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The Bolt Report | 27 August · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: This is the Bolt Report.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening. Thanks for joining me on The Bolt Report.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James McPherson. Here's what's coming up tonight. Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 2: and Matt Canavan put the boxing gloves on to prove
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  Speaker 2: who is more conservative. Maybe they should just focus on Labor?
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  Speaker 2: I'll chat to Barnaby Joyce about that in a moment. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: you won't believe the vile insults the UN Special Rapporteur
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  Speaker 2: for Women has been subjected to for the crime of
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  Speaker 2: calling a boy a boy and a girl a girl.
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  Speaker 2: She joins me a little later in the show. And
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  Speaker 2: we'll cross to the UK, where a human rights watchdog
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  Speaker 2: has ruled that their already woke government isn't doing enough
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  Speaker 2: to pamper illegal immigrants. That's coming up shortly. But first,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanese must have wished he was back on the
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  Speaker 2: Bush Deep podcast today rather than at the Bush Summit.
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  Speaker 2: Two very different audiences with very different concerns. On Bush Deep,
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  Speaker 2: he was asked what he'd say about the Japanese Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister's melons. At Bush Summit, he was asked what he'd
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  Speaker 2: say to a woman whose rural property was being sandwiched
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  Speaker 2: between five metre high solar panels. We need to do
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  Speaker 2: better than that.
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  Speaker 3: You can't have, you need social licence in order to operate.
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  Speaker 4: Does it bother you that in regional communities, farmers see
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  Speaker 4: the Albanese government as the enemy?
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  Speaker 3: Well, what worries me is over-regulation.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't care.
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  Speaker 3: And we need to do something about it.
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  Speaker 2: And that, Prime Minister, is what social licence looks like
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  Speaker 2: when social licence has been revoked. How Albanese must have
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  Speaker 2: wished he could simply have been asked about shagging Kylie.
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  Speaker 2: But this was Bush Summit, not Bush Deep, and ambush
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  Speaker 2: was only just getting started.
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  Speaker 5: What message do you have for people here whose lives
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  Speaker 5: and livelihoods are being upended and they can't understand why?
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  Speaker 2: That I get it.
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  Speaker 3: We need to do.
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  Speaker 6: We.
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  Speaker 2: We.
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  Speaker 7: We.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what you call bushwhacked. How could the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, living at the lodge, possibly get what it's
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  Speaker 2: like to live with five-metre-high solar panels outside the kitchen window,
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  Speaker 2: wind turbines on the horizon and transmission lines through the yard?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly what part of that does he get? If he
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  Speaker 2: got it, it wouldn't be happening. Something else the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister doesn't get is nuclear power, which he told the
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  Speaker 2: Bush summit he would neither date nor marry nor shag.
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  Speaker 1: Unless.
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  Speaker 3: Find me an investor who's prepared to invest in it
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  Speaker 3: and then we'll take it more seriously.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a little disingenuous, is it not? You can't
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  Speaker 2: say we'll consider nuclear power if an investor goes to
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  Speaker 2: all the trouble and expense of putting together a proposal
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  Speaker 2: for something they know in advance is against the law.
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  Speaker 2: That's not a policy test. That's a bureaucratic booby trap,
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  Speaker 2: which is probably why Anthony Albanese likes it so much.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Bant may not be leading the Greens anymore, but
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean he's given up lecturing the nation on
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  Speaker 2: the evils of coal and gas. And it's not like
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  Speaker 2: he needs much of an excuse. Literally any reason will do.
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  Speaker 2: So with the arrival of bird flu, naturally, Adam Bant
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  Speaker 2: saw an opportunity to sermonise on fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 8: It's really distressing. I bet you're upset.
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  Speaker 1: I am too.
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  Speaker 9: Watching the spread of bird flu over recent weeks has
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  Speaker 9: just been incredibly devastating. One of the things that this
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  Speaker 9: has really brought home is that it is time to
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  Speaker 9: stop putting already vulnerable populations under even more pressure by
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  Speaker 9: habitat destruction and climate change.
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  Speaker 2: Just one problem. Bird flu is not caused by climate change.
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  Speaker 2: But I get the temptation. Honestly, I do. Climate change
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  Speaker 2: has become, I don't know, the Swiss army knife of
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  Speaker 2: political explanations. Whatever the problem, simply unfold the climate change
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  Speaker 2: blade and wave it around. I mean, scientists have blamed
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  Speaker 2: climate change for bumpy Jetstar flights. The ACT government has
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  Speaker 2: blamed climate change for potholes. And the World Health Organization
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  Speaker 2: has blamed climate change for bad hair days. So why
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  Speaker 2: not add birds with the influenza A virus to the
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  Speaker 2: list of casualties?
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  Speaker 9: Now is the time to stop bulldozing their habitat. Now
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  Speaker 9: is the time to stop opening new coal and gas mines,
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  Speaker 9: pushing climate change even worse. and making already vulnerable populations
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  Speaker 9: take that one step closer towards extinction.
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  Speaker 2: If Adam Bant is genuinely worried about bulldozing habitat, he
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  Speaker 2: might want to have a word with the renewable energy
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  Speaker 2: industry because there's an awkward little problem with the Greens'
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  Speaker 2: vision of an all-electric, all-renewable utopia. Wind and solar infrastructure
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  Speaker 2: doesn't simply materialise on pristine land after being delivered by
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  Speaker 2: a particularly eco-friendly ferry. It requires roads, transmission infrastructure, substations,
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  Speaker 2: construction and, in many cases, the clearing and fragmentation of...
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  Speaker 2: of habitat. Perhaps Bant could explain why bulldozing bushland for
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  Speaker 2: renewable energy, that's virtuous, while bulldozing bushland for anything else,
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  Speaker 2: that's an unforgivable sin. Anyway, then came the grand finale.
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  Speaker 9: We have a really significant opportunity here, right here, right now,
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  Speaker 9: to offer the best protection to our wildlife that they
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  Speaker 9: can have, and that means stopping habitat destruction and it
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  Speaker 9: means stopping making climate change worse.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's something almost touching about Bant's confidence that
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  Speaker 2: Australia possesses a giant planetary thermostat hidden somewhere beneath Parliament House. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: if Australia stops opening coal and gas mines, the world's
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  Speaker 2: climate will breathe a sigh of relief and bird flu
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  Speaker 2: will reconsider its travel itinerary. The reality is rather less convenient.
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  Speaker 2: Australia should absolutely protect wildlife habitat. And we should absolutely
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  Speaker 2: take bird flu seriously. And we should absolutely scrutinise any development,
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  Speaker 2: renewable or otherwise, that threatens important habitat. But turning a
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  Speaker 2: bird virus outbreak into another advertisement for the climate agenda,
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  Speaker 2: that's not environmental leadership. That's opportunism with feathers. Bant doesn't
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  Speaker 2: appear to understand that bird flu isn't caused by climate change.
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  Speaker 2: Renewable infrastructure can itself have environmental impacts, and Australia alone
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  Speaker 2: can't meaningfully control global temperatures by refusing to develop another
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  Speaker 2: coal or gas project. But at least Adam Bant has
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  Speaker 2: managed to find one thing that apparently has an easier
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  Speaker 2: time spreading than bird flu, and that's a climate change
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  Speaker 2: talking point. Well, the majority of Australians agree the Albanese
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  Speaker 2: government is horrible. What's their primary vote? Is it 29 percent?
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  Speaker 2: So more than two thirds of the country say they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't vote for Labor. The rest are split between the
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  Speaker 2: coalition and One Nation. And that seems to be the problem,
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  Speaker 2: the split. Now, it's an easy solution, of course. The
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  Speaker 2: two conservative parties, they could, you know, work together. If
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  Speaker 2: only it were that simple. Nationals leader Matt Canavan was
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  Speaker 2: asked at the Bush summit today whether he'd work with
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  Speaker 2: One Nation to get rid of Labor. And he said yes,
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  Speaker 2: or at least I think he did.
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  Speaker 4: I do think what we've got to do, the primary
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  Speaker 4: goal that I've got as leader of the Nationals is
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  Speaker 4: to remove this terrible government.
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  Speaker 8: They've got to go.
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  Speaker 4: That will be my priority and yes, I think I
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  Speaker 4: get along with Pauline. We need to keep the focus
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  Speaker 4: on winning seats off Labor because they're the ones that
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  Speaker 4: are causing the problems at the moment in our country
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  Speaker 4: and I'm happy to work with anyone to do that.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't exactly a handshake, was it? He thinks he
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  Speaker 2: gets along with Pauline and he's happy to work with
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  Speaker 2: specifically anyone, which is not exactly specific. So the question
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  Speaker 2: was asked a little more specifically.
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  Speaker 8: So if you fall a bit short, are you happy
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  Speaker 8: to work with One Nation?
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, I'll always work with the people that the
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  Speaker 4: Australian people elect.
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  Speaker 8: Just say yes, Matt. Okay.
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  Speaker 10: Of course.
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  Speaker 7: Honestly, if you want to get rid of the toxic
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  Speaker 7: Labor-Greens government, okay? I'm not as bad as them, am I?
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  Speaker 8: Do you want to be in a coalition with us?
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  Speaker 2: And so begins this silly game of we'll shake hands,
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  Speaker 2: but only if my hand is on top. It's political
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  Speaker 2: courtship conducted entirely through clenched teeth. Courier Mail editor Chris Jones,
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  Speaker 2: ever the optimist or maybe just a glutton for punishment,
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  Speaker 2: decided he'd go for third time lucky.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say you did fall a couple short in the
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  Speaker 4: lower house.
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  Speaker 8: Would your advice to.
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  Speaker 4: Angus Taylor be to cut a deal with One Nation?
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  Speaker 8: Should they have two or three? Do you want to
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  Speaker 8: do a deal with us?
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  Speaker 7: I'll tell you what we'll do. If we're two.
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  Speaker 8: Just say yes.
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  Speaker 11: If we're two or.
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  Speaker 7: Three seats short, and I have said this publicly, Matt,
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  Speaker 7: of keeping Labor out of government, too right I will.
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  Speaker 2: OK, so Hanson would help the Coalition and then she
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  Speaker 2: asks for reciprocation. You tell me if you think she
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  Speaker 2: got it.
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  Speaker 7: And if we're two or three seats short, are you
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  Speaker 7: going to do the same?
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course.
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  Speaker 8: Look, I've been there. I'm very glad to hear. I'm
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  Speaker 8: very glad to hear.
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  Speaker 4: I was there in 2010. when we effectively did defeat
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  Speaker 4: a terrible Labor government that was seeking to impose carbon
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  Speaker 4: taxes and lost control of our borders. And we were
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  Speaker 4: frustrated and only stopped from doing that by two country
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  Speaker 4: independents who were elected and went.
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  Speaker 8: For the Labor Party.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm glad Pauline will say that. If that's the commitment, fantastic.
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  Speaker 8: I agree. We won't be supporting a Labor government. There's
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  Speaker 8: no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time, I do think the best
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  Speaker 4: thing for the country is we need a strong government now.
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  Speaker 8: We need a stable team.
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  Speaker 4: And Angus, Tara and I have got a strong plan
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  Speaker 4: now to get this country back.
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  Speaker 2: So they kind of almost came together and then just
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  Speaker 2: as fast they pulled apart because nothing says united conservative
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  Speaker 2: movement quite like two conservatives arguing over who is more conservative.
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  Speaker 7: I've taken the Libs and the Nats kicking and screaming
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  Speaker 7: to change their policies, whether it's immigration, net zero and
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  Speaker 7: the voice. I was the first one to come out
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  Speaker 7: against the voice.
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  Speaker 11: On my gut feeling, it was not right.
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  Speaker 7: For the country, the division. APPLAUSE And the Nats came
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  Speaker 7: out two weeks after that. Who got the Code of
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  Speaker 7: Conduct for.
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  Speaker 8: The sugarcane industry? We put the Code of Conduct in place.
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  Speaker 8: Bridget McKenzie was the agriculture minister.
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  Speaker 12: Did not.
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  Speaker 8: She put it in place.
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  Speaker 12: Did not.
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  Speaker 8: And we have had a big increase in milk prices.
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  Speaker 7: You have not.
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  Speaker 8: I thought you wanted to work with us.
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  Speaker 7: Then on top of that, I got the Code of Conduct.
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  Speaker 2: Listening to Hanson and Canavan bicker about who was less
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  Speaker 2: like Labor first, I was almost inclined to vote Labor
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  Speaker 2: just to get some peace and quiet. Sure, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be able to fuel my car or afford a house
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  Speaker 2: or hear that the Rabbitohs have won without thinking of
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  Speaker 2: Jodie and Delbo celebrating, but it's got to be better
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  Speaker 2: than that.
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  Speaker 1: And really, that.
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  Speaker 2: Seems to be the problem. Everyone agrees Labor is the enemy.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone agrees the country needs a change. And everyone agrees
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  Speaker 2: the conservative side needs to win more seats. Yet somehow...
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  Speaker 2: The people who agree on all these things found a
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  Speaker 2: way to spend the entire afternoon arguing with each other.
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  Speaker 2: It's like watching two firefighters debate whose helmet is more
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  Speaker 2: authentically fire-resistant while the building burns down behind them. Eventually,
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson, well, she'd had enough.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, our enemy now, and I'm telling you who's ruining
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  Speaker 7: this country, is the Labor Greens. That's why we, as
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  Speaker 7: a conservative side, have to start working together. Stop knocking me,
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  Speaker 7: having a go at me, and start saying, it's not
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  Speaker 7: about us, Matt, it's about the people out there.
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  Speaker 8: The people they want to help.
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  Speaker 13: Look.
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  Speaker 2: Can you hear the relief in the crowd? Pauline's got
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  Speaker 2: them back on track. They're going to work together. No,
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  Speaker 2: too soon. Matt Canavan's still got a few things to
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  Speaker 2: get off his chest.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little bit strange that, OK, we've all got
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  Speaker 4: to work together, but you're all hopeless at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we put in place the sugar code of conduct, right?
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  Speaker 8: We put in place that.
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  Speaker 4: We put in place the Dairy Code of Conduct.
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  Speaker 7: Do you want to go and talk to Alan Parker?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I talk to Alan Parker all the time.
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  Speaker 7: You didn't get the Code of Conduct. I actually got
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  Speaker 7: that implemented.
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  Speaker 8: Matt, don't lie to the people, right? I'm always on
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  Speaker 8: the same people. I think we know why you're not
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  Speaker 8: on the same side. I think we've just worked this out.
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  Speaker 14: That's right.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm trying to work. I'm trying to work
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  Speaker 8: with you, Pauline.
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  Speaker 2: And there it is, the great conservative reconciliation of 2026.
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  Speaker 2: It lasted about as long as the politicians promised to
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  Speaker 2: cut spending. Joining me now is One Nation MP and
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  Speaker 2: former Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce. Barnaby, great to have
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  Speaker 2: you on the program. I am worried that your side
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  Speaker 2: of politics is going to lose the country you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to save because you're all too busy arguing over who
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  Speaker 2: gets credit for saving it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, look, let's go to the actual deal. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you want to have. Here we go. front page
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  Speaker 1: for James. If the coalition.
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  Speaker 6: Get close but are a couple of seats short and
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  Speaker 6: we have those couple of seats, they will get the
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  Speaker 6: support of confidence and supply as long as we get
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  Speaker 6: policy outcomes that obviously are front and centre. of what
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  Speaker 6: One Nation wants, getting rid of the climate change department,
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  Speaker 6: issues with immigration.
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  Speaker 1: That's a deal that has to be done.
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  Speaker 6: Let's say they don't want to come to that deal.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's not that we'll put the socialists in.
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  Speaker 6: I don't call them Labor and I don't call renewables renewables.
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  Speaker 1: They're intermittent power.
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  Speaker 6: But then, of course, you don't get confidence in supply
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  Speaker 6: and it's chaotic and you have to work out every
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  Speaker 6: day whether you're going to be the government.
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  Speaker 1: And nobody wants that. We want confidence.
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  Speaker 6: We want a solid removal of the socialists, which are
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  Speaker 6: the Labor Party.
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  Speaker 1: What, of course, is the quid pro quo.
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  Speaker 6: Is if we get close in One Nation and we
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  Speaker 6: need a couple of seats, we expect the coalition to
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  Speaker 6: do the same deal and say, okay, we'll give you
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  Speaker 6: our support so you can be in.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't want this, oh, well, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: go back.
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  Speaker 6: You know, if you guys get really close and you
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  Speaker 6: need a couple of us, well, the deal's off. But
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  Speaker 6: if we get close and we need a couple of you,
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  Speaker 6: the deal's on because that's Obviously, that's ridiculous. We've got
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  Speaker 6: to get rid of the socialists. The socialists are destroying
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  Speaker 6: our country. The socialists have given us intermittent power. The
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  Speaker 6: socialists have given us a trillion dollars in debt. The
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  Speaker 6: socialists have given the wind towers and the solar panels.
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  Speaker 6: The socialists have basically given us record insolvencies in small business.
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  Speaker 6: The socialists have brought about this sort of equivalence of,
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  Speaker 6: you know, transgender and social experimentation. The socialists gave us
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  Speaker 6: the social disharmony that we see in so many sections
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  Speaker 6: of Australian society.
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  Speaker 1: And so we want to get rid of the socialists.
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  Speaker 1: And that's as clear as that.
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  Speaker 6: And there you go. If you're close, you need a
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  Speaker 6: couple of seats. You've got them and supply and confidence
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  Speaker 6: because that's what you really want. As long as we
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  Speaker 6: can do the serious policy issues that obviously one nation
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  Speaker 6: would be taking to an election. Not only that, we
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  Speaker 6: don't want a coalition so you get all the prizes.
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  Speaker 6: You get all the people on the blue carpet, you
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  Speaker 6: get all the ministries, all the big pay packets, all
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  Speaker 6: the being called honourable, all the $ 400, 000 a year.
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  Speaker 1: Salaries, the lot. We don't want them. What we want
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  Speaker 1: is policy outcomes in One Nation. And, you know, we...
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, James. I can't really be more
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  Speaker 1: straight than that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was pretty straight. So that's why I can't
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  Speaker 2: understand the public displays that we saw today, which I
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: would think are pretty unhelpful to the conservative cause... What
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  Speaker 2: you've just described sounds pretty straightforward. Have there been talks
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes to that effect?
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  Speaker 6: I've put it out publicly and Pauline's put it out
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  Speaker 6: publicly and she did it again this evening. She said, well,
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  Speaker 6: if you need a couple of seats, of.
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  Speaker 1: Course we're going to work with you to get rid
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  Speaker 1: of the socialists.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we're the most conservative party around.
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  Speaker 1: Of course we're going to do it. But we get
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  Speaker 1: worried when we say we'll work with anybody who wants
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of Labor. Well, Matt, the Greens want
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of Labor. You're going to work with them?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I'll be frank with you, as much as I'd
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  Speaker 6: tear my soul to pieces, I'd work with Labor to
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  Speaker 6: get rid of the Greens.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't work with the Greens to get rid of Labor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, sorry, just one more question on this.
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  Speaker 2: You say that you've said it publicly, Pauline Hanson has
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  Speaker 2: said it publicly. I get all that, but has it
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  Speaker 2: been said over a private cup of coffee?
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  Speaker 6: I have serious people in business and everything. They want
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  Speaker 6: this sorted. The public want it sorted. And, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think we've been completely transparent. As I've said, I'll
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  Speaker 6: repeat it. If they need a couple of seats, then
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  Speaker 6: they will get confidence and supply, which is really... You
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: don't actually get the seats. You get confidence and supply
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: and the support. And as long as we get our
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: policy outcomes. And then you, being the Coalition... Get all.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: The ministries, right?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: We don't want anything.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: But if it's the other way around, we want the
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: same deal.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Just to be clear, what would be the... Can you
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: name three or four absolute musts that One Nation would
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: demand for such a deal? So get rid of the
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Climate Change Department, that would be one.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Get rid of the Climate Change Department, scrap the capacity
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: investment schemes, lock into our immigration numbers.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm not.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: sort of going to sort of go into where really
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: it's the leader's job, it's Pauline's job. I'm not going
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: to sort of rain on her parade, but you can
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: see it in the issues that we talk about all
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: the time. You know, we're big on dams. We want
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: to have that infrastructure there. We want coal-fired power back.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: And these are the things. And they're really, what are they?
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: They're just about getting Australia strong again, making Australia as
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: strong as possible, as quickly as possible, getting our defence
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: force up and running in a form that's formidable and
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: can protect this beautiful, incredible nation that we all love. Look,
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: we want to get rid of the socialists. We're not
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: there to help the socialists. We're there to get rid
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: of the socialists.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't expect the Liberal Party to balk at many
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: of those things. Are the Coalition and One Nation pretty
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: much the same?
• 18:11
  Speaker 13: No.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: No, they're not. Look, I'm being as honest as I can.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: The Coalition are to the left of One Nation, right,
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: without a shadow of a doubt. They have a moderate
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: faction within the coalition. That's all right. They're representing their constituency.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: And we are 100% conservative. We say things that they're
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: probably not prepared to say. We say that Australia is
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: based on a Christian ethos. The fundamental kernel of Australia
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: is not atheism, it's not Buddhism, it's not Hinduism. It's
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: not Islam, it's Christianity. And that means you're tolerant and
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: we accept other things. We don't believe in the climate
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: change department at all. We want it completely gone. Basically,
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: we want our money back for what we've peed up
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: against the wall, chasing this crazy idea that we're changing
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: the weather. And we want sort of a defence force
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: that is unambiguous. We want nuclear power. There's a lot
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: of people in the Liberal Party who don't want nuclear power.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: They might have sort of agreed to it, but they
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: don't want it. We want coal-fired power stations back. We
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: want to run coal-fired power stations. And there are a
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: lot of people in the Coalition who don't believe in
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: coal-fired power stations because they've got to try.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: And keep sort of an enlightened group on board. They believe.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: And they were always worried in the Coalition about teal seats.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: You know, that's their great fear, the fear of the teals. And,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: you know, our fear is socialism, not teals.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Well, Barnaby Joyce, you've put it all on the table,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: so I look forward to hearing from Matt Canavan at
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the first opportunity and Angus Taylor. Appreciate you joining me tonight.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Coming up after the break, the fight
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: for women's safety continues. I'll talk to the United Nations
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Special Rapporteur on Women's Safety, after this. Well, believe it
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: or not, there was a time when the word woman
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: was a reasonably straightforward term. These days it requires a
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: legal team, a sociology degree and an Olympic medal in
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: mental gymnastics to define.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Can you provide a definition for the word woman? Woman.
• 20:12
  Speaker 11: Can I provide a definition?
• 20:14
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 11: I can't.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: You can't?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Not in this context. I'm not a biologist. And I'm
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: not a park ranger, but I sure as heck know
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: what a bear is. Just how insane have things become? Well,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: this week in the United States, Ennis Cantor freedom was
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: ejected from a WNBA game after wearing a T-shirt that
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: defined a woman as, and I quote, an adult human female.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Apparently the biological definition of half the human race is
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: now sufficiently provocative to have you berated by athletes and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: apprehended by security. at a women's sporting event, no less.
• 20:52
  Speaker 13: And right before the break, this was the scene inside
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: Wintrust Arena after Natasha Cloud got that bucket. She wanted
• 21:00
  Speaker 13: her voice heard. We have talked about the conversations surrounding
• 21:07
  Speaker 13: the W. That is Enos Cantor in the building today.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Not to be outdone, our friends in the UK have
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: issued gender-fluid police officers with male and female identification cards
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: so they can identify as a man one day and
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: as a female the next, depending on who they're strip-searching. Honestly,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: if you can't work out whether you're Chief Inspector Arthur
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: or Chief Inspector Martha... Should you really be carrying a gun?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And let's not laugh too hard at those overseas, because
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: our own government just asked us via the national census
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: if our gender had changed since we were born. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: if you dare speak against any of this madness, will
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you get suspended from your job like Queensland psychiatrist Dr
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Gillian Spencer, or you get fined thousands of dollars like
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: New South Wales mum Kiralee Smith, or you get death
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: threats like women's rights advocate Sel Grover? Another woman who's
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: been the subject of intimidation and threats for daring to
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: speak out on this issue is United Nations Special Rapporteur
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: on Violence Against Women and Girls, Reem El-Salam, and she
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: joins me now. Reem, thanks so much for coming on
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the program. I want to get to the trans issues
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in a moment, but you're actually in Australia speaking about surrogacy.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Why is that issue particularly important right now?
• 22:25
  Speaker 12: Yes, thank you for having me, James. Indeed, I was
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: invited to attend a conference organized by a civil society
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: on the issue of surrogacy. It's an issue that I've
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: also written a whole report on, how it relates to
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: the human rights of women who act as surrogates and
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: also children born through surrogacy. And the reason it's relevant is,
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: of course, your governments and at federal but also at
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: state level are discussing amendments to the surrogacy laws. And
• 22:59
  Speaker 12: we're seeing this actually in many parts of the world.
• 23:02
  Speaker 12: And I think it's extremely important not to rush through
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: anything and to look at the data and to look
• 23:08
  Speaker 12: at the experiences of those in surrogacy, because, as I
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: argue in my report, It's actually a system of exploitation
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: and abuse of women and children. And so it is
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: very important that we are aware of this and we
• 23:24
  Speaker 12: do not rush into anything that normalises such exploitation.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: You've been called a transphobe, a fascist and worse for
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: daring to state the bleeding obvious on issues of sex
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and gender. Has the level of abuse since you started
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: speaking out on those issues surprised you?
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: So I was not naive to think that there would
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: be no, let's say, reactions or negative reactions. But I
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: have to say that the intensity and the vileness of
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: the reactions by a number of stakeholders accompanied by misinformation
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: and disinformation, actually, about what my position is and is not,
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: has really surprised me. It's also surprised me how much
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: pressure governments have come under, civil society organizations, women and victims,
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: not to engage with me because of my position. So
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: I've had doors shut. I've had people told not to
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: meet with me because I'm supposedly all the things that
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: you've just said.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: With this particular issue, why now? Why has the issue
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: of transgenderism suddenly taken on such prominence in our culture?
• 24:43
  Speaker 12: Women and girls, but also their male allies, who would
• 24:46
  Speaker 12: talk about their sex-based needs, who would express concerns about
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: the way in which sex and gender and gender identity
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: are being conflated, have been hounded, have been attacked, continue
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: to be you know, pushed out of their jobs, continue
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: to be accused of horrendous things like being Nazis and
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: colonial and all the other issues. So it was very difficult, actually,
• 25:18
  Speaker 12: to have a sensible data-informed, science-respectful discussion around these issues.
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: And it was difficult also, therefore, to discuss laws that
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: erased sex and the specificity of sex and that therefore
• 25:36
  Speaker 12: conflated also sex and gender.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: And it still is.
• 25:41
  Speaker 12: Difficult, but at least we are starting to have the
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: conversation Parliaments are starting to debate and look at evidence
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: and look at consequences for women and girls and also
• 25:53
  Speaker 12: to allowing the voices of women and women and girls
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: to be heard on these things.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: It seems to me like this madness would end immediately
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: if women simply refused to play along. But time and again,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: we see women supporting trans ideology that removes the rights
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: of females. In the US, you've got WNBA players, for instance,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: saying they would welcome trans women playing in the Women's League.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And I could go on. I don't understand why so
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: many women who have everything to lose are so supportive
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: of trans ideology. What's going on there?
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: Like any issue, you know, there's a lot of feelings
• 26:32
  Speaker 12: around it. It provokes a lot of emotions. People have
• 26:35
  Speaker 12: very strong views on it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: Some of it is.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Ideas and issues you get.
• 26:41
  Speaker 12: Exposed to very early on in schools or at universities
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: in some countries. But I personally also think it has
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: a little bit to do with privilege, let's face it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: So I think, you know, men or women who believe
• 26:59
  Speaker 12: that they concede or write off sex-specific needs, like, for example,
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: female-only spaces for victims of male violence in shelters or,
• 27:11
  Speaker 12: for example, in prisons, are individuals who will never have
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: to deal with this challenge of being a victim of
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: violence and finding themselves vulnerable in a place where males
• 27:27
  Speaker 12: share a space with them where they can be vulnerable
• 27:33
  Speaker 12: and where they don't have privacy and where they may
• 27:37
  Speaker 12: also be triggered again and re-traumatized because precisely they have
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: suffered by male violence. I want your listeners to be
• 27:46
  Speaker 12: clear that I'm not saying, of course, that any male
• 27:49
  Speaker 12: who identifies as a woman is violent. But the truth
• 27:53
  Speaker 12: is that you— that every— that the overwhelming majority of those that
• 27:58
  Speaker 12: have committed sexual and violent crimes against women and girls
• 28:03
  Speaker 12: have been males. So, we need a system to be
• 28:06
  Speaker 12: able to protect females when they are in their most
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: vulnerable So these are very specific circumstances. We're, of course,
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: not arguing for having a segregated society.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: If trans ideology is not defeated, this idea that sex
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: is fluid, that a man can identify as a woman
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: and then therefore be a woman, if that idea is
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: not defeated, in your view, what comes next?
• 28:35
  Speaker 12: Look, I want to also say that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 12: As I said, there are individuals who experience discrimination and
• 28:46
  Speaker 12: abuse because of having a gender identity that is different
• 28:50
  Speaker 12: from the sex they were born into. But I don't
• 28:53
  Speaker 12: think we do anyone a favor, including these individuals, including
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: trans-identified males or females. If we ignore their biological sex,
• 29:04
  Speaker 12: we need to know this. Service providers, health care providers
• 29:10
  Speaker 12: in particular, but also other sort of providers for social services,
• 29:17
  Speaker 12: have to know the sex of a person in order
• 29:23
  Speaker 12: to give them the most adequate care, and that it
• 29:26
  Speaker 12: is not hateful to request this information. So it's something
• 29:33
  Speaker 12: we have to factor in. I also feel very strongly
• 29:37
  Speaker 12: that even if you are an adult, I mean, with children,
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: it's an even more serious issue. But if you are
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: undergoing gender affirming interventions, which we know today have long
• 29:51
  Speaker 12: lasting impact on your body, you are entitled to have
• 29:56
  Speaker 12: all the information that you need to make an informed decision.
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: And my worry today, as I told one government official this.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Week, my worry is two things. One is that they don't.
• 30:07
  Speaker 12: Get that information. They are not even experiencing proper attention
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: and intake. Often, they propose these interventions or puberty blockers
• 30:18
  Speaker 12: after a few minutes of consultations. They are not told
• 30:23
  Speaker 12: about the full consequences of their bodies. But also with
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: the fact that you have these looming conversion ban laws,
• 30:30
  Speaker 12: it means also that psychologists and other medical professionals cannot
• 30:38
  Speaker 12: do an open, full inquiry into the sources of the
• 30:44
  Speaker 12: distress that somebody has.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Reem, I really appreciate you joining me tonight. Thank you
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: Thank you for having me.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Well, coming up after the break, Victorian Premier Ben Carroll
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: suddenly discovers transparency, pledging to scrap Victoria's sneaky public transport charge.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: The New South Wales Premier can't tell his Arthur from
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: his Martha. And my panel's going to have some fun
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: with Robot Olympics being held in China. All of that's
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: coming up after this. I've got to tell you, Victorian
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Labor Premier Ben Carroll has got some hide. He promised
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: today he would scrap a levy Labor had secretly been
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: charging the public every time they used public transport. That's
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: quite a political manoeuvre. Invent a secret tax, let people
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: pay it for 18 months, get caught and then announce
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: it's abolition as though you've just stormed the Bastille on
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: behalf of the taxpayer. The Auditor-General revealed yesterday that a 1%
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: levy had been added to public transport fares since January
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: last year. It was expected to raise billions of dollars
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and Victorians paid it without any idea they were being charged.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But now, thanks to the Auditor-General, they know. And now
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: that Labor has been totally exposed, the Labor Premier wants
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: credit for having discovered transparency.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Victorians do deserve an apology. There was no transparency on
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: the creation and implementation of this charge. And now as Premier,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: taking the state in a new direction, I give Victorians
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: that apology. I am taking the state in a new
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: direction and that means transparency and accountability.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: How touching. Carroll has decided the best way to demonstrate
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: his commitment to transparency is to apologise for a secret
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: tax after someone else shone a light on it. The
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: man who had no intention to scrap the levy is
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: now presenting its abolition as evidence of his brave new leadership.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: But you've got to wonder, if the Auditor-General hadn't uncovered
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the secret charge, would Ben Carroll really be abolishing it?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Of course not. Victorians would still be paying the levy,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: blissfully unaware they were being taxed to help fund Labor's
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: grandiose ambitions.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: And that is what I am doing today, announcing there
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: was no transparency around this charge and I.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Will abolish it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And he will abolish it, just not today.
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: So it will be abolished from today?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Is it happening from today?
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: No, there will be a proper Cabinet process, but my
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: recommendation to the Cabinet.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So how long will that take?.. is going to be
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: effective as soon as it can be. Oh, this guy
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: is brilliant. I mean, the levy was applied without proper
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: cabinet process, but the levy can't be removed without proper
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: cabinet process. Apparently, the secret bit was easy. It's the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: honest bit that needs a committee. So under Ben Carroll's
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: brave new era of transparency and accountability, Victorians can keep
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: paying a tax they never knew existed while cabinet works
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: out whether they should be allowed to stop. And that's
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: called proper process. But here's the really extraordinary bit. How
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: many times have we been told by politicians and political commentators,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: One Nation, they're unfit to govern? They're just not fit
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to govern.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: Not fit to govern.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: They're not fit to govern. Unfit to be the government
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: of Victoria.
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: If you can't govern your dog, you can't govern the country.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: One Nation is unfit to govern. The Victorian Labour Party,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: beloved of Anthony Albanese and most of the media, was
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: secretly taxing Victorians and hoping no one would notice. Here's
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: what you need to understand. Creating problems, well, the media
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: call that government. Getting caught, that's called accountability. And apologising
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: for it, that's called leadership. But One Nation, they're unfit
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: to govern. Joining me now is the panel, former Liberal Senator,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: now One Nation member, Holly Hughes, and former Federal Nationals Minister,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Peter McGorran. Peter, what does it say about Labor that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: scrapping a secret tax requires more process than imposing one?
• 34:49
  Speaker 15: It says it all, and I'm genuinely puzzled. If Ben
• 34:51
  Speaker 15: Carroll wants to get rid of these handicaps to revitalise
• 34:56
  Speaker 15: Labor leading up to an election in three months, then
• 35:00
  Speaker 15: do it on the spot. The most astounding thing... is
• 35:03
  Speaker 15: that he was the Minister for Transport in 2021 when
• 35:08
  Speaker 15: the levy was imposed. He says he was aware of
• 35:11
  Speaker 15: the levy, but that he didn't know that it would
• 35:15
  Speaker 15: be kept private and silent and hidden. So it just
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: goes from bad to worse. And it does highlight again
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: that the suburban rail loop is the albatross that could
• 35:27
  Speaker 15: still sink this Labor government because the levy was to
• 35:32
  Speaker 15: fund $ 4. 8 billion of the absurd $ 32 billion cost of
• 35:38
  Speaker 15: the SLR. So there's many factors to this. And if
• 35:41
  Speaker 15: the Liberal opposition in Victoria have got their act together,
• 35:45
  Speaker 15: they'll be pounding away at this for days and weeks
• 35:48
  Speaker 15: to come. Indeed.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Holly, the whole one nation is unfit to govern narrative.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: It's a tough sell when you've got incumbent governments behaving
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: Did he get over this guy?
• 35:59
  Speaker 16: I mean, seriously, he was the public transport minister, as
• 36:02
  Speaker 16: Pete said, and yet didn't know that this tax was
• 36:06
  Speaker 16: being put on in secret. I mean, it's absolutely galling
• 36:11
  Speaker 16: that he's even trying to pull this one. But the
• 36:14
  Speaker 16: Victorian Labor government is now heading towards $ 200 billion.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Worth of debt.
• 36:18
  Speaker 16: This is a state that really can't almost afford to
• 36:22
  Speaker 16: pull back on some of these taxes.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, the.
• 36:24
  Speaker 16: Suburban rail loop, I mean, I don't really know anything.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not from Melbourne.
• 36:28
  Speaker 11: I've never lived there.
• 36:29
  Speaker 16: But honestly, this is becoming.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Like snowy hydro.
• 36:32
  Speaker 16: We just keep throwing good money after bad and just
• 36:35
  Speaker 16: keep it going, keep it going. And it's almost like
• 36:38
  Speaker 16: we're too far in now. We've spent too much money.
• 36:42
  Speaker 16: I hope the suburban rail loop's going to transform Melbournians'
• 36:46
  Speaker 16: life because nothing has cost so much other than, as
• 36:49
  Speaker 16: I said, snowing hydro.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you another question. Do you reckon
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: the New South Wales Labor government is fit to govern?
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Back in May, Premier Chris Min stood in front of
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: TV cameras and appeared to draw a remarkably simple line
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: in the sand. He told the New South Wales public
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: when it came to men identifying as women wanting to
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: put in female prisons, well, that's the point at which...
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: biology would suddenly become science.
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  Speaker 14: If you're born biologically male and you change your government
• 37:19
  Speaker 14: certificates to be female, it will not mean that you
• 37:23
  Speaker 14: can change from a male prison to a female prison.
• 37:27
  Speaker 14: There are biological differences that are inherent and the law
• 37:30
  Speaker 14: needs to reflect that.
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  Speaker 2: Except today we find out that there's a man prisoner,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the correct term now is male at birth inmate, doing
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: time in the women's prison, which rather raises the question,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: what happened to all that biology? Apparently it was transferred
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: to another facility. The biology, I mean. Because there's now
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: a rather awkward gap, isn't there, between what Chris Minns
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: told the public and what appears to be happening under
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the government he leads. So much for biology, so much
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: for women's safety, so much for Chris Minns' assurances. Holly,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: if a government can't keep men out of female prisons,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: why should we trust them with anything?
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  Speaker 16: Well, I don't know why you would trust this Labor government,
• 38:09
  Speaker 16: whether it's in Victoria or in New South Wales or federally,
• 38:12
  Speaker 16: with absolutely anything. They are the typical do as I say,
• 38:17
  Speaker 16: not as I do. And when people tell you who
• 38:20
  Speaker 16: they really are, the fact that Chris Mintz has not
• 38:22
  Speaker 16: legislated this, we should take note. They are pandering to
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: the Greens and the inner-city lefties who think that this
• 38:30
  Speaker 16: is somehow acceptable. I heard from someone that to change
• 38:34
  Speaker 16: the sex on your birth certificate... takes less time than
• 38:38
  Speaker 16: to renew your driver's license. And I mean, that is
• 38:41
  Speaker 16: just a ridiculous notion.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I just cannot.
• 38:43
  Speaker 16: Believe that taxpayer funds are being used for these sorts
• 38:48
  Speaker 16: of ridiculous services.
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  Speaker 1: You are not a woman.
• 38:51
  Speaker 16: You may be a trans woman, but you are not
• 38:54
  Speaker 16: a woman. But they seem to tie themselves in knots
• 38:57
  Speaker 16: all over this inability to understand pure biology.
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  Speaker 2: Peter, I can't understand how this has happened in New
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: South Wales for this reason. We watched it happen in Victoria.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: There was outrage. We watched it happen in South Australia.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: There was a huge reaction. How could people in the
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Minns government sit back and watch all of that and
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: not think, gee, we'd better make sure our house is
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: in order?
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  Speaker 15: Well, the decision was made by the Corrective Services Commissioner. Now,
• 39:25
  Speaker 15: the inmate under discussion has had the Corrective Services In
• 39:30
  Speaker 15: other words, he's had his male genitalia removed. And consequently,
• 39:35
  Speaker 15: he does present a number of security challenges to the Corrective.....
• 39:42
  Speaker 15: to the prison service. If he's in a male area,
• 39:45
  Speaker 15: he will be at a higher degree of risk.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: So.
• 39:50
  Speaker 15: I think the Corrective Services Commissioner has taken the easy
• 39:54
  Speaker 15: way out.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: But at least this inmate.
• 40:00
  Speaker 15: Is not a male dressed up in a dress seeking
• 40:04
  Speaker 15: to go across to the women's prison.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: So this is a bit trickier than usual.
• 40:09
  Speaker 15: But nonetheless, you have to draw the line. You can't
• 40:12
  Speaker 15: have the blurred areas. In my view, he's got to
• 40:16
  Speaker 15: remain within the male prison, but there will have to
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: be special protections and conditions for him. But unfortunately, that
• 40:24
  Speaker 15: is often solitary confinement and only let out for an
• 40:27
  Speaker 15: hour a day, given the configuration of prisons. So the
• 40:30
  Speaker 15: commissioner has a different attitude to the premier, but the
• 40:34
  Speaker 15: premier is going to have to clean it up.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I honestly, not a day goes by where I just
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: don't shake my head at some of the stupid decisions
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: that are being made. And the whole time, like I said,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: we get told, whatever you think of Pauline Hanson, she's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: unfit to govern. Look at who's governing and the way
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: they're running the joint. My goodness, it's infuriating. Holly Hughes.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Peter McGoran, I appreciate you joining me. Thanks so much.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: We didn't get time to get to the robots. Maybe
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: we'll do that next week. Coming up, human rights chief
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: slash Britain for not giving asylum seekers enough resources and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a UK council switches off streetlights at a bid to
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: reduce their carbon footprint. Harry and Meghan as well are
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: back in the UK. We'll see how they're being received.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Patrick Christie joins me after this. Well, let's go to
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: the UK now, where the human rights establishment has apparently
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: discovered a new humanitarian emergency. The people who arrive illegally
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: in Britain aren't being pampered quite enough. Joining me now
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: is Star GB News host Patrick Christies. Patrick, this can't
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: be right.
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: Well, it obviously isn't right, but they're saying it anyway.
• 41:44
  Speaker 10: I mean, I was having a look at all of
• 41:45
  Speaker 10: the things that we give to asylum seekers in this
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: country and illegal immigrants in this country. Free SIM cards
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: for their phones. There are even classes to teach them
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: how to become nightclub DJs. Free tickets to Premier League
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: football matches. They obviously are given a booklet on how
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: not to sexually assault someone, which is absolutely insane. House, education,
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: free doctors, £ 151 million in national lottery funding to migrant charities.
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: We're putting them up in former military barracks, which include
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: things like indoor and outdoor soccer pitches, gyms. free transport
• 42:22
  Speaker 10: into nearby towns, spending money. I mean, look, the list
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: goes on. All of this is whilst we have the
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: highest tax burden since World War II, and we are
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: currently deciding whether or not we should be taxing pensioners
• 42:33
  Speaker 10: more to the point of even burping them out of
• 42:35
  Speaker 10: their own homes in order to help with our welfare bill.
• 42:39
  Speaker 11: And it's absolutely farcical.
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: To say that we don't do enough for asylum seekers
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: and illegal immigrants. And obviously, if they're not happy with
• 42:45
  Speaker 10: the lot that they get here... Well, there are other
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: options for them, aren't there? Like many of the other
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: safe countries they pass through in order to arrive on
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: British shores.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I always thought, you know, welfare for asylum seekers was
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: like a safety net. This sounds more like a hammock.
• 42:59
  Speaker 11: Oh, 100%. This is it. This is the reason they
• 43:02
  Speaker 11: are coming.
• 43:02
  Speaker 10: So the idea that we should be giving them a
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: load more stuff is absolutely insane. As I speak to you,
• 43:08
  Speaker 10: I've just had a tip-off from a source that I've
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: got in northern France to say that there is one
• 43:12
  Speaker 10: of these mega dinghies. The last one that came across
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: had 230 people on it. A mega dinghy that is
• 43:18
  Speaker 10: currently in the English Channel on the way here. And again,
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: for context, that is larger than the average flight capacity
• 43:26
  Speaker 10: of Britain. go on holiday to Spain every single year,
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: coming across the channel as we speak, ready to get
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: all of this free stuff.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Including lessons on how to be a DJ. Absolutely incredible. Well,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: speaking of illegal immigrants, with more on the way, safety
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: concerns have been raised about the government's plan to house,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: it was like 1,200 male illegal migrants in this village, Piddington,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: which has a population of just 358. So that's already
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: a major problem, but now it's been pointed out that
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: The council is switching off half the town's streetlights between
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: 12.30am and 5.30am every night because, well, they're trying to
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: cut their carbon footprint. So you've got a town of
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: less than 400 people inundated by more than 1,200 male
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: asylum seekers and it's pitch black on the streets every night.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: That does not add up, not even slightly.
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: Well, what could go wrong? And this town of Piddington
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: is a really beautiful little area. The children of Piddington
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: did very emotional videos to our Prime Minister, Andy Byrne,
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: and one of whom says, look, at the moment, his sister,
• 44:32
  Speaker 10: her grave is just around the corner from where they
• 44:35
  Speaker 10: live and around the corner from where this huge site
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: of illegal migrant men will be. He's only seven years old.
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: He likes to be able to go and visit his
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: sister's grave on his own, actually. And because it's a
• 44:43
  Speaker 10: quiet little English village, in the middle of nowhere. You
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: can do that kind of stuff there. He's not going
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: to be able to do that anymore if you do
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: import 1,200 illegal migrant men from, frankly, some of the
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: world's worst countries.
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: And we don't know who these people.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Are, OK?
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: These people will have only just arrived in this country
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: two or three days ago. They will then be sent
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: to this camp in the middle of absolutely nowhere. And
• 45:08
  Speaker 10: then for the local government or the government in general
• 45:10
  Speaker 10: to be turning off the streetlights for these people... It's
• 45:13
  Speaker 10: almost like we are living in some mad situation, a simulation,
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: to see how much the British public can really take
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: before we all decide that we're going to move abroad.
• 45:22
  Speaker 11: I mean, it's just insane.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Well, don't come to Australia, Patrick, because you'll be just
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: as frustrated here at the moment, I tell you. Before
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I let you go, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: landed in the UK along with their kids. Following reports
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: last week, they've decided to return to Britain permanently. Are
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: you happy to have them back, Patrick?
• 45:41
  Speaker 11: Absolutely not, no.
• 45:42
  Speaker 10: I'm talking of unwanted immigration into the UK.
• 45:45
  Speaker 11: Wind and ginger back, aren't they? Fantastic.
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: Harry and Meghan touched back down six years after their
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: freedom flight. They took a private jet that landed in Birmingham.
• 45:55
  Speaker 10: Quite funny that really, actually, because Birmingham, there's currently a
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: garbage bin strike and there's been Pakistani flags are now
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: lining some of the streets in Birmingham. So I do
• 46:04
  Speaker 10: wonder whether or not Meghan thought she'd landed in the
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: right country. But two things here. I mean, firstly, the
• 46:10
  Speaker 10: private jet thing is a joke. Harry gave us the
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: lecture on climate change. But also the main point, really,
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: is why have they come back? Initially, it was rumoured
• 46:19
  Speaker 10: that it was to do with Meghan Markle's vaccine career.
• 46:21
  Speaker 10: That's apparently been canned. It's more likely, I think, that
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: it's something to do with the King's health, which obviously
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: the wider public are not being told, fair enough, for
• 46:30
  Speaker 10: good reason. But that could end up being the reason.
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: They didn't have security, though, apparently, which, again, considering they
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: made such a big song and dance about not being
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: able to come back to the UK without security, it
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: does make you wonder what's really going on there. But, yeah,
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: they're about to settle down in the lovely Cotswolds, we think.
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: And I'm sure they'll be delighting their new neighbours.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: We've got a little bit of time. So obviously you're
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: not happy to see them. What's been the public response
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: to them? Is there warmth and generosity towards them or
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: is there spite?
• 47:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, there's quite a lot of spite.
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: If you look at the opinion polls, it tends to
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: flick between I absolutely don't care.
• 47:09
  Speaker 11: Stop talking about them. Why are they in our lives?
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: to I really don't like them back. I don't want
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: them back.
• 47:15
  Speaker 10: And then obviously you've got a few of the kind
• 47:17
  Speaker 10: of Harry and Meghan super fans. But the problem is
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: really is that they didn't just disappear. They didn't just
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: make a huge song and dance about being on this
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: freedom flight. They then went and cried into Oprah Winfrey's bosom.
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: Prince Harry wrote a book that South Park rightly said
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: should have been called Where Nots Fair. It was pretty
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: disparaging about British history and British way of life. Lectured
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: us all on institutional racism and unconscious bias.
• 47:41
  Speaker 11: And then, you know, now he's back, which it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: Just starts to look a little bit, you know, rum,
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: to be honest with you. Why have you come back
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: after slagging us all off?
• 47:49
  Speaker 11: And he's not made up with his brother. The other
• 47:52
  Speaker 11: thing here that.
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: People are asking questions about is we have certain tax
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: laws in this country. And if you have been out
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: of the country for six full tax years, as Prince
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: Harry has, then you do pay a bit less tax
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: on capital gains and foreign earnings.
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: So, I mean, maybe they've just got a very good accountant.
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: That could be the real reason behind why they're back.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Intriguing.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Absolutely intriguing. Patrick Christie, I always really enjoy talking to you.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time tonight. I've enjoyed it. Well,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: thank you for joining me this week. I really appreciate it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I'll be back next week. Andrew Bolt's still on holidays.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: But look forward to your company next week. Don't go
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: anywhere right now, though, because here is Shari Markson.