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Big Change Coming To College Football's Targeting Rule? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, February twenty eighth.
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  Speaker 1: Them'm your host, Tom or the ball State game in
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  Speaker 1: for more. All right, on today's show, we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: everyone's favorite rule, the targeting rule, and there could be
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  Speaker 1: some changes on the way for the targeting rule, but
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily exactly the changes that you guys want. And
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  Speaker 1: is there more clarity as to what targeting is? No,
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  Speaker 1: no one will continue to know what targeting is or isn't,
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  Speaker 1: but the repercussions for getting called for targeting could be
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  Speaker 1: getting changed.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna welcome in our buddy, Tony German of Buckeyehuddle
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Tony, this has to do the proposed rule
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  Speaker 1: change has to do with not the enforcement of the
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  Speaker 1: targeting rule within a game, but what happens potentially the
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  Speaker 1: week after.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this proposal says targeting is still an ejectionable offense.
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  Speaker 2: But if you do get ejected, say you get ejected
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  Speaker 2: in the second half. We know previously if you get
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  Speaker 2: ejected in the second half, that means you missed the
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  Speaker 2: first half of the next game. This would just this
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  Speaker 2: would not do that. It was the penalty would just
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  Speaker 2: be contained to that game. And if you do get
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  Speaker 2: ejected in the first half, you're done. You don't get
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  Speaker 2: to come back out in the second half. So this
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  Speaker 2: would just eliminate the carryover to the next game. On
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  Speaker 2: the first time you have a targeting penalty for a.
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  Speaker 1: Player, yeah, just the first time you get it within
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  Speaker 1: a season, you just you're out for that game, and
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  Speaker 1: then you can come back for the start of the
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  Speaker 1: next game, regardless of when that penalty happens. So if
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  Speaker 1: it happens in the first half, if it happens on
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  Speaker 1: the first play the second half, if it happens with
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  Speaker 1: thirty seconds left in the game, doesn't matter. You can
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  Speaker 1: come back for the start of the following week for
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  Speaker 1: your first one. Then with your second targeting penalty, then
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  Speaker 1: we kind of go back to the way the rule
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  Speaker 1: was enforced last year. But you looked it up and
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  Speaker 1: this does not look like something that's necessarily going to
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  Speaker 1: impact a lot of players.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, last year there were five players in all of
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  Speaker 2: FBS who had two targeting calls against them upheld. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think this is going to be something
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  Speaker 2: that ruins your season or anything like that or becomes
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  Speaker 2: this thing that is everybody's getting kicked out, everybody's missing time.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think it's that big of a deal.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, in the unlikely event that someone
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  Speaker 1: gets called for targeting three times in a season, then
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  Speaker 1: the penalty is you know, so that one is less
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  Speaker 1: serious than last year's in terms of what happens the
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  Speaker 1: next week two is the same as what happened last year.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of the next week three is a more
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  Speaker 1: serious thing. If anyone actually gets to three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get to three, then you are suspended
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  Speaker 2: for the following game. And boyd just don't get to three.
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  Speaker 2: At that point, reps are going to be looking for you.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, once you've got to now people know you.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, if you get a three, then you are
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  Speaker 2: you're going to miss the next game completely.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting is this is a change
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  Speaker 1: the targeting rule, but it's not necessarily the change that
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  Speaker 1: I think people have wanted to see in the targeting rule,
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  Speaker 1: and that is sort of to go to maybe the
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  Speaker 1: old face mask model where there used to be the
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  Speaker 1: five yard face mask and the fifteen yard face mask.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that there has been this idea that
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  Speaker 1: you know, there are really terrible, brutal, intentional looking intent
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  Speaker 1: to injure kind of targeting calls and then there's, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this guy kind of dipped his head a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's maybe not necessarily nearly as bad,
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  Speaker 1: not the ones that do not look as bad maybe,
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think there has been this idea
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  Speaker 1: that maybe you could do one where it's a fifteen
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  Speaker 1: yard penalty but you don't necessarily throw someone out, or
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  Speaker 1: some kind of variation there. That is not something that
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  Speaker 1: they're revisiting at this point, which is kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and right now this is just a one year
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  Speaker 2: trial if it passes, and they'll see how it goes,
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  Speaker 2: but they do want to continue to penalize this so
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  Speaker 2: that there's teaching and proper coaching and proper education on
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  Speaker 2: the way to you know, tackle without putting your head down.
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  Speaker 2: And putting yourself in a situation to target or be targeted,
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  Speaker 2: although I'm not blaming the victims here, So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's something they don't necessarily want to get rid of
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  Speaker 2: because the the goal behind it is good, but it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's something that nobody particularly loves. And I
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  Speaker 2: think if there was another rule that I would change,
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  Speaker 2: don't have the rules official onto broadcasts say anything, don't
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  Speaker 2: don't have them give their thoughts, because one of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons people don't like this rule is because nobody's on
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  Speaker 2: the same page as to what it is. And the
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  Speaker 2: fact that through all of this you can still appeal
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  Speaker 2: to the conference or the NCAA and they'll come back
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  Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, that wasn't targeting, and it's And
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  Speaker 2: the thing is it went through you know, it was
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  Speaker 2: initially viewed as targeting vera replay as well at the time,
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  Speaker 2: but then three days later at the NCAA offices, they're like, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's not targeting. How could how could you possibly call
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  Speaker 2: this targeting? So yeah, it's easy to understand why a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people are against this being an injectionable penalty
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  Speaker 2: when nobody really is on the same page as to
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  Speaker 2: whether or not it's even by rule targeting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned the change that I that you thought
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  Speaker 1: people would maybe want to see with targeting. With I
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  Speaker 1: guess the targeting rule conversation on TV. I had my
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  Speaker 1: own view on the deep portion of the targeting rule
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  Speaker 1: that they maybe should look at changing that they didn't. However, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: there was another rule that they are looking at changing,
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  Speaker 1: very very serious, consequential rule involving socks. Did you see
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  Speaker 1: this one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, do you remember. I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: was last summer or the year before that Big ten
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  Speaker 2: Media Day is talking to Bill Corollo, the head of
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  Speaker 2: the officials into Big ten. He is he is one
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  Speaker 2: of these people anti skin basically, I need he wants
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  Speaker 2: he wants the pit pads lower than the knees and
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  Speaker 2: that was a big thing for him. And it's like
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  Speaker 2: it's better rule, but it's never really been enforced where
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  Speaker 2: you've had to have to have knee pads. And we
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  Speaker 2: saw this pact here in the past few years where
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  Speaker 2: players are essentially wearing shorts out there. Now they want
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  Speaker 2: to go from the top of the shoes to the
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  Speaker 2: what to the top of the knee basically in terms
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  Speaker 2: of having the legs covered. I just don't want to
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  Speaker 2: see any legs out there, you know that that sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing. But yeah, it's the knee pads is something
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  Speaker 2: that I know Bill Corolla has been wanting to be
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  Speaker 2: reinforced for a while. So seeing this, I just kind
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  Speaker 2: of chuckled at it, and not a huge surprise.
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  Speaker 1: Are they targeting the hot pants the hot pens, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that is where they're looking. They want your knees covered.
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  Speaker 1: There are knee pads in there that they want. It
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  Speaker 1: is sort of a protective thing, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: kickers have been having their pants above their knees. The
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma kicker won that Grows a award with basically booty
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  Speaker 1: shorts last year. So yeah, that's what they're sort of targeting.
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  Speaker 1: And they also want socks to be covered, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the way up and the first time someone in
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  Speaker 1: your team gets called for a sock violation, they just
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  Speaker 1: have to go to the sideline and fix it. After that,
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  Speaker 1: a five yarder, after that, a fifteen yarder. So if
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  Speaker 1: they do enforce that, I'm guessing you will see fewer
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  Speaker 1: legs on the college football field this fall, and then
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  Speaker 1: all of college football's problems will be solved.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the last rule, which is the rule that I
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  Speaker 2: like bringing in the free kick after a fair catch.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is one that's actually going
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  Speaker 1: to come up very often, but it is kind of intrigued.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is in the NFL as well, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many people are aware of it,
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  Speaker 2: but basically, if you fair catch a kick, be it
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  Speaker 2: a punt or I think also a kickoff, you can
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  Speaker 2: opt to kick a field goal from that spot, but
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  Speaker 2: there can be no rush, so it's the free kick.
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  Speaker 2: So say Ohio State forces a punt with like six seconds,
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  Speaker 2: they you know, they've backed up Michigan to you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Michigan two yard line. Michigan punts from you know whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and Ohio State fair catches it at the fifty yard line.
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  Speaker 2: They can take a free kick from there. They could
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  Speaker 2: have to take a free kick from there with their
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  Speaker 2: final second and there can be no essentially no kick
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  Speaker 2: rush on that and so it still just be you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a field goal. It's three points. But it's a
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  Speaker 2: rule that hasn't been in college football, and it's a
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  Speaker 2: rule that we've seen a little bit in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last you know, however long. But I guess
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  Speaker 2: so the last time it was used in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty four when they converted when the
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  Speaker 2: Chargers converted from fifty seven yards out against Denver. So
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  Speaker 2: just one more little thing to keep an eye on
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  Speaker 2: when these rules inevitably get approved.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I don't know. I'm sure they have Kirk Ference's vote.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who else is going to if this
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  Speaker 1: will officially go through. But yeah, that is one where
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  Speaker 1: it feels like you're thinking it through and it's like
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  Speaker 1: that's not going to impact anything. And at some point
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  Speaker 1: there is going to be some game that comes down
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  Speaker 1: to someone fair catching it and you know they're still
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  Speaker 1: explaining overtime rules on TV thirty years in, so I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait for them to have to explain that one
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  Speaker 1: in ten seconds before before someone attempts a game winning
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  Speaker 1: field goal on basically a kick three. So all right,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. There are some three rules potential rules
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  Speaker 1: changes for this year of very in consequence coming to
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  Speaker 1: college football if they get approved. I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: kind of an interesting piece of news this week that
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  Speaker 1: you guys might enjoy. So we will have a chance
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Ryan Day and the Buckeyes about all
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  Speaker 1: of those things. I'm sure we'll lead with the socks
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  Speaker 1: when spring practice starts on March tenth. We're just over
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  Speaker 1: a week away from that. Looking forward to getting back
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  Speaker 1: into the Woody Hayes Athletic Center watching springball, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of new faces, all some new coaches, and a whole
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  Speaker 1: new season of Ohio State football starting March tenth. We'll
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  Speaker 1: be there for all of it at bucke Huddle dot
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  Speaker 1: com and YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle. That'll do
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  Speaker 1: it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.