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Shooting bows w/ Josh Bowmar & Cam Hanes | Coues & Blacktail deer hunt stories | TAC recap · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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Welcome How? Are we coming?
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That's so nice. What, are you just going to be
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on your phone? All pod what I was finishing up
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That was aesthetic, isn't it? Aesthetic, Yeah.
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New merch coming. Maybe we start there, huh?
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New merch. Yeah.
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It's freaking badass. It is badass. 2 new hats, one
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new shirt. Damn.
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Yeah. Yep.
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Patch hat designed by yours truly.
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And a stitched hat. And a stitched hat, Yeah.
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Oh yeah. You're in fire Academy now?
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Yes. Tell me about that.
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It's fun, man. It's, it's good.
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It's I, I think it's, oh, it's a great way to get my foot in the
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door with the fire service and everything.
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I go to a college Academy right now.
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So Miramar College Fire Academy. It's about 4 1/2 months long, 16
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weeks. So about 3 weeks in now.
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Got 13 more to go, but yeah. Monday through Friday from 0600
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to 6:00 PM. You have to be there at 06
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something. Yeah, you could be there at like
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5:45. Nothing.
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Yeah, yeah. But it's worth it.
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It's like short term sacrifice equals long term reward.
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Long terms. What is it?
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What's the saying? Yeah, how does the long term
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win? Long term success, something
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like. That All right, Let me ask you a
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question. You just got on the news KUSI.
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Realistically Fox 5, what makes you feel like you have more
2:20
clout when you're in a new BD video or on KUSI?
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I would say that's a tough one because you know, I I can almost
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guarantee that Boat Disciples gets more views than these Fox 5
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clips. I would agree.
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But at the same time, there's some merit to just, you know,
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you're on the news, you know, like, so that's pretty cool as
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well. It's very.
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Cool. Let me put it there.
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Here's kind of how I view the clout scale, OK.
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I think if it was being on a BD video prior to like 2022, prior
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to that KUSI would have been more clout. 22 and after I think
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BD is more cloud. Realistically you're gaining
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more IG followers. I guarantee you.
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You know, which is really what it's all about.
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The boy he hits. Me with the tag most of the
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time. Most of the time, yeah.
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You know, Fox, they're not about that.
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So yeah. That depends if if you're
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looking from like a a local's perspective or like on a large
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scale, because like walking around San Diego might not get
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noticed if it's BD, but if you're on KUSI, they might be
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like, Dang, I saw you on the news last night because, you
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know, it's a local news channel. It's very true.
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I was very. Depends on how you view it.
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Very briefly on the news, it wasn't.
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Like did you have like a speaking?
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Role I didn't have a speaking role there's just a short you
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know what would you say? 2 1/2 three second clip yeah,
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but they running up the. Stairs.
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They put it in there twice, though they did put.
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It in there twice. Yeah, they did.
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That's. Nice.
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Yeah, I was in a Navy commercial once.
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OR. Recruiting the back of your
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head. The back of my head for about .5
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seconds as we zoom into the weather girl.
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Oh, nice, nice. Yeah, I've said.
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How did the weather girl look? Kind of give me a breakdown
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outfit high, you know, just kind of.
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Well, she was in her Navy uniform and she's in the Navy.
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Oh, so that's how she looked. When you say weather girl, I'm
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thinking. Well, we have weather, people.
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Red dress like. Little DeMar.
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Or something like that. Yeah.
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No, we have. Weather shout out to Aloha
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Taylor. Absolute legendary San Diego
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weather girl. She been in the game.
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I don't know what, I don't know what she doing nowadays.
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She she used to be on the big the big time.
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It's local. What's the?
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Weather there's multiple local channels I.
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Think it was Kusi. Honestly though, like that's a
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young girl's sport. I think she might have aged out,
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yeah. It is, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They're all young. When you work with them, they're
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all like, or you say that or they and they maintain
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themselves real well to look young.
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Yeah. Waxing and stuff like.
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That not necessarily. What?
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I'm. Oh my God.
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What a wild pod. Yeah.
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All right, well, today I have a list.
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OK, just so everyone knows, I have a list today and we've.
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I'm going to go through it right now.
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You're trying to keep your nipple covered.
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Don't try. It so.
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We talked about fire Academy. OK, next we'll talk about TAC
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Utah. Yeah, we've had a lot of fun.
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We had a happy, fun bunch. God, dude, and we made seven
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videos. That's a lot of.
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Content. Yeah.
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What's the record? You said right, the record for
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TAC. I don't think anybody's done
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that, no. That's a lot of content.
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Seven full length videos like not shorts.
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Yeah, you can't have shorts. Who knows?
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I'm in, you know. And we couldn't catch a break
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with this guy. Let's go through the video.
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I was running the the crew hard. Let's go through the videos we
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did. We did the individual contest,
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then we did the next day team contest correct 2V2V2 Next day
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we did the five verse 4 scramble I believe.
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Yep right. Is that correct I.
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Think. So then we did the random
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teammate channel video where you chose no, no, that was the same.
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Then we did the girls only video, the guys only video, and
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the video I did with Josh Bomar as well, which was fun.
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That was a lot of fun, Matt film that it was funny.
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I feel like both of us were like a little nervous, you know, and
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then like as before you know it, bro, we're shooting in the
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practice range. I shit you not a whole a whole
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audience had born. So we're shooting in front of
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this audience and you know, it's a lot of pressure about, you
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know, it's like when it's like when you have the news film and
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you're like, I really got to run these steps you.
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Know. But Josh was awesome.
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What was your favorite day? Favorite event of all the
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shooting we did because we did a bunch of games.
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I would say it was none other than the day that I was paired
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up with with old Scott Mackie, old Smackie, that was.
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That was a great day. I didn't shoot very well at the
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beginning. I lost all.
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I had a full quiver at the start.
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Missed. Missed.
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Did you? Did you?
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It's. Sunday.
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Wow. This girl's budget for takeout
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and coffee is absurd. Wow, I've been doing good.
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No, you haven't. Yeah.
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Yeah. What is?
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This I made dinner last night. Yeah, and we had rice and meat
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the other the night. Before.
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And we ate at your parents house and we cooked in then.
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I've had three nights in a row. It's three nights, man.
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Yeah, that's true. How long is it taking you to
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open this? Are you really just saving?
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Well, I don't like to just RIP the bag.
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You know my OCD on certain things.
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So I don't like the bag to RIP as it is.
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I ripped it right there. I only like to RIP the plastic.
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Not that I'm going to save this bag at all.
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It's going to go right in the trash after this pot.
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I didn't get a straw. So shooting with Scott was your
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favorite? Was my favorite, yeah, because
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I, I lost all my arrows, but won by target #12 I'd say.
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And then, you know, we still had 13 more targets to go and I
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managed to keep that one singular arrow the whole rest of
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the day and that was also a cool day because Bree, there was a
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crazy. I can't remember what target it
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was, but there was a crazy threat the.
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Needle shot. She slaps the tree with his
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arrow and we're like, oh, oh, she, she cooked.
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She cooked. It's in the tree.
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You know, we get there. Perfect 12.
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Her arrow skipped off the tree and bounced into the 12.
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That was crazy. And and what else was crazy?
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That was the only target I believe all day that both team
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members, it was her and Chuck. Yeah, they both got a 12.
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Both got a 12. We were the only ones.
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That had 24. Points that had 24 points and
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then we were one of I think 2. I think your team did it too.
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That got a 22 like a 10 and a. 12.
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That was I like the team day. I did like the.
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Team I think that might have been my favorite because.
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The morale was. Yeah, I was teamed with Whitney.
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She was with Chuck, you were with Scott, and that was with
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Ted. Hey, Buster.
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Classic. Yeah, that wasn't my best, my
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best. I think you see, you said the
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same for yourself. Not my best shooting at that
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tack for sure. And the whole like D loop,
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pinch, not pinch thing and whatnot.
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We did a lot of fixing things while there, but it was a fun
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tack, fun tack. 4 day tacks are always, sometimes you can look
10:03
at me like that's a lot of shooting.
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And then sometimes you just look at it as like, not free, but
10:08
like a cheaper vacation because you're splitting a room between
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a bunch of people. You get to go do things and
10:15
explore some. So I think it's fun.
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I like the longer taxi. I like the taxi.
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You travel further to Montana. Did we even?
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Is Montana on a pod? I know he.
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Was now in Montana yeah we missed all of them Montana was
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just as beautiful oh and you are from Montana so or lived there
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just. Felt like no one was there.
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It's kind of weird, but yeah. But it was a fun experience just
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because I'd never been to Montana and it's beautiful up
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there. What else was fun about Montana
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was the fact that our room became the social place.
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I mean, every night there was 20 people in our room turning up,
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dude. Like it was so fun.
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For my semi introverted self it was a bit much.
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Yeah. What do they call it?
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An Irish goodbye when I just disappeared into the bedroom and
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go to sleep. I think.
11:02
It's called an Irish goodbye, isn't it?
11:06
Something like that? Someone that can drop that in
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the comments? I'm pretty sure it's Irish.
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I'm not subscribed. Oh my gosh.
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Yeah. Come to think of it, I might not
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be subscribed. Well, guys, there's three of us
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in this room right here. That's funny.
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So yeah, TAC was a blast. TAC should look a little weird
11:44
talking about it, though. TAC should look a little
11:46
different next year. I know you haven't discussed it
11:49
with everyone yet, but as you know, like he's been doing a lot
11:53
of collabs, you could call them I guess and whatnot.
11:58
And so we're kind of thinking we'll play around with the idea.
12:01
This is my idea at least as the business manager, Agent CEOCFO
12:05
and and he's just the president who likes to show off his face.
12:09
So a lot of decisions made behind the scenes here that he
12:12
objects to and then eventually does.
12:15
My gosh, I'm just killed over. Yeah.
12:19
Next year especially at least the further away ones like we
12:22
plan on doing Pennsylvania next year for the first time.
12:26
It's kind of like picking a specific day that's, you know,
12:29
the group goes out and shoots all together and whatnot.
12:32
And then aside from that, basically we just should expect
12:37
that he will may or may not be shooting with us.
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They'll either be pre scheduled collabs that they're going to
12:45
go, they have a course scheduled to go shoot or, or you know,
12:49
like he had a few different ones that we just objected to doing
12:52
because he had already planned on the videos we had planned on
12:56
for Utah. So setting aside days to say,
12:59
hey, no, these are either on the spot collab days or they're pre
13:03
scheduled collabs to go film because, you know, at the same
13:08
time it is a business. And though they are fun trips,
13:13
sometimes you got to do business while you're there.
13:16
You know, I work in like a like a dog.
13:19
So she does. She does, she does.
13:21
But you know, I will say collaborations are fun.
13:25
Yeah. You know, like I've done a lot
13:27
and I got more coming that I think the viewers.
13:30
It's fun for the viewers because I watch a lot of golf YouTube
13:34
and it's always fun when like, oh, Bryson's doing a video with
13:38
Paige or he's doing a video with Grant Horbad or like whoever,
13:41
you know, it's fun to watch him do different shit.
13:44
And I think like in archery, it's been done a little like me,
13:48
Brandon and Josh and Tim kind of like, I think kind of pioneered
13:51
it a little bit. And then since then, I've kind
13:54
of done a bunch and I think that a lot of these ones I have
13:57
coming up, I don't want to spill the beans on them just yet, but
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a lot of these ones I have coming up.
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Dude, I think people, when they see the thumbnail are going to
14:03
be like, I've decided to see this, you know, like, so I do
14:07
think it's fun, you know, but obviously I love shooting with
14:10
the main my my core group as well.
14:13
So it's like finding a way to do both, you know, maybe in the
14:15
afternoon, shoot with the group and then I'm doubling the
14:19
content as well. Like you know, that's what I
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like about TAC is like number one, the videos do well just
14:25
because the titles, but #2 it's like, honestly a relatively easy
14:29
way to get a ton of content. Yeah.
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How many trips can you do where you get 7 videos not?
14:35
A lot. Not a lot.
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You know, definitely not hunts. No, you never know if you're
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even going to get one on a hunt. The hunt stuff like I just got
14:41
back from this Coos deer hunt and I did my best, you know,
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and, and I'm, I'm proud of the video.
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I think it's pretty good and I got fortunate that I the day I
14:52
shot the deer, I had someone on the phone scope.
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So like we actually got the footage and the shot and
14:56
everything like on tape and I kind of voiced over it like
15:00
it's, it's cool. I think it's pretty neat
15:02
actually. And I I like the view from far
15:05
away. Like it's a unique perspective.
15:07
And it gave a thought to future videos and the idea of A and.
15:11
Then like you and me, talk through it.
15:13
I think could be educational for someone who's never done his
15:16
talk before. But it's so hit or miss because
15:18
you hunt, you never know how hunting is going to go.
15:22
So it's like you could spend 3 hours and not send a filmer out
15:26
with you just to try to get it on a nice like, you know?
15:30
Yeah. Phone scope or whatever and it
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could not pan out. Kurt, you can still make a video
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out of it. Well, I think there's but.
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Other things could go wrong within it, you know so.
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There's certain things I want to improve one get like a GoPro.
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Well, we have one, we just can't.
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I got to find the GoPro and then do like some more POV stuff that
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way. Like worst case scenario, you
15:52
got the GoPro footage that's on your bow or your chest or head
15:55
or whatever. That's one way #2 is just
15:57
getting more B roll. Like as I watch my tape, I was
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like, this video is fine, but it could have been better if like
16:03
when I'm talking about glassing, put a clip in of me glassing or
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like and one of me hiking to the top or you know, shit like just
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simple shit to fill out the video a little bit more and that
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like tack going back to that. You don't have to do all that
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because it's all just like action-packed and the people in
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it or what creates the vibe and the humor or whatever.
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You have to get more creative with the video.
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Yeah, tags are a lot more predictable, at least outside
16:35
looking in like it's exactly so you know what you're gonna do.
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You know that you've time to film clips between every shot or
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all the shots. You know, pick and choose, but
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you never know when it you're just going to come walking
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across the Bush. And you might camera, you might
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not be ready. Yeah, exactly.
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And that your hunt might take 30 days.
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You're like, I don't want to film like every single update
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and then like, but you might tag out first day and then it's
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like, well, I didn't film a single clip.
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So it's like tough to know how to fill it out, you know?
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But back to collabs. How about, you know, Brandon, I
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got to meet Cam. That's good.
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Do a video with Cam. That was amazing.
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That's awesome. What did you think of that?
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Like, because you've see, luckily for me, I've been a
17:19
biker before, so I've I've lived through going and competing with
17:24
guys that I had watched in DVDs my whole life.
17:27
And I was like, Oh my God, that's Brandon Seminack.
17:29
And then realizing he's just like a normal dude like me who's
17:32
just way more talented. But for you, you probably
17:36
haven't had that too much. So what was it like to see
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someone? No, I'm not in the entertainment
17:41
side. I guess I, I think I've become a
17:44
little accustomed to it as like working with the Navy.
17:48
It's not uncommon, you know, to do like a tour with the first
17:53
lady or the CNO shows up to events or SEC NAV shows up like
17:59
these large names. So you get accustomed to like to
18:04
working with people like the whole of the United States
18:09
knows. But in the entertainment side,
18:12
again, it's like you're like, oh gosh, that's that's campaigns.
18:18
But then you're on the filming side of it.
18:21
So it's like seems somewhat normal, you know, because you
18:27
know that you're going to go meet up with him and whatnot.
18:30
It's not like awestruck or fan struck when you like come
18:33
across. I'm like, however many people,
18:35
those poor people like heard that video.
18:40
Do I read some of the comments and then I was like, I don't
18:42
remember that. And then you watch the video and
18:44
you're like, Oh God. But you know, for for people who
18:48
are not there or expecting it, it's definitely like, Oh gosh,
18:54
that's. Because you don't expect to see
18:58
either of us at Performance, you know, shout out to Performance.
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They were awesome. Really accommodating, welcoming.
19:05
So nothing but good things to say.
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They were cool. And I appreciate them letting us
19:09
let me film there, you know, like I've never been.
19:12
So it was, it was cool. But yeah, you did.
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You got to watch the video. It's priceless.
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That's me and Cam are going to pull arrows and basically the
19:20
concept of the video is it like doesn't really have any cuts.
19:23
So it's like basically just us shooting, doing games and then
19:26
like. Like kind of like a live.
19:28
Interview but more of like, you know, just chatting about shit.
19:32
But dude this is so funny I didn't notice while we were
19:35
filming. I didn't either.
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But there's this dude in a blue shirt who just like is awkwardly
19:40
like super flirting like right around us through the whole time
19:44
but not saying anything. It was so weird when he wants to
19:48
take and he became like a star in the video like if you read
19:51
the comments. The blue shirt guy, dude, it's.
19:54
Funny. And then and then like so he's
19:55
in there heavy towards the beginning and then he disappears
19:58
and at the end he makes like a return.
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He's back in the video. It was so funny, but but yeah,
20:05
shout out to Cam. I thought it was a lot of fun.
20:09
Obviously we were late on a lot, both bow hunt and long time and
20:14
I don't know, do social media, even though it's Tam's way
20:17
bigger, you know, and but I mean at the you know, it was it was
20:21
just fun. It was really cool.
20:22
Stoked he did it. And like I said, that
20:25
collaboration is I just think the fans, like who enjoy archery
20:29
content, probably love that shit, you know, get to see me
20:32
and him shoot off like that's fun, you know?
20:35
And so, yeah, tac collabs, all that shit has been a blast.
20:41
And then Brianna did a we stocked in nice and close to a
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buck on the on the. Coast, Yeah, Black Tail, we can
20:50
still say is on the list to get. I'm really hoping, you know, if
20:54
we cross my fingers the right way, just so the stars align,
20:58
we'll fill the elk tag early and we can just shoot over the fan
21:02
you. Can't say the place.
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Dad, I didn't say. I said the family place shoot
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over to the place again to try the second-half of the season
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here more in the the rut as we know for them up there, there,
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around there. Why don't you tell us?
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So how? When?
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So, yeah, James has a different view on this place than I do and
21:30
where we should hunt. And then we spent a few days in
21:35
the place James very much so enjoys.
21:37
Very dooney rolling hills. The hiking is not the problem.
21:42
The problem is there's no deer there.
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That's the problem. Yeah.
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I don't care how many years he's been hunting.
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There's no deer there, so I think we saw a total of.
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I shot this buck in that. Spot.
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And that is the only buck we've seen in that unit.
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I shot him. Into. 14 yards.
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Stockton shot 14. Yeah, that's not true.
22:01
We saw a spike. We saw a spike this year there
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and that was the only thing we. Saw there.
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I saw some, Yeah, those, those don't count.
22:08
I can't shoot those and we saw Ace fight.
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So anyways, so anyways, I said, look, we're going, we're going
22:15
over to this unit. I'm, you know, I'll take the
22:17
other car if I need to. I'm not staying here anymore.
22:20
You guys feel free to hunt pigs, but I specifically took off 10
22:25
days of work to come here and try and find a black tailed
22:29
buck. I did not come here to find a
22:30
pig. So I said he said fine, we'll go
22:36
to the other unit. You know, there's some
22:38
complaining involved, Buck, buck, buck, but they're just
22:43
bucks everywhere. We are driving in the car down
22:47
these roads where you can kind of look up and glass these big
22:49
giant fingers. And so the first one I spiked, I
22:53
stalked in. We just kind of jumped out of
22:55
the truck and stalked in. They jumped up, drop down into a
22:58
ravine. It was a spike and a very small
23:03
fork, much, much smaller than that.
23:05
My other small fork, he's are not in here.
23:09
It's so small that it was hard to tell the difference of him
23:12
and spike and but one was in velvet, one was not.
23:15
And when they dropped into this ravine, it was so dark in there
23:18
that I'm like I'm kneeling grass on the edge and trying to look
23:23
through the grass at this buck. And I was just like, I can't I
23:26
couldn't tell you James and I I don't want to shoot because I
23:29
don't know. So then I give him the binos.
23:32
He couldn't tell, but it he saw much quicker than I did and he's
23:36
like, no, that's the one. I couldn't even get to a draw
23:39
before. He's staring at us the whole
23:41
time. And so he took off.
23:43
So that was the first one we stalked in on time, just like if
23:49
it works, great. If not, he's a little little
23:51
forky. So then the next day we come
23:53
back, or maybe it's that evening, I don't remember.
23:58
And it is howling wind and it's on and off like rain and the
24:05
fog, like the fog is so thick. And James, of course, as always,
24:11
glasses up a buck down. And we came up on this plateau
24:14
and glasses big flat out in front of us.
24:19
But it's very like desertedly flat, like big brush and grass,
24:23
very like you look at it from up top and you look down, you don't
24:26
think it's thick. You get down there and it's up
24:29
above your head in in most places.
24:33
And so we're like, well, we give it a try.
24:35
I mean, the wind will be great and it's howling, but it's going
24:39
to have to be very close because there's no way.
24:41
I mean, it was probably 25, I would guess at least mile an
24:45
hour winds like very strong. So we hiked down in there and
24:51
James leads for most of the way and then we put me in front and
24:55
he's like, I mean like a fish on a, you know, pole just getting
25:00
reeled in to straight to where this buck we saw it was.
25:05
We get in there and you just can't he's bedded somewhere.
25:08
You can't see anything. You just kind of hope that you
25:13
stumble upon a spot where you can see it bedded before it'll
25:17
see you. And we get there and we're
25:21
looking around and it's the last, but we had seen him.
25:23
He's not there. So we're like OK, we'll just
25:26
turn and we'll go this way. And so I think we just got a
25:29
little less quiet, a little less serious and we put James out in
25:34
front now and sure as shit we take like 3 steps in a new
25:40
direction. He pops up.
25:43
James like said something to me and he's seen it running as I
25:46
like look over and it's already running.
25:48
I drew anyways, but there's no shooting it.
25:51
It was long gone. So that one didn't pan out.
25:55
So then we go back to the same plateau to look at the same
25:59
flat. There's another one, another
26:05
one. So I go, all right, let's try it
26:08
again. Almost in the same spot pretty
26:12
much. I think it might have been a
26:13
little further back. And we go in again, can't see
26:19
fucking anything. And we're just, we're stocking
26:24
and stocking. And finally I think James, like
26:26
there, there or something. And what did we see the spike
26:31
first? Is that what it was that gave it
26:34
away? I think so, yeah.
26:36
I think I did see a spike. So we we're glued.
26:39
We're stuck. Now this spike is just staring
26:41
us down. It's close like.
26:43
You. Start at 30.
26:46
I wish you could see it better in the video, but oh, you can't.
26:49
I got, can you this so we cannot move.
26:53
And this spike just finally like settles down just eating,
26:57
eating. Here's us, eating, eating,
27:00
eating. Maybe 12 yards to my right.
27:05
Probably more like 12 feet. Yeah, like he was ridiculously
27:09
close. I didn't.
27:10
I couldn't even move my head at this point because I'm like he's
27:13
got a spook as soon as I move. This is a very good lesson for
27:17
anyone who's listening or watching for anyone who wants to
27:22
try spot and stock deer hunting. This is a very good lesson
27:25
because that buck sauce for quite a while and but the wind
27:32
was excellent and deer as long as they can see you.
27:36
But if they don't win? I had an orange vest on and
27:39
everything. Orange hat, all of it.
27:40
If they don't win, yes sometimes they'll be especially younger
27:43
ones. They, they will be curious and
27:45
they, they will come in till either get your win or they'll
27:50
just come walk right up to you sometimes to see what like
27:53
what's going on. And if they wind you, they're
27:56
gone eventually, you know, he flanked us far enough to get our
27:59
win and he ran off, you know, but it's a good lesson.
28:02
Just because a deer sees you doesn't mean like if your win's
28:05
good, just post up. And it's not like we were
28:07
hidden, you know, there's tall, tall brush all around, but we're
28:11
in the wide open and a patch of grass like, and he could see us
28:15
plain as day. But so eventually he did exactly
28:18
that. He like fed back and then looped
28:21
back this way. And then when did so, he kind of
28:23
hopped off. But he's far enough away and the
28:25
wind is howling so loud that nothing else got up.
28:28
And James, like, get ready. He he, you know, spooked off.
28:32
So like this other one's going to jump up.
28:34
Nothing. So he's like, all right, let's
28:36
get down. Let's try to crawl a little bit.
28:38
No, at one point he did stand up and he walked and then he paced
28:44
back and I'm like trying to range, range of 70 yards.
28:48
All I could see is like here. So like there's no shot and I'm
28:54
not shooting this wind in 70 yards.
28:57
So he eventually disappears again.
29:00
And James, like, I'm pretty sure he bedded back down.
29:02
So let's get a little bit closer.
29:04
So we get down, we crawl underneath the bushes, get to a
29:07
new spot, stand up there for a while again, just stand and
29:11
stand and not move in. And James, there he is.
29:14
Now there's something James does when hunting with partners that
29:20
it's not the best. It's not the best.
29:23
And I'm not the only one that has this opinion.
29:25
His own father will tell him that he's tried to teach him
29:29
better and it just hasn't worked.
29:30
James has a habit of giving it the worst directions when
29:36
dieting someone, when there is a deer or animal in front of you.
29:39
The worst ever. Remember, it's thick as shit and
29:44
he's behind me. I can't look at him.
29:47
I can't move around and see where he's pointing.
29:51
He goes, it's right there, it's right there.
29:56
Where? Right there where the F is right
30:01
there, James, we're looking at acres of pot, acres of open land
30:06
with brush and fine. I'm just looking, is looking.
30:09
I finally look back at him. He's like pointing over here.
30:12
So I'm looking. All I could see was antlers.
30:15
I couldn't even see the head anymore.
30:16
He was in such a thick spot. It's like nothing I can do about
30:19
that. But I ranged, he was like 27
30:21
yards. So I'm well, I don't know what
30:25
to do. He disappears again, James, like
30:28
I think he just bend back down again.
30:30
So let's get a little bit closer.
30:33
So we move this way this time closer to where he was, get to a
30:37
spot where like this is, this has got to be it.
30:39
Like we're basically going to be on top.
30:41
There's a brush line right in front of us and then another
30:44
open patch. He's probably right on the other
30:46
side of this brush line. He's within 10 yards of me
30:49
somewhere standing there, standing there standing James
30:53
like, well, you want me to throw a rock?
30:57
Again, hindsight I should have been patient and I should have
31:00
just waited for him to pop up so he wasn't alert when he stood up
31:04
or when James threw the rock. I'm not as fast as James one
31:10
drawing the bow, not as fast to like anchoring and getting on.
31:15
You know, my pin on something as fast I should have drawn before
31:19
he threw a rock. So hindsight could have maybe
31:23
have worked out, maybe I could've maybe got my pin on
31:27
him, but could I have shot? I don't know.
31:31
He was extremely quartered away when he stood up.
31:33
But as explained to me, that is the best shot for me because I'm
31:38
going to go through a bunch of soft stuff back there, up
31:40
through the guts and into the vitals.
31:44
Yeah. You always want to aim for the
31:45
accent on the quarter. Shot.
31:46
Yeah, yeah. So I put up a clip.
31:48
We'll get back to it, but I put up a clip that mashed up this
31:51
pig. I was quartered away and he hit
31:55
it. He hit it like 2 inches right of
31:57
where he should have. But like, it's a very good shot.
31:59
His arrow went all the way through the entire pig.
32:03
Super, super lethal. And it's funny because you can
32:06
tell on the post, I knew I'd get a bunch of comments.
32:10
It's got a whole mix. It's got people that are like,
32:12
you shot it in the ass. It's like, well, now is a very
32:15
effective quarter to way shot. But then like the guys who are
32:18
really good hunters, you can tell in the comments are like, I
32:21
don't know what people are talking about.
32:22
This is a very good quarter to way shot.
32:24
Grant and Matt, like I said, he had about that far right of
32:27
where he should have. But either way, I mean the arrow
32:29
went from here all the way up to here.
32:31
Yeah, I mean, his penetration was we, I don't think I got it
32:34
on the film when I filmed it. But afterwards when we walked
32:37
up, he laid an arrow down next to the edge of the arrow that
32:42
was still in the pig. This much of his arrow is out of
32:46
the pig. Like his flutches are almost
32:48
touching the, you know, fur of the pig.
32:51
And it's so, you know, he's, you know, almost 6 feet 510.
32:54
So this much of his arrow is from butt to neck all the way
33:00
through that pig. So it's a great shot.
33:03
But my concern was this thing was legitimately maybe 11 yards
33:08
when he stood up. And with that brush being so
33:11
high and my bow being so slow, I don't know that had I hit the
33:17
brush, even trying to go through the top of the brush to hit that
33:21
quartered way shot could have knocked my arrow any which
33:24
direction and created a not great shot.
33:28
So regardless of how I've been able to get my pin on it fast
33:31
enough, I don't know that it would have been effective.
33:35
But he threw a rock, it stood up.
33:37
It's like I could have jumped on this buck.
33:40
It was so close and I was so mad after this was 2 plus hours of
33:47
just standing still mixed with like two sections where we maybe
33:51
went like, you know, 15 feet. That and it's cold and windy and
33:57
foggy. So this thing runs off.
34:00
I probably was at like 60 yards. This I just like put my pin up.
34:04
I just let the arrow fly. I was like screw it, let it go.
34:08
It was like 7 feet behind it like you could see cuz I put a
34:12
lighted knock on so you could just see it flying over here and
34:15
the bucks just run in this direction.
34:17
It made me mad. So best best part was Ted's up
34:22
there watching this the whole time we get back up there and we
34:26
could see this buck for a while. He was probably 200 yards away
34:30
or something. Eventually we couldn't see him,
34:32
so we just headed back up and, you know, asked Ted, Hey, do you
34:36
still have, do you still have eyes on him?
34:37
Do you see where he ran to and whatnot?
34:39
He's like, yeah, he's over there.
34:42
OK, let me look. Ted, this is not the buck.
34:48
I just stalked this. Yeah, it is.
34:50
It ran right over there. I saw it right over there.
34:53
I go, I know you're saying you saw it run over there, but this,
34:57
I'm telling you, is not the same buck.
35:02
And James goes, James, like you want me to stalk it, right?
35:08
Just go, Just just watch it, watch it happen.
35:10
He's going to go, he's going to get a buck.
35:12
It's going to be like we all suck and he's amazing.
35:16
So he takes off and I finally got eyes on this buck like a
35:19
couple times more. My buck had run over there to
35:23
another buck. So what was like it was probably
35:26
400 yards away. The likelihood we've been
35:29
stalking this thing for two hours and a freaking ginormous
35:33
buck. This thing was five times like
35:36
mine was a really nice like times like probably that tall.
35:40
I don't know like over his ears, but straight up from the ears,
35:43
you know, like average nice. This one again, how he does it,
35:49
I don't know like just magically it's his turn and there's a
35:52
monster around just every time. And this thing was like this
35:58
wide, this wide, this tall like huge, massive.
36:03
So he goes over there and I could see him in and out of like
36:07
the fog was like just straight, like opaque white at this point.
36:12
So it would roll across and there'd be like an open patch
36:15
for a second. I could see him like trying to
36:18
climb up this hill turned up. That hill was way bigger than it
36:22
looked through the BIOS. He come back down.
36:27
Nope. Go back up and finally I just
36:30
see him draw. I'm like, I think he's about to
36:33
shoot. I couldn't find the buck at this
36:35
point with the fog and, and I see him let down and I see him
36:40
draw again. This time I really see him
36:42
shoot. I'm like, OK, he just shot Ted.
36:45
He's drawing again. He just shot again, Ted like.
36:50
And then I finally see the arms go up in the air.
36:52
I'm like, OK, we're good. So Ted and I take a road that
36:55
hadn't been driving in quite a while, but is a road so you're
36:59
allowed to drive it. So we drive as close as we can
37:02
get, and then we get to this Cliff that looked like a little
37:06
hill separating fingers, probably 100 feet down, 100 feet
37:10
back up, but just like straight down South.
37:14
Ted and I, it's getting like almost dark dark at this point.
37:18
But we climb down there, bring headlights, flashlights and
37:22
finally meet up with him and you can take over from here.
37:27
Yeah, it was an interesting hunt because I I didn't hunt at all.
37:31
Like, you know, I never even was bringing my bow, you know, I was
37:35
just filming and trying to help each of them get opportunity,
37:40
you know, and this time it was like, all right, I guess is, I
37:45
guess I'm up to bat, you know. So I go out there like she said,
37:49
it was walls, you know, like literally it was, it was walls
37:52
to get in there. I get in there and yeah, man,
37:57
Drew, first time help draw forever.
38:00
Dude, it's so windy. I'm just like trying to get it,
38:03
you know, and it's not panning out.
38:06
Let down, get a little bit closer.
38:08
But I was out of room. I, I couldn't get any closer.
38:11
And so I drew again, held it forever.
38:15
Finally the pin gets there and I like let the shot go as soon as
38:19
I broke the shot. Like my bow blew like that.
38:22
It was. Disgusting dude.
38:24
And I watched my arrow literally kick sideways out of the boat
38:27
and go like so far to the right because the wind was blowing
38:30
that way and the small buck spooked and the the big one just
38:35
stood there. So I reload draw again.
38:37
This time my bow wasn't moving, you know, So I break the shot
38:42
and I hear it go and as soon as I let it go, I go.
38:45
That's it. That's a good shot, you know?
38:47
And I hear it go foomp and I'm like, oh dude, perfect, right.
38:50
So the buck runs actually doesn't really run, but he kind
38:53
of like trots down like below me.
38:55
I couldn't get another shot. But he goes like this.
38:57
And as he's going, I see my hit and I'm like, it's too high,
39:02
dude. I hit him in that like no man's
39:05
land back strap hit. That doesn't kill him, you know.
39:07
And I was like, damn, dude, like I, I knew I probably like, it's
39:14
a flesh wound, you know, most likely.
39:16
But I go down, I look for blood. Where I ran, I found some blood.
39:21
But like by some, it was like a speck.
39:24
And I'm like, I'll come back tomorrow morning like it was
39:26
getting dark. So we came back.
39:28
We looked for, I had them glass these things back these cliffs
39:33
and I was freaking in there. And it is when I say like that
39:36
shit is hard to walk. It's very, very difficult to
39:39
walk. So I'm checking it on foot as
39:41
they're glassing. I'm looking for more blood for
39:43
hours, dude. I cannot find more blood dude
39:46
I'm tracking like down this trail and a friggin rattlesnakes
39:50
just like right next. To me as he's sticking his face.
39:53
On the hands and knees, bro, there's this rattlesnake just
39:56
chilling. I'm like, damn.
39:57
So we looked I think total probably like 9 or 10 hours.
40:01
And by this point, like I knew by hour too.
40:04
This bucks, I'm sure he's fine. Like he's not dead, but it's as
40:08
a hunter to me. I'm like I'm going to look for
40:11
hours just in case. I feel like ethically that's
40:15
what I should do. So you know it's.
40:18
A glass of pie you could look in.
40:19
Almost like under every juniper. Because these are from really
40:24
walls, so you can glass it really well, you know?
40:28
And that buck was not in there. So, like, I'm sure he's alive
40:31
right now unless someone shot him with a rifle or something.
40:34
Yeah. But yeah, it was a great hunt.
40:37
I mean. This is how Ted's pigs.
40:41
Oh my God. Ted was there for pigs once he
40:44
saw that there were pigs and we could get on them.
40:48
Dude his buck fever with pigs. It was like watching me try
40:53
hunting when I was like 6 the first time I tried bow hunting
40:57
dude and I literally dumped my whole quiver just missing
41:01
Avelina by like this is what he looked like.
41:05
Dude. It was priceless.
41:07
He's shaking and he's going so fast.
41:10
And there's this one pig we had a we had got on a bunch of pigs.
41:14
Yeah, every time was fun, but this one time?
41:18
We found this one. I can't remember my.
41:19
Name We found this one white and we're up top and me and my dad
41:23
stalk in dude and we get right in there but like you could see
41:27
this pig's head, he's right behind the Bush like 15 yards
41:30
and we're just standing there but it's the black one.
41:32
I'm like dude, let's try to wait for that white one dude.
41:34
It's such a bad ass pig. So we're sitting there and then
41:37
it, but they were like kind of flanking our wind just a little
41:41
bit. So we're standing there waiting
41:43
all the sudden like they kind of spook, right?
41:47
Like because they got our wind, my dad starts running in like a
41:51
loop trying to get by the pig and I'm just, I'm not moving.
41:54
I'm standing in the same spot with the camera and these two
41:57
pigs literally as I'm standing there and he's like way over
42:00
there because for some reason he ran over there.
42:03
They come stand just right next to me, dude, but I don't have a
42:06
bow or anything. So then Ted comes running back
42:09
by me and he goes to draw. He goes to draw and dude, his
42:18
release goes off like halfway through the draw and me filming,
42:23
I got to pull up the clip I'm filming and I go, Jesus Christ,
42:26
it was so. Funny it was I was sitting up on
42:34
this knob like I'm 80 yards from them maybe, and I would like
42:40
pause. I'd start filming on my just to
42:44
watch it all happen and I just I see like I can see them.
42:50
It's almost like a walkway, like it's a an airstrip, you know, of
42:55
grass that they're up on high and these pigs are right here.
42:59
I'm like, I can see pig Bush then all within 20 yards of each
43:05
other. And I'm just like, what?
43:08
He's right there. What is he doing?
43:10
And it just takes off running and it takes off running back
43:14
and it takes the, the black one. Just he's now at this point,
43:16
he's gone. He booked it.
43:18
Ted started running after this. I mean, Rob, Ted probably ran 80
43:24
yards. Oh, my God.
43:25
After this thing, I'm like, Ted, what do you think you're going
43:27
to catch up to it? I don't know what.
43:30
Was happening, but it was the. Funniest thing I watched the
43:33
whole. I have got to go try to find
43:35
that footage because that might be the best short of all time.
43:39
Just seeing him draw and then the arrow go on, off and then
43:41
here, Jesus, it was so funny. And then we get him on this
43:49
other pig. It was actually the same pig.
43:51
No, Yeah. So we we went walking.
43:53
We left. No, this was like days later.
43:54
We get on the same white pig maybe like two days later and
44:00
we're kind of bumping the pig all day.
44:03
Finally, we're on this little glassing knob and the pig.
44:08
They're riding up on you. Yeah.
44:09
The pig, it pops out again and we're on this perfect little
44:14
high point. Well, that's what I called you
44:16
guys over. She called us over and we we get
44:18
over and this pig is walking. It's walking right to us.
44:22
Yeah, it's walking right to us. So he could.
44:24
Have stayed up on the knob and not move.
44:26
So I'm like, Teddy, just get on and and just stand there and
44:30
wait and the pig will come. It's going to come to us.
44:32
It's only 80 yards, so it's only got to close.
44:34
It's like a little bit more and you got a shot.
44:38
He decides to barge down the hill and then the pig just turns
44:43
around and leaves. And I'm like, dude, if you just
44:45
stood there, it's going to come right to it.
44:47
His butt fever was classic. That's hilarious.
44:50
That was, yeah. But there's a lot of it was, you
44:53
know, a very good potential. Obviously it wasn't a successful
45:00
trip, as if we went home with anything, but lots of potential
45:03
for success there this year was the.
45:06
Buckeye, the Buckeye, it was a very large black tail and I'm
45:10
I'm bummed. Obviously I never want to wound
45:12
something, but honestly, I didn't wound them.
45:16
That's a so that's like a cut that he's going to heal up from.
45:19
That deer is not going to die. So tough he'll be, he'll be
45:21
fine, especially. How old those ones are the big
45:24
ones like? Well, and I know that hit, yeah,
45:26
you know, like that's the worst hit as an Archer.
45:28
And that's why when he ran by, I was like, shoot.
45:31
And my broadhead, this is one of the downsides of shooting a tube
45:34
blade is like I saw it hit him like this so I could hit him,
45:41
you know, horizontally. Whereas if I had to hit them
45:43
vertically, that gets my my impact lower.
45:47
So you do sometimes get unlucky with like how it hits, whereas
45:51
like with A3 blade, it can save you a little sometimes.
45:54
So yeah, All in all, it's a bit of a bummer, but yeah, really
45:56
fun. I mean, awesome trip.
45:58
I would. Like to need to say I'm hoping
46:00
that elk goes, you know, as smooth as smooth can be and we
46:05
can take off to the other place since the season will still be
46:10
open there or open back up to go try again.
46:16
Just kind of be bopping back and forth.
46:19
But that's what that's what's next.
46:23
And then you went on your your your solo hunt, which you talked
46:27
about a little already, and I know you're excited to do that.
46:32
The whole, so the whole idea was James was going to, James was
46:36
going to rugged it out. He's going to camp, he's going
46:39
to solo hunt. You know he's going to stay out
46:42
and out of five nights, you know how many nights he camped?
46:47
1. One one night, first to eat, he
46:52
hooked up with some buddies. He didn't make it out to the
46:54
unit he was trying to get to, so he he graciously stayed in their
46:58
hotel room those two nights. And then the third night is the
47:01
night he did finally camp himself and made it out to the
47:06
unit that he was trying to get to.
47:09
And then and then he went somewhere else and then talked
47:16
to a buddy. He was like, come, come out here
47:18
where I'm at and and we'll go out.
47:21
I haven't gone out yet. And so then he drove over there
47:24
and stayed at the guy's house for two days and stayed in a
47:28
bed. It was a lovely bed too.
47:33
But so he won't, he won't have that for for elk camp.
47:36
We're going to link up with Matt and I have cow tags and his
47:41
buddy has a bull tag. So we're going to put a little
47:44
elk camp together and James is going to he's going to have to
47:48
stay in a tent and he's going to have a pop up shower and outdoor
47:53
kitchen. And I'm going to live the real
47:55
camp life. I'll.
47:56
Be the filmer. Yeah.
47:59
Yeah, I think that's pretty. That's that's about it.
48:01
Yeah. Yeah, it was a good hunt.
48:04
I didn't end up shooting that buck, big Coos deer buck really
48:09
big Pope and young easily, easily, which I'm that's my
48:13
first Pope and young Coos deer. That one right there just missed
48:16
by a tiny bit. But I'm also very proud of that
48:18
one. Very proud of that one.
48:21
But yeah, it was awesome what a stock, you know, stocked in,
48:25
shot him 32 yards, betted while he's laying down.
48:28
I've only done that twice, so not very many times.
48:31
I was very, I feel like my skills are really, really sharp
48:35
right now hunting, you know, and it just feels good to every once
48:38
in a while, get out and test your skills, see how you're
48:41
feeling on the hoof, you know? And then for you, I assume
48:45
you're probably not hunting this year with your Academy next
48:48
year? Yeah, not this year.
48:51
There's no time for it. Man, I don't.
48:53
Know I didn't even put in for anything this year because I
48:56
knew I'd be doing this and it takes so much time.
48:58
You should at least put in for bonus points.
49:00
Yeah, yeah. Because you can do just points,
49:03
Yeah. But either way, yeah, I know.
49:04
I mean, you know, short term struggles for long term success.
49:11
You know it's worth that's. What they say.
49:13
That is what they say. Yeah.
49:15
Yeah, absolutely. Let's see, Let's look at my
49:18
list. We've covered a lot of topics.
49:20
Yeah, this this podcast is basically Brianna's show.
49:24
She's she's had a lot of good info, a lot of good points.
49:29
Oh, you. You said tell the story.
49:30
You did told the story in detail.
49:32
People like the. Coastal Deep, the upcoming Coos
49:35
hunt, We glossed them enough. I talked about it now if you
49:38
guys want to know more about the Coos hunt, you can go watch the
49:40
video on the motorcycles channel.
49:42
I'm proud of the video go watch it drop a comment.
49:45
Thank you very much. So we talked about that upcoming
49:48
schedule. Brianna's got an elk hunt in a
49:51
week, 9 days actually, we're going to go out there, we're
49:55
going to hunt Elks. I will be filming Hopefully I'll
49:58
have a chance to film them too. And my buddies bowl is what I'm
50:02
really hoping. That's what I'm hoping so that
50:05
would be cool. Then I have a couple March
50:08
collaborations in October, but I can't I can't say what it is.
50:12
I can't say what it is. And then for you, I assume you
50:17
just have fire Academy? Pretty much, yeah.
50:19
You know, through December, mid-december is when it ends.
50:23
So once I'm done with that, start applying and start
50:26
figuring out what my next move is from there.
50:29
Yeah, life is but a dream. It's but a dream.
50:32
What else can you say? Look at us sitting here like a
50:36
happy, fun bunch. We really are.
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51:15
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51:26
Thank you very much. You falling asleep over there?
51:29
I'm sleepy. It's these chairs, dude.
51:31
Yeah, they're I can't pot in these chairs.
51:34
Too comfy. It's been a pleasure.
51:35
They're going to be great for elk camp napping.
51:38
Yeah. All right.
51:39
I guess that's it.