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Macy Gilliam of Morning Brew - Have Frog · Bug Hive with Benny Feldman

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  Bug
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  bug bugghive.
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  >> Wow.
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  >> What's up, dog?
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  >> What's up? That rock.
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  >> Yeah, that was Yeah, that's the first
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  time I've ever done a sweet
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  >> energy.
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  >> It's good. Yeah,
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  >> it's like just a
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  >> It's exciting to clap.
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  >> Yeah,
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  >> I think we should clap more.
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  >> I like uh in general.
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  >> I think I guess in general. I'm kind of
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  pro doing everything more in general.
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  >> Yeah, I can tell. Right before we
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  started recording, I was like, "You've
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  got you've got the most dog in you of
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  anybody I've ever seen. You've got
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  you've got 10 wolves inside of you.
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  You're the you're putting the most
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  effort into short form content of
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  anybody I've ever seen."
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  >> Um, I appreciate that. Thank you. I I
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  try my best. Um, yeah, you can you can
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  really just like do so much stuff. It
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  turns out your day has a lot of hours.
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  People forget that.
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  >> My day I've found all the number of
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  hours possible. I've found them. Yeah.
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  How How are you? Oh, I like that you're
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  you're the Yes.
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  >> I'm locking in on knitting because this
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  is not a joke to me, you know? This is
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  like
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  >> Yes.
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  >> This is part of my my time optimization
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  method is that's why knitting is the
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  perfect hobby is it's like a fidget toy
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  that you can bring with you everywhere
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  and is productive.
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  >> So, you literally just like fidgets
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  around and then you have a sweater at
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  the end.
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  >> That That's l That's so amazing.
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  >> It's really really fun. I saw you
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  working on this and that's part of why I
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  was like I got to get Macy on the pod.
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  You're doing arts and crafts. Folks, by
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  the way, this is Macy Gilliam.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Yep. Hell yeah.
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  >> Uh from Morning Brew and uh Macy goes
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  out and about is the name of the show.
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  >> It's Yep. Out there. That's
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  >> out there with pretty much it. But it's
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  on the Morning Brew channel. So,
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  >> it's great.
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  >> Yeah,
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  >> it's good stuff.
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  >> I saw the recycle like the recycling
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  tech one was I was like, whoa. I did I
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  did do a tech waste recycling one where
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  I followed my tech waste journey. Yeah.
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  That I like it. That's the fun thing
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  about my content is it's all completely
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  natural where it's like Morning Brew
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  doesn't care what I make and so they
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  want me to make whatever I'm interested
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  in. And so frequently it's like I'm
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  actually having the problem of not
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  knowing what to do with my tech waste.
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  And then I go I wonder if anyone knows
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  what to do with their tech waste. And
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  then it's like, okay, sure. You take it
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  to the like tech waste recycle shop.
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  Where does it go from there? Like, how
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  does that actually get recycled? And so,
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  yeah, I got to make a video and follow
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  its its journey down the line.
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  >> No, it's awes It's a thought I've had
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  before, too, where I'm like, if I were
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  to take this to Best Buy or something,
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  I'm like, what are they [ __ ] what are
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  they doing,
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  >> right? What are they doing with it?
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  Maybe I want to keep it. Maybe they're
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  bad with it. I don't know.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Um
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  >> they're looking at my old files.
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  >> They're going through my files. I know
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  they are. All those webcam photos I took
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  in like 2011 where
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  >> they're making fun of my I know that
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  they're making fun of the one with the
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  little birds flying around your head
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  like you got you hit your head they're
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  making fun of me
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  >> is so is this part of a new video cuz I
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  know you
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  >> No, this travel
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  work a lot.
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  >> So So the the sweater thing that I did
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  previously was just on my own for fun.
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  Nothing to do with morning
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  sweater from scratch.
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  >> I made a sweater from scratch starting
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  with shearing a sheep.
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  >> Wow. Um, so there is a working farm in
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  New York City. Did you know this? That
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  has livestock at it. Um, the Queens
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  County Farm Museum. It's like Midtown.
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  >> Yeah, that's Midtown. Um, it's um they
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  have a working farm. They have
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  livestock. Um, it's basically Long
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  Island. Okay. Pretty far out, but um
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  like the one bus that runs out there, I
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  was like at my bus stop like 10 minutes
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  early cuz that's how the bus works.
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  >> Um unfortunately. And I get there and I
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  like text the little thing to be like,
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  "How far away is my bus?" and it goes,
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  "That doesn't run today, idiot."
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  >> And I had to like last minute Uber out
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  there and it was a fortune. But damn.
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  >> Um, but they had a sheep shearing
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  festival in May and I went out there for
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  their sheep shearing festival and then I
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  took home the fleece of a sheep cuz I
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  had this idea that I was like I like I
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  was really into sewing in high school. I
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  had a really cool sewing class at my
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  like public high school in Florida. Um,
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  >> needles. Sorry.
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  >> I know you're all good. Are you Oh, very
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  fun.
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  >> Yeah, I'm going to do I'm going to do
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  some embroidery. Um I've got a beanie.
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  It's just sort of a gray beanie.
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  >> Fun and a butterfly.
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  >> That's the plan. Yeah. When I've been
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  wearing the beanie around, I honestly
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  feel like just wearing a gray beanie, I
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  look kind of
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  >> I don't know. I just feel like
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  >> I look very warm. I feel like it doesn't
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  convey your personality.
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  >> Not a good vibe. So, I'm like, let me
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  just put a butterfly. I didn't mean to
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  interrupt.
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  >> No, that's okay. I asked a question. Um
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  >> I asked a question first.
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  >> Um so, I had this idea. I've always been
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  into sewing. I had a four-year fashion
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  design and construction class in high
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  school that was like crazy for a public
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  high school to have. It was super fun.
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  Um, and then when I moved away to
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  college, I couldn't bring my sewing
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  machine with me, but I missed making
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  stuff. So, then I got into crochet. Then
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  I've always kind of been into that. And
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  then I'm very into like how fiber arts
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  have to do with like women specifically
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  because it's always been like
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  traditionally like women's work to like
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  spin and make fabric and like make
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  clothes. Um, and so like there's this
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  great book that's called Paternal
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  Tyranny that's about this um, woman that
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  was forced to be a nun in like 1400s
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  Florence. And if any woman like if their
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  family couldn't afford like a dowy or
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  whatever, they would just put them in
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  the like nunnery, which was crazy. And
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  then they would be forced to make lace
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  all day, which is like truly the most
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  like nightmarish task.
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  >> Really, really tiny.
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  >> Really really tiny. So difficult to do.
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  And so this woman, it's like sometimes
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  considered like the first work of um
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  like feminist literature, but it's from
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  like 1400 to Florence. It's called
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  Paternal Tyranny. And it was like a huge
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  step in my journey of like acknowledging
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  fiber arts as like uh this like
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  interesting piece of women's history
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  specifically. Um and I'm just very into
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  understanding like production and like
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  how the things that I own are made or
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  recycled. Like that's kind of the common
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  theme I would say in my life.
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  >> Same. I love I love that stuff. I watch
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  a lot of the like logistics like
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  channel. Well, that's how I found your
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  channel partly. It's like Well, cuz I I
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  found you.
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  >> I think I
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  guess maybe I saw some of the videos go
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  viral or something. I don't know. But
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  yeah, like I
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  >> Yeah, I I w I You're part of my video
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  essay YouTube diet.
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  >> Hell yeah.
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  >> Sim similar interest there. Sorry.
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  >> Um no, all good. So, right. Okay. So,
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  I'm super into all of that stuff. And
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  then I got this idea in my head of
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  making my own sweater from scratch.
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  Starting with like shearing the sheep.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> And like truly doing every step for
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  myself, not because I think I would be
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  good at it or because I think that it
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  would be fun, but because I know it is
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  like going to be hellish and a
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  nightmare, but so interesting along the
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  way. Um, and so that's what I did this
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  summer. It took four months. It took 90
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  hours. Um, I yeah, in May I went and
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  picked up the I like watched them shear
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  this sheep and I took the wool home with
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  me and then I like washed it all in my
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  bathtub and then I like brushed it out
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  and then you have to like prep it to be
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  spun and then I spent 30 hours spinning
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  it into yarn. Um,
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  >> oh my god, it's not fun. Um, it's really
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  really terrible.
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  >> Is this a video that's come Is this
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  >> This is a video. This will actually be
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  the first ever video on my personal
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  YouTube channel.
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  >> Oh, cool. Yeah,
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  >> check it out.
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  >> Check it out. Um,
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  >> when it comes out,
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  >> it's Yeah, the channel is up now, but
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  the the video will be coming out soon.
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  Um, I have like some short form stuff on
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  there that's like from along the way of
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  making the sweater, but um I have not
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  edited the entire
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  >> I like how you're able to do that kind
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  of secondary
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  >> like you seem like you're cooking on
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  that. Yeah.
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  >> Like you're like you're definitely like
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  you locked the [ __ ]
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  >> really look up super a lot. So I'm like
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  weird about icons like knitting and
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  talking though. Yeah. But um knitting
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  really is so fun and that's why like
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  knitting has always been like a social
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  activity that like women would sit
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  around and knit and talk like it was
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  like knitting circles.
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  >> That makes sense. You can I um yeah the
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  no the connection to like women's
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  history is interesting there as well. I
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  um it's interesting. I wonder why it's
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  not
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  >> men or like like it does seem because
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  I've really enjoyed embroidery. curious
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  why knitting circles weren't ever
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  >> I think a lot of it was that at the time
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  it wasn't a hobby it was a chore and it
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  was a chore that was safe to be done
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  around children so if the women were
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  already minding the like this is these
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  are things that I've like read um but uh
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  I think that it was something that was
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  safe to be done around children versus
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  like men's chores being like you know
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  using dangerous farming equipment or
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  whatever like not as safe
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  >> um for a woman to be doing with like
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  children around
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  >> interesting so I think that's
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  what it was like.
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  >> Exactly.
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  >> Um, yeah, but I I love it and I do love
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  that's the thing about knitting is I
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  really try to explain to people I'm like
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  it is like a fidget toy. Like it's just
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  fun and easy and I do it while I watch
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  TV instead of picking up my phone.
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  >> Oh, dude. Yeah. Okay. So, I've been
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  embroidering while watching like
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  podcasts or watching like uh honestly
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  that's part of how this happened a
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  little bit. I don't know. I just feel
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  like um I don't know. I I've been really
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  enjoying arts and crafts. I love this
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  idea of I don't know just making making
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  stuff is so fun.
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  >> It's I think we are like oh my attention
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  span I can't watch TV anymore. Like I
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  pick up my phone and it's like
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  >> don't be mad at yourself. Just like pick
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  up something else.
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  >> Yes.
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  >> Like just accept that you want to pick
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  something up and pick something
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  different.
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  >> You need a different fidget.
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  >> You need a different fidget that's not
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  your phone.
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  >> I mean I hope your your pod audience
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  That's so cute. What color? What color
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  do you think I should add to this?
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  >> This light like neony green would pop a
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  lot.
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  >> I agree with that. Let's do it.
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  >> Um I hope your audience is crafting
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  along with us. If they pick up a craft
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  >> if you're not Yeah, we I encourage that
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  heavily actually.
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  >> This is your crafting circle.
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  >> Yes.
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  >> Um I mean we're entertaining enough they
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  don't need to pick up anything.
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  >> No, actually sit silently and watch.
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  >> Sit silently and watch. If you're at
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  work, put the work down.
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  >> Pay Pay the [ __ ] attention.
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  >> Pay attention. How did you end up like
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  were you already working at Morning Brew
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  and then that you were like wait what if
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  I started going out and about?
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  >> Basically I I started at Morning Brew
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  doing uh Twitter.
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  >> Um I was doing I was hired to do tweets
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  and like still image Instagram posts um
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  in 2022. This is my first job out of
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  college um which was so sick. And then
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  after I started, I was like, "You guys,
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  I love what I'm doing now." Of course,
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  obviously, but um if there was room on
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  the video team, that would be really fun
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  to me. Um Dan Tumi was doing all of our
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  video at the time.
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  >> Yeah. Shout out Danum.
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  >> Shout out Dan Tumi. Still work with him.
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  He's the greatest.
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  >> Yes.
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  >> Um so then I started like helping Dan
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  with videos and then like slowly making
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  my own. Um, and then I did my own like
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  daily sketch videos about the news for
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  like 2 years.
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  >> And then
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  >> I've seen I've seen those as well. Like
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  uh big car then big
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  like I I genuinely
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  >> I think that was my all-time greatest
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  hit.
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  >> I get a lot of my I straight up I get a
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  good amount of like my news of I guess
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  like um I guess what's going on in
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  certain worlds.
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  >> It's like business news. It's it's more
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  of that vibe for sure. Okay, it's
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  business news, but also you guys seem to
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  be like not a fan of the of business,
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  which I like. Like you're like I don't
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  mean to slander Morning Brew if that's
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  if that's not the vibe they're going
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  for, but it does seem like they're like,
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  "What is private equity? Oh, it's bad."
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  >> Well, I prefer to prefer to not agree.
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  >> I think it's um I think private equity
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  is great. And I've always said that. Um,
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  okay.
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  >> No, KKR has divested its steak in
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  Morning Brew, so now I can slander them.
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  >> Oh, really?
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  >> I'm just kidding. They did have a steak
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  in Morning Brew, and they did get rid of
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  it. Um, but there was never, of course,
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  a rule that I couldn't critique them.
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  >> Oh, interesting. Okay.
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  >> Um, anyway, yeah, I do think that like
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  um
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  oftentimes when companies are in the
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  news, it's because they did something
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  wrong. So then I think our coverage can
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  seem really down on them, but it's like
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  what news am I going to do about a
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  company doing something right? Like
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  that's not news then. That's just like
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  what they're supposed to be doing and
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  that's right. Then it feels like an ad
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  for them.
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  >> Like
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  >> I don't know. There's not much to say
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  about when companies are doing the right
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  thing. So it is more often that they're
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  doing the wrong thing when um
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  >> interesting
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  >> when they're in the news.
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  >> Um I forget what the next step of my
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  dating pattern is, so I have to um I
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  have to go look at my little notes app.
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  People these days are always on their
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  [ __ ] goddamn phones. I earnestly
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  think that phones are great and have
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  made people learn a lot. And I think
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  that like phones I like people are like,
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  "Oh, kids are always on their phones too
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  much." I'm like, "Oh, you mean where all
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  of information is?
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  You mean like the the great library of
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  all human knowledge?"
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  >> I think that's a really great point. And
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  as someone who makes edutainment
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  content, I feel I cannot disagree. Um,
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  >> what's your favorite What's some of your
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  favorite edutainment?
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  >> Oh my god. Well, um, John and Hank
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  Green, of course.
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  >> Oh, yeah.
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  >> Um,
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  >> I've seen almost all of the Crash
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  Course,
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  >> right? Um, I feel like what they do and
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  what they stand for is so fun and I'm so
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  like nostalgic for like the era of the
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  internet when they were like really all
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  I watched. Um,
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  >> you ever heard of Professor Dave? We're
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  getting into him lately. Yeah,
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  >> I think I've seen some of his stuff. I
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  really like the architectural digest
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  videos, but not the house tours. God,
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  never the house tours.
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  >> I hate watching the house tours a little
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  bit because I'm like, "Fuck you.
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  >> I want that house.
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  That should be my house." Um, no. I only
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  like the ones that are like architect
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  explains. And the guy's name is Michael
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  Whitesner and he's my celebrity hall
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  pass. He is a 65year-old architect and
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  he is married
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  but he is my celebrity hall pass. Um,
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  I'm not in a relationship, but he is.
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  Anyway,
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  >> so you would have to be you would have
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  to be his hall pass as well, then.
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  >> Yeah, it's mutual. He doesn't know who I
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  am. um
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  he makes these great videos like
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  explaining all of the architectural
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  details of the Chrysler building or like
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  best bridges in New York City or one
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  time he made one that's about why it's
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  so impossible to have um elevators in
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  the sk in the highrises above um
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  like north of 42nd Street because of
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  Grand Central because elevators have to
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  have the elevator bank underneath the
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  ground that's like a full floor length
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  of bank where stuff for the elevator has
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  to go,
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  >> right? All the people
• 14:52
  >> uh all the people who push up the
• 14:54
  elevator. Exactly. They have to have
• 14:57
  somewhere to go
• 14:57
  >> with all the pulleys and stuff.
• 14:58
  >> Exactly. And so north of Grand Central,
• 15:02
  there's train tracks under the ground.
• 15:04
  There's so much train track under the
• 15:05
  ground. So there's no room for that. So
• 15:07
  all of the office buildings north of
• 15:09
  42nd have an escalator up to the first
• 15:12
  floor and then the elevators start on
• 15:13
  the second floor. So they all have these
• 15:14
  like weird lobbies.
• 15:15
  >> Interesting. And somehow he made that
• 15:17
  into a 20-minute video that I was
• 15:19
  enthralled by the entire time.
• 15:21
  >> That's awesome. Is it is it um is it
• 15:23
  funny? Because like your stuff Okay.
• 15:25
  Your stuff is going for uh infotainment
• 15:28
  in the sense of like there's uh comedy
• 15:30
  element. You're doing bits.
• 15:32
  >> I'm doing bits.
• 15:33
  >> You did a joke in one of them that I had
• 15:35
  also parallel thought written.
• 15:37
  >> Yeah.
• 15:38
  >> Uh in the blood one. You were like
• 15:40
  getting a infusion of blood before a
• 15:42
  sport.
• 15:43
  >> I was I was trying to do a bit about
• 15:44
  >> DIY. Um, uh, blood doping.
• 15:48
  >> Yes.
• 15:48
  >> Yeah. And I was like, if I could just
• 15:50
  set aside my own blood as like a person
• 15:53
  who's in a recreational kickball league,
• 15:55
  why would I not be allowed to do that?
• 15:57
  >> Yeah. Mine was more psycho. Mine was
• 15:59
  more like dur during like blood sports
• 16:01
  with like gladiators. Like I'm do I'm
• 16:03
  injecting myself with like a whole bunch
• 16:05
  of blood. But um but yes, simil similar
• 16:07
  idea though. Yes.
• 16:08
  >> Yeah.
• 16:10
  >> The knitting pattern. Can I see this?
• 16:12
  >> Yeah. Okay. It's like a secret code.
• 16:14
  Wait, you are now on row 60, color A, P
• 16:16
  side. Next row is row 61, Russian
• 16:19
  castoff, Kside, not too tight. Right
• 16:21
  panel is where you have to sew in the
• 16:22
  buttons. Okay, but is it cast off with
• 16:24
  color A or color B? That's what we don't
• 16:26
  know. And I guess that's just up to my
• 16:29
  choice of what I would like it to look
• 16:31
  like. So, I'm going to Oops. I'm going
• 16:33
  to cast off with color B.
• 16:35
  >> What do you think? Um, yeah,
• 16:36
  >> color B.
• 16:37
  >> Color B.
• 16:38
  >> Vote now on your phones.
• 16:39
  >> Vote now on your phones to see what
• 16:41
  color we're kicking off. Okay, this is
• 16:44
  >> also I have no idea what the [ __ ] you're
• 16:46
  talking about.
• 16:46
  >> Back panel. So
• 16:48
  >> back panel.
• 16:49
  >> So I have the back panel done. This is a
• 16:52
  cardigan. It's a really fun pattern.
• 16:54
  >> Can I show this to the camera?
• 16:55
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um it's like secret
• 16:59
  code where it's like K2P K2 tog. And
• 17:03
  that means like
• 17:04
  >> up, down, left, right.
• 17:05
  >> K2 tog is like knit two together.
• 17:08
  >> Slide to the left.
• 17:09
  >> Exactly.
• 17:11
  Um, so this is the sweater. This is the
• 17:13
  backa.
• 17:14
  >> It says chaa real smooth. This is the
• 17:16
  back panel. It's a vertical striped
• 17:18
  sweater, but you knit it going this way
• 17:22
  and then you turn it on its side.
• 17:23
  >> It does actually say, no, it literally
• 17:26
  says if you make any mistakes, you could
• 17:28
  just have frog.
• 17:30
  >> So frog is when you, you're going to
• 17:32
  love this. Frog is when you undo and you
• 17:35
  pull out the stitches that you made and
• 17:37
  you undo them. And it's called frogging.
• 17:39
  People say because you rip it. Rip it.
• 17:42
  Like you rip it. Rip it.
• 17:43
  >> Cuz you because you rip it because you
• 17:46
  >> you rip it. I can't do it right now.
• 17:48
  >> Cuz you like rip it rip it.
• 17:49
  >> Yeah.
• 17:50
  >> Oh, I see. Okay.
• 17:51
  >> So, if I were to like
• 17:52
  >> I thought it was like a double hop was
• 17:54
  the idea. Okay.
• 17:55
  >> No, it's like if I like pull these out.
• 17:57
  >> Yeah. You [ __ ] up there. Yeah. Okay.
• 17:58
  Oh, I see.
• 17:59
  >> [ __ ] up there. I was just kind of
• 18:00
  showing you.
• 18:00
  >> No, she [ __ ] up though.
• 18:01
  >> No, it was really perfect. I'm really
• 18:04
  good at
• 18:06
  >> the I do want to come to the return to
• 18:08
  this idea of um infotainment.
• 18:11
  >> Yeah.
• 18:11
  >> Uh on account of you making it also I'm
• 18:13
  going to try to get this a little closer
• 18:14
  to you for move it to you maybe. Um
• 18:18
  >> the idea of
• 18:20
  >> um well is that Architectural Digest
• 18:22
  Sideshow one. Is that funny or do you
• 18:24
  like when stuff is funny or do you like
• 18:26
  watching like
• 18:26
  >> I like when stuff is funny but like I
• 18:28
  don't need it to be funny. Like I'm okay
• 18:30
  if it's not. Um,
• 18:32
  >> I'm okay if it's not even entertain uh
• 18:34
  educational if it's funny.
• 18:36
  >> Um, I'm Yeah, I don't need it
• 18:40
  I don't need it to be funny. A lot of
• 18:42
  the stuff I watch I feel like is is
• 18:44
  super not entertaining. Like it is just
• 18:47
  >> educational in a way that like I can
• 18:49
  just lock in on that and also like
• 18:51
  >> I'm knitting so
• 18:53
  >> I'm also entertained by that.
• 18:55
  >> Um,
• 18:55
  >> you ever watch Sean?
• 18:57
  S H A N. It's like 4 hour video essays.
• 19:00
  He's like, he's really good. That's
• 19:02
  awesome.
• 19:02
  >> But it's not comedy. It's just pure lock
• 19:06
  in. Here's the details.
• 19:07
  >> That rocks. No, I got to look this up.
• 19:09
  >> He's He's got like, you know, the You
• 19:10
  ever heard of that book, The Bell Curve?
• 19:11
  And it's like that Yeah.
• 19:12
  >> um racist uh IQ stuff.
• 19:15
  >> Totally.
• 19:15
  >> It's like just a 4hour like here's why
• 19:17
  it's wrong. Boom boom boom boom boom
• 19:19
  boom.
• 19:19
  >> Fantastic.
• 19:20
  >> Yeah.
• 19:20
  >> Um that's really fun. So I would say no.
• 19:22
  The stuff that I watch is not always
• 19:26
  funny. I'm going to let him in.
• 19:27
  >> Okay. Yay. Honey's coming in.
• 19:32
  Hi, honey. Come on.
• 19:34
  >> Hi, honey.
• 19:36
  >> Is Honey gonna love this yarn?
• 19:38
  >> Uh, honey a big crafts guy,
• 19:41
  >> actually. No, no, no.
• 19:44
  >> Um,
• 19:46
  >> money. I kind of I kind of moved him in
• 19:48
  a weird way. You were saying
• 19:51
  >> um I would say the stuff that I watch is
• 19:53
  not always funny. I try to make my stuff
• 19:56
  funny just because it's more fun to make
• 19:59
  that way and like realistically I cannot
• 20:01
  comport myself
• 20:03
  >> seriously anyway. I can let him back out
• 20:06
  if you want me to.
• 20:07
  >> If if he if he wants it. Yeah.
• 20:08
  >> Okay. Um
• 20:09
  >> you do not comport yourself seriously.
• 20:11
  >> I cannot comport myself seriously, nor
• 20:13
  do I want to learn how.
• 20:14
  >> But in Yeah. In the in the airline
• 20:15
  video, you actually had to have a
• 20:17
  disclaimer where you're like, "They take
• 20:18
  this seriously."
• 20:20
  >> Yeah. I added that in.
• 20:21
  >> Oh, he figured it out.
• 20:22
  >> I added that in. They didn't ask me to
• 20:24
  add it. Well, they were a little
• 20:26
  concerned on the day when I was [ __ ]
• 20:27
  around and it was like really early in
• 20:29
  the day. I like picked up a glass by
• 20:32
  like the rim of the glass
• 20:33
  >> and the like comm's team cuz there's 20
• 20:36
  people following us around from the like
• 20:37
  United Corporate Comm's team and I'm
• 20:39
  like chill.
• 20:40
  >> Um it was the most amount of people I've
• 20:42
  ever had on a set with us and
• 20:45
  >> Is it sponsored too? Is that like
• 20:46
  >> No, it's not sponsored. So I retain all
• 20:50
  editorial control.
• 20:51
  >> Oh [ __ ] So, like they just give us
• 20:52
  access and like hope that they come off
• 20:55
  looking well, but like um sometimes they
• 20:58
  don't and like
• 20:59
  >> I we don't let them pay for anything.
• 21:02
  >> So,
• 21:03
  >> just keep
• 21:04
  >> No, you're okay. Um
• 21:08
  >> um we don't let them pay for anything
• 21:10
  and we Yeah. then like retain all
• 21:14
  control of the story and they don't they
• 21:15
  don't get to like have a say in
• 21:17
  >> Oh, nice. Okay.
• 21:18
  >> how it comes out which is nice. They
• 21:20
  just give us access and that's
• 21:21
  >> Was that also true?
• 21:23
  >> Is that true for the stories in general?
• 21:24
  Like you just did that. Um
• 21:25
  >> yeah, the stories one.
• 21:27
  >> Yeah. If it's it's very obvious when
• 21:30
  they're sponsored because it like has to
• 21:31
  be by law and also like I always want it
• 21:33
  to be very obvious. I've also started
• 21:35
  adding a section to my uh video
• 21:39
  descriptions that I should make even
• 21:41
  more prominent that's like did you ever
• 21:43
  wonder who pays me what for these? Like
• 21:45
  here's what. And it basically explains
• 21:47
  this, which is like United gave us
• 21:48
  access to their space and then had no
• 21:50
  control over the video. Um, they did
• 21:52
  send me home with that very spiffy
• 21:54
  jacket that I was wearing, but that was
• 21:57
  the only bribe I accepted and that is
• 21:59
  not enough to buy me out. Um,
• 22:03
  >> that's good. No, I like that it's not uh
• 22:04
  sponsored.
• 22:05
  >> Yeah, that's the thing is Morning Brew
• 22:06
  just like Morning Brew wants to make
• 22:08
  interesting content, so they pay for me
• 22:10
  to do that. And sometimes my videos are
• 22:12
  very access dependent. So I do always
• 22:14
  need access from someone. Like sometimes
• 22:16
  it's access from the hot dog guy and I'm
• 22:18
  like working in his hot dog cart.
• 22:20
  >> Are you sending all these emails? Sorry.
• 22:21
  I mean
• 22:21
  >> I am sending all these emails. I
• 22:23
  actually um sent one really recently
• 22:26
  that was really it's it's my all-time
• 22:28
  greatest email. Um but it's for a video
• 22:31
  that comes out at the end of January. So
• 22:32
  it will it will remain a secret, but I
• 22:34
  will post about it a lot once the email
• 22:37
  is um publicly available information
• 22:39
  when the video is out. is my
• 22:41
  >> what is your what is your organiz
• 22:43
  because you are okay
• 22:45
  you you make me think I'm like am I not
• 22:47
  using for my hours in the day because
• 22:49
  I'm like like you'll put out a video and
• 22:52
  then you'll be shearing a sheep
• 22:55
  >> right
• 22:56
  >> the next like I I like uh what is your
• 22:58
  or how are you organized what are you
• 23:00
  doing
• 23:01
  >> um I live and die by the by the Google
• 23:03
  calendar um yeah I live and die by my
• 23:06
  Google calendar like I need it I
• 23:07
  schedule everything on it if if it's if
• 23:10
  something I'm supposed to do in the day
• 23:11
  is not on that, it won't get done. I'll
• 23:13
  just forget
• 23:13
  >> really.
• 23:14
  >> But if it's written on there, then I'll
• 23:15
  remember to do it and I will like block
• 23:16
  off time to do it. Like that's
• 23:18
  >> why it's in the calendar.
• 23:20
  >> Um, in general though, I would say I
• 23:22
  don't know. All I do is stuff all day
• 23:24
  long. Like I leave my house at like 7:30
• 23:26
  and I get home at like 11:00 most nights
• 23:28
  and then it's like that's my life every
• 23:30
  day of the week and then the weekends
• 23:31
  even more stuff.
• 23:32
  >> And you've structured this way because
• 23:33
  that's you like that.
• 23:34
  >> I do like that. I like find a lot of
• 23:37
  energy in that sometimes. And then like
• 23:39
  it's this until I crash and then I like
• 23:42
  go through like I'll have like most of
• 23:44
  the time it's like I will get sick
• 23:46
  because like that's not enough sleep to
• 23:47
  get
• 23:48
  >> and so it's like once a quarter I have a
• 23:50
  cold and I like rest for a week and then
• 23:51
  I'm back
• 23:53
  >> and that's I think a healthy lifestyle.
• 23:55
  >> You like r you like ran the marathon.
• 23:57
  >> Oh I ran marathon last year and I
• 23:59
  >> and Okay. It's I think I watch I don't
• 24:01
  know if I watched these back toback but
• 24:02
  I was like the um it was like I'm I'm
• 24:06
  donating my plasma now. running a
• 24:08
  marathon and I'm like no
• 24:10
  >> marathon was first marathon was first
• 24:12
  >> you also didn't end up donating your
• 24:13
  plasma is that right
• 24:14
  >> no I tried to donate my plasma because I
• 24:16
  wanted to expose these evil companies um
• 24:18
  and show
• 24:20
  >> I like to use my body as an experiment
• 24:23
  >> um and so I like to do these things for
• 24:26
  myself I think that like my philosophy
• 24:28
  with my videos is like there are so many
• 24:30
  interesting stories in the world and the
• 24:32
  most interesting way that I have found
• 24:33
  to tell them and most fun way for me to
• 24:35
  make it is number one. I do the thing
• 24:40
  myself to show you like the first day on
• 24:44
  the job. You know when people are always
• 24:46
  like I wish there was one regular person
• 24:48
  in the Olympics
• 24:50
  >> to like gauge cuz you know the runners
• 24:52
  are fast but you're like how I wonder
• 24:54
  how I would be next to them. I'm that
• 24:57
  right
• 24:57
  >> when I'm like in the agave fields and I
• 25:00
  like start harvesting this plant and I
• 25:01
  go Jesus Christ like it's over.
• 25:03
  >> That's not even a metaphor. for the
• 25:04
  running one. You literally are
• 25:07
  >> in the middle. Yeah, that was that was a
• 25:08
  direct one. Um, so I think it's fun for
• 25:12
  you to get that perspective of like how
• 25:13
  would you fair how would the average
• 25:15
  person fair first day at that job? And
• 25:17
  then I'm also interviewing the person
• 25:19
  who's been on that job for 30 years and
• 25:21
  this is like the thing that they
• 25:22
  specialize and like spend their life
• 25:23
  doing. So that's my that's my like video
• 25:26
  formula because it's fun for me to make
• 25:28
  and I think it's like two very important
• 25:30
  perspectives for my audience to walk
• 25:32
  away with.
• 25:33
  >> No, it's a great formula. Um, and it's
• 25:35
  Yeah, really it's just because it's the
• 25:36
  most fun for me to make.
• 25:38
  >> I'm gonna I I literally was like, uh, if
• 25:41
  Connor doesn't work out, I will go to
• 25:43
  that plumbing school,
• 25:44
  >> right? No, the plumbing school was so
• 25:45
  fun.
• 25:46
  >> Dude, awesome.
• 25:46
  >> Um, I was filming a video in Bosnia
• 25:49
  recently. That's the one that's coming
• 25:50
  out at the end of January that I sent
• 25:52
  the greatest email ever for. Um, and the
• 25:55
  guy who I was filming with in Bosnia,
• 25:57
  >> I should have I should have asked. Good
• 25:59
  follow. Good.
• 26:01
  >> I can't I can't say what the video is
• 26:03
  yet. being a secret, but
• 26:05
  >> um the guy who I was interviewing and
• 26:08
  like meeting in Bosnia,
• 26:11
  >> he is a huge fan of the Morning Brew
• 26:13
  YouTube channel, he's like this guy from
• 26:15
  Saraho and he's been subscribed to the
• 26:17
  channel for years where he's like a deep
• 26:19
  fan where he was asking me, he was like
• 26:21
  the guy at the plumbing school, he goes,
• 26:23
  "Was he really that mean to you or did
• 26:25
  you like ask him to do that for the
• 26:27
  camera?" And I was like, "Oh my god,
• 26:28
  you're like really watching."
• 26:30
  Holy [ __ ] Um, so that was a funny one.
• 26:34
  >> I brushed up. I I also I I am really
• 26:36
  watching, but I also did brush up ahead
• 26:38
  of time.
• 26:39
  >> I mean, I do a lot.
• 26:40
  >> I'm like I'm like the Hot Ones guy.
• 26:41
  >> The other thing though is that it's like
• 26:43
  my day job is doing that, you know? It's
• 26:47
  like I get to spend 40 hours a week
• 26:50
  thinking through like what would be a
• 26:52
  funny bit to do while I'm selling hot
• 26:54
  dogs or like
• 26:56
  >> my hosting inspiration is always a mix
• 27:00
  between like Conan O'Brien and Cleo
• 27:03
  Abram that does like Huge If True.
• 27:05
  That's like a really sciency
• 27:07
  >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um
• 27:10
  >> it's like Optimistic Tech Stories or
• 27:12
  whatever.
• 27:13
  >> Yes. um
• 27:14
  >> she was like with BuzzFeed or something
• 27:15
  or one of one of those companies.
• 27:17
  >> Um but yeah, she'll go to like CERN or
• 27:19
  something in Switzerland and then talk
• 27:21
  about like what the hell they're doing
• 27:22
  there.
• 27:23
  >> And then like the Conan remotes,
• 27:26
  >> right?
• 27:26
  >> That's like I'm trying to be somewhere
• 27:27
  between those at all times.
• 27:29
  >> I could see that. That's that makes a
• 27:31
  lot of sense.
• 27:31
  >> And it was like watching the Conan
• 27:33
  remotes that I realized I was like, "Oh,
• 27:35
  he's not just doing improv." because
• 27:38
  like he did one where he like went and
• 27:40
  was like a UPS driver and he brought
• 27:43
  like a like a magnetic flame thing to
• 27:45
  put on the side of the UPS truck and
• 27:47
  that was
• 27:48
  >> you have to think about that ahead of
• 27:49
  time,
• 27:49
  >> right? And so that was the first time I
• 27:50
  realized I was like, "Oh my god, some of
• 27:53
  this of course is like improv and me
• 27:54
  being in the moment and like trying to
• 27:55
  be funny, but I'm like I should be
• 27:57
  pre-planning bits also." Um, and so now
• 28:01
  it just gets even more fun that like
• 28:02
  part of my job before any shoot is I'm
• 28:04
  like, is there a bit I should do on this
• 28:06
  and like should I order like props?
• 28:08
  >> Right. Are you at the habachi at the hot
• 28:10
  dog?
• 28:10
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did my hot dog.
• 28:13
  Michelin star hot dog.
• 28:14
  >> I like that.
• 28:15
  >> Um, yeah. So stuff like that that I'm
• 28:18
  like, "Oh yeah, I can just like think of
• 28:20
  things like that that would be funny."
• 28:22
  >> That's cool.
• 28:23
  >> It's so fun.
• 28:24
  >> And uh did I say this before the camera
• 28:26
  started rolling? You don't you're not
• 28:28
  doing standup. I'm not doing standup.
• 28:30
  I'm like sometimes I'll be on like
• 28:31
  friend shows. Well, I do a lot of like
• 28:34
  PowerPoint comedy. I'm big at Caveat.
• 28:36
  >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:37
  >> I love
• 28:38
  >> Great venue. Yeah,
• 28:39
  >> it's a really great venue.
• 28:40
  >> I missed the popcorn.
• 28:41
  >> Yeah, the popcorn. So good.
• 28:43
  >> Well, they have the they get rid of the
• 28:45
  >> It's back, I think,
• 28:46
  >> with all like the the hund
• 28:49
  still. Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:50
  >> Oh, [ __ ]
• 28:51
  >> I think it's back. That's where I did my
• 28:52
  magic show.
• 28:54
  >> Damn. Well, how recently was that?
• 28:56
  >> Magic show was in June. Oh, okay. Never
• 28:59
  mind. I thought they got rid of the
• 29:00
  popcorn thing.
• 29:01
  >> No, no, no. Maybe they got rid of it for
• 29:02
  a while, but it's back. At least the
• 29:04
  seasoning bar is there. I can't imagine
• 29:05
  they have seasonings and no popcorn.
• 29:07
  >> Yeah.
• 29:07
  >> Um, maybe they do. Um, yeah. I love
• 29:10
  caveat, but like at this point, I just
• 29:12
  do like that kind of like PowerPoint
• 29:14
  show, but like I don't love
• 29:16
  >> Good color choice, by the way. It's
• 29:17
  blending with the purple in like a way
• 29:19
  I'm enjoying the way I Yours is Okay.
• 29:22
  >> Oh, we'll come back to the PowerPoint
• 29:23
  show in a second, but yours is very
• 29:25
  clearly like a structured idea.
• 29:28
  this. Yeah.
• 29:29
  >> Like it's like there's a pattern you're
• 29:31
  following. There's a
• 29:32
  >> So this is Yeah, this is a cardigan and
• 29:34
  so you knit it in pieces and then you
• 29:36
  connect the pieces together. So the
• 29:37
  piece in my bag is the back piece and
• 29:39
  then look, this is the front. So the
• 29:41
  tall part there is the collar and then
• 29:42
  like that's my my shoulder sleeve.
• 29:45
  >> Okay.
• 29:45
  >> Yeah.
• 29:46
  >> Cool.
• 29:47
  >> Yeah.
• 29:48
  >> Oh, that's neat.
• 29:49
  >> That's the fun thing about patterns is
• 29:50
  you go, "Wow, look. Now it's a now it's
• 29:52
  an item. Now it's a shape that it's
• 29:53
  supposed to be."
• 29:54
  >> Did you make the hat? No,
• 29:54
  >> I didn't make the hat. the hat I bought
• 29:56
  in Bosnia from um this store I found
• 30:00
  that is
• 30:02
  a women's NGO in Bosnia where she
• 30:05
  teaches rural Bosnian women like more
• 30:07
  modern knitting patterns because all of
• 30:09
  them know how to knit but they knit
• 30:11
  these like super traditional things that
• 30:13
  like I love but there's not as much of a
• 30:15
  market for
• 30:16
  >> that are like these super thick socks
• 30:17
  that are almost more like like boots
• 30:19
  like slippers like they're very thick
• 30:21
  socks like structured
• 30:23
  >> um and that's like most of what they
• 30:24
  knit. and that's awesome, but there's
• 30:26
  not a huge market for it. So, this woman
• 30:27
  started an NGO because she was like
• 30:29
  wanting to empower these like rural
• 30:30
  women. Um, and so she just taught them
• 30:33
  like more modern knitting patterns and
• 30:34
  like more modern yarn like this one
• 30:37
  that's like just like softer. Um, and
• 30:40
  yeah, that's where my hat is from.
• 30:42
  >> It's nice. Looks good.
• 30:43
  >> Shout out Woolly Rouge in Sarah Yeevo.
• 30:45
  If you're ever over there,
• 30:48
  you know where to go. I uh I guess like
• 30:51
  the difference with embroidery is it's
• 30:53
  like I'm just sort of guessing the idea
• 30:55
  of a butterfly.
• 30:56
  >> Yeah. Well, have you ever done like
• 30:58
  cross stitch or like an embroidery?
• 31:00
  >> No. I think it would piss me off to
• 31:01
  follow a pattern. I don't have that kind
• 31:03
  of mind.
• 31:03
  >> Nightmare. Crossstitch is like the one
• 31:05
  fiber art that I do not love. I do
• 31:08
  unfortunately love the look of it
• 31:09
  though. And so I have suffered through a
• 31:12
  couple patterns like I repurposed this
• 31:14
  like super old traditional like bunny
• 31:17
  pattern that's like a little bunny
• 31:19
  rabbit that's kind of like praying at
• 31:21
  like a flower
• 31:23
  >> super quaint like it would be on your
• 31:25
  grandma's wall and then I made it say
• 31:27
  all hail the algorithm
• 31:30
  >> and like that makes me laugh. I like
• 31:32
  doing like really quaint fiber arts
• 31:34
  mixed with like a funny modern thing.
• 31:37
  I find I find algorithm jokes really
• 31:39
  funny. I've been trying
• 31:40
  >> because it's like it's that is my god. I
• 31:43
  think
• 31:43
  >> it's all of our lives. It's like so
• 31:45
  heavily like I mean this is in an
• 31:47
  algorithm. This is algorithmic. I know
• 31:49
  you you're I know you're from the
• 31:51
  algorithm.
• 31:52
  >> Yeah. It introduced us.
• 31:53
  >> That's Wow. People talk about the
• 31:55
  algorithm like quite negatively.
• 31:56
  >> I know. And it's like
• 31:57
  >> it's like my best friend that shows me
• 31:59
  everything in my life.
• 32:02
  >> It's like dude check out this monkey.
• 32:05
  You ever notice that the my impression
• 32:07
  of the algorithm? It's like, dude, look
• 32:08
  at this monkey.
• 32:09
  >> Look at this [ __ ] monkey. You're
• 32:11
  gonna love this.
• 32:11
  >> Look at how Look at how this gibbon has
• 32:13
  his damn hands. I'm g try to match your
• 32:14
  mic distance.
• 32:15
  >> Okay,
• 32:15
  >> just so I can Okay,
• 32:17
  >> sorry to [ __ ] with any
• 32:19
  >> Yeah, I'm ruining this in post for you.
• 32:21
  >> Um, yep.
• 32:22
  >> I'm going to make you do a full sound
• 32:24
  mix.
• 32:27
  >> No, the algorithm rocks. I mean, you
• 32:29
  have to teach it. And then also, it
• 32:31
  doesn't rock at all. I did recently get
• 32:33
  a radio and I've been really enjoying
• 32:36
  having a radio.
• 32:36
  >> Oh, it's like the algorithm is like some
• 32:38
  guy named Dave's personal opinions.
• 32:41
  >> Yeah,
• 32:42
  >> that's great.
• 32:43
  >> Um, no, exactly. That I'm like cuz then
• 32:46
  people go, "Oh, where'd you learn that
• 32:47
  song?" And I'll go
• 32:48
  >> the radio.
• 32:49
  >> Radio. That's awesome.
• 32:50
  >> Um, and that's the radio is like
• 32:52
  marketing now. I don't know how much
• 32:53
  you've listened to it lately, but
• 32:54
  they're like, "Real music chosen by real
• 32:56
  people." I'm like, "Oh, yeah.
• 32:59
  >> Interesting. That's literally like part
• 33:00
  of the brand." Oh, wow. That's like part
• 33:01
  of the branding now. Um
• 33:03
  >> I could see you doing a video Macy's
• 33:06
  radio station.
• 33:07
  >> Oh my god, I should do a radio station.
• 33:09
  Everybody I was going to say everybody
• 33:10
  has a podcast these days.
• 33:13
  >> They do.
• 33:14
  >> Oh no, no, no. The thing with the thing
• 33:16
  with this one is that I uh uh it's very
• 33:19
  low stakes and not important to me. This
• 33:21
  is kind of my like a not a main project.
• 33:23
  Right. Yeah. The com.
• 33:26
  Yeah. Yeah,
• 33:26
  >> that makes sense. And I love your
• 33:28
  standup. I don't know. I don't know that
• 33:30
  I've ever I don't think I've ever seen
• 33:32
  it live.
• 33:33
  >> No, that's all right. No, here's a hot
• 33:35
  take that I think comedians would care
• 33:38
  about more. So, we don't have to go into
• 33:39
  it too deep, but I do think that standup
• 33:42
  is a video medium.
• 33:43
  >> That's a really good point.
• 33:44
  >> Kind of always has, not always has been,
• 33:46
  but um
• 33:48
  >> I'll I'll give you the extremely brief
• 33:50
  overview is just that um
• 33:53
  >> prior to recording uh everybody just did
• 33:56
  the same jokes and like vaudeville it
• 33:58
  was like street jokes.
• 33:59
  >> Yeah. um everybody would just had these
• 34:02
  stock oneliners or
• 34:03
  >> whatever.
• 34:03
  >> Then with the invention of like records
• 34:07
  and album or like audio recording.
• 34:09
  >> Yeah.
• 34:09
  >> That's when joke credit started to
• 34:11
  matter,
• 34:12
  >> right?
• 34:12
  >> And so that's so then and that's how you
• 34:15
  could get an audience to begin with is
• 34:18
  >> somebody outside of this room is able to
• 34:19
  hear this because it's on a a physical
• 34:21
  object.
• 34:22
  >> Um and that's transitions to video. I've
• 34:24
  never seen Richard Prior live,
• 34:26
  >> right?
• 34:26
  >> You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, he he
• 34:28
  exists to me fully in the computer, you
• 34:30
  know.
• 34:32
  >> That's it. That's all right. Great. Frog
• 34:34
  it. What does that mean?
• 34:35
  >> I'm going to frog it. I'm going to undo
• 34:36
  it. Look, I decided. So, this is like
• 34:39
  the edge of the cardigan.
• 34:40
  >> I like your Subway, too, too, by the
• 34:42
  way. Okay. Good thing about hot takes.
• 34:43
  Okay.
• 34:44
  >> Um, this is the edge of the cardigan,
• 34:46
  and so it'll be like very visible. Like,
• 34:48
  it'll be where the two pieces meet. And
• 34:50
  I continued the stripe going from red to
• 34:53
  white, but I don't like you can see a
• 34:54
  lot of the red through the white. So,
• 34:56
  I'd rather I'm just going to do it solid
• 34:57
  red. So, I have to undo this. But this
• 34:59
  is how you undo it. Is you It's like a
• 35:02
  very dangerous game.
• 35:03
  >> Wait, why is it dangerous to undo it?
• 35:04
  >> Because if these slip off, I'm [ __ ]
• 35:08
  These slip off.
• 35:09
  >> Wait, really? What do you mean?
• 35:10
  >> Um, it can like all start to unravel.
• 35:12
  So, really?
• 35:13
  >> Oh, like the whole the whole [ __ ]
• 35:14
  thing can unravel.
• 35:15
  >> The whole thing can start.
• 35:17
  >> Do not curse. You're not a cursor.
• 35:26
  I am fine and everything is okay.
• 35:28
  >> Is it unraveling
• 35:30
  >> a little bit?
• 35:30
  >> Oh, no. I'll let you I'll let you f I'll
• 35:32
  let you focus.
• 35:34
  >> In fact, portion of the pod.
• 35:36
  >> Wait, hold on.
• 35:38
  >> This is the
• 35:39
  >> Can I move your mug out of the way?
• 35:40
  >> Oh, yeah. Yes. Get
• 35:43
  >> Let's get a Let's get a closeup.
• 35:44
  >> Get a closeup of of my nightmare. Do you
• 35:47
  have anything that's hookshaped?
• 35:50
  Is that a good shot?
• 35:53
  >> This is really good.
• 35:57
  >> Um,
• 35:57
  >> what kind of hook you talking about?
• 35:58
  What do you mean?
• 35:59
  >> I got a little hook.
• 36:00
  >> It's like, so knitting is just loops.
• 36:03
  And right now, my loops are coming out
• 36:04
  of my other loops. And so I'm going to
• 36:06
  go grab them back.
• 36:10
  I got to go pick them back up.
• 36:11
  >> First time I've tried to do a zoom like
• 36:13
  that. That's psycho and not working.
• 36:16
  >> Um,
• 36:16
  >> we'll see.
• 36:18
  Okay, we're in surgery mode.
• 36:21
  >> I got really excited
• 36:23
  and I shouldn't have done it that way,
• 36:26
  but I'm going to recover. I can recover
• 36:27
  from anything because I know how to knit
• 36:31
  and I need to believe in myself.
• 36:33
  >> Oh [ __ ] I think I just knocked the
• 36:34
  needle.
• 36:36
  >> Um,
• 36:36
  >> I knocked the needle on the floor. I'm
• 36:37
  gonna do a quick needle surge.
• 36:38
  >> Do a quick needle search. Um, it's the
• 36:41
  it's the fall apart portion of the show.
• 36:44
  Oh. Oh. Oh, I almost rescued it. This
• 36:46
  actually happened um the last pod too.
• 36:48
  Me and Jay Jordan both made bead
• 36:50
  bracelets and they both explode.
• 36:54
  >> That's perfect.
• 36:56
  >> Oh, I found it.
• 37:01
  >> God. Okay. I'm I'm I'm salvaging this.
• 37:04
  >> You got it?
• 37:05
  >> Yeah.
• 37:05
  >> Nice.
• 37:06
  >> I'm picking up those stitches.
• 37:13
  >> Thank you. Thank you. Am I preemptively
• 37:15
  clapping?
• 37:16
  >> Um, no. I got I got the big section that
• 37:18
  had fallen off already. And then now I'm
• 37:20
  going to do the section without letting
• 37:21
  them fall off. So now I'm very carefully
• 37:23
  going to pull one at a time and then
• 37:28
  pick it up before I pull anymore, which
• 37:30
  is much more manageable.
• 37:32
  >> Okay, I'll reset.
• 37:41
  knitting like mostly goes really well
• 37:43
  and you can kind of just fly through it
• 37:44
  and then sometimes you do stuff and you
• 37:46
  go, "Oh, no."
• 37:48
  I also do easy knitting patterns only.
• 37:50
  You can make lots of cool stuff that's
• 37:52
  like technically easy to make. Just
• 37:55
  takes time. M
• 37:56
  >> I'm not interested in making any
• 37:59
  intricate stuff right now cuz I like
• 38:02
  that it's a very like passive thing that
• 38:04
  I don't have to like
• 38:07
  pay much attention to while I make it.
• 38:09
  >> No, that makes sense. I made a um I made
• 38:12
  this hummingbird not too long ago with
• 38:13
  the embroidery.
• 38:14
  >> Oh, and thank you very much. And I am
• 38:17
  like it like went so well that I'm like
• 38:21
  terrified to ever do another one. Right.
• 38:23
  >> Because I'm like I'm never gonna I feel
• 38:24
  like I I feel like I had some sort of
• 38:26
  sauce in my mind that night that I will
• 38:28
  never get back.
• 38:29
  >> And so now I've been like
• 38:31
  >> embroidery peak. You feel?
• 38:33
  >> Yeah. Because then I made the butterfly
• 38:34
  after and I think it's just not as good.
• 38:36
  >> Uh so I don't know. There's something
• 38:38
  about um
• 38:39
  >> I don't know the intric intricate
• 38:41
  patterns are
• 38:42
  >> it's hard. It's like it's like a if you
• 38:45
  I don't know get into the eye of a
• 38:47
  needle type idea.
• 38:49
  >> Um
• 38:50
  >> what is this wire?
• 38:51
  >> The wire I'll show you. The wire is that
• 38:54
  my knitting needles are attached. So
• 38:55
  it's just two knitting needles that are
• 38:57
  attached by the wire because this
• 39:00
  pattern is a very special crazy kind of
• 39:02
  pattern where
• 39:04
  Okay, I fully saved it. It's a crazy
• 39:07
  kind of pattern where I have two colors
• 39:09
  that are attached at all times. Normally
• 39:10
  with stripes, you have to like cut the
• 39:12
  yarn at the end of each row and do it
• 39:14
  again.
• 39:15
  >> But this one, I like knit down to one
• 39:17
  side and so I'll like bring the red
• 39:19
  color all the way over here and then my
• 39:21
  white colors all the way over there. So
• 39:22
  then I like slide it back to the other
• 39:24
  end
• 39:25
  >> and start using the white again from
• 39:26
  that side.
• 39:27
  >> That's not usually how it's done.
• 39:28
  >> That's not usually how it's done. You
• 39:29
  usually use one color or if you're using
• 39:31
  stripes, you have to like cut it a bunch
• 39:33
  of times.
• 39:33
  >> You're kind of dual wheel. You're kind
• 39:34
  of
• 39:35
  >> Yeah.
• 39:36
  >> doing I think I had a piece of green
• 39:38
  string that I just lost. Oh, no.
• 39:40
  >> But I was Do you see a green string?
• 39:42
  >> I see no green. Well, is it this green
• 39:44
  string?
• 39:45
  >> No.
• 39:45
  >> No, it's the same color. Wait,
• 39:47
  >> no. It's It was one of these.
• 39:49
  >> H.
• 39:51
  This is a mystery.
• 39:54
  >> Oh my god. Speaking of mysteries,
• 39:57
  >> that's the thing about doing arts and
• 39:58
  crafts pot is like then the crafts like
• 40:01
  I'll have like an interesting person.
• 40:02
  Yeah. Then
• 40:04
  like I'll have like have Jerry Seinfeld
• 40:07
  on. I'm like, "Shut the [ __ ] up. Shut
• 40:08
  the [ __ ] up.
• 40:10
  I think he really likes arts and crafts.
• 40:12
  >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:13
  >> I think his girlfriend taught him how to
• 40:14
  do it.
• 40:15
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They taught him uh
• 40:17
  macaroni art.
• 40:18
  >> Macaroni art.
• 40:20
  >> Um that Okay, so now I I just undid the
• 40:24
  thing I did for like the last 15
• 40:25
  minutes. But it's okay because it's
• 40:26
  going to be worth it.
• 40:27
  >> I got to find this other damn green
• 40:29
  string.
• 40:29
  >> Find this freaking green string.
• 40:32
  >> Um this history for Benois Blanc. Right
• 40:35
  before right before you frogged it, I
• 40:36
  had a question for you that the
• 40:38
  listeners are
• 40:40
  >> into here. You said something about my
• 40:42
  Subway take.
• 40:42
  >> Oh, that too.
• 40:43
  >> You didn't touch on.
• 40:44
  >> Oh, we were kind of going down the
• 40:45
  direction of like algorithm in general.
• 40:47
  >> Um,
• 40:48
  >> and talk about algorithm.
• 40:49
  >> Yeah,
• 40:49
  >> the algorithm
• 40:50
  >> that ended up on a crazy side of the
• 40:52
  algorithm of people who like
• 40:54
  intentionally were misunderstanding me
• 40:56
  and in very bad faith. Also, my subway
• 40:59
  take for those unfamiliar.
• 41:01
  >> Kill all dogs you see on site. kill all
• 41:03
  dogs you see on site and everybody's
• 41:05
  acting like I'm the devil.
• 41:07
  Um
• 41:10
  my subway take was every transplant
• 41:12
  should have to volunteer somewhere.
• 41:13
  >> Yes.
• 41:14
  >> And then um the alt-right on Twitter
• 41:17
  found it and was like so you meant
• 41:19
  immigrants and I was like well so no
• 41:23
  that's why I didn't
• 41:24
  >> that's why I said trans
• 41:25
  >> say immigrants. That's why I said
• 41:26
  transplant which like inherently means
• 41:28
  like someone of means and like with free
• 41:31
  time and like probably not maybe very
• 41:33
  involved in their community. Um
• 41:36
  >> also what is the alt-rights point there?
• 41:38
  It's like immigrants shouldn't have to
• 41:40
  do local volunteer lab like what was the
• 41:42
  alt-rights point?
• 41:43
  >> Well they were like so you agree with us
• 41:46
  >> that they have to work to prove that
• 41:47
  they deserve to be here and I was like I
• 41:49
  don't think that you think that's what I
• 41:50
  meant. I think that you know that that's
• 41:52
  different. Um, the other thing is
• 41:54
  they're like, "Oh, yeah. Replace the
• 41:57
  word transplant with the word
• 41:58
  immigrant." And it's like, "Well, that's
• 41:59
  why we don't replace words with
• 42:03
  replace the word transplants with sick
• 42:05
  puppies." Not so funny now, is it?
• 42:07
  >> Wait, that is [ __ ] up. Do you want
• 42:09
  sick puppies to do labor?
• 42:11
  >> I do, actually. Well, and then lots of
• 42:13
  people in the comments truly just like,
• 42:15
  and God bless them, were like, "People
• 42:17
  who have gotten organ transplants have
• 42:19
  gone through enough. They should not
• 42:21
  have to volunteer." And I'm like, "So
• 42:23
  that's not They I think genuinely
• 42:25
  misunderstood me, which was awesome that
• 42:27
  they thought transplants meant um
• 42:30
  >> organ."
• 42:32
  >> People do misunderstand everything.
• 42:33
  >> Yeah. That's the thing about the
• 42:34
  internet is it's like it's almost better
• 42:37
  because it's like that's fine. That's
• 42:39
  just part of it.
• 42:40
  >> Yeah.
• 42:40
  >> Like you just have to drop it. We uh
• 42:42
  actually last podcast I had Jay Jordan
• 42:44
  on with the clip was about like how a
• 42:48
  guy making like a watermelon joke was
• 42:50
  similar to like uh 1960s like Jim Crow
• 42:53
  era iconography
• 42:55
  >> and a lot of the comments were like
• 42:56
  there's nothing like Jim Crow laws
• 42:58
  >> and and we were like yeah that's why we
• 43:00
  said iconography
• 43:02
  >> right right it's a different it's tough
• 43:06
  it's not a place for nuance
• 43:08
  >> no
• 43:08
  >> I find that YouTube at least is like
• 43:11
  >> you know when I have like a 20 minute
• 43:12
  episode, I have more room for nuance,
• 43:15
  which is nice. Um, but like that is
• 43:18
  still not nuance. It's just nuance
• 43:20
  compared to, you know, an Instagram
• 43:22
  reel.
• 43:23
  >> Um, a little more time to explain
• 43:25
  myself.
• 43:26
  >> I did uh I said something online about
• 43:28
  like eating a I forget exact I forget
• 43:31
  the exact idea, but it was something
• 43:32
  about like um when you buy something,
• 43:35
  you were like down money. Um, and
• 43:38
  somebody else was like, "Um, well, no,
• 43:40
  like you're you're up in the sense that
• 43:42
  like you get a s like you you get to
• 43:44
  have a sandwich." That's like you're up.
• 43:46
  >> And I'm like I was like, "No, I said the
• 43:47
  word money though,
• 43:48
  >> right? You're down money."
• 43:49
  >> I'm not like talking about like vibe,
• 43:51
  >> right?
• 43:52
  >> I forget the exact context, but
• 43:53
  >> Right. It's like an it is an exchange of
• 43:56
  >> of money for a a good or a service. Was
• 44:00
  a sandwich a good or a service? I guess
• 44:01
  it's
• 44:02
  >> a service. Depends on what you're doing
• 44:03
  with it.
• 44:05
  >> Hell yeah. I'm going to try to find this
• 44:07
  green string.
• 44:08
  >> This green string is like hot topic.
• 44:12
  >> My life is ruined if I can't find this
• 44:14
  green string.
• 44:14
  >> It's over. It's because you don't have
• 44:16
  anymore.
• 44:18
  >> Yeah. Okay. Here's the thing with it is
• 44:19
  that um basically what happens is I get
• 44:22
  an arm's length of the embroidery. Oh
• 44:24
  yeah.
• 44:24
  >> And then I cut it and then I have the
• 44:26
  extra Yeah. You have the extra threads
• 44:27
  and it goes and they're the perfect same
• 44:30
  exact length. Right. So this wing, the
• 44:32
  amount of green I put on this one. If I
• 44:34
  have that other green string, it's going
• 44:35
  to be the same amount of green.
• 44:37
  >> Yeah, I had that feeling actually.
• 44:39
  >> [ __ ]
• 44:40
  >> But your arm should still be the same
• 44:41
  length. I don't think you've grown that
• 44:43
  fast.
• 44:43
  >> Oh, wait. That's a good point.
• 44:45
  >> Oh, we're so back. We're so up.
• 44:47
  >> We're so up. All right. Thank you.
• 44:48
  You've saved you saved me from just
• 44:50
  perpetually spiraling on the podcast.
• 44:52
  >> Um, how do you feel about
• 44:55
  >> Oh, yeah. Your turn to ask. You
• 44:56
  interview me. What are we talking about?
• 44:57
  >> Yeah. I'm really into natural fibers,
• 45:00
  making my own stuff. Obviously, it's my
• 45:01
  whole vibe. I want to make my own silk,
• 45:05
  but do you know how they do that? Cuz
• 45:06
  it's really bad. I don't think I could
• 45:08
  do it.
• 45:09
  >> You got to You got to get from
• 45:10
  >> them in the cocoons.
• 45:11
  >> Yeah.
• 45:12
  >> Yeah. And then you unravel their cocoon
• 45:14
  and you steal it all away.
• 45:15
  >> They used to eat them.
• 45:17
  >> Um Yeah. I think they still eat the ones
• 45:19
  that aren't the like flawed ones.
• 45:22
  >> Oh, really?
• 45:22
  >> Yeah. But the ones that are like
• 45:24
  imperfect, they eat and then like most
• 45:26
  of them they like just unravel and like
• 45:29
  the whole cocoon unravels in like a
• 45:31
  single thread and that's what silk is
• 45:32
  made from is those threads.
• 45:33
  >> I don't I don't know if I feel the
• 45:36
  because they are worms so I I I don't
• 45:39
  know how terribly
• 45:40
  >> they would turn into moths. So they are
• 45:42
  like caterpillars,
• 45:43
  >> right? Right. Right.
• 45:44
  >> Yeah. But they're called silk worms.
• 45:45
  Yeah.
• 45:46
  >> Yes. Okay. But but um I guess my thought
• 45:48
  is like um
• 45:52
  in terms of like animal killing ethics.
• 45:54
  >> Yeah.
• 45:55
  >> Uh bugs I I do I do think it's like well
• 45:57
  it is a bug,
• 45:58
  >> right?
• 45:59
  >> You know what I mean? So I don't I don't
• 46:00
  know.
• 46:00
  >> I have a lot less emotional connection
• 46:02
  to it certainly. Um
• 46:04
  >> I don't know.
• 46:05
  >> I was just talking to someone about
• 46:06
  rotisserie chickens today. Do you know
• 46:07
  the average age of a rotisserie chicken
• 46:09
  at the grocery store? Like before
• 46:10
  they're slaughtered.
• 46:12
  >> Guess.
• 46:13
  >> Okay. I'll I'll get I'll try to hazard a
• 46:16
  real guess because they are usually
• 46:17
  smaller than like a full chicken.
• 46:19
  >> Yeah.
• 46:20
  >> Uh okay. And let's see. Chickens
• 46:23
  probably become fulls size way faster
• 46:25
  than you think. Like three months or
• 46:26
  something. So I'm going to go I'm going
• 46:28
  to go with one month.
• 46:29
  >> They are five to seven weeks old. That's
• 46:31
  really good guess.
• 46:33
  >> Um
• 46:34
  >> but yeah, I'm like I want to make a
• 46:35
  video about rotisserie chickens,
• 46:37
  >> but like there's no way they're letting
• 46:39
  me onto a factory farm. That's the thing
• 46:41
  is a lot of my videos it's like my
• 46:43
  videos since I need so much access to
• 46:45
  stuff and I can't really like sneak into
• 46:47
  places. Maybe I should just get better
• 46:48
  at sneaking into places. Um but I
• 46:52
  generally have to ask for access.
• 46:54
  Companies that know they're going to
• 46:56
  come off looking bad do not let me have
• 46:58
  access.
• 46:58
  >> Oh, interesting. Yeah.
• 46:59
  >> Yeah. I can see like uh somebody who's
• 47:01
  been factory farming for 30 years next
• 47:04
  to Macy. You're like hitting the
• 47:05
  chicken's head off wrong. You're like
• 47:07
  bludgeoning it. Totally. I hit it with
• 47:09
  this rock. Right.
• 47:10
  >> Yeah.
• 47:11
  >> And this is what every chicken at
• 47:13
  Walmart is.
• 47:13
  >> The agave stick on the chicken.
• 47:16
  >> Exactly.
• 47:18
  Um
• 47:19
  >> Yeah. No, factory farming is really
• 47:21
  [ __ ]
• 47:21
  >> It's really [ __ ] Yeah.
• 47:23
  >> Um I was also I was at the Would you
• 47:26
  believe I went to the New York Sheep and
• 47:28
  Wool Festival.
• 47:29
  >> Would you believe that's a place I hang
• 47:30
  out? Um so my vibe. Uh I took a leather
• 47:36
  and parchment class there. Did you know
• 47:38
  parchment used to be like parchment used
• 47:40
  to actually mean something specific, not
• 47:42
  just like a kind of paper? It's
• 47:44
  parchment is leather. It's an animal
• 47:47
  skin product
• 47:48
  >> really
• 47:48
  >> that's been like dried um and like
• 47:50
  smoothed out. Um and like Toras
• 47:53
  according to Jewish law still have to
• 47:55
  have like actual parchment paper.
• 47:56
  >> Oh, interesting.
• 47:57
  >> Um and it has to be like made in a
• 47:59
  special way. The woman who like taught
• 48:00
  the class was Jewish and was like
• 48:02
  showing us like a Torah grade piece of
• 48:04
  parchment versus like just artist
• 48:05
  parchment. but it like soaks up like ink
• 48:08
  and paint in a really interesting way.
• 48:10
  So, a lot of artists still want to use
• 48:12
  like real parchment. And so, this woman
• 48:13
  owns this like business in the Hudson
• 48:15
  Valley doing this. And she was talking
• 48:17
  about like leather industry and leather
• 48:18
  ethics. Obviously, she cares a lot about
• 48:20
  that.
• 48:21
  >> Um, working in that business. And did
• 48:24
  you know that like all of the animals
• 48:25
  that are factory farmed in the US, we
• 48:27
  just like waste the leather
• 48:29
  >> really?
• 48:29
  >> Like the way that they're butchered, it
• 48:31
  just like cuts it. You lose the leather.
• 48:33
  like they don't like spare it or try to
• 48:35
  keep it in one like usable piece at all.
• 48:38
  And so I'm like that's my new biggest
• 48:40
  like environmental fashion ethics
• 48:42
  whatever take is like it should be
• 48:45
  illegal to not get the skin of the
• 48:48
  animal you're already butchering.
• 48:49
  >> Damn. I I'm curious uh this is because
• 48:52
  this touched into that already. Um what
• 48:54
  are some videos that maybe because the
• 48:58
  companies would come off wrong uh or
• 49:00
  that you can't get access? What are some
• 49:03
  secret Macy Desire videos such as
• 49:06
  factory farming where the leather
• 49:07
  industry?
• 49:08
  >> My white whale is skyscraper window
• 49:10
  washing.
• 49:11
  >> That one is not that they would
• 49:12
  necessarily come off wrong. It's that
• 49:14
  they do not have anything to gain from
• 49:18
  like a marketing perspective from even
• 49:20
  that video going really well. Like
• 49:21
  that's not like a business that needs
• 49:23
  like marketing. Like there are like two
• 49:24
  companies that do that. It's also just
• 49:26
  obviously way incredibly high risk where
• 49:29
  like they don't want me to do that. Um,
• 49:34
  other videos I want to do a video on
• 49:36
  like
• 49:38
  >> I'm really obsessed with the idea of
• 49:39
  doing things from start to finish.
• 49:41
  Obviously,
• 49:42
  >> also I like the idea that the skyscraper
• 49:43
  company window washing is like somehow
• 49:45
  really unethical too.
• 49:47
  >> They might be they're using pure leather
• 49:49
  or something.
• 49:50
  Sorry, you were saying you were saying
• 49:52
  >> um
• 49:52
  >> your other idea
• 49:53
  >> my other idea that I wanted to do is AI
• 49:56
  from start to finish and I want to like
• 49:58
  I want to go like mine the rare earth
• 50:00
  metals that go into the chips and then I
• 50:02
  want to like go to the like data center
• 50:05
  and like see the you know all the water
• 50:07
  that's used to cool stuff and whatever
• 50:09
  whatever. Um obviously no step in that
• 50:13
  process are they going to want me to do
• 50:15
  that. Oh, sure. I keep thinking I've
• 50:17
  been thinking about like, okay, you know
• 50:18
  how they're always like, well, the
• 50:19
  cobalt in your phone is like minded by
• 50:21
  slaves, etc. I'm like I'm always like,
• 50:24
  >> okay,
• 50:26
  >> why there's so many things in this
• 50:28
  phone? Uh why why are they having some
• 50:33
  of the stuff be slave stuff? Like, stop
• 50:37
  doing that. Like, get cobalt. Like, I
• 50:39
  know. Like, I'm like, okay, does cobalt
• 50:41
  only come from slave mines?
• 50:43
  >> I think it does. I think that the only
• 50:45
  countries that are like actively mining
• 50:46
  cobalt like use slave labor to do it
• 50:48
  because it's like really bad. And see
• 50:50
  that's another one that I want to do and
• 50:52
  then knock it off.
• 50:53
  >> Knock it off.
• 50:54
  >> Make the phones worse until we [ __ ]
• 50:56
  figure that out. You know what I mean?
• 50:57
  It's like don't be like, "Ah, sorry. We
• 51:00
  got to have the telephone." You know
• 51:01
  what I mean,
• 51:02
  >> right? Um feels feels like we could uh
• 51:07
  take a stand on that one. Maybe any of
• 51:09
  the companies that benefit from said
• 51:11
  slave labor could could take a stand on
• 51:13
  that one. Um
• 51:15
  but um yeah, for now they haven't. Um
• 51:19
  >> sorry, let me
• 51:20
  >> No, it's this was a lot of what I
• 51:22
  thought about during my like tech
• 51:23
  wastist video. That stuff is another
• 51:25
  thing where like not only
• 51:27
  >> is the cobalt mining company not going
• 51:30
  to want me to go there. Morning Brew, I
• 51:33
  put them through so much. They they new
• 51:36
  rules exist all the time because I have
• 51:39
  to do
• 51:39
  >> What are some of them? Well, like um
• 51:42
  even for the for the tequila video, my
• 51:45
  boss was like,
• 51:46
  >> "Stop drinking tequila."
• 51:47
  >> I don't know. Yeah. He was like, "Stop
• 51:48
  drinking at work." Um but he knows that
• 51:50
  won't happen. So he was like, "I don't
• 51:54
  know how safe I feel about that cuz we
• 51:56
  like flew into Guadalajara and then you
• 51:57
  have to like drive over to Tequila um
• 51:59
  which is like a three-hour drive." And
• 52:01
  so he was like, "Let me see if I feel
• 52:02
  like this is safe." and he was like
• 52:06
  googling like
• 52:07
  >> highway kidnappings
• 52:10
  in Guadalara.
• 52:11
  >> Very very easy. That's crazy. I know.
• 52:13
  >> But it's easy to easy to drive into
• 52:15
  Tequila, but it's very difficult driving
• 52:17
  back out. It's hard to see the road.
• 52:20
  Sorry.
• 52:21
  >> The road there's like two roads going
• 52:22
  out. There's one road going in. There's
• 52:23
  two roads going out.
• 52:25
  >> Um
• 52:26
  >> that is crazy. Was it Was it dangerous?
• 52:28
  Was it like a
• 52:28
  >> No, I felt like we were safe the whole
• 52:30
  time. The other thing is because we're
• 52:31
  going with Joseé Quervo who's like
• 52:34
  showing us their factory like they just
• 52:36
  sent a driver for us
• 52:37
  >> and so like that is like the only time
• 52:39
  we would we have like accepted money
• 52:41
  from a brand that we're covering is that
• 52:43
  it's like
• 52:44
  >> a safety
• 52:44
  >> a safety thing and then it's also like
• 52:47
  >> yeah like that's you know that's not a
• 52:50
  concern. Um, but yeah, it's funny that
• 52:52
  like I don't consider my safety in that
• 52:55
  way, like really ever, but like as the
• 52:59
  company that employs me, like they could
• 53:01
  obviously it would be worse for them if
• 53:04
  something happened to me,
• 53:05
  >> right? Right. Of course.
• 53:06
  >> Um, and so sometimes with my video
• 53:08
  ideas, they're like, "We're not sending
• 53:09
  you to the Congo
• 53:12
  >> to mine cobalt
• 53:13
  >> to mine cobalt." I'm like, "Okay,
• 53:14
  >> I see my starting
• 53:15
  >> this place is a [ __ ] prison, right?
• 53:18
  We should start we should start a
• 53:19
  workerowned cobalt mining
• 53:22
  >> ethical.
• 53:23
  >> I like that.
• 53:24
  >> Well, I guess part of the part of the
• 53:25
  recycling video is it's like it's not I
• 53:28
  mean it's still the cobalt was
• 53:29
  originally mined by slaves, but it's
• 53:31
  like in the sense of like a more sem
• 53:34
  semi more ethical cobalt source. It's
• 53:37
  recycled.
• 53:37
  >> Recycled, right?
• 53:38
  >> Well, yeah. It's like diamonds. I want
• 53:41
  to do a video on the diamond industry. I
• 53:42
  might try to do that next year and see
• 53:44
  if I can go.
• 53:46
  >> Diamond mining would be tough, of
• 53:48
  course, because that's going to be
• 53:50
  pretty similar to the cobalt thing.
• 53:53
  >> Um, maybe there's a company that's like,
• 53:55
  "We mine diamonds, but we think we have
• 53:56
  ethical standards." And they would let
• 53:58
  me go see it.
• 53:59
  Um, but then I would love to go to one
• 54:02
  of the labs where they grow diamonds
• 54:04
  >> and watch what that looks like because I
• 54:06
  imagine do you ever make those like
• 54:07
  crystal candies as a kid where you just
• 54:09
  like stick the stick in the sugar water
• 54:11
  and then there's like crystals on there.
• 54:13
  I think that's how the diamonds work,
• 54:14
  right,
• 54:15
  >> dude? Our our we've got our Himalayan we
• 54:17
  got a Himalayan salt lamp and it's in
• 54:19
  our bathroom.
• 54:20
  >> Yeah.
• 54:21
  >> And it's growing like the like the base
• 54:25
  of it like there's salt crystals or
• 54:26
  something. I don't know exactly. Maybe.
• 54:28
  >> Is it growing or is it melting? Cuz my
• 54:29
  sister's melted.
• 54:31
  >> That could be it. Maybe it's melting.
• 54:32
  >> Humid. Humid in the bathroom. It's
• 54:34
  probably melting.
• 54:34
  >> Okay. It's probably melting and then
• 54:35
  reforming
• 54:36
  >> and then reforming at the bottom.
• 54:37
  >> Good point. There's no salt in the air.
• 54:38
  I didn't think about that for like a
• 54:40
  second.
• 54:40
  >> Yeah.
• 54:40
  >> There's Yeah.
• 54:42
  >> Um,
• 54:44
  >> good point. Good point.
• 54:46
  >> Hate to say it. I watched it happen with
• 54:48
  my sister's lamp. Um, and it was also on
• 54:50
  like a she had it sitting on like a
• 54:52
  metal table and the metal table like
• 54:54
  rusted from all the sun.
• 54:55
  >> Oh no.
• 54:55
  >> I was like, "Girl, get this out of
• 54:56
  here." Why also why why is the newest
• 55:00
  lampshade trend a big chunk of salt?
• 55:04
  >> I'm
• 55:05
  into it too, but it's like everybody's
• 55:06
  got
• 55:07
  >> awesome. We were like, well, if we put
• 55:08
  the lamps under salt,
• 55:09
  >> but like everybody was like,
• 55:11
  >> we could never do it before because when
• 55:13
  lamp was candle, candle would go out
• 55:17
  because there's no air.
• 55:19
  >> So, think about that.
• 55:19
  >> That's true.
• 55:20
  >> This is this is the first time in in
• 55:22
  human history that it's even been
• 55:23
  possible.
• 55:24
  >> Oh, yeah. That's awesome. That's a
• 55:26
  positive new technology.
• 55:27
  >> Yeah.
• 55:27
  >> Deep dive into the Himalayan. Are they
• 55:29
  really from Himalayan?
• 55:30
  >> No, they can't be.
• 55:31
  >> No.
• 55:32
  >> Right. I don't even know that.
• 55:36
  >> The lamp. But the lamp.
• 55:37
  >> The lamp.
• 55:40
  >> You telling me a Himalayan salted this
• 55:42
  lamp?
• 55:43
  >> We We're doing Oh, wow. I kind of
• 55:45
  checked close to an hour.
• 55:45
  >> Freaking fly by.
• 55:46
  >> Yeah, I'm kind of We were We were
• 55:49
  cooking. I feel like Well, okay. Um,
• 55:52
  you're one of the few guests I've had on
• 55:53
  that I actually hadn't met in person
• 55:54
  previously.
• 55:55
  >> That's fun.
• 55:56
  >> Uh, so that's kind of neat. I because I
• 55:57
  liked your stuff online and I was like,
• 55:59
  thanks.
• 55:59
  >> And I also was like I I mean I would see
• 56:02
  you like a standup thing, too. So I was
• 56:04
  like, oh, I think we could Yeah.
• 56:05
  >> I think we'd have a mutual
• 56:07
  understanding, right?
• 56:08
  >> Um, so it's the shout out to the
• 56:10
  algorithm.
• 56:11
  >> Shout out to the algorithm. People are
• 56:12
  mean about it.
• 56:13
  >> Yeah. What do you What are your thoughts
• 56:14
  on the algorithm?
• 56:15
  >> I like the I mean literally my entire
• 56:17
  life, right? Like the performance of my
• 56:19
  job. I guess in a way you can also
• 56:21
  relate to is very much measured on does
• 56:23
  the algorithm like me.
• 56:24
  >> Yes.
• 56:25
  >> Yeah. Yeah. And so I have a a special
• 56:28
  relationship with it where it's like
• 56:30
  well I need to understand it a lot and I
• 56:32
  need it to be on my side.
• 56:33
  >> Also wait where I I guess where I was
• 56:35
  where I was going with that was just
• 56:36
  that we kind of came in hot immediately
• 56:38
  and I was like this video this video
• 56:40
  this video this video because I was like
• 56:42
  I haven't I haven't ever had a chance to
• 56:44
  you know what I mean?
• 56:45
  >> Yeah. No, that makes sense.
• 56:46
  >> That's neat. Do you have any hot takes
• 56:48
  you're cooking that you weren't able to
• 56:49
  do on Subway? Do you also work I I like
• 56:52
  workshopped a few Subway takes before
• 56:53
  doing it?
• 56:54
  >> Oh, yeah. No, it was lucky. I had it was
• 56:56
  like my birthday right before I went on
• 56:58
  Subway Takes. So, I had all of the
• 57:00
  people that I love and trust in one
• 57:02
  place and I go, "All right, we're going
• 57:03
  to run down the list." And then we even
• 57:06
  went through like phrasing of like what
• 57:09
  people were going to like latch on to
• 57:10
  the most and like misunderstand
• 57:12
  intentionally or whatever. Um, so yes, I
• 57:15
  got to I got to test them on
• 57:17
  >> and and you still got misunderstood.
• 57:18
  >> And I still got misunderstood in an
• 57:20
  awesome way, but I got misunderstood by
• 57:22
  people that I don't like or care about.
• 57:24
  And so that is ultimately okay.
• 57:27
  >> Well, I've actually Okay. Uh, I've
• 57:28
  noticed that as well for online.
• 57:30
  >> What was your take?
• 57:32
  >> We should eat bugs.
• 57:33
  >> Oh, yeah.
• 57:34
  >> I should have workshop that a bit.
• 57:36
  >> No, it's good.
• 57:36
  >> I uh
• 57:37
  >> Okay. Sorry.
• 57:38
  >> Oh, no. just a thing of um I've noticed
• 57:40
  for online um
• 57:43
  that if somebody who disagrees or
• 57:44
  criticizes my stuff, if I can tell that
• 57:47
  they're like some sort of psycho [ __ ]
• 57:49
  Yeah.
• 57:49
  >> I kind of I'm like, well, that doesn't
• 57:50
  matter.
• 57:51
  >> Right.
• 57:51
  >> But and like because I but I think that
• 57:53
  I do actually try to take online
• 57:55
  criticism genuinely if I think it's
• 57:57
  coming from someone who I think has some
• 57:59
  sort of discerning judgment.
• 58:01
  >> Right.
• 58:01
  >> I can make mistakes and sometimes people
• 58:03
  in my comments will tell me that.
• 58:04
  >> Yes. And that's hard to accept.
• 58:06
  >> It's hard to accept. One of you [ __ ]
• 58:09
  the other day let me know that my Bernie
• 58:11
  Sanders joke the punch line should come
• 58:13
  further at the end and I was like
• 58:14
  they're right the right
• 58:14
  >> [ __ ]
• 58:16
  >> That's awesome for them to be like
• 58:18
  giving you notes.
• 58:18
  >> Yeah. No, but don't do that generally.
• 58:21
  Let me write the damn joke. Sorry.
• 58:23
  >> Well, cuz then you're mad when you have
• 58:24
  to do it their way or you have to not
• 58:26
  take the note because you're like I
• 58:28
  don't want to do their joke forever.
• 58:30
  >> People when people do people give you
• 58:33
  advice a lot?
• 58:35
  >> No.
• 58:35
  >> Or something. Okay. Um,
• 58:37
  >> people tell you, I don't know.
• 58:38
  >> People will comment and they'll be like,
• 58:39
  "Oh, and you didn't even bring up this
• 58:41
  thing or that thing." And I'm like,
• 58:42
  "Yeah, I didn't. Maybe I should have. I
• 58:44
  don't know. I didn't feel like it fit
• 58:45
  here or like I didn't have a way to
• 58:47
  bring it up, but like
• 58:48
  >> I don't know. Maybe." But generally,
• 58:50
  they'll just be like, "And you didn't
• 58:51
  even touch on like this element." Like
• 58:53
  with my tequila video, they're like,
• 58:54
  "You didn't even talk about the fact
• 58:55
  that Jose Quervo has a bunch of
• 58:56
  additives in their tequila." And I'm
• 58:57
  like, "I didn't find that an interesting
• 59:00
  point."
• 59:01
  >> Mhm.
• 59:02
  >> Um, so
• 59:05
  like
• 59:05
  >> Yeah. note taking like I knew that ahead
• 59:08
  of time and I disagreed.
• 59:09
  >> Yeah, it's just like I don't know. Maybe
• 59:11
  it's like a shelf stable. I don't know
• 59:12
  what
• 59:13
  >> that's the only um
• 59:14
  >> that's the only uh kind of like note
• 59:17
  people give me.
• 59:18
  >> I get uh people are always like pitching
• 59:20
  me jokes and I'm like how do you think
• 59:22
  this works? So, you think I'm going to
• 59:24
  take this joke?
• 59:25
  >> Well, people pitch me video concepts all
• 59:27
  the time.
• 59:27
  >> I just did it I did it 10 minutes ago.
• 59:29
  >> Um yeah, but I feel like all of yours
• 59:31
  were good.
• 59:33
  >> They're like there's this I don't know.
• 59:35
  They just I'm like sometimes people will
• 59:37
  say stuff to me and I'm like you have a
• 59:38
  fundamental mis misunderstanding of what
• 59:39
  I'm up to here.
• 59:41
  >> What are what are some of your what are
• 59:42
  some of your other limiting factors
• 59:44
  besides okay you've got that
• 59:46
  accessibility safety
• 59:47
  >> the brand wanting me to do it or not.
• 59:49
  >> Mhm. Um, sometimes it is a time thing.
• 59:52
  Like I wish that like it was, you know,
• 59:55
  1985 and you could, you know, work at
• 59:59
  the town paper and get to spend six
• 1:00:02
  months going in depth on one single
• 1:00:04
  story, but it's like I work for the
• 1:00:08
  algorithm and the algorithm wants
• 1:00:10
  content from me on a little bit more of
• 1:00:12
  a consistent basis. And so like I can
• 1:00:14
  take longer on projects, but like if I'm
• 1:00:17
  taking longer on a project, it's like in
• 1:00:19
  the background while I'm putting out
• 1:00:20
  other stuff still.
• 1:00:21
  >> Are you are you paid by the algorithm
• 1:00:23
  too? Like is if a video is viral, this
• 1:00:25
  Morning Bro This Morning Brew all go,
• 1:00:27
  "Yay, Macy." I have it like in my
• 1:00:30
  contract I'm like a salaried employee
• 1:00:33
  and then I get a bonus based on ad
• 1:00:36
  revenue on the show which is partially
• 1:00:38
  based on like Google AdSense
• 1:00:40
  >> um
• 1:00:41
  >> like the YouTube monetization
• 1:00:42
  >> like the YouTube like midroll ad
• 1:00:44
  monetization and then also from like ad
• 1:00:47
  reads that I do like the tequila video
• 1:00:49
  had an ad read for like a travel company
• 1:00:52
  app um and so like I get a cut of that
• 1:00:57
  um so that's kind of based on the
• 1:00:59
  performance of the videos, but like
• 1:01:00
  generally Morning Brew is a really good
• 1:01:04
  and in a way I really appreciate of like
• 1:01:05
  not being like make everything go viral
• 1:01:09
  at all costs. Like it's just like yeah,
• 1:01:11
  if it happens that's great. Obviously
• 1:01:13
  the goal is for things to get views but
• 1:01:15
  like not in an insane way.
• 1:01:17
  >> Uh was the stamp one the first one? The
• 1:01:19
  stamp one was the second one I did in
• 1:01:22
  that series of like the how are you
• 1:01:24
  still in business series where I like
• 1:01:27
  profile the small businesses.
• 1:01:28
  >> That was the first one I saw.
• 1:01:30
  >> The first one that I ever did was down
• 1:01:31
  the street. Um uh pigeons on Broadway.
• 1:01:35
  >> What? I don't know about this.
• 1:01:36
  >> It's on like Broadway and Hollyy. H
• 1:01:39
  >> um
• 1:01:40
  >> was it was it a pigeon store?
• 1:01:41
  >> He sells pigeons. His name is Michael
• 1:01:43
  Scott and he sells pigeons.
• 1:01:44
  >> What? Now, Michael Scott is
• 1:01:46
  controversial because some people do you
• 1:01:48
  know Mother Pigeon?
• 1:01:50
  >> No.
• 1:01:51
  >> Mother Pigeon is a really cool gal.
• 1:01:54
  Really sick vibe. She lives near here
• 1:01:56
  and she feeds a flock of pigeons in
• 1:01:57
  Maria Hernandez Park.
• 1:01:59
  >> Really? That's awesome.
• 1:01:59
  >> She also crafts these really cool felt
• 1:02:02
  pigeons, like little statues that are
• 1:02:04
  cute that she sells. Um, she claims and
• 1:02:08
  then she's really big on pigeon rights.
• 1:02:09
  also leads these workshops I've been
• 1:02:12
  wanting to go to where she teaches you
• 1:02:13
  to use a needle uh cutter thing for
• 1:02:17
  sewing. Uh I forget the word. It's a
• 1:02:21
  little tiny sewing tool that you can
• 1:02:22
  just like throw in your bag and you can
• 1:02:25
  use it to cut the strings off pigeons
• 1:02:27
  feet when you see them and they have
• 1:02:28
  like string wrapped around their toes
• 1:02:30
  because if the string stays on their
• 1:02:31
  toes it'll like cut off their
• 1:02:32
  circulation and they'll lose their toe.
• 1:02:34
  >> So she is all about pigeon rights,
• 1:02:36
  pigeon advocacy, pigeon art. She's cool.
• 1:02:39
  She's awesome. Super weird lady. She
• 1:02:41
  claims that Michael Scott of Pigeons on
• 1:02:43
  Broadway is selling his pigeons to
• 1:02:47
  pigeon hunts that happen in Pennsylvania
• 1:02:49
  where people release a bunch of pigeons
• 1:02:52
  and then just shoot at a bunch of
• 1:02:53
  pigeons in the sky, which is a hobby
• 1:02:55
  some people have, I guess.
• 1:02:57
  >> Wow.
• 1:02:58
  >> Um, and so since making that video, I
• 1:03:01
  learned about that and I was like, "Oh,
• 1:03:04
  well,
• 1:03:05
  >> damn."
• 1:03:06
  >> Yeah. I don't know how much merit there
• 1:03:08
  is to that. There was one time where
• 1:03:10
  like someone went to Maria Hernandez
• 1:03:11
  Park and like literally with a net like
• 1:03:14
  in like a cheesy kids movie, like a like
• 1:03:16
  an animal catcher net,
• 1:03:19
  >> netted a bunch of pigeons and threw them
• 1:03:20
  in the back of a van
• 1:03:22
  >> and she said that it was Michael Scott.
• 1:03:24
  A video came out and it was clearly not
• 1:03:25
  him.
• 1:03:26
  >> Another van comes up, releases a bunch
• 1:03:28
  of and releases a bunch of pigeons in
• 1:03:29
  the same spot and they're all like
• 1:03:31
  wearing sunglasses.
• 1:03:32
  >> Exactly.
• 1:03:33
  Um whether or not it's she
• 1:03:35
  >> true that that was Michael Scott, I
• 1:03:37
  don't know. But like there are a lot of
• 1:03:40
  >> allegations of him not being nice to the
• 1:03:42
  pigeons. And I really don't know.
• 1:03:43
  >> Pigeon drama. Wow.
• 1:03:44
  >> It's a lot of pigeon drama. I saw him be
• 1:03:47
  very nice to the flock of pigeons he has
• 1:03:49
  on his roof. But she claims that he has
• 1:03:51
  like two classes of pigeons in his mind.
• 1:03:53
  He has fancy pigeons on his roof. He has
• 1:03:55
  a flock of 700 pigeons on his roof that
• 1:03:57
  he like breeds and like selects for like
• 1:03:59
  the little colors on their neck. Um,
• 1:04:03
  and then some of the pigeons are like
• 1:04:07
  ones that he doesn't care about
• 1:04:09
  >> and so then he'll sell the others to the
• 1:04:11
  pigeon shoots.
• 1:04:13
  >> I care about them from the perspective
• 1:04:14
  of their poop is highly poisonous and
• 1:04:17
  that is a fascinating idea structure to
• 1:04:20
  me. The idea of having like really
• 1:04:21
  really dangerous poop is so funny.
• 1:04:23
  >> It is really funny and it funny to be
• 1:04:25
  all over the
• 1:04:26
  >> being. Sorry. I um Okay, so you got this
• 1:04:28
  new
• 1:04:30
  >> this new personal channel. Yeah.
• 1:04:31
  >> And then you've got your morning brew.
• 1:04:33
  And then you've got your secret sort of
• 1:04:35
  ones that you can't do. And would you
• 1:04:37
  ever have like maybe four channels?
• 1:04:39
  You've got Morning Brew,
• 1:04:41
  >> you've got your personal one,
• 1:04:43
  >> you've got uh maybe you start getting
• 1:04:45
  involved with like Greenpeace and Greta
• 1:04:47
  Thunberg or something and start doing
• 1:04:48
  like uh
• 1:04:49
  >> like the more high-risk ones,
• 1:04:52
  >> right? Someone someone who wants to take
• 1:04:53
  risks, let me do something dangerous and
• 1:04:55
  fund it.
• 1:04:56
  >> Yeah.
• 1:04:57
  >> Going into the cobalt mine, right? And
• 1:04:59
  then um and then the fourth one is more
• 1:05:01
  like uh you I don't know however like
• 1:05:04
  the skyscraper one. I don't know how you
• 1:05:05
  would get that. Also, can I ask okay
• 1:05:07
  pulling back from that kind of joke? Why
• 1:05:10
  is the sweater your personal channel?
• 1:05:12
  >> Sweater is my personal channel. That's a
• 1:05:14
  great question. Uh sweater is my
• 1:05:16
  personal channel because
• 1:05:18
  whenever I make something at morning
• 1:05:20
  brew, there has to be nice
• 1:05:22
  >> yellow.
• 1:05:22
  >> I like yellow a lot. Yellow is a really
• 1:05:24
  good color. Yellow is exactly what that
• 1:05:26
  needs.
• 1:05:26
  >> Nice. Thank you. Um,
• 1:05:28
  >> sorry.
• 1:05:30
  >> No, it's good. Sweater is personal
• 1:05:32
  channel because anything I make for
• 1:05:33
  Morning Brew, Morning Brew is a business
• 1:05:35
  media company. Anything I make for
• 1:05:37
  Morning Brew has to have a business
• 1:05:38
  angle. And sometimes I don't want a
• 1:05:40
  story to have a business angle.
• 1:05:41
  Sometimes it's nice to just show how
• 1:05:43
  something is made.
• 1:05:44
  >> And I don't think that that sweater
• 1:05:46
  video will have enough of a business
• 1:05:48
  feeling that you leave with,
• 1:05:50
  >> right,
• 1:05:51
  >> to justify it being on the Morning Brew
• 1:05:52
  channel. Nor do I want to force it to. I
• 1:05:55
  do think I can come up with a short
• 1:05:57
  that's businessy enough for Morning
• 1:05:59
  Brew.
• 1:06:00
  >> Um, that's just like about cost of labor
• 1:06:03
  and like work it into like the fashion
• 1:06:05
  industry that way
• 1:06:07
  >> and then I can collab. Morning Brew is
• 1:06:09
  very good about letting me collab post.
• 1:06:11
  >> So then I could collab post to promote
• 1:06:13
  the fulllength long form one on my
• 1:06:15
  YouTube channel.
• 1:06:17
  >> That's not That's good of them.
• 1:06:18
  >> Yeah, they're they're very good at that.
• 1:06:20
  It's our our like chief content officer
• 1:06:22
  guy who's my boss who like he came up
• 1:06:24
  through like the BuzzFeed
• 1:06:27
  um like millennial media companies of it
• 1:06:29
  all and just watched them like
• 1:06:30
  constantly bleed talent
• 1:06:32
  >> and so he's like we're obviously going
• 1:06:34
  to bleed talent at some point but like I
• 1:06:36
  can keep them around for longer if I'm
• 1:06:38
  nice to them and that's what he does
• 1:06:40
  which is great.
• 1:06:41
  >> That's smart.
• 1:06:41
  >> Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  >> Morning Brew.
• 1:06:44
  >> Okay. Uh,
• 1:06:46
  I don't know how much I'm should be
• 1:06:47
  asking about you versus Morning Brew,
• 1:06:49
  but I guess how Morning Brew, Morning
• 1:06:51
  Brew is me. It's both.
• 1:06:53
  >> So, I I guess like um a lot of the media
• 1:06:55
  companies I mean that's a great point
• 1:06:56
  like uh these Buzzfeeds and other
• 1:06:59
  companies have sort of failed.
• 1:07:01
  >> Yeah.
• 1:07:01
  >> So, I'm curious uh what is what is the
• 1:07:05
  success of what your space is doing and
• 1:07:08
  like you know what I mean? Because like
• 1:07:09
  um in in my world, Comedy Central has
• 1:07:12
  gone out of business.
• 1:07:13
  >> Yeah. uh and has been sort of replaced
• 1:07:15
  by a lot of these more algorithm
• 1:07:17
  oriented ones. Is that is that part of
• 1:07:18
  the idea or what's the
• 1:07:20
  >> I think that's part of it. I think it's
• 1:07:22
  like it's doing a very similar model
• 1:07:24
  that's been done. Like I don't think
• 1:07:25
  we're doing anything that's that
• 1:07:27
  different from what like Buzzfeed ever
• 1:07:28
  did. I will say Morning Group is good at
• 1:07:32
  not doing the like go super general
• 1:07:35
  thing. like they are strictly staying
• 1:07:38
  focused that like we are not just going
• 1:07:41
  to make like funny videos about whatever
• 1:07:43
  like it is business media.
• 1:07:45
  >> So like not going like completely
• 1:07:47
  general I think is a good call. Um a lot
• 1:07:50
  of the morning brew business is stuff
• 1:07:52
  you've never heard of that's like for
• 1:07:55
  specific industries. So we have like
• 1:07:58
  newsletters for like the retail
• 1:08:00
  industry, for healthcare, for finance,
• 1:08:03
  for tech, for marketing. um like all
• 1:08:07
  these really specific newsletters um
• 1:08:10
  that like are a very important part of
• 1:08:12
  the business that are like not exciting
• 1:08:14
  and people don't know about unless they
• 1:08:17
  work in those industries but are like a
• 1:08:20
  very important part of it and like an
• 1:08:21
  example of them not being general which
• 1:08:23
  is like a super boring answer. The more
• 1:08:25
  exciting version of that answer is like
• 1:08:27
  what they're doing right is like keeping
• 1:08:29
  me happy and like
• 1:08:30
  >> nice
• 1:08:31
  >> not making me want to leave because like
• 1:08:34
  they are not only like letting me do
• 1:08:37
  stuff outside of Morning Brew, but they
• 1:08:39
  like encourage it and support it and
• 1:08:41
  will like crossost to promote it.
• 1:08:43
  >> That's nice.
• 1:08:44
  >> Um whereas like if they weren't letting
• 1:08:46
  me do that, I feel like I would have
• 1:08:47
  left already because I don't want to
• 1:08:48
  just do Morning Brew. So if I had to
• 1:08:50
  choose between just Morning Brew and
• 1:08:51
  just something else, I would leave. But
• 1:08:53
  like I can do both.
• 1:08:54
  >> And what's And what's next for you? What
• 1:08:55
  are you trying to What What are you
• 1:08:57
  What's the goal here?
• 1:08:58
  >> My contract is up April of 2027. And I
• 1:09:01
  would like to go independent then.
• 1:09:03
  That's like what I told them. And that's
• 1:09:04
  I think how I still feel about it. Um at
• 1:09:08
  some point I just like I don't love the
• 1:09:11
  the business angle to every story I
• 1:09:14
  make. Like I'm just kind of tired of
• 1:09:16
  that angle and that like series of like
• 1:09:19
  trying jobs. I still think jobs are like
• 1:09:20
  a very interesting way to explore the
• 1:09:22
  world. Everyone has a job. Um except for
• 1:09:25
  like really lucky people.
• 1:09:30
  But yeah, like at some point I would
• 1:09:32
  just like I think the root of all of my
• 1:09:34
  videos are that they're like human
• 1:09:36
  interest stories that right now I'm like
• 1:09:38
  shoehorning a business angle into. And
• 1:09:40
  so one day if I could just make
• 1:09:42
  interesting stories about interesting
• 1:09:44
  people on my own YouTube channel or like
• 1:09:46
  some other form of show, I think that
• 1:09:48
  that would be fun. like a travel show
• 1:09:50
  type thing or something like
• 1:09:52
  >> Yeah.
• 1:09:53
  >> No. Yeah. Cool.
• 1:09:55
  >> It's fun.
• 1:09:56
  >> Hell yeah. No, it's great. Yeah. I mean,
• 1:09:59
  you summed it up well with the like the
• 1:10:01
  Cleo Rose plus Conan travel thing.
• 1:10:05
  >> Conan Conan's had a whole long career of
• 1:10:06
  just doing whatever
• 1:10:09
  thing.
• 1:10:09
  >> It's worked out really well for him.
• 1:10:10
  Yeah. Like, how do you do that?
• 1:10:12
  >> You're the new You're the new Conan.
• 1:10:13
  >> People are saying just because of how
• 1:10:15
  tall I am. People don't know this, but
• 1:10:17
  I'm 11 feet tall.
• 1:10:21
  One of my co-workers and I, meowitz at
• 1:10:24
  Morning Brew, she rocks. Um, she and I
• 1:10:26
  were talking about starting a bit where
• 1:10:29
  we do like a forced perspective in every
• 1:10:31
  video that makes me look super super
• 1:10:32
  super tall.
• 1:10:33
  >> Just everybody at one point,
• 1:10:34
  >> every video just like switch over to me
• 1:10:36
  looking so tall.
• 1:10:38
  >> I like that.
• 1:10:40
  >> Um,
• 1:10:41
  >> I only recently decided to start making
• 1:10:42
  this an arts and crafts uh podcast, by
• 1:10:44
  the way. This is like maybe like
• 1:10:45
  >> Oh,
• 1:10:46
  >> maybe like um I don't know, maybe like
• 1:10:48
  uh 15 episodes or so. I did it one I did
• 1:10:51
  it like in one episode and I was like,
• 1:10:52
  "Wait,
• 1:10:53
  >> that should obviously be the premise."
• 1:10:55
  >> Well, it's so much fun and it's like
• 1:10:58
  >> you're like locked in.
• 1:10:59
  >> Yeah. Well, and this is why like every
• 1:11:01
  child therapist is like, "Why don't we
• 1:11:02
  draw a picture while we talk?" It's like
• 1:11:04
  now I'm just talking. I don't know what
• 1:11:06
  I'm saying.
• 1:11:06
  >> That's right. I'm like I'm like not
• 1:11:08
  looking at you.
• 1:11:08
  >> Oh, yeah. No, I haven't looked at you at
• 1:11:10
  all. I actually it honestly it actually
• 1:11:12
  feels weird to look at you. I'm like
• 1:11:15
  whoa
• 1:11:15
  >> when you're knitting because I'm kind of
• 1:11:17
  watching you and I'm like all right I'm
• 1:11:19
  going to go back to embroidering now
• 1:11:20
  because instead I'm just like
• 1:11:22
  >> right
• 1:11:23
  >> observing you
• 1:11:26
  >> um that
• 1:11:28
  >> knitting knitting circle
• 1:11:29
  >> knitting circle that should be the new
• 1:11:31
  name of the pod.
• 1:11:32
  >> Yeah circle
• 1:11:33
  >> it's bugghive is the
• 1:11:34
  >> bughive is good too. I just did a
• 1:11:35
  stopotion animation um intro and your
• 1:11:38
  episode's gonna be the first one that I
• 1:11:40
  put it on.
• 1:11:40
  >> Holy [ __ ] that's really exciting. I'm
• 1:11:43
  learning After Effects so I can do
• 1:11:44
  stopotion stuff.
• 1:11:45
  >> Oh, I did it in Premiere by Cuz
• 1:11:50
  >> that is easier
• 1:11:51
  >> with stop motion so it didn't be
• 1:11:52
  >> I guess that's true.
• 1:11:53
  >> Didn't need to be um
• 1:11:54
  >> no effects.
• 1:11:55
  >> Yeah. Yeah. It's literally just like
• 1:11:56
  photo photo. Yeah,
• 1:11:58
  >> that rocks.
• 1:11:59
  >> Um
• 1:12:00
  >> I'll show it to you.
• 1:12:01
  >> Please. Um, yeah, I decided to learn
• 1:12:04
  After Effects. That's the other thing
• 1:12:05
  Morning Brew is really great about. They
• 1:12:07
  will pay for me to take whatever class I
• 1:12:09
  ask to take. They're paying for my After
• 1:12:11
  Effects class. They paid for me to take
• 1:12:12
  two rounds of sketchwriting classes at
• 1:12:14
  UCB. Like, they are also really good.
• 1:12:16
  Like, I recommend any any like comic.
• 1:12:19
  Obviously, it's not like
• 1:12:22
  what you think of when you pictured, you
• 1:12:24
  know, being a comedy writer, but it's
• 1:12:26
  like we have a lot of people at Morning
• 1:12:27
  Brew whose like full-time job is writing
• 1:12:29
  sketches, right? I know a lot. sketch is
• 1:12:31
  about business news, but like
• 1:12:33
  >> that is still a fun job and so like I I
• 1:12:35
  I recommend it to a lot of people and
• 1:12:37
  it's also a way to like I have built
• 1:12:39
  this audience completely by working at
• 1:12:40
  Morning Brew.
• 1:12:41
  >> Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  >> Like that's great.
• 1:12:42
  >> Was Do you know if Dan Tum's the good
• 1:12:44
  work was that a separate show that he
• 1:12:46
  did and then like got folded into
• 1:12:47
  >> Good work was something that he started
• 1:12:48
  at Morning Brew.
• 1:12:49
  >> Oh, really? Okay.
• 1:12:50
  >> Yeah.
• 1:12:50
  >> Interesting.
• 1:12:51
  >> Um yeah, they basically were just like,
• 1:12:53
  "Hey Dan, your stuff has a really
• 1:12:55
  specific vibe and feel and what if it
• 1:12:57
  was like its own show here? Let's make a
• 1:13:00
  name for it. And then they made it its
• 1:13:02
  own show.
• 1:13:02
  >> Cool.
• 1:13:03
  >> Yeah.
• 1:13:05
  >> Um, it's like three years old now. It's
• 1:13:06
  crazy.
• 1:13:06
  >> Also, I won't keep you forever. Maybe
• 1:13:08
  we'll go to I don't know. I don't know
• 1:13:10
  how long you would like to go for.
• 1:13:12
  >> How about till I finish like this?
• 1:13:14
  >> Sure. Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  >> Okay, perfect. It's like that's my next
• 1:13:18
  really good stopping point. That's
• 1:13:19
  actually a perfect stopping point
• 1:13:20
  because I'll have finished this panel.
• 1:13:22
  >> Oh, nice.
• 1:13:22
  >> It's like a really nice clean ending.
• 1:13:25
  >> I'll have you reveal. We've kind of been
• 1:13:27
  seeing you do it, but I'll have you show
• 1:13:29
  it to the camera and stuff.
• 1:13:30
  >> I started filling in the I've got these
• 1:13:32
  holes here. Not the holes, but the um
• 1:13:33
  >> Yeah.
• 1:13:34
  >> So, I decided to just make those yellow
• 1:13:35
  entirely.
• 1:13:36
  >> I like that.
• 1:13:36
  >> And then maybe I'll do
• 1:13:38
  >> still got to do a body in the middle,
• 1:13:40
  >> right?
• 1:13:40
  >> I'm not going to finish this guy this
• 1:13:41
  time.
• 1:13:42
  >> Gonna have to come back for the next
• 1:13:44
  episode.
• 1:13:45
  >> Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  >> That's how you keep them coming back.
• 1:13:46
  It's a neverending craft project. I've
• 1:13:48
  honestly this has been like a great way
• 1:13:50
  to like I'll have people on and I'm like
• 1:13:52
  all right I'm gonna work on the I'm like
• 1:13:55
  I'm gonna start just using it as a
• 1:13:56
  chance to use the to do work on the
• 1:13:58
  thing I've been working on. You know
• 1:13:59
  what I mean?
• 1:14:00
  >> Right.
• 1:14:00
  >> Like
• 1:14:01
  >> no it's so fun. I always
• 1:14:02
  >> Sure. Sure you're here but I'm sorry
• 1:14:03
  what
• 1:14:06
  >> um it's nice. I always have to have time
• 1:14:08
  set aside to craft or else I kind of
• 1:14:10
  just like forget to do it.
• 1:14:11
  >> So my friends are like can you teach me
• 1:14:12
  how to do this? I'm like yes please come
• 1:14:14
  to my house and I will craft and I will
• 1:14:15
  like lightly guide you through that. But
• 1:14:17
  like mostly it'll just be time that I am
• 1:14:19
  forced to set aside for crafting.
• 1:14:21
  >> Now here's a silly question. Are you
• 1:14:22
  type A or or type would you consider
• 1:14:24
  yourself type A?
• 1:14:25
  >> Um it's it's a good question actually
• 1:14:28
  because I don't know. I would say I'm
• 1:14:29
  not. I would say I'm pretty type B. I'm
• 1:14:31
  type B but like the busiest type B
• 1:14:35
  person.
• 1:14:35
  >> Top five reasons I'm type B in an
• 1:14:37
  organized list.
• 1:14:40
  >> You're the busiest type B.
• 1:14:41
  >> I'm the busiest type B. I think a lot of
• 1:14:43
  type B people are like I can't keep a
• 1:14:45
  schedule. And it's like no. The only
• 1:14:46
  thing I keep is the schedule.
• 1:14:48
  >> Everything else falls apart around the
• 1:14:49
  schedule.
• 1:14:50
  >> Um,
• 1:14:50
  >> I was talking to somebody else about
• 1:14:52
  this. Um, where I I'm also very I'm very
• 1:14:56
  type A. Um, but I I'm very type A in the
• 1:15:01
  planning of it.
• 1:15:02
  >> So, like my like on stage I'm talking
• 1:15:04
  about like, you know, uh, harvesting
• 1:15:06
  clone organs or whatever, which I which
• 1:15:08
  I feel which I feel is a type B energy.
• 1:15:10
  Y
• 1:15:11
  >> um, but I've got that like in like a
• 1:15:13
  color-coded spreadsheet. Yeah. Do you
• 1:15:15
  know what I mean? And so there's like
• 1:15:17
  type A mechanisms in place to be type B.
• 1:15:19
  Yes. Do you're similar.
• 1:15:21
  >> Yeah. Right. That you have to have the
• 1:15:22
  things that allow you to um keep the
• 1:15:27
  chaos in the rest of your life. The the
• 1:15:29
  few things that hold you back that keep
• 1:15:31
  it all just organized enough. I really
• 1:15:33
  do love planning. That is one thing that
• 1:15:36
  I love. I live my life like almost
• 1:15:38
  entirely in the future. Um, and I didn't
• 1:15:40
  realize like the degree to which I do
• 1:15:42
  that until I went back and I was like
• 1:15:44
  home in the town I went to high school
• 1:15:46
  in and I ran into my therapist from high
• 1:15:48
  school. And I was like, whoa, hey, how
• 1:15:51
  are you? And I was like almost graduated
• 1:15:52
  with college at this point. And she was
• 1:15:56
  like, I'm great. How are you? And she
• 1:15:57
  goes, did you ever end up? And then she
• 1:15:59
  rattled off all the things I had done in
• 1:16:01
  the last four years that I forgot I had
• 1:16:03
  like planned since I was in high school
• 1:16:06
  that like I knew that's what I was going
• 1:16:08
  to be doing like throughout college. And
• 1:16:10
  like I did a bunch of like studying
• 1:16:12
  abroad in college. I like went to
• 1:16:13
  college in Spain and I like chose this
• 1:16:15
  program because you can like do two
• 1:16:17
  years in Spain and then like two years
• 1:16:19
  abroad from Spain. And so I did like
• 1:16:21
  three different study abroad semesters
• 1:16:22
  which was super fun and it was like the
• 1:16:24
  price of community college in the US. It
• 1:16:26
  was like a huge hack.
• 1:16:26
  >> Damn.
• 1:16:27
  >> Um it was awesome. And so I forgot that
• 1:16:30
  I had literally planned all of that from
• 1:16:32
  when I was in high school. And I was
• 1:16:34
  like, "Oh, I really do live my life in
• 1:16:35
  the future." Like, she hasn't seen me in
• 1:16:37
  like five years and she knows everything
• 1:16:39
  that I've been up to.
• 1:16:40
  >> Because you told her
• 1:16:41
  >> because I told her and I knew that that
• 1:16:43
  was what I was going to do. I do it less
• 1:16:44
  now because like I don't know, my life
• 1:16:46
  is becoming less plannable, but like I
• 1:16:48
  do still love planning things and living
• 1:16:52
  enjoying like thinking about what it's
• 1:16:54
  going to be like. And then when I'm
• 1:16:55
  there, I'm like, "Okay, yeah, fine. I
• 1:16:56
  already know what this was going to I
• 1:16:58
  already did this in my head before.
• 1:16:59
  >> Wow. Damn.
• 1:17:01
  What What do people not know about you?
• 1:17:04
  And by people, I also mean me, uh, from
• 1:17:06
  the videos. Like, what would people not
• 1:17:08
  guess about you?
• 1:17:09
  >> Um, I think that's a fun thing about the
• 1:17:11
  content I make. I have a lot of friends
• 1:17:12
  who are like lifestyle influencers, and
• 1:17:14
  I'm like, that is a nightmare because
• 1:17:16
  people really, really, really know
• 1:17:17
  everything about you. People don't know
• 1:17:19
  anything about me that I haven't chosen
• 1:17:20
  to tell them, which is so nice.
• 1:17:23
  >> Um,
• 1:17:24
  >> are you in the editing process?
• 1:17:25
  >> Yeah.
• 1:17:26
  >> Yeah. Um, yeah, I like
• 1:17:28
  >> we kind of made
• 1:17:29
  >> we dictate the edit, but I don't do like
• 1:17:32
  the leg work of the edit. So, I work
• 1:17:33
  with an editor and we go, "Okay, I think
• 1:17:35
  this section should go like this. It
• 1:17:37
  should include these beats."
• 1:17:38
  >> And then they sit there in Premiere and
• 1:17:40
  like actually spend the hours like
• 1:17:42
  >> accomplishing that.
• 1:17:43
  >> Yeah,
• 1:17:43
  >> that makes sense. We found a good eye
• 1:17:45
  contact rhythm right at the end.
• 1:17:46
  >> I know. That was really good.
• 1:17:47
  >> I was like, "Oh, wait. We
• 1:17:51
  not to point it out, but I was like,
• 1:17:52
  "Oh, we should have been doing this."
• 1:17:53
  >> It was It was worth It was worth
• 1:17:54
  pointing out. Um, okay. I avoided the
• 1:17:57
  question of of what don't people know
• 1:18:00
  about me?
• 1:18:00
  >> Oh,
• 1:18:01
  >> successfully avoided that question. Um,
• 1:18:04
  what don't people know about me? I
• 1:18:06
  really love
• 1:18:09
  um
• 1:18:10
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Your answer was uh Well,
• 1:18:12
  they don't.
• 1:18:13
  >> Well, they don't. That's such a good
• 1:18:15
  point. They don't.
• 1:18:17
  >> Um,
• 1:18:21
  they don't know. I That was a crazy
• 1:18:24
  noise I just made.
• 1:18:26
  Uh, I have this yoga class that I go to
• 1:18:28
  like every single Sunday night that is
• 1:18:30
  like the only constant in my life and
• 1:18:33
  the only like night of my week that I
• 1:18:35
  keep completely free only for that.
• 1:18:37
  >> Um, and that is like a lot of what
• 1:18:39
  allows I would say like the rest of my
• 1:18:41
  life to function the way that it does.
• 1:18:43
  It's like the perfect Sunday reset. I
• 1:18:45
  get it's 90 minutes of yoga and it's
• 1:18:47
  like decently hard yoga. Um, and it's
• 1:18:50
  also like decently spiritual yoga in a
• 1:18:52
  way that I like as like a as a Sunday
• 1:18:54
  reset. And I also think it's [ __ ] up
• 1:18:55
  if yoga isn't spiritual because it's
• 1:18:57
  like that's not what yoga is.
• 1:18:59
  >> Um core power is not yoga. Like that's
• 1:19:03
  not when you just act like it's like a
• 1:19:04
  workout. It's not that's not what it is.
• 1:19:07
  >> There has to be like a meditation
• 1:19:08
  mindfulness bit. Anywh who, I do 90
• 1:19:11
  minutes of yoga and then I go to um the
• 1:19:14
  same dumpling restaurant every Sunday
• 1:19:15
  night and I get soup dumplings.
• 1:19:16
  >> Which one? Don't Hey, be normal about
• 1:19:19
  that.
• 1:19:19
  >> Be normal about that though. Um
• 1:19:24
  >> um no, it's great. I I love my
• 1:19:25
  dumplings. Um
• 1:19:26
  >> I've got my I've got my address in a
• 1:19:28
  specific place online uh cuz I like have
• 1:19:31
  to for legal reasons, but below it I
• 1:19:33
  write Yeah. But below I'll tell you
• 1:19:35
  after, but below it I write be normal
• 1:19:36
  about this.
• 1:19:37
  >> Be normal about this.
• 1:19:38
  >> Um that Yeah, I have started or I got
• 1:19:42
  Morning Brew to get me um delete me.
• 1:19:46
  >> Um
• 1:19:47
  >> what's that?
• 1:19:47
  >> It takes all your personal information
• 1:19:49
  offline.
• 1:19:50
  your phone number and your email and
• 1:19:52
  like whatever stuff like you know when
• 1:19:53
  you like
• 1:19:54
  >> look someone up it'll be like those
• 1:19:56
  websites that are like people search
• 1:19:58
  sites that's like possible addresses,
• 1:19:59
  possible phone numbers, possible emails
• 1:20:01
  for this person.
• 1:20:02
  >> Um
• 1:20:03
  >> I've been getting a lot of spam and uh
• 1:20:05
  they'll be like, "Oh, sorry." Like it's
• 1:20:08
  sorry it's been a while and then I'll
• 1:20:09
  and then I type back, hey, what's my
• 1:20:10
  name? And they'll go, "Is this not Amy?"
• 1:20:13
  And I'm like, "Got it." Yeah.
• 1:20:14
  >> Yeah. Got it.
• 1:20:14
  >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:15
  >> Um
• 1:20:16
  >> I go, "No, it's not Amy. Here's my
• 1:20:17
  actual name and number." No, it's not.
• 1:20:19
  Oh my god, you're so confused. Let me
• 1:20:20
  help you find Amy.
• 1:20:22
  >> Oh, here's an interesting thing. I heard
• 1:20:26
  uh Nigerian um genuine businesses that
• 1:20:31
  are online have like a really hard time
• 1:20:33
  because of the association with phone
• 1:20:35
  scam culture.
• 1:20:37
  >> That would that make a lot of sense.
• 1:20:39
  >> I'm tell I'm like look at I'm like
• 1:20:41
  looking into that trying to I'm like oh
• 1:20:43
  wait I've got a chance now to tell you
• 1:20:44
  to do a video if I if I want one. Um,
• 1:20:47
  >> not that that's how that works.
• 1:20:48
  >> I have thought about doing like a call
• 1:20:50
  center. Um, and then especially like a
• 1:20:54
  scam. The thing about a scam is that me
• 1:20:57
  being like seeing if I can do a scam and
• 1:21:00
  filming that is it's like well am I
• 1:21:03
  breaking a law and filming it?
• 1:21:06
  >> That's always the concern is like I
• 1:21:07
  shouldn't do that. I shouldn't break
• 1:21:10
  laws and film myself doing that.
• 1:21:11
  >> Yeah. No, totally. which is so tough
• 1:21:14
  because I want to really bad.
• 1:21:19
  >> I guess that is the thing of like the um
• 1:21:21
  the expose of like the okay maybe
• 1:21:24
  factory farming
• 1:21:26
  um people don't quite know the full
• 1:21:29
  extent of it or how bad it is cuz the
• 1:21:32
  like it's illegal or they won't allow
• 1:21:35
  access.
• 1:21:36
  >> Yeah.
• 1:21:36
  >> So like
• 1:21:38
  >> I don't know.
• 1:21:39
  >> Sometimes I'm like I should just go
• 1:21:41
  undercover.
• 1:21:41
  >> Yeah. There was that guy at Vice who did
• 1:21:43
  great videos where he would like go work
• 1:21:44
  undercover in the Amazon warehouse.
• 1:21:46
  >> I was able to do it with um
• 1:21:49
  uh Uber Eats or Door Dash.
• 1:21:50
  >> Oh, really?
• 1:21:51
  >> Um yeah, I did a video where I like just
• 1:21:54
  signed up for Door Dash. Um and like
• 1:21:56
  that is the one job where like I could
• 1:21:58
  do the job because anyone can sign up to
• 1:22:01
  do Door Dash.
• 1:22:02
  >> Um and they like didn't really, you
• 1:22:04
  know, know what I was up to and then I
• 1:22:06
  like reach out for comment at the end.
• 1:22:07
  But
• 1:22:08
  >> what's your favorite video that I don't
• 1:22:10
  know I don't if you think of them that
• 1:22:12
  way or which or also maybe if you don't
• 1:22:14
  want to do favorite
• 1:22:16
  >> uh because I know people hate doing that
• 1:22:19
  but which one do you think uh needs more
• 1:22:23
  love?
• 1:22:24
  >> Uh
• 1:22:24
  >> which one would you like people to watch
• 1:22:25
  more?
• 1:22:26
  >> I do like the I think the hot dog one
• 1:22:29
  and the Door Dash one were like which
• 1:22:31
  have both done incredibly well were my
• 1:22:34
  most like hard-hitting journalism videos
• 1:22:37
  that I've ever done. Um,
• 1:22:39
  >> the commissary kitchen's idea. I never
• 1:22:41
  heard of that before. That's cool.
• 1:22:42
  >> Um,
• 1:22:43
  >> food carts are all put into like a uh
• 1:22:46
  >> where it's where they sleep at night.
• 1:22:48
  >> That's where they sleep at night.
• 1:22:49
  >> Yes.
• 1:22:49
  >> We see people driving away with a food
• 1:22:50
  cart at night. They're actually taking
• 1:22:52
  it to like a big place,
• 1:22:53
  >> a big warehouse that fills them back up
• 1:22:55
  with all that food. That's why they all
• 1:22:56
  sell that exact same muffin. Wow. The
• 1:23:00
  very last
• 1:23:00
  >> app. That's really good.
• 1:23:02
  >> I thank you very much. I'm very happy.
• 1:23:03
  >> You should not to add to your project
• 1:23:05
  and not to tell you how your project
• 1:23:06
  should go. You should add a um
• 1:23:11
  caterpillar and like a chrysalis or a
• 1:23:13
  caterpillar or a crystis on the other
• 1:23:14
  side.
• 1:23:15
  >> That's great.
• 1:23:16
  >> And then it's like the hat can reverse.
• 1:23:17
  >> Maybe can grow.
• 1:23:19
  >> Oh, on the inside or you talking about
• 1:23:21
  the
• 1:23:21
  >> I was thinking on the back side of the
• 1:23:23
  hat so it could like rotate.
• 1:23:24
  >> Maybe we'll do Yeah. On the three on a
• 1:23:27
  three axis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
• 1:23:29
  >> Did you just Did you just finish?
• 1:23:31
  >> I did. Nice.
• 1:23:31
  >> Can I have scissors?
• 1:23:33
  >> Yes. There you go. Score.
• 1:23:34
  >> Sorry if I just poked it. I normally
• 1:23:37
  carry around and I might still have
• 1:23:39
  them.
• 1:23:40
  >> Um,
• 1:23:41
  >> I have this like one pair of nail
• 1:23:44
  clippers that I've never used as nail
• 1:23:46
  clippers that are my like to-go crafting
• 1:23:48
  scissors
• 1:23:49
  >> so I don't have to have scissors in my
• 1:23:51
  bag.
• 1:23:51
  >> I got to get crafting scissors. These
• 1:23:52
  ones are kind of [ __ ] up.
• 1:23:54
  >> Okay. Reveal.
• 1:23:56
  >> Reveal.
• 1:23:58
  >> That's it.
• 1:23:59
  >> That's how you just wear it like that.
• 1:24:01
  It's just one.
• 1:24:01
  >> You just wear it like that.
• 1:24:02
  >> It's just one side of your body.
• 1:24:04
  >> It's like a scarf, but it's too short.
• 1:24:06
  Do you need duct tape?
• 1:24:07
  >> Yeah. Um, I want to show you there's So,
• 1:24:10
  this is the back panel. So, now these
• 1:24:11
  will connect. But, um, I want to show
• 1:24:14
  >> Oh, [ __ ] Okay.
• 1:24:14
  >> The best part of knitting is the
• 1:24:17
  accessories. This little gizmo that I
• 1:24:20
  don't really need for this pattern is a
• 1:24:21
  stitch counter. And it's a cool ass ring
• 1:24:25
  where you just like it can like
• 1:24:27
  >> it can tell it can tell your finger
• 1:24:28
  movement of like
• 1:24:29
  >> No, you have to click it, but it just
• 1:24:31
  stays on your finger so that it's like
• 1:24:32
  convenient for you to touch. And then
• 1:24:34
  you just like click it every time you
• 1:24:35
  finish a row so that you don't lose
• 1:24:37
  count because that's like the hardest
• 1:24:39
  part of knitting is being like what row
• 1:24:40
  am I on.
• 1:24:41
  >> This pattern is really easy though since
• 1:24:43
  it's stripes cuz it's just really easy
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  to count it back up, right?
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  >> But when they're all the same color,
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  it's like a nightmare to count it back
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  up.
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  >> Oh [ __ ]
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  >> So that is super useful. But it also
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  just looks so cool to have a little
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  gizmo.
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  >> Yeah, absolutely. Was that Was that one
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  of those things of like you did it all
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  one color and you were like this sucks
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  like count? I didn't intentionally do
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  this, but it is really nice and it is
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  going to suck when I'm doing something
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  one color again.
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  >> What? What does it save? Okay. Is that
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  currently on a number? And like you're
• 1:25:10
  going to put this away for a while. Come
• 1:25:12
  back to in a few days. You pull that
• 1:25:13
  gizmo back out. Still in the same number
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  >> now because the I don't think the gizmo
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  would stay that long. You would have to
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  write it down somewhere else.
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  >> Oh, gotcha.
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  >> Um the gizmo would reset. I think the
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  gizmo these pieces are completely done.
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  So I don't need to know what number
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  these are. Like these are done now. And
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  then so now I have to make one more of
• 1:25:30
  this piece that's like the reverse for
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  the left side.
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  >> And then I have to make the sleeves.
• 1:25:37
  >> Okay. And then buttons or something or
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  >> Yeah. And then I do buttons. So I have
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  to go pick out my buttons.
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  >> And then the other side is where I'll
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  make the button holes.
• 1:25:44
  >> Where do you the button store?
• 1:25:46
  >> Yeah, the button store.
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  >> Oh, you've got to go to the button
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  store. There are like several button
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  stores in the garment district
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  >> for real.
• 1:25:53
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some are like
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  literally called button stores and then
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  some are called like trimmings like MJ
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  trimmings.
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  >> Um will also have like zippers and like
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  you know other trimmings. But um
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  >> will this be part of the video of the
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  >> No, this is an unrelated sweater. This
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  is a separate sweater.
• 1:26:10
  >> Oh, that's right.
• 1:26:10
  >> This is separate sweater project. Sorry.
• 1:26:12
  >> That other video I just haven't even ed
• 1:26:14
  that one is that one is like pinker and
• 1:26:16
  like
• 1:26:16
  >> Yeah, that one is pink and it just has
• 1:26:17
  like one big stripe across the middle
• 1:26:19
  >> and it's made out of wool.
• 1:26:21
  >> And it's made out of wool. This is also
• 1:26:22
  wool. And this wool is also
• 1:26:25
  I haven't loved it. Can you tell how
• 1:26:27
  much grass is in that?
• 1:26:29
  >> What? Wait, did you get that?
• 1:26:31
  >> It's from like a smaller wool brand.
• 1:26:34
  >> Can I smell this?
• 1:26:35
  >> Yeah, this doesn't really smell like
• 1:26:37
  sheep in a farm. The wool that I made
• 1:26:38
  for myself really, really, really smells
• 1:26:41
  like a sheep.
• 1:26:41
  >> This didn't really smell like This
• 1:26:42
  didn't smell like that much. I imagined
• 1:26:44
  it looked like I was smelling a lot just
• 1:26:45
  now, but it was more
• 1:26:46
  >> But can you see the grass in it? like
• 1:26:48
  they didn't get all the pieces of grass
• 1:26:49
  out of it
• 1:26:50
  >> and it's like that sheep was like
• 1:26:51
  rolling around in the grass
• 1:26:53
  >> there straight up
• 1:26:54
  >> there's straight up grass in it
• 1:26:55
  >> like kind of like bits of grass
• 1:26:58
  >> they can't
• 1:26:59
  >> I want to hear the mic because they
• 1:27:00
  can't hear me but straight up some like
• 1:27:02
  small bits of grass
• 1:27:04
  >> grass in there um
• 1:27:06
  >> because the sheep was
• 1:27:07
  >> because the sheep was in the grass and
• 1:27:09
  then they just like didn't get it all
• 1:27:10
  out.
• 1:27:10
  >> That's crazy.
• 1:27:11
  >> I know.
• 1:27:11
  >> Oh my god.
• 1:27:12
  >> Um No, it's fun to remember that like
• 1:27:14
  >> And you spun that. Sorry.
• 1:27:15
  >> I didn't spin this. No, you said
• 1:27:17
  >> no. I bought this from a brand which I'm
• 1:27:19
  kind of annoyed with them that they left
• 1:27:20
  so much grass in it cuz it's like you're
• 1:27:22
  professionals
• 1:27:23
  >> and you know what you're doing cuz you
• 1:27:24
  cuz you've done it now and you're you
• 1:27:25
  know how this mine didn't even have this
• 1:27:28
  much grass
• 1:27:29
  >> and I'm not a professional operation
• 1:27:31
  that's selling this.
• 1:27:31
  >> So you think they didn't care.
• 1:27:33
  >> They didn't care enough.
• 1:27:34
  >> It's not that they didn't care enough. I
• 1:27:35
  like know the brand. They're just like a
• 1:27:37
  small farm. But
• 1:27:39
  >> um I don't appreciate how much grass is
• 1:27:41
  left in it. It's going to be like itchy.
• 1:27:43
  Like now some of it is like knit into
• 1:27:44
  the sweater forever.
• 1:27:46
  Well, that'll come out with washing or
• 1:27:48
  No,
• 1:27:49
  >> you can't wash this. You can't
• 1:27:50
  >> You can't wash hand knit sweaters.
• 1:27:51
  >> Wait, what?
• 1:27:52
  >> You shouldn't wash any sweaters.
• 1:27:53
  >> You should like hand wash sweaters.
• 1:27:56
  >> It can turn into felt. That's what felt
• 1:27:58
  is like. Um
• 1:27:59
  >> I've learned that recently cuz I met a
• 1:28:00
  lady at the airport and she was she was
• 1:28:02
  knitting
• 1:28:04
  >> like shoes. Yeah.
• 1:28:05
  >> And I was like I was like I was like
• 1:28:06
  what are you talking about? And she's
• 1:28:08
  like no I'm going to
• 1:28:09
  >> felt them.
• 1:28:09
  >> Yeah. I'm going to put it in in heat and
• 1:28:11
  it will solidify.
• 1:28:13
  >> Yeah. Like you know when you
• 1:28:14
  accidentally like people will be like a
• 1:28:15
  my sweater it's all shrunken down. Yeah
• 1:28:17
  that's felting.
• 1:28:18
  >> It turned into felt
• 1:28:19
  >> and it's like that happens with water
• 1:28:21
  and heat and agitation to wool. But so
• 1:28:24
  you really shouldn't machine wash any
• 1:28:26
  sweaters.
• 1:28:27
  >> Wool sweaters specifically or
• 1:28:28
  >> wool sweaters.
• 1:28:29
  >> I'm like machine washing this.
• 1:28:31
  >> Well that's a sweatshirt that's not like
• 1:28:32
  knit like this is like a knit sweater.
• 1:28:35
  >> Gotcha. Okay.
• 1:28:35
  >> Yeah.
• 1:28:36
  >> Um but yeah any like actual knit
• 1:28:39
  sweaters you should be handashing. They
• 1:28:41
  have a special kind of soap called wool
• 1:28:43
  soap that doesn't need to be rinsed out.
• 1:28:45
  So, you just
• 1:28:46
  >> like dunk it in and then you don't have
• 1:28:48
  to Well, it's like a very light soap.
• 1:28:52
  >> It's soap. How is that gross?
• 1:28:56
  >> But it's not getting rinsed off. I feel
• 1:28:58
  like I feel like I'd be I feel like I'd
• 1:29:00
  feel weird if I had a bunch of soap.
• 1:29:01
  >> Well, it like it like you let it soak
• 1:29:04
  and then I I sometimes do like one
• 1:29:06
  rinse.
• 1:29:06
  >> So, it does So, it does
• 1:29:07
  >> you put it in the soapy water and let it
• 1:29:10
  sit.
• 1:29:10
  >> Okay. Yeah.
• 1:29:11
  >> Yeah.
• 1:29:11
  >> You put it in soapy water and then you
• 1:29:13
  let it sit, but then you don't have to
• 1:29:14
  like
• 1:29:14
  >> It's not like dry.
• 1:29:15
  >> Rinse the soap out. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:29:16
  >> Gotcha. Gotcha.
• 1:29:17
  >> Yeah. You just rub a bar of soap all
• 1:29:18
  over this and then that's it.
• 1:29:19
  >> That's what I thought. That's what I was
• 1:29:21
  like, what are you talking about?
• 1:29:23
  >> Um
• 1:29:25
  >> Yeah. No,
• 1:29:27
  >> I'm finishing this guy up. Just get my
• 1:29:30
  here.
• 1:29:31
  >> I'm glad I'm glad I undid the part that
• 1:29:33
  I undid and I switched to the red.
• 1:29:34
  >> You frogged it.
• 1:29:35
  >> I'm so much happier with that.
• 1:29:36
  >> You frogged it.
• 1:29:37
  >> That looks so much better. You remember
• 1:29:38
  what the white looked like?
• 1:29:40
  That would have been a mistake to leave
• 1:29:41
  the white where the red was like peeking
• 1:29:42
  through.
• 1:29:43
  >> Like it looks nicer that it's just solid
• 1:29:45
  red
• 1:29:45
  >> and I've got
• 1:29:46
  >> you can see what I'm talking about.
• 1:29:48
  >> I do remember kind of. Yeah.
• 1:29:50
  >> Um I take your word for it more so
• 1:29:52
  because I'm not fully sure.
• 1:29:55
  >> Thank you for coming on.
• 1:29:56
  >> Oh my god. Thank you for having me.
• 1:29:58
  Craft.
• 1:29:59
  >> It's like a Yeah, you're an iconic guest
• 1:30:02
  as Zway would say.
• 1:30:05
  >> That's awesome.
• 1:30:07
  I I don't have like a catchphrase to
• 1:30:09
  pick up. And that's crafting.
• 1:30:11
  >> And that's crafting. Um
• 1:30:14
  >> outro song. She's crafty.
• 1:30:16
  >> Was it What's that?
• 1:30:17
  >> She's crafty. She gets around. She's
• 1:30:20
  crafty.
• 1:30:20
  >> I don't know that one.
• 1:30:21
  >> It's not about crafting.
• 1:30:22
  >> It's the most about this whole time.
• 1:30:24
  >> I know. I'm like, "Hello."
• 1:30:25
  >> Hello. Hello.
• 1:30:26
  >> Now I'm like awkward. I'm like, "Can't
• 1:30:27
  >> Well, you've had you've had the beanie
• 1:30:28
  on the whole time. I'm put mine on for
• 1:30:29
  the end."
• 1:30:30
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:30:30
  >> This is what This is beanie reveal.
• 1:30:33
  >> Beanie reveal. It still has some string
• 1:30:36
  in it. Okay, fine. It's okay. That's all
• 1:30:37
  right.
• 1:30:40
  >> Wow,
• 1:30:42
  that's really good.
• 1:30:43
  >> Thank you.
• 1:30:44
  >> I really love that.
• 1:30:44
  >> I appreciate that.
• 1:30:45
  >> That's really fun.
• 1:30:46
  >> Get covered up immediately by the
• 1:30:48
  >> Have you ever done not to level up your
• 1:30:49
  process here? Beaded embroidery.
• 1:30:52
  >> No, I didn't just learn about that
• 1:30:54
  though. I didn't know you could do that.
• 1:30:56
  You can like you put a bead on.
• 1:30:57
  >> You put a bead on as like before you you
• 1:30:59
  stitch it up and then you put the bead
• 1:31:00
  and then you stitch it back down.
• 1:31:02
  >> Right. I put like the letter I could
• 1:31:03
  I've got um I have the I have the beads.
• 1:31:06
  >> You're supposed to use little tiny
• 1:31:07
  beads, but yeah, you could do those.
• 1:31:08
  >> Okay.
• 1:31:08
  >> They would just be maybe a little large.
• 1:31:11
  >> Sure. Well, and I guess I'll Google it.
• 1:31:14
  >> You know, you have Pinterest.
• 1:31:16
  >> I'm on I'm on YouTube and I'm looking at
• 1:31:18
  different embroidery.
• 1:31:19
  >> Yeah, I was going to say Pinterest, but
• 1:31:20
  you got to learn from your form.
• 1:31:22
  >> That's right.
• 1:31:22
  >> People have gone before you and figured
• 1:31:23
  this out. I started quilting this summer
• 1:31:25
  and I went home to my grandma's house.
• 1:31:27
  Not to do another craft reveal now. I
• 1:31:30
  started quilting and I went home to my
• 1:31:31
  grandma's house and I was like working
• 1:31:33
  on my stuff and she was like, "Oh,
• 1:31:35
  you're doing all of this the slowest,
• 1:31:37
  hardest way possible." And
• 1:31:38
  >> right, old women know stuff about crafts
• 1:31:41
  that they figured out over decades that
• 1:31:43
  I should learn from.
• 1:31:44
  >> Yes.
• 1:31:45
  >> Yes. So true.
• 1:31:47
  >> I should also do that.
• 1:31:48
  >> Yeah.
• 1:31:48
  >> Thank Thanks for coming on. you I can't
• 1:31:50
  believe you
• 1:31:52
  >> have the time to do everything that
• 1:31:56
  you're doing as well as crafting, etc.,
• 1:31:59
  etc. Keep doing what you're doing. I'm
• 1:32:01
  excited to see more of the videos.
• 1:32:04
  >> Thank you so much. Rock and roll.
• 1:32:07
  >> That's good. And
• 1:32:08
  >> that's crafting.
• 1:32:09
  >> And that's crafting.