Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Robert Corona, DO, MBA, FCAP, FASCP, CEO at SUNY Upstate Medical University Hospital
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- 0:46This is Laura Dirda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:49podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:51doctor Bob Corona, who is the chief executive
- 0:54officer at SUNY Upstate Medical University Hospitals,
- 0:57as well as the John b Henry Professor
- 1:00of Pathology at SUNY Upstate Medical University.
- 1:03Doctor Corona, it's a pleasure to have you
- 1:04on the podcast today.
- 1:07Good afternoon, Laura. It's great to be with
- 1:09you. I appreciate it.
- 1:12Absolutely. Now I'm excited for our interview today
- 1:15because I know there's so much happening in
- 1:17the health care space and particularly doing some
- 1:19innovative things, at the university hospitals. But before
- 1:22we dive in, can you just tell us
- 1:24a little bit more about yourself and the
- 1:25health system overall?
- 1:28Yeah. A little bit about our health system.
- 1:30So we're,
- 1:31three hospitals. We're, a university hospital,
- 1:34a community hospital, and, Galistano Children's Hospital. And,
- 1:39the university hospital is in a urban area
- 1:42downtown. The community hospital is a little more
- 1:44suburban, and the children's hospital is downtown.
- 1:48We,
- 1:49work collectively 752
- 1:51beds.
- 1:5356 of them are in the children's hospital.
- 1:57We're the busiest trauma center
- 1:59overall for
- 2:01children in the state of New York and
- 2:03the second busiest adult trauma center. And combined
- 2:06makes us the busiest trauma center.
- 2:08And I think it's largely a byproduct of
- 2:10fact that we're the only academic medical center
- 2:12for a significant
- 2:13part of the state of New York. Pretty
- 2:16much the Central And Northern New York refers,
- 2:19trauma to us.
- 2:21We,
- 2:22we've been growing like crazy.
- 2:25We're
- 2:26about to embark on
- 2:28a big addition,
- 2:29and, we've been opening up satellite sites,
- 2:33in some of our regions north,
- 2:36west and east of us.
- 2:38So, we're pretty excited about the growth and
- 2:43excited about the future.
- 2:46That's great to hear. And, you know, it's
- 2:48always exciting to have that kind of growth
- 2:50mindset or to be looking in the future
- 2:52and seeing that pathway of how you can
- 2:54get bigger and continue to serve your patients
- 2:57well. Now when you think back to 2025,
- 3:00what was the most important initiative that you
- 3:02led? What did you do, and what were
- 3:03the results?
- 3:05So we had a number of very important
- 3:07initiatives
- 3:08that,
- 3:10I'm very proud of.
- 3:12So we've
- 3:14bolstered our quality group up and we have
- 3:17improved
- 3:18from a two star to a three star
- 3:20hospital, which is pretty tough considering some of
- 3:23the
- 3:24physical plant issues that we're dealing with with
- 3:27a hospital built in the sixties.
- 3:29But,
- 3:30quality is improving.
- 3:32We just were reaccredited,
- 3:36I guess you would call it, by magnet.
- 3:38We're now
- 3:39a a magnet hospital. We we were originally
- 3:43given magnet status
- 3:45during the peak of COVID. So everything was
- 3:48done virtually. This was the first time we
- 3:50had the magnet
- 3:51people on campus and we
- 3:53renewed our magnet status and we're the only
- 3:56magnet hospital in our region, so we're very
- 3:58proud of that.
- 4:01We initiated something called Respect and Heal, which
- 4:04is an initiative to reduce workforce violence.
- 4:08We've held a couple of conferences and got
- 4:10participation
- 4:11from a large percentage of the hospitals in
- 4:13the state of New York.
- 4:15It's yielding some,
- 4:17legislation, which we're very proud of. And we're,
- 4:21going to be having another conference related to
- 4:25work workforce violence.
- 4:27I share some best practices. We're,
- 4:30gonna be implementing a a k nine unit
- 4:32as a result of some of the stuff
- 4:34we learned at our previous conferences.
- 4:36And, we're doing some research now, some what
- 4:40they call
- 4:41photo voice,
- 4:42quality research with our, with our medical college.
- 4:45So
- 4:46very proud of that. And then,
- 4:49kind of a innovative thing that we're doing,
- 4:51we we have a a robust functioning
- 4:54drone and robot transport program. We call it
- 4:57our autonomous machines program.
- 4:59So we are fortunate that we're in a
- 5:02test site for
- 5:04the FAA
- 5:05for, drone transportation. So we've taken advantage of
- 5:08that,
- 5:09and we now regularly,
- 5:12drone transport
- 5:13pharmaceuticals,
- 5:15specimens between our hospital and some of our
- 5:18retail pharmacies.
- 5:19And we've now have
- 5:21done a few
- 5:23flights non line of sight,
- 5:25beyond line of sight, they call it, between
- 5:28a cancer center that's 35 miles away from
- 5:30our main laboratory.
- 5:32And,
- 5:33we're gonna be starting a drone transportation to
- 5:36a retail pharmacy we're building
- 5:39in a community about 50 miles away. So
- 5:42we have a we have a a full
- 5:44time pilot. We have,
- 5:47several,
- 5:48drone.
- 5:49We have a full time pilot that flies
- 5:51regular
- 5:52fixed wing and,
- 5:55rotary,
- 5:56aircraft, and we have pilots that are drone
- 5:59certified now. And we've we've done about,
- 6:03oh, about 6,000
- 6:05successful safe flights so far. We fly every
- 6:08single day,
- 6:10between our institutions.
- 6:15That's incredible to hear. And I think especially,
- 6:17you know, in looking at the ways that
- 6:19you have gone about just improving the workplace,
- 6:22making a big difference. I know that magnolia
- 6:25accreditation is a huge, huge accomplishment. And then
- 6:28looking also into the ways you're leveraging technology,
- 6:31with the autonomous machines program, and especially drones,
- 6:34it seems particularly
- 6:35innovative and interesting.
- 6:38You know, in setting up a program like
- 6:40that, what does it take? What kind of
- 6:41resources as well as skills and leadership do
- 6:43you need, to, you know, bring that type
- 6:46of program,
- 6:47and put it into place?
- 6:49So you mentioned that I'm a pathologist. So
- 6:51back when I came out of industry, I
- 6:53was in industry for about sixteen years as
- 6:56a medical officer for
- 6:58a a medical device company.
- 7:01I wanted to really
- 7:04ramp up our,
- 7:06transportation system
- 7:08in the pathology department. We were not really
- 7:10doing a great job of transporting specimens with,
- 7:13some of our
- 7:15our cars. And so, I started to think
- 7:17about drone
- 7:18transportation then. That was, like, in 2014.
- 7:22Everybody thought it was nuts.
- 7:24So I just kept, kept at it.
- 7:27And I think
- 7:28when I moved from a chair of a
- 7:31department
- 7:31to the CEO of the hospital, I got
- 7:33a little more attention
- 7:35and had a few more resources and just
- 7:37kept pushing.
- 7:38And with a little bit of luck because
- 7:40of our
- 7:41FAA
- 7:45research site in this area, we were able
- 7:47to leverage, that that position and start to,
- 7:51develop expertise in drones. And then we just
- 7:53started building on it and hired a pilot,
- 7:56then hired some engineers,
- 7:57and,
- 7:59really have
- 8:00a number of people focused on it. We
- 8:02also have robots in the program too. We've
- 8:05hired some people
- 8:06that were with,
- 8:08Google and their autonomous,
- 8:09machines division that have helped us with our,
- 8:12robots. And so we now have about 13
- 8:14robots that do various
- 8:16transportation efforts within the hospital.
- 8:19And, our next step is to give the
- 8:21robots and the drones to communicate so there's
- 8:23no longer a need for a human in
- 8:25the loop when we transport things. And so
- 8:28it's an exciting area. We're getting a lot
- 8:30of, interest,
- 8:31even from industry to,
- 8:34to work with us.
- 8:37That's fascinating to hear and, you know, really
- 8:39cool to be on the forefront of some
- 8:41of those,
- 8:42changes in transformation in the health care space.
- 8:44Now looking ahead, what are some of your
- 8:46big priorities and headwinds you're focused on for
- 8:482026?
- 8:51So the biggest priority is we got, $450,000,000
- 8:55from the state of New York. Thanks to,
- 8:57governor Hochul, who came to visit and saw
- 9:00how desperate we were for,
- 9:03additional space. We are way over capacity
- 9:06almost every day. But today, for instance, we're
- 9:08at a 120
- 9:10capacity in our med surg unit, and we're
- 9:12way overflowing in our children's hospital.
- 9:15So she realized that and gave us the
- 9:18the money to, to build a new emergency
- 9:21department, a new burn unit. We're the only
- 9:22burn unit for a significant part of the
- 9:24state of New York.
- 9:26And, also
- 9:27some additional operating rooms, imaging, and some laboratory
- 9:31space. So that's a big priority.
- 9:33There's a lot of paperwork, a lot of
- 9:35design work. The design team
- 9:37that we've cons that that we picked is
- 9:40starting tomorrow.
- 9:42So we're gonna be looking at the the
- 9:44new design of the, we're calling it the
- 9:46annex at this point, but it's really gonna
- 9:47be a big acute care facility.
- 9:50So that's a big priority.
- 9:51We have a couple of parking garages to,
- 9:54to build.
- 9:55We have more ORs to build at our
- 9:57community hospital and new sterile processing.
- 10:00And, we're gonna build two new ambulatory
- 10:03facilities,
- 10:05in the North and then one in the
- 10:06East. So,
- 10:09feel like I'm, I'm in the construction business
- 10:11because that's that's largely what, what we're focusing
- 10:15on in 2026.
- 10:19Got it. Oh, wow. That's, you know, that's
- 10:20amazing to hear. And it sounds like a
- 10:22very much needed,
- 10:23expansion in in, bringing in additional capacity into
- 10:27the,
- 10:28health system and and into the communities. I
- 10:30think especially, you know, when you look at,
- 10:32how important it is for more patients. I
- 10:35know it's expected to continue to to grow
- 10:37the demand of health care and the, access
- 10:39in the coming years. And so that's great
- 10:41to hear you're in a place where you
- 10:43can do that type of expansion and and
- 10:44grow your footprint.
- 10:46What do you think is the hardest thing
- 10:47that you'll have to do in the next
- 10:48year will be?
- 10:50Well, I also think that's probably gonna be
- 10:52the hardest thing, and it's just really to
- 10:54manage
- 10:55the growth and the capacity strain that we
- 10:58have presently.
- 10:59And, you know,
- 11:01Upstate New York is
- 11:03is experiencing somewhat of a renaissance.
- 11:06You may have heard that,
- 11:08one of the chip manufacturers,
- 11:10Micron,
- 11:11has committed to a $100,000,000,000
- 11:14investment to build four fabrication,
- 11:17plants in in our Syracuse Northern Suburbs.
- 11:22And there's an expectation of,
- 11:26at a minimum, 50,000,
- 11:29jobs either related to Micron or the supply
- 11:32chain or other, businesses that would be associated
- 11:35with that growth.
- 11:36We've heard,
- 11:38we we've heard estimates of the population growing
- 11:40by, 200,000.
- 11:43And also,
- 11:44Chobani, the yogurt manufacturer,
- 11:46is building a $3,000,000,000
- 11:49plant
- 11:50just east of us
- 11:51that's gonna bring a a significant number of
- 11:53jobs and then, you know, demand for health
- 11:55care and that's an area we serve too.
- 11:58So I think managing the growth and,
- 12:02not overwhelming our staff with the capacity strain
- 12:05we have is probably the hardest thing we
- 12:07have ahead
- 12:09of
- 12:10us.
- 12:11That makes a lot of sense. And, certainly,
- 12:14having that lens of the staff and the
- 12:15clinical teams and everyone involved, you know, being
- 12:18able to make sure that they're in a
- 12:20great position to handle that increased capacity and
- 12:23not feel stressed or overwhelmed is important.
- 12:26When you're thinking about those types of things,
- 12:28is there any, I guess, thing you're considering
- 12:31for the next year or planning on to
- 12:32really make sure that they are in a,
- 12:35great place, I I guess, in terms of
- 12:37clinician or physician wellness and those kinds of
- 12:40things?
- 12:41Yeah. So we're we have a we've appointed
- 12:44a a chief wellness officer who's an outstanding,
- 12:47individual who's
- 12:50a person who's scaling back her,
- 12:53cardiothoracic surgery practice.
- 12:55And,
- 12:56she's been a driving force behind,
- 12:58building some recharge
- 13:01facilities we have. So we have recharge rooms
- 13:04in both of our
- 13:06community hospital and our downtown, university hospital.
- 13:10We're doing a lot of wellness,
- 13:13education,
- 13:15initiatives.
- 13:16And,
- 13:17we're building,
- 13:19hopefully, some,
- 13:20exceptional,
- 13:22throughput operations
- 13:24centers. We have one big one that's
- 13:27built off campus that's been helping us with
- 13:29the load balancing.
- 13:32We have
- 13:33wellness people come in and speak all the
- 13:35time. We're trying to implement, I think like
- 13:37every other institution,
- 13:40new technologies that reduce the administrative burden for
- 13:43physicians and nurses. Like I mentioned, the, the
- 13:47robots have helped a lot with,
- 13:49the nurses having to run around the hospital
- 13:52and, some of the new technologies, for instance,
- 13:55that we're looking at, we're,
- 13:57we're hoping to implement in the coming year.
- 14:02Got it. That is helpful to know in
- 14:04great that you've got a team in place
- 14:06to really support the clinical endeavors.
- 14:09Before we wrap up here, I wanted to
- 14:11see your perspective on growth too. Where do
- 14:14you see some of those best opportunities for
- 14:15organizational growth, especially as you see the community
- 14:17continuing to grow around you?
- 14:20Yeah. So we we see it, like, I
- 14:22think everybody else sees tremendous opportunity for, growth
- 14:26in the ambulatory space.
- 14:28There's a lot of people that don't wanna
- 14:30come to Downtown Syracuse to see our specialists,
- 14:33and so they want access points,
- 14:35where they live. So we've been working with
- 14:38the community hospitals
- 14:40to provide services. For instance, one community hospital,
- 14:44has our general surgeons cover their service. We
- 14:48have,
- 14:49ICU specialists, intensivists, and in another community hospital,
- 14:53we have cancer specialists in other community hospitals.
- 14:56So we we see, multiple access points,
- 15:00in the region as as key.
- 15:03But, you know, there has to be a
- 15:04balance on that. We can't do all of
- 15:05that ambulatory work at once. And so
- 15:09we we do have to grow our inpatient
- 15:11bed capacity,
- 15:13you know, as well as ambulatory. So it's
- 15:15a balance.
- 15:17And we have a lot of regulations in
- 15:19in New York State being a public hospital,
- 15:21being a state hospital
- 15:22in the SUNY system. And so,
- 15:25the the growth, requires a lot of administrative
- 15:28work.
- 15:31I can imagine so. Doctor Corona, thank you
- 15:33so much for joining us on the podcast
- 15:34today. This has been really helpful to understand,
- 15:37you know, where you're at today, where you're
- 15:38looking to grow and go. And I'm excited
- 15:40to see you as well in April at
- 15:42our annual meeting. I know, you'll be speaking
- 15:44there and truly continuing to expand upon some
- 15:47of the things we talked about today, as
- 15:48well as share any new updates, at that
- 15:51time. So looking forward to seeing you and
- 15:53and continuing this conversation.
- 15:55Thank you, Laura. Appreciate it, and, appreciate Becker's,
- 15:58giving us the attention.