to have broken elevators that just didn't fucking work or
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: weren't working properly and for them to just ignore it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: And so it's freaking lucky maybe that this had not
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: already happened to something one.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Hundred percent and it was only a matter of time
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: of something like this that was going to happen, because
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: unfortunately in the first case, like I don't even know
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: where's going with that sentence, but like something was going
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: It's very disturbing.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know, it's it's brutal. I'm surprised
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: didn't happen sooner, but it did happen, and it was
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: only a matter of time that was going to happen.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Now in there's another area in China called chez shen Zen,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: there we go. And on May fifteen teenth of twenty thirteen,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a woman was riding an elevator. Another elevator incident. And
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: this is this is prior to Yes, this is a
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: few years prior. The woman was riding the elevator and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: she went to exit the elevator doors and she got
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: pinched between the elevator doors between her shoulders, and while pinched,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the elevator quickly dropped and plummeted with her head sticking out,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and the elevator effectively turned into a guillotine as she
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: was decapitated, and her body fell back inside onto the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: crowd that was still in the elevator, and they had
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: to wait for the doors to open up at the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: bottom before they could exit, when her lifeless body landed
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: on the ground. No, yes, and I do not recommend it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But there is CCTV footage of this on YouTube, who
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: though it has blurred out, thankfully, I did watch it,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and I wish I didn't, Okay, if.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: There has ever been a reason to take them on,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the fuck of stairs? You take the stairs? This is unbelievable.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of stairs.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, are they not safe either?
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: On July twenty seventh of twenty fifteen, in a mall
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in China, at ten oh one am, two mall employees
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: rode an escalator and when they reached the top and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: stepped off, they found that the safety plate at the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: top landing was loose and they almost fell through into
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the escalator gears and cogs below. Now, they quickly notified
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: maintenance and they stood waiting at the top for them
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to arrive. And then nine minutes later, at ten ten am,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a woman holding her three year old son made their
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: way to the top of the escalator. There's again CCTV
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: footage of this. I watched it. It's not as graphic,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: but you know what happened, so I don't recommend you
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: watch it either. But it shows the two workers standing
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: there who had the incident nine minutes before, motioned towards
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that loose plate at the top, almost as if they
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: were trying to warn the woman how she supposed to do.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: At that point, it was too late. She stepped on
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it and she fell through. Luckily, she managed to push
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: her three year old son past the opening to safety.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: The mall, however, wasn't shut down. The floor was simply
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: closed off, while public unknowingly continued their shopping while a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: four hour rescue ensued to rescue the woman who fell
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: into the gear system of the escalator, and it took
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that four hours before they found the thirty year old
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: woman lifeless and mangled in the escalator steel structure.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Holy hack.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: So this is not the first incident of neglect of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: maintenance and a severe incident occurring.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Those are some brutal gas.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: And there's more out there like that. I couldn't keep
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: researching them. I was like, I gotta stop this.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Well, that is just traumatic. There's just like no way
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that you Oh man. I was already afraid of escalators.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I like, take my sweet ass time on them because
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this shit doesn't seem right, like there should
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: just be stairs here.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're not wrong.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: And uh wow, okay, yeah, so it's kind of fucked up.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said, there are a whole whopping
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: load of cases like this out there. I don't suggest
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you guys go out there and research these ones because
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: these ones, it's most of them. They have video evidence
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: of these ones, and it's scary.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: And there's just something on my mind though, it's like
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: this escalator is fucked up, but we're gonna warn people
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: at the very top that it's fucked up. Yes, Like
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: does that make any any sense? No, it doesn't because
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: at that point, what are you supposed to do? Run
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the fuck down the escalator? Like, yeah, I don't get that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: That's that's one of the arguments you can see on
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: like the YouTube comment section is like, why the fuck
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: did those two workers just stand there?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, at least they were doing they were doing something.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: They didn't just walk off.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: They did something. Yes, they notified maintenance, and they were
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: at least standing there in attendance, but they're at the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: wrong end. Their attendance didn't do anything because they didn't
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: speak up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Oh just to think too that this mom like pushed
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: their kid at Oh, that's that's a lot.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, as for the maintenance in charge of the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: elevator that killed Wu, the company and the maintenance firm
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: in charge of the faulty elevator were detained by police,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and the report stated this, The local police are investigating
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: when and why she entered the elevator and why. The
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: property management and residents all stated they were unaware. What
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: do you mean, Sorry, they're looking into when she got
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: in the elevator. And why no one hurt her?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought you meant like why she was
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: getting in the elevator and leaving, so she was leaving
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: her apartment. Okay, I get it. I get it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: And that's that's about it. That's kind of where this
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: case drops off.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, was there like serious lawsuits and shit?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Well, all my research has unfortunately come up dry with
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: what happened after this. I have read some hearsay that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: they were being charged, but I can't find out with
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: what or whether it went through or if it was
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a fine or jail time or anything.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that is some serious neglect it is.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: However, if it's anything like here in Canada, they will
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: undoubtedly or would have undoubtedly be held criminally negligent. Now,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: we have a bill in Canada that speaks directly to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the workplace, and considering this is couldtech be considered a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: workplace incident? It very well could be applicable in Canada.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: We have something called the Westre Bill or Bill C
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: forty five. It's a federal legislation that amends the Canadian
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Criminal Code and it became law in March thirty first
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: of two thousand and four. The bill established new legal
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: duties for workplace health and safety and impose serious penalties
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: for violations that result in injuries or death. Now, it
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: basically states that if found negligent in a workplace or
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: safety protocols that you took steps specifically to ignore them,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: then you can be held criminally accountable and serve jail
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: time or possibly a fine. So, for example, if your
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: boss knowingly puts you in a dangerous situation you get
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: hurt or killed, they can literally be put behind bars.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, it is.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: This is rather progressive as far as workplace incidents worldwide. Unfortunately,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: if I'm going to be brutally honest in my my opinion,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling the company simply got a slap,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: got slapped with a small fine and that's about it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Which that's what.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I think is unreally awful. And I would hope, though,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: of anything that they learned from this, or that there
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: was some sort of something that came out of this
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: that to prevent it from ever happening again. It needs
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: to have I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know if really anything is being done though. I mean,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you can do legislation, you can do protocols.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: But I mean they already had it. Yeah, they already
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: had it to look in there and they didn't.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly people scret around it. They cut corners.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're yeah, when you get comfortable and you're
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: doing a job for too long, like it does happen.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is this is something actually I know
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit of because this is my day job.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm a health and safety coordinator, and I see all
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the time people cutting corners just because it saves a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: little bit of time or that whole end of the
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: day attitude like it's almost five o'clock, almost going to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: go home. Yeah, people drop their guard and whether it's
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: your own life for someone else's, it's going to catch
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: up eventually.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Well, And honestly, I do think it's just like this
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: day and age though, and everybody has just so much
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: on their mind at every time. Oh yeah, Like people
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: are just like overworked. They just have like too many
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: family responsibilities. Like I don't know, I just feel like
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: there's just always so many things going on inside your
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: brain that it gets just easy to sometimes like sometimes
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: even like driving, like you're driving, like I'm sure I'm
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: paying attention and stuff, but like you get to your
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: destination and you're like, whoa, I made it here. Yeah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: like that's really bad.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: It is. And like you say, there's a lot of
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: things in your mind. However, there's there's no excuse at
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the same time, just like if you drink and drive,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: or if you're on your cell phone you drive and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you get in an accident and you kill someone, it's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: your fault. I'm sorry, it's your faul.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I see a lot of people nowadays text or
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: like on their phones while they're driving, like constantly. It's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a constant thing. It's almost like normal, like, which is
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: so bad because holy heck, things can happen on the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: road in an instant.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Yep, and people just don't think, well it's not gonna
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: happen to me, or it's just a second, it doesn't matter.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm pretty sure there's no one in there. Yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: well look what happened. There was someone in there and
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: you literally killed them in thirty days.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I just hate how like just her struggle of trying
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: to get out of there. Oh, and how you could
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: see it on her body and stuff.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: That is just it's got horrifying, horrifying, Yes, absolutely horrible.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Well, anyways, we hope you liked this. Episode, and thank
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• 37:41
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• 37:43
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• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, there's been heavier ones, I feel there is, but.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. The ones that really get me are
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: when there's there's people who just don't do their due diligence,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: when people just walk away from it, you know, whether
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: it's a witness, whether it's the police, or whether it's
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: fucking elevator maintenance.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: When it could very easily have not been in that fate.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when it's preventable, that's when that always gets me
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, I not that I understand, but I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: realize there's people out there who are just going to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: do absolutely horrendous things because that's who they are, that's
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: in their system. Generally, we can't change that that's not
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: necessarily preventable. But if a civilian or someone who doesn't
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: have that in their system just makes the wrong decision,
• 38:30
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• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was so close to me, but this
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: was just a very much so unnecessary death.
• 38:37
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